7 Aug 2014

Lawro: LFC may go back to sign 'superb' £11m star who'd 'walk into the team'. Bite the bullet?

For many LFC fans, the collapse of Loic Remy's proposed transfer to Anfield remains a massive disappointment, and after an alleged failed medical, the deal appears to permanently dead in the water. Or is it? The Reds are currently struggling to find a viable replacement, and Liverpool legend Mark Lawrenson believes there's a chance that the club may resurrect a deal for the 'superb' Frenchman before the transfer window slams shut.

According to the Liverpool Echo, LFC scrapped the proposed £11m deal as a result of 'concerns' arising from Remy's medical, but when asked about the failed transfer, Brendan Rodgers ducked the medical issue, and offered the following explanation:

"It's very simple we have made a decision as a club not to go ahead. It's unfortunate for the player. We are disappointed for the player but there’s nothing more to be said"

In his column for the Liverpool Echo this week, Lawro insisted that Liverpool need to sign 'a striker with real pace', and suggested that the club may decided to resurrect the Remy deal. He noted:

"Don’t rule out Loic Remy completely. Stranger things have happened. They [LFC] may go back to him and structure the deal in a different way. It has been done before and once they’ve thought about the alternatives. it could be that he is still the ideal option".

The prevailing view seems to be that Remy's heart condition is the reason Liverpool pulled out of the deal, and if that's the case, consider the following:

* Remy's heart defect was first discovered in 2010 during his medical for Marseille. At the time, Marseille club doctor Christophe Baudot revealed that the heart specialists who dealt with Remy 'could find no reason to prevent him practicing sport at a high level'.

* Since that time, he's had medicals for QPR, Newcastle, and the France national team, and passed without issues every time. Indeed, Remy - who Steve Nicol believes would 'walk straight into Liverpool's team - had a medical with France only a couple of months ago, and obviously got the all-clear (!)

* After the alleged LFC medical fail, QPR boss Harry Redknapp basically accused Liverpool of lying, and to be fair, he made some good points. He told reporters: “I don’t really see how he could have failed a medical. He had a stringent medical here; at Marseille; at Newcastle and with France. You couldn’t meet a fitter lad. He’s got no problems whatsoever".

* Unless everyone at Anfield suffers from an acute form of retrograde amnesia, Rodgers et al will have known about Remy's heart defect prior to the medical. If there's a club policy in place to reject players with heart-problems, why waste time pursuing the transfer in the first place?

* If there's no such policy, why did LFC reject Remy when he's obviously fit enough to play club and international football?

* Clearly, QPR, Marseille, Newcastle, and France managed to find an insurance company to cover Remy's pre-existing condition, so Liverpool will undoubtedly be able to do the same.

Even if Liverpool allegedly sought a second-opinion (this is media speculation, not fact), the collapse of the deal still makes very little sense, and I personally hope that the Reds just bite the bullet, and go back and seal the deal.

Failing that, Liverpool should publicly reveal the specific reason for pulling out of the deal. If Remy genuinely failed the medical, why have LFC conspicuously failed confirm this?

Liverpool have not even publicly confirmed that the deal collapsed as a result of a medical issue (see Rodgers' comments above), which suggests there's a different reason altogether.

Why the cloak and dagger approach? What does the club have to hide?

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207 comments:

  1. Kanwar is a great novelist

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  2. Cant see us making a u turn on that. I think we will get bony and i would be happy with it

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  3. I agree, we should never have pulled out of that deal. The stringent medicals he'd already passed (for France in the World Cup, no less), should've tipped the scales in his favour. His signing would ease a lot of worries, but I do feel his rejection, Agger's desire to leave, the manner of Reina's exit is affecting our reputation. I'm a BR fan, but I don't feel good about some of the recent events.

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  4. colonel cocknocker11:18 pm, August 07, 2014

    I would guess maybe it was actually about borini delaying the transfer perhaps? Although i struggle to believe that i cant think of any other good reason. Not sure, you make a good point. But i would like to get him if we're obviously not interested in jackson martinez. Who only signed a year extension by the way I'm pretty sure.

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  5. Remy over bony any day.


    BRENDAN PLZ BUY REMY

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  6. How a club the size of Liverpool can't sort out a decent striker in good time is beggars believe, wtf do they do all day..??

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  7. i think what made us pull out is that we other primary targets opened up such as volland or reus or falcao or bony or cavani and that made us hold off on the deal

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  8. His France medical should not be taken into account as there are no transfer fee or wage issues to risk. He has still not been bought by a club that his abilities/experience deserve.... which can only be a concern as we are clearly not the only club to dodge the potential bullet

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  9. colonel cocknocker11:23 pm, August 07, 2014

    thinking about it actually how many people do we have in our squad at the moment? It's pretty hench. Maybe they didnt want to have more than are elligible and get held to ransom over players that would obviously then have to be sold. Although we got sweet fa for reina so my new theory doesn't really hold water either...

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  10. It's not liverpool's to go around making public statements about the health, good or otherwise, of a player who is not contracted to the club. It's a simple professional courtesy and exactly how I would expect the club to handle the matter.

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  11. colonel cocknocker11:25 pm, August 07, 2014

    clearly more plausible than anything i can come up with. Shout

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  12. It's pretty obvious that Rodgers or the transfer committee got cold feet and pulled out of the deal

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  13. No chance Remy is joining. Much more likely an 11th hour panic buy like Bony for a ridiculous fee. Pretty sorry state of affairs when its just over a week until the season kicks off and Liverpool have had 75million burning a hole in their pocket and even with that AND the carrot of champions league football are still struggling to sign a world class striker. As of now Liverpool have replace Luis Suarez......with Ricky Lambert.


    Staggering.

