1 Dec 2012

Luis Suarez banned after shameless handball vs. Southampton. Cheating?

After a long injury lay-off, Brazilian midfielder Lucas Leiva returns to the Liverpool starting line-up to face Southampton today.

After the midweek defeat to Spurs, today's game is yet another must-win affair, and if the Reds don't get a victory today then serious questions will need to be asked about the direction of the club.

Thankfully, Jordan Henderson and Stewart Downing are back where they belong on the bench, and the team looks full of attacking promise:

FULL TEAM:

Reina, Johnson, Skrtel, Agger, Enrique, Lucas, Gerrard, Allen, Sterling, Suarez, Shelvey

SUBS:

Jones, Carragher, Sahin, Henderson, Downing, Suso, Wisdom.

Reacting to the line-up, former LFC star Jason McAteer said:

"If he's 100% right, you pick Lucas. Allen is the more creative player of the two, so I think it can work. Lucas is great at giving the ball to people who can do the things he can't do, and there's no one better in the Premier League at doing that"

Reds legend Mark Lawrenson predicts a 2-0 win:

"Southampton are unbeaten in four games now but the Saints are not great at the back full-stop and I get the feeling that Liverpool will get at their defence, and get through them"

Probable formation:

------------------ Reina

Johnson ----- Skrtel ----- Agger ---- Enrique

-------------------- Lucas

-------------- Allen ----- Shelvey

Gerrard ---------------------------- Sterling

-------------------- Suarez

FULL TIME

Not a vintage performance, but three points is all that matters, and the club is now 11th in the table, only 7 points off fourth place.

For me, the game was marred by Luis Suarez's shameless and deliberate attempt to score a goal with his hand in the second half. Most fans will predictably gloss over the incident, but it just goes to show once again that Suarez cheats instinctively; it's in his nature, which is why it's such a problem.

Why is it okay for Suarez to deliberately try and score a goal with his hand? Obviously, it's not, but mark my words, fans will falling over themselves to defend Suarez yet again, even though his cheating has led to a one-game ban, which could hurt the team. A few other points:

* Solid return from Lucas; defensively, he was superb, but his passing was awry at times.

* Disappointing to see Gerrard played in midfield as opposed to higher up the field.

* Glen Johnson and Jose Enrique played really well offensively.

* Handball aside, Suarez was superb at times; lots of great touches and effective passes, and yet another nutmeg :-)

* Joe Allen played slightly higher up the field, and made quite a few penetrating forward passes. He'll grow into the role.

* What happened to Assaidi? Not in the squad yet again. It's ridiculous - why is Rodgers treating him this way? If he's not good enough, why buy him in the first place?

Jaimie Kanwar


182 comments:

  1. What a hilarious quote from McAteer!

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  2. 4 central midfielders thats shocking, why allen, lucas is back now rest him a bit and he was very poor recently, and why shelvey to miss sitters again, will assaidi ever start a game hes not even on bench rodgers is ruining his career big time, I just dont get this manager at all, a strange minded

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  3. it will be shelvey were gerrard is jamie thats proberly the way it will end up! or if you are correct then play a 4 3 1 2 sterling behind gerrard and suarez

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  4. Questions about 'Direction of the club'? yes I agree. I don't think it should however question the direction of the manager. I can see two BR signings in that 18 man squad. In the words of BR 'We're coaches, not magicians'. You'll need a pretty big wand to get goals out of that party.

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  5. Just look at the bench, and it shows you where Lfc are at, depressing even if we win.

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  6. nice to see Lucas back hopefully wisdom is back to starting line up fitness soon so he can go right back, push johnson to left back and have enrique bombing up the left again, GET IN THERE YOU BALD BEARDED NUTTER!!!!!

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  7. i agree we can risk playing less gifted players passing wise and introduce more attacking threat against southampton, also assaidi hasn't even made the bench so perhaps hees picked up a knock

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  8. i agree mate assaidi will be kicking himself thinking why did i come here! great player and should start these games to get used to the prem

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  9. no more excuses for allen today lets see what we spent 15 million on because hes been crap so far

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  10. This will be interesting as we will be facing Ramirez who has been playing well lately and who we should have paid the money for rather then Allen or Borini, we can see first hand of another mistake Rodgers has made

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  11. Agree - the treatment of Assaidi is really frustrating. Why isn't he in the squad again? It's ridiculous. This is a guy with a solid past history, and now Rodgers is wasting him.

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  12. He will be outstanding mate he always is and if you doubt what i say listen to Rodgers after the match he will back me up :)

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  13. Yes that is a classic lol

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  14. In other news: Chelsea losing 3-1 to West Ham. Benitez already under intense pressure after only 3 games in charge. If things continue in that manner, he could suffer the ignominy of being sacked before Christmas. Abramovich is definitely capable of that.

