Liverpool manager Brendan Rodgers has dismissed suggestions that controversial striker Luis Suarez could ultimately be forced out of Anfield.
In his column for the Liverpool Echo today, Reds legend John Aldridge revealed his fears that Suarez could decide to walk away from English football. He said:
"I really do worry that further down the line, possibly next summer, he might say he’s had enough of English football.
"The abuse he gets from away fans and the treatment he receives from officials, it’s a real nightmare for him.
"Liverpool fans adore him but everyone else seems to hate him. As a player you can only put up with so much and I do fear he will be forced out of Anfield"
In his pre-Swansea Press Conference today, Rodgers was asked about Aldo's comments, and he refuted the suggestion that the Uruguayan could cut his losses and move elsewhere. He said:
"He [Suarez] loves playing English football. He loves the passion and excitement of the game.
"He's mentally very strong, as you can see from all the stick he gets, but it's a driver for him, and it really motivates him.
"He loves being at Liverpool; he loves the club, and he loves the supporters, and I can't see that happening"
Jaimie Kanwar
In his column for the Liverpool Echo today, Reds legend John Aldridge revealed his fears that Suarez could decide to walk away from English football. He said:
"I really do worry that further down the line, possibly next summer, he might say he’s had enough of English football.
"The abuse he gets from away fans and the treatment he receives from officials, it’s a real nightmare for him.
"Liverpool fans adore him but everyone else seems to hate him. As a player you can only put up with so much and I do fear he will be forced out of Anfield"
In his pre-Swansea Press Conference today, Rodgers was asked about Aldo's comments, and he refuted the suggestion that the Uruguayan could cut his losses and move elsewhere. He said:
"He [Suarez] loves playing English football. He loves the passion and excitement of the game.
"He's mentally very strong, as you can see from all the stick he gets, but it's a driver for him, and it really motivates him.
"He loves being at Liverpool; he loves the club, and he loves the supporters, and I can't see that happening"
Jaimie Kanwar
Surez loves to win, you can see it in his frustrations. liverpool need to meet his ambitions or face loosing him.
ReplyDeleteEnglish football and people with the principles and foundations of Liverpool Football Club have had enough of you for a long time now.
ReplyDeleteMeet his ambitions? Are you having a laugh? What about Suarez meeting LFC standards of decency...?
ReplyDeleteSo..you think you are the representative of them all ? ...
ReplyDeleteI just hope so.
ReplyDeleteCome on man give him a break. Are you gonna say the same stuff on every article ???
ReplyDeleteI think you couldn’t be more wrong
ReplyDeletePeople can say whatever they like as much as they want. Other fans say positive stuff about Suarez all the time; you don't hear me or anyone else saying 'stop saying positive things about him' do you?
ReplyDeleteActually you're right here. It's just that I feel really troubled by how some fans can change their principles to cheating and disrespectful individuals just because such player has joined Liverpool.
ReplyDeleteBut I guess reading the same from me on every article is tiring. Acknowledged.
If Suarez wants way fans to stop booing him and for officials to treat him fairly then he needs to stop all his on pitch antics such as diving etc...
ReplyDeleteThe racial case did not help either.
Suarez is a hypocrite at times and so is BR. We want protection from referees and a fair game but yet we do not condemn one of our players for his simulation antics.
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English Football needs more players like Suarez, and a few less like Rio Ferdinand, Phil Neville and the likes. Despite not being given a decision for him, despite having a perfectly good goal disallowed, despite being assaulted by missiles thrown from the crowd, did he even once look like he might verbally attack the referee or remonstrate aggressively with the officials the way so many players do?
ReplyDeleteNo. Just puts that grin back on his face that shows how much he is loving the game, and gets on with it. And boy does he get on with it.
He's one of the most skilful players in the league. Shame on anyone that wishes we had less of those.
Then again most managers wouldn't, apart from David Moyes who actually stated he would talk to Neville about his diving. Kudos to him.
ReplyDeleteTornike sweetheart just speak for yourself,who told you that in any way you represent point of view of English people with principles?
ReplyDeletewhat are you on about. some of the things you say are proper out there. won't say more as don't want you to throw toys out of pram!
ReplyDeleteAt first I was prepared to overlook Suarez' petulance and lack of sportsmanship. I thought that as he matured he would learn his lessons, but now I am getting the feeling controversy will dog him whereever he goes because he is so damn petulant and self-centered. He will only drag LFC's name in the mud.
ReplyDeleteI want to be a proud LFC supporter. Winning really loses its satisfaction when I see our star player so blatantly and consistently cheating and making spiteful tackles.
If I were manager I would ship him out at the next available opportunity and bring in a player who isnt a dick
What could rodgers said yes hes going to leave next summer? Of course not but i think as well that maybe suarez will leave if the whole country carry on abusing with him all the time and i cant see why because he hasnt done anything to other teams and their fans ok mancs can abuse with him as you wont stop them but other fans they aint right to do it in every single stadium they slate him thats pathetic and he could be tired of that already so no surprises for me if he leaves sooner or later no one can stand that forever
ReplyDeleteIt's not tiring - you don't go around telling other posters to stop posting the same positive stuff about Suarez, do you?
ReplyDeleteI totally agree with your points. If other fans don't like it, tough luck IMO.
Harsh Jamie, the guy is ultra competitive he hates to lose and yes he occasionally crosses the line but when u play at 100% it is a mistake that can happen. let's be honest here if more of the players lfc have had over the years showed the passion he has we would not be behind manure in titles. We all know u dislike him but put it this way where would we be without him currently? He is a top player he has faults i for one will take the rough with the smooth.
ReplyDeleteYes, calling for Suarez to stop diving is really 'out there'...
ReplyDeleteYou are without doubt a knobhead first class its pricks like you and moyes who stop Suarez from getting any decisions, antbody can now kick him and face no penalty because the likes of you perpatuate this crap that everything he does is wrong GET A LIFE YOU SAD PRICK
ReplyDeleteIt is difficult for a certain "class" of players to thrive in the premiership unless they are playing for Man U. I think Man City (and to some extent Chelsea) have managed to overcome the stigma by assembling expensive squads. Sides like LFC who depend on a few players for results will always be easily thwarted, as the players will easily be singled out by hostile officiation and propaganda.
ReplyDeleteI wasn't aware that Liverpool FC have a separate 'Standards Of Decency' remit to other clubs. I presume you're talking about when 'bad Luis knocked plucky Africa out of the World Cup'? And the 'simulation' antics?
ReplyDelete'Honest' Phil Neville wouldn't stand a chance under Liverpool's 'Standards Of Decency' criteria, it seems. Handling the ball off the line in the last minute of a game, and getting booked for obvious diving? Where have I seen THAT before?
Basically, you're saying that it's okay for Suarez to cheat, hack etc because he's a good player.
ReplyDeleteLots of players 'play at 100%'; the LFC legends of yesteryear gave their best, but they didn't constantly cheat and bring shame on the club.
If they can play without diving/bringing the game into disrepute, why can't Suarez?
The standards of decency Jamie is in the hands of the officials. The standards of referees is in disarray. If something is not done, The PL will lose it's credibility.
ReplyDeleteWe need a solution and the officials should be audited. Something stinks. Fishy? But alas we can't go to the FA(rce). They stink of fish just as bad.
Spot on.
ReplyDelete"What about Suarez meeting LFC standards of decency?"
