Over the last year, I've argued repeatedly in various posts that Liverpool should sign Huddersfield striker Jordan Rhodes. To be honest, I simply cannot understand why the Reds have not snapped him up yet, and with Liverpool's goalscoring issues still a major problem, I'm once again calling for the club to pull out all the stops and bring the incredibly prolific striker to Anfield before the end of the transfer window.
Liverpool have a history of plucking successful players from the lower leagues. Amongst others: Ian Rush came from Chester City; Alan Hansen arrived from Partick Thistle; John Aldridge signed from Oxford United, Steve Nicol came from Ayr United, and Sami Hyypia came from Willem II. All went on to become Anfield legends.
Some facts about Rhodes, who is also a full International:
* 40 goals and 3 assists in 39 games for Huddersfield last season.
* Last three seasons: 85 goals/14 assists in 124 starts (= 1 goal/assist every 1.2 games)
* Rhodes perfectly fits the club's new transfer policy under FSG, and given the fact he plays for a League one team, he wouldn't cost the earth.
* Three player of the year awards.
* Holds the record for the fastest ever headed hat-trick (3 in 8 minutes)
For me, the only question to consider here is this: Why would Liverpool NOT want to sign this guy? Rhodes is the archetypal natural goalscorer, and with such rare natural goalscoring ability, the chances of him making the grade at a higher level of football seem high.
Liverpool have been snapping up youngsters from all over Europe for years, and how may of them have actually made the grade? Rhodes is a prodigious goalscorer with tremendous talent and superb potential, and if Liverpool don't snap him up, some other top club will.
I've seen Rhodes play live three times so far (twice for Huddersfield, once for Scotland), and he's scored in all three games. His movement, anticipation, awareness and finishing are superb, and very reminiscent of a young Robbie Fowler, another striker who - like Rhodes - didn't have great pace, but was second to none in the goalscoring department.
Rhodes is the answer; seriously, he is the player Liverpool need, and given the fact he's lower profile than the likes of Suarez and Borini, it will be easier to fit him into the team, unlike an expensive 'superstar', who would expect to play every game.
The transfer window closes on Friday, and in my view, Rhodes should be Liverpool's top priority, and for £6-£8m, he's surely got to be worth it?
I know there are many other LFC fans who feel the same way about Rhodes, so come on, Brendan: sign him!
Rhodes scores 5 goals against Wycombe last season:
Jaimie Kanwar
Liverpool have a history of plucking successful players from the lower leagues. Amongst others: Ian Rush came from Chester City; Alan Hansen arrived from Partick Thistle; John Aldridge signed from Oxford United, Steve Nicol came from Ayr United, and Sami Hyypia came from Willem II. All went on to become Anfield legends.
Some facts about Rhodes, who is also a full International:
* 40 goals and 3 assists in 39 games for Huddersfield last season.
* Last three seasons: 85 goals/14 assists in 124 starts (= 1 goal/assist every 1.2 games)
* Rhodes perfectly fits the club's new transfer policy under FSG, and given the fact he plays for a League one team, he wouldn't cost the earth.
* Three player of the year awards.
* Holds the record for the fastest ever headed hat-trick (3 in 8 minutes)
For me, the only question to consider here is this: Why would Liverpool NOT want to sign this guy? Rhodes is the archetypal natural goalscorer, and with such rare natural goalscoring ability, the chances of him making the grade at a higher level of football seem high.
Liverpool have been snapping up youngsters from all over Europe for years, and how may of them have actually made the grade? Rhodes is a prodigious goalscorer with tremendous talent and superb potential, and if Liverpool don't snap him up, some other top club will.
I've seen Rhodes play live three times so far (twice for Huddersfield, once for Scotland), and he's scored in all three games. His movement, anticipation, awareness and finishing are superb, and very reminiscent of a young Robbie Fowler, another striker who - like Rhodes - didn't have great pace, but was second to none in the goalscoring department.
Rhodes is the answer; seriously, he is the player Liverpool need, and given the fact he's lower profile than the likes of Suarez and Borini, it will be easier to fit him into the team, unlike an expensive 'superstar', who would expect to play every game.
The transfer window closes on Friday, and in my view, Rhodes should be Liverpool's top priority, and for £6-£8m, he's surely got to be worth it?
I know there are many other LFC fans who feel the same way about Rhodes, so come on, Brendan: sign him!
Rhodes scores 5 goals against Wycombe last season:
Jaimie Kanwar
Jamie, this still puzzles me!
ReplyDeleteWe need to sign this guy ASAP! For £6M is a no brainer!
What a record!
Exactly. I just can't comprehend why we haven't signed him. We waste 100m+ on dross that's now warming the bench and we can't spare 6m for England's top goalscorer in any league? It's massively frustrating.
