With less than two days remaining before the transfer window slams shut, Liverpool appear to be ramping up their efforts to sign Ukrainian star Yevhen Konoplyanka, who has now confirmed that the Reds' interest is real.
When asked last night about a possible move to Anfield, Konoplyanka told reporters:
"Liverpool? I"m so excited about it and soon you will know where I will play."
"It's all very serious. I'm shocked myself. It will all be clear very soon."
The latest developments:
* LFC offered £14.8m, but now the Reds have reportedly upped their bid to £16m.
* Liverpool MD Ian Ayre is in the Ukraine to try and wrap up the deal.
* LFC are offering Konoplyanka £60K a week.
* Tottenham are also in the running. Last night, Spurs boss Tim Sherwood said: "I know him [Konoplyanka] but nothing looks like happening. We'd have to do it now because we've only got two days left. I don't see it happening but that's why we've got people working with us".
As I argued yesterday, this has all the hallmarks of a panic-buy IMO. LFC got stiffed on the Salah deal (through the club's own incompetence), and now BR, Ayre et al are scrambling to sign someone before the transfer deadline.
And £16m? I ask again: how is that not overpriced? For me, there's no objective evidence (i.e. stats/creative return) to suggest that Konoplyanka is worth that much.
If Liverpool are going to spend that amount of money, I want a player who has a Juan Mata level of assists (or close to that), not someone who's never played in a top quality European league, and averages one assist every five games.
Of course, when it comes to transfers, I always want to be proven wrong. Hardly anyone knew much about Coutinho before he signed last year, but the Brazilian is (more often than not) doing the business for LFC.
Given Rodgers' ineffective use of transfer funds since arriving, I genuinely believe that his job will be on the line if Konoplyanka turns out to be another flop, and LFC consequently fail to qualify for the Champions League.
Author: Jaimie K
When asked last night about a possible move to Anfield, Konoplyanka told reporters:
"Liverpool? I"m so excited about it and soon you will know where I will play."
"It's all very serious. I'm shocked myself. It will all be clear very soon."
The latest developments:
* LFC offered £14.8m, but now the Reds have reportedly upped their bid to £16m.
* Liverpool MD Ian Ayre is in the Ukraine to try and wrap up the deal.
* LFC are offering Konoplyanka £60K a week.
* Tottenham are also in the running. Last night, Spurs boss Tim Sherwood said: "I know him [Konoplyanka] but nothing looks like happening. We'd have to do it now because we've only got two days left. I don't see it happening but that's why we've got people working with us".
As I argued yesterday, this has all the hallmarks of a panic-buy IMO. LFC got stiffed on the Salah deal (through the club's own incompetence), and now BR, Ayre et al are scrambling to sign someone before the transfer deadline.
And £16m? I ask again: how is that not overpriced? For me, there's no objective evidence (i.e. stats/creative return) to suggest that Konoplyanka is worth that much.
If Liverpool are going to spend that amount of money, I want a player who has a Juan Mata level of assists (or close to that), not someone who's never played in a top quality European league, and averages one assist every five games.
Of course, when it comes to transfers, I always want to be proven wrong. Hardly anyone knew much about Coutinho before he signed last year, but the Brazilian is (more often than not) doing the business for LFC.
Given Rodgers' ineffective use of transfer funds since arriving, I genuinely believe that his job will be on the line if Konoplyanka turns out to be another flop, and LFC consequently fail to qualify for the Champions League.
Author: Jaimie K
We should be happy that a decent player is coming in. The money isn't ours, so if FSG are happy to pay that much, why would we care? Hope he makes a Coutinho/Sturridge like impact =)
ReplyDeleteTBH...I am really hoping we get to find out if it is too much. I prefer that to more emotional speculation about what could have been.
ReplyDeleteIf you want someone of Mata's assists over the last few years....gonna cost you 30M+..... this is a fair price. This kid has so much potential. Look how far Suarez has come since he was 24 years old. I've been a fan of Konoplyanka for a while but thought he would cost a lot more than 16M. Always thought we would get Yarmolenko before him. This will be such a good signing. We will actually have a decent looking bench when Agger,Enrique, Johnson, Lucas, Sakho, Allen come back. Happy days ahead my red friends!
ReplyDeleteAnd also, you say that for that amount of money you want to see us sign players like Mata, but fact is Mata cost £37M and not £16M...
ReplyDeleteI didn't say 'players like Mata', I said players who provide lots of assists like Mata. There is a difference.
ReplyDeleteI doubt they hand out Ukrainian player of the year to one player three times if he's not any good, and still only 24. Only time will tell...........
ReplyDeleteOnly time will tell if he's overpriced. But I'd rather we pay this much for a quality player, then spend the same amount on 2 or 3 players destined to just make up the numbers.
ReplyDeleteFurthermore, I predicted this scenario. I knew penny-pinching on the Salah deal would only see us offering more for someone else. Sound economic sense! Still, I'll be glad when Konplyanka signs on the dotted line.
So one minute we complain about losing out on Salah (who is also unproven at this level) because we wouldn't increase our bid by £1-2 million and the next minute we worry that we have offered too much for a player. Make your mind up.
ReplyDeleteI WOULD RATHER HAVE SHAQIRI OF BAYERN OR GREIZMANN OF SOCIEDAD
ReplyDeleteChelsea paid almost double that for Willian - and Konoplyanka has a lot more international experience. 20m for Matic? 50 games in the Portuguese league ample experience for you? If you want 'Mata' you'll be paying 37m. Have a bit of enthusiasm as opposed to spewing your nonsense in order to get noticed
ReplyDeletewhat???????????????????????
ReplyDeleteu do some ramblimg mate!!!
That is total negativity about a man who has done wonders so far
i assume u are a secret MUFC supporter
How many assists did Coutinho make before he came to Anfield I wonder? LFC have proved good at developing latent talent and I am confident they will do the same with Konoplyanka if he comes.
ReplyDeleteHis video clips look amazing
ReplyDeleteI believe... its always about the team and how well he gets with others and the position he plays.... if he gets regulars balls from SG,JH,Cot.. he can score and make more assist.. its all depends on the setup....
ReplyDeleteI too think it only slightly inflated, at this time, but remember, 1)its January, 2) The lad has mavssive potential 3) playing down the left with Raheem on the right leaving Coutiniho to play in his natural position in the middle will be awsome 4) he is tricky, strong and very quick and works hard, once he settles in .... well lets wait and see eh....I cannot wait.
ReplyDeleteChelsea paid £16 million for Salah, who is a lot less proven. And as for not having played in a European League, last time I checked Ukraine was still in Europe.