ReplyDeleteYou know, an all encompassing condemnation with no real foundation (just opinion) smakcs of extreme arrogance. Bit like if I said "How about you meeting some journalistic standards of decency?"
Ghana, not Africa...
ReplyDeleteSMH
Everyone hates suarez because of his antics. But if he played for their teams he would be adored and they would be defended him.He is liverpool through and through so lay off him and let him play.
ReplyDeleteWith respect, Rubyrm, that's just passing the buck, isn't it? If Rodgers, Dalglish et al weren't such enablers, perhaps Suarez wouldn't feel like he could dive all the time.
ReplyDeleteThe club has to take responsibility, and that means education and disciplining players when they persistently break the rules. Instead, we get players like Suarez constantly lauded and defended by anyone connected with LFC.
Where is Suarez's deterrent? Rodgers et al have created a situation where he can do whatever he likes without any fear of recrimination.
This is damaging, and LFC will ultimately end up paying the price. In fact, the club is already paying the price with harsh refereeing standards seemingly applied to the club, and this is arguably a direct result of the total lack of humility displayed by the club over its handling of Suarez.
Yes, why would English people - or people of any nationality - want to be accused of having something as horrible as principles. The horror!
ReplyDeleteNo it is not right to cheat to win. But manure can do it for years?
ReplyDeleteJust looking at decisions at Chelsea vs Manure is sickening.
Agree. The only reason other players such as Rooney and Young don't get the same bad press for diving is because they are English, as such the media are bias towards them.
ReplyDeleteIf Suarez was English and played for England then people would be making the same excuses that he is just being "competitive".
So because other teams cheat, it's okay for Liverpool to do it too? What kind of reasoning is that? Don't you want LFC to be on a higher level than that? Where does it end?
ReplyDeleteAnd so the witch hunt continues, pathetic that's it's from an LFC website.
ReplyDeleteIf any one has actually watched any games of football in South America they will realise that play acting is very much part of the game, in fact it is just as prevalent in some leagues in Europe.
So Suarez is flawed, aren't most geniuses?
He is learning all the time despite being under so much pressure from every single direction, every Liverpool fan should be giving him as much support as possible. I'm sure if I logged onto a Spurs website there wouldn't be this constant witch hunt of Gareth Bale, nor on a United website would I see such determined agendas against their own players.
We get the point JK, I'm sure Suarez get's the point, now drop it.
I am not saying he isn't a cheat. I'm just saying he is not a bigger cheat than others. And he is getting "punished" like he is the only one that cheats. And people go after him even when he does nothing wrong, and when he does something wrong it is like he murdered someone... Just think Liverpool fans shouldn't be among those people. We should say yes he cheats, but I think some of you are going too far with it- if he was a manu player it would be too much, in my opinion...
ReplyDeletePS: Handball was heroic- he knows he will be sent off and that if they are in semi finals he won't play, but he does it for his country. it is like making a foul in the box because you know that he will score if you don't-you know the consequences and you are ready for them.
So let's support our player, right?
ReplyDeleteTell me something: where in my article have I slated Suarez? I have just passed on comments from Aldo and BR. It's the pro-Suarez fanatics like yourself that need to get a grip. You're seeing stuff that isn't there.
ReplyDeleteI think the only reason Suarez is singled out so much is because of how laughable his dives are, with his arm in the air and the back arching. I would guess he is no worse than a large proportion of players, he just does it in a manner that attracts attention.
ReplyDeleteShould he stop playacting? Yes. But should he be singled out in the manner he is? No, not in my opinion.
If the problem is to be dealt with it needs to be done in a measured, thoughtful and organised fashion; not by castigating certain individuals, while ignoring other cases. That sort of carry on is just productive for a lazy media that wants to cash in off the back of their latest witch hunt.
I think you jumped down 'philipdean' neck a bit quick there tbh. He obviously meant that he wished our other players had the same winning mentality as Suarez and he is right. He reminds me of Roy Keane in that sense. You can see that he absolutely hates losing and was born with a winning mentality. You also had nastiness in Keanes game but would I have him in my team, hell yes because he sets a winning standard that the others should follow. I saw an article the other week from you criticising Suarez for not being clinical enough and we all know this is an issue but look at the number of goals he has scored already this season and the amount of chances he creates by himself. It is pretty easy to criticise him for not being clinical enough but how about this for a crazy idea, how about praising the guy for how brilliant he is at what he does. If he started to put more chances away, the likes of V Persie and Co would be in his shadow and that is saying something. Jamie, the world is not a perfect place and I am sure you have some flaws yourself so lets try to be balanced in our views and give credit where it is deserved.
ReplyDeleteYou guys on here are such hypocrites ....
ReplyDeleteThere are a lot of players in the PL that do the same as Suarez (going down easily, sometimes doing something stupid like a bad tackle), but in contrast to Luis the others don't even get mentioned in the press at all !!
You guys are just weaklings who can't stand up to the fight !!!!
Suarez is exactly the person we need to get back this fighting spirit and driving force we once had in the 70s and 80s and ever since have lost ....
That's the reason why we haven't won the title since 89/90 !!!!
To be honest Jamie, long are the days where players and managers strive'd to play by a certain set of "fair play and sportsmanship" rules.
ReplyDeleteThese days if one of our players dives and we win the game the gaffer would try to pass a blind eye on it or not focus on it. The hypocrisy is when this injustice happens to us and we feel a sense of blind justice and feel we have been wronged.
If all clubs applied the golden rule of football (sportsmanship and fair play) then this would not have been an issue. Every club and player would condemn this.
In our day, as long as the advantage comes to the club we support most people (excluding myself) would turn a blind eye on it.
Sad but true. I do feel that the referees do try and referee the game fairly but when players like Suarez do what they do then it becomes difficult.
I wish they gave Rooney and Young the same level of emphasis they do to Suarez when he dives.
Anyway my 2 minutes of enlightenment is up.
I repeat Jamie. "No it is not right to cheat"
ReplyDeleteThe only higher level is
Like I said. It is not right to cheat to win.
Yes We want Liverpool at a higher level.
It will only end if there is transparency and accountability. I want officials to be open and be accountable for their accounts an finances. It stinks. The FA should also be investigated.
I ABSOLUTELY LOVE LUIS, WHAT A PLAYER, GOD KNOWS WHERE WE WOULD BE WITHOUT HIM. EVEN WHEN THE TEAM PLAYS BADLY, WHICH IT OFTEN DOES HE NEVER GOES MISSING. i THINK HE IS THERE WITH THE BEST STRIKERS THIS OUR CLUB HAS EVER HAD. YNWA LUIS SUAREZ
ReplyDeleteThis just shows your gross bias. Other players DO get slated in the press for diving, you just don't see it with your pro-LFC conspiracy-blinkers on.
ReplyDeleteNo, the reason we talk about Suarez in this instance is because this exact article is about Suarez. We all know other do similar things to him.
ReplyDeletewhat's the reason? they weren't diving as consistenlty and making handball shouts every 3 minutes?
ReplyDeleteIndeed, he is a very good player.
ReplyDeleteI agree. LFC have been victimized for years. And it has nothing to do with Suarez . Until recently of course. Everyone needs a scapegoat. Suarez is the perfect candidate.
