Liverpool striker target Gary Hooper has rejected a new contract at Celtic, and if Brendan Rodgers is on the ball, this could open the door to a January move to Anfield.
In an interview with the Daily Record last week, Celtic boss Neil Lennon confirmed that Hooper's representatives were 'coming up over the weekend', but conceded that 'there is no guarantee' that the prolific striker woud sign a new deal.
Well, according to reports today, Hooper has rejected a new Celtic deal, and with the January transfer window just around the corner, a whole host of clubs will probably be interested in signing the striker.
Top UK bookmakers have bookmakers, Liverpool as 5-1 second favourites to sign Hooper in January, and according to one source, Brendan Rodgers a 'long-term fan' of the player, who will cost around £7m, which is £5m less than Daniel Sturridge.
Lennon believes that Hooper's form for Celtic will inevitably lead to an England call-up sooner rather than later. He told:
"I don’t think Gary’s far away from an England call-up. He’s a goalscorer and I think they’re priceless. Not only that, I also think he is a pretty intelligent player. He’s got a great first touch and he can bring other people into the game".
Hooper's stats:
* This season: 14 goals/1 assist in 22 starts.
* Last season: 29 goals/8 assists in 45 starts.
A better option than Sturridge? I think so, and if Hooper is available for less than £10m, which is definitely a possibility (Jelavic went for £6m) he'd also less of a risk than the Chelsea striker.
Jaimie Kanwar
In an interview with the Daily Record last week, Celtic boss Neil Lennon confirmed that Hooper's representatives were 'coming up over the weekend', but conceded that 'there is no guarantee' that the prolific striker woud sign a new deal.
Well, according to reports today, Hooper has rejected a new Celtic deal, and with the January transfer window just around the corner, a whole host of clubs will probably be interested in signing the striker.
Top UK bookmakers have bookmakers, Liverpool as 5-1 second favourites to sign Hooper in January, and according to one source, Brendan Rodgers a 'long-term fan' of the player, who will cost around £7m, which is £5m less than Daniel Sturridge.
Lennon believes that Hooper's form for Celtic will inevitably lead to an England call-up sooner rather than later. He told:
"I don’t think Gary’s far away from an England call-up. He’s a goalscorer and I think they’re priceless. Not only that, I also think he is a pretty intelligent player. He’s got a great first touch and he can bring other people into the game".
Hooper's stats:
* This season: 14 goals/1 assist in 22 starts.
* Last season: 29 goals/8 assists in 45 starts.
A better option than Sturridge? I think so, and if Hooper is available for less than £10m, which is definitely a possibility (Jelavic went for £6m) he'd also less of a risk than the Chelsea striker.
Jaimie Kanwar
He'd go really well WITH Sturridge....at Stoke or Sunderland or something...
ReplyDeletewould love to see him @ lfc
ReplyDelete£7million! you're mad! If Sturridge is worth £12m then Hooper is worth at least the same, Can't see him going to the scousers for less than £10m. Think he's better off up in Jockoland than joining LFC
ReplyDeleteCertainly more mouth-watering than Sturridge.
ReplyDeleteNo, I'm being a realist. Show me a list of strikers from the SPL who've gone for for £12m or more over the last 30 years.
ReplyDeleteYou won't find many, if any. It doesn't matter what you or I think, history proves that Hooper will go for £6-£9m. Jelavic went for £6m, why would Hooper cost more?
Mid-table toiling with Liverpool or Champions League against Juve? No brainer. If he is going it will be next summer and will be to a big club - not a mid-table EPL club with no European football next season.
ReplyDeleteMy problem with him, is that almost all his goals come from very close to the goal, not taps in, but near that. From seeing us play, we never seem to get many crosses in. Maybe the problem is we haven`t had a "fox in the box" type player, but I wonder more if the tactics are the reason, if that is the case he will be dead weight. Borini was a typical fox in the box type of player (with less goals) and he looks out of place when he plays, as our forwards seem required to spend a lot of time not in the box. This isn`t just a thing with Hooper, but any striker who just sits in the box area. Sturridge I feel offers a lot more, as he is used to scoring from playing out wide, giving him that extra edge. For the last two seasons I have noticed when we get up there end, the box is always either empty or only has one guy in it.
ReplyDeleteBecause Celtic don't have to sell him... Rangers did have to shift Jelavic as history has shown when they went to the wall shortly after it...
ReplyDeleteYou can LFC a mid table club all you like, but it's not going to stop Hooper dumping Celtic for a bigger club, and LFC are still a bigger club than Celtic. I doubt Hooper wants to spend another season playing against the likes of Kilmarnock and Hibernian.
ReplyDeleteJuventus have had scouts looking at him as have Tottenham Hotspur. Both teams with bigger pockets and better prospective opportunities to impress on a truely big stage than Liverpool... He'll do a job wherever he goes and 10+ Million will be the asking price given the opposition he has played / impressed against this season...
ReplyDeleteCeltic are a massive club, but I agree its the league which is the issue, not the club. SPL just is not that great. EPL gives him more money, more exposure, more sponsorship chances, more fans, more chance of reaching a higher level.
