Last year, I consistently pushed for Liverpool to sign Spurs star Christian Eriksen, and felt sick when Spurs snapped him up for a ridiculously low fee. Andre Villas Boas' signings last summer have, for the most part, collectively failed, but Eriksen is a success, and former LFC midfielder Jamie Redknapp insists that the £11.5m spent on the youngster is 'money well spent'.
In his column for the Daily Mail on Monday, Redknapp praised Eriksen's ability to score crucial goals for Spurs, and highlighted his last-gasp leveller against West Brom; his winner at Old Trafford, and his two goals against Southampton when then London club were 2-0 down. He further enthused:
"He [Eriksen] has fantastic ability on the ball, good vision and great imagination. He has made the most assists at the club and also created nearly twice as many chances as the next best Tottenham player"
Eriksen has 18 goals/assists in 32 games for Spurs this season, which is a rate of one goal/assist every 1.7 games. How is that anything but a success story? Compare that with Coutinho - who has 12 goals/assists in 33 apps - and it's clear that the Dane is doing fantastically well, especially given the managerial upheaval at White Hart Lane this season. Re chances created, Eriksen is right up there with LFC's midfielders:
* Henderson: 60 chances created.
* Gerrard: 57
* Eriksen: 54
* Coutinho: 53
* Sterling: 41
I'm still gutted Liverpool didn't sign Eriksen. At Spurs, he's playing with a group of inconsistent individuals; imagine him playing alongside Suarez, Sturridge, Sterling, Gerrard et al. It's a mouth-watering prospect, and if he'd joined Liverpool, he undoubtedly would've played a lot this season:
* Cover for Suarez in the first six games of the season.
* Cover for Coutinho's injury period.
* Cover for Gerrard's injury period.
Etc.
I'm not saying Eriksen would've been a cover player all season - initially, perhaps, but I have no doubt that he would've forced himself into being a regular starter. He'd also be superb competition for both Henderson and Coutinho, and at the age of 22, he could've been a mainstay at Liverpool for years.
What's the better deal? £15m on Aspas and Alberto, or £11.5m on Eriksen? It's an absolute no-brainer, and given his contribution for Spurs this season, it's highly probable he'd have a similar impact at Anfield.
In my view, Liverpool lost out big time here, but there may still be a chance to sign the Dane. Why not put in a cheeky bid this summer? I'm sure Eriksen will prefer to play in the Champions League next season.
Author: Jaimie K
In his column for the Daily Mail on Monday, Redknapp praised Eriksen's ability to score crucial goals for Spurs, and highlighted his last-gasp leveller against West Brom; his winner at Old Trafford, and his two goals against Southampton when then London club were 2-0 down. He further enthused:
"He [Eriksen] has fantastic ability on the ball, good vision and great imagination. He has made the most assists at the club and also created nearly twice as many chances as the next best Tottenham player"
Eriksen has 18 goals/assists in 32 games for Spurs this season, which is a rate of one goal/assist every 1.7 games. How is that anything but a success story? Compare that with Coutinho - who has 12 goals/assists in 33 apps - and it's clear that the Dane is doing fantastically well, especially given the managerial upheaval at White Hart Lane this season. Re chances created, Eriksen is right up there with LFC's midfielders:
* Henderson: 60 chances created.
* Gerrard: 57
* Eriksen: 54
* Coutinho: 53
* Sterling: 41
I'm still gutted Liverpool didn't sign Eriksen. At Spurs, he's playing with a group of inconsistent individuals; imagine him playing alongside Suarez, Sturridge, Sterling, Gerrard et al. It's a mouth-watering prospect, and if he'd joined Liverpool, he undoubtedly would've played a lot this season:
* Cover for Suarez in the first six games of the season.
* Cover for Coutinho's injury period.
* Cover for Gerrard's injury period.
Etc.
I'm not saying Eriksen would've been a cover player all season - initially, perhaps, but I have no doubt that he would've forced himself into being a regular starter. He'd also be superb competition for both Henderson and Coutinho, and at the age of 22, he could've been a mainstay at Liverpool for years.
What's the better deal? £15m on Aspas and Alberto, or £11.5m on Eriksen? It's an absolute no-brainer, and given his contribution for Spurs this season, it's highly probable he'd have a similar impact at Anfield.
