Liverpool legend Jamie Carragher will pull on the Red shirt for the final time today, and it's sure to be a special occasion at Anfield as the fans say goodbye to one of club's greatest servants. It's a momentous day, yet club captain Steven Gerrard will not be on the field to share Carra's final game, and in my view, this is a massive kick in the teeth for long-serving defender.
Last week, Gerrard revealed his 'disappointment' at not being able to take part in Carra's last ever game for the club, but given the importance of the occasion, why did Gerrard allow this to happen?
When asked about the surgery on the 25th April, Reds boss Brendan Rodgers suggested that it wasn't an immediate priority. He told Reporters:
"There's nothing in that at all, really. You'll have noticed over the last year or so, whether he's been playing for Liverpool or England, he's had some taping and strapping on his shoulder - but there is no immediate surgery planned"
Rodgers' response was hardly surprising - at that time, Liverpool still had a chance of qualifying for Europe, so the club continued to use Gerrard irrespective of his shoulder injury.
Fast-forward twelve days: the club is out of European contention, and all of a sudden, Gerrard's shoulder surgery suddenly becomes a medical priority to the extent that he has to miss the rest of the season.
Give me a break. What about Carra's final game? Is that not as important as qualifying for Europe? Gerrard - and LFC - should've delayed the surgery until AFTER the game, and with the greatest respect to the club, I just do not believe that the issue is so medically urgent that Gerrard had to miss the final two games of the season.
Rodgers has repeatedly utilised players with injuries this season (Joe Allen, for example), and Gerrard has played 36 Premier League games - 35 of them for every minute - yet he suddenly can't handle the last two games?
In my view, the captain should've moved heaven and earth to ensure that he could play in Carra's final game. And let's not forget, this is Steven Gerrard we're talking about; he wields immense power at Anfield, and if he really wanted to play in the game, he could make it happen.
Gerrard didn't even need to start the last two games; he could've missed the Everton game and then played against QPR, perhaps even coming on as a sub.
Ask yourself this question: if Liverpool were still in with a chance of qualifying for the Champions League with two games to go and/or the club had a cup final on the horizon, do you really think Gerrard would've been withdrawn for the rest of the season, especially with Luis Suarez also out?
No chance. Gerrard would've battled on, and the club would've been happy for him to do so.
You know it's true.
What possible difference would it have made to delay the surgery until after the season ended, which incidentally, was the original plan?
This may be an unpopular view, but I doubt I'm the only one who's thought about this.
Carra's final match is a massively important occasion. It only happens once, and I'm sure in years to come, Gerrard will regret not playing in the game.
Jaimie Kanwar
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Last week, Gerrard revealed his 'disappointment' at not being able to take part in Carra's last ever game for the club, but given the importance of the occasion, why did Gerrard allow this to happen?
When asked about the surgery on the 25th April, Reds boss Brendan Rodgers suggested that it wasn't an immediate priority. He told Reporters:
"There's nothing in that at all, really. You'll have noticed over the last year or so, whether he's been playing for Liverpool or England, he's had some taping and strapping on his shoulder - but there is no immediate surgery planned"
Rodgers' response was hardly surprising - at that time, Liverpool still had a chance of qualifying for Europe, so the club continued to use Gerrard irrespective of his shoulder injury.
Fast-forward twelve days: the club is out of European contention, and all of a sudden, Gerrard's shoulder surgery suddenly becomes a medical priority to the extent that he has to miss the rest of the season.
Give me a break. What about Carra's final game? Is that not as important as qualifying for Europe? Gerrard - and LFC - should've delayed the surgery until AFTER the game, and with the greatest respect to the club, I just do not believe that the issue is so medically urgent that Gerrard had to miss the final two games of the season.
Rodgers has repeatedly utilised players with injuries this season (Joe Allen, for example), and Gerrard has played 36 Premier League games - 35 of them for every minute - yet he suddenly can't handle the last two games?