ReplyDeleteWe need a goal scorer. Sturridge is not that prowen. I'd go for Hooper. We create enough chances to win our matches but the goal conversion ratio is laughable. We have to realise that Llorente, falcao, David Villa, Cavarni etc. is out of our reach for now at least.
ReplyDeleteMaybe because they don't have financial problems and are pretty much guaranteed to be in cl next year where the value of their players will increase... though never watched him so I can't know, but he gets a lot of praise whenever I read about him... Ba for Carroll with money, thoughts?
ReplyDeleteTrue that. Jelavic was quoted at 15 million not long before.
ReplyDeleteLFC are a bigger club? We play in a bigger league yes. Bigger club, no.
ReplyDeleteI am not sure Liverpool is the right place for Hooper to go to right now. I doubt he'll be going anywhere in January with Champions League football still on the table. Some of you think that the SPL is easy to score in, it really isn't, not when you can be playing against 10 men behind the ball. Besides, on match day 3 or 4 of the Champions League Hooper was the ONLY Englishman to score. Hooper is a predator and will score the same ratio of goals wherever you put him... if he's given the service.
ReplyDeletePlaying against CL class opposition like the Manchesters, Chelsea, Arsenal, Tottenham and a few more contenders on a regular basis in on of the top leagues in the world or having an exceptionally good run in the CL every now and then while toiling against the likes of St. Johnstone or Ross County on a regular basis. No disrespect to the Scottish clubs, but how many of them are Prem standard? Playing against better players EVERY WEEK would rather make him a better player and may well earn him international recognition than staying in what some call the EuroDisnae League.
ReplyDeleteBecause your forgetting the golden rule. We pay about 75% over a players true price as a standard. So if he should go for say £9mil I reckon roughly £14mil would be what we would pay. We arent as bad as last season, but we are still at it. Borini - 11mil, Allen - 15mil
ReplyDeleteAgain, show me a list of SPL strikers who have gone for £10m+ over the last 20-30 years? It doesn't happen, and Hooper will be no exception.
ReplyDeleteIf we are going to buy in the UK market I would much rather see this lad than Sturridge. He has a far better work ethic than Sturridge and is a team player and not a prima donna.
ReplyDeleteI dunno, I would still say LFC are bigger, I don`t have a stats sheet, but worldwide fanbase must be bigger for LFC.
ReplyDeleteIn terms of worldwide fanbase, historical success, commercial infrastructure, turnover, ability to attract high-quality players etc, Liverpool are a bigger club than Celtic.
ReplyDeleteCeltic are the biggest club in a country where the second biggest club plays in the fourth tier.
ReplyDeleteJust fcuk off!
ReplyDeleteAlso with Celtic, his chances of ever winning the CL are near on none, with us its prob the same, but if he moved to the EPL with a top four club like City, Utd of Chelsea (not sure any would want him tho) he would not just be in the CL but in with a chance of winning it.
ReplyDeleteAgain your forgetting this is us
ReplyDeleteTrue, wouldn't be a good move for him if he went in January. A player who can score even when the opposition put 10 men behind the ball is exactly what we need.
ReplyDeleteNot sure
ReplyDeleteThat's not really a valid argument though, is it? Have LFC ever paid over the odds for an SPL player? No, so why would it happen now?
ReplyDeleteJust had a look at the top scorers in the SPL this season. Right now Hooper is 13th with five. The scoring charts are topped by a on load from Championship side Wolverhampton. So much about the standard of football north of the border.
ReplyDeleteIf he is given the right kind of service, I`m just not sure we give any kind..... We have a lot of shots, but most are self made or really weak attempts. I haven`t seen him play enough to know if he is the type of player who will go win the ball back, go round a few guys, and then score.
ReplyDeleteWould have this guy over sturridge any day of the week, if he turned out to be half as good as our last striker from celtic we,d have a legend again. Who are the bookies favourites for him then?dont tell me its spurs, they go after every bloody player we watch!
ReplyDeleteNot sure on Hooper. I agree with the £7m price tag though. He could be hit and miss however for £7m I'd be willing to take the gamble. Strikers plying their trade in Scotland historically do not move for large sums of money, due to the standard of football. Teams in the premier league know its a gamble whether they can adapt to the premier league. Take a look a Jelavic for instance, in monetary terms he cost £8m or so, however he hit the ground running.
ReplyDeleteI think £7m is a risk worth taking though, if you compare to the £15m shelled out for Borini.
Sunderland are currently favourites, with LFC second faves.
ReplyDeleteIts perfectly valid, as we pay over the odds for every player, no matter where they play. It`s a new regime in charge, so I can`t see whats valid about comparing old regimes and saying that is how the new one will act. We rarely ever sign anyone from the SPL full stop now. If the argument is as we have never paid loads for someone from the SPL before why would we now, then I would counter that with, we don`t sign anyone from the SPL in the last 10 years, so would why we sign someone from there now, Of which it would be clear to be a invalid point. I don`t think you can ever get a players value from previous sales. Each players price is based on today. If the man was as good as messi, I have no doubts he would go for over 12mil. Before we signed Andy carroll for a British Transfer record (for English player) no English player had ever been sold for 35mil, so in your theory no one ever would be sold for that, but they were, as times change, situations change, and the people paying the money change.