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  14. Is it really staggering that it's hard to sign a world class striker? Go through the list of players you'd put in that bracket and then ask yourself if they would honestly be interested in coming here. The number of players who we've tried to get and who have ultimately just said "no thanks" is growing. These players are either already at good clubs, have been transferred to other clubs or simply don't want to come here. Liverpool are making serious enquiries - Cavani is the latest on that list, Falcao, Sanchez - but if the players don't want to be here then what can the club do? Saying they should "just get it done" is a luxury only a fan gets to have. Reality is a bit more complicated.

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  15. Jims whites sources11:46 pm, August 07, 2014

    cant stand you and nicol

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  16. yep , makes me laugh you see a player linked with chelsea etc , the deal is done with in the week signed sealed and delivered , Liverpool sign players it ends up like a bad soapie , full of twists and turns ,

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  17. First of all, we won't make a u-turn on this and I'd be surprised if Remy accepted any future offer from us. Secondly, Liverpool were undoubtedly aware that there was a heart condition but until that is examined they could not judge how serious it is. If reports are to be believed Liverpool did one medical with him and when he failed this they organised a second opinion. The tests the Liverpool Doctors in Boston conducted may have been of a different nature to those conducted elsewhere or perhaps more thorough. If there is a suspicion that the player's heart is a risk it would be irresponsible to press ahead with the transfer because (a) your investment could be gone in a second and, much more importantly, (b) the club has a moral responsibility not to play a player if there is a recognised risk that so doing might be seriously detrimental to their health. If this was the club's assessment then I hope they have conveyed the necessary information to the player so that he can make informed decisions about his own future.

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  18. Nothing to do with failed medical and everything to do with Borini NOT joining Sunderland.

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  19. Doctor/Patient confidentiality? Give over. If that was the case, no info about anuy injury would ever be released. Plus, Marseille already released specific details about the condition, so where was doc/patient confidentiality then?

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  20. Agreed. Sylvain Marveaux failed his medical at Anfield in 2011 under Kenny and the club didn't go around 'confirming' it or not back then either. I think it's just the way LFC go about those things.

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  21. I'd also go far and suggest that whatever medical condition Remy has, at £8m he's great value and worth the risk.

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  22. What caught my eye was Lawro saying, "they may go back to him and STRUCTURE THE DEAL IN A DIFFERENT WAY." I was one of those who thought LFC silence on the matter was a doctor-patient thing...but 'structuring a deal' has nothing to do with medicine. Methinks there is more here than meets the eye.

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  23. This is just another excuse. No one is suggesting the LFC spell out everything in detail, but the club can at least confirm that deal fell through due to a medical issue. It hasn't even done that, with Rodgers ducking the issue when asked. Why hide it? There's absolutely no need. Players fail medicals; it's no big secret...except in this case.

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  24. I dont think we have enough ambition, If clubs like monaco,psg,city a few years back etc can get a high profile top player why cant we ? we have the funds supposedly.. most people reckon , we have the wages to cover it with reina and suarez gone to name 2 . We need to replace suarez now .. I just wish we would make some1 an offer they cant refuse.. top players almost pay for themselves with added interest in the clubs ,jersey sales etc .. i dont know ... just my opinion anyways

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  25. Yes, good point. There are lots of ways a deal could be structured to protect LFC. Various contract clauses could be inserted etc.

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  26. It's called the "Hippocratic Oath", every Physician takes that oath,

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  27. We have no Russian quasi-mobster billionaire running things?

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  28. I am all for signing Remy, hope we find a way around it, but FSG probably have more stringent Medicals than in the UK, just a thought, based on no evidence.

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  29. For me that rumour is rubbish. Rodgers obviously rates Remy more than Borini otherwise he wouldn't be trying to sign one and sell the other. If Borini didn't want to leave it'd be his only problem and he would warm the bench whole season.

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  30. I think Studge and Remy up front would be superb.

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  31. Could be true. Sylvain Marveaux failed his medical at Liverpool a few seasons ago. A couple of weeks later he was signing for Newcastle.

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  32. I said it the other night that there have been some high profile cases of young men with heart defects being 'cleared to play' who have died on the court/field...it is a social and legal nightmare and FSG would be very knowledgeable about those cases. They would be careful. But the structure of a deal...even if it is limited liability for a known heart defect would hold little water if Remy collapsed and died on the pitch at Anfield in front of the Kop.

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  33. Uh...I believe the hippocratic oath has more to do with first...do no harm

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  34. You've ignored my point. General custom in football shows that doc/patient confidentiality doesn't apply. See Steve Bruce's comments about Charlie Austin's failed medical (a few weeks ago) as an example. You're just making excuses.

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  35. No rumour - just my opinion - which could be right or wrong!!

    And following on from this, it was a mistake not to close out Remy ahead of some of the other transfer.

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  36. You are dead right. Oops, sorry Pandle you are alive, but you get my drift, I hope.

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  37. I guess my point was that if Lawro's comments are to be believed, then the deal crashed because of terms...not medicine.

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  38. All that may come to my knowledge in the exercise of my profession or in daily commerce with men, which ought not to be spread abroad, I will keep secret and will never reveal.

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  39. Whoa...how poetic. Is that really part of it...doctor?

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  40. What if Liverpool simply don't want to do like Steve Bruce? Can't we respect that? They surely have their reasons. Nobody does things without reason...

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  41. Yes it is, and I teach Medicine.

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  42. A thousand pardons then.

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  43. And another thought...maybe BR is terse about Remy because it wasn't his decision, he didn't like the decision but he is duty-bound to press on.

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  44. It doesn't matter what others do. The professional and decent thing to do is to maintain confidentiality.

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  45. We really dont know, but it looked like a deal was in place, Remy went to NY with his Wife waiting for the OK, but as we know it did not come.
    I am guessing, but it had to be a Medical/Insurance issue, again I say, I am guessing only.