In my view, Liverpool lost out big time here, but there may still be a chance to sign the Dane. Why not put in a cheeky bid this summer? I'm sure Eriksen will prefer to play in the Champions League next season.
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I voted no the simple fact if we had signed him and he was used as cover (for any of the injured players mentioned) who knows What the results would of been. It would change the complete dynamics and chemistry of the team we have now (l know it could be argued that he could of changed things for the better I.e. got wins against City & Chelsea ovet the xmas period) but at the end of the day we are top with 4 games to go and I wouldn't change a thing (that includes the signings of the so called flops).
ReplyDeleteone player i wanted the club to get so badly!!! this guy is gonna end up making tottenham a lot of money in a coupla years once he ends up leaving and going one of the so called big team for a lot more than what they paid for 30-40mil easily. only 21 aswell don't understand why FSG didnt buy him. I can see him in a white shirt in a coupla years replacing the great Alonso at RM.
ReplyDeleteI dont believe for one minute that he would have definitely joined Liverpool last season a lot of talk of wanting him but he never signed.
ReplyDeleteI was gutted at the time. I'm over it now. Bet he's casting more envious glances our way than we are his
ReplyDeleteLooking at the table how are we missing out, Coutinho is better and £8.5m well spent!!
ReplyDeleteThe PL table tells it's own story!!!
ReplyDeleteI'm of the opinion that he would have been a nice player to have, but I don't think he would have been a make or break player for us.
ReplyDeleteI detailed his stats in a previous post about a month or so ago that broke down his goals/assists.
Essentially it showed that he has really beaten up on the not-so-good Europa teams and inflated his numbers a bit.
And in the league, he's had only one or two really good games where he's contributed big time on the scoresheet (mainly against Man U where he had 2 goals in the game). The majority of his league goals/assists came against the bottom 5 or so teams in the league (depending on where they were at the team).
Now that's me diminishing his contribution to an extent, but obviously you'd rather a player score against those teams than not score at all.
My point goes back to my original thought... a nice player... would have fit in here well. But I'm not losing sleep over missing out on him.
The most valid comment you made was about how we spent more on Alberto/Aspas. Alberto obviously is younger and hopefully has some time to show his worth. Aspas has his bags packed.
Did anyone see Tiago illori playing against Barca?, he was superb and didn't give them a sniff.......................he is going to be a class footballing CB at Liverpool.
ReplyDeleteI think he has looked impressive especially recently but I would like to know what his work rate was like. He couldn't get near our players when we played them whereas Coutinho's best performances have seen him doing all the aspects of the game well. I think a team that tried to crowbar all our more attacking players plus Erikson would be dangerous but obviously form and injuries would allow him game time. Enough? Hard to say.
ReplyDeleteI would agree that I would rather have him at Anfield rather than Aspas.
Difficult to judge Eriksen over rest of the players because the Liverpool players have had more time to settle in PL. They have also benefitted from working with far better strikers and crucially a far better manager.
ReplyDeleteThese all impact the stats. What Eriksen has achieved this season has been extremely impressive in a stumbling spurs team in his maiden season.
I saw the second half of that game and he did look very good. I'm happy for him to go out on loan again next season as our defence may just be coming together. If he continues to impress (unfortunate he was injured for a lot of his loan) then it's good news for us. He also looked a bit bigger to me. Not sure if it was just comparative but he looked more built. If John Stones has shown anything I think it might be that Ilori could be the future for us.
ReplyDeleteHis pace is outrageous!!!.......................he had Messi in his pocket.
ReplyDeleteAnd Neymar. Not exactly slow players. It's great to talk about his speed and his technique but he made quite a few clearances and interceptions during that half I saw alone. Playing for a league struggler will help in that he will have to do lot's more work before the season is out. This is good to see is concentration and focus.
ReplyDeleteHe brings the ball out very well, like Danny Agger.
ReplyDeleteEveryone in football knows this pretty boy idiot has a problem with Spurs lol even though they supported his old man when over £140k ended up in a Monaco bank account with his dogs name on it lmao!
ReplyDeletehe then wants out of the club a day later;) he then says the players need a manager with a long contract and invites Sky sports to interview him the day Daniel Levy was on a flight to America to bury his mum!
Jamie Rednapp couldn't manage a pub team so his comments are nothing!
hes done nothing in football and is just a mouth piece.
