In 2009, Rafa Benitez was linked with a €10m move for Turkish star Arda Turan, a self-confessed Liverpool fan. The tricky winger ended up moving to Atletico Madrid, but the Reds have kept tabs on the winger ever since, and now, Turan's Agent has confirmed that the skilful winger will definitely be leaving La Liga this summer.
Discussing Turan's future on Turkish television channel TRT last night, Ahmed Bulut - the player's Agent - said:
"Arda wants to play for another club, to live a different experience. We are working now to make it happen.
"Atletico know what our intention is. If all goes well, Arda will leave the Madrid club at the end of this season."
When pressed on a possible destination, Bulut claimed there are a small number of clubs who could afford to sign the 25-year-old:
"There are only five teams in Europe who can bear the cost of the transfer of Arda and he will leave for one those five clubs"
With respect to Turan, we're talking about a player who cost Madrid €12m; he's not Messi or Ronaldo, and even if his transfer value has increased by, say, 50% (unlikely), then he would cost €18m, which is eminently affordable for many clubs around Europe.
Liverpool are still tracking Turan. Indeed, in October, the club sent an 'observer' Liverpool sent an 'observer' to watch himin Turkey's World Cup qualifier with Romania.
Turan has made it clear several times in the past that he wants to join Liverpool. At the time of Benitez's pursuit in 2009, he said:
"I most want to play at Liverpool because of the culture of the club and the fans"
A year later, he reiterated his Anfield preference:
"As I always mention, Liverpool attracts me because of their tradition. In Europe, I am a Liverpool supporter, so if I go to play in Europe, I would like to play for them".
A couple of months ago, Nuri Sahin posted a picture on his Twitter account of Turan in a Liverpool shirt, so perhaps the Reds midfielder will try and persuade his countryman to come to Anfield?
Having said that, Turan's recent injury history is a concern; in the last 15 months, he's suffered three separate incidents, and the last thing Liverpool need right now is to buy more injury-prone players.
Worth a bid?
Jaimie Kanwar
Discussing Turan's future on Turkish television channel TRT last night, Ahmed Bulut - the player's Agent - said:
"Arda wants to play for another club, to live a different experience. We are working now to make it happen.
"Atletico know what our intention is. If all goes well, Arda will leave the Madrid club at the end of this season."
When pressed on a possible destination, Bulut claimed there are a small number of clubs who could afford to sign the 25-year-old:
"There are only five teams in Europe who can bear the cost of the transfer of Arda and he will leave for one those five clubs"
With respect to Turan, we're talking about a player who cost Madrid €12m; he's not Messi or Ronaldo, and even if his transfer value has increased by, say, 50% (unlikely), then he would cost €18m, which is eminently affordable for many clubs around Europe.
Liverpool are still tracking Turan. Indeed, in October, the club sent an 'observer' Liverpool sent an 'observer' to watch himin Turkey's World Cup qualifier with Romania.
Turan has made it clear several times in the past that he wants to join Liverpool. At the time of Benitez's pursuit in 2009, he said:
"I most want to play at Liverpool because of the culture of the club and the fans"
A year later, he reiterated his Anfield preference:
"As I always mention, Liverpool attracts me because of their tradition. In Europe, I am a Liverpool supporter, so if I go to play in Europe, I would like to play for them".
A couple of months ago, Nuri Sahin posted a picture on his Twitter account of Turan in a Liverpool shirt, so perhaps the Reds midfielder will try and persuade his countryman to come to Anfield?
Having said that, Turan's recent injury history is a concern; in the last 15 months, he's suffered three separate incidents, and the last thing Liverpool need right now is to buy more injury-prone players.
Worth a bid?
Jaimie Kanwar
Bit of a typo in the 8th paragraph :)
ReplyDeleteI think many fans would want to see this happen. Injuries are concerning but worth a bid I reckon
He is really creative midfielder worth a bid in my opinion
ReplyDeleteA player to look at in the summer for sure. For now there seems to be nothing. I think Rodgers will go for loan deals this January. Rodgers will probably go for Sturridge on loan or some other crappy, unknown youngster/player.
ReplyDeleteLooks like the agony will continue until next summer. Or even beyond.
Really the club needs Arda in January in the summer is ok though.
ReplyDeletewould be a good signing someone who acctually wants to play for the club and not for the money we should have signed him years ago,better late than never
ReplyDeleteSophian Feghouli. Think he is better...
ReplyDeleteAnd given Valencia's and Atletico's situation probably cheaper...