In my view, the captain should've moved heaven and earth to ensure that he could play in Carra's final game. And let's not forget, this is Steven Gerrard we're talking about; he wields immense power at Anfield, and if he really wanted to play in the game, he could make it happen.
Gerrard didn't even need to start the last two games; he could've missed the Everton game and then played against QPR, perhaps even coming on as a sub.
Ask yourself this question: if Liverpool were still in with a chance of qualifying for the Champions League with two games to go and/or the club had a cup final on the horizon, do you really think Gerrard would've been withdrawn for the rest of the season, especially with Luis Suarez also out?
No chance. Gerrard would've battled on, and the club would've been happy for him to do so.
You know it's true.
What possible difference would it have made to delay the surgery until after the season ended, which incidentally, was the original plan?
This may be an unpopular view, but I doubt I'm the only one who's thought about this.
Carra's final match is a massively important occasion. It only happens once, and I'm sure in years to come, Gerrard will regret not playing in the game.
Jaimie Kanwar
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Ha, I was thinking along similar lines the other day. The 'media' have mentioned it was brought forward to ensure he's ready for pre season. Righto, even if he missed a pointless game or two in early july (thereby handing a few youngsters the opportunity to play) it wouldnt make any difference to his fitness/sharpness whatsoever come the start of the season.
ReplyDeleteI know I'd make my mates last hurrah. Especially if it was Carragher.....
jaimie it would have been nice to have gerrard on the pitch as well but surly being fit for next seaon is more important
ReplyDeleteanyway goodbye jaimie carragher a true lfc legend ynwa
also lets not forget the bitters over the park also saying goodbye to ,two members of staff
1stly neville neville of the famous rat boy neville brothers
and lastly to david(i won f"ck all)moyes you did us proud
even the most bitter blue that today only jaimie carragher will be remembered as the pride of mersyside
Dr Kanwar I presume
ReplyDeleteWhen did you get your doctors degree ;-) but nah we done it at the right time so he can be fully fit for pre season.
ReplyDeleteThat's just rationalising. If the surgery is so urgent, why has he not had it yet? It's 12 day since the announcement, and please address this point: If LFC still had something to play for this season, would Gerrard miss the final two games?
ReplyDeleteHey Jaimie. I've been on your site for a while now and I've noticed that for some reason you don't seem to appreciate Gerrard as much as most of other LFC fans. Don't get me wrong, not trying to be nasty, just something I've noticed. I'd lke to know why is it so? Is it football reasons?? Personal?? Do you know things about him that we don't??
ReplyDeleteSimply curious
Okay. Please post links to five posts over the last year that prove I don't 'appreciate' Gerrard. With respect, that's nonsense. Just because I'm occasionally critical of him doesn't mean I don't appreciate him.
ReplyDeleteCarra loves the club not his own ego, I am sure he is far happier seeing Gerrard getting ready to be fit for pre-season, as supposed to playing in his final match, which to a consumate professional like Carra is just another match.
ReplyDeleteI think you under-estimate the importance of pre-season for ageing players, they need the right conditioning, before a season.
I don't get your point. LFC's original plan was to have Gerrard's surgery when the season ended (as confirmed by Rodgers in a press conference last month), so they'd already allowed for pre-season recovery etc.
ReplyDeleteIt's 12 days since the surgery announcement, and Gerrard hasn't had the operation yet. If it's so urgent, why not?
I think your point about it being only 12 days since the announcement and Gerrard not having had the surgery yet is pretty dumb. For a sports injury they will be taking into account things like swelling, and the state of the injury before they operate. I have more faith in LFC's medical team than I have on your opinion on the matter Jamie!
ReplyDeleteYes, but that would've also been the case *after* the season ended, so what's your point?
