In November 2012, Liverpool target Moussa Sow revealed that he rejected a move to Anfield during the January 2011 transfer window. The Fenerbahce striker has been linked with a move to Anfield many times in the past, and reports in Turkey today claim that the Reds are still monitoring the striker's transfer situation.
According to Fanatik, one of Turkey's most popular sport magazines, Sow is one of Liverpool's 'top targets' for the upcoming summer transfer window, and he's expected to cost around €15m.
Speaking to French newspaper Liberation in March, Sow seemingly issued a 'come and get me' plea to Liverpool. He said:
"There is a lot of talk. Everyone knows I want to play in the Premier League one day. If Liverpool made a formal offer and if my club accepted I would be happy to play in England"
In an interview in November, Sow - who has grabbed 27 goals and 6 assists in 67 appearances for Fenherbace - claimed:
"Both Arsenal and Liverpool had tried to sign me before I ended up in Fenerbahce."
Sow - a Muslim - later explained why he rejected the Reds:
"My religious view was a major factor in my decision to join Fenerbahce".
In January this year, a report in Fanatik claimed that Liverpool had put in a €15m offer for the prolific goalscorer, whose current contract expires in 2016.
Prior to his move to Turkey, Sow revealed his admiration for Liverpool. He told Sky Sports in January 2012:
"Liverpool, well, that is a dream club. Anyone would be happy, scoring goals in front of the Kop can be the highlight of a career".
In an article for Spanish newspaper AS today, Guillem Balague claims that Luis Suarez is 'determined' to leave Anfield this summer, and earlier this evening, Suarez also told Uruguayan radio that he'd find it 'difficult to say no to Real Madrid'.
I've argued for months that Suarez will leave Liverpool in the upcoming transfer window, and along the way, I've highlighted the contradictory nature of the Uruguayan's many statements on his future (much to the chagrin of his rabid followers).
Predictably, however, even when the blindingly obvious is staring them in the face, a section of denial-afflicted LFC fans continually refuse to countenance the possibility of Suarez leaving. It's understandable, though - the truth hurts, and fans would rather bury their heads in the sand than accept that their idol might actually want to leave.
Here's hoping Brendan Rodgers doesn't suffer the same level of denial, and is actively scouring the market for a viable replacement.
Sow star clearly wants to play for Liverpool, so should the club make a bid in the summer?
N.B. Suggesting LFC fans are 'in denial' is not an insult, and it's ridiculous to even suggest it, as some have when I've used the phrase 'denial-afflicted' in the past.
Jaimie Kanwar
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According to Fanatik, one of Turkey's most popular sport magazines, Sow is one of Liverpool's 'top targets' for the upcoming summer transfer window, and he's expected to cost around €15m.
Speaking to French newspaper Liberation in March, Sow seemingly issued a 'come and get me' plea to Liverpool. He said:
"There is a lot of talk. Everyone knows I want to play in the Premier League one day. If Liverpool made a formal offer and if my club accepted I would be happy to play in England"
In an interview in November, Sow - who has grabbed 27 goals and 6 assists in 67 appearances for Fenherbace - claimed:
"Both Arsenal and Liverpool had tried to sign me before I ended up in Fenerbahce."
Sow - a Muslim - later explained why he rejected the Reds:
"My religious view was a major factor in my decision to join Fenerbahce".
In January this year, a report in Fanatik claimed that Liverpool had put in a €15m offer for the prolific goalscorer, whose current contract expires in 2016.
Prior to his move to Turkey, Sow revealed his admiration for Liverpool. He told Sky Sports in January 2012:
"Liverpool, well, that is a dream club. Anyone would be happy, scoring goals in front of the Kop can be the highlight of a career".
In an article for Spanish newspaper AS today, Guillem Balague claims that Luis Suarez is 'determined' to leave Anfield this summer, and earlier this evening, Suarez also told Uruguayan radio that he'd find it 'difficult to say no to Real Madrid'.
I've argued for months that Suarez will leave Liverpool in the upcoming transfer window, and along the way, I've highlighted the contradictory nature of the Uruguayan's many statements on his future (much to the chagrin of his rabid followers).
Predictably, however, even when the blindingly obvious is staring them in the face, a section of denial-afflicted LFC fans continually refuse to countenance the possibility of Suarez leaving. It's understandable, though - the truth hurts, and fans would rather bury their heads in the sand than accept that their idol might actually want to leave.
Here's hoping Brendan Rodgers doesn't suffer the same level of denial, and is actively scouring the market for a viable replacement.
Sow star clearly wants to play for Liverpool, so should the club make a bid in the summer?
N.B. Suggesting LFC fans are 'in denial' is not an insult, and it's ridiculous to even suggest it, as some have when I've used the phrase 'denial-afflicted' in the past.
Jaimie Kanwar
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I would doubt it considering we have just got a new striker!!
ReplyDeleteYou must be bored.....;)
If Suarez goes, that leaves LFC in the same position, i.e. needing another striker.
ReplyDeleteWe need to get a good deal out of this. We need to show we wont be getting the piss taken out of us, hes not long signed a new contract I reckon we could get either Higuain or Benzema and some cash for Suarez. Imo that wouldn't be a bad idea, the new lad Aspas hopefully will come in and integrate with another player from La Liga. This need not be a crisis if we handle it well.
ReplyDeleteI'd much rather have Sow come in than this other guy, whether Suarez stays or not, as we desperately need a quality CF.
ReplyDeleteIf Suarez does go, then a quality wide-forward to replace him moves even higher up the priority scale than it is already.
What player wouldn't find it hard to say no to Madrid??
ReplyDeleteIt means nothing. The media love blowing everything Suarez says out of proportion.
I would love Benzema but I highly doubt he would come to us.
ReplyDeleteGoodbye Suarez. He has been the agent of his own downfall and as far as im concerned his biting antics where a ploy to force the hand of the club into selling him.