ReplyDeleteI don't understand why he wants to leave Atletico right now. They're having their best season since the turn of the century and he's only there a short time anyway. It's not like he said, I want to go to LFC and if they come in I'll leave Atletico. He's said that he wants to leave Spain no matter who come in for him with us being his favourites. Maybe we can do a straight swap for Downing :-)
ReplyDeleteEvery good player is worth a bid because our squad is so thin at the moment. I wouldn't mind if our negotiators send out 100 bids this January because the chances of these good players joining is slim - but its worth a shot to let them know we are interested, for the future.
ReplyDeleteSpot on, Jason. Another player who mentioned that he would want to play for us before he moved to Europe is Agüero. Imagine we'd signed him instead of Cissé, Aquilani, Carroll or Allen. (Are you satisfied now that I mention signings from several former managers?)
ReplyDeletethis is the type of player i want...one who talks about the club and not the money...I hope injuries are not a concern ...but then again will Rodgers sign a player who passes forward probably not ...likely hood he will go for Gareth Barry
ReplyDeleteWere Beatles Liverpool or Everton fans? I know, stupid question, but I am really bored...
ReplyDeleteJaimie please- a question.
ReplyDeleteCounter attack, Agger is left alone against a striker and he DECIDES to make a foul trying to prevent him scoring.
Suarez handles the ball to prevent them scoring.
They both know that card is on its' way(and a penalty), but they think that is the better way- maybe opposition won't score and their team will defend well for the rest of the game. For me it is the same situation- doing something against the rules (like 'smart fouls' in the midfield), knowing the consequences.
I am very 'romantic' about football and I hate 'my' players cheating(don't approve Suarez' cheating, but I understood why he did it vs Stoke for example), but for me that was not cheating.
I know we disagree on Stoke situation, but that is another topic, please explain how Agger situation from above and 'smart fouls' are not cheating and handle is.
Just saw your reply...
BR has stated there will be no big name players coming in january ,the whole club is a shambles,loan deals at best with players coming in that aint good enough for there own clubs,Forget about a striker our midfield is a disgrace gerrard is a shadow of the man and legend he was ,,allen is worst than charlie adam,,downing is a clown ,and god knows how sahin ever pulled on a madrid shirt,, RODGERS SPENT 25 million on two donkeys ,and as for FSG there pricks who havent a clue sold maxi and kuyt ,and let carroll leave without a replacement ,the reason carroll left was because of wages not because he didnt fit into the team ,,,FSG tell BR what he has and what he will do,,BR hasnt the balls to confront them and he seems happy to go along until his marching orders are handed out come the summer 2013,,,
ReplyDeleteWould be more fun watching womens beach volleyball than watching Liverpool getting hammered. Even if the team you support loses it was worth your while. Sad. very sad state of affairs
ReplyDeleteagrre rodgers is already talking about not strenghtening to the summer lol please no
ReplyDeleteHe needs to avoid a repeat of last season where Dalglish presided over relegation form from jan to may 2012. We are a lot closer to the bottom than we were then. Any player who can spark us in to life is welcome.
ReplyDeleteIs this the most keen reply you can come up with?
ReplyDelete"Pricks" seems to be a word Jaimie hasn't put into his word filter.
ReplyDeleteTo be fair, Maxi and Kuyt both wanted to leave. Furthermore you seem to have some inside information given that you allegedly know why Carroll was allowed to leave on loan. Would you be so kind and provide your source for that?
i meant lol whats satisfiying me got to do with it ,please your self don,t worry about me
ReplyDeleteGracias.
ReplyDeleteI've never argued that 'smart fouling' is not cheating. Re the Agger example: It's a deliberate attempt to gain an unfair advantage, ergo it's cheating (IMO).
ReplyDeletekopite1977 - Please do not personally insult players, the manager or FSG. Thanks.
ReplyDeleteI had the singular version, but have now included both.
ReplyDeleteWell than you will give Lucas couple of posts as the biggest cheat ever, right?
ReplyDeleteIt's pretty obvious that I have a very different attitude towards people, even on the internet, than you.
ReplyDeleteBy the way didn't say you argued smart fouls is not cheating, just made the assumption since I never heard you say he is a cheat, Lucas or any other dm...
ReplyDeleteThere is a massive difference between fouling someone and deliberately handballing/diving. The latter bring massive disrepute onto the image of football and the club, whereas fouling is part and parcel of the game, even if it's deliberate. Additionally, there is never any doubt about intent when it comes to diving: the player always intends to deceive the ref and dive. With fouls, often, they're just horribly mistimed, rather than deliberate.