ReplyDeleteYes, there's always the possibility that he could fail at Anfield, but given his record, natural ability and level-headedness, the probability is slim.
100m dross warming the bench? Who? Names and figures please.
ReplyDeleteid rather see if we can loan the guy first maybe throw one of our youngsters their way , id be interested to see how he goes when he doesnt get the space like he does in the lower leagues , premiership defenses arent that obliging , but his record is second to none so could be worth the risk
ReplyDeleteHaha So we need to waste 6m to get an Ipswich reject just because he has some decent stats in league one hahhaha
ReplyDeleteCarroll - 35m
ReplyDeleteDowning - 20m
Henderson - 20m
Adam - 8m
Spearing - 5m *Estimated value
Cole - 5m *Estimated value
= 93m
I'm rounding up.
Then why is it no one has signed him
ReplyDeleteI have my doubts on Rhodes yes he played well against Australia and his movement and timing was good and he did well to score but if he is so good why at that price are lots of clubs not lining up for him?
ReplyDeleteWhat are your doubts?
ReplyDeleteNot for £6m scoring in league 1 is one thing but the premier league is a totally different matter, I do think Liverpool should take a chance on him but at around £3m-£4m max not £6m-£8m.
ReplyDeleteJust because no one has signed him doesn't mean he's not a good player Perhaps he hasn't been ready to leave?
ReplyDeletehe'll become the colossus of rhodes
ReplyDeleteahhh those bloody scottish....
ReplyDelete"frustration" is exactly how you make liverpool fans feel reading your garbage.
ReplyDeleteI detest the fact you are on a blogg called liverpool-kop, your moronic stories everyday are a blight on the internet and its people like you spreading utter rubbish transfer rumours that make the transfer window unbearable.
Please please please go away kanwar.
How long before my opinion about you is deleted ?
maybe its because we spent 100m on dross that we dont have the 6mil spare for a risky buy, of which it is. His stats are great, but league one isnt the prem.
ReplyDeleteas someone else said, ask for a loan with a higher priced buy option at the end, say 8mil
ReplyDeleteone has to wonder why no other prem clubs have snapped him up.
ReplyDeleteHowever, at 6m, or less if we can throw in some unwanted kids, surely he's worth a punt?
persosonally i would prefer jelavic or the new everton forward for that kind of money, but they are gone and soon to be worth a lot more.
I thought he signed for someone else in the Championship?? Guess it was a differnet person. For under £10 million, I think he is worth it!
ReplyDeleteThis is an easy excuse. Huddersfield are in the Championship now, and Rhodes has scored two goals in two games, continuing his streak. If a player is good enough, they'll do the business in the Premier League.
ReplyDeleteLook at Jelavic, for example. He came from the SPL, which is arguably the same standard as the English lower leagues. He cost 6m and he's banging them in left, right and centre.
Lots of fans on this site said exactly the same thing when we were interested in Jelavic: PL is different; it's okay scoring goals in the SPL but can he in the PL etc.
Rhodes will score in the PL; he has a gift, and it's something you can't teach.
The Guy is simply not good enough for the Premier league. Its alright to criticise LFC for not signing him but then NO premier league club has come in for him. I read a championship club were having a look (might have been blackpool) but other than that no mention. 20 premier League Clubs cannot be wrong unless of course they are wrong and JK is right which I doubt.
ReplyDeleteIf your reading Brendon leave this guy well alone
Not a chance of that i dont think although it would be good! There would be no benifit for them to loan him to us, even if we sent someone in his place. It would basically be for us to see if we want to buy him or not.
ReplyDeletecole(wages) carroll(fee and wages) adam(fee and wages) aquaman gone for big loss, henderson(fee and wages) downing (fee and wages) ALOT OF DROS
ReplyDeleteI'd buy him for relatively cheap, give Huddersfield first option if things go sour, and give them another few million on appearance related money. Sweeten the deal and send Ngoo or Morgan there on loan. What ya think? As for the league one etc talk, quite a few players with worse strike records have made the step up.
ReplyDeleteIf you close him down he probably might not be able to deal it. He scores goal like he's the only one on the pitch. EPL is not that spacious.
ReplyDeleteI think it is more about the style said league plays. Using the dutch leagues as a example there strikers there score nuts amounts, yet not many do when they come to the EPL. This i think is due to the style of play there. So the question is League one to Prem, whats the main differences of football style, and would that effect him?