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  46. That presupposes that confirmed a medical was failed is unprofessional and indecent, which it isn't. In the slightest. Not confirming that info is the exception, not the rule.

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  47. JK, I am not interested in disputing this with you, because if I bring a valid counter-argument, you will delete my post, as you usually do.

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  48. going back to him would be pathetic ..

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  49. Yeah, but if we get him and he plunks in 20+ goals, then we could all laugh about it in May.

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  50. "Failing that, Liverpool should publicly reveal the specific reason for pulling out of the deal"..erm no. They don't owe you, me, or anyone an explanation. It's their decision to not go ahead. They don't publicly have to say why they signed this player or why they didn't pursue that player. It's none of anyone's business except those involved in the process.

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  51. It's because the transfer committee is an absolute joke. They'd screw up a ham sandwich.

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  52. Yes, they do owe the fans an explanation. The fans are the club, and Rodgers et al will know that the fans want an explanation. Hiding the reason why the deal failed is disrespectful to the fanbase (IMO). It's okay though, LFC have well-trained cheerleaders like you to spin the company line.

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  53. No need for the snide remark with the whole "well trained cheerleader". You get on posters for that so why don't you abide by it to. Hypocrite. You don't know me. I certainly don't agree with everything the club does so go take a sit and a midol. They don't owe you anything so get over it.

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  54. Couldn't agree more. Cannot understand why men (who should know better) are disparaging Liverpool FC for treating a players medical examinations under the heading "Medical In Confidence". I have read many reports about this issue but have as yet seen no complaints from the player concerned regarding his treatment by LFC. If the club disclosed confidential details about a player's health they would be liable to severe censure - and rightly so!
    The player clearly knows why the club decided against agreeing a contract and would be able to tell. I believe he is right to keep his personal confidential details private. I wish Loic Remy well and hope he continues to enjoy his football because he is a fine player.

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  55. Steve Bruce is not a Doctor, as far as I know.

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  56. lol, you deleted the cherleader conversation ? Because it was a valid opinion of someone disagreeing with you ? Pathetic, just like your articles

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  57. Again, you are flippantly ignoring the point. The doctor/patient confidentiality thing doesn't exist with what we're talking about. If it did, no team would ever reveal any info about any injury. There's no evidence to show D/PC exists in football, but there's plenty of evidence to show that it's not common practice.

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  58. Every time someone disagrees with you and sides with the club you label them as club apologists. Come up with something better. I certainly don't agree with everything the club does (just look at my other post about the transfer committee) so you couldn't be further from the truth. As for the cheerleader comment, I'm sure you know plenty about cheerleading, right Jaimie. The club owes no explanation.

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  59. Jaimie I believe it is a matter for every employer/insurer to conduct their own medical examinations on players and decide for themselves if they wish to employ/insure a player. If a potential employer releases details of their examinations to the public, without permission, they will be in breach of their requirement to maintain medical confidentiality. - Neither the public nor any other club have the right to know that information.
    May I congratulate Brendan Rodgers and LFC in respecting the player's privacy.

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  60. Yes they can with the permission and acceptance of the Patient, to his/her injury.
    Obviously these things get leaked, but you will never ever, find a Doctor publicly leaking these things, otherwise they would lose their licence.
    Again as I have stated, I would love Remy at Anfield, IMO he is our best bet, but who knows, surely BR has an attacker in mind, if he finds someone better than Remy, all the better, but I cant see anyone out there (who is available) that would be a better option.

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  61. I actually agree with him here. LFC never officially announced their pursuit for Remy, so they don't owe anyone anything.


    I will also say that your 'club apologists' fallback line is kind of annoying. Like he said, you need to come up with something better, because frankly, it's just lazy, condescending, and untrue.

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  62. God. If Man Utd sign Di Maria, Vidal and Cuadrado, we're f**ked. For people who say we don't need marquee signings, this is exactly why.

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  63. Have you considered that it may not be disclosed at Remy's request? As you say he has passed medicals before so he probably wouldn't want the details of what they found coming out, as it could affect his chances of getting a move elsewhere. Your article also blindly assumes that Redknapp has no vested interest in making people believe Remy has no issues....he is worth a significant transfer fee and wants to leave... if he can't sell him because of this he has got a want a way player on huge wages (for QPR) that he is stuck with.

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  64. I think that's highly unprofessional, I would be absolutely livid if a prospective employer revealed confidential details of a medical examination I had on applying for a job. Even a casual mention is unacceptable. Remy was never a Liverpool player and Liverpool have no place revealing ANYTHING about that process. It's none of our business, he's not our player, and any fan that thinks they are entitled that kind of information is just wrong.

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  65. I have heard much worse ideas than that! Why not? Add some mutually acceptable language where the risks are shared if his heart blows up just like if Suarez gives someone rabies! Remy wants to be here which is more than I can say about Reina Johnson or Sanchez.........We should get Bony as well because I still think we need a total of four strikers for the big schedule we face this year. Strikers are trained snipers and we need that. We have an improved group of guys who can deliver the mail to them but we need killers to FINISH the job.

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  66. Agreed. Three great players, and with Van Gaal at the helm...

    Doesn't bear thinking about.

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  67. Mark,
    Agree completely. What the F**k is up with that? Is it hand wringing, deliberate mis-direction or terrible execution? I wish I knew and had the power to fix it because it doesn't make us look decisive, effective and serious and I imagine "targeted" players wonder about it as well...........

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  68. Spot on Bro....you me and 10 million others are asking the same damned question.............

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  69. Agree 100%. Players respect forthright dealings as most ordinary folks do............

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  70. and shocking and embarrassing..................................