ReplyDeleteI hadn't realised Celtic won the league whilst regularly toiling against St Johnstone and Ross County... I have however noticed that as a club we are consistently brow beaten by Liverpool fans who bleat on about being a massive club... Big, yes with an undoubted history and fantastically fanatical fans (Well those in the kop week in week out)... But you see a shirt with Green and White hoops anywhere in the world and football fans know who we are, that my friend is global appeal... There is no mistaking brand awareness, people see an apple symbol with a chunk out of it and they knows its Apple, they see a swoosh and they know its Nike, they see the Green and White hoops and a football fan knows its Glasgow Celtic... The football fans know its a friendly bunch of fans which will have fun wherever they go... The footballer knows playing in front of those fans is an honour, whether for or against... This club is a massive club and no amount of brow beating by anyone will change that... True the league we play in is restrictive and the quality of opposition poor and also true that players will seek to move on to bigger and better things but then so do players that play for FC Porto and probably players playing for Malaga and probably Schalke... They are all Champions League last 16 teams along with Glasgow Celtic... This season has been great for us and its the start of a special period in the clubs history... Gary Hooper might not want to be there but we have young and exciting players looking to fill his boots and with the likes of Tony Watt lashing in debut goals against Barcelona i'd say we will be well enough provisioned... Have Gary Hooper for 10+ Million and Celtic will find another diamond in the rough... We will polish it and we will move on... We have bigger fish to fry than the question 'Are we a big club?' we know we are, Clarence Seedorf knows we are, Xavi knows we are, Carlo Ancellotti knows and Cristiano Ronaldo knows... I'll take the opinion of some of the greatest players of modern football any day... Celtic are great and i am proud to be a fan of Glasgow's Green and White...
ReplyDeleteI can't and i'll give you that... But if he has ambition he'll be more interested by what Juventus have to offer... If these clubs are really interested in him then it will be a case of the highest bidder... Don't fancy having the Americans holding the purse strings when you are fighting that fight... Celtic gave Liverpool your greatest ever player and maybe you might have another gem, just don't go spoiling his lot like you have done with so many other promising young strikers...
ReplyDeleteThe Carroll comparison isn't really credible considering lots of Brit players have been sold for huge sums over the years.
ReplyDeleteHistory is definitely a reliable indicator when it comes to transfers, and the fact is no Premier League club has ever paid £10-12m for an SPL striker, and this still applies now, with Jelavic going to Everton for £6m.
With this in mind, it is highly probable that Hooper will not go for more than £8m. Whether LFC have signed anyone from the SPL recently is irrelevant; there are 19 other clubs in the Premier League, and they have signed SPL players over the last 10-15 years.
He doesn't always have a great work rate... Most of the time he does but the first 6 weeks of the season he seems to be still shifting his Summer weight... The high life over the Summer does take its toll on him... So if you do get him in the Summer be patient, don't revert to type and get on his back because he hasn't scored on his debut... He will get there, he is a good finisher with good movement and a good work ethic and this will succeed wherever he goes as long as the service is early, of good quality and the team work to move opposition defenses around...
ReplyDeleteI don`t think anyone was saying you weren`t a big club, just a simple fact Liverpool are bigger. I don`t think it is meant to be disrespectful, but if someone then comes on and says nooooo Liverpool aren`t bigger, the counter argument to show why we are, will look like we are having a go, but that isn`t the case, its just giving the reasons when asked as to why we are. I think Celtic are a great club, awesome support, some good players, but if asked, I will still say Liverpool are bigger, just like I would say Barca are a bigger club than us right now.
ReplyDeletehooper scored more goals playing in the championship for scunthorpe than andy carroll scored for newcastle and look how much liverpool paid for him. hooper will score goals at any level and hes proved that. he will leave celtic but cant see celtic taking less than £8m
ReplyDeleteAgreed. I personally wasn't suggesting that Celtic aren't a big club; they are, but LFC are arguably bigger, and as Zanatos says, Barcelona are bigger than LFC. It's just the football food chain.
ReplyDeleteAgreed. i stated in different thread that i rate Hooper very highly. as i rate SPL for that matter. And he should be available for relatively low price. Celtic is pretty sound financially but 7-10 million is a big money for any SPL club. hard to turn down.
ReplyDeletebeen reading this blog for, what, a month? now. really enjoyed how statistics and facts have been brough to support of oppinnions and the neutral (maybe not the right word) approach to all things related to Liverpool. Cheers from Finland Jamie.
also really enjoyed debate from other readers.
You may, or may not, have noticed that I tried not to say anything against your club. let alone diminish it. Celtic surely are a huge, well run club. The SPL though is not exactly a big league, is it.
ReplyDeleteGreen and white hoops? Has to be Sporting Clube de Portugal, just to name another club with those kind of shirts who, too, may argue that they are not a small club.
Anyway, the tone of your comment lets me fear that you grossly misunderstood my initial comment. Good luck for you team!
It was relevant purely as you wrote this "Have LFC ever payed over the odds for a SPL player?" If you pose a question and I answer it directly, it is relevant, regardless of if you like my argument.
ReplyDeleteI think the Carroll comparison is credilble, as it shows each transfer is about what one club is willing to pay. Every man and his dog knew £35mil was crazy over the top, still happened though.