ReplyDeleteTo be honest, you need to do your research mate, you would see we have been tracking him for some time, he was supposed to be a summer buy, he is alongside the buys of Kroos, Shaqiri and Papdopulous in the summer, but because we got trumped in the Salah deal, we have moved forward with the plans to sign him now. There is also some very complimetary stats showing his assist per minute and keys passes per game. I believe its something like 3.9 for dribbles, 1.4 for key passes and something like 2.4 for assists. Lastly apparently there is buyout clause on the player, and i believe thats why its a 16mil quid, because it meets that.
ReplyDeleteTYPICAL NEGATIVITY FROM YOU!! you sure your not an undercover blue nose ?
ReplyDeleteObviously, I mean one of the high quality European leagues.
ReplyDeleteCoutinho cost only £8m, which is a good price for someone of his age/experience/potential.
ReplyDeleteI normally enjoy reading your pieces and very often I agree with what you have to say Jaimie but like all the previous comments above, 16m is not a large amount going on the amounts presently being paid.
ReplyDeleteWe paid this amount for Allen (yet to justify) and yes we paid 8.5 for Coutinho but Milan did not want him and Rogers saw something nobody else did - what a buy it turned out to be !
We obviously can't or won't compete for the big names and so therefore we have to go for "young with potential" and as far as I'm concerned Yevhen has bags of it.
Get him in Rogers and work your magic !
It's not a panic buy. It's been widely documented that Konoplyanka has been a long standing target of ours, and our failure to procure Salah meant that the decision was taken to move for him now rather than in the summer.
ReplyDeleteI also find it laughable that you think Rodgers will get the sack if Konoplyanka doesn't live up to his potential. Rodgers is part of a committee, and so firstly the blame isn't squarely on his shoulders. Secondly, you're talking about a manager who has improved the team beyond all recognition, including getting the best out of players like Henderson and Sterling. We're 15 points better off than we were at this point last year. You think FSG are going to jeopardise and destabilise the club because Rodgers has brought in a couple of duds? Please.
Overpriced? Only time can tell. I can only say that I'm a lot more impressed with our January targets than our summer targets for the past two years.
ReplyDeletemata cost utd twice that
ReplyDeleteFirst off the price is pure speculation. And why would Rodgers job be on the line? Can you explain that? Do you honestly think that he is the one who's taking care of the business??
ReplyDeleteMata cost 40 million pounds plus a ridiculous wage. Utd overpaid big time.
ReplyDeleteSounds like you are already writing off a player who has not even signed for us yet by calling him overpriced. Henderson's pricetag does not look to bad now.
Give the player a chance, he still needs to sign on the dotted line!
You are yet another person who seemingly has trouble comprehending simple English.
ReplyDeleteI never said Rodgers would get the sack, I said his job could be on the line, i.e. he could be under pressure.
Second, you totally ignore the Champions League qualification aspect. I said his job may be on the line if he buys a big money player AND fails to qualify for the CL.
And yes, I believe FSG would make a change if need be. Why not? They are not benevolent philanthropists; they are in it to make money, and another year out of the CL despite spending tens of millions on players will be costly. It's naive to suggest that they will just stick with Rodgers irrespective of where LFC finish in the league.
I sense a disturbance in the force. Schalke has just said Draxler will not move this January. Thus Arsenal are now out of the hunt for their primary target and have a bunch of money to fling around in a hurry. This can't be good for us.
ReplyDeleteThe first player that comes to mind, who matches that description, is Ozil. And he definitely cost Arsenal more than £16M..
ReplyDeleteKonoplyankas potential is worth 16M. HIs best years are ahead of him. You gotta remember he's playing with a poor team in Ukraine. You put Suarez in the Dnipro team right now and even he prob wont be scoring/assisting much either. You get Suarez,Sturridge,Coutinho,Sterling around Konoplyanka and see what happens....he will make it rain out there lol. Quality players need to be playing with other quality players to see their best.
ReplyDeleteWhat is it with people and their simplistic interpretations?
ReplyDeleteI guess I should just tow the company line and have simple, predictable views. In this case: Yes! He'll be a great signing! Or: No! He'll be a crap signing! heaven forbid anyone should look a little deeper than that.
Once again: In the context of Rodgers' transfer business so far, any big money purchase should be scrutinised, and it is only prudent to do that.
Rodgers' performance in the transfer market overall, is pretty poor, and I personally don't have faith in his ability to get it right, especially for this amount of money. Given his previous buys, that is only natural.
If you want to stick your head in the sand and ignore the past, that's your choice.
Damned if they do and damned if they don't!!
ReplyDeleteAlways doom and gloom here, NEVER EVER see anything positive! If we win the league it'll be we didn't score enough volleys, or you didn't like Coutinho's hair, or Gerrards shirt had too many creases in when he picked up the trophy. Then we'll sign Messi for £10 million and your headline will be
"£10 million for injury prone has been. Massive error. Being ripped off?"
No, it might not work out with Konoplyanka, but do you know how hard it is to bring in a Mata-esque player for this money without one of the big guns or oil rich clubs coming in? Also try reading some of Paul Tomkins stuff on transfers and success rate.
(Not returning to read retort unless I get some anti-depressants first!)
About 4 days ago most Liverpool fans were angry and very disgruntled at the way the management dragged their feet over the signing of Selah with the result that Chelsea came me in the last minute and hijacked the deal and signed the player whom Lfc had held negotiation for 2 months. Its rumored they (Chelsea) might have to pay £20m. That player Selah is valued at £11m by Lfc. Now we are being told that the same management are willing to pay the £16m valuation placed on Konoplanka by his club and some fans are raising issues with that, suggesting the player might be overvalued. Yet there are clubs waiting in the wings and ready to hijack yet another Lfc target? Is that desirable to those of us who are "head you loose tail you loose". and actually you can never win with such fans.
ReplyDeletemoreover he's better than salah...and chelsea paid that same amount for salalh so it is cool...lets leave that for BR
ReplyDeleteYou don't have a clue mate. Konoplyanka is a special talent, and a far superior signing to Salah. Don't write anything if you don't know what you're talking about.
ReplyDeleteAnd on Spurs, I hear Holtby wants to leave again. I say get him in.
ReplyDeleteIf your job position is justified by insiting the fans so much that they post (& so look at the adds on your page) then it looks like your plan worked !!!
ReplyDeleteAre you after a deadline transfer also !!! :)
You say 'LFC got stiffed on the Salah deal through the club's own incompetence', but this is pure speculation. How do you know Chelsea had not already shown interest and that Salah favoured that move over LFC? Also, you can't have it both ways, with Salah you're basically saying LFC should have paid more, and with Kono you're saying they're paying too much. Many experts seem to rate Kono above Salah in raw ability/potential, so 16m doesn't seem a ridiculous price compared to the 12m for Salah. If Spurs or Chelsea pay 18m for Kono are you going to say that's gross incompetence by LFC again??