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  15. I have a feeling a lot of chelsea players just dont wanna play for him

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  16. your right we can lose 3/0 but we will be the better team ;-] lol

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  17. you love it ? how about if we don,t win today running a poll on rodgers you could title it are you losing faith in tikka takka lol

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  18. We could lose 3-0 and he could have scored all 3 but his contribution would still outstanding and it was just bad luck that the goalkeeper was returning from clearing the ball upfield and couldnt get to Allens pass quick enough lol

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  19. "Great player" is stretching it a bit! I agree that Assaidi should be starting a lot more than he is though - no wonder Sterling is expecting starting calibre wages if he's going to be starting every game.

    Flair players deserve a run of games to show what they're capable of, not to be written off every time a few runs fail to come off, as seems to be happening with Assaidi.

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  20. whats more annoying is he spent money on him he says it will take time then dosen,t even play the players hes bought in apart from his golden child

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  21. Ramirez would've been almost as much of a waste of money for us as Allen and Borini were. We needed quality ballwinners, wingers and forwards, not central midfielders.

    Diame, Dembele, Martinez and Sturridge would've been ideal additions to the squad imo...

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  22. dont even tempt fate hes more likely to score an og than a goal for us you have to play forward to score lol

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  23. Rafa can't make any excuses now.

    That Chelsea squad is more than good enough to win the league.

    Where will Rafa go after this?

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  24. Sturridge? cant agree with that 1 sorry, but the others i agree with, and the point i am making is at least he would have been value for money Allen and Borini have been far from that at present, and Ramirez, Sterling and Suarez would have been much more potent a threat then say Shelvey, Sterling and Suarez, Ramirez is looking classier every week

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  25. The Chelsea fans don't want him there.

    Now everyone can understand what Hodgson went through. HA HA

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  26. I dont think the players want him there either, apart from Torres like lol

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  27. Assaidi didn't look too convincing in the Prem so far to be honest. And Gerrard was at his very best when he played on the right. Guess he will be deployed there today. Not much wrong with that, but some people are not happy unless they have something to moan about.

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  28. Gerrard up top is could be the catalyst

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  29. That's really interesting. Now he has all those world class players at his disposal he couldn't sign when with us. And some people out there are still trying to convince us that he would bring instant success if he would manage us.

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  30. The excuses for Rafa will never stop. Fact is that if he draws or loses another match at Chelsea then he will just be waiting for Abramovich's call telling him that he is fired.

    He will never manage in England again after Chelsea. That is for sure.

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  31. Dominated first half and 1-0 up. Jason Carr you are so negative that you put many women to shame!! I bet you gonna moan now that the goal came from a Agger as oppose to one of our attackers. You sound just like a true chelski fan!!

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  32. Well if Rafa runs out of excuses then he'll find plenty apologists amongst our own fans. And if they have their way, then he'll be back managing us in not time. Some people can't spot a priest on a mountain of sugar, eh.

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  33. How we are not five nil up at half-time is anyone's guess. No, I'm not having a dig at the manager! Sterling looks a long way from a player worth 50k a week. The Soton keeper spills a lot of balls. There should be someone right there in front of him for some tap-ins.

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  34. I see Henderson is on for Allen that means no more goals us then

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  35. Can anyone explain to me why Henderson is getting so many games?

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  36. listen was that great display because if your happy with a 1/0 win over southampton then obviously easy pleased decent 1st half crap second half no offence but with no suarez next week it will be like watching paint dry and also what did allen do naff all,don,t mind you calling me negative but you should state your reasons on second thoughts don,t bother because i don,t give a f"ck what you think

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  37. i,ve replyed to your post but i think its not been past,so i will put it another way .i could not give a toss about your opinion

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  38. we won yay ..... suarez suspended noooo

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  39. allen was hardly instrumental in any of the good attacks i saw

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  40. That's what happens when you're an instinctual cheat. It's in his blood. Why else would Suarez try and handball his way to a goal?

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  41. not going to be much entertainment next match lol but insome people eyes he should be banned for ten games for handball

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  42. Asaidi had a great start to his pool career but recently his form has been very poor.. The man seems to have lots of self doubt and his plays look disillusioned

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  43. Rodgers is not going anywhere anytime soon as he will be given time and there is another plain and simple fact which is that FSG will never employ Rafa so no need to worry about him coming back mate.

    Rafa did the worst thing taking the Chelsea job though. He will not manage in England again as soon as Abramovich shows him the door. I said a long time ago that it is best for him to go back to Spain. he will never learn, will he?

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  44. No one wants u on here, no one obviously likes what u have to say, so why not do all us a favour and book yourself into a rehab, as its obvious u need counselling.

    On that note bitch, I'm gonna leave u to simmer and head out to enjoy the rest of my day.

    You will always walk alone!!

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  45. I get the feeling you just make those statements to draw controversy and interest in your articles. And no, i'm not a Suarez fanboy but of course, you'll say I am and generalize me as part of a "Cult of Suarez"; Suarez was rightly booked, and he will rightly miss the next game. His behavior was wrong, but that's not in anyway the focal point of this match.

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  46. the guy is a class act but he does have some bad qualities but say what most of the greats had bad moments, zidane, maradona, messi, ronahldino, henry etc

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  47. the hand ball looked more like a instinct rather than cheating

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  48. Come on Jaimie, lighten up.

