14 Aug 2013

Great News: Journo claims Suarez has denied reports he wants LFC stay. Hoax...?

Last night, horrifying news circulated that Luis Suarez had changed his mind about ditching Liverpool and now planned to stay at the club for the foreseeable future. Given the Uruguayan's sustained and unapologetic disrespect of LFC over the last two months, the only acceptable endgame (IMO) is for him to leave, and thankfully, it appears that Suarez's comments about staying may not be 100% true.

Last night, journalist Martin Charquero tweeted the following:

“Luis Suarez confirms to me he will not leave Liverpool.

"The support of the fans has influenced his decision,"

"Suarez see it as likely that he'll sign a renewal (extension) to the contract that binds him to Liverpool."


Well, Rafael Hernandez, another football journalist, tweeted the following an hour ago:

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High profile Mirror journalist John Cross retweeted Hernadez's tweet, which suggests it could be true:

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Hundreds of people on twitter also claim that they've seen a live Sky Sports report today that claims:

* Suarez does NOT want to stay at Liverpool.
* The reports of his alleged quotes are false.
* He still refuses to apologise.

Ultimately, it boils down to this: The whole 'Suarez staying' story has spread like wildfire based on the tweet of a journalist, and now another journo is claiming the opposite. Which is true? I hope and pray that Hernandez's tweet is correct, and Suarez still hopes to leave Liverpool.

Of course, there's always the possibility that it isn't true, but I don't see why this journalist would lie.



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163 comments:

  1. Mr. Point Of View3:09 pm, August 14, 2013

    hahahaaa i like the way u JK saying it "GREAT NEWS"...
    After those spec about LS U-turn really annoy me..
    What so difficult to make a decision to sell him anyway???

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  2. The journalist is the same guy who tweeted 3 weeks back that Suarez is going to sign for Arse and will make a push for it.

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  3. JK. I would check Mr. Hernandez's twitter account, because he is apologizing for the tweet - apparantely made up by arsenal fans, and is a lie.
    True story. Check it.

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  4. I hope he leaves. Honestly he could have done things very differently than opening his mouth like he has done.
    I doubt he'll leave though. I can understand not wanting to sell to Arsenal or another PL club thought, but who apart from the Spanish, French and German big boy can afford the £50M+ price tag?

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  5. Come on Jamie, get over it! He is staying, because LFC doesn't want to sell. Simple as that! I say let's look for a proper replacement while qualifying for CL this season and sell him in the summer.

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  6. I state in the article it may not be true. I'm just passing on the info. Literally hundreds of people are tweeting that Sky Sports stated the same thing, so we'll just have to wait and see.

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  7. this pathetic excuse for the opinoin of lfc fans me f****ing angry keep your stupid remarks to your self, it's so called networks like your self who cause so much ill feeling, you are not the voice of the real fans.

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  8. John Cross has always advocated Suarez to Arsenal this whole summer. Lets see what Suarez and LFC says!

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  9. Re your other deleted comment: If you can't post in a civil manner then you'll be banned.

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  10. its a shambles from top to bottom anyhow....nobody is coming out of this for the better...like ive posted this saga has plenty of twists and turns yet

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  11. just watched ssn and he said he will be staying at liverpool

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  12. So why is it a great news again?

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  13. What other deleted comment? This above is my first ever on your website. I really can't see anything rude in what I wrote.

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  14. Suarez actually spoke on camera saying he would stay at LFC? Or, did SSN simply report what's already going around?

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  15. im at the stage where i don't believe anything in regards to liverpool any more..from the players or the management so im just going to carry on making sh*t up as most of it comes true

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  16. Steven did the words actually come from his own mouth or not?

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  17. The journo you have quoted has just issued an apology on his twitter account saying he got it wrong as he trusted an Arsenal source. It's time we just accept that Luis is staying and get behind the team.

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  18. well if they did it doesn't count anyway or have we leaned nothing on verbal commitments

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  19. Sorry about that. Due to a disqus glitch (so many of them!), this other comment appeared under your name. It's now appeared under a different name. My bad.

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  20. just a report Jamie, but they also reported the there has been no apology yet

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  21. Oh, that's ok. No problem mate.

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  22. Thanks. You did say though that 'he said he will be staying at LFC' :-)

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  23. Did you edit it? Just skimmed through, thought I'd let you know.
    Cheers

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  24. Because it would mean Suarez still wants to leave, and for me, that is the best news possible.

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  25. Hahaha I see!

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  26. jamie even if he says he wants to stay i think the general concensus is he wants to leave

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  27. its hard to believe anything, so much crap going round best just sit back and let it do its thing

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  28. same report that doing the rounds all over

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  29. I can get behind the team without accepting that Suarez is staying.

