Prior to the signing of Danny Ings, Liverpool were heavily linked with fellow Brit Charlie Austin, another striker whose team suffered relegation to the Championship this season. With Ings now on board, Austin is arguably no longer needed, but new reports claim that Austin is inexplicably back on the club's transfer radar.
According to Sky Sports today:
* Liverpool are planning a 'shock bid' for Charlie Austin.
* Austin is 'not a primary transfer target' for Liverpool this summer, but Brendan Rodgers is still allegedly 'weighing up a move'.
* Austin is aware of Liverpool's interested, and has consequently 'stalled on his exit from QPR'.
Gosh, where to start with this one?!
* If Austin - dubiously described recently described by Harry Redknapp as an 'unbelievable' striker - is 'not a primary target', then what is the point of signing him?
* Ings OR Austin, but both? It speaks volumes about Rodgers' judgement in the transfer market that Ings clearly *was* a primary target ahead of Austin, who is far more prolific in the Premier League.
* In May, I conducted a poll on the site, asking fans to choose between Ings and Austin. A whopping 75% of fans preferred Austin over Ings, and it's not hard to see why:
- More prolific: 25 goals/assists in 36 apps, compared to Ings' 15 goals/ assists in 38 apps.
- Goal/assist every 1.5 apps (vs. Ings' 1 every 2.3 apps)
* After Ings, the clear priority is (or should be) the aggressive recruitment of a top-class, experienced striker with a history of consistently scoring goals. If Rodgers' answer is to stack the team with British players who recently graduated from the Championship, then there are serious problems at Anfield.
Liverpool legend Steve Nicol is against the signing of Austin. When asked recently about the Reds' interest, Nicol admitted that Austin 'has talent', but argued that he'd probably follow the same underwhelming trajectory as Adam Lallana, another British player with alleged 'ability, skill, and a little something different':
“Lallana...hasn’t worked [and] he [Austin] is going to be another player that falls into the category. Liverpool need to sign players that from the get go we know what we are getting and [will] drive the club forward from the situation.”
Last summer, I argued that Liverpool would not move forward with the likes of Lallana and Lambert, and it's exactly the same this year: Milner, Ings, Austin et al will NOT push the Reds to the next level, and it's endlessly depressing to see the club linked with and/or signing such (comparatively) average players.
Additionally, Austin may now be too expensive to justify. According to QPR Director of Football Les Ferdinand
"We would love to keep Charlie Austin at QPR...but someone scoring 17 goals in this division, you’re looking at £15-20million at least.”
Granted, after being relegated, QPR don't have much of a bargaining position, but Austin will still (probably) cost £10m+, and for that money (combined with the eventual fee for Ings), Liverpool could've signed Luciano Vietto, or Roberto Firmino, both of whom are more prolific that Austin and Ings.
It's positively bone-chilling to think that Liverpool's chances of returning to the Champions League next season may rest on the shoulders of Ings, Austin, Lambert, and Balotelli. *shudder*
It seems that Rodgers is hellbent on turning Liverpool into a facsimile of the England team; Perhaps FSG should go the whole hog and get Roy Hodgson back in charge, too?
Author: Jaimie K
According to Sky Sports today:
* Liverpool are planning a 'shock bid' for Charlie Austin.
* Austin is 'not a primary transfer target' for Liverpool this summer, but Brendan Rodgers is still allegedly 'weighing up a move'.
* Austin is aware of Liverpool's interested, and has consequently 'stalled on his exit from QPR'.
Gosh, where to start with this one?!
* If Austin - dubiously described recently described by Harry Redknapp as an 'unbelievable' striker - is 'not a primary target', then what is the point of signing him?
* Ings OR Austin, but both? It speaks volumes about Rodgers' judgement in the transfer market that Ings clearly *was* a primary target ahead of Austin, who is far more prolific in the Premier League.
* In May, I conducted a poll on the site, asking fans to choose between Ings and Austin. A whopping 75% of fans preferred Austin over Ings, and it's not hard to see why:
- More prolific: 25 goals/assists in 36 apps, compared to Ings' 15 goals/ assists in 38 apps.
- Goal/assist every 1.5 apps (vs. Ings' 1 every 2.3 apps)
* After Ings, the clear priority is (or should be) the aggressive recruitment of a top-class, experienced striker with a history of consistently scoring goals. If Rodgers' answer is to stack the team with British players who recently graduated from the Championship, then there are serious problems at Anfield.