ReplyDeleteI dont watch enough of league one to answer that. However it is a big step up, not just in playing style but in life style and the extra pressure. At the right price though it seems worth a shot
NO CHANCE WOULD HUDDERSFIELD BLOCK A MOVE,, they are not gr8 financially,, Rhodes has been told if there is a chance of him improving his career they would not stop him aslong as a decent fee came in for him,, i believe no1 has come in for him because he is not very mobile,, he is less than good techinaclly and over 80% of his goals have come from leftsided crosses,, balls from the right he can't seem to get near them... so lets c,, 6mil for a slow,, techinaless goal scoring from 1 side of the pitch only player,,sounds gr8 business... PEOPLE,, THINK b4 your fingers type your thoughts on here
ReplyDeleteWe have signed him
ReplyDeleteWhy not buy him to secure the deal and loan him back to Huddersfield so that they can make the premier league next year
ReplyDeleteJust read the comments and they are the EXACT REPLICA OF WHAT WAS SAID BEFORE ALDRIDGE SIGNED FROM OXFORD. Some of the guys here think you can only sign players who coat £77777777777 million
ReplyDeleteSorry, Robbie, but everything you've written here is unbacked, speculative assertion. 'Balls from the right he can't seem to get near them'?! Are you kidding?
ReplyDelete'Less than technically good'?! Sorry, that is just totally incorrect.
His goals tally speaks for itself. You don't score that many goals if you're not technically good.
I for one would bring Jordan Rhodes in, before Sturridge, You cant buy what Rhodes has in abundance, natural talent he`s instinctive, unlike Sturridge, who IMO is a bit to greedy, and cocky, and seems to have a rush of blood to the head too often for my liking, plus Rhodes would cost £8m at the most, and Sturridge a reported £25m its a no brainer IMO.
ReplyDeleteThis will be the last time ever I post here - Kanwar is a tool; unless he thinks he should apply for a job at LFC.
ReplyDeleteRepeated sniping, stupid sensationalist headlines i.e "Epic Fail!" This guy is a no-mark; go & read some decent quality...
2 things here:- 1) he played at very lower levels, heck shelvey was a beast at blackpool...how many did he score at LFC??
ReplyDelete1) Who the heck is frustrated for not signing him??
Why is he not good enough for the Premier League? Did you just pull that soundbyte out of the air or do you have some kind of credible reasoning to go with it?
ReplyDeleteThe issue with us right now is to bring somebody who is very proven not a risk. Rhode can come on loan. If he can perform with LFC reserve then the risk might just be worth it.
ReplyDeleteThere is no time to think in the EPL if you want to score e.g Torres's goal against Newcastle and RVP's goal against Fulham tells you that if esitate wrongly you get nothing.
Rhode has some tight goals too but under the EPL pressure, he might be totally consumed.
£ 5 MILLION FOR JOE COLE - if he goes it will be on a FREE
ReplyDeleteThe queston is -with all the paid scouts in football these days and the ''direct marketing' that agents do, why are clubs not queuing to sign this guy,if hes so good!
ReplyDeleteOf course we don't need to sign him. There's plenty of "young gems" all over the world that we can buy for millions (Victor Flora from Brazil anyone) and turn them into world beaters. On a serious note, this guy is quality, but so far we have only seen him perform at League 1 and 3 games in the Championship, he looked off the pace against Nottingham Forest, scoring a penalty against the run of play. Liverpool need a goalscorer but it would be a gamble, not only for us but on the young lads career aswell.
ReplyDeleteDONT YOU JUST LOVE THIS WEEL - WE WILL BE LOST ONCE FRIDAYS PAST BUT WE CAN HAVE A GREAT 4 DAYS EH BOYS
ReplyDeleteI think quite a few people had their doubts about Allen also.... but that seems to be working out quite well, basically if Brendan thinks he can fit into his system, and if his movement and overall play is good enough then we should buy him, i havn't seen much of the kid tbh but im beginning to see the bigger picture re our transfers in this window.....and so far i like what i see...
ReplyDeleteI am frustrated. I wrote the post so I think that's an easy connection to make, no?
ReplyDeleteCan you read? Did I say we would sell him for 5m. I said 'estimated value'.
ReplyDeleteRhodes has that natural ability! We would have nothing to lose! We could even throw a couple of our kids on loan for the season to sweeten the deal!
ReplyDeleteI've nothing against Rhodes as I've never watched him play, but to say that he's a natural talent 'unlike Sturridge' is ridiculous. Sturridge has more technical ability than probably any player in the England team atm and if he was named Torres, he'd be praised for his ability to create his own chances (as opposed to Torres who is continually excused for his failings with all blame apportioned to teammates for not giving him tap-ins to tuck away).
ReplyDeleteAnd according to 'my sources' Sturridge won't cost anywhere near £25m if he does manage to escape Torres' shadow this summer.
@b3458be0fe2e74b6dacf88ade8c51a56:disqus Top clubs are run by people with more money than sense. In England moreso than abroad. That's my opinion anyway.