I also think you have to add the "liverpool" factor into it, clubs know we pay more, Jelavic I feel would have cost us more than the £6mil Everton payed, purely as it is us, just like Man City have to pay more for there players. Michu is a great example, I have no doubt we would have only had to pay 2mil like Swansea, I`m sure we would have been charged more. I think even BR admitted this once, that due to the status of the club other teams want more money from us.
Know will Hooper cost that much, I dunno. I would like to think we could get him for £9mil or under.
Am I still right that you can`t say no player will ever go for big bucks from the SPL, because its the SPL, yes I`m 100% right.
yeah rangers were in administration. it still doesnt mean scottish clubs are rich. 10 will make a big difference to next year and year beyond that. like it or not, scottish clubs are sell clubs to other major leagues. much like eredivisie is these days. Shame too
ReplyDeleteI think bigger is the wrong adjective to use... What defines a clubs size? Finances don't really as Liverpool probably pay bigger wages than Borussia Dortmund and the collective money spent buying their players vs Liverpools players would mean Liverpool are bigger than Borussia Dortmund but if you decide to sell both teams who do you think will come out better off??? If it is global reach then i doubt Liverpool is bigger, the same / similar i will concede but bigger no (Norway isn't that big ;-))... I know Liverpool's history and i agree they are a traditional BIG club and always will be at the top table in my opinion no matter what the future holds in store for the red half of Merseyside...
ReplyDeleteit was 11mil not 15!!!
ReplyDeleteP.S. Sporting Lisbon play in the hoops because of Celtics hoops... After the European Cup victory in 1967 they adopted the shirt as their own...
ReplyDeleteWhy are sunderland favourites? Lol, the mighty mackems!!
ReplyDeleteHe's been injured and also the side has been tinkered with as we navigated a Champions League group of death... It has been a league of some big results this season when the rest of the clubs are beating each other 3-2 or drawing 4-4, easier to rack up goals in those games...
ReplyDeleteHooper to Liverpool!
ReplyDeleteI'm after seeing Lord Lucan riding Marilyn Moroe in a carriage being drawn by Shergar as the blue moon shone down on the city of Atlantis.
All the liverpool folk can knock any talk of Gary Hooper joining Liverpool on it's head. Why would he be bothered with a mid - table club that struggles to get into the Zooropa Mug. If Glasgow Celtic had half the money those mid table Premiership (best league in the world...pfffft!) clubs squander year in year out, playing and hoping to clutch a place in the Zooropa Mug would be the last thing on our mind. After 5 seasons we'd wipe the floor with you all.
The sooner this European League comes into fruition the better. Celtic must ply there trade among Europe's elite. Where they and their support belong.
Enjoy mid-table mediocrity.
How's Andy Carroll getting on? Still bangin' 'em in?
What defines Bigger, is kinda impossible really to answer, as everyone has there own view, but I think most people work on a collective of things, history, fanbase, appeal and other stuff. In terms of all those things Liverpool even though we are pants at football right now, are still one of the biggest clubs in the world. Bigger is the only adjective to use really, if anything its the perfect one, as a club can be bigger than another without being better. Chelsea are better than us right now, but prob not bigger. I think Appeal and fanbase is two of the main things, and due to our history, we have crazy amounts of support in east asia along with everywhere else in the world. It is hard to measure the exact number of fans worldwide per club, but I think even the most loyal Everton fan would admit Liverpool have more. Like I said, I think you have taken this all a bit to personal, its not that way, and if you are, then chances are you are the issue, not everyone else, as no is having ago at your team buddy!
ReplyDeleteI'm guessing the relationship between Lennon & O'Neill and Lawwell & O'Neill and Members of the Celtic board and their close relations with Ellis Short...
ReplyDeletei`ve given you reply, but the filter has blocked it, so you will have to wait hours to see it lol. ohh how I hate the comment checker on here lol - Jamie, you should look into some new system, where as you yourself could give a plus to members who dont need checking or something, as some of us never post insults, or stuff and I hate losing a post I took 10mins to write lol... please J-Rock it is Xmas ;-)
ReplyDelete''So much about the standard of football north of the border''
ReplyDeleteIndeed. Flogging that dead horse again Anteater. Who did you get paired up with in the Champions league draw today?
I see Chelsea have set another record for the best league in the world. Being the only European Champions not to make it to the next phase. Best league in the world indeed. Watch United and Arsenal get knocked like skittles come Spring time.
Just goes to show you the standard of football South of the border. Eh.
Before we get a post from Jaimie about next opponent in EL, please no one say that disorganized lot from St Petersburg is a threat..
ReplyDeleteand while we are at it, I have been wanting to sign up a proper profile for time, but being a layman I can`t find the log in/create account button lol - hints please
ReplyDeleteDidnt know that mate but we should still have more pull than sunderland if the guy is ambitious, would much prefer him over studge
ReplyDeleteFollow that by amount of recent winners from EPL compared to SPL. In fact have a look over last 7 years and see how many times EPL teams have been in the last 4 (semi) and compare it with all other leagues. I would imagine the EPL is in the top 2, if not 1st in that list, and the SPL aren`t in the top five even. Again this isn`t disrespectful, its just a fact.