Liverpool legend Steve Nicol is against the signing of Austin. When asked recently about the Reds' interest, Nicol admitted that Austin 'has talent', but argued that he'd probably follow the same underwhelming trajectory as Adam Lallana, another British player with alleged 'ability, skill, and a little something different':
“Lallana...hasn’t worked [and] he [Austin] is going to be another player that falls into the category. Liverpool need to sign players that from the get go we know what we are getting and [will] drive the club forward from the situation.”
Last summer, I argued that Liverpool would not move forward with the likes of Lallana and Lambert, and it's exactly the same this year: Milner, Ings, Austin et al will NOT push the Reds to the next level, and it's endlessly depressing to see the club linked with and/or signing such (comparatively) average players.
Additionally, Austin may now be too expensive to justify. According to QPR Director of Football Les Ferdinand
"We would love to keep Charlie Austin at QPR...but someone scoring 17 goals in this division, you’re looking at £15-20million at least.”
Granted, after being relegated, QPR don't have much of a bargaining position, but Austin will still (probably) cost £10m+, and for that money (combined with the eventual fee for Ings), Liverpool could've signed Luciano Vietto, or Roberto Firmino, both of whom are more prolific that Austin and Ings.
It's positively bone-chilling to think that Liverpool's chances of returning to the Champions League next season may rest on the shoulders of Ings, Austin, Lambert, and Balotelli. *shudder*
It seems that Rodgers is hellbent on turning Liverpool into a facsimile of the England team; Perhaps FSG should go the whole hog and get Roy Hodgson back in charge, too?
Author: Jaimie K
Firmino to Utd almost done I hear. What a shame, we could've done with a player of his caliber.
ReplyDeleteThis is becoming comical if true!!! There is no plan to take us forward...If they want him out they should just fire him..Or is a deal in place that he is out in 6 months???
ReplyDeleteI just don't understand any of this crap. Is anyone at Liverpool even trying?? Players such as Vietto, Lacazette, Konoplyanka and Yarmolenko are all available but we still go for these Mid-Table quality attackers who are only at most good enough to be 3rd, 4th choice. I'm so done with this load of crap! All I hope for now is a miracle that will bring back Liverpool Football Club to where it belongs, IN THE FREAKING TOP 4!!!
ReplyDeleteIf anyone can figure out our transfer policy let me know?, we over-pay for dross and low-ball for top players...............baffled.
ReplyDeleteIt is utterly incredible stupidity.
ReplyDeleteHe will have wasted our budget by then, leaving a mess for Klopp to sort out
ReplyDeleteUnited have Depay ( who Rodgers eloquently stated at the time wasn't a necessary targeted player for Liverpool ) and are capturing the excellent , Firmino but LFC have Ings and maybe Austin. You are kidding me ?
ReplyDeleteThe battle for 6 th spot is heating up now.
Why is Vietto so much better than Austin? Their numbers are about the same, only Austin did it in the premier league, which means he already understands the demands and at an underperforming team, meaning he did it under arguably more difficult circumstances. I think the negativity against Austin is clearly because he is British and because he plays for QPR, both of which are nonsensical reasons. The man had 17 goals and 7 assists. What more must he do to be worthy of a transfer to liverpool?!
ReplyDeleteIt's actually quiet simple:
ReplyDeleteThrow it at the wall and see if it sticks
For me, Vietto is a better option because he has European experience, and clearly has the talent to thrive in Europe (14 goals/assists in 12 Euro apps this season).
ReplyDeleteThat automatically puts him ahead of both Ings and Austin, neither of whom have any European experienced.
I believe you're missing the point. Based on your comment, the same could've been said last season (and was by many fans), and look what happened.
ReplyDeleteIf it looks average, and feels average, it's most probably average.
Plus playing for a relegation threatened team is completely different to playing for a team with high aspirations. We have learnt that so many times the hard way and yet we do not seem to change.
ReplyDeleteLatest news Tevez rejects Liverpool , Falco to Chelsea , Vietto and Lacazette have turned down moves to Liverpool and maybe Nobody else wants to move to Liverpool ?
ReplyDeleteSO maybe Austin is not so bad !