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  30. just having a chuckle at your headlines jamie...the news that he may want to stay is hardly horrifying...we are talking about football still arnt we

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  31. At this stage, he's got the PC brigade, the fairplay brigade, the entire African continent, some Liverpool fans, and pretty much all other english fans (minus some hopeful arsenal fans) against him. Pretty soon he'll have environmentalists coming out blaming Suarez for the murder of Trees! Entire forests have been cut down in order to print garbage stories on the guy. The madness has to stop!

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  32. He should only be allowed leave when we say so! I'd love it if we bought a couple of proper players made CL and then just sold the pr**k to a club IN the CL but in the arsehole of nowhere.

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  33. entire african continent lol priceless

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  34. that sounds like arsenal to me ..the thought of living in london

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  35. Check it he said sorry it was made up

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  36. Haha good one the first time I skimmed through that could have sworn it said the 'murder of Tevez' :)

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  37. you can get behind the team whilst praying suarez leaves fine i have no problem with that ,they are loads i want to leave from players upwards

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  38. My favorite part of the story was that he was actually considering signing a contract extension!


    High comedy!

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  39. So many people are wrapped up with suarez, they forget the most important thing. Liverpool Football club. Its the club who call the shots. Not this attention seeker.

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  40. About 95% of transfer stories aren't true - however, I'd give some credit to a Uruguayan journalist, as they tend to have a little more integrity than British papers. 1) He actually speaks to the Uruguayan press, 2) they usually state their sources. It would be highly doubtful if there wasn't some truth to this.

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  41. It's the same at all clubs, not just LFC. We just happen to be part of one of this summer's interminable transfer sagas is all

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  42. Wouldn't be surprised - more money, comparable to a wage that would be offered by other clubs for his services, and a proper get out clause - on condition of not making champions league. That would be fair - it would apease Suarez, making him happy to play, and allow the club cash in big should they not make CL - say a 60M release club as long as they don't make CL. Suarez is happy, Liverpool is happy -CL chances are much better this way.

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  43. Lol, this is becoming comical......one minute the fanbase is in turmoil yet again with the "news" that Suarez said he is staying & rumours of a new contract.....the next minute the "news" comes in that he has now said he never said that.....& that he doesn't want to stay.....people getting het up & arguing the toss about this & that......thus the Suarez show continues to rumble on, leading the fans of both Liverpool & Arsenal a merry old dance, goodness me, when will my Club be free to get on with its business in a quiet dignified manner, without being unsettled by wantaways with the agenda of seemingly sticking it to us when they leave.....?


    What the hell have we done wrong to deserve this shit? Torres, last minute.....leaving us with fcuk all time to properly replace him.....Mereiles....also, Masch......


    Don't get me wrong i can understand a player wanting to move on esp if its for his ambitions or dreams etc but surely we have been fcuked with once too often by the manner in which these wantaways go about their move..........


    & its alright for us to blame FSG or the manager of the moment but seriously....Suarez has reduced his options (behaviour...) and price tag...(behaviour) all himself.....his own doing.....& has a lengthy ban as well....after serving a lengthy ban the previous season.....anyone thinking that all this hasn't damaged the Club is bonkers, of course it is going to be difficult to replace these players esp when they seem to have an agenda of fcuking us before they leave....or at least trying to....


    People complaining that we can't attract top players, stuck with mid table mediocrity etc but who's fault is that? Is Suarez not damanging our chances of securing some top talent by going to the press....that he wants out & that our manager has basically double crossed him......


    I mean come on ffs, lets at least look at the bigger picture for once.....Suarez's timing simply couldn't be any better in terms of damaging the appeal for potential targets to be brought in.....a few days away from the start of the season & here we still are being distracted.....by the ongoing antics of Luis Suarez....


    Please, Liverpool fan's, just get behind our manager & team, forget Suarez, stay positive, don't be quick to jump on this negative bandwagon that Suarez is peddling.....hopefully we will get rid before the window closes & have a good enough squad to be competitive for the oncoming season.


    & Fcuk Suarez!

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  44. I know it's a huge generalisation, there is some excellent reporting done by british media - however there are so many british rags, that the bulk of reporting is fluff.

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  45. liverpool4life5654:05 pm, August 14, 2013

    If he stays great, if he goes then owell, we are LFC. No player is bigger than us. But great news regarding siqueira that deal is close :-)

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  46. At the moment it appears nobody has a cue what is going on.

    There are so many people jumping on the Suarez bandwagon to get themselves noticed its utter madness

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  47. It's part of the game. We've experienced it in the past with Torres and other clubs have had it worse than us. The important thing is supporting the team not individuals. As long as a player gives 100% (unlike Torres) and the club dictate terms then what's the issue with accepting Suarez is staying?

