Prior to the sacking of Kenny Dalglish, Dirk Kuyt made it clear he was unhappy with his lack of first team opportunities at Liverpool. After Dalglish got the red card, the Dutchman did a U-turn, stating that he hoped to stay at Anfield. Now, it seems he's changed his mind again, and given the strongest indication yet that a transfer could be on the cards this summer.
Several times this season, Kuyt has complained publicly about his treatment at Anfield, and in April, he revealed his frustration at being left out of the FA Cup semi-final with Everton:
"It is a disappointment that I did not play (against Everton). I expected to come on, and if that happens, you hope to be the first to come on. But that was not to be".
In an interview earlier today, Kuyt insisted that he had 'not made a decision' on his future yet, but admitted that it's his 'goal to play in the Champions League again'. He added:
"There are lots of clubs that are interested in signing me. I'm aware of Hamburg's interest and I feel flattered. I'm focusing on the national team for now, though. A number of other Bundesliga sides want me as well, but other European clubs are also after me. I have not decided anything yet. My agent knows what I want, and he's doing all the hard work".
Kuyt has been a great servant for Liverpool, but it's disappointing that he's shamelessly touting himself in public like this. What happened to keeping things behind closed doors?
Since arriving at Anfield in 2006, Kuyt has been directly responsible (via goals or assists) for 22% of Liverpool's goals in all competitions. That's a great record, but if he wants to go, then let him go, and the same applies to Martin Skrtel.
Kuyt, and especially Skrtel, are not irreplaceable, so if they're not happy at Liverpool, then sell them to the highest bidder.
Jaimie Kanwar
Several times this season, Kuyt has complained publicly about his treatment at Anfield, and in April, he revealed his frustration at being left out of the FA Cup semi-final with Everton:
"It is a disappointment that I did not play (against Everton). I expected to come on, and if that happens, you hope to be the first to come on. But that was not to be".
In an interview earlier today, Kuyt insisted that he had 'not made a decision' on his future yet, but admitted that it's his 'goal to play in the Champions League again'. He added:
"There are lots of clubs that are interested in signing me. I'm aware of Hamburg's interest and I feel flattered. I'm focusing on the national team for now, though. A number of other Bundesliga sides want me as well, but other European clubs are also after me. I have not decided anything yet. My agent knows what I want, and he's doing all the hard work".
Kuyt has been a great servant for Liverpool, but it's disappointing that he's shamelessly touting himself in public like this. What happened to keeping things behind closed doors?
Since arriving at Anfield in 2006, Kuyt has been directly responsible (via goals or assists) for 22% of Liverpool's goals in all competitions. That's a great record, but if he wants to go, then let him go, and the same applies to Martin Skrtel.
Kuyt, and especially Skrtel, are not irreplaceable, so if they're not happy at Liverpool, then sell them to the highest bidder.
Jaimie Kanwar
It's all very well Kuyt is trying to gain some leverage but the new manager might not even want him. If we can get a good price then sell him to make room for one of the youngsters since as Suso and Sterling.
ReplyDeleteShould be "such" not "since".
ReplyDeleteI don't think Skrtel can be easily replaced! but if they don't want to stay getting less than 20m for Skrtel and 13-14m for Kuyt will be a loss!
ReplyDeleteBetter, but it's still directly contributed via goals or assists :-)
ReplyDeleteI think your valuations of these two players is a bit excessive (unless you are quoting in euros that is). I honestly couldn't see us getting more that £25m for the two.
ReplyDeleteThese are the few remaining continental players from the pre-KD era. Just hope the next manager doesn't turn LFC into those regular EPL mid-table teams made up of mainly English players plus a few foreigners. I can only hope the next LFC manager is Arsene Wenger.
ReplyDeleteIf skrtel leaves I'd go for mussacchio of villarreal. Rather he stated obviously cos he has had his best season for us.
ReplyDeleteI don't agree with that attitude Jamie. Just as you want stability and continuity in management, you want the same with your players, especially your best and most experienced players. You might say Kuyt at 31 wouldn't be a major loss (even though his experience is very important) but Skrtl is in his prime and was by far our best player this season. You do your best to keep players like him.