Buy rubbish for high prices citing their PL experience, do not go for players tailor made for us citing that we do not need them and then when the players inevitably fail, you blame it on inexperience and a "young team".
ReplyDeleteI'm bucking the trend ....I'd sooner have Austin for 10m than some guy looking for a pay day .....in a 442 I actually think we would get 20 to 30 off these two up front
ReplyDeleteJaimie,
ReplyDeleteAll these players are mentioning WILL not move to Liverpool .
Fans need to accept that the GLORY days are over .
Let's not beg ....I only want players who want to play for us regardless of calibre
ReplyDeleteIf Rodgers is harbouring the England managerial post he should just resign there's no need to turn LFC into a team full of English players
ReplyDeleteThen it will be Ings and Austin
ReplyDeleteUnless Raheem gets sold for some absurd amount, then only I guess FSG would buy someone bigger than Oprah!
ReplyDeleteMaybe the press would love LFC, since mostly British players and the heat would not be on the BR's head?
I think if we sign Austin, we might be borderline top 4 in the league standings next season.
From what I have seen, Ings appears the workhorse and Austin the finisher.
Jaimie K, I read your dreadful articles with increasing disdain.
ReplyDeleteYou know nothing, you are an utter dick.
Maybe that is his aim. Easy selection as coach for Eng then.
ReplyDeleteJaimie K, I read your dreadful articles with increasing disdain.
ReplyDeleteYou know nothing, you are an utter d*ck.
Mark Lawrenson summed it up today by saying "If your aim is for Liverpool reach the top 4 and play CL football then you must sign players worthy of playing in the CL". It makes sense, but are FSG really aiming to get the club back into the CL? Rodgers had that remit, he failed yet he is still in charge, why? Kenny had that remit, failed and was sacked. So what has changed? Liverpool have no chance of reaching the CL with free transfers and over hyped British players. FSG surely must know this by now so what is really going on behind the scenes?
ReplyDeleteYou know whar I don't mind either as i have always stated ,
ReplyDeleteFrigman on the bench for England - is he a bit part player for them as well?
ReplyDeleteWith Rodgers as manager and no cl we have to set our sights accordingly, wecat compete with city etc for top players so there is no point in embarrassing our selves
ReplyDeleteSurely he needs your support now that he plays for LFC .?
ReplyDeleteWhen all is fit milner won't get in the Liverpool team
ReplyDeleteIt's a joke mate... But Delph is playing ahead of him so I do not know what to say
ReplyDeletePlease knock it off with this superfan schtick. If fans want to question signings, they can, and they don't need you trying to guilt trip them into 'support'.
ReplyDeleteSterling missed a sitter- what a surprise
ReplyDeleteSo you only support the fit 11?
ReplyDeleteThe mercenary just missed a sitter
ReplyDeleteThe moment I saw him through I knew he would miss. How he can command so much is a mystery. We should have accepted City's bid IMO. If they bid more, accept it without a thout. BTW, hendo is wearing Stevie's number
ReplyDeleteYou are free do do so , BUT please let me state my side as well ?
ReplyDeleteIt's not on skysports I don't know what gave you that idea. It was the sun who initially reported so enough said
ReplyDeleteAs long as we get 35-40 m im fine
ReplyDeleteIf we get Kovacic, I would want a midfield three of Kovacic, Can and Hendo..
ReplyDeleteYou can state your side in a constructive manner, by engaging in civil discussion with fellow posters. Posting pointless one-liners questioning the nature of other posters' support is antagonistic, and achieves nothing. It's a form of sniping, and does not foster a pleasant environment. If you don't like the nature of someone's support, tough luck. Take issue with their *opinion*, not the individual.
ReplyDeleteif this is true wow this is abysmal... LFC need a proven class striker not more English dross (no offense even though i support England we all know English players aren't all that good).... i want to believe that BR is only comfortable with English players afraid of taking the leap to working with a more foreign squad... that is my opinion i could be wrong mind u but actions speak louder than words
ReplyDeletehe's always been a bit man player for club and country... can't recall a season where he started consecutively for club/sountry
ReplyDeletewhat are u doing joe hart??