Liverpool are having a fantastic season and good luck to them, great to watch this year thats for sure, hope they go on to win the title and everyone at Spurs probably thinks the same way, BUT Spurs will juggle there huge squad and bring in forward players and defenders to compliment what we have already.
One things for sure we cannot be as unlucky with injurys next year as we were this, well hope so anyway.
I can surely understand Redknapps frustation. Eriksen? When Laudrup was manager in Swansea, we where some there more then all other wanted Laudrup to sign Eriksen (Cause i feel he had a Changes that Eriksen would say yes,cause both danish and Eriksen is being compare with Laudrup over here)
ReplyDeleteWhen that is said, So where do find a player similiar to Eriksen.(trying and keep trying on the Tottenham fanpage i hope that Tottenham (Or Liverpool) would turn all Eyes to Swansea and former Valencia player Pablo Hernandez, this super dribbler, got some of the same Erikson skills , a wise and fast thinking player, incredible fast with his feets, great visions. read the game well, he is a bit stronger when he is in the left side. he dosent care how many players there is around him,
0:46-0:56 makes my Eyes wet
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2NQfoPkA2wk
Redknapps do what you have to do walk into the Liverpool board room, and this is the player we should sign
And Wake up spurs, be alert. £8million for a player, Hernandez are a high class player.
Oh god plastic Liverpool fans chirping up again.
ReplyDeleteLiberpool are still yesterday's club in a shit city with overrated plastic fans and are going to lose Suarez this summer
Thank god for next season when you will be back to being no marks again
Oh a Bayern Munich supporter I suppose. Crawl back under the shi!tty rock you crawl out of bell end. This is as much joy you will get trolling here, go be pathetic somewhere else.
ReplyDeleteWorkrate. Its maybe the biggest reason why we're on top. Compare his workrate or lack of with that of Coutinho or Sterling's contributions. The both of them always seem to run themselves to the ground.
ReplyDeleteOh look, Bobby recommended his own post
ReplyDeleteAspas - Zero and expected to contribute to results
ReplyDeleteAlberto & Ilori - Younger players not expected to contribute
Sakho - Mixed results. When healthy, he's been good. But hasn't been healthy enough.
Like I said above... the most damning critique of not signing Eriksen is that we bought Aspas and Alberto for roughly 4m more combined.
win against city doesn't count? What was Thibaut courtois contribution to Chelsea's?
ReplyDeleteIf we win the league, everything BR did was spot on in my humble tiny little opinion. The balance of attitude must be right even those that hardly play but give it their all at practice with fine spirit.
ReplyDeleteBTW, I see Luis Alberto has 9 appearances in the prem. I would bet my gonads that BR puts LA in for one more appearance even if its for a minute so he can get a winners medal. Shame as Enrique has 8 appearances. I think he disserves one too for the effort over the past few.
Weird that was under the name azas before. Curious.
ReplyDeleteThere isn't much between the teams apart from 5 positions in the league,17 points and a goal difference of 51 goals.
Next year will be more difficult that is for sure. The fact that we have still got one of the biggest fan bases, more money coming in due to overseas revenue, more money on a match day due to a bigger stadium that is always full and the position to offer wages of 200k a week, as well as CL competition and the fact that we have already seen off offers for Suarez could help us to recruit.
Whereas a club only ever on the fringes of the CL who have had four different managers in the last couple of years and wasted most of the 100m they got for Bale without having the income that we can generate may not quite be on par.
But it's in London so it's sound! We may not be able to buy Erikson but most fans feel we didn't miss out too much. The league position suggests the same.
Notice that too.
ReplyDeleteThis a spurious myth. What evidence do you have that Eriksen work rate is inferior,
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Workrate. Its maybe the biggest reason why we're on top. Compare his workrate or lack of with that of Coutinho or Sterling's contributions. The both of them always seem to run themselves to the ground. 11:39 a.m., Wednesday April 16
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Can you prove otherwise?
ReplyDeleteyour opinion is based on what you see on tv, ive seen him live 5 times, and off the ball the lad is poor, cant get his foot stuck in, so you have to carry him in the team, this article is based on what "good bits" you have seen..a weak lazy argument in my opinion
ReplyDeleteVertonghen is the most likely of anyone in my book.