    We should be happy we have such a great player at our club and fact is that any team in the world would jump at the chance to take him from us. Give the lad a break :)

    Bale is the most blatant cheat I have ever seen. He got booked again for diving today. He needs to receive a ban for his actions.

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  49. Ask any regular visitor - I make these statements because I'm anti-cheating, and always have been. Suarez is a cheat. It's that simple, and the handball means he misses the next game. I'd say that is important.

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  50. Typical out of town fan . Biggest drama queen on the Internet
    Bore off

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  51. Agree. Wonder who is going to sit in for him against West Ham?

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  52. Think Mike Ngoo should be on the bench next game, as Suarez is banned. I know he's seen as old school tall striker, but he's reasonably mobile, eye for a goal and physical (needed against Hammers). We'll prob start 'Shelves' as the focal point, but adopt a Spain 'no striker/6 mids' team.

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  53. Did you go to the game today drama queen ? And I bet you nearly jizzed in your pants when Suarez did his hand of god .
    Jamie the drama queen

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  54. So you're happy to slate Bale but Suarrz gets a pass because he plays for LFC? Slightly hypocritical don't you think? Grreat ability is no excuse for cheating; that's where me and most people differ.

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  55. I hope you're right. Actually think the same way, but then those calling for Rodger's head and new owners make way too much noise, given that they are the minority amongst LFC supporters.

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  56. I agree 100%. The Suarez witch hunt continues from Jamie..........
    The game wasn't marred by Luis' handball at all.

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  57. I thought it was pretty obvious during the last few matches that Rodgers had a word with Suarez as he had cut out his diving. How about focusing on that?

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  58. Jaimie, if the ball had to end up in the back of the net it wouldn't have counted anyway.

    This makes me thing of a match where we played Everton years ago. Phil Neville cleared the ball of the goal line with his hand and got sent of. It was instinct. We scored from the penalty spot and won the match.

    Compare Bale's diving to that of Suarez and there is one hell of a difference. Bale takes the cake. Plus Suarez has behaved for a while.

    Make love not war :)

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  59. Indeed, it constitutes cheating; and it's wrong. Yet, when Barcelona play the main headline is not gonna be "BUSQUETS DIVES, on the other hand 8-0 to Barca".

    I understand your viewpoint, yet i'm against the sensationalist touch you give to this situation. "CHEATER!", is the kind of headline all those tabloids use, and I think you know how they take something (that most of times is true) and blow it out of proportion.

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  60. I am right. One thing is for sure, FSG are not a daft bunch.

    If they really wanted Benitez then they would have approached him when they let Kenny go.

    Rafa even admitted that FSG never made contact with him for the job so you can relax, Benitez and LFC will never be again.

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  61. Hm all of a sudden you have to approve my comment? -_-

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  62. You need to book yourself in a rehab coz you're one depressing son of gun!!

    No one is interested in your pathetic comments...

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  63. Please read the comment policy (left side of page) - the word filter strikes again. It happens.

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  64. How does that have any bearing on what happened today?

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  65. Hey, guess what: it's my opinion. Deal with it.

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  66. Suarez's diving is just as bad as Bale's

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  67. Chelsea have the quality but considering they even have to play club world cup, their squad is quite thin and also they don't have the strikers to score enough goals for them in order to win the league.

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  68. If you start talkin about triangles and 70% possession, you've been rumbled (Brendan!);). Who do reckon should get a run out in the 'false 9' fella.. Anyone but J Cole, maybe Danny Patch?

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  69. Sure, but what will FSG do as soon as the IRWT brigade starts a few marches?

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  70. Many wouldn't have thought that he could behave himself. He is trying to stay on his feet much more, not going down at sight anymore. I am glad about this development. These are signs of him maturing. As for his handball, well, have you played the game yourself, Jaimie? I did for more than 30 years and currently don't simply because I live in a small village without a team. This is very much a reflex (hand going to the ball in that situation). Happens all of the time. Don't get me wrong, I am against cheating, but we are in the wrong sport for that. Most players cheat in one way or the other. That doesn't make it right, but I don't see the point in singling out Suarez. He isn't a saint, but he isn't worse than others. And, as I've stated above, he shows signs of maturing. Can the same be said of, say, Bale or Robben? There you go. I'll give praise when someone tries to improve his behaviour.

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  71. Your typical response to criticism when it comes to the subject of Suarez. Your opinion right, not facts.

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  72. Funny user-name, kind of.

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  73. Where did I say my view was fact? Stop making stuff up. You clearly just can't handle people having a different opinion to you. I have my view on Suarez; if you don't like it, tough luck.

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  74. no, not a pass. but blimey the focus on suerez seems disproportionate. there are others out there doing more than him. you, and others in the press, don't like him, fair enough. but, at least make sure that others get just as much attention. don't worry though, you et al will get your wish and he will be driven out of the PL. shame, but at least we'll get a good price for him. :)

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  75. Liverpool fans shouldn't come here, this fella is allways slating liverpool, very rare you see him promote the good things about Liverpool, I heard before he's a dirty Manc

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  76. More excuses. You will never get away from excuses, excuses, excuses.

    Rafa only ever likes to play with one striker anyway just as he did while he was at LFC.