ReplyDeleteGoof point. The main focus in my opinion, however must be the Premier league where Austin, due to his experience, is a marginally safer bet. The reality of the situation is Austin is far more likely to join us than Vietto, who is being targeted by A Madrid. As much as I would like us to be signing the Vietto's and Firminio's of this mad football world, I think we need to be realistic. That boat sailed after last season. I can't say why we ended up with Balotelli and Markovic instead of Firminio and a Jackson Martinez type, but now we need to take what we can get. I still have high hopes though! That British spirit of never say die, what!
ReplyDeleteOn this showing if Delphi is better than milner we really are in big big big trouble
ReplyDeleteAgree with say tino lalllana and Mr glass infront ....…id even put ibe with can and hendo before milner
ReplyDeleteCompletely disagree. Some LFC fans might consider certain signings disppointing but once they are signed they will look to support them as long as they deem necessary........ which is usually after their debut. Football is all about opinions and Glen's opinion is reflective of many LFC fans. Where did he say he was a superfan? He just posed a question, he did not say that others must agree!
ReplyDeleteAnother extremely negative article.... Time a few people including the author bogged off and supported another team! Lets have some positive vibes please. Liverpool supporters are better than this!
ReplyDeleteIt seems that Rodgers is hellbent on turning Liverpool into a facsimile of the England team; Perhaps FSG should go the whole hog and get Roy Hodgson back in charge, too? What sort of statement is this from a Liverpool supporter? The mind boggles and the author is getting paid for it!
ReplyDeleteAnother extremely negative article.... Time a few people including the author went and and supported another team! Lets have some positive vibes please. Liverpool supporters are better than this!
ReplyDeleteGlen can't be Superfann anyway because I am
ReplyDeleteHaha I stand corrected :)
ReplyDeleteBring on Milne's and Austin and let's get the party started
ReplyDeleteNO MORE ENGLAND players - Watching them now - Sterling USELESS Henderson Next to useless Lallana - weak as as kitten = SOUTH AMERICA EVERY DAY OF THE WEEK MATE
ReplyDeleteAustin and clyne on the bench get them on and party
ReplyDeleteBR will appoing a USELESS RESERVE MANAGER and Coach to try and ensure he is not sacked - PACO IN NOW
ReplyDeleteGreat assist lallana
ReplyDeleteThe Gunner boys look different class against Slovinia - Rooney is also useless
ReplyDeleteJaimie ,
ReplyDelete,I apologize it I offended you ,but
I take issue with fans continually referring to JM as frigging ,Its fine once or twice , you made your point but to continue month after month gets a bit boring
Thank you for your support !!!!!!
ReplyDeleteIm done. This has truly become the silly season. Mid table purchases. Mid table targets. Mid table finish next season.
ReplyDeleteI was also consciously supporting you just not in typed form ......
ReplyDeletestillhope the window hasn't opened yet but i get your frustrations
ReplyDeleteWrong. They are relegation or championship purchases and targets.
ReplyDeleteThanks,
ReplyDeleteGood player but definitely not what we need now with both Ings and Origi coming in this year. The priority has to be a world class or potentially world class talent. After all we've lost 2 global icons in as many seasons; Suarez and Gerrard.
ReplyDeleteI personally think this transfer window will reveal a lot about FSG and what their actual aspirations for LFC really are. At the start of their ownership, they were obviously very involved with the club and had great aspirations to take the club back to the top etc. In that time ,they made a hell of a lot of changes - 2 managers came in (Dalglish and Rodgers), they appointed and then sacked a director of football (Comolli), and latterly established a transfer committee.
What I find interesting is how much less involved they seem to have become with the club. At the beginning of their tenure they attended a lot of games, wrote open letters to the fans and sanctioned substantial spending on transfers. Last season, we had John Henry famously and publicly mock Arsenal about their Suarez bid and we also had his wife (Linda I think?) send tweets after numerous games. Now fast-forward to the 2014-2015 season. John Henry and his wife attend a lot less games, we have no humorous tweets about Man Utds alleged interest in Sterling and our spending seems like its going to drop dramatically. Okay, Liverpool spent around £110 M on transfers last year but lets not forget that they got approx £70M for Suarez along with another approximate £10M for player sales, so their net spend wasn't actually much at all.
What I find really bizarre now is the deafening silence from the club. We've just sacked our assistant manager and first-team coach - No comment from the club. Rodgers who's under intense media and pressure from the club just had his end-of-season review with FSG - no comment from the club to clarify his position and end the crazy speculation. Steven Gerrard, one of the greatest legends in LFC history had his final game for the club - No comment from FSG.