ReplyDeleteGiven the cash at your disposal English clubs should be winning it every year. After all it is 'The best League in the World. Isn't it?
ReplyDeleteLeigh Griffith: League games 16, goals 13
ReplyDeleteGary Hooper: League games 13 (1 as sub), goals 5
Source: bbc.co.uk
You obviously know more about Hooper and the SPL in general than I do, but those are the figures.
On one hand you get upset at me or other Reds allegedly belittling you club, which only a madman would do, on the other hand you kind of belittle the goals scored by a player from another club. After all it should be easier (in theory) for Hooper to score as he plays at the top club and has better players who can create better openings for him.
It`s in the top two along with the Spanish league yes, which one is top is hard to say. Typically a EPL team is in the final most years, but like any cup comp, luck also comes into it, otherwise all winners of the F.A Cup would be the same team who wins the league. To me your post seems more like you dispise the EPL for being good, rather than actually think its not. I fail to see how anyone has a strong argument for it not being one of the best leagues in the world
ReplyDeletethe sad story is that even Reading our a threat when we play them these days. Is that from dropping our standards, or dropping our self belief I do not know
ReplyDeleteSometimes other things come into why a player moves, he may feel he wouldn`t get first spot in our team, and therefore prefer Sunderland. Some players like just being in a team that wins, regardless of if they play. I always find Reina and his celebrating with Spain embrassing, considering he never plays, yet he is one of the most vocal winners. Then there is friendly faces, like Realist said, that can be a big pull. So many players like playing for certain managers, then you also have the fact the club has to accept the offer.
ReplyDeleteChampions league finalist since 2000:
ReplyDeleteEngland: 8
Scotland: 0
Champions league winners since 2000:
England: 3
Scotland: 0
Overall Champions League/European Cup winners since 1956:
England: 12
Scotland: 1
ditto runners-up:
England: 7
Scotland: 1
Now you tell me which league may be stronger, the Scottish or the English. I couldn't figure it out.
My point was exactly that. The English league is, overall, stronger than the Scottish league. If you can't agree with that, fair enough. Can't find where I called the Prem the best league in the world, though.
It's more than 40 (forty) years since a Scottish club has reached the final of a European Cup/the Champions League (I won't check the Cup Winners Cup and UEFA Cup now).
I probably don't have to tell you how often Celtic went beyond the 2nd round of the CL since 2000 (zero times). They are having a great season in Europe, kudos to them and good luck for the rest of the campaign, but it is not as if they compete there at the top end on a regular basis.
That's only two games, and if he wants to be considered for England, he needs to play in England; plus he would easily double his salary at LFC, even with the salary structure that LFC are trying to implement. Please - sign Hooper over Sturridge!
ReplyDeleteexactly, it kinda reminds me of when Spurs got fourth a few years again, and all I heard from my mates was how Spurs were now the fourth biggest club, and far bigger than Liverpool, based on a one off season where they hit fourth. Maybe right now they have a better argument for being "better" than us, but at that point it was there first time there in decades!
ReplyDeleteagain = ago lol
ReplyDeleteYou just sound really bitter mate, everyone one here is taking the time to reply to you, with good logical reasons, and you reply with very bitter responses, that tho is a reflection of you as a man. Dispite your clear bitterness, I will rise above it and still wish you guys a great seaon.
ReplyDeleteZanatos, you can also edit you comments, just in case you didn't know. (I just found out yesterday that I can flag a comment as offensive by clicking on that tiny flag).
ReplyDeletethey kind of did , when they bought Charlie Adams, who couldn't get a game for the now deceaced Rangers
ReplyDeleteThat is in Feb. If we are not in form by than...
ReplyDeleteStruggling in the Zooropa Mug and being mid-table in the Prem might (!) be better than having a possibly one-off great season in the CL and playing in the EuroDisnae League.
ReplyDeleteJust in case you forgot it all as you are riding high right now, Celtic's recent European record:
2000 - UEFA Cup 2nd Round
2001 - UEFA Cup 2nd Round
2002 - Champions League 1st Round/UEFA Cup 3rd Round
2003 - UEFA Cup Runner-Up
2004 - Champions League 1st Round/UEFA Cup Quarter-Final
2005 - Champions League 1st Round
2006 - Champions League 2nd Qualifying Round
2007 - Champions League 2nd Round
2008 - Champions League 2nd Round
2009 - Champions League 1st Round
2010 - Champions League Play-Off/Europa League 2nd Round
2011 - Champions League 3rd Qualifying Round/Europa League 1st Round
2012 - Europa League 2nd Round
Not too bad, really, but on occasions you lot are struggling badly, eh.
It's about time some bored, oil-rich sheik buy some clubs in Scotland so you could, too, enjoy some mid-table mediocrity.
I actually have nothing against your club and it's supporters, but you are a bit special. You take everything as an personal insult while you never actually try to get the point of what someone wrote. Wise-up, mate. We have nothing against you, we don't think you are a small club, we are glad for you that you have a great season in Europe (when I say 'we' I am, of course, not sure whether all Liverpool supporters would agree with me, but many probably do).
He actually doesn't act like a man, or let me say, not like a man who actually reads the comments he replies to.
ReplyDeleteWe may have a big chance of progressing given that their fans may well abuse our black players so much that they get banned from the competition. Well, at least if Platini and his mates at UEFA grew a pair.