ReplyDeletemartin skrtel voted the best player of our season and performed the most consistently this season for us, a defender in his prime who developed one of the best defensive partnerships in the league, easily replaceable? kuyt in hes yonder years while squad needs to be bulked up with young talent ya think so!
ReplyDeleteNot my ideal first XI player for Liverpool but he should have played more this season, considering the performances of the other players. But of course, KK seemed to be adamant to persevere with the likes of Hendo and Downing
ReplyDeletei think the price for Kuyt is turkish lira
ReplyDeleteSkrtel has been our best this season and replacing him in that quality will cost us at least 25m. Fergie paid about 17m for Phil Jones (not that proven). He's worth 20m or even more ( not euro ;)
ReplyDeleteI think no one will leave until the new manager joins interviews the players who are talking of leaving and decides himself whether he wants them too or he can do without them. Kuyt wouldnt be a major loss I agree with Jaimie but the new manager may see him only as a squad player. Kuyt wants to start and at 31 his best years are behind him.
ReplyDeletedo you really blame Kuyt? Dalglish treated him with contempt.the likes of Downing Henderson and Adam getting a start before him was disgraceful.As was stated he was involved in 22% of reds goals Downing none, come on do the maths. Kenny had an issue with him and acted badly as he did with a lot of his decisions.Kuyt is 31 he has to do what he can to secure his first team status. I personally would like to thank him for being a great servant and never giving less for the club than 100%. Pity i can't say that about Kennys buys.
ReplyDeleteI don't blame him at all for try get a move, after-all being a bench warmer for Henderson and Downing could not have been easy for him. Especially as they were hardly performing well enough to keep him out. A questionable decision by KK at the time. Saying that, he didn't throw his dummy out the pram but behaved in a professional manner. His heart has always been with LFC and is still a respected Dutch international. I think he will be needed for those trips behind gods back, playing in Europe will require depth in the squad, IMO he is still an asset. However if he is set on leaving I would say thank for your contribution and wish him the best in his next move.
ReplyDeletesorry to burst your bubble but Kuyt has a clause in his contract were he can leave for a minimal fee.I would swap Skirtel for Adam Johnson plus £10 million.
ReplyDelete13-14m for kuyt ? really ?!! if so id take it . more like 3m
ReplyDeletePedram Phil Jones price would have been uplifted because Blackburn were capitilising on Manchester Utd being a competitor in the same league. It's a bit like us paying uplifted prices for Henderson, Downing and Carrol all bought from competitors in the same league. Let's not forget if your going to let your player move to a competitor then your going to want good compensation for that. Hence the reason a lot of clubs go overseas.
ReplyDeleteI like Kuyt a lot he's been a faithful servant, but if he feels he wants to leave, all well and good, I wish him all the best. But he is doing it the wrong way, there's no reason to brag about how many clubs want u.
ReplyDeleteEasily replace Marty, HOW?! Who with? When Agger is fit (&Enrique is awake) we have a solid & effective back four. I'd argue that Marty is key to that (he's rarely injured, playing with confidence & scores the odd goal) so 'letting him go' is madness. Up his contract and keep him - if anyone has to go let it be Agger/Enrique neither has set the wolrd alight (one is regularly injured and the other goes to sleep).
ReplyDeleteKuyt has been brilliant but he is now too old & we need real pace in his position (rw that is) & preferably someone who can hit the net not the crowd (he missed FAR too many chances).
get what we can for kuyt reina and get maxi off the payroll all passed their sell by date and also coates now he is crap. to slow willnever ajust to english game which is about pace . and he is only 21 hes only goin to get slower . no need to even buy him in 1st place martin kelly is a center half and far better player .another 6 million down the drain
ReplyDeleteOne fact that everybody chooses to ignore is that Kuyt got more league starts than Downing this year...
ReplyDeleteMan Utd set to buy Baines for 12m could solve our left back problem, you know who will be available.