ReplyDeleteIt's a mater of prioritisation: when highlighting/tackling cheating, focus ont he worst things first, and the offences that are massively dishonest and damaging (diving, feigning injury, deliberate handball on the line and/or to score a goal), are the worst, and have the greatest negative consequence on a game (via goals being scored/penalties given/players being carded/image of the game etc)
Orme, your point is tenuous at best. The comparison you are trying to make just isn't valid.
ReplyDeletesorry for the insults ,but when you bleed lfc sometimes you have to tell it like it is something rodgers hasnt done yet to his below average players,,
ReplyDeletesorry your a wonderful person and i,am not there you go sleep easy
ReplyDeleteThis past Thursday, Liverpool and new boss Brendan Rodgers made the call to accept a deal to loan striker Andy Carroll to West Ham.
ReplyDeleteThe news wasn’t overly surprising, given that Rodgers seemed to think that Carroll's playing style did not fit with Liverpool. Still, the mere £1 million, combined with Carroll’s salary for the year, was a low price for West Ham to pay.
This is coming just two seasons after Liverpool purchased Carroll from Newcastle with a £35 million bid.
The move by Liverpool showed a clear intent to save money and get Andy Carroll out of town. LOOK UP THE NET THATS WHAT ITS THERE FOR,,,
Cheating is on top of the list, for sure.
ReplyDeleteBut handling to save the goal is different- when you dive you go for advantage without giving anything away, when you handle you exchange extra man and a penalty for not conceeding- preety fair?
It is- smart foul and handle is going against rules knowing you will get punished (handling even more so), unlike diving which is going against fair play and rules trying to avoid punishment- punishment is not an option for the diver.
ReplyDeleteCould you please highlight where it says that, as you've claimed before, Carroll was allowed to leave "because of wages not because he didn't fit into the team". I mean, not some crude interpretation.
ReplyDeleteIt may be telling it like it is or it may not. It definitely is what you think it is like.
ReplyDeleteIf only the world was so easy to describe, everything is black and white.
ReplyDeleteI'm with you on that one, Orme. So-called tactical fouls aren't any better than stopping the ball from going in with a deliberate hand-ball. Both are deliberate and cheating, though one is considered a serious crime and the other is considered as being part of the game (not according to the book, though).
ReplyDeleteIf you get fair punishment for what you do and accept it- it is not cheating.
ReplyDeleteSo I guess you are not with me, after all..
TBH Turan although a tidy player would not necessarily set Anfield alight. His record for At Madrid is not all that. Plus he does not create much either. Would much rather prefer someone else.
ReplyDeleteNo. Not a goal scorer.
ReplyDeleteDon't know really. When Suarez stopped that shot on goal against Ghana I didn't think it was cheating. I would have done the same thing.
ReplyDeleteYeees! Everybody would. Ghanaians (is that how you spell it?) are only mad at him because he fcuked them, not because he was cheating..
ReplyDeleteBeen a decent signing for Atleti but not been out of this world, though then again, if he was, we would have no chance. With not a lot of money in Spanish football beyond the big two, always a chance for us to buy from that league. Atleti had their EL winnings held by UEFA back in September due to outstanding payments (might have been sorted now), which illustrates possibly how bad things are financially over there. Atleti may well have to either sell Falcao for big money or sell a few of the other players, or even maybe both!
ReplyDeleteSometimes LFC needed to break the bank to get world class players.Christian Erikson and Tello will be good candidates for new wingers.If we cannot get Radamel Falcao, Edison Cavani and Mario Gotze, why not we try to get David Villa, Fernando Llorente or Mario Gomez? Or maybe can make surprise signing Gonzalo Higuin or Karim Benzema.....hehehe. I love it.......
ReplyDeletewhy not he is a good player and wants to play here
ReplyDeleteGuess that's how you spell it.
ReplyDeleteThe commentator on German telly didn't like it either, but most of my mates, all of whom play the game themselves, agreed that it's simply what one would do out of reflex in such a situation. Wonder what the media would have said if, say, England would have achieved something because of an action like that.
If we are throwing names of players around that wouldn't join a club outside the Champions League, I'd like to add Neymar.