ReplyDeleteI agree that it wouldn't make much sense to sell a good player to the competition... but if anyone from Spurs is sold to LFC or vice versa, I'd pick Vertonghen.
It's not up to me to prove otherwise, and that in and of itself is a spurious request. I'm not the one making totally unbacked assertions. I've laid out factual evidence in the article that proves Eriksen is a majorly productive member of Spurs' s squad. To suggest he has a poor work rate based on nothing whatsoever is just nonsense. It's like a Spurs fan arguing that Coutinho has a poor work rate, which is not true either.
ReplyDeleteBasing arguments on unproven assertions just pulled out if thin air is wrong, and just smacks of typical deatructive fan rumour-mongering
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*Cover for Suarez
ReplyDelete*Cover for Coutinho
*Cover for Gerrard
The problem here is that Eriksen and Coutinho would not both feature in the starting eleven. Most definitely not in a midfield 3.
The other thing I struggle with in this instance is the word cover. I would be very surprised if Eriksen was going to accept that he might not be a regular in the team.
Perhaps he has watched him play and made that statement based on what he has seen. I haven't seen that much of spurs this season but those games I have I can't say I saw much of him doing anything of much note including harrying and tracking. But I haven't seen his better games. I can tell you for an actual fact that Coutinho makes more tackles than Erikson, so too Sterling and both have played in similar positions to Erikson this season. Pressing stats seems to be just done by the anfieldindex at present so it's hard to have enough evidence.
ReplyDeleteTruth is he has not played in a team who press like we do so only really him being at us could we assess.
Coutinho has contributed important goals. He got us back at level terms at Fulham, he opened the scoring at Everton and Man City and scored the winner against Man City. Only regular goal was against Spurs, a team that had Eriksen. Scoring Shit loads isn't the matter, it's when you score that matters. Sterling has more goals than Coutinho, does that mean he's far sperior to him. He is best at what he does. Our midfield should not be considered with just goals/assists its more about the ball before the assist and they have loads of it.
ReplyDeletePS- Jamie, If you are gonna reply with mobile please remove all the info about my IP and everything before you post. I don't like what has happened with David and Greg Jones' data.
I don't think they made a mistake by not signing him, but he could've been a nice addition. I think he's a nice player who would have mainly competed with Coutinho (and sterling) for the 10 role in the various formations it was used, as well as the 8 role, in those formations. That said, we are still top of the table 4 games out and virtually a lock for CL next season. Let's see what is available in the summer, which may prove to be an upgrade over CE.
ReplyDeleteI should probably add that I to wanted us to sign him last season, but given Coutinho's performance in the second half of last season, I didn't see it as a necessity this past summer.
ReplyDeleteYes guys we should've signed this kid as he went for a ridiculous transfer fee, we've missed out big time. Why on earth we didn sign him is beyond me, unless ian ayre messed that transfer up to. But listen guys things happen we move on and enjoy where we are right now. TOP THE LEAGUE YE'HA. UP THE MIGHTY REDS. YNWA.
ReplyDeleteI still believe the lad in the suit and tie in the below photo has a big part to play down the line. This photo was taken after the Man City win at on Sunday.
ReplyDeleteI look forward to Spurs emulating Liverpool and winning the EPL next year :-)
ReplyDeleteSpurs have just struggled full stop. Spent 120 mil and gone backwards. Wouldn't have believed that was possible. We won't be making the same mistakes as trigger happy Daniel levy. Spurs are the perennial 5-7th place team and I don't see that changing any time soon
ReplyDeleteStrange that he is praising your player and your response is to attack, not him, but his Dad. I believe Jamie also played a bit of football but then as you say what does he know? You get a much better appreciation just watching it don't you?
ReplyDeleteSpurs unlucky? Probably true they managed to misplace one manager and the other seems to be slipping down the back of the sofa too
The only thing I'll give Spurs credit for is that they went out and reinvested the money. Granted it didn't work out... but no one can claim that they sold Bale and sat on the money.
ReplyDeleteI can't imagine us wanting someone who woud consider leaving a club before his contract is up just to get CL football :-/
ReplyDeleteTrue. Shows the fans that just want huge outlays of money to be spent every transfer window that money on its own doesn't guarantee success
ReplyDeleteCoutinho, Sturridge, Gerrard, Sakho, Agger, Lucas, Johnson, Enrique, Allen all missed at least 4 weeks at some point or another throughout the season.