ReplyDeleteJK unlike you i am just a humble football supporter and I have watched football and supported LFC for over 45 years I am in my 50s. He is not good enough for the premier league because all the high flying coaches scouts managers etc who are employed in that division have passed him by. So like you do sometimes, I made an assumption that if 20 premier league scouting departments havent made a move to sign him or 20 premier league managers havent come out and said he's the chap for me then I guess that he isnt good enough for the premier league. Do you think my assumption is correct or not.
ReplyDeleteFollowing your articles last season about Rhodes I made a concious effort to watch him. I did watch 3 games and I have to say he was bad, very bad in 2 of them 1 not so bad but he didnt score.
There is a world of difference playing against Hull City's back 4 or Barnsley or Ipswich etc etc etc to coming up against class defenders at Man Utd, Chelsea, City,Liverpool Etc Etc.
From what I have seen he would be outclassed in this company.
So no soundbyte just what I have seen and common sense.
The doubts with Allen were more about whether there was a need for that type of player, not about his individual quality.
ReplyDeleteAnd fwiw, irrespective of how good he is, I'd still have been disappointed if Allen and Borini were the only upgrades made
No, you used a more generalize term "Frustration" instead of "Frustrated" which would imply your own sentiments. Anyway, not to stretch this any further....I would like him if he comes for around 2-3mn MAX. Btw, what you think of Ngoo?? he is scoring loads of goals in U21 team..??
ReplyDeleteIt looked like Tevez and Toure had quite a bit of space when they scored against us at the weekend.
ReplyDeleteSome people SERIOUSLY over-rate the level of defending in the Premiership...
I have read a lot of these comments and as a Huddersfield Town fan would love to see Rhodes at Liverpool or a similar PL team that plays football. In the past we have supplied the PL with good forwards Stead, Stewart, Booth etc none have played in a good footballing team. Pilkington went to Norwich from us last year and he performed regularly well in the PL. Rhodes is different class his eye for a goal is second to none and whilst he does not have electric pace put him one on one with a chance on goal he'll find the net more often than not with either foot and he's a decent header of the ball and brave to go with it. But you'll need 8M to get him as he's british and we do not need to sell.
ReplyDelete"frustration" is exactly how you make liverpool
ReplyDeletefans feel reading your garbage.
I detest the fact you are on a blogg called liverpool-kop, your moronic stories
everyday are a blight on the internet and its people like you spreading utter
rubbish transfer rumours that make the transfer window unbearable.
Please please please go away kanwar.
How long before my opinion about you is deleted ?
It was Blackburn. And Premier League clubs regularly make stupid decisions in the players they choose to ignore and those they choose to sign.
ReplyDeletePlayers like Heskey, Quashie & Bramble wouldn't have picked up so much money from Premier League clubs over the years if clubs/managers never made wrong decisions.
God you're right! Why has nobody from Liverpool seen this? Actually, come to think of it, why haven't any of the Premier League clubs snapped him up? Come to think of it, who's to say that if we tried to get him we would succeed? Maybe nobody listens to you Jamie, maybe there's a reason for that also, I'd suggest it's because you're no negative most of the time, it might be hard for anyone to take anything positive you have to say seriously...
ReplyDeleteAh, so you CAN comprehend why we haven't signed him!
ReplyDeleteJay I appreciate what you say about stupid decisions but in this instance there are absolutely nil, zilch premier league takers for this player so are they all stupid ? Is Sir AF, AVB, stupid. Even David Moyes bought Kevin Meirelles before he looked at him for the same kind of money.
ReplyDeleteAs for Heskey how can somebody earn 62 caps and make nearly 400 Prem League appearances if they where not good enough. Using JKs formula Heskey could be deemed to be world class !. Heskey has played key roles at every club he signed for including ours. Just cause you didnt like him....
this should have been as a reply to JKs comment following my first comment sorry its in the wrong place
ReplyDeleteSomebody call Brendan !!
ReplyDeleteMy formula? Whatever it is, it does not apply to Emile Heskey! Was Emule a natural goalscorer? No. My point bout Rhodes is that he seems to have that rare, natural instinct to score goals, and those kind of players are dew and far between.
ReplyDeleteYou can throw a stone in any park on a sunday and fine 10 heskeys.
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I comprehend that you are well versed in the dark arts of extreme pedantry, yes.
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Would he be another Connor Wickham? I seem to remember him banging them in for Ipswich (I think) left, right and centre and many LFC fans hoping we'd bid for him. He got his move to the prem and, please correct me if I'm wrong, but hasn't he moved back to the Championship? Lower league goals don't seem to be a guarantee of premiership quality.
ReplyDeleteSaying that though I'd still take a risk on him for around £5m plus season long loan of Ngoo with the option to buy. The small-ish outlay may be the best money we've spent in a long time.
How about a straight swap for Carroll haha.
I refer to a debate that took place earlier in the summer when discussions regarding what constituted a world class player took place it was an attempt at humour JK I am sorry and I will make sure I dont try anything humorous again.