ReplyDelete"Given Rodgers' ineffective use of transfer funds since arriving"....LOL! Come on Jaimie. If Kono signs, we have a player who can play both wings, behind the striker and the #10 role. The price is steep, but Rodgers job will not be in jeopardy. There is a transfer committee and the blame will not fall on Rodgers.
ReplyDeleteRespect your view, obviously, and happy to argue it over again, but remember that many of us, me included, don't feel that the performance of LFC in the transfer market has been "pretty poor".
ReplyDeleteWe've signed a goalkeeper, a central defender, a number 10, and a main striker, all of whom are not only established in the side, but have improved the squad on what we had before, and have been integrated into the group seamlessly.
I'd call that a brilliant performance, actually, better than anyone else in the league, arguably. Go and have a good look at the transfer activity of the other top 10 sides in the PL, not just the headline buys but the ins-and-outs at youth and reserve level, too. Rodgers and his team's hit rate is, relatively, outstanding.
Sorry, but you're just another poster who doesn't get my argument. I haven't argued that LFC should've paid more for Salah; I've question why the club wasn't willing to 'overpay' for Salah, but are now willing to (IMO) overpay for a different player, who doesn't have the creative track record to justify such a high fee.
ReplyDeleteAnd yes, failing to land Salah after 2.5 months of negotiation, and a massive headstart on Chelsea, is incompetence IMO, especially in light of the many players LFC have lost out on in similar circumstances over the last two years.
If it was just Salah, it wouldn't matter, but it's happened before, so a pattern is emerging.
Rodgers' hit rate in the transfer market 'outstanding'? Fair enough if you think that, but it doesn't reflect the reality (in terms of outlay vs success) in any way, shape or form.
ReplyDeleteAdditionally, how is Sakho better than what LFC had before? He's not better than Skrtel or Agger (IMO)
, and he's looked shaky on several occasions.
Jaimie,
ReplyDeleteYou being very harsh with BR, he's not responsible for the negotiations or valuation.
That lays with Ian Ayre who in many ways reminds me of Rick Parry.
The problem has never been addressed since Rafa complained and eventually got rid of Rick Parry in the end.
I'm glad we don't get into bidding wars, as we wouldn't win against Man City & Chelsea.
We are targeting the right calibre of player, pur record in the January window is actually better than the Summer.
FInally none of us here expected the development of the squad or team to where it is now genuinely capable of pushing for a Champions League place as opposed to being hopeful.
Jesus do you ever have anything positive to say? You're hard work dude. Take a break frkm writing and come back to us when you have found happiness again.
ReplyDeleteSo, what you're saying is that Rodgers can never be held accountable for LFC's transfers? He just gets off scot free no matter how badly a player tanks?
ReplyDeleteHow can that be right? I dispute the idea that Rodgers is some 'babe in the woods' who has no input into valuation etc. Logically, he will have most input into the players LFC sign, and it follows that valuation etc will be discussed. If Rodgers thinks a player is overprice, or not worth it, he has a duty to say so.
But you are trying predicting the future.
ReplyDeleteKono could turn out to be another Sturridge. 16 million for a player who we will be drafting into the team straight away is not overpriced and if he is only going to earn 60k a week then that is very shrewd. i bet Salah is earning more than that.
So you want a guy of Mata's level but for £16 million? Pretty sure Moyes would have liked that too but he got Mata and he cost more than double that. This guy has 30 plus international caps and is generally seen as a very talented player, to me £16 million seems a very decent deal. Wasn't Ramos was claiming he was worth £50 million not long ago?
ReplyDeleteBorini, Sahin, Assaidi, Allen, Yesil, Aspas, Alberto, Ilori etc = ineffective use of transfer funds.
ReplyDeleteI knew you were going to have Allen in there. If he was not injured he would be in the team. FACT!
ReplyDeleteThe irony of your post is clearly lost on you.
ReplyDeleteYou say I'm trying to 'predict the future' and then go on to say Kono could be another Sturridge.
That is what fans do: they look at the team and predict what might happen. You do the same, so stop being so hypocritical.
Who cares if Kono gets into the team straight away? Aspas did too, and did nothing; as did Moses. Once again, you refuse to question anything to do with FSG/Rodgers, and take an automatic 'it's a great deal/nothing can go wrong' as a result of your rampant blind faith.
With all due respect, please don't reply to any of my posts from now on. I prefer to discuss things with people who have an open mind, not an inflexible 'the manager can do no wrong' approach, which is intellectually dishonest.
It is not a fact. When Allen was fit earlier in the season, he was still on the bench. He only got into the team due to injuries. The only fact here is that he's made zero impact on the team since signing for £15m in 2012.
ReplyDeleteYou asked : So, what you're saying is that Rodgers can never be held accountable for LFC's transfers?
ReplyDeleteMy Answer: Yes he should be accountable for the players he wants and targets not there valuation or the length of time it takes to negotiate a contract or signing.
You asked: He just gets off scot free no matter how badly a player tanks?
My Answer: Please see previous answer
I have not seen ANYONE IN THIS THREAD calle Rogers ' Babe in the wood'.
Rogers input into the players signed is the targets based on how much money is available.
Rogers has no say in clauses,salary,bonuses,image rights,length of contract.
Thats why the clubs has lawyers, accountants, etc.
Unless I'm mistaken the Managers jobs is to have control of who he wants to buy ..not how much is spent.
Thats reason why when Rogers was approached he didn't want a Director of Football.
What worries me also, is that the Anfield re-development plan is in the news today, is that a diversion, ?? from our transfer woes, ? I hope not.
ReplyDeleteAm I looking through rose tinted glasses by saying Salah may have been a diversion to leave us clear of the Chelsea competetion for our prefered target of Kono !?
ReplyDeleteHey ! things are looking up for us after 5 years out of the top flight, lets walk around with a smile for a change especially after Tuesday - personally I've not stopped smiling since ! :)
Blue noses, "you took one hell of a beating" !!
Ok, you say it should be scrutinised and complain about the price, yet salah took to long and lfc were slated for not bidding more??? I agree that the salah stuff was a joke but they've seemed to have learned a lesson or 2 which can only be a good thing
ReplyDeleteHe looks a very good player and I refuse to be so negative about it. Direct, quick feet, versatile and an eye for goal. There's only one way we're going to find out if he's worth £16 million or not, and for that we either need patience or the ability to time travel..
ReplyDeleteI just read, Voronin says this guy would be perfect for LFC,
ReplyDeleteThats it, i'm heading to the medicine cabinet for a large meal,
P.S: I leave everything to FSG to help with finances.