I hope I'm wrong but, as an outsider looking in, it looks a little bit like 'okay, guys we've tried hard to get Liverpool back to the top but it doesn't seem to be working so let's focus our attention elsewhere and let Ian Ayre run everything (commercial deals, PR statements, transfer deals etc).
Now, obviously we're early in the window and everything but at the moment things just dont look good. And I know we're obviously building a stadium extension but Ayre has previously said that won't affect our spending. And I think if that was a reason we can't spend as much, LFC should clarify that to the fans as we'd be a lot more understanding of the situation. But the deafening silence and the speculation that goes with it is hard to bear.
what do you guys think as I'm worried about the direction the club is heading in?
And apologies as this is long and probably isn't too well written but I wanted to the get that one of my chest and see what some of fanbase think.
Nice thesis Alex ......and remember its good to talk
ReplyDeleteCan we not swapa sterling for Wilshire , always room for another midfielder
ReplyDeleteand thats why james milner is a bit part player for club and country nice build up play for that goal who involved hendo and lallana
ReplyDeleteWhat do we want with goalscoring midfielders?
ReplyDeleteTo play them in goal or at left back
ReplyDeleteThat is sad but true.
ReplyDeleteDoesnt matter when the window opens if the targets are the same.
ReplyDeleteUh?
ReplyDeletewhat would james milner have added to the match if he started... basically my arguement
ReplyDeleteMore comments from me for a start
ReplyDeleteAdam bundledvoff the ball with a little plnky
ReplyDeleteMay be we should sign him ....ex Sheffield Wednesday right up our alley
ReplyDeletei've been scouting hendo and lallana so i get what your saying
ReplyDeleteI see you don't think he gives us any more than we already have. You could be right but sometimes against certain teams you need a more solid midfield and he and Hendo could give us that bit of steel. He might not though;-)
ReplyDeleteOh god.
ReplyDeleteYes?
ReplyDeleteSorry I misread that ;-)
ReplyDeletethanks for that logical view... he can give us that certain extra grit against physical teams but how some fans view him as if he's the english pogba... joking... i do agree he can add something we don't have but just like at MCFC and England he should be a bit part player
ReplyDeleteGoing around questioning the support of other fans is not constructive, and is outlawed. If a poster has a problem with the nature of another poster's support, that's tough luck. Question specific opinion, not whether someone is a supporter or not.
ReplyDeleteSo it is now true that taking us to 2nd with Suarez has given Rodgers another chance???????? I see us in 7th next season with our transfer targets. May God help us. YNWA
ReplyDeleteSave my club!
ReplyDeleteDid you read it in reverse? ;-)
ReplyDeleteThat's ma boy!
ReplyDeleteYou have to admit though sometimes you do wonder why some people say they are Liverpool supporters.
ReplyDeleteThey hate the manager, the owners, Ian Ayre the transfer committee, most of the players, most of the ex-players turned pundits, the new signings and potential signings their fellow fans and even some Liverpool web sites
No, they don't 'hate' any of that. Fans have the right rto question every aspect of the club, as it wouldn't exist without the fanbase.
ReplyDeleteLiverpool FC only exists because fans across the glibe spend tens of millions every year on tickets, merchandise etc, which allows the club to sustain itself.
Loved the end bit to this article get roy hodgson back. Lol
ReplyDeleteAustin will fit in very well at Liverpool. He is used to playing in the Prem for an underperforming team.
ReplyDeleteWell you've described it accurately.
ReplyDeleteI would be over the moon if any striker came and didn't work the way Lallana didn't..
ReplyDeleteIt seems that Rodgers is hellbent on turning Liverpool into a facsimile of the England team; Perhaps FSG should go the whole hog and get Roy Hodgson back in charge, too? Who wrote this article???? Roy or Woy (if you are uneducated lots of those about!) has just completed a season unbeaten for the first time in twenty four years? How good is that. Perhaps it may well have been better if Liverpool FC gave Hodgson more time. .... I don't know but who knows..... it does say something! Too many negative sheep..... Just read the Echo comments! The season before last Rogers almost won us the title.... Yes Suarez was involved but it was not Rogers fault he bit his way out! lol!