ReplyDeleteSuarez for a Sow's ear, no thank you.
ReplyDeleteI want Arda Turan, Henrikh Mkhitaryan, Gonzalo Higuain and I would happily sell Suarez.
ReplyDeleteAs I said in the article: in denial.
ReplyDeleteSuarez leaving was always going to be a possibility. I don't think this interview makes it more likely that he will stay, let's put it that way.
ReplyDeleteIF there's a genuine buyout clause in his contract it will be that much and no more. If so then I'd want it done right away to give us time to get a decent replacement.
if not, then we should slap a massive price on his head, he's as good as Bale for sure, so £50-60m it should be, if they want him they'll have to pay. He has to continue to provide the goods- it's World Cup year.
For £50m we will be able to get 2-3 top class players. But Suarez should respect all the faith we've shown in him, not make eyes at Madrid etc and blame the media.
He will more than likely go. Other than Gerrard I think if Barca, Real or Munich came in for any of them they would all go. Thing is Suarez is prob the only one they would come in for (and maybe Reina). So with the others we don`t have to worry, but with Suarez you would have to have some really strong faith in club loyatly to expect him to stay.
ReplyDeleteWe need to buy class players like Arda Turan, Modric and possibly B Yilmaz from Galatasaray, Ive seen this boy play and hes quality
ReplyDeleteThere is a part of me that thinks the club knows suarez is going and therefore trying to get a few cheaper deals done first before the other clubs we will be buying from find out we got 40mil from selling Suarez and in turn whack up the prices they want.
ReplyDeleteWhenever you sell someone for loads, every club you try to buy from suddenly wants more as you cant use the line " we got no cash".
£25 million plus Higuain & Alonso and you can have him
ReplyDeleteApparently we have agreed a fee for Iago Aspas.
ReplyDeletedone lol.
ReplyDeletetbh 10 mil and them two and I would be happy. Cant see Higuain wanting to come to us tho :-(
We could at least ask for him and see what he says if they agree to it lol
ReplyDeleteIf I'm honest if I was liverpool I'l ask for benzema and 35 million :-) il be happy with that! But hopefully Suarez does stay fans love him, f*ck the newspapers.
ReplyDeleteIf its straight cash i wouldnt even consider anything under £50 million as we got that for some fella who had forgotten how to play football a few years ago :)
ReplyDeletealso judging from his comments today he is 100% off . He basically came out and said I want to leave and I have told Rodgers. He even goes as far as saying some of his team mates understand. I just hope that aspa isnt meant to be his replacement. Aspa is a good player but by no means a replacement.
ReplyDeleteI am hearing the same but apparently the agreed fee will dramatically lower if his club get relegated
ReplyDeleteI do agree, unless he has that rumoured 40mil clause. When we sell him I just hope we get a big amount for him, and ALL of it can be used to buy new players. Anything less than that and I will be out of the liking FSG camp
ReplyDeleteI think Agger would stay if they came knocking at his door he seems very loyal to LFC
ReplyDeleteapparently that Guilliam Balauge fella has tweeted that he will tweet tomorrow yet another lfc signing besides aspas, he is always bang on the ball with players from the Spanish league, who could it be, very intriguing indead.
ReplyDeleteIt seems likely that Luis Suarez is on his way out. I hope he stays. I haven't seen a footballer like him in a Liverpool jersey. I loved Torres too and thought he would retire at Liverpool. I wish we don't turn into selling club. World class players like Suarez are hard to find and one must add on it to succeed. For me Luis Suarez is among the top 5 players in the world. Irreplaceable.
ReplyDeleteTello
ReplyDeleteif he goes he goes if you are a true fan u stick with your team through the thick and thin he's a great player and will be missed but 40-50 million in liverpools spending pot is amazing with his eye for cheep talent when one top player at a team goes another one will always step up and replace him because there always has to be one best player
ReplyDeleteReina is not a priority for Barca. Galatasaray rejected Barcelona bid for Fernando Muslera of around 17mn euros. That's too much for a goalie and it suggests that Barca are serious about him. Reina is staying I reckon.
ReplyDeleteJesus Navas
ReplyDeleteThis is not a crisis anyway mate, we have had players leave in the past and when they leave a new star emerges and replaces them :)
ReplyDeleteor Tello lol
ReplyDeleteYeah he rarely gets it wrong.
ReplyDeleteMoussa Sow. I'm not sure about him. He looks pretty decent though - can certainly put the ball in the net anyway.
ReplyDeleteMoving swiftly on to Mr Suarez... anyone else think he bit Ivanovic on purpose? I mean if he really is trying to force a move - its not completely out of the question. I'm not sure how much truth is in his words - but what a c*** if its true. I'm sorry but after all the club has done to stand by him and his crazy antics - Hes just going to up and leave? Obviously, his talents deserve to be tested against the best in europe. But the way I see it - he owes us big time.
I had expected him to move but I thought he'd at least act like he wanted to stay. I feel so sorry for LFC - especially Rodgers. And I'm sure like me; most supporters would feel utterly betrayed if Suarez did move. Because lets face it - all Madrid have to do now is put in an outrageous bid; Liverpool will accept (which to be fair; as they should) and hes gone.
always rated navas, although I know for a fact that tello is very highly rated amongst barca fans, the part im baffled with is where are they gona play? maybe its alonso as part of the suarez thingy.
ReplyDeleteAgreed, however we finished 7th, and 8th last year and 6th year before that. Nothing can be done really. Suarez like you said is one of the top 5 players in the world playing for a club who is prob not even in the top 15/20 clubs in the world right now.
ReplyDeleteI think though as long as we get all the money from the sale back into the kitty, it may be a good thing if he goes. In principle if used well we could look a lot stronger next year. 40mil should buy us 2 top players and one ok player. Thats a lot stronger team. Currently as much as I love Suarez, the team needs more better players to compete and as was shown this year having him doesn`t give us fourth, therefore maybe it wont be so bad.