ReplyDeleteJamie do you not see that the constant slating of Suarez just creates more of a siege mentality. I know this site won't have that much of an impact as it doesn't reach an audience in the way tv/radio and national press does, but you can see from the chants on the terraces and the exaggerated cheers when Suarez gets a decision how the treatment he gets from the media, officials and opposing fans is having an effect.
ReplyDeleteAs Richard Ireland points out, no credit is given as to how he dealt with coins being thrown at him and having a winning goal wrongly disallowed. He has made mistakes but the media framing is excessive.
furguson has not been booed for all red cards awarded , just after moyes talks about diving his captain does the same, phil neville did hold the ball in a game of everton against liverpool , and many others....they are not beeing booed..........so what has suarez done that has not been done?............
ReplyDeleteLook I love Luis for his brilliant play, but somehow he irritates me. He screams foulplay so often when he loses or miscontrols a ball, yet reacts increduously whenever he is penalized for one of his dirty tackles.
ReplyDeleteSometimes pride is worth more than winning. Let's be honest. The players deserve the credit for their hard work and they make the millions. In effect, whether Liverpool wins or loses, our lives don't really change. If I am going to support players or a team, I'm going to get behind the ones which play with decency.
Number of free kicks and penalties he got by cheating.
ReplyDeleteNumber of free kicks and penalties he didn't get and was supposed to.
Number of yellow cards he got for cheating.
Number of yellow cards other players got for tackles on him and didn't deserve it.
Number of yellow cards other players didn't get for tackles on him and deserved it.
Make an assumption on these numbers{all of them, please} and than compare it to numbers of Drogba, Bale, Young...
It was a generalisation - people were more offended by the fact that Ghana were the last African team in the WC at that stage than if it had been, say, France. Suarez essentially knocked the continent out. And people went f***ing stupidly mad. He seems to bring the 'idiotic' out in the general public.
ReplyDeleteI am a 60 year old Liverpool supporter, born & bred in Los Angeles California and I can tell you all right now that Luiz Suarez is OUR best player.
ReplyDeleteI hear talk of "our great players of old" but I tell you that in the last 30. Years or so football has moved on, it's not like it used to be.
Where would Liverpool be without Suarez ? ?
No disrespect to English or British players but the foreign players make the EPL what it is today, atleast in America it is the "most exciting league in the world" but take out the foreigners & we'll be right back to the drab of the 70's & 80's.
Suarez epitomises the Liverpool "never say die spirit" he will do whatever he can to make us win.
We all know that all faith has been lost in match officials and over here there is a natural consensus that these british officials are corrupt because there's just no way all these decisions can go pear shaped!
It's absolutely unbelievable!
Out here, Suarez is the hero of Liverpool f.c.
ReplyDeleteWrong Dave. My live changes at work. If we lose. I will be ridiculed and laughed at from working colleagues. So it goddammed matters o ME
He IS a cheat, but let's try to see that he isn't the cancer of English football. He is a racist also, but than again he got the biggest punishment...
ReplyDeleteThe point is, we are talking about Suarez specifically not other players. Everyone knows other players have done this.
ReplyDeleteAmen
ReplyDeleteThese leg ends are beginning to get me down.
ReplyDeletethats sad. I know football means a lot to people. And it means a lot to me for some strange reason, but to actually admit that one's life is so dependant on it is really concerning
ReplyDeleteGrahamred
ReplyDeleteYou are absolutely spot on.
He didn't dive against Everton. But I'd say everyone assumed he did. There's just absolutely no unbiased opinions on Luis Suarez. And sadly, the majority of you seem to hate him. Which makes the rest of us defend him more.
ReplyDeleteJust point to the facts, and we'll just point to the facts. Let's see where that gets us.
Fair enough. I have to agree that the EPL without foreign players in nothing.
ReplyDeleteHowever Suarez "never say die spirit" must be flawed because he take is to a whole other level. Every time somebody touches him he screams like he has been shot, he dives and goes to ground easily. Granted a lot of player do this but to do anything to win..including cheating is not right.
He is a good player but has one of the worst attitudes I have seen in a footballer. He goes beyond fighting spirit, it's damn right brazen.
IMO anyway.
But luis can get stamped on kicked, elbowed on the head with imunity ?
ReplyDeleteSuarez is LFC at the moment.
ReplyDeleteHack is a new one! Is that relating to the foul on Distin? The one where he looked like he wrongly anticipated which way Distin would go with the ball, stuck his foot out and then slipped? Oh, and then immediately went to Distin to make sure he was ok.
ReplyDeleteWas a horrible place to catch Distin, but I don't think it was intentional.
If not that one then fair enough, but that is the "band-wagon" foul from what I can make out. I think Moyes said he should have been sent off for that foul!!
But why are WE always talking about it? And WE never see when he is trying to play without cheating but doesn't get normal officiating. Why is OUR the worst to US, and he in fact isn't?
ReplyDelete...No his not.
ReplyDeleteIf he deserves it.
ReplyDeleteThis is not slating, just stating an observation. We all know the players you mentioned are of the same unsportsman like pedigree.
ReplyDeleteBecause cheating takes the joy, fun, credibility and competitiveness out of the sport. That's why we talk about it. Specifically Suarez because, well, he plays for our club.
ReplyDeleteFeel for you mate.
ReplyDeleteWhen I was a kid if Liverpool lost I would get so upset. I remember crying when we lost to Marseille in the 2004 Uefa Cup Semi Final etc... it ruined my week.
ReplyDeleteNow, it does not bother me. I just shout at the TV, think about it, then move on.
Something like football should not impact our lives that much IMO.
There is FAR more important things in this life to worry about, football is the least of my concerns.
However when Liverpool win I do feel a little happier haha!
Yeah but what did he say to Neville? "Unlucky Phil".
ReplyDeleteSaying he will talk to him means nothing. If Moyes really wants to get behind his conviction that diving will turn fans away from the game, then he should publicly reprimand Neville.
From all the hoohah Moyes made about diving I'll be expecting to see Neville benched and fined.
I maybe wrong. Maybe Neville is over Moyes knee right now getting six of the best (now there's a worrying image).
Your comments to other posters to me are an extension of your article, if you read your comments as I do you will see that you do indeed slate Suarez again and again.
ReplyDeleteAnd many others, and they are all WORSE than Luis.. And some of the observations look like slating.. Of our player.
ReplyDeleteA good read here, long but worth reading. http://diminbeirut.typepad.com/ maybe the Fa need investing.
ReplyDeleteAgree 100%, especially about the media. He is their pantomime villain.
ReplyDeleteI wonder how many players there are in our lower leagues who dive just as often but don't get attributed to being (unsubtly-indirectly) as the cancer of modern football?
I'd love to see him come out for the warm-up in the next match wearing a Punch and Judy hat :)
Suarez isn't paid for his pride, he's paid to win football games.
ReplyDeleteNot in your article but in your comments
ReplyDeleteI will take it's your opinion. "dive all the time"?
ReplyDeleteI wonder where the 3 goals came from? Suarez dived and got it I guess. Jamie. have you been a victim of circumstances?
Yes I agree we are getting bad decisions based on his antics.
Why would a player stand down and be belittled ?
I say go go go Suarez. We are screwed so make the most of it
This is the way i see it, FSG have IMO been very very patient with Suarez, in fact they awarded him a new contract even after he had helped tarnish the profile of the Club last season, to the point where our sponsors were complaining...etc.
ReplyDeleteThat to me is what i call giving the guy a chance to show the world that he can knuckle down and get on with the business of playing great football which we all know he is capable of....