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  71. They won't sign them.

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  72. good point but given the degree it seems to happen to LFC, certainly raises serious questions....Its not like the team is located in the gaza strip or Greenland, right?????

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  73. or probably Max Kruse or Raffael (Borussia Mönchengladbach)

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  74. 999 would have sufficed.

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  75. but he plays one on TV....................

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  76. like don't bite, don't tell.................

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  77. We'll probably come 5th if they sign them, and if we don't get anyone else that's going to add great instant impact. Can you imagine how hard it's going to be break back into the top 4 after this season if Man Utd take our spot?

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  78. "Why the cloak and dagger approach? What does the club have to hide?" - Jaimie, how about having some respect for Remy? If Liverpool is concerned about his heart, then they won't say so publicly to protect the player from unwarranted questions from the media. Is it really that hard to understand? It just takes a little common sense. Good for Liverpool to give the player some respect on personal matters and not airing it out to the world.

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  79. Well thank you Nick I was just about to go to bed, and sleep peacefully,
    Now you have ruined that, a nightmare before I even go to bed.

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  80. It is unprofessional! Others have pointed this out on here for you so i wont go repeat what they have said. Besides you have even suggested we should release specific details, to me it's obvious that we have done the right thing by not doing so

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  81. Was Remy pushed onto Rodgers as a cheap option? Rodgers stood his ground and was fuming at the fact that FSG were not prepared to back him further? So at the last minute with Rodgers sulking and spitting blood, FSG "as a club decided not to go ahead with the transfer". I doubt it had anything to do with a medical. Since the transfer failure we have been linked with every superstar striker in the world, it seems a massive step from an £8 million striker to a £40/60 million one, what forced it? I am certain it has to do with FSG and the money spent so far. Rodgers would have been promised massive funds if he got the club back in the champions league, he spent them funds and now he wants to spend the Suarez money too, I think FSG tried pulling the plug. Does all that sound more realistic than a failed medical?

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  82. Agger wants to leave because he is not going to be a primary defender on this team. Reina is going to Bayern Munich. Seems like Liverpool allowed Reina to go to another top club and accommodated him. You may have other valid concerns, but these two make no rational sense.

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  83. They can have Vermaelen though. Just dream about Vermaelan undoing all their good work.

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  84. You are slightly ignoring that Liverpool is trying to sign players that fit the systems and schemes they run. Remy is an excellent fit because of what he does on the pitch and how he is a hound on the ball and will work to get it. He is no Suarez, but he does a lot of the things Suarez does to get the ball and work for the ball. But would someone like Falcao fit the system? Absolutely. But its about trying to build a team that will have chemistry and can play off each other. Its not just about money or big-names.

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  85. Because a knee problem is different than a heart issue. Its a much more sacred and personal issue. Even if Remy is in no danger, there is no need to air it out to the public due to the context. He was coming in for a medical and was not a Liverpool player. Its a much more personal issue. Only people craving to know more are snoopers and peepers.

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  86. I had faith that we would do well with Remy In the squad... Now bony. As a prospect doesn't excite me one iota. Bite the bullet LFC

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  87. Very true it's a no brainer

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  88. Ayre is incapable to execute these deals. He is either inept or just clueless.


    QUOTE FROM THE PAST:

    “Liverpool had such a simple way of handling transfers. Old Bob would just pick the players he wanted to bring to Anfield and John
    Smith and Peter Robinson would sort out the deals.”

    Kenny Dalglish. How we miss those days ...

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  89. Spot on Adam. I find the Football Manager fans amusing. Reality is there are very few quality strikers available. Then there is cost and wages (which everyone seems to forget). Plus Liverpool just isn't a big draw for this generation. They want capital cities, glamour, guarantee that the sugar daddy will buy a CL spot every year (or at least pay huge wages). LFC could make CL the next 4 years and still not be able to attract some of these players.

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  90. The whole medical with Remy seems off.
    Why get the player to fly across to the US for a medical and then dump him? All other signings current medicals at Melwood. Why the double standards?


    The repercussions of not signing another striker will bite us back big.

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  91. They will be signing another striker. Patience is a virtue. The idea that they won't is laughable so just relax.

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  92. Thats a good option Er

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  93. thexcuriousxwanderer3:44 am, August 08, 2014

    I think when players sign nowadays it's as much the manager as the club. Managers attract big names. BR is relatively unproven, and having a decent season does not a good manager make. If we make it to the top four again, I think it would be easier to attract talent. Seems like a vicious circle to me, but if BR is any good, we should stick to him and let him grow, as well as let other people see his growth.

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  94. FALCOA -oh boy oh boy oh boy

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  95. Someone at the club didn't think Remy was the fit otherwise he would be a Liverpool player by now. I think that someone was Rodgers. I sincerely believe it's about money and broken promises to Rodgers. It is ludicrous with only a short time to the season opener that LFC do not have a world class striker. The club have known for months that Suarez would be leaving, there is definitely behind the scenes politics going on involving FSG and Rodgers.

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  96. RRemy is not a contracted LFC player and as such Liverpool is not at liberty to publish his medical condition. It's as simple as that. Next story.

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  97. Yokohama Liverpool Fan5:59 am, August 08, 2014

    Whatever happened to Marcos Rojo, Daley Blind, Ricardo Rodgriguez?! I'm glad we dodged the Davies and Bertrand bullet but with just over a week to go we haven't addressed our main void: Class striker and left back after spending nearly 100m...?!

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  98. Yokohama Liverpool Fan6:05 am, August 08, 2014

    I have a sneaking suspicion that our transfer funds are also going towards contract renewals such as Henderson, Coutinho's bumper raise and Gerrard's extension. If FSG weren't clear about this with BR then it will be akin to Rafa's rant after something similar was done by G&H only BR is silently fuming.