Forgeting any money given on top, look at it like this. Purely on a money like for like thing
Suarez - 40mil
or
Papa - CB 12mil
Eriksen - AM - 12mil
Henrikh Mkrchyan - 16mil
Thats three top players for the price of one. All acheiveable deals too. Yes we will be down a striker, but if we were given 20mil from FSG then that can be used on that, or we have Sturridge and Aspa as strikers, although I think a new one would def be needed if Suarez goes.
By losing Suarez we could in turn gain a lot of quality all over the pitch, filling the areas which have voids right now, making us a team.
I really dont think he bit Ivanovic on purpose and i would not feel betrayed if he left, the guy worked harder then anyone else for us all season and last season too. I will be gutted if/when he leaves but i will not feel betrayed by him but each to their own :)
ReplyDeleteif we could make those signings from the suarez sale then I personally would be very happy with it.
ReplyDeleteyep and thats my point. While I would prefer Suarez to stay, if he does go and we use the money well it might not be that bad. Every cloud and all that :-)
ReplyDeleteHonestly, it has crossed my mind a few times. It worked when he was a Ajax, as we then signed him, and it appears to be working this time.
ReplyDeleteMy issue is with him opening his mouth so much. Talking about wanting to leave or considering other clubs is really disrepectful imo. I don`t blame him for wanting to leave, but why cant he do that behind closed doors? why make it public? All that does is lower his value more, after he already lowered it by biting someone.
If he wants to go, then show the fans some deceny and do it the right way, after all, we have supported him through many a hard time all of which he brought on himself.
I completely Agree.
ReplyDeleteI don't know man. I have a different view for the guy. Suarez scored 30 goals with all the bans that he gets, its pretty impressive. If the team still doesn't finish in top 4 then I think the problem is with the rest of the squad. We must improve but not at the cost of Suarez. Players you mentioned are good collectively I agree but with Suarez included, we would kill teams. Its just my feeling anyway, Suarez was my best Liverpool player and I am sad already. Last time I felt like this was when El Nino left. I hope Liverpool buy a quality replacement, thats all I can say for now... :-(
ReplyDeleteYeah me too
ReplyDeleteThats fair. And I completely understand.
ReplyDeleteBut do you not think its unfair of him to try and force the move? Like he was bound to have offers this year. And even prior to his comments we knew Real were looking to spend big and were linked with him. Now hes just played the ball into their hands...
Its being reported Aspas fee has been agreed for between 6-9m, while im happy with this signing (If true), who do we bring in if Suarez ends up at RM?
ReplyDeletesurely we arent going to play the season with Sturridge/Aspas/Borini as our forwards, but if we did how do you think we'd go?
How come we have all these insider clues on names batted about on this website but no inkling of the guy we really sign? Didn't anyone see this Aspas thing coming?
ReplyDeleteIn the chelsea game also take into account the handball, it was blatantly obvious.
ReplyDeleteIt was always gonna be a penalty and then the bite, while i hope its not true there is a strong argument in favour of him doing it to force a move out.
Real almost always spend big every year, and there is no harm in admitting a club interests him just like some of our apparent targets say it would be hard to say no to us, imo a lot of players would have been gone last summer after all that went on with evra and things but he stuck it out and what happened?? he got destroyed most weeks in the press for diving and things when the likes of Bale who was probably the worst in europe for it hardly got a mention, he has a wife and child to think about also and you can only magine the stress it must cause his wife having to read articles that at times are borderline slanderous, i can see why it would appeal to him to move to spain, and if he chooses to then good luck to him, and i realise he brings some stuff on himself .but he is a fighter who fights for everything on the field no matter how lost a cause it seems and i can only admire him for that and i wish we had more players like him
ReplyDeleteyeah I hear you. Ideally you would want to buy all them players listed and keep Suarez, boy o boy what a team that would be.
ReplyDeleteDepends on how many games Borini played
ReplyDeleteI don't know why Liverpool fans would feel upset or betrayed at Suarez going to Madrid. It's kind of ridiculous for any football fan to not understand that. Any of us, if we were even close to good enough to being actual professional footballers, know that playing for a team like Real would be an amazing possibility. Luiz has great appreciation for our club but it's his personal career and his own life that he has to worry about. Putting our vague concepts of loyalty on him and then vilifying him for not living up to our unrealistic expectations is just wrong.
ReplyDeleteWhat he's said is pretty simple: he loves Liverpool, always has, and enjoys playing football for us. But it's been a tough year and his family (I guess mostly his wife) has copped it for what has happened. It would be hard for Sofia to walk down the street without some blue nose having a go at her for what happened. Of course that's Luis's own issue and he's responsible for what he did, but you simply can't live a life where you're constantly under scrutiny and your family cops it no matter what they do. That's an awful experience and it becomes quite irrelevant what the original cause of it is. If Luis can get himself and his wife and child away from that kind of hostile atmosphere then he'll do it and I say fair enough.
This really seems to come down to Real now. Clearly Luis is open to the move and if the conditions are right he'll go. This shouldn't be a surprise to anyone and I'll shake my head at ANY fan that takes it personally and ever subsequently boos the player if he ever came back to Anfield. That's the behaviour of a 10 year old child. Real will have to pay up however, and why not? Ronaldo wanted to go but that didn't degrade the fee United got for him. It will be the same for us. I can't see it happening for less than 50 million and that's a fair price for the club to lose their top scorer.
Worst case scenario for Luis is that the clubs don't come to an agreement and he has to stay for another year with a chance to redeem himself in the public eye. He'll still give everything for the club when he's on the pitch, I just don't see him as the kind of player who can pull on a shirt and not be 100% invested in winning the match. In that regard I'll wait until we get a formal bid from Real before waving him goodbye.