    He is not made for the EPL and will never be. He needs to go back to Spain where his style of play is suited.

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  77. I was about to comment that at times your reflex's can play a part, not making an excuse as the booking was deserved, but no matter what Suarez does JK always highlights the negatives with him, people make mistakes its human nature but as you say he is maturing and changing which is great, but you can be sure no matter what he does certain people will jump all over the slightest mistake

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  78. They were ok when Kenny left? FSG will know how to deal with the IRWT brigade. They are not Tom and Jerry.

    This I can assure you mate, if FSG will not bring back Rafa, they will be selling their soul to the devil. IT IS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.

    Trust me on this.

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  79. Please, change the record already. This 'Suares is a victim' nonsense is tired, and anyone who isn't biased can see that he is not treated differently. The press hassle he gets is self inflicted, and deserved.
    I support LFC, not Suarez FC, and his cheating makes the club look bad, and that bothers me.
    You can keep being an enabling fan though; that's your prerogative.

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  80. take out the 'if' before FSG LOL

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  81. Not a chance. You have even posted articles on Bale's diving Jaimie. It is like night and day if you had to compare the two.

    Bale is without a doubt the most prolific diver in world football and I think most will agree that Suarez is not anywhere near as good as Bale when it comes to diving.

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  82. Either Gerrard or Shelvey.

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  83. missing my turtle neck, got circumcised last week... call it withdrawral symptoms..

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  84. didn't say he is 'a victim'. was saying others who do the same and more should be given just as much attention as he gets for what he does!
    what makes the club look bad atm is BR the Office.
    and, likewise, you can 'keep being an enabling fan'. :)

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  85. Ronaldo runs him close, but i agree Bale is worse then Suarez and is definately the most prolific diver in the premier league.

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  86. The comparison is ultimately pointlesss. It's like arguing over who's the better murderer: Jack the Ripper or Ted Bundy. They're both murderers, so who cares?
    Similarly, Bale and Suarez both have a history if diving. Why does it matter if one is more theatrical than the other?
    It's just another tactic to dilute the issue; like the Benitez apologists, the Suarez apologists are good at that :-)

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  87. Don't think they will, either, but there is always that slight concern within me regarding a section of our fans. They have the ability to drive owners out of the club. This can be a good thing (see H&G), but this can also be a very bad thing. As soon as some glorified fan gets a hissy fit and infects more and more people, this could back-fire badly. I don't think this scenario is very likely right now, but, as I've said, there is this slight concern. I'd wonder if anybody would be interested in buying a club where the fans have force two sets of owners to sell-up.

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  88. Changing article title and contents repeatedly kinda invalidates the pre-existing comments......

    Backing down on the sensationalist "Cheat!" title from a few minutes ago?

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  89. I actually thought about circumcision when reading that user-name. There's no way back for you.

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  90. Jamie you really are an annoying twerp with this kind of talk.

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  91. Have a day off "instinctual cheat"? it was a reflex thing.

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  92. Please, I implore you, grow up. I am entitled to my opinion, yet people like you just can't hack it. Why else would you respond in this manner? It just proves you're intolerant of views that don't match your own, so you try and shout down/belittle the person having them. Such is life. Pretty pathetic really.

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  93. Yes, because every player would instinctively try and direct the ball into the net with their hand.

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  94. It doesn't invalidate the comments - the content of the post is still the same, I've just added to it. I could post a new article but the incident is connected to the game, so what's the point? Additionally, the original title was about the confirmed team, and that's now out of date.

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  95. Without Rafa at the club, FSG will not be able to be driven out. FSG did their homework before they bought the club. They know all about Benitez and how the red carpet gets rolled out for him. That is why i am saying they will not take that chance. They would be utterly insane to bring benitez back.

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  96. Jaimie you have some vendetta against Suarez. Why not focus on the positives instead of analyzing everything Suarez does.

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  97. Well let's agree to disagree.

    That way both of us can walk away feeling better ;-)

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  98. jamie just come and say you want suarez gone..must you focus on the negative....he is a controversial and has a strong will to win...rodgers has spoken to him about his diving which he has reduced immensly,you just cant change him completely jamie..the trouble maker in him would always come out sometimes..he is our player support him damn it...and stop picking on him the way the british press do..which they didnt this week...what about crouch against mancity did anybody complain...leave suarez alone...you're beginning to sound like you support the mancs

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  99. Personally would start Shelvey in no.9, because his through balls aint as good as Stevie's atm. If that isn't working you could always alternate the two them... plus he got a bit of bite to his(can be reckless).

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  100. I think Jack The Ripper because he didn't get caught! ;-))

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  101. Look, to be fair, I don't want my 7 year old son to see diving and 'professionals' acting like clowns on a football pitch.

    Jaimie does have a right to opinion like we all do and this is his site so he can write whatever he feels and likes to. I do not agree with his writings about Suarez but that is why we are all different. It would be a very boring world if everybody agreed with each other.