ReplyDeleteKuyt is better IMO, than Henderson, Adam and Downing. Adam gives ball away too often, downing (mr no goals no assists) and Henderson (jury is out on him still). The work ethic that comes from Kuyt passed down to youngsters come through is worth more than 3M, I say keep him as a squad player and let him be a good role model to the up and coming stars.
ReplyDeleteAs for Skrtel, he formed one of the best defensive partnerships in the EPL. Who was better than Skrtel at Liverpool, was it Carragher, Agger, Coates or none of them....
BTW, Henserdon is not a right side player.. Why KD bought 3 central midfield players when he already had Cole, Maxi, Gerrard and Lucas is beyond me....
Kuyt and Skrtel should stfu tbh, if they want to leave then just leave....simple as, don't appreciate all the public comments just add's to our unsettlement.....
ReplyDeleteToo many players seem to want to unsettle us before they finally do one, Masch did it, Reina's been threatening to do it, Torres just sulked....and appears to still be sulking elsewhere....
I mean FFS why do we have all these players who want to underperform half of the time and then demand CL football etc....?
IF we get AVB or Martinez i can see other players who will want out also, adding to our unsettlement further...., just pisses me off tbh, this is why i think this managerial "decision" is taking so long......
Who could blame any player for wanting to leave.
ReplyDeleteThe club is in a downward spiral from which they might not recover
for many seasons.
Suarez must be an absolute certainty not to be there for the
start of next season no matter what he says about not having spoken to Real Madrid.
When you consider
some of the stuff he’s gotten up to in the past, lying is
nothing in comparison
Kuyt STARTED 22 league games, Downing STARTED 28 league games.
ReplyDeleteRegardless, Kuyt should have started more and Downing should have started less, in my view..
Kuyt is a very average right sided midfielder at Premier League Level , at best he is a squad man at any club with no more than Europa League ambitions .
ReplyDeleteAs a Centre Forward he is plain awful by comparison to he reserves the clubs who finished above Everton use in the same position .
Kevin Doyle or Stephen Fletcher are better than him & thats not to say either or both are "Fantastic"
Kuyt among many others within that squad is a passenger without a leadership bone in his body & typifies the wishy washy spineless nature of LFC's demise .
Blackburn were United's competitor!!
ReplyDeleteBy the way I'd be more than happy to replace Kuyt with someone at the same level of him but cheaper and younger. But I do believe replacing Skrtel would cost much more than what we can cash in on him
Phil Jones is British so his price is heavily inflated.
ReplyDeletewhat bothers me is that Pool says they investing in young players but Raheem Sterling made a differance every time he came on even if its for a few minutes. So when are we gonna start seeing the younger players having some game time
ReplyDeletePlease go
ReplyDeleteSterling was good when he was younger but now he is too old .
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ReplyDeleteEmile Heskey released by Villa
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Billy Hogan the new Boston based Commercial Director as of today is arranging the preseason tour apparently.
ReplyDeleteLets see what teams we play, Chicago White Sox, LA Dodgers, Texas Rangers.
Ryan Shawcross could replace Skrtel
ReplyDeleteAgreed. There are plenty of defenders in world football who could replace Skrtel. Why is it when any LFC player shows a bit of form they're suddenly irreplaceable? Skrtel has concentration issues, and even this season, he made mistakes that led to important goals being conceded. I hope he does leave, because Liverpool can do a lot better.
ReplyDeleteI SHOULD THINK SO AS WELL !!!
ReplyDeleteSkrtel is no way irreplaceable and no way would replacing him cost 25 million, as someone has suggested above, particularly as we already have Coates in the squad. If we are keeping Carragher for yet another season as back up, promote Coates to play alongside Agger. Sell Skrtel if he wants to leave. Use the funds for a playmaker or striker. Playing Suarez and Carroll up with Bellamy, and three in midfield, we have Flanagan and Johnson, Kelly can move inside when needed, Johnson and Robinson can cover Enrique. Not to mention Wilson can cover Agger, Coates and Carragher, as well as Kelly. If they can get 20 million for Kuyt and Skrtel, and something similar for Reina, buy Robinson from Blackburn, bring in Hoillet, another playmaker and sign a striker. Sorry we missed out on Rhodes. While our owners mess around, everyone is contacting their targets.