Borini has helped LFC playing for Sunderland and is getting games and maintaining and increasing his value. Sahin was a loan and was kicked to the curb. Assaidi is helped LFC playing for Stoke and is getting games and maintaining and increasing value Yesil cost 1M and is injured, it happens. What is LFC record when Aspas is in the starting XI. With Aspas, we will lose a little quid, but it hasn't been an absolute disaster. Alberto is getting a game or two and coming off the bench. Alberto is how old?? llori is playing in La Liga and gaining exp. Kolo was a free and doing the job at the back considering his age. Cissikho is on Loan and can be returned. Mignolet is struggling in form right now, but we are in 4th place with 46 points. Allen not making an impact is a disingenuous comment to say the least. His first few months at LFC he was one of the best players on the pitch. He then soldier's on playing with a shoulder injury in which he ends up having surgery.
ReplyDeleteJaimie, i'm sure we have better luck when we buy in the January transfer window , Suarez, Sturridge, Coutinho comes to mind fourth time lucky eh :P .
ReplyDeleteWhy is anything that is not 100% happiness labelled as 'negative'. It's ridiculous, and just shows the utter narrow-mindedness of fans. It is perfectly okay to question things; it is not negative, it is imperative, and widens the discussion outside the ridiculously constrained parameters that so many people are happy to exist within. Seriously, independent thought is outlawed amongst football fans. Typical groupthink collective mentality.
ReplyDeleteInce gone to Palace then...on loan.
ReplyDeleteNO!!! Overated and Overpriced.
ReplyDeleteit probably takes longer trying to get out of the habit of misinterpreting peoples views.
ReplyDeleteMy response below is based on people labelling anything critical as 'negative'.
People who insists in 100% positivity, and denigrate critical/analytical thinking as 'negative' are narrow-minded.
That is the scope of my reply; it is not directed at everyone.
If people take why I write as criticism for the sake of it, that's their problem, not mine. There are very clear recurring themes/motifs that run through everything I write, no matter what the topic, and people who take the time to actually ready things properly will see that.
As such, I don't criticise for the hell of it. There is a set of underlying football-related principles that I believe in, and they are reflected in what I write, so when people rock up moan about negativity, it is short-sighted in the extreme.
If I just made critical comments with no explanation then I'd understand, but I explain in detail every point I make. The problem is, people are so used to thinking a certain way about football (and lots of other things) that when views are espoused that go against their expectation, they attack, and go on the offensive.
Ultimately, it's an ego thing. If I was writing endless articles about how great LFC is, and lionising the players, and finishing every article with 'YNWA' etc, I'd be flavour of the month, and people would be saying I'm an amazing writer and blah blah blah. People love to see what they're thinking reflected elsewhere, as it reaffirms their own self-image/self worth, and when that doesn't happen, it damages their ego, and they don't like it.
Well, tough luck!
The whole point of this site is to take a critical, analytical view of LFC and football in general; people should expect that approach here, yet after over seven years online, people still moan about the site being...critical (!)
So what's your solution Jaimie? Never trust Rodgers again? You seem to have some very forthright views. The lad may be a success, he may not. The success of a transfer can be quite subjective. Jordan Henderson was a flop when Kenny signed him but is considered a good buy now. Tell me, if you had £16m to spend, who would you go for?
ReplyDeleteI think he's as good as both those players, who have also looked "shaky on several occasions" in the course of their careers. Skrtel was like a practical joke of a footballer at the start of last season. I've seen Vincent Kompany have shaky games; Paolo Maldini scoring an own goal from 30 yards; Rio Ferdinand get skinned for pace at his prime; and on and on. Sakho has been very good for us. He needs a good left back to develop an understanding with, and to just work on his temperament a little, and we will probably have one of the top pure centre backs in the league in 3 or 4 years.
ReplyDeleteI did say "relatively" outstanding! I'm not actually that impressed with the transfer dealings of any of the premier league clubs in recent times. I think the managerial changes, the dominance of agents, the blatant dodginess which plagues the game, and the increasing number of vainglorious owners, have really damaged the integrity of the market and there are few clubs who have pursued anything like a systematic, strategic, and effective approach.
The only obvious exceptions are Arsenal and Everton, and both clubs get heavily criticised by their fans for not behaving more like Spurs or Anzhi or whatever. I don't really get it. And then there's Liverpool. I'm a wait-and-see kind of person, but I'm impressed with what's been achieved so far. It makes sense to me. I can see the principles which lie behind it and I approve them. And we really have done very, very well to get in those players and turn them into a team that was top of the table at Christmas.
This player is happy to come by all accounts?, Ian Ayre has flown to Ukraine?......................If this doesn't happen he will get slaughtered by the fans!!!
ReplyDeleteGranit Xhaka, man. Granit. Xhaka. Imagine going through life being called Granit Xhaka. Just thinking his name gets me high.
ReplyDeleteWow the last paragraph r u even a liverpool fan
ReplyDeleteHe didn't say his job "ought" to be on the line, he said it "will" be. He's probably right, too, though I suspect the owners would accept 5th place in reality.
ReplyDeleteGod my posts have got so long. Feel free to ask me to shut up, everyone.
ReplyDeleteThe only problem with all that you've said there Jaimie is that if posters on here offer an alternative view (and as you've said earlier, things are never Black and white) you don't even entertain the possibility that they may have a point. Instead you belittle them and say they don't understand you. Debate is healthy Jaimie so why not take part rather than dismiss anyone not agreeing with you? If you can show me one occasion where you have taken on board someone else's views I'll buy Konoplyanka myself.
ReplyDeleteMy solution is to question things when it's warranted, and not just adopt the view of the wider group for an easy life.
ReplyDeleteIf LFC sign Konoplyanko then great - I'll hope he's a success, but given the alleged transfer fee, and Rodgers' past performance in the transfer market, I feel it's perfectly fair to question his transfer dealings.
We have just about 30 hours left & no news of any player signing yet. My confidence of signing any new player is getting weaker & weaker. However, we might see Aspas being loaned while Agger & Johnson being sold tmro.
ReplyDeleteAgger and Johnson is this just you speculating or is it being reported?
ReplyDeleteThe guy is really fast and is a good dribbler with good technique and vision. He is well built and will not be easily bullied like Aspas. He loves shooting whenever he gets a chance and has a decent passing range. While he will not set anfield alight with extraordinary performances, he is a good player with enough skills to add value to the squad and will be a nice addition. Nowadays 16m is not expensive if you consider the price of Allen, Carroll, Zaha and others...
ReplyDeleteAllen is not a bad buy. The guy has just been unlucky with injuries and has enormous potential. anyone remember his first few matches?? Sahin was a loan acquision while Yesil is a really cheap buy for the reserves which is not needed on this list. Fair enough on Borini and Aspas as they have not lived up to their potential. Assaidi was a peanut buy, while Alberto and Ilori are for the future and unfair to criticize.
ReplyDeletebang on .
ReplyDeleteGive allen 1 more year, This guy will surprise everyone. Mark my words.... He will prove everyone wrong like Lucas and Hendo
ReplyDelete1) We don't have any dedicated left winger.
ReplyDelete2) Will allow Coutinho to play in his best position, AMC
3) Young, decent record and loads of potential.