My main question is who replaces him. Where is there a 20 goal a season striker with great awareness, creative ability, absolute determination for 90 minutes and a do-anything-for-the-club attitude? That's who we have to replace.
I don't really agree. He's being honest and I have great respect for that. Keeping things behind closed doors out of some vague sense of respect is an illusion, nothing more. Everyone knew Ronaldo wanted to leave United, he said so quite publicly, and that didn't deflate his price. The reality is that Luis has a contract and if LFC say no then he'll stay. That's very much a real possibility. We do not HAVE to sell him and he'll still play well for us next season if we decide to keep him.
ReplyDeleteIt's not personal, you have to see that. He's actually showing fans plenty of respect by being upfront. Would you really prefer that he not say that he'd like to move, then have his agent manage the whole thing in secret? Then one day it's simply announced that he's leaving with no explanation? That sounds far worse to me. Honesty feels far more important to me, I suspect that fans just don't want to hear it. But if he leaves, those sentiments don't change, it's just weather or not you get to hear them expressed publicly or not. Would you really feel better if he never said he wanted to leave, but then just left and we were all left to guess why?
Is he though? Why does this change anything? If he makes the statement publicly, it doesn't change how he feels. If he wants to leave the club, Real will know about it, that's for sure. You can't keep something like that secret. He'd have to tell his agent and his agent would tell Real, then Real would know and it's no different. Him making these statements in public doesn't change any of that.
ReplyDeleteYeah, he's said he would be comfortable leaving the club, probably he would like us to listen to offers. Still it doesn't mean he's demanded it. If that was the case then it would be a written transfer request and I'll wait a little while to see that before I'm absolutely sure he's gone. I think he's told the club that he's not entirely happy and that if Real come asking then we need to take it as a serious offer and everyone needs to sit down and see if an agreement can be reached. Maybe I'm in denial, but I don't think that means he's out the door. We went through this with Torres and managed to convince him to stay a little longer. The difference is with Luis it's not about the football, so if we continue to improve next season then the situation isn't going to get worse. If he managed to settle and continue to improve his on-field behaviour then who knows.
ReplyDeletesign JACKSON MARTINEZ . we should have done it last time
ReplyDeleteSuarez may well leave, but Sow isn't coming in to replace him. In all honesty as good as Suarez is and as much as I like him and offer in excess of 40m+ I would bite (pun not intended) their hand off.
ReplyDeleteThat could get us two really good players, maybe three if we spend out money right.
What about Higuain? or Soldado?
ReplyDeleteIn fact, we'll take HIg and Xabi and enough change for Tello lol
I think its a weak, meek and a ruse of an excuse, Suarez's so-called reason tonight. The media may have been over the top at times but they haven't been that over the top that he & allegedly his family can't live with it. Not much worse than what some others have got in the past, who themselves have gotten with it and got through it. It was getting much better prior to the Chelsea game with getting plenty of plaudits for his form but what did he go and do? Act like a lunatic again. Some may swallow that excuse he has spun out tonight and maybe right in doing so, to be fair but imo, I don't agree, as he brought most of it upon himself and he (and the club - bloody t-shirts, silly statements, etc)) has made a meal out of it at times. I just think this is all part of a exercise to make it palatable for him to leave the club this summer, i.e., trying to get the sympathy vote to make it easier for him to leave. Very disappointed in him but doubt he cares.
ReplyDeleteI wonder if you will still write about him when he goes to Madrid? Cause it will mosdef validate his point which I do agree with some of it.
ReplyDeleteZANATOS, I was thinking along the same lines.But the smart thing to do would be line up deals sign a fixed price contract that they can't change and press the trigger as soon as the SUAREZ cash comes in.
ReplyDeleteWe saw that when MASCHERANO left for BARCA MEIRELES showed up very quickly after.The TORRES and CARROLL deals were confirmed near enough at the same time too.
Other comment awaiting moderation, not sure what I said ... but the only point I make is: why would he stay? Sure, it's his own doing, but so what? If he's not happy what difference does it make who's fault it is or who caused? Yes, he acted like a nut job, but why does that oblige him to hang around and just accept the abuse? What reason does he have to actually stay if he's unhappy?
ReplyDeletewith all due respect to suarez, i know from the bottom of his heart he loves liverpool. you can see it in matches, how much he wants to win, not for himself but for the fans. you saw that zenit match. but i know luis wont go to another premier league club. if any bayern, real madrid or barcelona should bid for suarez im sorry but a player of his ilk cant continue to play and hope we get champions league which is what he wants. he would have to accept, suarez himself knows how good he is and aint afraid to play for real madrid or barca and knows he could probably score 50goals a season.
ReplyDeletehe may have been contreversial but if he leaves for real madrid, he would have my blessing and i would classify him a loyal servant of liverpool just like alonso. at least he wont go to chelsea like torres and try to score against us
I can still read it but not reply directly to it yet. Here is my reply to it and last thing I want to say:
ReplyDeleteHe is a public figure and is a prominent footballer most, if not all, of what he has gone through is nothing out of the ordinary for a public figure and prominent footballer. Based on that, I simply disagree with your view and your sympathy for Suarez. He is not a average joe, like the rest of us. Like I said, if he simply had said that I want to play for a bigger club & better team that is in CL, that challenges for titles without all the waffle he has said, I would have been happy with that. But yet again, he has made a meal out of things with his spinning, although this time I think his motives behind doing so is very questionable to say the least. You believe his reasoning, I don't or at least don't agree with the strength of it. For the last time as I'm repeating myself and because I don't think we've brought up anything substantially new to further things, I disagree.
Sure, I see that, you just don't believe it and that's fair enough. Maybe he's got other motives he's not talking about. I don't see it that way so sure, nothing more to discuss.
ReplyDeleteBut I'm not sure you're understanding what I'm trying to say. I'm not saying the guy deserves sympathy or forgiveness or any of that. I'm just asking the question: if he's not happy, why stay? What's the actual problem with him just deciding he's not happy and moving on?