In fact even after his lengthy ban last season which saw us lose this megastar for eight weeks someone who is so intrinsic to our recent success... and to which we would be lost without...he goes and kicks Scott Parker in the stomach against West Ham (intentionally IMO..) and flips the bird to the fulham fan's...
Forgive me for thinking that he learnt sweet feck all during his ban which lets face it was letting the club down on many levels...and still he was awarded with a new contract...
So, here we are a few months into the new season and he is hell bent on continuing his shennanigans, courting controversy etc, some people keep arguing how he is now the victim of english football etc, but really, we must be honest to ourselves about this Suarez is being backed by Brendan and seems to once again find himself in a position where he can do as he pleases without anyone at the Club taking a stand....
For me its all self inflicted, he actively looks for trouble, courts controversy which then brings LFC into the spotlight for all the wrong reasons...
Im almost lost for words, as a Liverpool supporter i feel not only let down by the player himself...but by TWO successive managers and the owners who unfortunately have given this guy a chance to pay the club back for its loyalty to him.
Personally i would have off loaded in the summer, taken the shit storm backlash from the fans on the chin and replaced him with an out and out striker with a decent rep who could bang them in without bringing a trunk load of issue's to the club.
Can't blame FSG for weak leadership though because they have been very fair/generous/loyal even in this regard...one things for sure it is a problem, a big problem which could rare up again during another self inflicted incident, hasd to be a matter of damage limitation now surely, we must protect the club's profile and someone needs to put a hefty rocket up the guy's arse and warn him that anymore of his "antics" WILL be punishable, but now that certainly doesn't look like happening..,..
Suarez is the victim and it fits LFC like a glove....just wish to God that we could get this back to where it belongs,players respecting the club and playing CONVINCINGLY each week.... we are becoming more and more like Bitters as each lacklustre and unsuccessful season passes, our position in the prem table speaks for itself, a laughing stock with a fanbase determined to convince itself that the whole world and his dog are against us...
They are not, we are against ourselves....
way fans will always boo good players. They will cheer on bad performing players pal. I hope you watching football and not MTV.
ReplyDeleteet tral
Wrong pal. nothing to do with being English. It's all bout Liverpool
ReplyDeleteHe also hacked down Mirallas in the sam3 game; same kind of 'tackle', and it firced him off injured. Once in a game you can explain; twice, it looks deliberate.
ReplyDeletethat fair enough jamie, surez could come out with a statement tomorrow and admit to his cheating and say sorry, from that day, he would come up to the LFC standards, however liverpool will still be poor!
ReplyDeleteno wonder people cheat and get away with it, a linsman is payed alot of money to do one specific job and they fail to do it, so how the hell are they going to spot diving!!
ReplyDeletei would rather have to put up with surez diving than him leaving. If he leaves, the replacement will be light years behind him, fact!!!
ReplyDeleteYes. Corruption. The FA(rce) is not even bothered because corruption is within. the FA.
ReplyDeleteThe population in Nazi Germany had the same view as you, which probably explains why Adolf Hitler had such widespread support amongst the public despite his heinous crimes.
ReplyDeleteThose German citizens with a conscience who dared to criticise AH were shouted down by the brainwashed majority, and often dragged away and silenced by the Gestapo.
And before anyone twists my words, I'm not making a literal comparison here; the underlying principle is, however, the same.
It's groupthink once again: fans are brainwashed into thinking that LS is a victim; that there's a conspiracy against LFC and all that other nonsense, so a siege mentality develops, and all objectivity and logic goes out the window. All that's left is mob mentality and a ridiculous (and false) group-led sense of injustice.
German citizens' groupthink suppor of the Nazi Party wasis a national and historicak embarrassment, and the Suarez deification is similarly embarrassing.
Everyone can see this except Liverpool fans.
Its just a long winded version of what fans have been writing on forum for years. Good read? Pffft. Its the same old same old theory (with new bits) but as per usual, with nothing conclusive to back it up, in relation to evidence.
ReplyDeleteIgnore them, post what you like, just like they are allowed to post their usual rose-tinted comments as long as you don't preach to them to stop
ReplyDeleteTen-a-penny, the coin throwing at players. Doesn't make it right but many a player have suffered that and simply got on with the game. I don't see rose-tinted cheesy articles, songs & poems being written about their so-called brave behaviour for not reacting to being subjected to coins. The same goes with not reacting much to the offside goal. Nothing new. Will take a lot more than that to get some people off his back.
ReplyDeleteTen-a-penny, the coin throwing at players. Doesn't make it right but many a player have suffered that and simply got on with the game. I don't see rose-tinted cheesy articles, songs & poems being written about their so-called brave behaviour for not reacting to being subjected to coins. The same goes with not reacting much to the offside goal. Nothing new. Will take a lot more than that to get some people off his back.
ReplyDeletewin football games....at all costs though?
ReplyDeleteComparing Hitler to Suarez, that's really low.
ReplyDeleteHe may have flaws (who doesn't?) but it's the eclectic and ferocious mix that he possesses that sets him apart and that his fans adore.We love his aggression, skill, unpredictability, irrepressible will to win etc etc. Qualities that few in the world possess.
ReplyDeleteHe was abused on Sunday and had coins thrown at him (he tucked them in his boot) but his passionate performance was fantastic. In a hostile environment he focused on the game and his own fans, he terrorised Everton. He had a winning goal disallowed wrongly, Suarez knew it but to his credit in a situation where many would have been in the officials face, he just smiled.
His witty goal celebration will not be forgotten and has endeared him even more to the fans.
Players were getting kicked all the time in particular by Fellaini. Suarez himself was kicked. Yet the focus goes on whether Suarez should have received a red and not on the positives he displayed. He is obviously the pantomime villain of the Premier League. But where some players might crumble and tire from the constant battering, he simply stands firm, performs well, and scores goals. Opposition fans don’t like him? So be it. The people that matter appreciate and adore him for not only his footballing talent, but his unique and unbeatable desire and determination to win every game he participates in.
He is often criticised for exhibiting such anger in the face of decisions not going his way, of fouls not being given and such like, but Suarez has begun to simply laugh at such mistakes. Having been kicked from pillar to post for 90 minutes only to receive nothing, most players would be spitting blood, enraged and inconsolable. It is remarkable that his temperament is criticised under such ridiculous treatment from opposition players and referee’s, but it is.
Some people aren't happy unless they have a talking point and someone to pick on.
Yeah but it's not often that someone has the injustice of a winning goal wrongly disallowed in such a passionate game. Players are often surrounding the officials or in their faces. Suarez just smiled.
ReplyDeleteThe fact is that those who don't like him will never like him as they have made up their mind but his fans will only respond to those on his back by supporting him more passionately. That's been proven.
Clearly, you didn't read my post properly. That, or you don't understand what 'literal' means.
ReplyDeleteIf Suarez is racist, then nearly everybody living on this planet can be seen as racist ....
ReplyDeleteWhy mentioning the lower leagues ....
ReplyDeleteThere are enough other players who dive or go down rather easily quite often in the PL !!
Hardly something unique and brave or admirable, to not react much to a offside goal in such circumstances. Only because its Suarez, that you seem to be making a considerable deal over it (emphasis on 'seem', admittedly), in order to put him in a good spotlight in the midst of the bad spotlight. I would have no issue with that, if it weren't so menial and common.The so-called anti-Suarez brigade gets accused of scraping the barrel many a time, and I think in this case this is also scraping the barrel from the pro-Suarez brigade. Just my view on it.