ReplyDeleteWell Said Ricky,
ReplyDeleteShe Bangs, She, Bangs,
I think one of the reasons Blackburn went down was Robinson. If you look back at their goals conceded many are due to his failure to hold shots and crosses and pushing the ball into the danger area in the 6 yard box leaving a striker to just prod it in. I know a Blackburn season ticket holder and they actually prefer the back up keeper that played at Anfield, think he was called Bunn.
ReplyDeleteAfter Flanagans performance against Blackburn, I would imagine Kelly to be light years ahead of him in the pecking order and he has now been called into the England squad as cover on Saturday.
Hoilet yes I agree you can get him for a song, he was the legs for Yakubu and made alot of his goals.
Wilson was a flop and should go back to Scotland.
Jury is out on Coates not sure if he has what it takes at EPL level.
Reina's value will be far less than 20m, dodgy season and not getting younger.
She does indeed LOL
ReplyDeleteor even gary coldwel
ReplyDeleteI agree to a point Paul - but if Skrtl handed in his transfer request as rumoured, then I would be inclined to let him go at the right price - as he's coming into his prime we could get a good amount of money for him. At least he handed in his request long before the transfer window closes so we can take our time and buy the right replacement (unlike the Alonso and Torres transfers).
ReplyDeletevery good Brehon,
ReplyDeleteI have to agree, kids these days grow up quick
Yes he is all of 17 or 18 isnt he.
ReplyDeletebit of a stud muffin as well isnt he, lock up your daughters when he is about.
For all the 'contempt' that he was treated with, Kuyt did start more games than Downing (and Adam obviously, but different situations there). Just throwing it out there...
ReplyDeletelol I remember last year when our fans were going on about Shawcross and Roger Johnson (and one other guy from Birmingham whose name I can't recall)
ReplyDeleteI don't rate Skrtel as highly as most, but he is still a damned sight better than any of those guys!
whoops - if I got that wrong, then I apologise. For some reason I thought Downing only started half our league games.
ReplyDeleteRegardless, 22 league starts is plenty of opportunity to prove your worth and Kuyt didn't make it illogical to drop him. In fact I'd still say that he was given more opportunities than his performances warranted.
Bellamy and Maxi on the other hand...
I'd rather see Kelly and Wisdom get gametime at centre-back than waste any further time with Carragher.
ReplyDeleteWe have this upcoming season to stabilize and embed a new style of play, then next season need to be ready to kick on. There's no point in wasting any more time with players that aren't going to be part of that future in my opinion, especially if they're only marginally better (and much better paid) than a younger counterpart right now
skrtel has had a decent season but how long has it taken him to find that form? and it's not as if he has had a flawless season.i think agger is the only player in our defence that would be extremely difficult to replace.
ReplyDeleteswap him for adam johnson? as if city would agree to that.
ReplyDeletepass me the joint when you're done with it.
being dropped in place of henderson must have been hard to take.
ReplyDeleteand being dropped for both cup finals must have helped him make his mind up especially after hendersons disatrous performance against cardiff.i'd like to have seen kuyt get more of a chance playing with suarez as they seem to link up well,alot better than suarez and caroll anyway.
wouldn't touch paul robinson.i'd rather reina with one hand over him.
ReplyDeletedoyle isn't better than kuyt.
ReplyDeletei've watched him numerous times in the flesh for ireland,he's our emile heskey.gets picked because he's strong,poor in front of goal.
shane long is a far superior player.great touch,good in the air and has pace.