ReplyDeletecrude interpretation ,,didnt rodgers state that you cant have a 35 million pound player collecting a wage from the bench,,funny thing is the yanks are all about the money,,if you think otherwise ur deluded,,they just signed victarino for 39 million for the red socks and they wouldnt go an extra million for dempsey,,,truth is the yanks see liverpool as an investment on a global market ,success is a bonus but they are more worried about marketing the brand,,one of the first things they said after buying liverpool was they where surprised how far behind they were as a global brand considering the fan base they have,,,truth is a really dont have a problem with fsg but boston red socks is there main concern not lfc and to watch only loan deals and tit bits of players being linked to us after the honeymoon period was over ,,has me thinking a la gillett hicks,, oh and to advertise lfc on channel 5 showing the in,s and outs of a club that always kept there affairs behind closed doors showed it was all about the money,,,,come january we,ll see what big name players they buy and if soo i,ll be the first to grovel to you ,,,
ReplyDeletegrow up fuck face
ReplyDeletego eat a fart sandwich
ReplyDeleteCongratulations for this well thought-out, intelligent reply, which is obviously the very best a person like you could come up with. You truly are the pinnacle of evolution. If only the entire world would be populated with such well educated people like you. There would be no wars, no crime, no hatred, nothing bad at all, simply because the entire population would have long gone extinct, just like your ancestors, the Neanderthal.
ReplyDeletethought i told you go eat a fart sandwich
ReplyDeletefrom one sentence you sum me up to a tee congratulations for your well thought out intelligent reply which is the best a person like you can come up with,you truly are the pinnacle of evolution.if only the entire world would be populated with such well educated people like you.there would be no wars no crime no hatred nothing bad at all,simply because the entire population would have long gone extinct,I see your ancestors anteater are the aardvark a pig like creature.The greatly elongated head is set on a short, thick neck, and the end of the snout bears a disc, which houses the nostrils. The mouth is small and tubular, typical of species that feed on termites. The aardvark has a long, thin, snakelike, protruding tongue and elaborate structures supporting a keen sense of smell that explains why your mother looks the way she does
ReplyDeleteQuite fond of recycling an an artice on this site...
ReplyDeleteYes, an intelligent reply might be the best a person like me can come up with.
ReplyDeleteYou are indeed very good at transcribing my comment. Is that your profession? Counterfeiting?
I won't explain to you the thinking behind my user-name. Anyway, pigs are considered to be pretty intelligent animals, so even you next attempt to insult me still doesn't work. Did you copy the description of the anteater from Wikipedia. Sorry for asking such a silly question, it's pretty obvious that you wouldn't have know all those things in the first place.
What my mother has got to do with all this is way beyond me. Well, it is the kind of attempted insult school children try. Is that what you are? A little school boy? Do your parents know that you mix with adults on the internet instead of doing your homework? They must be so proud of you that you come on here and try to insult people, because it is the best you can do. If I were one of them, I'd worry about your future. Vacancies for people who can do nothing else but insult others are rare nowadays, I've heard. They are probably not well paid anyway. You could still become a thug. Insulting people is daily business there, but it has a downside. You may spend most of your life in prison.
You know what, I think you should win the non-existent comment of the day award for you initial insult as this will be the only thing you will ever achieve in life.
Just like the rest of the world I don't care one bit about what you tell people to do. You've probably got more attention from me on here today than you usually get in an entire year in your so-called real life.
ReplyDeletei hit a raw nerve with you and that at least has made my day,,,lol and to think that you went to the bother to look up wiki made me laugh ,,,sorry to disappoint you but i have a very well paid job,,and smarty i said aardvark not pig she your whole speech that took you an hour to type is pointless just like you,,also you heard my parents arent well paid tut tut tut who is the child now ,,,sad really you cant even realise when ur making an bell end of urself,,,just to prove i have hit a raw nerve go on reply lol
ReplyDeleteSorry to disappoint you, but, no, you didn't.
ReplyDeleteHe's said 'from the bench'. My 'crude' interpretation for that would be that it has footballing reasons.
ReplyDeleteI don't contest your assumption that our club is an investment to FSG, but would like to point out that they surely don't want the value of that investment to plummet. Therefore, and to sell us on a profit some time in the future, the club must be back in the CL. To achieve that our income has to be improved (as well as the playing staff). Can't see anything wrong with that.
The general 'Americanisation' of our club is something that is alien to me and to many others I guess, but then we are all romantics in one way or another, aren't we. The world is changing and so is the sporting world. Guess the best we can do is hope that FSG get it right.
He'd just rot on the bench anyway, like Sahin, what with Captain Fantastic, and Rodgers pet Joe Allen in the team. Our powderpuff frontline is where the attention needs to be given anyway.
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