    BR had probably hoped to sign a WC striker and Remy but this can no longer be done. Squabbling over the Moreno deal probably ties in as well. BR probably thought he had a lot more to work with hence our purchase of Origi who we won't see this season and our generous offer for Lallana.

    At any rate we are not a bottom less pit and we have a stadium to build also. We could go through years of barren transfer windows much like Arsenal did until they have recently loosened the purse strings.

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  99. Has anybody including Lawro considered the possibility of a personal medical issue which I recollect happened with another Player LFC where trying to buy many years ago. LFC never disclosed the reason but respected the player in the matter to avoid embarrassment. History might be repeating itself.

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  100. Jaimie I don't know why you deleted his and I comments about your LFC apologist argument. Surely he's allowed to voice his displeasure if he has a problem with you branding him an LFC apologist?

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  101. I dont think it has anything to do with his heart condition,,the condition itself is well known by all..it was definately something else and LFC dont want to be the one to label him...

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  102. We should make a cheeky bid of 5mn for Torres, if he is ready to slash his wages. Who knows? He might score against Chelsea and that 5mn will be worth it. lo!
    On a serious note, Torres of old would suit Rodgers style.

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  103. It's also no longer a case of just asking the owners for money, there are FFP rules to consider. Blaming stingy owners is a red herring because everything the club spends goes on the books and there is no magical writing away of debts. The tricks used by City and Chelsea are dubious at best, in truth it's just plain cheating. Liverpool are running at a loss and that needs to change otherwise we'll get punished for it. At the end of the day the numbers have to add up and no amount of screaming for investment will change that. FSG have increased the revenue of the club dramatically, they've done brilliantly in that department, so if Liverpool don't have the money to spend then the owners can't be blamed.

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  104. Agger wants to leave to probably become a primary defender in another top team - why not Liverpool if BR can work such wonders with players? You also ignore the background and obvious animosity between Reina and BR..


    How players are treated IS important and a rational concern. Unless of course you take the view that BR is always right . Both players were among our most highly rated and therefore costly players

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  105. Perhaps the deal was not cancelled due to medical reasons , I've heard that it might have been cancelled due to 3rd party ownership. Just saying

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  106. Unfortunately I think the club thought that a return to the CL would mean that top players would que up to join us. Rogers is a fine manager and will only get better but he has no draw for the top stars. Look at LVG and see the difference. We messed up the Remy deal and I think the club thought they would be able to get a Falcao, Cavani or Lavetzii type of player but it is proving very difficult. Add to this the lure of London and we are depending on players with desire over wages and location and this is rare.
    We may be in big trouble here, I hope there is a rabbit in rogers hat or else top 4 with only Sturridge, Lambert and Borini will be nearly impossible and yet again Liverpool will miss the boat and the golden opportunity to progress. I hope I'm wrong I really do

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  107. I think it's less to do with what Liverpool have to hide, and more to do with off-pitch issues that could reflect badly on both parties if we were to sign him.
    Remy did well last season, so why didn't Newcastle snap him up straight away? They must have had first refusal.
    Why isn't Harry jumping for joy that he's got a great striker back?
    There is information behind the scenes that may never come to light, but I don't think it has anything to do with Liverpool FC, their conduct or business practices.

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  108. I wouldn't be at all surprised to see us do a u turn. I think it could all be tied up with Borini's move to Sunderland

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  109. Cavani IMO is our biggest chance because he'll probably be very keen to hit the ground running again after his shitty experience at PSG. He'll know that he needs a club that will definitely facilitate that, and LFC is a great candidate.

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  110. We have replaced Suarez with Lambert, which should tell us we will probably score fewer than 70 goals in the league next season.


    And we have not fixed the two biggest defensive liabilities from last season, Mignolet and Sakho, which means we will again concede close to 50 goals. If Lovren keeps Sakho permanently out of the first team it would help some.


    With yet another very disappointing transfer window, we should get poised for a finish outside the top 4 or even 6, unless some big transfers happen before the window closes. Remy would be one of those that could change the picture, IMO.

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  111. For the last time, we have not replaced Suarez with Lambert.

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  112. No, leave him to warm the bench at the "bigger club".

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  113. I wouldnt panic too much about man utd and not us getting Vidal. He's a rich mans Henderson... Puts pressure on the ball to force the opposition into mistakes. Plus Henderson is actually better on the ball. Higher passing accuracy and more chances created. Vidal scores more alright and tackles more but the EPL is quicker and too much tackling is liable to give away frees/penalties. Besides all that, Can looks very promising too. Cuadrado.... I wouldn't hold him up to be much better than sterling/coutinho/lallana. Di Maria is unreal alright but id say he would prefer to go to somewhere like juventus or psg. we get a left back and a striker and we'll make it past the group stages and push for the title again

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  114. PSG don't want him anymore. Been priced out.

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  115. Well i suppose the good news is if 'they' have been priced out then hes probably in the 50m+ range which would mean it would be very unlikely utd go for him AND vidal. If somebody does buy Vidal and they do it before di maria gets sold then maybe juve would have the funds to buy him!

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  116. Really? That's your list of Suarez replacements? Gabby Agbonlahor? What are you smoking?

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  117. As good as Falcao is or was I think it would be a mistake if he came to Liverpool. First, he's injury prone and as the article states he just recently is recovering from ACL tear. It's quite risky to bring him in at this stage. Secondly, if he would rather go to Real Madrid over LFC it just shows you what kind of player he is. There is no room for him at Real Madrid. He's after the money, and it would be a shame to pay him so much money for a loan move when he has no interest for the club.

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  118. Falcao is arguably the best replacement for Suarez,but with his injury prone nature i really dont know.On loan makes all the sense in the world.But i still think we should get Bonny.Lambert is already too old and another Aspas i far as i can see.