ReplyDeleteYeah, they do get slated a bit, ONCE !!!!!!!!!!!!!
ReplyDeleteSuarez in contrast gets slated by every paper over DAYS !!!!!!
I have no rose-tinted glasses on, I am just stating the facts !!!!
There is the problem ....
ReplyDeleteYou mention that other players do the same as Suarez, but why on earth don't do they get the same treatment as him ....
Tell me ...
It's the fucking press talking about everything Suarez does and try do put a negative spin on it by any chance, if needed ...
ReplyDeleteYou all think you know Luis Suarez ....
ReplyDeleteLet's remeber the first four months when he came here, he was fabulous and played in the same way as he does now and nothing, absolutely nothing bad was written about him up until this day .....
Since then, the press started to write anything negative they possibly could about him.
Nothing more to say ...
Yes, Suarez is a victim. He's done absolutely nothing to deserve the negative press. He's a model footballer, and it's a disgrace that the press make up stories about his diving, biting, cheating, swearing at fans, and spats with Man United players. How can they get away with making this stuff up?!
ReplyDeleteNo Jaimie i did not say it's ok for Suarez to cheat so please do not attempt to put words in my mouth as i have that ability myself. The Legends of yesteryear did indeed cheat Jaimie, Souness kicked as many players as footballs as did Nicol KD backed into and barged more defenders with his arse, the point being is that today every little detail is micro analysed to the extreme. Look at Roy Keane, As dirty as they came, technically brilliant and fought like a pitbull for the cause. This holier than thou pedestal you wish to place LFC on is simply a non existent fantasy and imo nothing more than a vehicle for you to attack a player you do not like. Put it this way i imo welcome Suarez's spirit, fight and sheer brass neck to LFC. Unless we compete on the same playing field as the others using the same tactics which are a part of the game we will be left behind or does taking one for the team not apply anymore.
ReplyDeleteWhat do you mean by 'treatment'? Why do you think the likes of Drogba and Ronaldo have enduring reputations as divers and con-merchants? Where does this come from? The press; the same press that now hounds Suarez for exactly the same thing. Ronaldo and Drogba deserved it; Suarez deserves it.
ReplyDeleteKicking/barging players is more in the realm of fouling than cheating. It is not dishonest in the same way diving/feigning injury is. Additionally, that type of niggling fouling does not bring embarrassment and shame on a football club, but overt cheating like diving, does.
ReplyDeleteWhen it comes to cleaning up football, we have to prioritise, and diving/faking injury to gain an advantage is far more damaging to the reputation of the game.
Nowhere near to the same extent Jaimie to say otherwise is complete nonsense.
ReplyDeleteHere we go again, Give it up Jaimie this record is well an truly broken. Thank God for Suarez where would we be without him.
ReplyDeleteSorry Jaimie but ur wrong, kicking and barging players are fouls. Fouls are a breach of the law hence the whistle sounds and that is cheating as a rule has been broken. Football was once described as a man's game but in reality it is now practically a non contact sport and the antics which ensue are a part of the game, it maybe distasteful but it is the game. Considering the governing bodies of the game the world over are corrupt u can either accept the game as it is or hold false hope for those bodies to change it. blame the game not the player.
ReplyDeleteActually according to dictionary definition, the same one you told me earlier, it is all cheating. Either it all is or none of it is
ReplyDeleteIgnorant statement, I',m from South Africa and did not care when Ghana went out. When Suarez did what he did, all i thought was, 'thats what i'd do'
ReplyDeleteMaybe the underlying principle is the same but the one is real-life and the one is just a game. Why are professional footballers expected to be role models. We pay to watch them play. Whats wrong with a bit of mob mentality.
ReplyDeleteHave you never wanted the bad guy to win in movie?
Ignorant comment. I'm from Ireland and I've got news for you - the rest of the world has had an ugly patronising 'poor little africa' attitude ever since.
ReplyDeleteNo, you're just comparing ME to the Nazi party. Which is totally fine apparently.
ReplyDeletePut yourself in my shoes here J-Rex - how seriously would you take MY opinion if I'd said that?
No, you're just comparing ME to the Nazi party. Which is totally fine apparently.
ReplyDeletePut yourself in my shoes here J-Rex - how seriously would you take MY opinion if I'd said that?
I'm not comparing you to the Nazi party (!) - I'm simply highlighting (by comparison) the principle of groupthink by using ; how groups of people develop an unwavering, irrational with belief in one particular idea/concept/person, irrespective of how negative/damaging it is.
ReplyDeleteYes, I wanted Hannibal Lecter to feast on Dr. Chilton at the end of 'Silence of the Lambs', but as you say, this is real life.
ReplyDeleteLike when we accepted bribes to help Man U avoid relegation, learn the history of the Club b4 you spout this drivel.
ReplyDeleteThere is still no evidence to back up your claim that he helped tarnish the profile of the club. Who exactly did he help?
ReplyDeleteGood post, but I could have saved you the trouble of typing it. After all, I am omniscient..... !! ;)
ReplyDeleteI'm not too blinkered to admit that Suarez has a naughty side to his game but if he wasn't in the team this season, we'd be bottom of the league and staring relegation in the face. All these other managers who constantly berate him had better look in before they look out. Ferguson saying that we should sell him, what a joke, he's managed some of the biggest scumbags ever to pull on football boots. Moyes' comments about diving then his own captain does it and don't get me started about Fellaini's antics.
ReplyDeleteEvery team has at least one player who tries to bend the rules, it's the same everywhere but as one of the commentators said on Sunday "They don't boo bad players".
The guy is an awesome player, let's just be thankful we have someone with his talents playing in our club.
Everything I ever wanted to say on the subject, only much more eloquent than I could ever be.
ReplyDeleteGood work, pal.
I honestly can't believe the treatment Suarez is getting. Its absolutely absurd. What are they feeding the people in England, why can't people understand, that how Suarez is being dealt with, is NOT professional. The FA are corrupt to the very core. Just shocking. I guess it's because if your not a Liverpool fan, there is no understanding, and just a reason to jump on the hater bandwagon like Everton, Man United, and Stoke have done so far this season. Its a dog eating dog world out there in the Premier League, and Liverpool are being victimized. I don't see Suarez getting a penalty all year the way this is going. If I was Henry I would start law suite and get some private investigators involved. There's a premeditated agenda out there to how referees are dealing with Suarez and other players are let off the hook. Its fine if Suarez is given a yellow card for diving, I don't like to see it either, but disallowing legitimate goals and fair penalties is just WRONG. Football wasn't what it used to be since I was a kid, maybe its because I was naive, but what has happened over the last few weeks it is alarming and needs to be checked out.
ReplyDeleteWell you've properly hurt my feelings J-Bone. I'll be needing flowers.
ReplyDeleteSo if this treatment of Suarez carries on for the rest of the season, clear penalties are denied, goals disallowed, him getting sent of for weak challenges. Would you still deny that he is being victimized? How is it that you focus on Suarez's behavior so much? Does that mean there was nothing wrong with the behaviour of Everton players hounding the linesman for offside. Oh I forgot, Everyone can't see this except for Liverpool fans. We all know his antics, he waves the imaginary card time to time, he makes a meal out of contact (but lets forget about the ones that actually take him out), but how many players in the PL do that as well? The reason i'm saying Suarez is being victimized because the facts are there for all to see, he is a top class player with an enormous amount of skill, players like this will always be picked on because quite frankly, who cares if someone like Jamie Mackie dives, hes a nobody and isn't worth front page news. Media are having a field day when it comes to Suarez. And the referees are eating it all for supper.