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  48. You don't see why THIS journalist would lie, but by mutual exclusion, one of them is lying. Why are you choosing to believe the one that's saying what you want to hear?


    I guess that question answers itself.

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  49. That's human nature. You cannot question the laws of nature.
    Until Suarez interviewed with DT 90% of journos said he wants to leave, but LFC fans chose to believe the other 10%. Now its the otherway around. You gotta deal with it.

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  50. Just googled "Martin Charquero" and a whole plethora or articles by and profiles of the renowned journalist came up.

    Then I googled "Rafael Hernandez", "Rafael Hernandez journalist", "Rafael Hernandez football" and "Rafael Hernandez soccer"


    Absolutely nothing comes up.

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  51. Lets get some facts right. Suarez only chose Arsenal because Real Madrid don't need him right now. He had a dream for playing for LFC, and has now done that, next stop RM. Now why in his right / sick mind would he join arsenal. 1) They have a has been manager 2) They haven't won anything for nearly 10 years. 3) Their best players move on every season. RVP, Fabregas, Nasri, Henry, Toure to name few. LFC in
    the mess they've been over the past few seasons have more far more silverwarethan arsenal, not to mention being crippled by past debts. As Toure said Suarezhas more chances of winning trophies at LFC - very true! Also arsenal fansshouldn’t brag on about being in the CL for the last 17 seasons, because in that time, embarrassingly enough you should have won it once or even twice.Chelski on the other hand have made history being the first London team to win it, that must’ve hurt the goners – pride wise! Arsenal should take a long hard look at themselves and their fans should finally wake up to the fact that it'll be another 10 years before you win anything. As far as the CL titles concerned some clubs can only dream. Whilst others (carefully watch the stars) LFC *****. So now you have it Arsenal these are the cold hard facts. Dream on!!!! YNWA!!!!!

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  52. The plot thickens

    Kolo Toure announced that he was happy Saurez is staying on a interview today with Radio city.

    Now the question is, is he responding to the twit or does he know something we don't?

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  53. Think of the positives (if this is true)
    1) he will play for LFC, plenty goals plus assists
    2) he will not play for arsenal (competion)
    3) Arsenal have been wasting their time during the transfer market, and thus won't strengthen.

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  54. Oh yeah and look at Torres when he left to go to plastic chelski. May have won a couple of trophies, but full of hurt, regret and confidence gone for ever. Mourhino will sell him to whover for 15mill come January

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  55. I'm pretty sure Tevez is his buddy - might have actually been giving him guidance lately :P

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  56. The SUAREZ show has been like a football western.The good - The way FSG has stayed strong and not buckled under the pressure of player power.JOHN HENRY has dealt with AFC to date in a way that shows good leadership.However, things change very quickly in football.I hope they don't make me regret saying that.
    The bad - SUAREZ has tried to force a move to ARSENAL a direct rival for Champions League.He's shown desperation to leave and that's completely embarrassed the club.If we were denying a big money move to BARCA or MADRID then i could understand.For him to spit the dummy out over the club not sanctioning a move to ARSENAL is unreasonable.
    The ugly - How he's treated club and fans after the support he's got from the majority of LIVERPOOL fans.I have a feeling there's more twists to come but this long drawn out saga is boring me to death!

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  57. to be truful i am totally bored of it now ,i am more concerned with our lack of signings

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  58. Assuming that he's staying is true (highly probable at this stage), and that contract renegotiations are true (probable).
    They can take the opportunity to tweak some of the incentives to work more in the teams favour. I was reading how bonuses for goals scored don't exactly help the team - rather than passing, a player has the incentive to shoot for goal - if they make the bonus tied to a tally of goals and assists (given equal weight), then chances are higher the player will make the right decision in getting a goal. (you think that this may be (in part) why Suarez wasn't given any penalty kicks - to possibly save the club some money had he not made 20+goals?)
    They can also clear up the exit clause, and make it crystal clear. The curent fiasco has been caused by this, Suarez has part of the blame, his lawyers and agent have part of the blame, but so does the club for even including it- this clause did nothing but cause trouble, it was there to appease the player on signing, but has no teeth, and only led to disappointment. Guess both parties were too busy looking at shiny objects to properly scrutinize this and foresee eventual outcomes.
    An extra 40K a week to keep the player happy will go a long way into getting the team their goal of CL, and an extension with a large exit clause will assure more money, and no ambiguity should Liverpool not make CL.