The idiot gave the Sun an interview. Unbelieveable
ReplyDeleteWow there are some very strange and misplaced comments here aren't there...I mean why on earth are folks believing what they read in the media, ffs have you not learn't yet that the press spout utter garbage, Players want to play football, who on earth would be happy left on the bench, players need to play. I don't see a problem with players complaining that they don't get playing time, shows their desire, in fact I'd be more worried if they didn't complain. On a side note for all those fans saying Kuyt is past his best and crap, just think of the goals he has scored, important goals too, but then I guess the ones slating his performances stayed in their seats when he slotted 3 past manure or the goal against Cardiff in the Carling Cup final, he certainly isn't a prolific striker, but then he has very rarely played a strikers role has he, he has been deployed as a winger. He's a good professional with a great work ethic and worthy of another season.
ReplyDeleteSkrtel has had his best season so far, why sell him, because we suddenly believe what the newspapers tell us we should believe, wow LFC fans above all others should not believe one utter word the media have to say unless it is from the club press itself.
If we sell every player that has just had a good season (our best Player) then tell me where the future lies, give a youngster a chance who turns out to be good, then just because he's good we should sell him, what kind of strategy is that. Lucas should serve as a reminder to those with no faith how players form can change, he is now an asset to the team, lots of humble pie to eat for all the fans that openly slated him....
Long is also a better forward than Kuyt as is Robbie Keane .
ReplyDeleteI'm not suggesting LFC should sign Fletcher , Doyle or Long I simply stating that any of the 3 of them are a higher caliber of forward than Kuyt is at Premier League Level .
At international level Kuyt playes among some very good players at a more tactical slower pace & therefore may be a slightly better international level player than those I have compared him to but all in all lets keep it real ...
a 31 year old highly experienced Dutch international Striker should be topping the scoring charts no matter which league he plays in , not plodding along like a clueless donkey on the right hand side of midfield failing to outperform a recently signed 20 year old kid .
The guy like Maxi & Lucas is a passenger , a squad man who done absolutely nothing for LFC before Dalglish took over .
I agree .
ReplyDeleteIf LFC wish to remain a non competitive mid table side which they clearly do seeing as they sacked the only manager to win anything for them after 6 years then it is absolutely vital we keep hold of medicore players like Kuyt , Maxi & Aurelio & develop more medicore players like Lucas in the 1'st team .
Because if the 6 years before that trophy magnet Dalglish proved anything it is that if you try to do everything on the cheap , buy average & inexperienced players then you will win nothing & slowly but surely slide down the table .
Sack The Board !
Apology accepted, as Sky Sports stats also agrees with ESPN's on the league starts.
ReplyDeleteMy implied point was that Kuyt should have started more than likes of Downing. Like I said, Kuyt isn't my kind of first XI player but rather have him starting games, instead of Downing. So in relation to my point, it wasn't a matter of whether Kuyt was good enough to not be dropped as you are going on about, it was a matter that, in my view, that he should have started more games than the likes of Downing and Hendo. So your reply point doesn't really fit in with the context of my point, thus futile I'm afraid.
i'd tend to agree with you.
ReplyDeletekuyt was bought as a striker and his goal return season after season just hasn't been good enough.
people can throw out the 'hard working' cliches but he simply isn't good enough or consistent enough for where lfc want to be.
Ah Jesus he's only using common sense. The club's in a shite state and he owes us nothing so he wants to get out and play some football at the end of his career.
ReplyDeleteI'd suggest that you should perhaps be a little less blasé about Skrtel though. You'll miss him if he goes and he was one of the very few things right with this season.
hopefully we overspend this summer and build a side capable of retaining the carling cup.
ReplyDeleteOver spend how ?
ReplyDeleteDalglish's Net Spend was around £30 million .
The Carling Cup = European Football & trophy winning experience for Suarez , Carroll , Adam , Spearing , Enrique , Coates , Henderson , Shelvey all of whom were under 25 .
Who spent less & won more than Dalglish this season ?
Dont forget both Hodgson & Dalglish were using squads with 6 less senior professionals than than the premier league permits & at least 4 less senior professionals than all the clubs that finished in the top 6 .
LFC are cheap skates ripping off the clueless fans like you .