ReplyDeleteOnce again, you only understand what you feel like understanding. I said you don't appreciate him AS MUCH as others. That's completely different to simply "don't appreciate"
ReplyDeletelet guess will carra crying later? just as beck did
ReplyDeleteSo, because I don't have the same views on Gerrard 'as most other LFC fans' it means I don't appreciate him? Sorry, but I'm not like most other fans; I have my own take on things, and if that means I'm perceived as not appreciating Gerrard 'as much' as others, then so be it.
ReplyDeleteThe announcement was made before we knew that we were finishing 7th. If we still had places to fight for it would be worth Gerrard playing through the pain and perhaps not being fully ready for pre-season.
ReplyDeleteIf it's a sports injury they will want him rested for an extended period of time before they operate, there will be inflammation that will need to subside before they can operate.
You are also beginning to sound like a conspiracy theorist ;) Why would Liverpool pull Gerrard three games early if there wasn't a good reason?
Is it because he secretly hates Jamie, and doesn't want to be on the pitch for his final game?
Of course a meanngless game is much more important than our Captain being ready for next season minus Suarez. They are long time very close friends, got nothing better to do !.
ReplyDeleteTo be honest it will no doubt be a club decision also to ensure their assett gets the treatment they require at the right time. Imagine if he did play and agrevated the injury? No doubt it was about timing and monitoring the injury in relation to the importance of the competition in front of you. As we are at the end of the season with nothing to play for, it was probably best to get the injury sorted as their is no benefit in risking an injured player no matter the injury. I agree that if we were in the CL final, he would delay that operation but this would be an agreement at club level as they and gerrard would no doubt take the injury at risk for the possible benefits gained. I have no problem with gerrard missing this game as long as it is in the best interests of the club and player for next year. to be fair, at least carra will be the captain for today!!!!
ReplyDeleteWhat matters most, being on the field for a meaningless game or fit for next season? Sure it would be nice him playing in Carras last match but the club comes first. I bet Carra would see it that way....no he'd demand that.
ReplyDeleteIf someone is special at LFC Jamie has a go, It is sure to bring replies, oops.
ReplyDeletei think he may shed a tear or two the emotion of the day may well catch up with him ,who cares if he cries or not i,am sure he will feel the emotion inside,i know i will be quite emotional come the end
ReplyDeleteFor exemple, you've often called him selfish, said he should'nt be our captain, etc etc. No other LFC fan says that kind of stuff, and imo it's much more than simply "not having the same views".
ReplyDeleteThat there is less of a chance of him not recovering in time for pre-season, if they operate as early as feasible Operations really stress the body, even keyhole surgery Gerrard has a history of infections. It makes perfect sense to be super cautious with an ageing player with the medical history of Steven Gerrard.
ReplyDeleteMaybe Gerrard's shoulder was so bad that "if you touched it with your thumb you could break it" so surgery was required ASAP??
ReplyDeleteThey will play together again in some sort of testimonial, isn't Gerrard having one soon? But I agree, I'm surprised Gerrard took up the option, that's if he had one. Don't think Carra would have said anything though, typical of his professional character.
would it not be great today if the team came out numbered 1to 11,and all had carragher,s name on the back then we really could have a team of carraghers
ReplyDeleteim just curious are you running out of ideas for blogs ?
ReplyDeletewith luis suarez out of the spotlight and brendan winning games theres not much to write about.
Gerrard has had his surgery ! So no he couldn't have played today ! Also I'm sure carra isn't that bothered ! So why write another crap article ?
ReplyDeleteDude!
ReplyDeleteDon't say I just don't get it, I do, you don't.
They are being cautious and not wanting to aggravate an injury that is usually manageable, but in this case it is not as they are operating.
I know that Gerrard's injury will have swelling that needs to come down because it will be an AC joint injury, and they have swelling that will need to come down *FACT*.
If Gerrard played until the end of the season, he would probably be fit for pre-season, but would you want to gamble with Stevie G's injury and recovery record.
It's hardly an exact science, they will only be operating if they have no other alternative, the last thing they will want to do is operate. They are being sensibly cautious.