The young kid in the BARCELONA youth team we've been linked with for weeks.
ReplyDeleteWell Jamie it is not about fans being in denial it is more never knowing what or who to believe its usually about money anyway.
ReplyDeleteSuarez will probably leave now i myself thought maybe 1 more season none the less he is not gone yet and i pray when he does leave the club can squeeze a big sum.
Please, please let it be Tello!
ReplyDeleteNothing wrong with a player leaving for a bigger club, better team, to play in CL and have a genuine chance of winning honours (and even for financial reasons, to a certain extent). I've always said and implied for those reasons, I could see Suarez leaving and would understand/back him in that regard. Your right, he shouldn't stay if he doesn't want to or is unhappy, I haven't said anything to the contrary.
ReplyDeleteBut I won't stomach waffle, BS or spin to try and make it a palatable exit, especially like he has done. He can go but its a pity the way he is going about it. Left a sour taste. After what he has said, he can still leave but I certainly won't back or understand his so-called reason for doing so. I was hoping he would leave in nice respected circumstances but for me, it isn't to be, after this.
OK, I can see where we differ then and it all comes down to how believable his comments are. You just don't buy them and I do. I agree that if he's not really hurting in the way he says he is and he's just trying to fake some sympathy then it's cheap and sad. But I can absolutely understand, no matter the cause, when large numbers of people express a strong distaste towards you week after week, it will eventually start to break you down, no matter how strong willed you might be. For me it's a believable story and, if true, I see no issue with him simply deciding he's had enough and leaving. So yeah, agree to disagree on that one.
ReplyDeleteI actually hope he can be convinced to stay. I think the interview is him doing his usual thing where he just says whatever comes into his head at the time, basically venting. Maybe he'll get some perspective while overseas but its not hopeful. His home press treats him very kindly and he'll see just how relieved he feels to be away from the kind of attention he gets in England. It's hard to feel that kind of relief and then resolve yourself to go back and face it again unless you have a really good reason to try. I understand exactly where he's coming from because it's something I'm experiencing myself at the moment.
When SUAREZ does eventually leave us I'll have no problem as long as he does it in a way that we can get the maximum amount of money for him. MASCHERANO left us very little choice other than to accept what BARCA were offering.That was the thanks we got for giving life to that dirty little smurfs faltering career.
ReplyDeleteAfter the support the club and the fans have shown SUAREZ we at least deserve the highest possible sum of money in return.If REAL MADRID take the p8ss trying to get a bargain basement deal I'd tell them to f9ck off and we won't be accepting their calls until they get serious.If SUAREZ doesn't like it tough he signed a multi million pound contract improvement last summer.
Exactly. Suarez has told the club and Rodgers that he'd like us to consider selling him. I'm sure the club will do that, no problem, but if it's not ultimately to our favour then he will have to deal with that as a real possibility. We don't have to sell to any team at a cut down price, we don't have to sell at all. Suarez is still happy at the club in footballing terms and if he's told he has to stay he won't sulk like Torres did and if he cleans up his act then the press will ease off.
ReplyDeleteI can't see anything less than a huge fee being acceptable. Suarez is as good as Torres was when we sold to Chelsea so why settle for anything less? We're not going to be screwed over. Arsenal made Fabregas serve out his time before letting him go to Barca, we can do the same.
Strange that a few months ago I said Madrid should go after Suarez lol. Good thing LFC have sturridge now.
ReplyDeleteTill now, I am not convinced by our transfer business... Maybe this Aspas guy will be a good striker but i never even heard of him before...
ReplyDeleteI think we will buy another defender, hopefully papa or alderweird...
I so want Eriksen xD. Fingers crossed...
If Benzema is willing to come to LFC, he will be more than a good replacement for LS. I can't see it happening though because we offer no Champion's League footy for him, and probably other top names available this summer as well. Be top 4 in the league must be the top priority for LFC in the coming season. else we will see ourselves drifting further and further away from the elites in the league and Europe as years goes by.
ReplyDeleteIf we get 40mil for Suarez alone...plus 20mil kitty and money from other sales..we can go after quality players and bolster the squad. Although painful, I'd sell Suarez off if it means we can get a couple of quality players that progress the team to the next level. Think about it!
ReplyDeleteIt's sad how people who claim to be Liverpool supporters put their own ego above the good of the club isn't it? They might as well say they're Everton supporters, they love the club just as much.
ReplyDeleteIf he does go who can blame him? CL football, better weather, not having to put up with a racist FA, supporters that actually support the club they pretend to support. If he goes he goes. We'll make good money on him and are bound to get in good players to replace him. The club should set a deadline here though. Either a deal is wrapped up for the money they want before 1 July, or he stays. And I feel the bidding should start at 50 million pounds. I don't see why he should cost any less than lesser players like Torres.
ReplyDeleteI have been one of the denial afflicted fans, but I strongly believe Suarez WANTS to leave. It's his career and decision and I won't begrudge him that. Real should just pay a bucket load of money and we will definitely replace him. No player is bigger than LFC!
ReplyDeletelast year he cost about 5-9m yet hes rated at over 25m ... i wouldnt go for him now
ReplyDeletethey are very few players in the world good enough to fill suarezs boots and the chances of lfc being able to attract one are little to none if he goes i for one will truely miss him and i think the knock on effect will seriuosly damage lfcs chances of attractting top class players for years
ReplyDeletebayern was always a nonsense rumor. i said that to often, they absolutely arent interessted in Suarez. In addition i always mentioned that if someone bids for suarez its going to be Real or Atletico... anywhere in spain...
ReplyDeleteNow it seems almost certain hes on his way to real. and to be honest he fits there perfectly.
the language, style of football, CL football a player of his calibre absolutely wants...
I just hope we can sell him for a good load of money, bids should start at 50m me thinks..