ReplyDeleteThat's the thing.. I don't really know is there anyone thinking Friggy is our saviour or Pogba or something like that. Just a very good player we should have in our team/squad.
ReplyDeleteBut a top 4 finish. At least..
ReplyDeletei've gotten replies where individuals believed he's better than hendo, lallana, lucas,Can and allen (allen one i agree with)... and such is not the case imo i'm ok with milner coming in but if he comes in to usurp either Hendo or Emre Can's position in our starting 11 i will be upset
ReplyDeleteI think those three and Couts are our midfield for the next season. With Ings and Origi and some bloody flare I think it can be enough..
ReplyDeletekudos fair point.... we are rumours about kovacic some Barelona defenders in the media... no news about a quality CDM or Striker though.... atm it seems to me that transfers are being conducted on the approval of the transfer committee and not with BR's input... i could be wrong but how can a guy on holidays and no official confirmation from LFC be conducting transfers... BR conduct also i find to be most dis-pleasurable there is LVG and Wenger helping to co-ordinate transfers... and here's our manager our shining knight in armour out in marabella
ReplyDeleteonce milner does not impede hendo and Can's nailed on starting positions in midfield i am ok... but given what we know about BR i expect Can to be unfairly banished to the bench
ReplyDeleteA good balance can be established between the three I think. But only if manager is good enough and we collect enough points on the start.
ReplyDeleteBut if Kovacic comes, it will be a hive in the mid..
That's a very valid point
ReplyDeleteThat's why it hasn't been replied..
ReplyDeleteKovacic should also be a nailed on started... we have tooooooo much midfielders
ReplyDeleteAnd only one, injury prone and aging DM.. Pain in brain...
ReplyDeleteGlen has made a very valid point below. Do you think it is right to keep referencing Milner as "friggin"?
ReplyDeleteidk why we have not gone after a CDM... it irks me how united have depay and fiminio and we have gone for milner, ings and bogdan..... but there are groups of fan who are ignoring this fact and accepting this level of mediocrity
ReplyDeleteUtterly depressing.
ReplyDeleteI said some people not all
ReplyDeleteI am in that group actually..
ReplyDeletehahaha still you make logical arguments for BR's shortcomings and i sense your not to thrilled about the transfers neither... once u don't make non-sensible arguments such as Pascoe and Marsh we're in fact the reason why we did so bad (as some BR supporters have) i can get along with u
ReplyDeleteInvesting in a miracle is what I call it. Had Suarez stayed would be much easier for the rest of our class players to chip in and keep mancs out of top 4. Now we have Lallana, cOUTS, hENDO, CAN, sAKHO, and wit some experience and youth, and the bloody flare we can kick them out. Than find another Torres/Suarez and go for the jack pot.
ReplyDeleteAnd every new season is a chance for a trophy as we are Liverpool.
Jamie, as usual you're article is over simplified and doesn't reflect reality:
ReplyDelete1. I haven't seen even one article linking LFC to Austin, which is actually quite odd as we've been linked to practically every attacker in the world in the past 3 months. Even if we were linked with Austin, it doesn't mean that it's true. Any idiot with a blog can start a transfer rumor...
2. We did activate Vietto's release clause (along with Arsenal & Atleti). The lad seemingly chose Atleti for obvious reasons. At this point can't blame Rogers for that.
3. I agree with you it's a shame we didn't go for Ferminio. However, we should have done so last summer when had a halo of success around us. There was no way that he would leave a CL team and come to LFC this year. Unfortunately as you argued last year, we chose to spend 25m on Lallena instead of 15m on Ferminio. What a shame.
4. This sums up the issue with LFC; we had a golden opportunity last year to Draft some world class players and we blew it on the likes of Balotelli, Lambert and Markovic. Now it will take someone like Klopp to attract elite players as currently Inter who's 8th in Seria A has more pull with Mancini then we do.
if suarez had stayed i agree we would have made top 4.... the problem now is getting a top class striker to get us back there (morata maybe)... i do like BR don't get me wrong he made me start back believing its just his stubbornness that irks me... if he gets rid of that nature of him he can be a world class manager.... sigh i am hoping for the best though cause at the end of the day we are all LFC supporters and we don't ever want to see our club fail
ReplyDeleteWhy is my opinion that you are not answering to Glen because he makes a valid point you can not answer deleted?
ReplyDeleteReally Jaimie?