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  59. suarez looks like eli wallace as well......rogers cant be clints horse with his new veneers

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  60. well there is a possibility of sinclair and the guy from granada

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  61. A club's attraction to potential players is based on : money, prestige, a winning record, or potential to win (winning players and managers), potential play time, geopraphy and culture.
    In this equation, Suarez would represent potential to win, as he is world class - in order to keep a stream of talent lined up, Liverpool first needs to pay up to get at least 1 other big name player, if they start winning things, or get closer to winning things, signings will only get better. Otherwise there isn't much they can do to make themselves more attractive.

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  62. Glad to see you now accept that his current clause isn't a "proper" release clause given that just the other day you were sure he'd win his case if it went legal. ;-)

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  63. Well, I hope he stays. His antics are puerile and he has hurt the team by his bans but he is still one of the 5 best strikers in the world right now. Maybe we actually became a stronger team because we got young talent to fill the void if he leaves. He may be a temperamental, immature, pain in the butt...but he's OUR temperamental, immature pain in the butt.

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  64. Sha Ker Huss Ain5:51 pm, August 14, 2013

    read the telegraph , they have an actual quote from suarez denying he wants to say

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  65. that was.........beautiful.

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  66. I concede it's not proper, but still think he'd win if brought to court - based on it's intent, and what it is supposed to mean - a means of leaving if no CL.
    It's a mess, and FSG share part of the blame in this fiasco, as does Suarez and his Agent.
    Essentially it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck - but is not a duck.
    You skim through things and you see No CL.... ...Offer of 40m... ...Negioate leave... Ok, looks good, where do I sign?
    FSG probably saw the potential of an ordeal, but hoped CL would be reached, and not have to deal with. Suarez probably didn't fully understand, and probably rushed through things with assurances from his agent who was set to receive a commission.
    You have to use your imagination a little to try and figure out how these things happen - the biggest clue is who benefits - in this case on the surface it would appear Suarez had put conditions to be met for him to stay - but, if these conditions mean nothing, then FSG the only ones benefiting, and were fully aware of it. Negligence on both parts. Suarez for not reading the small print, FSG for pulling a fast one with the wording.

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  67. They actually have two stories running one saying stay the other knocking it down but based on a claimed quote from Suarez via a Japanese news source.....take your pick. Until I see Suarez on camera calling it one way or the other I'm having a lie down and a back rub....

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  68. marquee signings hardly,a rodgers old boy and a player from a club who are best know for tv rentals

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  69. Wel;l there he goes again, ruthlessly have trees killed. Causing all kinds of people to get carpal tunnel syndrome on internet discussion boards, writing nothing but speculation. When will it end!

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  70. gimme sport have said suarez said he did not say he wants to stay at anfield after todays game am i bothered ,i do not give a f"ck but its certainly taking the heat of fsg are there total negligance this transfer window,wether he stays or goes we needed major improvement something that as not happened

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  71. But you're not jus passing on the info, you also say "I don't see why this journalist would lie"


    One might ask why would the other journalist lie either?

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  72. this suarez saga has become a bad parody of itself.

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  73. oh i like that! throw suarez to anzhi as part of willian deal. let him rot in russia. no offence intended to my neighbouring country...

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  74. Legally their intent would be seen as what they signed, that's what a contract is all about. They would have a very difficult time trying to prove that after having the agent, his lawyers etc. look through it they meant to sign something else! Even if they did say that stupidity is no defence.
    In addition, after the clause was revealed to be not as he claimed LS then tried to say a "verbal agreement" had also been made at the time .... but he'd directly contradicted this himself in an interview with the Daily Mail just a few months later in which he acknowledged it would take time to make CL and he would be staying even if LFC didn't make CL last season.... very odd thing to state if he'd made his plans for CL known at the time of re-signing his contract as he's claimed...very odd thing to state if he had the clause (which of course he didn't) or the verbal agreement, which has been denied. All makes sense though if he just decided he wanted off to Real Madrid... and then when that looked uncertain he was off to Arsenal.

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  75. clubs willing/able to pay such cash. Russians: Anzhi and Zenit. France: PSG, Monaco. Italy: Nobody. Spain: Real and Barca. Germany: Nobody (bayern doesnt pay such ammounts for players)
    England: Chelsea, City.


    thats our options for offloading suarez

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  76. Time for Luis Suarez to shut his trap and hand in his transfer request.

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  77. im pretty sure the **cke* is jack the ripper aswell as murderer of Olof Palme and Kennedy, he overloaded the Reactor in Tshernobly and introduced Polonium in Litvinenkos system.... yeah yeah...


    he deserves all the Sh** flying towards him. your national hero is one of worst mercenaries with no concience in whole sport, and that my friend is quite a feat

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  78. what the hell as is nationality got to do with it

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  79. im taking a wild leap thinking that el_uruguayo is uruguayan and suarez is one of their biggest sports icons. thats "what the hell" nationality has to do with it jason

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  80. so what if they are from the same country ,is every one from your country the same

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  81. 1) if the club plays him without him apologizing the club will show lack of spine and bow before a talented ingrate bully. i hope he apologises if he stays, that way he redeems himself some.