But what if he actually wants to go? If he is forced to stay I don't think he would perform that well, and there's no use for him on the bench. Same as Carroll, we wan't a decent fee for him, but if no offers come or he rejects them he's just sitting in the stands all season.
ReplyDeleteIf you look at things overall, we can see the potential exits of Reina, Skrtel, Coates, Suarez and Carroll. You can add Pacheco, Spearing and even Hendo to that list. Assaidi too. I wouldn't think Downing is safe, Hendo and Johnson are on big wages which the club would gladly get rid of...
This transfer period could ultimately make or break us in terms of seriously competing in European competitions ever again...Just my thoughts.
I believe there is no such thing as precedence regarding football transfers - Because most people would just link back to Carroll and say he cost 35m, so player X must cost the same/more/less. Torres jumped ship, Fabregas left in a civil manner, I'm not sure how Suarez will go about it, but linking back to other transfers in the past just doesn't work.
ReplyDeleteif he wants to go thats fine but imo the board are touting all our players they want the big earners of the books thing is the newcomers will want big wages if they get any good so they will be sold two ,once gerrard retires it will be the end of an era imo i would keep hendo and pepe the rest can go,this could be our waterloo season and i think it will end in failure
ReplyDeletecelta vigo striker is coming on 7.7m.....replacement been done.....bye bye luis cannibal
ReplyDeleteIf he leaves, it won't be his goals that we'll mis most. It'll be the threat he represents. When you get Suarez and Coutinho running at you knowing that Sturridge is there to finish it off, you tend to get nervous. So Higuain or Benzema, for me, would not be a solution for what we'd lose.If anyone, I'd think di Maria or Özil would be the ones we would need as a makeweight. That said, I don't think too many Real players would be jumping up and down to join us in any deal except for Xabi.
ReplyDeletenow he is rubbish, jamie what about a 25m bid for welbeck him and sturridge have a partnership , i know you also like jovetic im suprised you did not let him leave.
ReplyDeleteand jamie after all the loyalty we have shown him , he leaves at the first oppertuanity , idiot the canibal
ReplyDeleteWelbeck? Definitely not. His goalscoring record is abysmal. Plus, he's a Manc.
ReplyDeleteno he is our 3d striker
ReplyDeletewe need a better replacement not some spanish version of shane long
ReplyDeletewat about jovetic seems the most natural replacement , has skill , can score goals and is like daglish .
ReplyDeleteremember people say suarez is like keegan , so keegan for daglish second time
Andy Carroll will pick up the slack! :D
ReplyDeleteJamie, real madrid are ruining the prem and lfc, ronaldo,alonso,modric and now the leuges two best players , the weaker th leuge gets the weaker the teams in the leuge get #fact. and 0of cource they have taken owen,mcmannman and alonso all of whom were our most improtant or 2nd when they left , next year they will be after coutinho
ReplyDeletecarroll , he can't even run , we might as well then change the name of anfield to home of rubbish.
ReplyDeletecarroll to replace suarez , reina/heskey will probablly be a better replacement , 6 goals in 18 months disgusting for a striker. if carroll replcaces suarez i will never watch lfc again
BREAKING NEWS!!!
ReplyDeleteSee Sky Sports??
Suarez's agent tells Sky Sports that Suarez is is happy at Liverpool and is not going anywhere.
Denial eh??
Put that in your pipe and smoke it!!!
I can't figure out if you are really this naive, or just so lost in denial you can't see the wood for the trees.
ReplyDeleteHis Agent's comment mean nothing. Wake up! it's damage control once again, and it's Agent practice 101 to issue such a statement.
You want to believe it's true because you are a fan of Suarez. You're not being objective and looking at everything in context. Irrespective of Suarez's Agent, he still made those comments about Madrid, and he's made countless similar comments in the past.
After our soldier being butchered in the street innocent muslims are being attacked and blamed which is exactly what the extremists want of course. If we should attack anyone it should be the 2 evil scums that did it .considering Sow has stated he is muslim i very much doubt he will come to England at the mo.
ReplyDeleteHis agent has said he's staying and is happy at Liverpool...
ReplyDeleteSuarez's agent has announced he's staying..So we don't need a replacement for him
ReplyDeleteSuarez for Modric and Di Maria sounds more acceptable!
ReplyDeleteThis is fucking football. Keep religion out of it,
ReplyDeleteSUAREZ AGREES REAL MADRID DEAL.... is this true???? 4 year deal agreed??
ReplyDeleteonly swap with higuan & modric
ReplyDeleteSow is a scrub, at 15 mill it's a tragedy/
ReplyDeletecomplete nonsense. England is still one of if not the most tolerant country in the world to people of all faiths. Just cause a few from either side are mental, doesn`t mean the whole country is. I really doubt he would not come on that basis as every other country in europe is less tolerant, thus are you saying he wont play football in europe full stop? Religion has nothing to do with this.
ReplyDeletespot on
ReplyDeletehow does it look like that? both pepe and suarez came out and said they were looking at moves. That aint FSG, thats the players. Your hatred for anything FSG is blinding you from logic. I`m sure there is a way to twist it so when a player says he wants to go, it is something how FSG touting him but for the life of me i cant work out how? Explain please.
ReplyDeleteI honestly think Suarez dont care about anyone other than himself. If he wants to leave he will do everything he can to lower his value. As a player he is one of the best in the world, but if you look at him as a person, you see time and time again where he puts himself before everything.
ReplyDeleteWe got him cheaper from Ajax cause he bite someone, we will sell him cheaper cause he bite someone too. He has already come out with a come and get me plea to Real, which is shockingly embarrasing for the club. The club will of course grant his wished for fear of losing all face if they say no, as I think he would then start saying all sorts to force the move.
I strongly doubt Liverpool FC is anything other than a pay check to him, and any talk of love is purely to play the game.