ReplyDeleteOnce again we must all bow to your superior footballing insight. All the Managers and Coaches that worked with Heskey must have been wrong including your own managerial darling King Martin O'Neil. You comment about stones and Heskey is grossly unfair and further more just wrong.
As for Rhodes I stand by what I have said natural ability or not he is not good enough for the Premier League as I have explained further down this debate
I am just a football fan too; just because I run a football website doesn't make me any less humble.
ReplyDeleteI see your points, and of course, you may be right. However, it's a bit of a logical fallacy to suggest that clubs not signing rhodes = he's not good enough. One doesn't necessarily follow the other.
Clubs have finite resources/spaces in their teams, and they have to prioritise. There are thousands of players every season that don't get signed; does that mean they're all rubbish?
No on tried to sign Steve McManaman when he was 20, 21, 22 etc. Does that mean he was crap?
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Agree, Jay. Some people make it sound like games are played on a 5aside pitch. There's plenty of space in the PL, but the genius of Fowleresque goalscorers is they don't need acres if space; they can score from the tightest situations.
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As an avid Huddersfield fan, I can assure you that Rhodes would score goals in the premier league. he has all the qualities to ensure his success at a higher level. He is just what Liverpool need; a level headed, down to earth lad in the vein of Robbie Fowler. I know a few Liverpool season ticket holders from Huddersfield and they have witnessed first hand the quality of Rhodes, and each of them agrees that Liverpool should come in for him. 6 million for Rhodes is not a punt...its a cracking deal for what you will get in return. Having watched some of the chances Borini has already scuppered this season (yeah, i know its early days) but i would have backed Rhodes to put those away. I would love Rhodes to stay at Huddersfield of course, but if he is to go I would love it to be to a great club like Liverpool where the fans are truly appreciative and knowledgeable. Be it at Huddersfield or Liverpool, Rhodes will never walk alone. Up the Terriers and best wishes for the season.
ReplyDeleteDo I need to start using endless smilies now? I know it was an attempt at humour, and I thought you'd see by my reference to 'Emule' that I was replying in kind.
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IInteresting comments about playing against defences of Hull, Barnsley and Ipswich. Were they the three matches you saw or have you made that all up? As a town fan I don't remember those games, as we played in a different league to those teams. What's the point of lying to try and prove a point?
ReplyDeleteI dont know if its a logicl fallacy or not JK but my response to your article was based upon an assumption that maybe in excess of 100 football experts based in clubs in the Prem L havent expressed any desire to sign Rhodes there it is afair assumption to make IMO that he isnt good enough. Plus what I have seen with my own eyes.
ReplyDeleteSteve Mc was fair from crap and we dont know if anyone approached the club about him but he was already proven at that age.
The point I am making is sometimes a manager will just take a chance on a player but in Rhodes case nobody even sees that not 1 PL manager.
this player is exactly what we need !!! he scores goals and we need them end of ! im with u jaimie this player is a must.
ReplyDeletesorry JK too much coffee today I have somehow lost my ability to read humour !!!!
ReplyDeleteGreat post, mate. Rhodes is an awesome goalscorer, and like you say, he probably would've buried some of the chances Borini et al have fluffed this season.
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Do your research before you spout uninformed crap about a club which you have no knowledge of.
ReplyDeleteNot gr8 financially - LMAO you could not be more wrong. Our chairman is a multi-millionaire who's been a Huddersfield fan all his life. Both he and the manager have said on numerous occasions that we DO NOT NEED to sell him. And where do your stats come from about 80% of his goals coming from crosses from the left? Can you justify your claim that he isn't very good technically? He is not "slow", he doesn't have lightning pace but his positional awareness and natural instinct to be in the right place at the right time makes up for any perceived lack of pace.
You're just a fan of a big club who thinks any player not from a top European side is crap. You're so delusional and ignorant it's hard to fathom. Numpty.
Might be worth a go, I don't really know.
ReplyDeleteBut there are 100's of scouts in England, loads of these must have looked at him, and spoken directly with Premier League Managers who have then decided against pursuing, there must be a reason...
Whoever buys him now is buying him on the cheap because he'll never be that cheap again - FACT!
ReplyDelete£3m-£4m wouldn't even buy his left leg. If our chairman received an offer in that region he would dismiss it immediately, if Rhodes is into double figures by January then the total value of any transfer would be £10m AT LEAST.
ReplyDeleteWhatever, IF we buy him i won't be dissapointed, BR means business and im sure he knows what he's looking for in a player.... might even end up with a surprise bigger name signing, then again we might not sign anyone....
ReplyDeleteOne thing we can probably agree on is that we do need SOMEONE who can put the ball in the back of the net....regularly, regardless of who he is and who he plays for...
I think you mean £8m at least Sharkio, not at most.