Why else would LFC have ended his season?
yes but having even more time clearly would be beneficial. You are obviously right about them postponing it if we had important games. But it is just priorities. The club decided to prioritise the extended rest over him playing this match. why cant you accept what the trained professionals have decided?
ReplyDeleteI think carragher is the ultimate professional and is lfc through and through, if you asked him if he wanted gerrard to play in his last game but it might mean he misses some of liverpools pre-season games what do you think his response would be ?
ReplyDeleteHim and gerrard are hewn from the same liver bird shaped tree and are lifelong mates do you really think that carra's upset?? What are you guys smoking ?? :-) :-) :-)
jaimie your just being silly. were finishing in 7th this season and rodgers wants to use this as a time to breed other youngsters. there was once upon a time a young lad called stevie g was given his chance. now, seing as there is not too much importance left for the season, rodgers will use this to breed other youngsters in similar fashion
ReplyDeletesorry m8 rodgers did not give the yougsters game time against fulham so i cannot see much change today he will want to end the season on a high and will not risk it unless injuries dictate it
ReplyDeleteOn the day of the announcement Gerrard had the surgery performed then Liverpool's excuse would hold water, but he still has not had the surgery, so, it's b***sh*t, and another example of Liverpool's dishonesty! sad to say.
ReplyDeleteI can remember a time when anything of concern involving the club was kept "in house" and any announcements made by the club was believable, nowadays i doubt what they say.
ReplyDeletethis subject is truly ludicrous. Gerrard is a professionist Who need to take care of along term shoulder injury in order to be fit for the start of pre-season. Gerro is 33 yrs and He needs more time to recover. Get a life Jamie.
ReplyDeleteHe's probs more mobile than Andy, I would allow that much.
ReplyDeleteDocker's don't cry.
ReplyDeleteWhy can't you accept that I can have whatever opinion I like? I don't have to 'accept' what the 'trained professional' decide. I take it you agree with absolutely everything that Rodgers et al say, right? Of course not, so don't expect me to.
ReplyDeleteI think you need a holiday.
ReplyDeleteso wat about shelvey? coates, wisdom, coady. they all managed to play and we still won the game. bare in mind as well were playing the worst team in the league without their star players (taarabt, remy, wright-phillips and cesar). with sturridge and coutinho on form surely with some youngsters on the field and at anfield we'll still get the win
ReplyDeleteJamie I would be far more likely to give your opinion some thought, if you could provide me with a motive?
ReplyDeleteWhy would LFC pull him three games early, unless they were acting on sound medical advice?
Without an answer to this question you become like a 9/11 conspiracy theorist; loads of circumstantial evidence but no motive.
The answer to your question "What about Carra's final game? Is that not as important as qualifying for Europe?" is 100% beyond any shadow of a doubt NO... Today is a sentimental day and I'm sure one which Gerrard will regret having missed but as soon as we failed to qualify this year... next years qualification became priority no. 1... There is also the danger ( which you have failed to consider ) of making the injury worse a risk which the decided is not worth taking without European qualification.
ReplyDeleteGerrard is not getting any younger so any thing which may give him a fitness edge for next season HAS to be a positive thing.
When reading this you get a sense that you are suggesting some kind of strange conspiracy theory whereas to everybody else it's all very straight-forward.
C'mon Jamie it makes sense ( as does keeping Suarez by the way )
lol :)
ReplyDeleteof course you are welcome to whatever opinion you like, but i thought the whole point of this site was to debate, and "disagreement is enthusiastically encouraged"? which means i dont have to accept your opinion if i can come up with a reasoned argument.
ReplyDeleteI agree with your sentiment on the matter, but my argument is that i would be inclined to trust the medical experts on what they think is best, even if it seems to take some gloss of an emotional event today.