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  102. wow your boring

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  103. no but they would instinctively put the ball in the net just like a defender would instinctively stop the ball, sometimes you will move your hand and its not like they have thought use my hand as they really dont have the time to think its just a split second thing, doesnt make them instinctual cheats, but then its Suarez so he cant possibly be anything else can he

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  104. Stop trying to censor opinions you don't agree with. That is what you're trying to do, and this is what happens all over the world on a much larger degree: why can't you just accept that I have a right to think what I like? Don't you see that it is you with the problem, not me? You don't see me going around telling people to stop having views about x, y or z, do you? If you disagree, argue against my points.

    Anything other than that and you're just trying to censor views you don't agree with.

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  105. First, how do you know Rodgers has spoked to Suarez? That is supposition, not fact.

    And second - in fact, I can't be bothered. You can keep touting the Suarez conspiracy theory all you like, that's your right. Poor Luis; such a victim of the nasty press.

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  106. jk.........got to give it to him, its taken weeks for suarez to give you the chance to slate him lol. its all passion !!!
    " rafas the special one "

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  107. Yeah, Shelvey probably is the best option.

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  108. yeah so he just decided to reduce it under rodgers not kenny right?????what conspiracy are you talking about jamie....he is talented and controversial deal with it

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  109. Gerrard should be the one i think :)

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  110. Rafa is not going to be so special if he does not win his next match. That I can guarantee.

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  111. Unfortunately diving is part of the game now mate and it pains me to say its probably only gonna get worse

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  112. actually they are i think you will find i have a few running posts with posters on here but hey ho when you get your tongue from up my hosts as$ fell free to comment again

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  113. Yeah, I was getting impatient ;-)

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  114. I praised Suarez in the article too. Or did you (conveniently) miss that.

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  115. If only the FA will man up and do something about it.

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  116. Henry the greatest player to ever grace the prem. Once done the same thing

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  117. jaimie kanwar ? asked you about allen shirt pulling you said shirt pulling is not the same as suarez diving take it shirt pulling is not the same as handball,or is there some personal vendetta against suarez ,in all my time reading your posts you have never praised suarez without back stabbing him in the same article,lucas was superb today and won more tackles than allen has all season also some of his passes were awry because he was attemptting to be creative something allen as not been all season ,and ,allen will grow into the new position all season you have defended him saying he has been playing out of persistion , so make your mind up about him now hes got his role no more excuses he was poor again today ,but lets gloss over that its easier to pick on suarez,finally your not a lfc fan your a football fan ,who follows lfc ,because if you were a fan and it was against man ure in the semi final of the champons league all true fans would not give a f"ck ,because winning is the name of the game ,were you would write a post condemming him

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  118. Blah blah. Same old stuff from you, Jason. Suarez is a great player, but he is also a cheat, and I will continue to highlight all aspects of LFC players diving/cheating, just as I always have done.

    You can keep pushing this 'Suarez is a victim' thing all you like, but it will never be true.

    Your post perfectly sums up the apathetic, enabling nature of so many fans today: you've basically said (again) that you'll accept cheating if it's in a a big/important game.

    Football is a cesspool of cheating and corruption because of fans like *you*. As soon as you start to accept, and then encourage cheating, all standards go out the window. Bravo!

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  119. To do that though would mean them having to come down on certain man ure players and when you consider some of their players have been some of the worst ever seen its unlikely as they wouldnt wanna go to war with red nose, not saying only man ure players have dived as obviously its not only theirs just making an example, so unfortunately looks like were stuck with it in the game

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  120. Yes, and just because he's a great player didn't make it right. He was wrong, and deserved the vilification he got.

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  121. jaimie you censor posts all the time you put posts up on comments then when people reply you delete your comments sorry m8 but bit hypocriticle

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  122. I saw the sentence and half in which you praised him but some could miss it in the blink of an eye, if anyone wants help finding the praise bit its the 4th bulletpoint down after the essay written about Suarez cheating

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  123. so what about allens shirt pulling against swansea 4th time i,ve asked you now or is he not a lfc player you just keep posting your points of view ,because thats what they are.i,ve never said suarez is a victim he deserves a lot of what he gets,but he his victimised by you on a daily basis, never a good word about him unless ,to use your favourite saying,sniping about him in the same post

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  124. whats ro stand for rodgers orifice

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  125. I've already explained my stance on that, andI'm not wasting time repeating myself

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  126. why bring benitez into the arguement do se your site get extra money every time someone mentions his name benitez benitez benitez benitez benitez benitez benitez there you go go thats enought you can leave him alone till tomorrow now

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  127. Unlike the team, you never fail to disappoint Jaimie. Couldn't wait to get home to see you lay into Suarez again.....!!!

    Yes, it was stupid. Yes it was naive.
    But give it a fncking rest. It wasn't "shameless cheating", and it wasn't "deliberately trying to score with his hand". It was the act of a man totally pissed off with teammates incapable of delivering a final ball; teammates incapable of killing off a team who had been on the ropes.

    It was the kind of thing you do a hundred times in training out of frustration at yet another shit cross. He just stupidly did it in a match.

    Enjoy your week off Luis. If anyone deserves a rest, it's you.