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  119. We've gone from Luis Suarez to Rickie Lambert with a week to go before kick off. Go figure.

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  120. This one is simply never going to happen i would prefer they went for Cavani and he is way over priced also.

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  121. If Liverpool had released reports about the medical you'd have written an article on how disgracefully unprofessional they are. There's just no pleasing you is there?

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  122. Absolute nonsense. Don't tell me what I would've written. Posting details about failed medicals is perfectly normal, and lots of other clubs offer rudimentary details in similar situations.

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  123. Sorry Jaimie LFC owe our fans nothing but a clean seat, the normal amenities and a safe environment at Anfield to watch our favourites. The football game is big business and only those with substantial shareholdings are entitled to knowledge of the inner workings of the Club. -
    Manchester United fans are now very aware of that!

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  124. As you say BR did not need to divulge any private medical matters. He did though need to manage the fall out to counter stories about Liverpool pulling out for other reasons which looks bad


    I should be possible with a good eye for PR to manage that without going too far into details. Unless of course there are other reasons for puling out . The doubt now is there in peoples minds.

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  125. Nevergonnacrackthecode11:19 am, August 08, 2014

    no way jaimie ,rather have peterson

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  126. Medical conditions can change over time sometimes radically and quickly. Also there is a risk and without full knowledge we cannot properly assess that risk. The downside might be so severe that the club do not think it is a risk worth taking. Again though we can only speculate

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  127. id go for remy when you consider the insurance that Frances national team has to get in a world cup played Brazil ( kidnapping , shooting ) the scutiny must of been there on all levels

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  128. I think the shock of telling him the deal was off might have been a test and we can now sign him.

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  129. B Rodgers is playing with fire, L Remy(27) is a guaranteed 15-25 goals a season striker. And would lead the line on his own well if D Sturridge(24) was injured.


    We are now linked with E Cavani(27) but in last two years i have not been impressed with Cavani(27) and feel L Remy(27) is a much better finisher than Cavani and offers more mobility, pace and speed to attack which would suit B Rodgers style and system.


    E Cavani(27) will cost the club £45-£55M and will not guarantee the club 15-25 goals in Premiership a season as he has not played here, L Remy(27) the owners and club need to eat humble pie and get him to the club asap. Whether we have F Borini(23) at club or not, L Remy(27) is better than R Lambert(32) and F Borini(23).


    And would probably be the best finisher at the club


    B Rodgers should spend £58M on these 3 attacking players instead:


    1: M Reus(24) Of B Dortmund for £22-£28M RW / RWF
    2: J Claise(23) Of Feyenoord for £14-18M CM
    3: L Remy(27) Of QPR for £9-£12M FD

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  130. It would be a short sighted ownership that failed to consider fans as anything other than punters to milk.

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  131. if as other posters are saying that the funds have been spent that would be insane.To sell your striker with out replacing would be Pl SUICIDE

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  132. I agree. Apparently Bruce Grobbelaar has said that a big name will be coming to Liverpool soon .........

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  133. At least your suggestions have improved and are more realistic. Clasie is quality and I would like him but we already have lots of CM's. I would like Remy and Reus but unfortunately, he most probably will not be coming.

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  134. There are only 3 players out of all that have been mentioned that make any kind of sense both financially and proven goalscoring ability in the prem..That Remy , Bony , Balo ( no comment req logan ive heard them all ) all others will be punts or will need bedding in time we neeed a proven goalscorer who has a good chance of hitting the deck running, at this point id even throw defoes name in there

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  135. Who or what have we replaced him with then?

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  136. Spirit of the Shadows11:43 am, August 08, 2014

    Inevitably, we are linked with kalou. Sigh. Would rather have benteke or jovetic

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  137. lazer and llana although they dont play in his position

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  138. kalou is like haleys comet it always comes round eventually

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  139. I thought we were looking for a winger when we still had Suarez and even Lallana was targeted before (cough) it was known that he was leaving

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  140. i think rogers has gone for the random effect strategy where he just buys a load of random style players and hopes the universe some how guides them in a position to cover suarez and his goals its a brave move by brendan

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  141. Phew I can rest easy now Bendarn does have a plan after all

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  142. its a spiritual plan that requires a lot of transcendental meditation but its a plan non the less

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  143. Well, we had Aspas but sadly he wanted to be the "man" at Sevilla.

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  144. PREDICTION - With one week of transfer window left B R makes his move and OWNERS REFUSE TO BUY - 2 years on we have learnt nothing -

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  145. We cant even sort out bloody Borini and Agger

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  146. Assaidi as well and it is coming time for them to sell before they buy i think there's a few more to be sorted out as well.

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  147. Why haven't we signed a left back yet.. Just wierd. Why is the Moreno deal taking do long?

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  148. Sign andre ayew n falcao or say goodbye to liverpool's
    title hope

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  149. Sign ayew n bony n win the league

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  150. Just a thought, maybe, just maybe LFC's medicals are far more thorough, or stringent, how other clubs carry out their medicals is of no concern to us whatsoever. If it all went pear shaped LFC would be called irresponsible. Who is not to say that as Remy gets older his heart defect may have more bearing on his future and therefore negate a long term contract, like I said, just a thought. I wish he had passed the medical though, he would have been a great addition. Oh an for those saying disclosing the reason could damage his prospects, equally LFC staying quiet isn't exactly helpful to the player, I mean any club is bound to now be wary..