There's no need for us to be acting like a bunch of drama queens.I'm sure CARRA's main concern is keeping a clean sheet and winning in his final game not who's going to be on the field with him.If he was moaning about GERRARD not playing it would be a talking point but he's too professional for that so calm down!
ReplyDeleteI'm sure Carra will cope.
ReplyDeleteSorry dude, but you've written: "breed other youngsters"- That's one image i'm not going to be getting out of my head for a bit, BR breeding youngsters. Horrible...BR breeding is enough to put any one off their Sunday lunch
ReplyDeletethey played bit parts i still do not know why wisdom was taken off
ReplyDeleteJK are you ok? I have detected a narcissistic trend in your articles recently. JK I have been following your site as a avid LFC fan for several years now & it IS the BEST. Cuts through the bullshit! Says it like it is. Well done. As I said though I have noticed a narcissistic view point in some of the posts. This post will probably be deleted by you - evidence of your narcissism!
ReplyDeletethey all do they just do not show it
ReplyDeleteI don't Carra would want Gerrard to play if theres a chance he may be injured an be at risk for next year.
ReplyDeleteNarcissist - see what i mean....
ReplyDeletehe was trying out three at the back wisdom coates and carragher. At half time BR wanted to open the game up so reverted to four at the back, and you could see how many more chances we created. (could also have been from fulham playing less defensively)
ReplyDeleteThis actually reads like an article out of the 'Red Top' rags. Cant find a decent story so create something outta nothing.....NOBODY is bigger than the club. NO PLAYER, NO MANAGER, NO OWNER - They will come and go, LFC will be ours till we die.....
ReplyDeleteAnybody notice JK comments dont get any **Vote Up** beside them!!! Says it all....
ReplyDeleteAh yes, my life is defined by the number of 'up' votes my comments get...
ReplyDeleteHaha Gabzz had you by the balls today....so much so you even went the petty route of a shit blogger and deleted his arguments as to why your a fucking useless blogger.
ReplyDeleteGive it up mate your a joke.
to be truthful i watched the game but cannot remember much about it apart from sturridges hatrick thats the thing when we have nothing to play for the interest wains but saying that i,am really looking forward to todays game
ReplyDeleteWhat has our exchange got to do with the comment policy on the site?! Who said you have to accept my opinion? You gave your view, I gave mine in return. I didn't say you should 'accept' my view - you said that I should just accept what the club say, and I said I don't have to do that.
ReplyDeleteJaimie, don't mean to get your back up - still top site/articles BUT
ReplyDeletelike myself you have a tendency to get VERY defensive when a different
point of view is put forward? Hard when your right 99% of the time and
frustrating when others just simply cannot see the 'Wood for the Trees'.
I believe you can see the Trees....
i bet red card will show to him...
ReplyDeletethat will be d most memorable match hahahaha
without mr.kiss of death today, carra will wear the armband
ReplyDeleteIt's about what's best for the team, not a sentimental moment for Carragher. JC himself would not have it any other way. The team and the club ALWAYS come first, without question. Of course Gerrard would play if there was a chance we could qualify for Europe and needed his presence. That's what would be best for the team. Now, when we have nothing play for and we want to have the best possible start to next season. Having the captain fit and with a solid pre-season under his belt is what's best for the team. Why would a decision on player availability ever be based on something else?
ReplyDeleteI think it's kind of odd that you express your own personal preference, disregarding what Gerrard, Carragher, Rodgers and the rest of LFC might want. I'm sure Gerrard thinks it's more important he gets fit for next season and I'd guess Carragher feels the same way. Do you really think JC would be happy to have the captain sacrifice his role in the team for next season in order to play in his last game? Is that who you think Carragher is? Someone who would put a sentimental moment in front of what's best for the club he's served for all these years? What you're suggesting instead is that, purely for YOUR own personal sentimentality, Gerrard put aside plans for surgery, disregard the impact that would have on the team for the future, risk further injury and take part in this game. Not, in fact, for Carragher, who would unquestionably insist otherwise, but for YOU. That's actually what you're saying.
lack of 'up' votes is a clear indictment that everybody is afraid of your comment policy JK - IF JK DOESN'T LIKE IT HE DELETES IT & BANS YOU. THE SHEEP ARE AFRAID MY FRIEND - POST DELETED :)
ReplyDeleteI agree, it's really odd that on an opinion-based site, I express my own personal opinion/interpretation of things. Clearly, I'm the only fan in the history of the game to do such a thing.