Yer old granny would be hard working for the kinda contract Kuyt is on .
ReplyDeleteYes, winning the Carling Cup on penalties against third rate opposition after spending 110m+ was an astounding achievement. I can't understand why the club didn't stage a open-top bus victory parade around Liverpool.
ReplyDelete* 14 league defeats
ReplyDelete* Failure to win 64% league games
* Relegation form from January onwards
* 8th place finish 37 points off the top and 17 points off 4th
* Worst league form since 1954
* Worse league record than Graeme Souness in his first full season
* 30 points dropped at home
* 110m+ wasted on creatively bereft dross
And the list goes on. Dalglish's net spend is irrelevant. He failed miserably in the league, and he needed to go.
have you seen the big fat hoop on robinson. cant get his arse off the ground.sell reina . give doni a chance or sign ben foster
ReplyDeleteLoL @ Relegation from January onwards & the rest of your Pseudo facts .
ReplyDeleteFact is that after 1 season in charge Dalglish's Liverpool won a trophy & finished only 1 place lower than Benitez's Liverpool did after 6 years in charge .
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It isnt like he dropped them from 2'nd to 7'th , he inherited a mid table side that hadnt won so much as an arguement in 6 years & improved them .
LFC is a disgrace .
20million on downing.
ReplyDeletethat's over spending on absolute muck.
Pseudo fact? It is an irrefutable fact, actually. From January until May, Liverpool's form was relegation standard. If you did a mock-up of the league table fro Jan till May it would look like this:
ReplyDelete17: Liverpool - 18pts
18: Blackburn - 17pts
19: Aston Villa - 15pts
20: Wolves - 8pts
That is relegation form, and the fact that teams like Bolton, Blackburn, West Brom and Stoke achieved more points in the second half of the season is an embarrassment.
No one cares about the poxy, meaningless Carling Cup. And it's not like Liverpool won it in glory; we had to beat Cardiff on PENALTIES; that removes whatever glory there was in winning the trophy.
No manager in the history of LFC has had as much money in such a short space of time spend than Dalglish, and he totally wasted it on some of the worst players (value-wise) to ever to wear the LFC shirt
What £110 million did he spend ?
ReplyDeleteHe replaced Torres & Babel with Suarez & Carroll .
He replaced Merileis with Adam .
Replaced Jovanovich with Downing .
Replaced Poulsen with Henderson .
Replaced Cole with Bellars
Replaced Kyrgiakos with Coates
Replaced Koncheskey with Enrique
So all in all you can only possibly criticize him for signing Doni !
What planet do people live on that they expect him to do all that for free ?
Charlie Adam led the club in assists this season & Enrique & Henderson also lead the club in other stats including crosses delivered & miles covered , Suarez topped a few stats too like shots on target not to mention scoring 17 goals !
Clearly Dalglishs signings werent the problem if the stats are to be believed , it was the players he inherited , the proven trophyless failures who had already got 2 managers before him sacked .
Dalglish didnt spend a penny on additions to the squad , he merely replaced the worst of what he inherited & nothing more at a net cost of around £25 million .
He inherited a squad only big enough to be mid table , he improved its quality but not its depth , won a cup , returned it to European Competition after a years absence & finished in mid table with a squad only big enough to finish in mid table as was already proven the 2 seasons before hand !
But regardless of the cost the money had to be spent to replace the players he did because we were 4'th from bottom when he took over !
The club is being run by Yank clowns which is why more & more high profile managers are declaring their non interest in the job .
Phil Jones is young and has massive potential, hence the price. It's the same for any player who, at a elatively early stage in his career, demonstrates he can compete at the highest level. It's exactly the same across European & World Football. Will is correct in saying that an additional premium would have been applied by Blackburn for selling to another English club, but they also capitalised on the fact the we were also more than interested....
ReplyDeleteRyan Shawcross is NOT at the level we require tactically. Yes, he can defend in a bank of 4 (or 8 - 9 depending upon who Stoke are playing) but he would not, IMO, be capable of adapting to the "more technical" formations likely to be employed by AVB / RM....he's a no-nonsense defender and not much more.