4) Hardly any other similar player available in the market apart from Shaqiri and Griezmann, both of whom will cost more.
5) We need as many reinforcement as possible, IMO its now or never for LFC to push for top 4.
6) 16mn is not too much money considering today's market. Willian with similar background went for 35mn.
7) I HOPE LEGEND AYRE DOES IT AGAIN!!...........NOT
Allen was recovering from injury. If he did not get injured again recently he would be in the starting eleven just like when Rodgers replaced lucas with Allen. Allen will ba back in business once he recovers again. I will be proven right.
ReplyDeleteC'mon Jaimie, Roger's isn't the guy doing the deals, you know that. It's Ayre. Rogers has a say in which players to bring in but after that he doesn't get to sanction how much money is spent. You make it sound like he's solely responsible for player selection and the price we end up paying for signing them up! You don't like the guy that's fine but we all know you're a smart enough to differentiate between Rogers and the other members of the transfer board/business men within LFC.
ReplyDeleteAnd I thought it was a matter of opinion.
ReplyDeleteLike I said yesterday, our opinions on anything to do with LFC are on a totally different wavelength.
Clearly not many on here agree with this article.
Come on Jamie you know you want to.......
ReplyDeleteSpurs have told porkies before on "not signing a player" Liverpool were interested in but they did. Whatever don't over pay.
ReplyDeleteTom Ince comes with too much baggage - Paul Ince he would be demanding wage parity for his son with Suarez after 3 months.
ReplyDeleteYou have to admit this "unspecified" injury to Johnson leaving him out for an "unspecified" amount of time is at least a little suspicious. Same with Agger, there have been injury updates for Sakho, Allen, and others,but none for Agger.
ReplyDeleteNot saying it won't happen, but it's a little fishy. For all I care, Johson can go.
His speed and dribbling remind me a little of Hazard. If he comes, steps up to the plate, there's no doubt his value will increase.
ReplyDeleteOyston at Blackpool made sure Liverpool got no money for Ince as did his Dad their Relegation would be just rewards.
ReplyDeleteHe was Chelsea player of the year twice,on one of those seasons they won Champions League,the other,they won the Europa League
ReplyDeleteWHAT ABOUT THE CM ATLEAST ONE GUY SHOULD BE SIGNED I KNOW HENDO AND STEVIE HELD IT DOWN VS EVERTON BUT CAN WE EXPECT THAT FROM CITY OR CHELSEA. SAW THAT FREAKIN FERNANDO IS GOING TO CITY PROBABLY FOR 4 MIL AND CITY LOANEE, UNLESS AYRE IS GOING TO MAKE A QUICK TRIP TO RUSSIA FOR MVILLA THEN COOL BUT COMMON LETS GET ANOTHER MID. LFC YNWA TIA.
ReplyDeleteI've not seen any quotes from Johnson (or Agger) for some time now either. I would not be entirely surprised if they were both eased out. I expect they are among the higher wage earners.
ReplyDeleteEuro League performance :
ReplyDelete12/13: 9 games 3 goals 3 assists
13/14: 6 games 3 goals 3 assists
He's a winger not a cam. And liverpool cant sign player like mata because who wants to go 2 a club that doesnt play champions league or even euro league? Even if Liverpool can finish top 4. Can they finish next season top 4 too?
ReplyDeleteI prefer to see a player in action to be honest,stats are murky at best i.e. a player may pass side or backwards and the total is 300 yards but not one attacking move came from this array of passes.I much prefer to see them live where you can importantly hear them also or even on TV where you can judge their body language.I truly believe statistics are fine for automatons not human beings.
ReplyDeleteShankly's famous line to Keegan was 'Show us your medals,son'.This may be something that is borne in mind with many of our staff,both on and off the park.
ReplyDeleteJohnson is supposedly the 3rd or 4th top earner after Suarez, Gerrard, Maybe Reina. Somethink like $90 000 a week if we are to believe the media. That must be like 10 flanagans.
ReplyDeleteThe thing is Konoplanyak is obviously a very good player. He's seemingly coming to Liverpool. Yet, as a Liverpool fan, you don't seem to be happy that a very good player is joining the team you support.
ReplyDeleteUnderstand that for many people on this site, it is quite hard to understand.
Also, if we were planning on keeping Johnson then surely his contract would have been renewed by now.
ReplyDeleteMoses has not been very effective and Coutinho is not a winger naturally. He does better playing from the centre behind a striker. We need tested and trusted players to make top four. Konoplyanka is far better than Moses who is set to go back to Chelsea at the end of the season.
ReplyDeleteVoronin was Ukranian player of the year in 2011.
ReplyDeleteJust sayin'.
Excuse my maths here but sticking to the £8 million minimum bid price for Salah has now been increased by 100% with little or no interference from Chelsea or Spurs.It's bad enough being turned over by other clubs but now we're majestically and successfully shooting ourselves in the foot,and not for the first time with this smart-alec stalling practise.
ReplyDeleteSo you consider the Swiss league to be a high quality league?
ReplyDeleteIt's not the 'January' window but a three day lucky(unlucky) dip.
ReplyDeleteKono is the new Sturridge at £16m but isn't Salah the new Messi at £11m.Makes you think I bet.
ReplyDeleteI'm afraid he'd be this season's Sahin.
ReplyDeleteWhy shout?
ReplyDeleteI believe his comparison to Xavi(oh how I promised never to utter) is based entirely on statistics but hey folks go to the live show(or even TV) and then a very different scenario emerges.
ReplyDeleteJohnson won't sign a new contract, it includes a pay cut, it's time to move him on id say
ReplyDeleteHas anyone seen Konoplyanka's missus?
ReplyDeleteDamn...
If we keep giving him 'one more year' next thing it'll be his testimonial season and I can't see that putting Ticketmaster into overdrive.
ReplyDeleteIt would have been good if you had mentioned footballing ability.
ReplyDeleteMourinho wouldn't sell a ball boy or programme seller to Liverpool for that price.
ReplyDelete:-) To be fair I didn't think I was misrepresenting your views merely suggesting that it's possible that's how other people see it?
ReplyDeleteFirstly, it's good of you to take the time to give such a full response... and it is obvious you put a lot of hard work into this site....but it doesn't really explain why you see yourself as an independent thinker and others as narrow-minded?
I don't think it's really that cut and dried.
People here generally don't insist on "100 per cent positivity" as far as I can see and as far as I'm aware only Logan has given 100 per cent unequivocal backing in every facet of the club, which is entirely up to him.
You say to me it was not "directed at everyone" but your response to Ash talked about fans "in general".
It's not that people insist on 100% positivity but maybe they see more to be positive about the club than you?
That doesn't make them unthinking.....they may well have thought deeply about it and just disagree with your analysis....you say it's of huge value to critique the club but seem to dismiss refusal to accept it as "groupthink" or at other times simply denigrate them...yesterday was a case in point with the subservient lapdog stuff.