ReplyDeleteWell said Adam. You forget though that this is Jaimie's opinion-based site were if he expresses his opinion and you don't like his opinion/interpretation he will delete your comments. Simples.
ReplyDeletehttp://lfckopchat.wordpress.com/tag/jaimie-kanwar/
ReplyDeleteTraffic to this site down 30% since Feb 13!!! Google "jaimie kanwar liverpool" - whats going on people?
1. LYING ABOUT DONATING £500 TO HILLSBOROUGH CHARITIES – Irrespective of all the other factors, this has to be the absolute main reason why all Liverpool fans despise Jaimie Kanwar. The facts are that he bet £500 that Liverpool would finish in the top four at the end of the 2010-11 season, with the proceeds going to a Hillsborough charity. Jaimie subsequently lost the bet, but then frantically tried to delete all references to it that he had made on his own website and produced lie after lie after lie to deny the bet and avoid paying up. Unfortunately for him, all the evidence had been saved and is well-documented on this site here. Personally, I find it absolutely sickening that anybody can behave in that way towards the families of 96 innocent fans who died on the terraces, and who are still bravely battling for justice and desperate for donations to maintain that fight. Jaimie, for his part, chooses to accuse this website of ‘exploiting the Hillsborough disaster to further an obsessed personal vendetta’.
ReplyDelete2. POISONOUS ATTACKS AGAINST ‘SPIRIT OF SHANKLY’ – The ‘Spirit of Shankly’ fans group was set up in 2008 to solidify protests against the ruinous reign of Liverpool’s owners Tom Hicks and George Gillett. Because Jaimie Kanwar was an (un)official mouthpiece for the American duo – defending the mounting debts they piled onto the club at every turn – this new organisation came into his crosshairs in a major way. A series of hateful editorials appeared on his site branding Spirit of Shankly as variously: xenophobic, unprofessional, undignified, irrational, classless, agenda-driven extremists. When SoS attempted to arrange a face-to-face discussion with Jaimie Kanwar to address his ongoing campaign of vitriol against them, he declined to attend a meeting in Liverpool as he deemed it was ‘not a neutral venue’.
ReplyDelete3. DEFENDING TOM HICKS & GEORGE GILLETT – Was there a Liverpool fan anywhere in the world who thought Hicks and Gillett were a good thing for LFC as they piled millions and millions of pounds of debt onto the club and dragged it towards the brink of administration? Quite bizarrely there was and unsurprisingly his name was Jaimie Kanwar. While the Spirit of Shankly group worked tirelessly (and successfully) to force the pair out of Anfield, Jaimie continued to insist they were being unfairly treated and that the huge, undeniable financial problems were actually simply being overstated. Don’t ever try to get him to admit he was wrong though!
ReplyDeleteStop shit stirring. It was agreed they'd rather go out in a derby than a meaningless game.
ReplyDeleteCarra would be the first to say that no one player is bigger than the club, ultimately it doesn't matter that Stevie isn't playing in Carra's last match, why should it? It's a meaningless game with no relevance except for it being Carra's last match. Even Carra has said that he doesn't know exactly how he'll feel at the ed but there wont be any tears. Lets not get all sentimental, i'm sure Carra knows exactly how Stevie feels about him.
ReplyDeletemmmm. Wonder why Gerrard came onto the pitch wearing a sling?
ReplyDeleteGerrard was ill. Same illness that kept Skrtel out of the Fulham game apparently, and it meant that he couldn't have the surgery, but he's had it now.