    2) i rather see him in arsenal atm, even if it costs us CL. Luis suarez isnt worth the integrity of our club.



    3) they do that every year and still manage to beat us

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  82. major improvement. downing out and aspas in. i cout that major improvement in right wing. aswell as financial improvement

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  83. i wish the yanks would spend a few dollars more

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  84. your national hero, lets break it down.

    your national = your nation
    National hero = hero of a nation ( which suarez actually is, if not hero then a widely popular if not the most loved footballer)

    your national hero means your nations hero, not your hero.

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  85. aspas as not played one game yet but hes a major improvement how? the only pre season game he has played were he came anywhere close to the phsicality that he will face week in week out was celtic,and he went completly missing after the 1st challenge

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  86. rooney means nothing to me ,if he played for lfc it mite be different ,many lfc fans are not bothered about the national side ,you jumped to a conclusion ,

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  87. the worst case scenario is he makes as little difference in the team as downing did. still we are saving huge ammount in wages

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  88. explain how i did that.

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  89. Jeez man, cheer up. I'm sure he'll make some kind of apology - you can learn to love him again.

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  90. why do you support lfc ,,because one of your countrymen plays/played for us,

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  91. Statements to the press earlier are made to not stir things up - it would be totally advisable to say otherwise. You can't hold that against him, as saying "I'll ditch the team if we don't make it" would cause more problems for the team - can't fault him for that.

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  92. downing played well last season compared to some players ,most fans who watch week in week out will tell you downing was not the worst player at the club ,but they are still there

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  93. liverpool4life5657:16 pm, August 14, 2013

    Negligence? What are you on about. Their still time to go, do you ever stop being negative? we are close to signing a LB and we've approached anzi about willian.

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  94. liverpool4life5657:18 pm, August 14, 2013

    He scores more than downing. Has more influence in games. As we have seen in pre season. And how was he missing it was one game he was quiet.

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  95. Yes, i know all that, my point was simply that Suarez by way of the manner in which he is going about leaving.....esp the public attack on the manager.... will not exactly do us any favours in the transfer market.....same with Torres leaving etc that was my point.....


    Its the negative press that comes with Suarez that looks bad on the manager & the Club, granted looks worse when we underperform, but Suarez has played his part in that too......how many games has he banned for altogether already?


    Fact is the last thing we need at the moment when we are trying to attract some quality to the Club....... is Luis Suarez going to the press with a kiss & tell story against the Club & manager.......trying to get a move to Arsenal & NOT HANDING IN A TRANSFER REQUEST!!!!!!!!!!


    & Yes, we do need to make a marquee signing IMO to replace Suarez......


    Trouble is we are having to look at too many positions that need replacements for players who let us down last season.....new GK....LB...CB..?....Winger/forward, last season too many players let us down, period....


    Glen Johnson, Enrique, Reina, Skrtel....Agger even....Lucas....Downing....i could go on but that leaves us with a lot of weak links.....we cannot just buy marquee signings to replace that many players in one hit.....BR was IMO let down by the players....more than anything else, our entire defence was at times shockingly bad, schoolboy errors you name it, our DM was not on song either more miss than hit......our up front we also had Suarez missing plenty of sitters, not linking up well etc and IMO underperforming at times costing us attacking momentum.....


    Bigger picture mate.....thats what you won't want to accept because it doesn't fit your agenda of blind allegiance to a wantaway troublemaker at the Club instead of the Club itself.....


    You must be a gooner in disguise!

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  96. i sincerely hope he does, but as a fan. i really cant see a way how he can redeem himself. i hope a resolution for this mess, and only tolerable resolution i can think is suarez leaves LFC.



    the one thing i cannot fathom is, why he refuses to submit transfer request. yes he will lose a mil or so (worst case scenario)
    he has already made several, enough for life for him, heck, he could supply for himself for you me and most of readers of this site.


    the sheer nerve that he has trying to milk the club for few last bucks while prostituting himself to other clubs and insulting LFC and its fans is what i find most disturbing.

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  97. we kick off on saturday ,or do you not know that fsg i am sure do,we play 3 games before the window closes 9 points up for grabs we need every point we can get

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  98. to be honest Litmanen has a some to do with it, but with that logic, i could aswell be supporting Barca or Ajax.


    read the posts above, you still fail to grasp the meaning of the sentence you are replying to

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  99. liverpool4life5657:22 pm, August 14, 2013

    Point? It doesn't define a season. And yes your right on it counts but we have enough upfront in Sturridge,coutinho aspas. You're just moaning for no reason really.