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  151. Totally agree. If you didn't get an ordinary job because of medical reasons, you would not expect the company to make it public knowledge that you had said health problem. Like you say, totally unprofessional and unfair on the player as it could have a negative effect on his future employment opportunities

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  152. Reading papers we should abandon ALL SOUTH AMERICANS = ALL THEY INTERESTED IN IS MONEY -NO LOYALTY -BR GO FOR THE BURNLEY LAD

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  153. although clubs medicals may well differ i would have thought that certain aspects due to insurance and medical reasons may well be uniform,it doesn't matter if its a football club or a leisure center employee a health professional cant fudge the figures and are bound by rules.

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  154. strange one assadi like borini another player rogers splashed out on for no real reason except he had the money in his pocket

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  155. If he was he might have done a better job on his nose!

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  156. He actually looked very good when he played in the EL but BR never gave him a chance.

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  157. mark Hughes rates him is lazer 13m pound better the juries out

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  158. We wouldn't of flown the guy out to the states for a medical without speaking to his agent in order to ascertain that his contract demands were in line with what we wanted to offer. Makes no sense.

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  159. Lets hope a lot of this seasons buys are not the next Alberto's or Borini's i cant see some getting much of a look in.

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  160. I think you should start your own LFC site. Common sense as always.

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  161. Perhaps a certain Mr Suarez can repay Liverpool by having a word with his mate.

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  162. Someone has to make an offer first.

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  163. if that's true, why did Marseille publicly reveal details about Remy's failed medical? Why did QPR do the same? Why did Steve Bruce reveal the details of Charlie Austin's failed medical?

    What you've described does not represent reality. It is just an excuse designed to indirectly defend LFC.

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  164. I have been reading the comments/responses on here and it seems like Jaimie K doesn't understand the difference between a knee injury and a heart issue. Jamie has talked about other clubs revealing results of a medical. The difference is that a heart issue is a much more sacred and personal matter. Not only for Remy, but his family as well. I support Liverpool in the way it handled this. They treated Remy with respect and integrity.

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  165. Liverpool have had real issues with player injuries in the past (Yesil, Aquilani, Agger, Carroll ect...) I can understand a very tough policy when it comes to medicals.

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  166. It is not for Liverpool to comment on a player that IS NOT theirs regarding medical information - that is private and confidential and could be detrimental to a players career. By all means Remy himself could say why he failed a medical, but the club cannot comment about the player. It is up to other clubs to find a defect or reason why a player may or may not fail a medical. Each club has different measures, Liverpool's medical may be more gruelling than say QPR's or Newcastle's. But what Liverpool cannot do is reveal personal information about an individual, that would be a gross misconduct of private and confidential information, especially regarding a player that is not theirs to speak about. Imagine if Liverpool released a statement saying (for example) "We chose not to sign the player because during a medical it was found that Remy has two left feet" his value would plummet, other clubs might turn a blind eye, it could potentially ruin his career. It is not a case of cloak and dagger, more decency and legality.

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  167. We had the same problem for years under rick parry; squabbling over relatively small amounts in football terms, drawn out transfer sagas, missing out on seemingly done deals in the 11tth hour to our closest rivals. FSG came in and seemed to have heard the fans displeasure at that. We had two windows where they said okay, we'll get deals done with little fuss and ensure there is no delay. We ended up paying 35 million for Carroll, 16 million for downing and 20 mill for Henderson (now not a bad amount but for a season looked like a laughing stock). The grass is not always greener. I think we've been fairly sensible in the market so far. We identified the players we want and, bar a striker, we've gone out and got them early on.

    Unless you're RM, Barca, Bayern etc strikers are notoriously difficult to pick up, especially those in the bracket we're looking at. Agreed, it will be disturbing if we do not sort one very soon, but sure we'll do something before the window closes and until then we should have enough to cope.

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  168. Diehard Liverpool2:02 pm, August 08, 2014

    Practically we do not stand a chance of signing Cavani/Falcao/Reus.
    Rodgers has wasted money on Lallana and Emre can. He shouldve opted for Vidal instead. Though Lovren is a good signing, he coulve tried for Hummels (almost the same price). He couldve tried for Fillippe luis/Ricardo rodriguez/Blind, instead of wasting time on Moreno. At the start of transfer market we needed a solid left back and a solid striker. After spending 100 million we still need a solid left back and a solid striker. WHAT THE CRAP IS RODGERS DOING???
    Now that these cant be reverted we should:
    1) Force the move of Moreno
    2) Sign Icardi/Bony + Lavezzi
    3) Kick Glen johnshon out of the team and get Dani Alves
    4) Get Diego Lopez as back up goal keeper (hard Real madrid is kicking him out)

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  169. Don't take it if someone does..

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  170. AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

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  171. mAYBE THEY DIDN'T LEAVE IT FOR THE END? rEMY MEDICAL WAS 7 DAYS AGO..

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  172. That is the only change you see?!?

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  173. He does, he was astute enough to pick him every week.

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  174. I think it had something to do with his attitude.
    There was a clue in an interview with Rodgers shortly afterwards where he stated that he likes to look into a players eyes and make sure they have the right moral structure for LFC.

    I believe he may have come across badly when questioned by Rodgers and rather than cast aspersions on his character they used the medical as a scapegoat.

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  175. 'great club but wasn't good enough for me.'

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  176. It's just my opinion on how I would feel about it if I was Remy. Also nobody from Liverpool has confirmed our reasons for pulling out so ultimately we're all speculating. Still wouldn't be surprised if we ended up signing him

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  177. liverpoolforeverveteran3:13 pm, August 08, 2014

    Guys like most of you I am with Liverpool for as long as I can remember. But now a days we don't see real quality players willing to come to us. Rafa was a master tactician when recruiting, he brought in some quality players over the years. it is not that I don't trust BR, but the players he brought in last year did not make any impact and this year too we will see a lot of flop. Liverpool has become a cheap team now a days, we are only looking for a bargain and then we are struggling year in and out, always the same old story. Liverpool has always been a place where no team wanted to come because of our hard and powerful defence, now its rubbish, any team can come and score and beat us. We do not have the same flair that we use to have, some fans will not like it but we have to face the truth. We will find ourselves with Ricky only. What a shame and joke, not even a well known stricker wants to come to us, we ain't got no money.