ReplyDeletesuarez is class and our best player simple as that. he is hell of a character and probably one the most loyal blokes and player of today.
ReplyDeletepatrice evra has virtually ruined his life in this country.
there are more serial divers in this division, suarezs problem is that hes very theatrical, he gets kicked left right and centre most weeks..............who else runs with the ball and takes on players like he does??
ronaldo was the last.
most great players have something about them on a football pitch, souness, cantona,gazza,beckham,keane,fowler etc etc
is suarez supposed to coware down and be walked over and lose his fight.
i really feel for the bloke, he certainly has not been bought up with a silver spoon in his mouth.
do a good thing jk and do a piece on his upbringing and his fight for servival through life as a kid.
he loves his country his friends his family and football
(even black people) !!
i state again and again, blame evra for all the sh#t he has to endure.
ReplyDeletebefore you slate me, tell me this, if suarez called ashley cole a chock ice, like ferdinand did, his life would not be worth living in england.
its just laughable and double standards. suarez could of denied all that petty stuff and lied like evra did, but he was a man and said what he did.
suarez deserves more respect, hes just a scape goat.
he has raw natural talent worth paying to see.
racism clearly only works one way........il never work that one out, but say anything else and its fine is it.
ReplyDeleteabuse in general towards players and fans needs to stop.
whys it okay to mock the dead and no punishment and scum like what england under 21"s had to endure from away fans gets rightly punished??
some sad cases would of said suarez deserved it if that coin hit him in the eye and blinded him. ot a dicky bird about it though. suarez gets more flac than jimmy saville. its a joke.
ReplyDeletewell said
ReplyDelete. where was it on sunday? br was spot on about officials, as proved sunday.
ReplyDeletesuarez and lfc are being cheated every other week, its clear to see for all.
how about do a post on johny evans for example, who has gne in recklessly twice this season and got 2 players sent off.
the fa and along with its officials needs totally clearing out, its corrupt. and english football and good paying public wil suffer untill its done.
dont recall suarez diving on sunday, and more thn a few others to think about it. some people are just waiting to slate him every given chance
ReplyDeletehaha spot on, you only name a couple though lol
ReplyDeletepro suarez ?? because hes a top player and runs his heart out for the club since he a arrived.
ReplyDeletepropper (SUPPORTER)
ReplyDeletecan someone tell me what YNWA stands for ive forgotten !!
were all perfect people and live in a perfect world.................oh ive just woken up,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,i dreamed i was jaimie........lol
his point is all we ever do s talk about suarez, when other players do the same or worse............................rocket science,,,,,,,,,,,,,,springs to mind.......
ReplyDeleteFace it Jaimie; if Suarez left Liverpool, you would be out of a job.
ReplyDeletethey didnt get half as much. one played for the russian mafia and the other.....well, i wont waste my breath.
ReplyDeletedid he kill or cripple someone?? hes pure evil that suarez really bad person, police should be monitering him!!
ReplyDeleteNobody likes cheating. Including Suarez himself, Liverpool is the epitome of English football. We win or lose like a real man. I do not care about other clubs, Its a no nonsense decision.
ReplyDeleteashley cole, gary neville just a couple that spring to mind swear at fans, no punishment. biting or breaking an ankle, i know what id rather recieve.
ReplyDeleteevra was an angel that day.
you along with other perect people totally detest luis suarez just admit it.
suarez out the country bodes for a perfect sportsman like premiere league.
lets get heskey back he was a true gent
Jamie, I`d like to point you to the rules of the comment policy. Attack the argument not the person ;-)
ReplyDeleteSecondly, your idea on group thinking is two sided, it could be said your doing group thinking, by acting with the bigger group! irrationally painting out LS to be the worst player in the prem, and to ignore other types of cheating.
Personally I don`t condone any type of cheating, but im wise enough to see that every team in the prem cheats in every game.
It should be the managers job to tackle it, but lets be honest, with the money at stake reality is they wont. Therefore the officials do have a role to play, and to be frank, not just against us, but in general this season they have been really bad. Yet no one is allowed to say that or the F.A fine them.
Lastly, your ideas about why so many followed AH aren`t actually correct. At the time the masses didn`t follow AH out of a group thinking basis, and thus not see the heinous crimes, but because at the time the Jewish community had crippled the rest of the German citizens by controlling most of the finical power and not employing anyone outside there own community. AH then solved this issue by taking the power back, in return his people loved him for it. The crimes he commited didn`t really come out until after the war had finished, therefore only a handful knew about them at the time. There was also a feeling of national pride, and for some fear.
Just thought I would correct you on your use of group thinking ;-)
I don't see Suarez being on the front page in the papers and top billing in the news as much as Saville.
ReplyDeleteyep his initial diving has been such a great help for the club, that we barely get any decisions now(!)
ReplyDeleteabsolute rubbish. Has Suarez ever been pressured into answering a diving question straight after a match on camera, like the BBC did to Drogba? Only because of the rise of the online social media does it seem like it is more intense now but take away that 'inflation', Suarez's treatment is no worse than Drogba's or Ronaldo's. 'didn't get half as much'...pull the other one, pathetic.
ReplyDeleteWith respect, that's not correct. The German people were aware of the segregation and mistreatment of Jews yet still supported and lionised AH. Take Kristallnacht, for example: mass attacks against Jews throughout Nazi Germany; thousands of Jewish businesses; destroyed; synagogues burned; 30,000+ jews dumped in concentration camps. KN was massively publicised across the globe and in Germany, and German civilians actually took part.
ReplyDeleteWhat did the German people do in response to this? They worshipped AH even more, despite knowledge of the Nazi Party's atrocities.
Groupthink in action.
great post,you've played the game.
ReplyDeleteStood on his foot you mean?
ReplyDeleteSome of the stupid fans would love to see him out. Jaimie, you should change the name of the blog to Suarez bashing blog...you seem to write 2 articles everyday to bash Suarez.
ReplyDeleteThere is no way you can make a comparison between today and yesteryear. We never had the benefit then of excessive coverage of games, multiple camera angles and interactive media. People are people and throughout history personalities of all kinds have trascended throughout all aspects of life. I do not personally know our players from the 70s/80s (although I did meet the '81 team as a kid) but I'm sure they weren't angels and would do whatever they could to win. It is well documented that Shankly would walk into the away team's dressing room to wish the opposition luck and quickly survey who might be nursing an injury. He certainly didn't come back into his own dressing room and warn his boys of being careful of such and such player because they're carrying a niggle. On the contrary, he would tell them to apply as much pressure as possible on that player to make them as ineffective as possible. Is that sportsman like? Suarez does rightly or wrongly what he feels he needs to do to help LFC win. He is not hurting or killing anyone. This is a game and moreover an entertainment. Sport is not pure, it never has been and it never will be.
ReplyDeleteThe story on Suarez was written the day he arrived and the false moralists have been doing acrobatics trying to make the facts somehow fit their preconceptions.