ReplyDelete'we are not racists nor homofobs but we would prefer no black or gay players in our club. And if possible only SSSR and Scandinavia players, or Slavic." Haha, priceless...
ReplyDeleteAre you bonkers liverpool are one of the biggest clubs in the world fact..look at tradition fanbase history etc ..we are having a blip but it wasn't long ago we where euro champs..to compare cetic to liverpool is like comparing Ali to bruno
ReplyDeleteLets be clear on one thing, a team is really only judged on its current form. Sure we all love to get nostalgic on occasion, but lets face it Celtic is a shining star currently. Celtic just the best team in the WORLD (perhaps best team ever) and are now on to the final 16 of CL. So please don't compare Celtic with Liverpool, Liverpool are woeful at the moment and were just hammered by bottom feeders Aston Villa. Liverpool have got to sack Brendan he is in way over his head. It will take Liverpool many many years to approach Celtics current level , unfortunately having a Yank owner will not help much. I honestly hope that Liverpool can avoid relegation. Can someone tell me why they did not give Dalglish more time(big mistake), Brendan doesn't have the pedigree to manage Crewe Alexander. I honestly do wish all you Liverpool supporters luck because unfortunately you will need plenty of it.
ReplyDeleteLets buy them all..!1
ReplyDeleteMy last post was meant to say Celtic just beat the best team in the world(sorry).
ReplyDeleteYou english live in the clouds, you paid £35 million for carroll
ReplyDeletehooper cost us £2.4 our man has 7 goals in europe from only 16 app. his ratio is almost a goal per 2 games, carrolls is almost a goal every 4 games, even with the quality of defenders down south thats not good enough, so on paper if carroll is worth 35 then hooper is worth at least that, but in the real world is where the rest of us live, hooper is going nowhere unless someone parts with 20 million, especially to some little team that will be lucky to finish mid table
theres probably about 3 teams in the world with a bigger worldwide fan base than celtic, and your not one of them
ReplyDeletewithout your sky money you mob would be a backwater, how did your best teams in the world from the best league in the world do in the champions league this year?
ReplyDeleteBarcelona b are a bigger side than liverpool, i like you but get off the high horse, you never have been and never will be as important as us in any way
ReplyDeleteNonsense. According to a massive study last year by German research company SPORT und MARKT, Celtic were not even in the top 13 when it comes to worldwide fanbase. Liverpool, however, were 7th. Where is the evidence for your contention that 'only 3 teams in the world have a bigger worldwide fanbase than Celtic?'
ReplyDeletehttp://www.talksport.co.uk/magazine/big-picture/2011-10-13/worlds-most-popular-football-club-revealed-man-united-liverpool-arsenal-barca-real-or-chelsea?p=12
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celtic have supporters cluns all over the world son, they can sell out stadiums in america scotland england ireland, liverpool have half of merseyside, wow, you honestly believe that you are as big or as important as us?
ReplyDeleteseems to be a lot of jealousy towards the mighty celtic on here eh? its pretty sad when you look at it, just enjoy your tens of millions big signings big wages and mid table finishes every year, we will stick to rubbish tv deals, and beating the likes of barcelona with bargain buys
ReplyDeleteHaha that is a truly embarrassing post pal!
ReplyDeleteits okay sands when spains seaside economy collapses like greece tranmere will be bigger LOL
ReplyDeleteLiverpool use a math theory formulated by coco the clown when it comes to transfer fees ..
ReplyDeleteanteater you really need to stay off Wikipedia these stats are becoming rather tedious Lol
ReplyDeleteGot them from a page called europeancuphistory, not Wikipedia. Maybe I should stay of the internet in order not to bore you to death. But then I don't know what's wrong with basing arguments about FACTS, and that's a fact, too.
ReplyDeletedream on cant see an epl club be in the cpl next round never and i mean never the best league in the world
ReplyDeleteSturridge 11 goals and 5 assists in 28 starts from the right wing! 8 goals in 12 starts at Bolton! Chelsea's joint leading goal scorer last season in the Premier League even though RDM started benching him? What are the negatives round Sturridge? Don't you think he would score the chances being wasted for the last 18 months? A real pacey forward who can get away from players which Suarez and even Sterling struggles to do sometimes because he hasn't got the long legs! Only just really starting his career not been over played at a young age but I would be happy to see Hopper, Ince and Sturridge sign!
ReplyDeleteHahahaha... Celtic are in the last 16 of the Champs League. Hooper is not looking at past accolades. He is, like every other footballer, wanting to play in the champion's league. Even if he did go to Liverpool it wouldn't be until the summer and you need a striker... NOW!
ReplyDeleteJuve are after him too... Italian champs... More famous than Liverpool and he will get to play against them in two months!
Nonsense story... Why would he want to go to a team, hoghly regarded around the world as a fallen 'giant'!
Without your sky money, you'd be nothing.
On another note... We have already made £24,000,000 from the champion's league this year, we only have 6 million of debt and our team has an average age of 24! We're going places... We're on the up!
Enjoy mid table for the next 5 years at least. Everton are now the biggest team on Merseyside you deluded fools!