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  178. I have wanted Remy(27) for ages sid, Remy(27) would cost us £40M less than Cavani(27) and Falcao(28) and score more than both of them.


    J Claise(23) Of Feyenoord is of similar mould of T Alacantra(23) but cheaper alternative and at a club nowhere near as Big as our club


    M Reus(24) Of B Dortmund should be our Marquee signing this summer

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  179. Bony is not good for us. I won't be happy if he came to Liverpool. Falcao, Cavani or Lavezzi.

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  180. Benzema is the best replacement...

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  181. Nevergonnacrackthecode4:13 pm, August 08, 2014

    what arsenal are

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  182. For once, I completely agree with you!! Although, we have no immediate NEED for Claise, unless we ship out Allen (which admittedly would be ideal). My perfect window:


    OUT:
    Borini- 14M (Or whatever it was Sunderland offered)
    Assaidi- 8-10M
    Allen- 10-15M (unlikely to be sold though)
    Agger- 10-15M (Don't want him to go, but looks likely.)


    IN:
    Blind/Moreno- 15-20M
    Remy/Lacazette- 10-15M
    Claise- 15-20M (if Allen goes)
    Reus- 25-30M


    Borini would cover most of his replacement (Remy/Lacazette) Allen would cover most of his (Claise) and Agger and Assaidi would cover the LB and maybe 5M of Reus. Essentially we're spending a net 25M.

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  183. Although I agree, Rafa did get 86 points and 2nd place in 08/9

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  184. That same player was there when we finished 6th and 7th

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  185. J Claise(23) is a Dutch international and offers more class and creativity than J Allen(24). So B Rodgers should take a gamble on him


    There needs to be a lot more players shipped out though THIS SUMMER Not Now: These players also:


    B Jones GK S Coates CB K Toure CB


    G Johnson RB M Kelly RB L Leiva DM

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  186. We have far more flair now than at any time under Rafa, even when we came 2nd. We lost that year cos Rafa wouldn't let the team off the leash to go for wins and preferred to take the draw. We had 5 games and drew 2 when to win one and lose one would have been better or win one and draw the other would have won the League.

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  187. If we ship out Agger, we can't afford to also ship our Toure and Coates. Besides, Toure is here for his locker room presence and his experience. His contract runs out next year anyway. Coates has shown good form lately, so I'd say keep him till Jan and see if he proves himself. Jones needs to go, but we also need to bring in a good backup, which frankly isn't a priority atm. Johnson needs out asap. Kelly needs a loan to prove himself, with option to buy. And Lucas we need for backup. He does need to go, but there aren't many replacements currently on the market. A Claise-Lucas replacement might be more practical since Allen at least has age on his side.

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  188. check Man Utd signing .. they are not in the UCL and they are making signing better than us
    Remy would be great as super sub or if he take Sturridge place but not as our new #7

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  189. B Rodgers should keep D Agger(29) and ship out S Coates(23) and K Toure(33) as Agger(29) is better than both of them put together.


    M Kelly(24) and G Johnson(29) both need to shipped out and sold.


    Skrtel(29) and Agger(29) would be my Champions league centre back partnership.


    Lovren(24) and Sakho(24) would be my premier league centre back partnership.


    L Leiva(27) should be shipped out for £10-£12M and B Rodgers should add £6-£8M and bring in B Matuidi(27) for £18-£20M ( Upgrade)


    J Claise(23) Of Feyenoord should be brought to club for £10-£18M to compete with J Allen(24)

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  190. Very few teams have spent more than LFC; the difference is, LFC generally tend to waste the majority of transfer funds on the wrong players, and that's definitely the case under Rodgers (as it was under Benitez at times)

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  191. It's not just Liverpool remaining silent on the issue.. Remy is also. I've yet to read any public comments on the matter by the player.

    You have to ask yourself why ?

    I would hazard a guess(without jumping to conclusions) that with both parties remaining silent on the issue, that's what was agreed by both parties . for whatever reason.

    In a situation like this where there is a clear lack of information.. speculation will always fill the vacuum.

    Whether by a confidentiality clause or by a hand shake all we do know is neither party involved i.e. LFC and Remy want discus the matter..

    Any further talk on this matter is ultimately pointless.

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  192. I think if we could persuade Man City to let go of
    Stevan Jovetic, then we should buy him no
    Matter what the cost, he is a proven goal scorer
    he has proven he can cope with the pace of the
    EPL, and I believe he would score 20 plus goals
    per season. Not just a good striker, the likes of
    Bony or Remy, but top class, put hands in
    Pocket and let's have someone that can score
    The same rate of goals as sturridge and supply.
    Come on Brendan, make us proud, YNWA

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  193. And we're was it Chelsea finished last
    season? Oh yea that's right, below LFC. So
    For a team that can't buy top players but
    Can finish above a team that spends
    Stupid money on stupid players. To finish
    3rd, if that was me, I wouldn't be shouting
    too loud. But then each to there own. But
    Rather not waste money on players that
    Don't gel, Brendan knew what he was doing
    Last season, I have faith. YNWA.

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  194. Only player missed from that 11th hour is
    Suarez, oh and look he helped us to 2nd
    Place, and we made £52m profit on him.
    So not all 11th hr buys are bad, it's not
    Good business on paper but sometimes it's
    Were u get the best out of other teams.
    Hopefully BR goes for Jovetic

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  195. Ye at 300k a week, get real

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  196. Maybe its just respect ?

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