ReplyDeleteThe handball against Ghana was a clever play ultimately endorsed even by those who were negatively affected by it, the Ghanaian players. But the self-appointed defenders of the game beat their chests claiming that it is cheating, hypocritically ignoring the fact that the play has been executed by others for many years, including Jackie Charlton in the 1966 semifinal with Portugal, without any, any complaint. It is not cheating, and those who claim otherwise either do not understand the sport or have an agenda.
The self-appointed defenders of the game also point to the biting incident. Suarez bit him because he was stamped on the foot several times during the game by the PSV Eindhoven player. Suarez apologized on the field (walked out with his arm around the shoulder of Bakal) and then issued an official apology. The false moralists accept Phil Neville's apology but apparently not Suarez's.
Suarez is then found guilty by an FA kangaroo court without any evidence whatsoever other than Suarez's own admission that he used the word "negro", which in Spanish means 'mate" in that context. The false moralists condemn him as a racist, even though the FA tribunal, perhaps in a nod to the fact that they knew they had mounted a farce, admitted that they did not think he was racist. They also blame LFC for standing by what they believe is the truth. In rushing to the sanctuary of political correcteness, the false moralists throw dirt on LFC, claiming that their defense of Suarez sends a terrible message about the fight against racism. Haven't heard the false moralists make the same point about he referees' association's support of Clattenburg.
Now the lie is about Suarez's diving. The false moralists jump at the new moral crusade while opportunists like Moyers and assorted defenders who have been nutmegged into submission by Suarez look for revenge. Suarez is being singled out for what is a widespread feature of the modern game. Exaggeration is a necessity of the game. If the forward does not fall after significant contact, then cheating by defenders would be rewarded because referees simply do not call fouls unless a player falls. Suarez is an exaggerator, and actually a poor one at that. He is very rarely a diver. Certainly much less than others. But the false moralists, who in some cases reek of xenophobia, single Suarez out.
JK has gone so far as to draw analogies of Suarez's behavior to the act of murder and Nazi Germany. It is reckless and hateful statements like this and by a wide sector of the media that have created a combustible atmosphere that could end up not just in injustice, like the discrimination that Suarez has been suffering which puts the integrity of the game into question, but I am afraid could result in tragedy. There are crazy people out there and irresponsible members of the media are effectively inviting people to act out against Suarez.
Suarez loves Liverpool but for his sake and the safety of his family, he should leave.
Seems everyone wants to write something about, all from BBC to blogs. End of the day it's money making news! Isn't it ?
ReplyDeleteI'm confused - what does this have to do with 'Honest' Phil Neville's faltering standards of decency?
ReplyDeleteWhat about cheats who claim for a corner or throw in when the balls hits him and goes out. Or those cheats who claim for hand ball when the ball does not hit the hand of the opposition players...Isn't that fair play, sportmanship...why are you only targeting Suarez?
ReplyDeleteReally isn't that hard to count
ReplyDeleteMe thinks Jamie gets pulled in by the media quite a bit, Suarez has dived a few times but that's it a few times its not every match but he does get accused every match, only to then watch him get battered in the replay and then chastised by the commentators who say yeah its his reputation ... that they keep wrongly attacking and making worse.
ReplyDeleteBad tackles? Distin one really shocked me to wondering what the hell everyone else was watching, hes running behind him all over darting from side to side Distin changes direction quickly Suarez didn't ... back of the ankle raked, Suarez slips but watch his face as it happens of pure shock like how you look when you slip a foot or so on frosty ground a "woooh" moment.
Other bad tackles? HES A FORWARD, years and years of commentators saying oh yeah typical forwards tackle lead me to believe they perhaps aren't as tackle minded ...
If you were being "hacked down and Raked" every match without getting any decisions you'd occasionally go down easy ahead of the anticipation of getting absolutely jack sh*t after someone yet again tries to break his legs.
Please now follow up this with a story about how crap Johnson is when everyone else is going on about how much hes come on as a player and after watching match after match of him dominating and creating more chances than most people on the pitch.
Whats wrong with you?
A-f***king-men brother. Spot on.
ReplyDeletePulled in by the media? Utter nonsense. My views are my own, and I don't take any notice of what the 'media' says, and this has been proven over 6 years this site has been going. Before Suarez even arrived I wrote articles urging the club not to sign him. No one else did. I've been entirely consistent.
ReplyDeleteDon't forget to add Gareth Bale to the list of 'media favourites'. This guy can do no wrong, no matter how many times he dives.
ReplyDeleteOn the same day Suarez was vilified by the 'anti christ' of football from Stoke, the Bale dive was completely overlooked by the press.
Jamie will always write articles like these. Slating the team and it's players is the best way to get hits on his website. Which in turn gets his affiliates more clicks and keeps his site running.
ReplyDeleteSome good points there, mate.
ReplyDeleteI thought EXACTLY the same thing when the Ref Association said they would be giving their full support to Clattenburg. And nobody batted an eyelid, the fncking hypocrites. Yet Kenny backs his player, and he's castigated for it - a decent man hounded out of the game by a voracious media (and a section of his own support) with skewed morals.
Clattenburg’s refereeing colleagues are also supporting him, including, it is understood, the officials who worked with him on Sunday and whose evidence will be so important in establishing exactly what was said. No quotes from Andre Marriner as yet.
Even Neil Warnock, who labelled a player a "sewer rat", then picks him every week has joined in; "I hope if it is proved wrong, that the players, whatever they alleged Mark to have said, get done as well. I think he made a mistake but they are trying to kill him and I don’t agree with that." Not sure if he was available for comment during Suarez-gate......
The other analogy you didn't mention was Taggart saying that 'Rio had assured him he would wear the Kick it Out T-Shirt'. Hey presto, Plug doesn't wear the T-shirt and makes his manager look an arse (Kenny:Suarez, anyone?). "He will be dealt with, no question about that" says the Knight of the Realm (pfft). Not : "He's a disgrace. He should be drummed out of the club for lying to me"........
2 days later, he's "had a word" with United's self-appointed MLK, and everything is sorted. No mention of a fine, but there you go.
Forgot to add that we're still waiting for a soundbite from Paul McGrath, but it's only 10:00am and he hasn't made it back from the pub yet........
ReplyDeleteKicking/barging/diving/feigning injury - they're all wrong Jaimie. One is no more or less wrong than the other. You can't pick your poison to suit yourself in this instance. Can't understand why you vilify LS for something that every other player in the PL does. Yes, it's tiresome, but they ALL do it so really you should dislike football as a whole and not just LS.
ReplyDeleteSo how did man u actually cheat against chelsea?? I thought it was just poor refing tbh!
ReplyDeleteexcellently put!
ReplyDeletelol cheats claiming hand ball. Suarez is a cheat on a different level. He has world wide focus on him becase he has done so many controversial things!
ReplyDeleteForget the evra incident, or the fact he bit someone during a match.
Just rewind back to the world cup the match against Ghana in 2010.
He is a cut above, and never shows remorse, if he wasn’t a footballer, he would be a thug!
The influence Fagerson has on officials is equal to Cheating.
ReplyDeleteExcellent argument Ram-Leen, spot on.
ReplyDeleteJaimie, Why didn't you respond Team-Leen's point.would like to hear your point of view on that.
ReplyDeleteJaimie, Why didn't you respond to Reem-Leen's point.would like to hear your point of view on that.