Bye bye Liverpool! :-D
Merry Christmas!!! ...we're having a party in the champion's league... Hail Hail, the Celts are here, bring on Juve!
Warning to every LFC supporter if you're crazy enough to eat a deep-fried mars bar your brain will operate at this stupid level!
ReplyDeleteSweaty sock jocks live in cuckoo land, 12 million for hooper you can be ANY football cleub in scotland besides Celtic, and they are fucking awfyl, beat barca but cant beat shite pub teams in their league, Scottish footballs about as interesting and as entertaining as womens...inbreds.
ReplyDeleteThis whole debate is so silly that its giving me hemorrhoids. BRAND FINANCES 20 biggest football Brands 2012. check it if you can be arsed past the loader. http://brandfinance.com/images/upload/brandfinance_football_brands_2012.pdf
ReplyDeleteYAOU ARE ONE IN BRAD JOKE SON, WE ARE THE 4TH LEADING SELLER OF SHIRTS IN THE WORLD, 4 MILLION PEOPLE LIVE IN SCOTLAND, 8 MILLION LIVE IN LONDON ALONE, CELTIC MAY BEAT BARCA, BUT STUGGLE AGAINST THE PUB TEAMS IN THE SPL, ANY PREMIERSHIP TEAM WOULD OF HAD THE SPL SEWN UP BY NOW, DREAM ON SWEATY.
ReplyDeleteThe stats are most definitely not tedious. I'm sure lots of people find them interesting, I know I do. Top stuff.
ReplyDeleteI say stop letting 4 clubs into champions league let only winners of leagues in maybe English clubs wouldn't be near finals then.
ReplyDeletenever let the truth get in the way of a good story...jamie will vouch for that.....
ReplyDeletesock it to em stato...LoL
ReplyDeleteplease Jamie and anteater don't take what i say literally ...i do try and add a modicum of humour in my posts
ReplyDeleteSteve i can give you the numbers of a few psychiatrists if needed....your obviously having some kind of episode.
ReplyDeletei personal dont get involved in the politics of envy but if want to believe Celtic are bigger than Liverpool i respect that.i don't understand it but i respect it.
ReplyDeleteLongshanks just may have had a point ...lol
ReplyDeleteThe sooner the Scottish national party come into fruition the better...lol
ReplyDeleteTruth isn't absolutely, you know. Truth is relative, but I am sure you'll find it extremely tedious if I now start to get philosophic in addition to confirming my arguments with statistics. I stop it in fear for your mental health.
ReplyDeleteI could pepper you with statistics now, but gilstraps would go mental if I did.
ReplyDeleteInteresting! They place Celtic behind (amongst others), hold your breath, Fulham. And the SPL behind the leagues of Norway, Belgium, Switzerland, Romania and others of course. Funny how some of those Celtic supporters on here try to tell us that they are the biggest club in the world bar Barcelona.
ReplyDeleteA survey made in 2005 or 2006 stated that we had something like 18 million supporters on this planet. Think it was the third highest, behind Real Madrid and Barcelona.
ReplyDeleteDo you really believe that? If you do so you may go and change their Wikipedia entry and quick. They wore hoops as early as 1928.
ReplyDeleteThis year? Not too good, to be honest. How do your clubs do in European competitions almost every year?
ReplyDeleteCompared to Scottish clubs, English clubs did reasonably well even before Sky money. While we are at it, where would your league be without Sky money? Extinct? Celtic playing in a league with one club only?
Damn straight. That's my mantra ;-)
ReplyDeleteWho are those promising young strikers we've spoilt? Fowler? Rush?
ReplyDeleteI actually didn't find you comments offensive or insulting or something negative.
ReplyDeleteI find Russian football fans a bit frightening to be honest.
ReplyDeleteAt the same time Celtic lost to mighty clubs like Inverness Caledonian Thistle (nice name though) and Kilmarnock.
ReplyDeleteFor the rest of your comment, well, see Mr gilstrap's reply.
Inverness CT? Oh, sorry, they lost to them, in their own backyard.
ReplyDeleteWhy would he want to go to a team like us? Erm, well, like every other footballer I guess: bigger wages.
ReplyDeleteEnjoy your season in the sun. Won't last. And you won't hit the heights of 1967 this year either. And you call us deluded.
You mean like back in 1968, 1975, 1977, 1978, 1979, 1980, 1981, 1982, 1984, 1985.
ReplyDeleteAs I've said before, I have nothing against your club or it's supporters, but some of you lot come on here and post rubbish without thinking. Doesn't exactly depict you as the brightest bunch of people.
You have won one European trophy 45 years ago and harp on about how great a club you are.
ReplyDeleteNo-one on here said that you are not a big club, but you may be just not as important to the world of football as you think.
Show me a list of players from the world scene that you have not recommended that BR should sign, I would take money that if he listened to you Jaimie he could start his own BR-EPL including a reserve team.
ReplyDeleteCeltic fans suffer from a permanent case of feeling like they have to prove themselves and their club to the world. I think the excitement has finally gotten to them, all the repressed enthusiasm from centuries of only ever getting to play against one serious opponent is coming out. One season of decent CL form and now they think they're a real football team.