ReplyDeleteLiverpool has always been about the club, not the individual. If there's a small chance that Stevie will be in better shape for next season, then it's worth it. Carra would have carried Gerrard to the doctors himself if he thought he was putting LFC in a worse situation by having Gerrard wait.
I really don't understand you Jamie. You seem to find a negative for every decision. If he had missed part of the next season, you'd be on here saying it was stupid him playing dead rubbers at the end of this season.
really jaimie you are such a drama queen ...its a pro sport not school
ReplyDeleteTestamonials should be left for just that. Carra is a legend, but i completely agree with Gerrard going for the op sooner than later. I`m sure Carra would say the same too. I also think this is just a non story, if it meant that much Gerrard would have played, its that simple.
ReplyDeleteOh I see, you're on the medical team...
ReplyDeleteSo Gerrard was wearing a sling just to pretend was he?
Unbelievable. Get some facts before posting.
I didn't say he wasn't injured, i agreed if it was bad enough to make him miss the last games of the season he should have had the surgery done right away, it still has not been done, why not? you tell me why! expert!!
ReplyDeletehe has played all season why not the last 2 games einstein?
ReplyDeletenot a problem, one game vs countless others they have played together in.
ReplyDeleteJust seen Gerrard interviewed on LFC tv, he said the surgery on the shoulder (which has been carried out) was a success!
ReplyDeletewhat a load of tosh - utter rubbish - LFC did right thing - Carras last game no big deal - there was nothing on it
ReplyDeleteHonestly I agree with you in a lot of aspects, but as somebody with a shoulder injury I do get where the team is coming from. They do get worse very quickly, mine went from bearable to unbearable in less than a week.
ReplyDeleteHowever, if I was in Gerrard's shoes I would have played through to the end of the season unless my doctor said I would do sever damage if I played.
I definitely would have done everything I could to play though.
He's had the surgery. And as I said before shoulder injuries escalate really quickly. I was told in March that I could hold out until June for surgery, and by mid-April I had to have prescription pain meds because it was so bad. Of course, that's without all the working out that Gerrard does, so it doesn't surprise me that much that they had to push it forward.
ReplyDeleteU sad little man kanwar or whatever your name is u little manc, boycott this page redmen
ReplyDeleteA typical JK article - bereft of everything.
ReplyDeleteusual non story from Jamie
ReplyDeleteI wished Jamie would put his name at the top of articles, that way id know not to waste my time reading it. Gerrad has a responsiblity to be fit, this was a PRemier League game with 3 points at stake, Carra can have his plaudits form Gerrard privately they are Pro's !
ReplyDeleteOf course you're not the only one who's thought about this JK. Just like you're not the only one who chooses not to think past negativity about a certain part of the club. Whether that be Suarez and Gerrard like in your case or FSG and BR in someone else's. Gerrard and Carragher have been mates for over a decade now. I'm not sure they spend their summer hols together having a bbq in the yard but I'm 100% certain Stevie will have discussed this with Carra and will have received his blessing. Now he can be back for pre-season and Carra wouldn't be Carra if he didn't put the club's best interest over his own. Shame not more people can be that way.
ReplyDeleteIt's not at all odd that you've convoluted this contrary opinion, that's basically what you do on this site and you make no apologies for it. But I am surprised that you don't even seem to consider the preferences of the players involved and the football club as a whole. Why doesn't it occur to you that what Gerrard and Carragher himself might want is relevant? You just don't even mention it. That's the odd bit.
ReplyDeleteGerrard, He has Allready had the surgary !!
ReplyDeleteMany of us have been thinking along the same lines but u r the 1 who wrote about it. It was surely not life or career threatening. He should have postponed it till after the match. I m sure that Carrar would have done that if their roles were reversed.
ReplyDeleteAnd number 1 was Carragher...and number 2 was Carragher...