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  128. Jason, it is not like you have anything positive to say about BR and you never have. Isn't BR victimised on this site by yourself on a daily basis?

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  129. haha like you had a choice..i never knew this blog was this interactive i would come here more often...keep up the good work..ooooh leave suarez alone *tongue out*

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  130. At least your team won at Reading though

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  131. no you did not explain one thing you just said it was different to diving so if iam to take it by what you say,diving is murder ,handball is manslaughter and shirt pulling is assualt,unless its suarez then its murder ps you direct me to a post were you have explained it and i will apologuise but i know you just brushed it under the carpet ,i wonder if you have even seen the inccedent to which i refered you to

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  132. yes he deserves a rest but us supporters will have to put up with watching paint dry next week ,because if hes not on the pitch we will be pretty boring to watch

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  133. Robben is pretty bad, too.

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  134. Just thought exactly the same thing.

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  135. Whatever you say, Jim. You're an enabler, just like most other fans.

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  136. Diving, shirt pulling, obstructing etc, its all cheating regardless how anyone looks at it, there all ways of gaining an unfair advantage over the opponent, the only difference is the person committing the offences as then its obviously looked upon differently for whatever reason..

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  137. lol no hes not victimised by me accutally i feel sorry for him he mite have been the right manager but imo its to early in his career for such a big job and like i,ve said before who can blame him for jumping at the chance i certainly don,t ,but hes the wrong man for now and the blame for that falls mostly at fsg feet

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  138. Finally some comments from you I can agree with :-)

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  139. lol m8 and i thought we were getting on

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  140. i hope your not a surez hero worshiper lol because that would make you a satanist,because he his the antichrist

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  141. Yes but it is your opinion that he is not right for the job...

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  142. and thats what this site is about opinions you have yours wich i respect i have mine if we all agreed there woud be no point in posting m8

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  143. Not a worshipper just an appreciator lol

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  144. no you defended him you need to see him for what he his forget his undersputible talent and fantastic entertainment value

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  145. In an ideal world he would have been appointed under a more experienced manager who could have taught him the tricks of the trade as they say, he is wet behind the ears and it shows a lot at times, they should have looked at creating another boot room like situation and got an experienced coach (van gaal possibly) and brought in Rodgers as his assistant with the assurance he would eventually take over the reigns, and then Carra or Stevie could have stepped into the shoes he vacated to learn under his guidance, i know its unlikely he would accept been assistant when already a manager but if he wanted to create a lasting legacy in the game it could be appealing (as it would be to some).

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  146. rafa was the special one!! as chanted !!
    more Chelsea lose ground, the more chance it is a 2 horse race, which makes 2 spaces in the top 4 up for grabs!!
    unlikely but we all dream!!
    when the owners get us cavani,walcot, and sturidge in jan were going for it!!!!
    ok il wake up now

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  147. Top 5 hand gols, number 1 is a English :) and from MU :)
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nS96YTxV59k

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  148. Ask jason carp he seems to have all the answers.

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  149. Suarez used his hands, you can not argue against what he did it was a deserved a yellow card. Those of you who say it was reflex thing that may be true I give you that. However, lets just remind you that this is not the first time Suarez has used his hands. Lets go on a trip down memory lane 2nd July 2010, Ghana vs Uruguay. Suarez uses his hands to stop the ball from going into the net. Its like saying thunder strikes twice on the same spot. Then Suarez had the cheek to say he would do the same thing again if he had the chance. That my friend is called cheat and you can not argue against that

    As a Liverpool fan the club is more important than a player. Suarez needs to know his actions affect his team mates and the image of the club. Suarez is one heck of a player for Liverpool I am not doubting his ability but tje decisions he makes which don't benefit him at all.

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  150. Handball was just instinctive. Even the commentators said so. It was still a yellow card, but that should be the end of it. You try to make something out of nothing really.

    Anyway losing Suarez for one game isn't a problem, I reckon play Enrique as striker!

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  151. I think Rodgers has brought on some of the issues on himself. Rodgers has brought in 3 players namely Allen, Borini and Assaisi for the first team for nearly £30million an average of about £10million a player.
    No when you consider he knew the club had a goal scoring problem, was it wise to spend half his budget on Allen who while not being a bad player only really ever gets cited for statistics like pass completion and so forth but not in terms of forward passes or assists given what we needed was goals.
    When Allen doesnt start in the Europa games we dont seem to miss him but we do miss Suarez because he has been our major source of goals and Shelvey seem to be coming on well and is always prepared to shoot at goal more than I can say for the likes of Allen and Henderson.
    Now the irony here is Shelvey has a goal return in him but I presume that Allen was brought in to compete with him and has no goal or any assist I can recollect after featuring in nearly 20 games and need I say that the way Downing went and everyone thought we needed to be patient and give him time and now 40 league games later he still has no goals or assists.
    Also what was the point of Sahin if we tried so hard to get him in the face of Arsenal interest only warm the bench.
    Dare I say if Rodgers had spent £15million Joe Allen transfer fee on a striker while still affording to get Borini and getting Sahin on the same loan deal, the club may have been better off given we would have 3 senior strikers and Sahin starting more games where Allen has featured extensively
    Allen to me was a luxury buy who the club could ill afford with only 2 recognised senior strikers in Suarez and the misfiring Borini who cost £10million but had no league goals at the time of his injury afte 7 Games.
    Borini could not cut it at Chelsea so his struggles for goals are not a surprise as would Sturridge should we sign him for the reputed £15million Chelsea are demanding.
    What grinds my gears is the club always manages to pick duds and fans seem to do a better job than our scouts who are paid to look for such gems.
    I remmeber JK highlighting the Porto's Jackson last summer befor his switch to Portugal for less than half what Liverpool is now willing to pay.
    Now Rodgers is keen on Sturridge and Chelsea is willing to sanction the move provided they get funds from the deal to buy Bayer Leverkusen forward Andre Schurle for £20million.
    Would it not serve Liverpool better to take advantage of the Hyppia link and get the better player from Germany instead.