ReplyDeleteHes not even stubborn in the right places. Eg of sturbborn managers :simeone. Bodgers is just foolhardy
ReplyDeleteIf this is true, am so happy... i can now fall on my sword and wish for....(is there really hope for us?)
ReplyDeleteDog be with you
ReplyDeleteAt best. Undoubtedly the club is heading for relegation. Nothing could be clearer. I may have to consider my options.
ReplyDeleteThey have the ONLY quality that matters... they have the right passport... they would rather spend on average british crap than go with foreign players with actual talent... how many brits were on the teams that won the title in the top 4 leagues for the last 10 years... there is a reason for that number being close to zero... if we want to get serious about winning a title we need to adopt a zero brits policy.. (and yes I am british..)
ReplyDeleteWhat is the use in bringing Austin or any other striker for that matter. We have 6 senior CF. (Origi Ings lambert balloteli borini sturridge)
ReplyDeleteThe point is not in these players coming. It is in the transfer committee trying.
ReplyDeleteI will go for berahino who suits to Liverpool system than Austin, only concern is with his agent Aidy Ward who will pollute his mind after 2 seasons
ReplyDeleteTerry, Hart, Lampard, Jones, rooney, ferdinand, milner, giggs, Cole, carrick, evans, young, Fletcher, oshea, cahill, barry and richards off the top of my head.... quite a few to answer your question!
ReplyDeleteAnd only £13m reportedly....gutted
ReplyDeleteTevez, Falcao, La cazette, Benzema. That's what we need
ReplyDeleteBenteke sure
wouldnt be too displeased with Vietto
Don't worry; I'm sure we can sign Lee Cattermole for at least 16 million pounds.
ReplyDeleteFrom SAS to BAIL. Yep.
ReplyDeleteGood points. Also because his first touch is better, he can dribble, and for me strikes the ball rather like Torres did in his prime.
ReplyDeleteAnd clearly we need that European experience to get us into the top 4 next season...NOT!!!!!!! Sorry Jamie I have to disagree with you and most of our armchair managers on this topic. We finished a poor 6th and we still have delusions of grandeur based on our terrific past and finishing 2nd two seasons ago. We just don't have the pulling power to get the players that we want because we aren't in the champions league and because we are LFC and don't offer the bright lights of London. I think that Premier League experience is far more important that European experience at this point in time to get us into the top 4 next season. I f we need a new manager then so be it, but Jurgen Klopp doesn't do it for me and based on current form I don't see him as a replacement for BR, look at where Dortmund finished this season. I think BR deserves another season.
ReplyDeleteJust fuckin sign Tevez for fuck sake
ReplyDeleteWe're a joke.
ReplyDeleteWhy doesn't anyone decide to just support the club and give some of the players a chance before just destroying them before they've even started. I think we can all agree we messed up last 1-2 years on transfer dealings and we should have bought someone world class to replace Suarez. If Levy was doing some of these deals it would be hailed as "great business". Is very early days in the window and we appear to have done some good business. Did anyone outside of hardcore Spurs fans know of Kane over a year ago and he scored 30 goals. We all aspire to have the worlds best but some of this seasons business (so far) looks like good business. Of course if that's where it ends we can all have a good moan but lets see where we end up on ins / outs at the end of the window. If Sturridge does ever get fit then a choice of him, Ings and Origi plus I am sure we will buy one other looks pretty decent. On top of all that we have to just accept we are NOT in the CL (1 swallow does not make a summer), we are not in major multi-cultural international city, our manager is not a big name and we are not owned by a Russian Oligarch or Middle Eastern oil money. People have short memories - we nearly went under with H&G!
ReplyDeleteMate im sick of people saying we can't attract players anymore because we don't have CL, here is a lesson in the world of football from one of those armchair supporters.....
ReplyDelete1. Money will attract footballers
2 A world class manager with a proven record will attract top players.
Thats what you need and the rest will fall into place.
JK you are spot on 100%.
All good players but surrounded by even better players from outside of the UK.
ReplyDeleteI'd be interested to know what your assessment of sturridge and coutinho was, when they were signed.
ReplyDeleteFrom my point of view they were seen as bit part unproven and unwanted by their previous teams, bit like some of the players we been buying last 2 years. Kane been loaned around and then all of sudden out of nowhere hits pay dirt. Pogba unwanted at Utd, De Bruyne unwanted at Chelsea and look at the fees being touted for them.