Personally, I've found it difficult to take in the past and stopped visiting but have recently come back as I had a bit of a "revelation" I imagined you sat in The Sandon or The Park with a pint....instead of just enjoying the contents, or even pondering whether the glass was half full or half empty you were simply pissed off because it wasn't a pewter tankard...since then I've enjoyed every minute of visiting it again. Keep it up. :-)
Good for him,bit of a career,scenery and lifestyle change from Monaco but hey,who are we to ponder?
ReplyDeletejaimie you are a complete co ck.
ReplyDeleteGriezmann supposedly to PSG not FSG.
ReplyDeleteCUZ A LIL NIGGA BE FROM THE KILLA CALI WERE THE STATE MURDAS, AND IM PASSIONATE LFC FAN HAVE THEM SIRENGED ACCROSS MY CHEST AND I WANT TO BE ABLE TO REP TO ALL THEM QUEER ASS "MAN WHO" , "CHELSKI" AND "BABY GUNNERS" OVER HERE THAT THEY ARE FAIR WEATHER FANS AND DONT EVEN SUPPORT THEIR TEAM AS HARD AS LFC FANS DO. AND WTF THIS AINT NO FREAKIN OFFICE SOUNDING LIKE MY BOSS TALKING ABOUT TPS REPORTS AND ISH.
ReplyDeleteIf there's one reason to sign this cat, he's already got ready made chant. Ready?
ReplyDeleteKono
Kono-Kono
Kono-Kono
Kono-Kono --Kono!
Plyanka
Plyanka-Plyanka
Plyanka-Plyanka
Playnka-Playnka - Plyanka!
And so on.
I have actually given Rodgers stick a couple of times this season.
ReplyDeleteThe Lucas/Gerrard partner ship was driving me up the wall, clearly it was not working and got very frustrated when Rodgers was persisting with it. Glen Johnson should have been dropped long time ago..
I also can't understand why Rodgers has not given Toure/Sakho or Sakho/Agger chance as our CB partnerships this season have not been good enough.
I am extremely positive about LFC nowadays and have very good reasons to be but that does not mean I see everything as being perfect.
Uno palomo blanca? springs to mind for some reason.
ReplyDeleteYou're watching re-runs of "Duty Free".
ReplyDeleteFair enough fella.....there ya go then there are some things we can ALL point to.
ReplyDeleteGrant you I'm sad but not that sad!
ReplyDeleteDamn....and there I was just about to offer you fan club membership 0002!
ReplyDeletewhy are we going for more wingers when the bid need is at defensive midfield, even with a healthy Lucas?
ReplyDeleteThank you, you've helped me clear up a mystery that I never quite understood - eddy murphy's "Buckwheet Sings" - he had "una banuna banka"(see youtube), never got the reference.
ReplyDeleteI could sort of see it going to that rythm.
I actually like the look of Sakho, he wins his headers and can actually deal with the physical side, unlike Agger who for as much as I think is a great footballer gets bullied by big target men. I agree bout Yarmelenko being overpriced though. Would much rather see that money go on M'villa.
ReplyDeleteSurely it's got to be based on "Copacobana" in some way.
ReplyDeleteI can hear it now... "Kono, Konoplyanka..."
We have put in a bid. Get with the times.
ReplyDeleteyou need to learn how transfers work !
ReplyDeleteEnlighten me...
ReplyDeleteIf you are suggesting FSG would get rid of Rodgers for missing out on CL, you are just stirring. Or we have all been deceived as to the state of their sanity. We would have to miss CL and fall back catastrophically next season for that to even become a possibility on the horizon - and even then I think it would be a mistake given all he has demonstrated so far.
ReplyDelete1)you bid for a player
ReplyDelete2) the club either accept or reject
3) if accepted negotiations with player, if rejected or another club bids higher you either move on our bid higher
its all really simple
put in a offer the other club like , and player likes , if you can get him then its not meant to be
no more useless "talks" we have been talking to salah for two and a half months , as with mkhitaryan
but chelsea and dourtmount just made a formal bid and got their man
Sahin walked straight into b dortmond he was played out of position it was a mistake on our behalf but da rest I agree
ReplyDeleteAnd I thought you were going to give a more detailed explanation than this :-o
ReplyDeleteI think that is exactly right. It is so easy to look at statistics and read too much in to them, given that they are not given necessary support by team mates. My impression of Ukrainian football is a of a cagey, defensive style similar to the Italian game which probably isn't conducive to spectacular statistics.
ReplyDeleteThe main point here though is nobody can know for sure how any signing is going to work out. Even proven players flop in the wrong team or surroundings. So why should anyone be certain one way or another whether one player will be a success or what their true value is?
26 games this season 9 goals 6 assists. 1916 mins played.
ReplyDeleteIncluding 3 goals and 3 assists in 6 Europa league games.
second line:
ReplyDelete'The best player west of Lyubyanka'
Probably too cruel...forget it.
Most of them need time and Allen did impress early but yes there is still waste there the use of Sahin was awful.
ReplyDeleteYeah that's better
ReplyDeleteHaha, that's not really what happens in transfers! It's takes months and you have to pay all kinds of people in all kinds of different ways, and there's loads of bitching and backstabbing, and bribes of various kinds to various people, and you have to buy houses for everyone's granny, and promise to buy some shite player from somewhere because he's the nephew of someone's tennis partner's girlfriend's insurance broker and at the middle of it all is some usually pretty thick and uninterested "footballer" who might change his mind about anything at any minute. Read a book about football transfers, or talk to an agent for 10 minutes, you'll learn a lot!
ReplyDeleteWouldn't a player who has Juan Mata's assists capabilities cost 37 million like Juan Mata did? I think this solidifies the front three and allows Rodgers to rest Sterling a bit as last year it was clear the kid had run out of gas as the season wore on. It will also let Coutinho permanently move into the middle where he showed he against Everton that's the perfect place for him.
ReplyDeleteprobably.
ReplyDeleteineffective use of transfers,?, my god look at benitez spending and all the crap players he brought in out of the 40+players!!!,, Rodgers hasn't been backed or allowed get players he wants,, the most he has been allowed to spend on one player is 15mil!!! he is only season and half at anfield got us playing the best football ive seen since the late 80's and we have only been outscored by the huge wealth and talent of man city! he has been royally shafted in three of the four transfer windows,,and yet we are only 7 points from top of the league! with major injuries to our top 5-6 players this season,, what a nonsense comment whoever you are, absolutely nonsense,, what can he do he wanted Michtaryan and also Costa in the summer and look how they are doing now!! He is doing brilliant job,, wake up.