ReplyDeleteRobbie I'm a Huddersfield Town season ticket holder so I think I'm in a better position to pass judgement and you a talking rubbish. Rhodes has awsome movement in and around the box, He as an unbeivable ability to get across the frount of the defenders.
ReplyDeleteWe have turned down offers for him - 5m from West Ham in the last Jan window and 2m from the jokers at Ewood Park.
I pesonally think he is a better striker than than Carroll and he cost you 35m so as we are entilted to do we are holding out for a good offer - 8-10m.
£2m-£3m MAX - HAHAHAHAHA dream on Chirag. £8m is the MINIMUM he will leave for, when he eventually does leave. Thought it won't be until January at least.
ReplyDeleteThey blocked a move to Blackburn i thought?
ReplyDeleteLet me put it another way.........if Liverpool were still blessed with the scouting talents of Geoff Twentyman , Rhodes would have been at Liverpool at least 12 months ago. Maybe you are scouting the breadth of Europe in Spain and Italy, when your answer lies at the other side of the Pennines. If you put up a minimum of 6 million it would be a great deal for all concerned, though talk of young kids being loaned to us wont sugar the pill. We had martin Kelly on loan from Liverpool and he was simply fantastic scoring his first senior goal, but Nathan Eccleston did nothing at all. Although your lad Adam Morgan has promise, I dont think he is the kind of impact player we need at Huddersfield on a loan basis.
ReplyDeleteHahaha, well played!
ReplyDeleteI resisted using the full moniker - Emule Horseky - as I thought some fans may get offended ;-)
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He's a good natural goal scorer but offers very little outside the box. Not sure he would make the step up and Dean Hoyle has already stated numerous times that he won't be going for anything less than £8 million and even if an offer of that came in I'm not sure he would sell.
ReplyDeleteon one of the rare times i agree with you its a no brainer at 6to8 million cannot lose a lot but potencially every thing to gain miles better option than dempsey and imo he would be our top goalscorer this season but i still think we will have to sell to buy even fsg must see this is a win win situation
ReplyDeletehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o3SeHq5UOJQ
ReplyDeleteOut of those thirty goals, I made it thirteen from balls from the right, ten from balls from the left, and seven through penalties or balls through the centre, although obviously some of them are ambiguous.
Huddersfield have an asking price, which is widely regarded to be in excess of £6million, and may well be £8million or even more. Several clubs are known to be interested, but have either had lower bids turned down, haven't placed a bid because they don't have the money to match Huddersfield's asking price, or because they think Huddersfield's asking price is too high, but would be interested in Rhodes at a lower price. If Rhodes continues his prolific scoring streak, and the first few games of the season suggest that he might, that asking price will continue to rise. Huddersfield have a wealthy owner, Rhodes has three years left on his current contract, they have no need to sell him, but obviously would be prepared to at the right price.
Maybe you should think before your fingers type your thoughts on here, Robbie, and then learn to spell. "Techinaclly?" "Techinaless?" Seriously?
Who cares about contribution outside the box that someone elses job!
ReplyDeleteYes, I concede that you could be right that lots of teams have taken a look and ultimately decided against signing Rhodes (for whatever reason), but I submit that it's equally possible that there is no ability-related reason why he hasn't moved.
ReplyDeleteUltimately, a player has to want the move too, and perhaps Rhodes - at the agea of 20/21 - simply decided he wasn't ready to leave Huddersfield.
Clearly though, he hasn't left yet because he's waiting for LFC to make a move ;-)
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Urban Mystic is clearly Rhodes' agent!
ReplyDeleteYour not gonna believe this but I actually agree with you , no brainer for me if he didn't make the grade lower league sides would be queuing up to take him , maybe at a cut price but certainly worth the gamble
ReplyDeleteim not a LFC fan but i do follow most top teams.I think defoe would be the perfect player for LFC hes not wanted at spurs and would fit into most teams.The guy just lives to score goals, and looking at LFC from a different view to the fans I would say thats just what you need.To put the ball in the net from in and around the 6 yard box.
ReplyDeleteSomething liverpool always used to have
As far as I'm aware, Hell has not frozen over yet so, no, I don't believe you.
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Subject: [liverpoolkop] Re: Frustration! Why have LFC not signed this £6m 40-goal star yet? Do it! | Liverpool-Kop.com
That is not Liverpool class .
ReplyDeleteWHY HAVE LFC NOT SIGNED this 40 goals star yet? The answer to that...
ReplyDeletewe LIVERPOOL are BLIND and STUPID we need Bill Shankly back to help us where we belong 1970 and 1980 eras.
I hope you dont use similar disparaging remarks, when referring to our beloved Joke Hole.