ReplyDeleteThis is nonsense Jaimie, sorry. Carra and Stevie are best mates off the pitch so do you seriously think they didn't talk about this privately? Both are renowned for being LFC first at all times and always do what is best for the clubs but the biggest falsehood here is your use of the dramatic but nonsense line that this was a 'massive kick in the teeth' to Carra. No such thing was intended, implied or perceived by either of them. Stevie was present to give his close friend a proper send off befitting the enormous impact Carra has had for so long. To suggest anything untoward here is an insult to the players.
ReplyDeleteDo you seriously think Carra cares about this minutiae? He was there. That was the only important thing.
ReplyDeleteI have to disagree there,
ReplyDeleteIf liverpool were playing for 4th place or a cup then yes he would delayed it. Regardless of the occasion, ask carra if the roles were reversed and he would of had the operation the same to be fit for pre-season, so I have to disagree that no I don't think it's a kick in the teeth. Justified in my opinion, regardless of the sentimental value in the game, the club and next season is more important and again carragher would agree
Bit of a dramatic view on this Jamie K dont you think?
ReplyDeleteI doubt very much if Carragher would have been as upset by this as you appear to be, as he would always be of the view that the team comes before an individual, in this case having Gerrard fit for as early as possible for next season outweighs him playing in a dead rubber yesterday.
Get over it.
Jamie C.. best of luck. What a legend.
I have enjoyed reading and occasionally commenting on this forum but I think your scraping the barrel with this thread, it's clearly evident that both these great scousers have a good on/off field relationship and if Cara is anything like he portrays himself I'd say it didn't bother him in the slightest...as other posters have said ''get him right for pre and next season'' (Gerrard that is..) he may be well recovered by July but why risk it if there were complications, we're already looking at next season without Suarez for the first 6 games....
ReplyDeleteI know you didn't have the hindsight of the attached photo but I think it says it all..
The next couple of months are frustrating for most fans and in particulate the misinformation on potential signings, I trust you will only post 'genuine' sound-bites and not wild speculation about players who will never end up playing in the red of LFC..
Keep the banter going, look forward to it next season and a real push for top 4 and silverware...YNWA
After giving it a bit of thought, i don't think Steve Gerrard would snub Jamie anytime, this is just mischief making! surely there are better things to talk about?
ReplyDeletemaking much ado about nothing. obviously this writer just needs to write about something and get some attention.
ReplyDeleteIt makes perfect sense actually. Carra to captain his last game for Liverpool. With Gerrard playing he would be outgoing vice captain.
ReplyDeleteThey will for sure play when a testimonial game is scheduled. So no big deal.
right. suddenly there's a site update limiting the way comments are posted. just because the author got loads of criticisms, primary of which is that he is an attention-desperate sorry piece of individual. even my comment earlier is not here, when i said he was just trying to get attention. oh well, likes dishing it out but can't take it yourself, eh JK?
ReplyDeleteHahahahahahaha ! Always makes me laugh when I hear LFC fans calling blues fans 'bitter', surely you have mis-spelt this and you meant BETTER ? I think the word 'bitter' would best be saved for fans who are obsessed with other clubs and fester a pure hatred towards them, hmmm . . . . . a bit like yourselves with the trophy winning machine that is MAN UNITED maybe ??
ReplyDeleteAlso I think that both 'rat boys' have more medals than Jamie 'no one can understand what I'm saying' Carragher !! And as for the amazing Mr Moyes, he has now made Everton the best team on Merseyside....FACT, as well as winning THREE LMA manager of the year awards, how many did Doglish, Benitez, Hodgson or Brent win ?? As for trophies, Moyes will win LOTS & LOTS & LOTS at Man Utd ! Dream on delude . . . . . Next season eh ?
Please do fuck off with this shit. I understand you want to generate debate but at least try and do it with a semblance of intellect. You fucking tedious prick.
ReplyDeleteThis is more of a woman's conversation topic,yawnnn..
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