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  100. i have not missed a single LFC league game in 3 years, some cup matches i have missed. but downing (money he earns against the product in pitch) was our worst player, imo

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  101. Jason is negative but he also has a point. No grand improvement has been made with our starting 11. Our strenght of depth is better, so is our options for right wing. but club like liverpool should have a marquee signing. and most of our fans demand one, so i can see where jason comes from.

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  102. liverpool4life5657:25 pm, August 14, 2013

    He on 70K a week he doesn't play like a 70K a week player. and a price tag of 20 million, also he 29 with only two years left on his contract which was why we let him go.

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  103. and you are just being, a dreamer

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  104. liverpool4life5657:27 pm, August 14, 2013

    I want one too, we've tried to make one in Mkhitaryan and costa but we got turned down that's why not we've turned to willian.

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  105. liverpool4life5657:29 pm, August 14, 2013

    Dreamer? How do you work that out?:) I'm going on the facts from last year when we played without Suarez and we done well, we've added extra striker (aspas) so I don't see why your being negative. Also how this FsG fault? They give funds they don't point out the targets we pick. :)

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  106. i do not fail to grasp anything you have answered the ?just because you started supporting because of it having something to do with litmanen ,you assumed the same

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  107. so who fault is it because according to you its not rodgers either 30 million and hk

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  108. he was silent m8 after the 1st tackle

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  109. It is a feat! And I must say I take pleasure in sharing the nationality of this geat man - for watching him in the sky blue shirt brings me nothing but great joy -like today, he scored, assisted, and basically set up the other.
    If my intererst was watching gentlemen engage in sportly competition I would watch Polo, or fencing, maybe even Chess. But that is not my interest, I seek entertainment, and Suarez is the pinacle of entertainment on a football pitch.

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  110. we mite as well have been linked to messi and pele you would still spout the same thing

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  111. liverpool4life5657:33 pm, August 14, 2013

    We have a chance to get willian :-) he wants a PL move and FsG have gave Rodgers backing to make a bid.

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  112. and nether did half the players last season

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  113. liverpool4life5657:33 pm, August 14, 2013

    How can it be anyone fault? Two players turned us down for a club in CL. No ones fault.

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  114. "your national hero is" sentence refers to



    Suarez is a national hero of uruguay, not hero of el_ uruguayos as a poster? it is provocatively said i admit.



    but you do realise that i didnt claim that el_uruguayo supports lfc cause of suarez.



    this is as simply as i can put it, if you do not understand it. i can do nothing more

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  115. liverpool4life5657:35 pm, August 14, 2013

    Think you need to look at the game again.

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  116. we have two hopes of getting him if any other big club wants no hope and slim hope and slim just left town

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  117. liverpool4life5657:35 pm, August 14, 2013

    Like who?:)

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  118. i respect that. but i hope the entertainment wears white or white and red instead of red coming season.

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  119. liverpool4life5657:37 pm, August 14, 2013

    Well in a interview before he said he liked people and watches them regularly. Also with Lucas,coutinho he can settle in well also the new LB who coming in is also Brazilian, two clubs are in for him, liverpool and spurs, spurs will only buy him if bale is sold....

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  120. what about the lads spurs have signed ,and swansea,and southampton they would have made us stronger no we do not compete

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  121. liverpool4life5657:38 pm, August 14, 2013

    We obviously didn't scout them? we want a goal scoring midfield/winger, neither of spurs have signed is one.

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  122. I get the big picture. But I don't think it's quite as bleak as you paint it, nor do I think that LS has as much influence on it as has been given. I think the picture as you paint, probably influences players more.
    As for my alliegance, well, I'm a Uruguay and PeƱarol fan by birth. I started watching Liverpool because of Suarez, but will watch when he's not playing. Haven't bought a jersey yet, but I do get up early on the weekend to watch games - so that counts for something.
    Either way, end of the day, think we all want the same thing - just that I'd like to see the team succeed with Luis in it. Think he probably should redeem himself. Looks like he doesn't have much of a choice now, and IMO the team would be in a better position if he stayed.

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  123. you claimed he gave him more credit because he was a national hero like i said if rooney or beckham was in my local pub i would not ask them for an autograph

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  124. and where does aspas play ,so why would we sign a marquee signing to put him on the bench ,if he even gets a game

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  125. no. that is not what i claimed. that is what you assumed.

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  126. YOUR national hero,yes maybe i assumed

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  127. liverpool4life5657:45 pm, August 14, 2013

    Our marquee signing will be playing. Aspas is a squad player as BR said.

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  128. I understand what you're saying but...