ReplyDeleteawesome buddy. Thanks for the tip. I suffer badly with a well known condition which ironically I cant spell lol. So I really need that edit option hahaha
ReplyDeleteKeep the stats coming, personally I love them mate.
ReplyDeleteYes, and I'll show you a list of posters incapable of comprehending the simplest information, and you would be top of the list.
ReplyDeleteIf you read what I write properly, I rarely recommended that LFC sign someone. I present the the transfer news (which 95% of the time comes from direct quotes from Agents, players, Chief Execs, Owners etc), and give my opinion.
I THINK HOOPER WILL BE BETTER CHOICE THAN STURRIDGE
ReplyDeleteThanks for the encouragement, but we have to think about other visitors like Mr gilstrap, too. He might get a fit if I confront him with too many statistics. And we don't want that, do we.
ReplyDeleteI can't be dyslexia as your spelling is way to good to have that condition. But there are some candidates on here who might have it.
ReplyDeleteLook, i have great memories of watching Liverpool in the 80s when they where a top team. However they are now a total mess and boring to watch. Celtic are huge, i live in Australia and Celtic clubs and shirts are everywhere with no sign of Liverpool tops. I watched Villa tear Liverpool apart last week and they are 'rotten'. We will make 20 million from the CL this season while Liverpool will probably look for another new manager and try to avoid relegation. SKY cash is the difference, however unlikely, i think if Celtic got those sort of TV funds we would be one of the top 3 clubs in the world. We have more fans, we do better ' walk ons' there is no contest. Hail Hail. Alex (Gold cost) Australia.
ReplyDeleteNo it is, you will notice I put words twice sometimes, and miss letters off the front or end of some words, I try to re-read most posts so I can correct them, but usually even when re-reading I don`t see them, until I come back to them later lol
ReplyDeleteI didn't notice that in your comments, honestly.
ReplyDeletehaha, For me I think stats back up reason. Without the use of them, people can become to emotive about things, and therefore think with their heart not there head. I think as Football is also a emotive sport, you need both stats and heart, Some things just can`t be measured, like ones love for his team, other things can. Logic tho is for me the overriding main thing which people don`t have lol. Like this Celtic bigger than Liverpool thing, Logic by some has been lost, so has reason and stats, and purely heart is at play, causing some people to act in a certain way, or take offense to certain things, when none was meant. For me, I know Man Utd are a better team than us, it might pain me, but it doesn`t make it different, there still better. I don`t see it as offensive if a Man Utd fan says we are a better team than you, as its true.
ReplyDeleteI'd actually be interested in this list :-)
ReplyDeleteAgreed. Emotion wins over logic way to often. It's a bit like not seeing the forest for the trees.
ReplyDeletelook, I'm from Malaysia..apart from big football fans, no one over here knows who Celtic is! As for Liverpool..well, even me mam knows, and she doesnt give a shite about football. sory celtic mate..Fact!
ReplyDelete£20 million... Real world... ha!
ReplyDeleteYes Celtic are a great club and we shouldn't forget the fantastic ties between LFC and Celtic but go to Asia and show a typical football fan an LFC shirt and a Celtic shirt (or America, North or South, or Africa) and I'd bet they'd recognise the LFC shirt first.
ReplyDeleteAnyway, I think you've got a great club that means so much to it's fans and I'd have loved to have seen you in the English leagues much like Cardiff and Swansea.
Hi Jaimie, does the comments software allow for a dislike button? Some people might then just hit dislike rather than post insults as replies
ReplyDeleteWhoever came up with the £7m price tag, you deserve a comedy award for that mate!
ReplyDelete£7m wouldn't even buy Gary Hooper's left testicle. If he goes, he will go for at LEAST double that. Especially if he gets an England call up in the new year. £7m, Hah!!!!
Once again: please post a list of SPL strikers throughout history who've gone for more than £10m. It never happens, and Hooper will not change that, no matter how good you think he is;.
ReplyDeleteAnd warning to all Scottish folk if your willing to listen to stereotypes then your as thick as this Scouser. Hooper won't leave Celtic in January why would he? He's in the Champions league last 16 scoring goals for fun (albeit in the SPL). He will move in the summer most likely between £8-£10m. You Liverpool fans seem to think your still have a massive pull for players? Not a chance apart from Gerrard and Suarez your team is less than average as has been shown on many occasions this season. The SPL isn't the best standard by any means granted but your arrogance is unbelievable... You enjoying watching us in the CL this season from your sofa?
ReplyDeleteWell now back in the real world... German research company ah the greatest reliable source eh? Anyone who knows football will know we are a much bigger club than Liverpool in terms of fan base.
ReplyDeleteThe only thing that makes Liverpool bigger than Celtic is the Premier League. Put Liverpool in the SPL and you'd have 5,000 punters turning up at Anfield and no-one in Malaysia, China or anywhere else giving a damn.
ReplyDeleteCeltic still have 50-60,000 turning up, every second week, took 80,000 travelling fans to southern Spain for a UEFA Cup final.
Put Celtic in the Premier League, you could build a 120,000-seater stadium in Glasgow's east end and it wouldn't nearly be big enough. The global brand of Celtic, its routes as a charity organisation, its embracing of ethnic minorities throughout its history etc, etc would make it a far more enticing story for sponsors and potential fans alike - if they were playing in the Premier League.