ReplyDeleteAnd then take into account that Suarez was suspended for the first handful of games as well.
Every team deals with injuries at some point or another. Pardon me if I don't grant much sympathy to Spurs being "unlucky" with injuries this year.
To be brutally honest, Spurs have been struggling to replace 'arry. That's why they are struggling more than anything else.
Truth.
ReplyDeleteThe same stats you use could have been used as factual evidence that Mata was a majorly productive member of Chelsea's squad for the last 2 years (not counting this season) but Mourinho still shipped him out for his inability to make tackles and track back. I wish we'd gotten Eriksen too, but I wished that last summer...based on how we play now, I'm not sure if Eriksen would've been the right fit, I agree with Greg below...I haven't seen Eriksen do much harrying and tracking when I've watched him, maybe he's not supposed to, and maybe Rodgers' didn't think he was capable of it. And just because david didn't throw out the stats of ground covered, tackles made, etc., doesn't mean he's got no factual basis for his claims...like Greg says, maybe he just watches Eriksen play a lot. But if we got our hands on those stats I'm sure it'd be useful (I'm too lazy...anyone else?). You've laid out your evidence, and it points in Eriksen's favor, but it only tells half the story and doesn't prove whether or not he would be an effective player in our system.
ReplyDeleteOf course you believe it. He's a Rodgers signing, and according to you, BR is infallible in the transfer market.
ReplyDeleteEriksen stats are 13 goals and 8 assists in all competitions, get it right at least. Some of you must be joking that coutinho is better than Eriksen. Only Liverpool fans put him in the same class as Oscar and Eriksen. And as for a cheeky bid, get real... He'd cost you about 40m from us, we don't sell our best players to premier league clubs anymore. You don't even have the power to poach a player from a team like Newcastle, what makes you think after one good season (with no Europe and barely any injuries compared to other big teams) that you can now poach players from clubs that have bossed you for half a decade? I think you're getting ahead of yourselves just a bit! If you do it again next year then fair play if you start getting cocky but I have big doubts you will when your players get fatigued from Europe and injuries pile up next season. 6 of tottenhams 9 league losses came after away trips in Europe so you get the idea!
ReplyDeleteI'm with you the market is crazy...but it is the market's fault, where fees have gotten bigger and bigger. Benfica can quote 30million because while we might not pay it, there are clubs out there who will...and if no one pays it they get to keep their player. See the reports that Man U agreed a 35mil deal for William Carvalho? That kid has less than a full season under his belt. Coutinho came cheap because his stock was perceived to be going down, he'd been at Inter for a bit and wasn't breaking into the team...same with Sturridge. Markovic's stock is going up because it hasn't had time (at Benfica) to go down yet. Transfer fees these days have very little to do with a players true worth and everything to do with contract length, financial position of the selling club, and interest.
ReplyDeleteAs for his stats though...stats never tell the full story. Markovic could be laying the ball on a plate for his teammates and having them miss the chances...when you're playing in a lower calibre league I think chances created means more than assists. From what I've seen of this kid he looks pretty darn good, and I think he'd be even better in our team and under Rodgers' coaching, but as you say 30mil is way too much.
How do you know they wouldn't feature in the same XI? Once again, you're clearly taking a view that the opposite of logic purely because you have a history of dissing Eriksen.
ReplyDeleteEriksen can play centrally, behind the striker, or out wide if need be. He would play in Henderson's position, and give him major competition.
And 'cover' is just a figure speech. Anyone who replaces an injured player is, by definition, covering.
As I always highlight with you, it's just intellectual dishonest again. You will refuse to accept that Eriksen could've made a difference for LFC purely because you don't want to be proven wrong, not because you genuinely believe it.
Not Suso! It's been clear that kid would be a superstar since he was like 15, his passing ability is extraordinary. If we don't bring him back and into the fold to play a big role next season I won't be a happy camper...he's got 9 assists this season at Almeria, imagine what he could do with finishers like we have on the end of those passes.
ReplyDeleteI didn't say he 'worked hard', so don't put words in my mouth. My contention is that Eriksen is a productive member of Spurs' squad, and 18 goals/assists - which is MORE than Coutinho and Sterling, in less games - proves that.
ReplyDeleteIt's just utterly ridiculous that people run Eriksen down when his creative output is superior to every LFC player except Suarez, Sturridge and Gerrard.