    Liverpool doesn't need to sell him because of the years remaining on his contract.

    They also don't need to restructure his contract to give him that out clause that he's so desperately seeking.


    Or if they did, they'd make the buy-out money unreasonable like 90m.

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  129. No, they don't need to do anything.
    But they should do whatever brings the best return on investment.
    I'm not sure not renogotiating would achieve this, or get the best results from the player, but I could be wrong. I

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  130. It would be held against him in a court of law...which is what we are talking about....LFC's position has been consistent...Suarez's hasn't...and they could, and would I'd say, point out that if this verbal agreement existed why did Suarez not mention it then in what was a long interview, not a statement, back in January? He tried to claim it later anyway so why not then if it existed? It would have been very easy even to just say something neutral like there was an understanding between them and the situation would be reviewed at the end of the season...but he didn't, in fact he went so far as to say it would take some time to get CL and he would stay. He would lose a legal case and he knows it, which is why he hasn't launched one despite various mutterings. You are trying to defend him, which is admirable to some extent, but don't make the mistake of perhaps doing it blindly...look where it got us! I don't believe he's been misled by LFC as you claim, I think he simply decided he could do better with Real and then clutched at the last piece of paja, Arsenal.

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  131. It's hard to say, but there were all kinds of hints even before the end of the season... ...SG saying Saurez deserves chamions league, and a few others saying so also. There were links with Real and Bayern much earlier.
    Fact is if he personally gave out any hint he would go before the end of the season - it would cause a $hitstorm, and internal turmoil. The absence of this doesn't prove anything.
    I honestly think that at some point he was misled, somewhere down the chain between LFC - LFC's Lawyer's - His Agent - His Lawyer's. The clause is nothing but trouble, but he signed it - I have a hard time believing that he knew full well what he was signing. I'm sure LFC knew full well what the clause meant - absolutely nothing.

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  132. I really hope that I don't see him in the third kit - or anyone for that matter - will probably not watch those games for fear having it induce a seizure.
    Face it, chances are he's going to stay - do you want Henry and Rodgers to look stupid and lose their credibility?

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  133. it is most likely. i dont like the fact though. i hope real or PSG jumps with last minute offer of 50 for him. not gonna happen, but i can allways dream

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  134. im not entirely sure, but how i have learned my english. pardon me, its not my native language, but your national hero, refers to -your nations-, instead of -your-.

    your friends car is shi*

    do i insult you or your friends car with the sentence?

    you can interpret however you want. ive explained what i said, if you want to make it to something else. be my guest

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  135. Don't worry dude, I didnt' take any offense.

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  136. i have no problem you are pardoned

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  137. LFC's position is even stronger this particular year because it's a World Cup year.


    If anything, they can be incredibly shrewd here and most likely get away with it since Suarez can't personally afford to sulk the year away (such as Tevez essentially did).


    But I do understand what you're saying. It almost comes across as a simple act of good faith.

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  138. I'm sure LFC knew it meant they had to inform him, and that was that, if Suarez thought it meant anything else he has only himself and his advisors to blame...not LFC. It was there in black and white and had been for a year. He'd lose, the PFA reckons so too, and his lack of any action suggests he knows it too.

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  139. Fair enough, can't say i agree with you regarding if he (Suarez) stays but that's what these forums are for, i can at least see your point of view nonetheless, here's hoping we have a better season than last, with or without Suarez.


    YNWA.

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  140. JK why has a comment i sent been awaiting moderation for about 4+ hours.It wasn't directed at anyone and there was no bad language?

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  141. If Suarez want CL then he can stay, fulfill his contract and help us get there. While he's wearing the shirt he has my support, I just want to get the season underway!

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  142. horrifying news that he wants to stay? LFC needs his goals........ you think we would have lost against Celtic with LS on the pitch? I predict a 0-0 draw against Stoke. Hope im wrong

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  143. Right I'm off for the night....been good discussion! All the best, G.

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  144. According to Uruguyan press he confirmed to them in Japan that he is staying in LFC

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  145. Did Liverpool beat Newcastle 3-1 in a closed practice match?

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  146. Some food for thought re Suarez.
    Leaving him to rot and paying his contract like Winston Bogarde at Chelsea would cost FSG around £20m
    Given Bale would cost upwards of £85m, Cavani cost 55m etc etc , the true value of Suarez is around £55-60m
    Selling him at a loss now(compared to his true worth) would mean a downgrade of £15-20m on his true worth, but would put FSG under pressure from any player wanting out in the future
    Faced with potentially paying up to £20m to make their point, or losing a similar amount and strengthening their major rival for CL places, perhaps FSG have decided to tough this one out to the end.
    Can't keep an unhappy player? I reckon Suarez can't afford to not play in WC year....