ReplyDeletei agree with you, coutinho isn´t a winger, but the reason i menationed him, whenever he is playing centrally either suarez or sturridge will play on the wing, shifting positions all the time
ReplyDeletei think it is extremely hilarious that Liverpool did not close the deal on the Mohammed Salah transfere simply because he was considered too pricey and are now about to pay more money for another player right before deadline day.
ReplyDeleteBrendan Rodgers and his staff in their infinite wisdom thought Salah was too expensive at the 15 million he was offered to them. Now Rodgers is desperate to sign anyone before the close of the transfer window midnight Friday night. Their target man is a 24 year old Ukrainian who will cost them 16million. Yes! that's right we are looking to pay more for Mr Konoplyanka who in my opinion is a big gamble than we were willing to pay for Salah. Konnoplyanka might turn out to be a good player or the best kept secret from the Ukranian league or he might come in to our league and suck. The reality is that he is an unknown factor while Muhammed Salah a known talent. Everybody knew his skills set and what he was capable of after watching him in the champion's league. That is why Chelsea made their move and was able to snatch him at the last minute by offering the player a better personal terms to sit on their bench.
It looks like Rodgers has dropped the ball once again and is now caught up in a desperate last minute scramble to save face. If he had only acted quickly and decisively in the pursuit of Salah the Egyptian would be playing for us and not waiting to get a game on the Chelsea bench.
I am not convinced that Mr Konoplyanka is a better player than Salah but i hope that if we do indeed sign him he can come in and make an immediate impact in our first team. We need to bring in quality talent and no more bench warming squad players like we did in the summer of 2013.
If he does get here, you can compare the two's stats at the end of the season. My money is on the 3 time Ukranian player of the year every time over the egyptian magician,
ReplyDeleteJamie, who would you like to see manage Liverpool? Martinez? Because you obviously don't like Brendan. (You going to answer or delete this as you usually do?)
ReplyDeleteTotally agree with you. Just as fast as Salah but stronger physically and with a better shot. Much better suited to the physicality of the Premiership than Salah. And like you said: THREE times player of the year out of the last four years! And just because it's not that a glamorous league, it still means he was voted better than every other player last year too. (Including Mkhitrayen and Yarmalenko!)
ReplyDeleteKono is Just as fast as Salah but stronger physically and with a better shot. Much better suited to the physicality of the Premiership than Salah. And another point: he was voted THREE times player of the year out of the last four years! And just because it's not that a glamorous league, it still means he was voted better than every other player last year too. (Including Mkhitrayen and Yarmalenko!)
ReplyDeletewhy would one of the best young managers jobs be on the line when all he has done is taken liverpool forward and got them to be one of the most exciting teams to watch?? and lets be honest since when is salah a proven product, lets say like mata was in spain and for spain, and how much was mata? would the likes of mata come to us? when we dont flash the cash that we dont have.
ReplyDeletehow on earth are expecting a proven player like mata to join us for around 16mill??
unless your doing the job lfc scouts are doing i dont follow your point to be honest.
just out of interest if your right jk and rodgers gets his man because hes in a panic!! and turns out to be a flop.
who would do a better job?
and by the way you love your stats, joe allen had great stats before joining surly he should of been a definate success.
out of interest what are salahs stats like?
I don't know about Cissokho...he's strange but I don't think he's as bad a defender as the rap he gets on this thread. Note that doesn't consider his attacking play...which always leaves me in near cardiac arrest. I don't have an answer for the best available DM in the next 24 hours either because the qualifiers are: who is available, how good are they and can we get them in the next 24 hours. These aren't hypotheticals. These are real constraints and considering our need compromises may be in order.
ReplyDeletealso also like to add that this is all media talk, nothing proven, mvilla and dejong joining to !!! oh and luke shaw!!
ReplyDeletedid laugh when media saying we were going head to head with chelsea in a bidding war for salah and we had bid up to 20 mill,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,then joins chelsea for 11mill !! we will be linked with a couple of others.
we obviously inquire about a lot of players that we never get to hear about so i do think lfc have been trying. come end of the season salah is a massive hit, then the board deserve some stick in all fairness
I think it is hilarious that you are one ugly SOB. Did it ever occur to you that Konoplyanka is more expensive because he's more developed? Of coarse not. Judging by your comments, you have no common sense. And if you think Salah is a known talent and Konoplyanka isn't then you don't watch much football. Both are known talents. That's why he's been scouted for several years since Euro 2012.
ReplyDeleteI agree with everything you said...especially the first part. I have been astonished at the number of one-touch volley passes in the MF that go plonging off into nowhere, the 50-50 air balls that get headed back the other way with no thought of where the ball is going, and the out-and-out lack of hustle to many 50-50 balls. Sometimes it is embarrassing to watch.
ReplyDeleteI have no rebuttals except my original point that we are terribly thin in the DM department and need the help. With 24 hours to go until no help at all until Summer, I am all for signing the best DM available in the next 24 hours. If we get UCL football and he is nothing but a squad player, sell him or loan him this Summer...but we need somebody now.
My choice is not Kono OR a DM. I think Kono...if we actually DO get him to Anfield...is a great signing. I want a SECOND MF to play DM if we need him...for the WBA match.
So for Salah:
ReplyDelete- We took too long, acted too slowly
- Undervalued the player, were not willing to pay the "reasonable" price
- Chelsea acted quickly and paid the full amount asked and got the player
Now for Konoplyanka:
- We're acting too quickly and getting the deal done in too short a time
- Overvaluing the player and are willing to pay an inflated price
- Will complete the deal for a player who might end up being a flop
I'm going to have start calling you Goldilocks, because it seems you're never going to be satisfied until everything is "just right".
I think you might be right. Salah will sit on the bench at Chelsea while Kono will be given an immediate chance to make an impact. If Konoplyanka's stats at the end of the season are not vastly superior to Salah's I will eat my hat.
ReplyDeleteI wish I were younger, I would have named one of my sons Granit Xhaka.
ReplyDeleteI think you are confusing what the average fan has seen vs what a scouting team and PL manager would know about a player. Just because Salah has had a few high profile moments in the Champions League does not make him a better player. It makes him a player that pundits can more easily recognise and, by doing less homework, come to the easy conclusion that he's the better option. There is no question that Liverpool have scouted and researched both players equally and those few CL games for Basel are a drop in the ocean of what data you could get on Salah. Thankfully Liverpool will have evaluated both players on all the information available and if they honestly think Konoplyanka is worth spending the extra money then I'm going to go with their judgement over yours.
ReplyDeleteHe looked pretty darn good against the 3 Lions team.
ReplyDeleteThere is nothing to say Salah will be a success he will be lucky to get get a run at Chelsea.
ReplyDeleteDont know enough about Konoplyanka to make a comment on his value but that Luzhnys comments are a worry.
No.
ReplyDeletegone to Swansea on loan
ReplyDeleteMilner?
ReplyDeleteNope I think BR will play Sterling and Kono together. Nevermind wingbacks just use proper wingers and proper fullbacks.