ReplyDeleteI think you lot are far to critical of all the players we brought last year, they were mostly kids, instead or nurturing everything they have learnt so far for playing in their positions BR came along and ripped it all apart played them all where he wanted and made them unconfident and totally unsure of their roles.
ReplyDeleteThis is the sort of thing that made Gerrard and Carra special they were moved about wherever the team needed them and it worked (to a degree Rafa played SG on the left to much) Those guys it worked for but not always.
Now please tell me why a bunch of 18-23 year old's are expected to be able to do this after coming to a completely new country and league.
Its BR doing this those kids didn't have those clubs putting huge buyouts on them for no reason.
I agree Jaimie apart from I'm pretty sure Rodgers doesn't have anything to do with the transfer targets apart from saying What positions he needs players for . Right Mr Rodgets you can have 3 championship players, bogdan,Ings snd Austin and you can have milner because man city have let him go. If we get £40 mill for sterling we will bring in the other half of the Southampton squad for you to play with and if you don't win the league with these amazing players your sacked
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ReplyDeletehttp://www.liverpool-kop.com/2013/01/lfc-transfer-news-rodgers-to-offer-13m-coutinho-inter-milan.html
Sturridge
http://www.liverpool-kop.com/2013/01/nicol-aldridge-hamann-react-to-12m-lfc-12m-sturridge-signing.html
I was a little wary of both signings, but positive about their ability to make it at Anfield. Re Coutinho, I said:
"Coutinho is undoubtedly an exciting player: skill, trickery, pace - just the kind of attacker Liverpool need".
Re Sturridge, I posted:
To be honest, I'm not that thrilled with the Sturridge signing, but hopefully he'll be a big success, and I'll be rooting for him to succeed
I also defended him against (what I perceived to be) unfair and counter-productive comments from Rodgers and Gerrard:
http://www.liverpool-kop.com/2013/01/liverpool-boss-brendan-rodgers-heaps-riduculous-pressure-on-sturridge.html
Ings was a good buy (if he comes in for 6M) and an upgrade on Lambert or Borini, and if our current trio are departing it leaves Sturridge, Origi, and Ings. We will definitely need another striker and I think Austin would be a Bargain at 10M assuming he stays injury free. I agree that Firmino would have been a great signing and I worry that we wont make top 4 next year. We are now a mid table team.
ReplyDelete"marginally safer bet"? Borini, Lambert, Allen, Lallana were all "marginally safer bets" to Fimino, Adriano, Dybala, Lacazette, Koke, Ruben Castro and Rakitic etc. Now we go for Ings, Austin, Bogdan! Indeed , they are safer bets but honestly it doesnt work out like that. Abumeyang, Hu-Seung, Klassen, Jese, Halilovic, Calhanoglu, Max Meyer, Julian Draxler arent safe best but they are better than these guys that BR is stacking, while letting go off Pelosci, Agger, Reina, Coates
ReplyDeleteAh, you are spot on. Its not really about being anti-British. Chamberlain, Walcott, Barkley, Chambers, Stones etc are our own (British) players who are miles better than Lambert, Allen, Lucas. Its about WHICH British players you buy.
ReplyDeleteOuch! Lucas is Brazilianese.
ReplyDeleteThey like the trajectory- Allen(15mill), Carroll (35mill), Adam (15mill), Cole, Downing(20mill), Lallana (25mill), Ings(reported 10 mill, Austin(18 mill wanted by QPR because he scored sooo many goals). I could work out a song using the first letter in these fantastic players' names. Then use the song in an advert for Dunkin Doughnuts or something like that
ReplyDeleteThen there is Lovren, Bogdan. Oh my gosh
The reason why the transfer committee, not br alone will bid for both and others is because that is the nature of the game across Europe. you even bid for players you have no intention of buying, but to bump up their contract at the club they are at, so rivals use up their funds quicker. with injuries and uncertainty over who would settle and more importantly7 deliver at Anfield if the price is right I would take both ings and austin. FSG are sticking with their buy Young plan. it is nothing to do with brendan rodgers limitations or inability to go for the more expensive Targets of which he alone isnt permitted to do full stop.
ReplyDeleteWoy Hodgson's an imbecile?
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