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  147. WAIT???? He wants to leave again??!! TRAITOR!!!

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  148. I find it absolutely ridiculous when it was reported that Suarez wants to stay and even extend his contract. After the way he has been prostituting himself to Champ League clubs all summer, the report has question marks written all over it. I find it more amusing that people actually believed the story that he would stay. I don't believe he said he wants to stay.


    Suarez should just shut his mouth up. He is a very disrespectful and deceitful person twisting and turning his words to suit his own selfish needs. He looks like a child whining and nagging unless he gets what he wants. As a father himself. he is setting a very poor example to his daughter.


    I still wander why he hasn't hand in his transfer request.

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  149. Agree with you. Sometimes, these players don't realize that when they join a good team like Real Madrid or Man Utd or even Chelsea, they have a strong squad and the team is not built around 1 or 2 players. If you don't perform, other players can come in and do just as well in most cases.


    But at a club like Liverpool where we don't have a strong squad, the team is built around 1 or 2 players like Gerard and Torres and then Suarez. Obviously, these players shine because most plays are targeted at them. They are the center of attraction. Also, look at Andy Carroll at Newcastle.


    So. I would not be surprise if Suarez at Arsenal (if it materialize) meet the same fate as Torres at Chelsea. Torres won trophies with minimal contribution to the team and he was more like a passenger in the team.

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  150. It would not be a bad idea to hang on to Suarez and let him rot on the bench than strengthen a rival team. Being Suarez, he has a great desire to play especially in a World Cup year. Liverpool has the upper hand. I suspect the club will do just that - sit on him until he comes around.

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  151. Not much info out there about it, but I heard Sturridge started and scored, and it was reported that Teixeira started too.

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  152. When even the words out of Suarez's own mouth can't be trusted, there is no "reliable" source here. The only confirmation will be when the club confirms his transfer or if Suarez ends up training at Melwood when the window finally closes. Until then it's all up in the air.


    I'm back and forth many times on the issue. If he can't commit to the club then we don't want him and should simply spend up now on a quality replacement. However I'm ultimately still very much OK with the idea of a committed Suarez at the club for one more season, or even until January. He can have his contract re-written with a clearer "buy out" clause that suits everyone. 50 million pounds from a non PL club and you can join whoever you want.


    He's still going to be hard to replace and this is getting later and later. "In good faith" would have been an upfront and genuine bid close to 50 million made early in the transfer window. It just didn't happen, so I actually would now expect him to stay. He needs a massive adjustment of attitude but there is still no question in my mind that a determined Luis Suarez is something worth having in the team. Who knows what really goes on in his head, but if he can play football at his top level then it's an easy decision for me: keep the player as long as he is able to give 100% on the pitch. General moments of insanity may alter that view.


    For what it's worth, I think if he genuinely believed he had a clause in his contract to leave for 40 million pounds to a CL club then it's understandable that he's upset. He could easily be lying about those "promises" but it could also be the case that the two sides simply misunderstood each other. Believing you have the right to leave if a bid comes in and then simply pursuing that avenue is not an issue to me. Telling the club over a year ago that you'd like to progress to something better, being told that such a move would be allowed, then wanting such a move to happen - I really don't see anything wrong with that. It's not a betrayal at all, it's just a case of him no longer wanting to play here. I don't hate the guy for wanting to leave. The way he handles himself is a different matter, but there are some aspects to all of this that are not as terrible as people seem to make out.

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  153. Yeah, real objective journalism...

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  154. I suppose the truth is somewhere in the middle. He will stay at Liverpool because he has no other choice and he will do his best when playing for us because he has no other choice. But if an offer came along that we would accept, he will leave and in the meantime his contract will be amended to contain a straight out transfer fee that we will accept. So then his agents can go around to Europe's top clubs trying to sell him. I wouldn't be surprised if the sum that ends up in there will be pretty close to what Bayern would be willing to pay. As classy as Guardiola is, as classless is his brother (and the player he represents)

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  155. When I read "Great News" I thought it was going to be about Downing leaving

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  156. since when are there practice matches against premier league rivals a few days before the new season? isn't that a bit odd?

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  157. I don't know. There was no news leading up to it, I know it was behind closed doors but we are still made aware of the matches. Maybe it was organised to give Sturridge a start and as I mentioned I think Teixeira played as well so maybe there were opportunities for some younger players.


    If it was a game where all the regulars started like Allen, then it would of been a waste of time IMO.

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  158. i figured mate. Jason apparently did take it on your behalf=)

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  159. guardian says Suarez has apologised and is back in 1st team training

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  160. By the look of those pictures of Suarez training with the first team, it looks like he has decided to stay just to torture you some more.

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