Will I miss him, yes as he is a great footballer but there will be a big part of me which is glad he is gone. The man lacks any form of respect, treats the club who pay him shockingly, cheats and acts aggressive in games to the point he gets banned, more than once thus making the club suffer.
I`m 99% sure in my mind he only bite Ivan to force a move, which backfired as once again the club dropped to there knees before him and basically said its all fine. There has to come a point where the club stands up and says , no more.
Sorry but just got to say....You seem to be almost pleased that he is going but this is not my point...Rogers is the manager and I know he knows what is happening with Luis. The mistake last season was not Rogers but the club, mainly the owners. Rogers is a young manager learning how to deal with a Big Club! Even Mr.Fergusion had to do that!
ReplyDeleteIf Luis goes it will be a terrible shame...We the fans and the club have stood by him. It s ok to say the British media have made it hard on him and do not get me wrong they certainly do (worst gutter press in the world) but Luis has brought alot of this on himself.
All I hope, is that there is still some loyalty around. The big clubs will still be there this time next year, Luis has and will continue to play with high quality! One more season to be part of Rogers revolution and see if we can not get back into the CL. Then like I said, he can then go to one of the bigger boys, if you can call them late..:)
I do agree with you here. Other transfers mean nothing. The fee changes per deal. How much he forces his way out of the club, how many times he speaks to journos telling them how much he hates liverpool and england, how much real want to pay, and lastly how much we want.
ReplyDeleteI put us last as due to a few things we are bent over on this one. There is no point keeping a player who doesnt want to be here, and we are rich enough to say go stay in the resereves then like city did to Tevez. We will have to take whatever is offered and other clubs know that. Add to that everyone seems to think he has a 40mil clause in his contract. Tops is 40mil deal.
I would prefer it if he said nothing at all. Grant Ronaldos price stayed high, but most cases it drops. Ronaldo is very much a one off.
ReplyDeleteFrom most reports by people in the spanish press who get most stuff right, he has told people he hates liverpool and england.
I have no problem with him being honest if it didnt affect how much we get for him, but it clearly will. We have seen this at Liverpool loads over the last 10 years.
The point I think you are missing is thinking i`m speaking from a emotional point of view, when im not. It`s purely from a logical cash flow point of view.
So I ask you would you prefer we get say 10mil less for him but he is "honest" and forces the move in public, or get 10mil more for him and he says his peice after the deal has gone through? thus not reducing how much we get.
3 for 1 i would say that's a well done deal
ReplyDeleteyou wish :)
ReplyDeleteI agree with most of what you said apart from him biting IVANOVIC to force a move.I just think he has that South American temper and win at all cost attitude.He went to far on a football field as he's done before.When he moves to REAL MADRID he'll do something similar and nobody will say he's forcing a move.
ReplyDeleteWe also don't have to sell cheap because he bit someone.The rumoured 40m buyout clause will be the figure any lower and we seriously need to hire new people to negotiate our deals.
IAN AYRE has already done a sh3t deal agreeing to such a affordable buyout clause.Most other clauses are set at a ridiculous fee and most are never activated this will be and we'll only have ourselves to blame.
fingers crossed that is what is happening. My worry is the club might view Aspa as his replacement, which he aint. Aspa is a good player but by no means should he be a direct replacement
ReplyDeletegranted my views on his bite are somewhat based on a distrust of him, but its not the first time he has done something like this then got sold off. Could just be by chance.
ReplyDeleteI can only guess the only reason the buyout is at 40mil is that was the only way he would sign a new deal before. Which leads me to think he was already looking at ways out if needed.
It all comes down to negotiating.If you put a LEVY in that situation he would've got him to sign with a stupid buyout clause in the new contract too.
ReplyDeleteIAN AYRE is soft and I think SUAREZ and his people took advantage.
It would say a lot about FSG's ambition if that was the case!
ReplyDeleteI do agree that Ayre isnt that good at the deals. I still cant work out why he didnt stay in the commercial role he was in.
ReplyDeletethese are my thoughts which i have stated on here too, although I think you got my point over better.
ReplyDeleteIf he does move to Real Adam, do you think the spanish press will be any kinder? I get that wont hate on him for his diving (which he has cut out a lot now) as the spanish league is full of that and deemed normal, but The press in Madrid are as bad as in England. Mourinho got loads of bad press dispite winning them the league one year. Unless he wants to drop down to lower level football in a less devloped country I can`t see anyones press writing nice stuff about you if you bite someone, or whatever else he may do. He can`t be that stupid to think in spain they like that sort of thing?
ReplyDeleteThere is the middle ground between ur view, and my view which is he is in denial about reality, therefore he feels the press really do hound him unfairly, and he really is the innocent victim in all this. Then he isnt lieing when he says thats his reasons, nor is it the truth.
The point is you stupid fuck he won't come to us because of his religion, he said that himself not me so wake up you fool . If he comes to us ill give you £1000000
ReplyDeleteIs their a video link where luis has been filmed apparently saying these words? if not do not believe real madrid and zidanes not very obvious media plant rumours. if you have heard it from his mouth via a video, then believe it.
ReplyDeleteAgree with your point that England is 1 of if not the most tolerant countries but can you just tell me how many Muslim players play in the premier league at the mo ? And to top it off your making it sound like I don't want him to come because he is Muslim when I don't care what religion or colour he is and would love to see him come if he's good , I'm just saying that he said himself he rejected us in the past mainly because of his religious views so surely that's him bringing religion into it which I'm just pointing out ???
ReplyDeletei didnt mean to make it look like you didnt want him to come, that wasnt my idea so sorry if it came over that way.
ReplyDeleteI honestly dont have a clue how many are playing in the prem, in the same way i dont have a clue how many christians play in the prem. I`m sure there is more than we think. I know Toure is Muslim and he played and will countiue to play in the prem and doesn`t appear to have a issue with it. Assaidi is as well, so thats two from our squad and I would guess there are a few more in the Liverpool team, let alone in the whole prem. Most people just don`t mention what religon they are as it has no relevance to the game, and as a fan i don`t care so never look into it.