How long has Henderson been in the Premier League? 4-5 years? In his first season in the Prem, Eriksen has outdone him in the creative department, and people still have the gall to argue that Eriksen is somehow not a good player?!
If people are going to make the assertion that Eriksen doesn't have a good work ethic, then they have to prove it, not just say it without any evidence to back it up. That's how false rumours begin. As a comparison: Sturridge has been dogged by false rumours about his attitude etc for years, and they have endured because fans make up rubbish, and spread it for years on end until it becomes fact.
'I watched him play' is not a valid reason. it's totally subjective, and basically meaningless. If someone watches a player live every week, that's a different story, but I sincerely doubt you or the person who made the original post watches Eriksen live regularly.
As such, objective evidence is required to back up (false) assertion about Eriksen's work ethic.
Someone who's lazy etc doesn't grab 18 goals/assists in the Premier League.
So, if you (or Logan, who is another poster who spreads the spurious rumour about Eriksen) can find one shred of objective evidence to support the contention that Eriksen doesn't work hard, I'm listening.
Evidence might include comments from previous coaches/managers; comments from his previous team-mates etc - something that proves the assertion.
If there's nothing, then it is - as I argued - a totally spurious myth founded on nothing.
I have never dissed Eriksen in any way. It is you who is putting words into my mouth. Show me one post where I have dissed Eriksen please.
ReplyDeleteIntellectual dishonesty. Oh the irony!
See, what you seem to ignore is that there are many people posting on your site that are of the opinion that Alberto does have a future at the club, not only me.
ReplyDeleteAs for your points about Coutinho and Sterling making more tackles. Here are the stats for this season.
ReplyDeleteTackles
Coutinho: 66
Sterling: 40
Eriksen: 34
Interceptions
Coutinho: 15
Sterling: 16
Eriksen: 22
Clearances
Coutinho: 8
Sterling: 13
Eriksen: 12
Duels Won
Coutinho: 39%
Sterling: 28%
Eriksen: 28%
Eriksen makes more interceptions and clearances than Coutinho; does that therefore mean Coutinho has a poor work ethic?! You seem to prioritise tackling above all else, but what about other defensive contributions.
Making interceptions is just as effective as tackling; it's the same thing, practically, it's just that people in the UK prioritise tackling over (seemingly) everything else. It's not that way elsewhere in Europe.
Alberto has no future at LFC. Bookmark this comment; come back in a year's time, and you will see I was right. Rodgers said Carroll had a future; he said Reina had a future; same re Downing. Where are they now?
ReplyDeleteI'm not wasting my time trawling through your comment history. You've repeatedly argued that Eriksen wouldn't make an impact at LFC; that he's not done well at Spurs; that he doesn't have a strong work ethic. If you want to lie about, feel free.
ReplyDeleteYou are the very epitome of intellectual dishonesty. You take views counter to logic, fact to save face, not because you truly believe them.
Even when Joe Allen is sold, you will probably still insist he'll be a success for Liverpool.
I totally disagree re your stance about me when it comes to Eriksen. If you can find a post where I have dissed Eriksen then please be my guess. Until such time it is hearsay.
ReplyDelete"Even when Joe Allen is sold" - Intellectual dishonesty, I am starting to like that term.
You know what they say about counting your chickens before they hatch.
ReplyDeleteYou clearly don't even know what it means.
ReplyDeleteOpta stats differ from yours. Which source did you use?
ReplyDeleteCoutinho's Duels won% via Opta is 52.3%. Eriksen's is 35.6%. Coutinho has won a massive 173 duels compared to Eriksen's 57.
Tackles won: Coutinho 49, Eriksen 18.
These are OPTA stats.
What is your source? Squawka? They have gaps in their data. Your stats are clearly league only. Mine are all competitions, which is the way it should be.
ReplyDeleteTo add to the OPTA stats,
ReplyDeleteCoutinho has attempted 66 tackles, Eriksen 20.
Recoveries: Coutinho 142, Eriksen 85.
What is your point?! You are using stats just for the league. Just because X has more tackles than Y doesn't mean Y has a poor work ethic. That is spurious logic.
ReplyDeleteIt shows that Couthino is by far the harder worker. The stats do not lie. They are irrefutable.