ReplyDeleteThere is so much more to take into consideration when signing a young player with bags of potential. The players whole CV, family life, attitude, injury record, character, work rate, ability to listen, training philosophy etc etc. Every box needs ticking before a premiership club will pay millions for a kid with potential. Maybe somewhere this kid has skeletons that are not well documented but the scouts in the know are all to aware off. With the comprehensive scouting systems in place with every club in Europe these days I am certain every player especially by the time they reach 17 has a file on them somewhere.
ReplyDeletequite true Mikearms, and maybe thats just why those that know him and work with him every day value him higher than those that don't. Until then he won't be going anywhere, and even then only if Jordan wants the move. His current club must also have every confidence in his ability as his value could tumble if he flops this season... they obviously think he's going to go up in value, not down.
ReplyDeleteI cannot recall an “author” as one dimensional and
ReplyDeletearrogant as this guy , never the less
you seem to get a fair amount of feedback so I guess you are doing something
right. I could take a stab at your writing skills, technical presentation or
your football analysis, but I would rather stay on topic.
No doubting that young Jordan has a bags of potential, worth
eight million pounds? Possibly, due to the fact that his British (generally
overpriced ) , young and scoring goals for fun. We all know that the level
between the Premier League, League 1 and Championship are so vast that you
should take his stats with a pinch of salt really. That being said you have to
give credit to his natural goal scoring ability,
which is exactly what WE REQUIRE.
Would a purchase him ? no not at all , seems like a contradiction
after a certain amount of praise. The reasoning is simple , why spend millions
on Jordan when we have Morgan in our ranks . Huddersfield fans might be bemused , but I am sure my
fellow LFC supporters have to agree to some extent. Yes Morgan has not scored
like Rhodes simply due to the fact he has not played as much as him in lower
leagues , it will be fair to say that Rhodes is probably better, but will still
need a lot of progression. Which is exactly the same case for Morgan , he needs
to progress . The point I am trying to make is why spend millions on a player
who might not progress , when we have an extremely hard working young lad eager
to impress , with ability and will get all the love from the supporters which
could boost his confidence and push him to progress faster than Rhodes or any
other young talent around the world .(I could mention millions but I am trying
to stay on point.)
I've edited out all the derogatory comments. Stick to discussing football or please don't bother posting at all. If you want to slag me off, go and do it another LFC site. Any further posts that contain insults etc will be deleted.
ReplyDeleteGood points, Chucky. Agree with all of that.
ReplyDeleteI'll take it!
ReplyDeleteLooks like it would be a great signing! Another very interesting striker is the 21 year old Aalborg player Niclas Helenius:
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Would be a good addition, first team ?? Not yet but surly a squad player I.e for cup games ect then eventually first team player up front with Morgan, I really think he will end up to someone high in the championship, but people who thinks he's not class his record speaks itself, look at Walters for stoke he's come in strong, think we should bid 7mil and loan them a up and coming youngster YNWA
ReplyDeleteDid I prompt this thread? :)
ReplyDeleteThey did indeed, repeatedly. Huddersfield's stance was that he is simply not for sale. Would love to see him sign for us but I think they are fishing for more like 10m which would be too much of a gamble at this time considering our financial state.
ReplyDeleteThis guy is just another Jermaine Beckford in disguise... Bag goals for fun in League 1, had a reasonable tally in the Championship but didn't exactly set the world alight with Everton.
ReplyDeleteHe hasn't even played half a season in the Championship and you are calling for him to step up to a supposedly top table Prem side.... not worth $6m IMO. Would prefer to spend $15m on Sturridge
Jaimie, you're the one always bragging about your 'Liverpool contacts'
ReplyDeleteWhy don't you ask your sources and actually tell us why Rhodes hasn't been looked at??!!
Well, we know Rodgers isn't an idiot and, like you say Rhodes appears to tick a lot of boxes. I'd turn the question around ... why do you think we're not interested? Rodgers can see everything that you can, he's likely had scouts keeping tabs on the kid and would have a brief dossier on all potential targets. My point being that I find it hard to believe the average punter can spot talent that simply must be signed and yet the accomplished professional who dedicates his life to football and lives the game for likely in excess of 80 hours a week is simply ignorant. If Rodgers is ignoring this kid then what possible reasons would he have?
ReplyDeleteIts crazy now I look back and realise just what gems Rafa brought to LFC. If only he had the kind of cash available, without having to sell to balance the books...
ReplyDeleteBut thats over now, in BR we trust...