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  152. I usually defend Suarez but besides the morality of cheating, what a cheap yellow to pick up when we have no backup forwards.

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  153. Suarez antics is costing the club. He is damaging our reputation. Buck Rodgers should put him in his place and give him a good bollocking.
    If he can't / will not change his ways for the team then we should cash in and move along. 50mil seems like a decent amount to me to get good replacements.
    I am sick of being labelled as a fan of LFC with divers, cheats. etc.
    This has to stop now.

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  154. Look at the players bought by the 3 managers after Rafa....Jole cole, Mereiles, Kocheski, Polsen by Hodgson (total 18 mil), Carroll, Suarez, Downing, Hendersen, Coates, Adam, Enrique (total 120 mil) by Dalglish and Allen, Borini, Asaidi (total 28 mil) by Roger.....you will be shock to see that after a massive investment of over RM155 mil only 2 players (Suarez and Allen) are Liverpool's regular 11 in this season until Enrique's resurgent lately. Except Gerrad, Reina, Agger, Skrtel, Johnson, Lucas, Sterling, Shelvey, Suso, Wisdom all are bought by Rafa!!! What a joke!!!!

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  155. You mustn't have been watching the game, because from memory now (I've only just woke up) I remember a great flick on the edge of the 18 yard box!

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  156. Exactly.
    He hand-balled. He got a yellow (deservedly). He gets a ban. End of.
    In no way did this incident "mar the game". The game was 'marred' by our inability to come out after a good first half and continue in the same vein.

    Jaimie has to sensationalise everything, otherwise he wouldn't get 151 hits to his site. The headline should have read - "Same old same old. Liverpool huff and puff against lower opposition." Add to that the postscript : Suarez picked up a yellow for handball. The dope...

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  157. Because he works hard, he wants to be there and has the desire to succeed. Maybe it's not enough sometimes but at least you know he'll give 100%

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  158. I was at the game yesterday , luis,s handball was purely instinctive, the speed of play leading up to it was very quick so to hear him getting the same old stick is getting a bit much now, gareth bale was diving all over the place against us the other night yet hardly he got a mention for it. How about appreciating the fact that we have one of the worlds best players at our club, king luis.

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  159. Well I know you've a high opinion of yourself and a low one of Suarez but I think Rodgers knows more about his squad and as such decided not to pick Assadi.
    You know fans will back Suarez so you get your crummy bias opinion of him. I think your going ott as per usual with anything Suarez related. Shameless handball, calm down fool.

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  160. Rodgers substitutions have been very bizarre to put it politely Henderson, Carragher ,no Suso and Assaidi is not even among the substitutes whilst Downing finds a place on the bench inspite of being very very poor. I wish he would sub Stevie G too sometimes if he is not doing well and change tactics or formation .The team seems to be complacent and in the last two games have given away a lot of balls away much too easily.

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  161. Would you label Scholes as a cheat too? Can't remember seeing those headlines much despite his appalling tackling and his blatant handball goal ( see link from earlier) opportunism? You can't seem to wait to have a go again

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  162. To make a statement "he is an instinctual cheat" as if that is fact is ridiculous. It is pure supposition on your part and simply a case of you having made your mind up and using every instance to try and back up your case. I would agree that the handball was instinctive and could have happened to any player. The fact that he goes down easily and has one deliberate handball that benefited his national team doesn't make him an instinctive cheat. You use every chance you can to have a go at Suarez, and what's even more irritating is you try and anticipate that people may defend him and then try and nullify their defence before you've even heard it. Let's hope we don't sign Gareth Barry. Actually I really mean that.

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  163. Yes, you're right. There's absolutely no evidence from the past to suggest that Suarez might be an instinctual cheat.

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  164. There is no concrete evidence in my opinion that he is an instinctual cheat anymore so than many other footballers. A childish little sarcastic reply doesn't do you justice. Whilst I don't agree with a lot of what you write, you are entitled to your opinion. The criticism I have here is that you appear to have transformed your opinion into indisputable fact even to the extent that no-one should try to argue with it. You appear to believe (and I may be wrong here, so I apologise if I am) that Suarez is a cheat and will never change so you've made your mind up and pick and choose evidence to suit your case. He handballs therefore it was deliberate cheating, he doesn't go down as easily as he once did but that's not to be recognised as a change for the better it's the least we can expect.