I just can`t see why the fact he is a Muslim would put him off? I would imagine it doesn`t even come into it.
I might be missing something here, but I cant see any evidence to suggest what your relgious beliefs are has any effect over where you play football.
profit profit profit if you do not show ambition why would your top players want to stay
ReplyDeleteBut Jason where is the profit? I dont know how many times we have been over this, we make a loss each year. You can actually look it up yourself. FSG make zero money, and LFC makes a loss. Being you often say they are making money out of us and taking money out aka profit, do you then think the offical accounts are a lie? I`m not trying to take the piss, im just honestly trying to work out when the club makes a loss year on year for last two years, you can come to the answer there taking profit. I might have missed /overlooked something.
ReplyDeleteLook, you're right about most of that, I probably have just been taking a contrary view to what some people are saying. I guess I feel for the guy a bit, for whatever reason. I believe what he says about being unhappy. Plenty of folks don't, it's entirely up to each of us to decide for ourselves.
ReplyDeleteAs for the price ... I think it's up to the club, not Luis. We don't have to sell him, not if we don't want to. We can insist that he stay and he WILL play well for us under those circumstances. Has he already been hounded by the press this year? Has it affected his football? Not at all, so we could keep him and he'll still give 100% on the pitch. That means we're not in a no-win situation. We don't have to sell and for that reason Real have no reason to think they can get a knock down price. That's my take on it, of course I could be wrong, I don't know the first thing about how football transfers happen in real life.
But one thing I want to say again because I think people don't quite see this ... just because Luis is the cause of his own misery doesn't mean that he's not miserable. We've all done stupid things and suffered because of it, it doesn't mean that the consequences are less because we can say it's our own fault. I'm not making an argument to say that it's "OK" for him to leave or that he's justified or that he's without blame. I just don't think that's entirely relevant. Whatever happened in the past, the reality is what he feels right now. If he's kicked around in the press then that's just the truth of it. If that makes him unhappy then that's the truth of it. Would it really be different if he wasn't the cause of his own issues? We can blame him and say it's his fault, but when the deed is already done, what purpose does that really serve?
You make good points. I actually responded in almost the opposite way to Torres leaving, although the end result was the same. If the player wants to go, whatever the reason, it's often best to let him go. With Torres I saw simply that he was making himself miserable. He couldn't even blame the press. He didn't like playing for Liverpool because of football reason but it was all bogus. He went to Chelsea and nothing changed. His form totally dropped away and he became a shadow of his former self. For me it was Torres causing his own misery. He wasn't happy to simply be on the pitch for 90 minutes, playing in a big league with a good team in front of great fans. The talk about trophies and CL is relevant to a point, but after a while I just wonder what is wrong with these guys. They are so ambitious that they can't see the simple joy in being professional footballers at the top of their game. Things they and we dreamed of as kids are not enough. They have to win things, be in the CL, be winning titles ... look at all it did for Torres. He got his CL medal but did he feel good about it? I very much doubt it. Now he's virtually a reject with no clear future, declaring that he wants to stay at Chelsea and fight for his worth. You could never have dreamed of such a scenario when he was playing so well for Liverpool.
ReplyDeleteSo yeah, I can flip flop on these things and it's a personal reaction in the moment. In this instance I'm defending Luis a bit but I can see the truth in what you're saying. To be so affected by the press, knowing you were the engineer of your own publicity is incredibly childish and the guy needs to grow up. He needs to stop buying newspapers, he simply needs to stop caring. He needs to be an adult and realise that he is the only one who can influence his life consistently and no amount of blaming someone else will change that.
I guess my stance remains though that I do believe what he says, I don't think he's just making it up. I think if he simply wanted to play CL football and be in Madrid he would say so. Is it really a worse story? I don't think he needs to play the victim in order to engineer a move away from the club, I think if he wants to go he can just go. Real come knocking and big players leave, it happens all the time and LFC is not immune to that. I don't see the motivation for him to make this stuff up and I see why a person like him would be so affected by negative comment. But honestly, it is entirely speculation. Interesting, but I have nothing to truly back it up.
Poor JK he'll be very disappointed suarez not going :), A pathetic website this is.
ReplyDeleteIn reply to the bit about players being unhappy, I think that is the curse of anyone ambitous. You simply will never be happy. By its very nature you cant be content, therefore when you acheive said goal (be that money wise or medal wise) you will desire the next thing. That isn`t just in football but in life for everyone. Footballers are people and so will be effected just like me or you. One mans dream is anothers bad day kinda of thing.
ReplyDeleteI strongly think that being born simple is better than being clever. You never see a simple person unhappy, yet clever people are the ones who suffer depression the most. Again football and life crosses over here.
Now in regards to Suarez, I have no problems with the player,(or didnt). He is clearly a great asset to any team, however he needs to learn when to speak and when not too. Right now all he is doing is making me dislike him and im sure many other fans feel the same. Suarez could have left for real and be remembered as a legend, however if he keeps on opening his mouth as he is, some will remember him as a legend and many will rarely speak his name again.
Like you said, if Real come knocking players go, so why does he even have to say anything in public? He could phone real rather than tell the papers. There just isnt any need for him to let journos into the deal.
Have the press treated him badly? in many ways yes. His crimes are pretty small, and the treatment he has got has borderlined on what child killers get. In that sense it is crazy, however everyone famous has to put up with this, and he hasnt helped himself. If he wanted he could have, yet he didnt. Once you start biting people, using rasict terms, pulling hair etc you have to man up and take the stick. Its kinda like the kid at school who loves taking the mick out of people but crys when you do it back.
Many players have left Liverpool, and many great players, yet the ones remembered as greats are the ones who left the "correct" way.
alsono = great
Owen = who is he?
You see my point.