ReplyDeleteThe stupid childish name calling aside, I'm sure you have proof of this cheating....
ReplyDeleteyep, that is the kind of examples I meant by 'at all costs'(!) Well done for taking it to childish extremes.
ReplyDeleteAnd you tell other people off for putting words in their mouth, that is exactly what you are doing here, he said it's not right to cheat to win. Fact of the matter is, cheating in one form or another is a fact of football, it's always been there and always will be. If you ban Suarez for life, then that won't remove cheating from the game. You are naive if you think it will. All I know is that I would rather have Suarez on our side than play against him, because taking away his misdemeanours, he is an amazing footballing talent.
ReplyDeleteuntil you get off your couch and play the sport at the level these players do ,its a bit ridiculous you call suarez a cheat ,i can just imagine if one of your team mates sacrificed his chance of playing in a final to help the team make the final i bet you would still celebrate and play in teh final despite the fact one of your so called cheating team mates helped you get there , players cheat the rules in every game every week in every league in teh world . pulling shirts ,taking a throw in when you know it came off your boot , all sighn of cheating hense gain and advantage with some what repurcusions of your actions, every one calls suarez a cheat , pfft yes he dives so do alot of players and cheat in different ways , but how many times have u seen suarez have fouls not given to him when they are fouls theres heaps of the times and all i hear is its his reputation why he doesnt get them , well sorry to say referees are payed like players to be professional and do theyre job properly regardless of a players reputation the minute the ref decides to wave play on when he knows its a foul he him self is cheating as well , i can recall a goal spurs scored against man united and the goal keeper new it was over the line by a mile but he looked up at the ref like a kid with his hand caught in the cookie jar and played on , he cheated he knew it was a goal , theres so many instances in our game and many other sports , a certain lance armstrong comes into my mind of cheats , ynwa
ReplyDeleteJust because you can't prove something, doesn't mean it's cheating. The only people who can say one way or another is Ferguson and the referee in question, and neither will say that they are in cahoots with each other. That is not to say that they aren't. For instance, Torres's second yellow, the one he got for "diving", was not diving and how you can give a second yellow for such an unclearcut situation is poor officiating. The fact that this kind of thing happens for Man Utd time and time again is proof in it's own way that something is up and that is that Ferguson is a very influential individual when it comes to referees
ReplyDeleteWhen you don't like a player, you see everything he does in the wrong way. I'm guessing you also didn't like his celebration after the first goal?
ReplyDeleteFouling is still a form of cheating. To think it is not is very short-sighted. By fouling, you are breaking the rules to gain an advantage, that is what cheating is all about.
ReplyDeleteHe will only see what he wants to see and if we tell him he is wrong, he will ban us.
ReplyDelete'circumstantial theory'. Enough said.
ReplyDeleteBeing that you are from Ireland, I would be interested to know how you felt when Thierry Henry cheated in the World Cup qualifying match against you lot.
ReplyDeleteOriginalChan, when you own race horses, you are in control of a lot of things. It's all about money.
ReplyDeleteYou of all people should know this. gambling is in your blood. right?
Ah yes, but according to Jaimie, he cheated by hacking into Distin and Mirallas. But oh wait, fouling isn't cheating, as says Jaimie. Seems it's only cheating when Suarez does it. Funny this is, Sterling clearly dived in the game on the weekend and nothing has been said about that.
ReplyDeleteFunny that he didn't dive yet he is still in the headlines, Sterling dived on at least one occasion, possibly two, the possibly two incident being the yellow card to Osman, and Jaimie hasn't mentioned that once.
ReplyDeleteThe sum of all things is fishy in the least
ReplyDeleteTell me something, did you call Sterling out for diving in the Merseyside derby? Because he did at least once, possibly twice. I haven't heard you mention that once in your holier than thou crusade against diving.
ReplyDeletesorry, what do you mean its in my blood? I could make assumptions on what you have said, but I rather not jump to conclusions, so please enlighten me.
ReplyDeleteYep, circumstantial kind of 'fishy'. But thats all it is for now.
ReplyDeleteThat Mirallas incident was a yellow-able foul yes... but Distin incident seemed accidental to me. I'm not convinced Jaimie. You've written two articles on this and posted two videos.
ReplyDeleteSuarez: you either love him or hate him - I'm an African, I feel more heartbreak from the 2010 incident than the Euro's and wherever else you guys are from... Especially since I watched Ghana play in Johannesburg live and really wanted them to do well and go on in the tournament.
Truth be told, I would have done that for MY team. I love Luis Suarez, and while he can be dodgy at times, he is still one hell of a special and passionate player. He's only human, I expect better from an LFC fan to repetitively jump on his back. sorry mate...
We'll I certainly cared bud. But yes... I'd have done the same!
ReplyDeleteI BLAME THE MANCS!
ReplyDeletehmmmm so the professional foul is not cheating as it comes under the disguise of a foul, cheating is cheating no matter how you try to split hairs.
ReplyDeleteAs has already been stated, diving is inherent in the game, no one is saying it's right but what annoys folks is the way Suarez is singled out for criticism, which in turn gives a very biased view, if you want balance on this topic how about your next article actually naming all those players that cheat, you would then have a very long list and notice the problem is widespread throughout football. Not heard much about Neville getting booked for simulation, but then he doesn't play for us so we can forgive him eh, he has been as dirty a player as anyone.
Surely it can only be classed as cheating when a player gets booked. If the ref hands out no punishment the the player must have been seen to be innocent of simulation. The refs control the game not the managers (although some may say fergie plays a part)
ReplyDeleteI know you have hated Suarez from the start and I feel your just waiting for anything to go wrong just to say I told you so....
ReplyDeleteYour tag says 100% behind Rodgers but its bs, he loves Suarez and your one of the people putting massive pressure on him. why don't you try using your position as a well followed journalist to help change his vilification and turn things around, he's a special player to come to us a player hasn't caused this much of a stir since cr7 was at the scum.
He's not as bad as you make out
Ronaldo done it to win games,
ReplyDeleteDrogba done it for years before that interview.
Pathetic and bias
Suarez could stop his antics tomorrow and it would make no difference to the treatment he gets from fans from other clubs (and by the sounds of it some LFC fans too). To think different shows a lack of understanding. His name is tarnished for as long as he stays in England no matter what he does, a real no win situation..The measure of his character is that he remains in English football despite all the abuse and media using him as a scapegoat to highlight all that is wrong in the game as though it is just him doing it. The real fault lies in the way the game is now run and officiated, we have the technology available to help refs weed out cheating yet we choose not to use it, possible reason is it may stop the free flowing play that makes our sport Football and NOT American Football.
ReplyDeleteThe way the game has evolved has to take some of the blame for how the game is now played. Rule changes, perception of what is a foul etc has led to what we now see. Players falling over fresh air would never have got a free kick so they just didn't do it, nowadays players know they stand a very good chance of getting a free kick from the merest of contact so it's obvious they will make the most of it when it happens, divers perceive there will be contact and therefore presume they can start falling as soon as their brain tells them contact maybe incoming, even when there is ultimately no contact.
The game has to change and bring back some of the old values/rules, let players know the advantage is to stay on their feet.
Look how virtually impossible it is now for an outfield player to even challenge the goalkeeper, may as well do away with corners altogether in the name of our evolving game. Sometimes the old ways really were best...
Drogba was that bad his own fans booed him for it. Fact. My father in law goes to the games!!!
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