ReplyDeleteRomulo is the kind of mid-fielder we need. He's like a Craig Johnstone with more skills.
ReplyDeleteA useful article:
ReplyDeletehttp://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/jan/30/chelsea-links-third-party-ownership
Just so you peeps can get a handle on one of the levels of complexity that's involved in football transfers, how many people are looking for a payday when huge amounts of currency are being transferred across national borders for a commodity as apparently simple as a footballer's contract.
Kopo is a great buy. He's a proven international and looked very good in Euro 2012 and last years World Cup qualifiers. How big a stage do you have to prove yourself on before you become a valuable player. I can see he fits to LFC. BR can set up with both him and Sterling and get Philippe into his better position. Philippe will be in mid-field as an advanced player directly behind SAS. Gerrard and Hendo more defensive. Proper fullbacks instead of wing-backs. I love the possibility of playing with 2 specialist wingers. It may be old school but it will surely be exciting to watch and give opposing managers a real headache in how to set up against us. If Sakho a fringe international is worth 19m then Kopo is an astute buy at 16m playing in a team that is probably better than the current French team. On a further note it is pleasing that the comments demanding a long term replacement for Gerrard have subsided. IMO he's already been bought a couple of seasons ago his name is Henderson. Will be the future captain of LFC and England as people with more nouse than us have predicted for some time. Sure he doesn't have Gerrard's dead ball skills but when Gerrard was absent from the team I really saw Hendo perform Gerrard's role admirably. Lads the future looks good glass half full.
ReplyDeleteHe's no secret a proven international and probably the best Ukraine player in the international team. Just go back and watch him play against England last year and in Euro 2012 where he was one of the best players in the competition. He's all class much more proven than Salah. Salah has done nothing playing in the Swiss league and for Egypt against much lower class opposition. Salah was a gamble and at 15m not worth the gamble. Kono is not a gamble he's a proven player of great class there is a big difference. It's about time LFC paid the money for class instead of gambling with cheaper players. We all should be lauding the club for this kind of signing. Now bring on Romulo and we will be right in the mix for winning the league although Man C probably have that in the bag.
ReplyDeletegonna play with 2 wingers I think.
ReplyDelete2 bids actually first was 14.8m then when Spurs came sniffing put in another at 16m which it seems has been accepted. Get with the times man please post with knowledge.
ReplyDelete16m was accepted.
ReplyDeleteI don't even think it's a gamble. Really astute purchase in IMO.
ReplyDeleteUkraine girls really knock me out they leave the west behind hahaha
ReplyDeletepoints 1-6 bang on mate
ReplyDeleteHope Johnson will be sold while he still has some value.
ReplyDeletewish we had Mirallas instead of Allen.
ReplyDeleteI agree with your points except the one stating we are over paying for Kono. 16m is a good price for a player that is already proven. Maybe the Ukraine league is not so strong but he is the best player in that league and his international form is unquestionable. I'm excited to see LFC playing with 2 wingers. We are gonna tear defenses up.
ReplyDeleteI think you're right. If we had of gone for Kono first Chelsea would have bought him especially with Roman's liking for Russian and Ukraine players. We may have out thought bloody Chelsea and it's about time we became as cunning as the other clubs that have been f....ing us over in the past.
ReplyDelete16 million on Joe Allen,20 million on Downing, 20 million on Henderson, 35 million on Carroll!!!! How can 16 million on a 24 year old proven talent be too expensive.Pay the fee and get him in.
ReplyDeletewhat's Yarmelenko got to do with it????
ReplyDeleteWell you go pay the money for them.
ReplyDeleteThen go to youtube and watch him against England last year and Euro 2012
ReplyDeleteAgree wholeheartedly.
ReplyDeleteSplitting hairs are we Jamie.
ReplyDeleteYou are right. Mata may not do the job at UTD, although at present anybody could improve that lot.
ReplyDeleteSpot on.
ReplyDeleteOr to the theme song of 'Flipper'
ReplyDeleteThey call him Kono, Kono
Konoplyanka
None on Chelski
Is better than he
And we know Kono makes Manu look like some wankers
Leaves Gunners wishing they'd signed him first
Never seen the guy play but somehow it doesn't have the feel of a "Marquis" signing.............guess Ibe will finally play at midfield since we have fumbled away so many proven guys we were ahead of the pack of over the last two windows.......I would be thrilled if he gets his chance. Flanno has worked out well so maybe less is more again.....
ReplyDeleteHe is Kono! Konoplyanka!
ReplyDeleteHe's cutting inside your right flanker!
I agree couldn't agree with you more. As soon as Gerrard was out Jordy had stepped up. It was argued by many even in King Kenny's days that the squad was better without Gerrard. I would never go that far but I too think the future is bright. Time for a new pair of Ray-Bans!
ReplyDeleteI am guessing that Salah just like Sigurdsson will be a bench warmer at best for Chelsea, these underachieving London clubs have tried repeatedly to undermine LFC but all they have managed to do is ensure senior management become much smarter in their transfer dealings, by keeping both the media/pundits and opposition in the dark until the last minute.
ReplyDeleteNow if they can only drag out a few more potential wannabees and possible transfers it could send the likes of Tottenham, Chelsea and Arsenal broke, that really would be amusing.
You should be more worry for man utd than liverpool now.
ReplyDeleteNot really Jaimie. Assists are very different to goals in that you can create loads of great chances but if your teammates don't put them away they don't become assists. If he makes as many chances as he has at Dnipros, our vastly superior finishers, especially the SaS, will put them away and up goes his assists count for doing exactly the same thing!
ReplyDeleteIf Liverpool can finish top four with the small squad we've got now, of course we can with a bigger squad. We have a far greater balance of quality in this side. People have accused us over theast few years of being a one or two man team and with some justification but that is no longer the case. We have the best strike partnership in the prem, we have a top goalkeeper, some quality defenders (need another I grant you) and plenty of quality in midfield with just one more needed centrally (arguably). This is not a squad of one season wonders that's for sure!
ReplyDeleteSo it is deadline day! Hoping we can seal the deal...
ReplyDeletehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0u5OVCNoI_M&feature=youtu.be
Maybe our interest in Salah was a smokescreen to get our real target.
ReplyDeleteIf Konoplyanka does sign for us then hopefully he takes the EPL by storm!
Touché!
ReplyDeleteIf you are blinkered enough to believe the club has just been sitting there for 28 days and just suddenly jumped into life then you are incredibly naive as to the inner machinations of professional football! Just because you only hear about it when your daily rag gets hold of it doesn't mean that's when it started. We have been working on this buy for months and he was hopefully earmarked as a summer purchase but we have progressed it more quickly as we need a left winger. Not rocket science mate!
ReplyDeleteShut up!
ReplyDeleteJust kidding, I enjoyed what you said :0)