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  165. Sorry, but that is utter nonsense. Like so many others, you cannot hack the fact that I don't hold the majority view on Suarez, so you set about trying to make out that I'm stating my opinion as fact, which is patently not true. This is clearly an opinion-based site, and if you genuinely accepted my right to an opinion, you would simply argue against my view, instead of casting aspersions against it.

    I believe Suarez is a cheat. That is my opinion. I've made the case many times with persuasive evidence. You may not agree, and that's you're right, but you don't hear me arguing that you'e trying to state your opinion as fact, do you?

    That is a typical retort from the censor's armoury: if you disagree with a view, try and discredit it any way you can.

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  166. I'm sorry. But pot, kettle and black springs to mind here.

    To paraphrase: if you disagree with a view, try to dicredit it any way you can, blame them for the game's ills, and call them an enabler.

    I believe that there is little doubt that Suarez geets singled out as an easy target for a particular label. I've seen Stevie dive, but he's not as easy a target, you act as if Suarez is the worst in the league for diving, bad tackles, and cheating handballs. People are simply pointing out the fact- and it is a fact, that far from being balanced, your reporting of his behaviour is such that negative points outnumber positive ones by a HUGE margin. Either Suarez has very few positive traits, or you're ignoring positive acts in favour of negative ones.That's fine, dislike him if you like, wish ( and continue to argue) that he should be turfed out of the club, but don't make out as if just arguing against your anti Suarez view somehow mitigates tarring the commenter with names like 'apologist' , censor, or 'enabler'

    For the record, my view of Suarez is that he has often crossed the line of acceptable behaviour in the past, which, if continued, would add myself to the list of people who would wish him to be sold. However, he has definitely improved his moaning, his diving, and other aspects of his game. I think he was sailing close to the wind, but deserves recognition of improvements in his behaviours, thus allowing the fantastic ability he has to be the main topic of conversation. Certain people seem not to want that to be the case, and focus solely, or almost completely, on labels and put downs. Question is: Are you one of them?

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  167. I don't care what your view of Suarez is.
    I have already said you are entitled to your opinion.
    I do believe you state your opinion as fact - you have said Suarez is an instinctive cheat and presented that as fact. When I ask for evidence your retort is a childish jibe. I don't believe you have provided "persuasive evidence " that Suarez is an instinctive cheat - you have provided evidence that he has been guilty of cheating on some occasions.
    You then in turn cast aspersions on my opinion implying I am effectively in favour of censorship!
    I haven't stated my opinion on Suarez (so I'm not sure how you can say I'm stating it as fact), I'm just arguing with the way you present your opinion.
    Your second sentence above again makes (wrong and unfounded) assumptions about my views and motivation.
    For the record I do believe Suarez was prone to cheating behaviour, I do believe he was vilified by the press, other players and managers for this and I do believe he has paid the price for this. I also believe that he is improving and adapting to the game in the Premiership and whilst I think he will try to turn any situation to his advantage I don't believe there is enough evidence to write him off as a perennial cheat.
    Just my opinion, obviously.

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  168. Guess he'd tell me it's Joe Allen's fault and of course that of Brendan Rodgers.

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  169. Well said, its a pity Suarez will not have the opportunity to face Jamie after scoring his next goal as I'm sure he would have a similiar response to JK's constant criticism, like he did against David Moyes!! Luis is not perfect.... I admit but then who is?? Lately you can see he's not dived around as much so he is listening and taking on the criticism which again takes character!! I think some people have forgotton that in the current situation we would not have a hell in chance of signing someone like Luis, so one needs to put things into perpective. That's just my opinion and believe me I have been annoyed with Luis in the past.

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  170. Well done agent benitez fine job so far

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  171. Scholes got booked for that. Goal didn't stand

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  172. Deliberate handball is an infringement of the rules that results in a yellow card, just like a jersey pull.

    If definition of a cheat is someone who deliberately handles the ball then Crouch, Henry, Phil Neville, Messi, Henchoz etc are all cheats.
    Plus Suarez also inadvertently prevented Hendo an easy chance.

    Stupid action, probably instinctive

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  173. Can anyone tell me what happened to Suso? I thought the team played better with him in the side in the early stages of the season as he brought another dimension to our attack. The guy has been quality and brilliant so far. How can JH and SD start games ahead of Suso baffles me really? Maybe BR is not happy with something that he sees in Suso?

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  174. Not sure what you mean by "OK" for Suarez to handle the ball. He got a yellow card and now he's suspended. Deservedly so. Rodgers isn't going to tear down the player in public, that's not his style, no matter what he might say to the player behind the scenes. So what is it that would make you happy? Do you want us all to line up and all agree that Suarez is a "cheat" and simply not like him? I don't personally agree with your insistence on the use of the term and I don't personally dislike the player. Why does that bother you?

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  175. Thank you Lucas Leiva.
    We did not score 6 as we should have, but not in one second was loosing points an option. Brilliant, fantastic and I can't remember the third adjective...
    Thank you Lucas Leiva.

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