To be fair Jaimie, you have said you have only seen him play 3 games live, that is not enough to make assertions that everything Robbie stated is wrong. His goal tally in a lesser league speaks for itself in that league. Just because players have scored a truckload of goals in one league, doesn't mean they will replicate that in the Premier League and if we were to buy him and he didn't score in his first game, second game, third game, people would be calling for his head and saying it was a terrible piece of business and another flop. Signings like this are always risky and maybe BR sees it as being a bit too risky, or maybe, just maybe, he isn't the type of player that suits our style
ReplyDeleteDid you just make up a word? Techinaless? Even if you take into account that this is a mispelling, and it should be technicaless, that is still no known word in the English language or any other language that I know of
ReplyDeleteTo be fair, having multi-millionaires in charge of a club doesn't mean that they can't be not great financially. By no means am I saying Huddersfield are, I'm just making a point that just because a club is owned by multi-millionaires, even if they are lifelong fans of the club, that doesn't mean it's a given that they know how to run a football club, regardless of the league.
ReplyDeleteWhy haven't any club in the Premier League gone for him then? The likes of Stoke or Sunderland or WBA would be a great stepping stone for him if he was that good.
ReplyDeleteWe defenitely need a striker but this guy may not be ready yet to play at the top most level , however 6-8 mln with a track record like that would be a very good business.Just wondering why the other top clubs are not after him .
ReplyDelete@L4forLFC:disqus - As I said, just because Premier League clubs do or don't make a decision, that doesn't then prove that those decisions are correct. And there is a lot of politics behind signings that are/are not made, that we are not privvy to.
ReplyDeleteEven Alex Ferguson bought Bebe for £8m when he'd achieved absolutely nothing in the game. Phil Jones cost £18m for playing for a team that just about avoided relegation. He's chosen to ignore MANY proven quality players that would've improved his team for similar fees. Just because he is a champ, that doesn't mean that he is infallible. Btw I don't actually dislike Heskey - I say he's done well to make so much out of so little. He was a good striker a LONG time ago, before managers somehow came to the conclusion that he could play out wide for club and country, and began this whole ridiculous 'defensive winger' trend. He has since been an extremely poor striker for years, picking up hefty wages from Premier League clubs that significantly better players could only dream of.
Class defenders - Liverpool? Where were you at the weekend?
ReplyDeleteWe will choose our own replacements too, thankyou, so you needn't bother 'throwing' any of your unwanted dross into the deal - Eccleston springs to mind. As arrogant as they come. You've been listening to Ian Ayre too much.
Robbie, what do you know about the finances of HTFC? With all due respect, very little I suspect.
ReplyDeleteTo educate, the owner is a very successful local business man who has invested a lot of his own money into the club not just on the playing side. He was a fan sat in the stands before moving to the board room.
He doesnt need the money and yes, HTFC have blocked moves for him because its not right for the club. Of course every player has their price and if someone was to match their top valuation, if the deal was in the best interest of HTFC and Jordan Rhodes they would consider it.
Personally, I wouldn't begrudge him a move to Liverpool as long as the package was right for the club, but please dont patronise us with comments like you made
thanks
No, he means 8m at the most, that figure might be wrong, but that was what he meant
ReplyDeleteAnd that was dreadful
ReplyDeleteAnd quite a few players who have had a great goal-scoring record in lower leagues haven't made the step up. It will be interesting how he fares if Huddersfield don't go well this year and get relegated, then we will see what mindset he has.
ReplyDeleteI think that's Chirag's point, for 2-3m then we will take him, as Huddersfield won't go for that much, then we don't want him for anything more than that.
ReplyDeleteHe may go on a free, but the wages he is on means his estimated value is close to that region
ReplyDeleteI will go one better, not only 20 premier league scouting departments, but all but one other championship scouting departments as well.
ReplyDeleteyou also think you should manage LFC
ReplyDeleteHe's not overrated, he's not 20m plus, his wages are not above 60k/week, definitely not LFC quality
ReplyDeleteI don't know, you'd have to ask them.
ReplyDeleteAnd I never said that I believed Rhodes was that good, or otherwise anyway, as I've never even watched him play a game.
Whether or not a club chooses to sign a player doesn't prove their quality, or lack thereof though. But that's just my opinion.
Jamie Kanwar, PLEASE just leave your journalist career now. You chat so much shit!
ReplyDeleteno m8 our chairman only supports htfc and sold his company 4 over £350 million pounds you may have seen it on the high street Card Factory so i wouldn't say we was that well off and from going to see htfc over a 100 times in the past 3 seasons i'd say he scores from any where outside the box, from the left to the right from penaltys to headers every type of goal but then again iam sure a liverpool fan will no more than me baring in mind he may have seen huddersfield play 10 times on sky over the past 3 seasons.
ReplyDeleteBe interesting to see how all this pans out...It might be a case that any potential buyers are waiting to see how he does in the championship if he does well his value is only going one way therein lies the gamble as he's unproven at the top level but by the look of things this is well worth taking a chance on now after all we've had our fair share of 20m + flops and if it pays off we get a great deal without over paying.....What's not to like......The other thing that crosses my mind is if we have no interest in him there could be a chance that rodgers already has someone else in mind you never know that could well be adam morgan only time will tell.
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