ReplyDeleteAnd before you pinpoint me, I am not the only one who is judging Eriksen's work ethic.
No, it does not show that at all. And once again: what is your source? Why are you avoiding the issue? I don't believe your figures are accurate. Plus, as I've already noted, you've just included stats for the league, not all competitions.
ReplyDeleteThe source is OPTA. It is stated in my replies.
ReplyDeleteNo, you do not have direct access to Opta, as the subscription costs thousands per year. You've got these stats from some site that claims to use Opta stats, so: what site did you get these stats from. Stop stonewalling and just answer the question.
ReplyDeleteI do have access to the stats for every EPL player via the LFC official website.
ReplyDeleteThe stats on the LFC website are LEAGUE ONLY, thus they are not accurate for all competitions. Plus, both Coutinho and Sterling have played 8 more league games than Eriksen (21 vs 29), so of course they will have made more tackles. That is obvious. Nice attempt at further intellectual dishonesty, though.
ReplyDeleteYou tried to discredit my stats which are via OPTA.
ReplyDeleteI like the way you want to use Europa league stats when LFC have not featured in the competition but it would be interesting to see Eriksen's individual stats from Europa league games.
All the OPTA stats that I provided show that Coutinho's work ethic is well ahead of Eriksen's and highly doubt even Eriksens's Europa league stats would change anything.
You have the chance to prove me wrong.
No, you've already proved yourself wrong. You've deliberately tried to use misleading stats to backup your false argument:
ReplyDelete* You used stats for league only, knowing full well that both Coutinho and Sterling have played 8 more league games than Eriksen.
* Obviously, if they've played 8 more games, they will have the opportunity to make more tackles.
* A player should be judged on all competitions; it doesn't matter which competitions they are.
I'm not wasting any more time on this pointless debate. You are intellectually dishonest.
They may not have contributed much on the field but you don't know what they contributed off. As I said by not buying them and having Eriksen instead would have changed the dynamics of the team which lead to different results (Rodgers making different subs) and since we are top I wouldn't change a thong.
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ReplyDeleteFair point I'll look around.
ReplyDeleteWhy was whoever you were arguing with been deleted? It seems fro your replies they were posting stats rather than being horrible.
ReplyDeleteWhy do you constantly imply that I delete comments of people I disagree with? Seriously, stop it. Logan deleted his own comments for some reason; probably to make it look like I deleted them.
ReplyDeleteYes! If only buying Stats wins you Championships!! My opinion is derived from watching Spurs play. He is quality no doubt. But he is quite pedestrian when he's without the ball. Will he fit into the system, can he turn a game from deep midfield like Coutinho immediately after winning a ball? Stats just tell half the picture.
ReplyDeleteSome other stats will tell ya that Spurs spends most of their time in defence in their own half because their players do not press and don't have other significant players who can actually create or score goals.
Agger sold and Illori in the squad next year I believe
ReplyDeleteThat's the first time I've seen him play properly and I was very impressed. Couple of those performances for us and Jaimie will have to stop calling him a waste of money
ReplyDeleteWe need players that want to play at LFC...Look at all the talk of finding someone to usurp Flanno. Nonsense IMO just a repeat of what Carragher had all his career. Flanoo is our new Carragher someone willing to sacrifice all for the team and club. Having a greater skill set can't surpass that ethic. Don't waste money trying to replace Flanno. As for Markovich forget him find someone who wants to play for LFC. Let Cheskum have him.
ReplyDeleteDumb. Everything is in hindsight. For all you know he could've got injured and missed the season, or who's to say that his addition may have disrupted the midfield of what we see now?
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ReplyDeleteWell that is why I said maybe. I am on the fence with Suso.
ReplyDeleteTotally agree we should not be paying huge sums for players that still need massive amounts of development. People are speaking about us buying shaw for 30 mil and my feelings on that are exactly the same. 30 million investments should be for finished article players who will have an immediate and profound effect on our first team. Rakitic, Turan, players of that ilk
ReplyDeleteYea man the IPL is cricket where the teams bid huge amounts for players in a kind of giant auction, it's a pretty mental set up.
ReplyDeleteI haven't seen the figures but I heard that city are outspending even the likes of the New York Yankees which is staggering. I remember a couple of years ago Napoli did really well in the champions league with a minuscule wage bill compared to the rest of the teams