ReplyDeleteThe facts about KK do speak for themselves but I for one do care that we have added another trophy to the cabinet and although some do not rate the CC it is one of only three domestic trophy's. That it has been devalued for obvious reasons is sad IMO.
ReplyDeleteWhat league do you get relegated from in January ?
ReplyDeleteOr for that matter between January & May in which over the same time span they played in 2 cup finals & secured a return to European Football after a years absence ?
As for nobody caring about winning trophys that maybe nobody you know but the ticket sales along with the merchandise sales for both finals along with our global viewing figures tell a complete different story .
As for not winning it n glory try telling Chelski that winning on penalty’s isnt glorious !
Fact is we had to work damn hard for our success this season & that doesnt suit your own delusion , winning by honest hard work & determination is as glorious if not more so than merely turning up against a weak club who the occasion got to .
Congratulations to Cardiff on a fine stubborn display .
You appear to be forgeting that Dalglish inherited a team 4'th from bottom in the league .
He spent no more than what was required to remove the club from relegation trouble & restore it to trophy winning ways in the shortest possible time .
Like I said to you already you appear to be living in some time warp & imagine LFC to be a title contending side consistently finishing in the top 2 .
LFC is a top 10 club & those stats from this past 3 years dont lie unlike your monthly form guide you would like us to believe are definitive "Facts" an not mere selectively chosen statistics .
You obviously didnt watch any games .
ReplyDeleteDowning was one of our most consistent & reliable performers all season especially in the big games .
I acknowledge his personal glory could have been better but in no way did he have a bad FIRST SEASON .
i obviously watched alot of games and was at a few home games aswell.
ReplyDeleteif you think downing had even half a decent season then you are deluded.he had a DREADFUL FIRST SEASON and i reckon most fans hope he doesn;t have a second season.
he's a dreadfully average player.
I couldn't agree more. Kenny has shown a lot of disrespect to some of the old hands that have played a major role in liverpool success in previous seasons. There is no need why people like Henderson , Downing, and Adams were starting when you had Maxi Rodriguez scoring goals from the bench, and Kuyt actively playing a role in the build ups to the goals but these players where considered to be too old so they were not used as much. We even saw Carragher benched (which I have no problem with). It would seem that Kenny had a problem starting any veteran player other than our captain and the goalkeeper. In fact he almost didn't allow any of our keepers to get a game until Reina got himself into foul trouble.
ReplyDeleteConsistent and reliable?
ReplyDelete* No goals and no assists in the league
* 20% crossing accuracy
* 0% conversion rate
* Only 39% of total shots on target
* 9th worst in the squad for misplaced passes
Stats: OPTA
Is that what you mean by consistent and reliable?
Can you provide any objective facts that illustrated his consistency, reliability, or impact on the team? Thanks.
I disagree that tha facts about Kenny speak for themselves, I think they need to be pointed out over & over again because if they did speak for themselves he woulda recieved a bonus & a contract extension at the end of the season & not the sack .
ReplyDeleteHe said she said .
ReplyDeleteThis is irrelevant net-spend argument dressed up in excuses yet again, so I'm not going to waste my time. I'll just say this: in the club accounts, when stating how much money had been spent on transfers in the last 18 months, the report - compiled by FSG - did not focus on net spend; it stated categorically that '131m had been spent on transfers'., which shows you how *they* view Dalglish's spending.
ReplyDeleteYou obviously didn't go to Specsavers before going to the matches !!
ReplyDelete* Liverpool's form between january and May is the reason for this season's abject failure to get anywhere near the top four. Given the fact that was the season's stated goal, how the club performed in that time period is obviously important.
ReplyDelete* The accounts show a massive loss over the last year, and the club is not going to make up that loss by winning the Carling Cup. Prize money for that competition is 100K; lunp everything together (ticket sales etc) and the club will struggle to clear 300K for winning a cup Dalglish spent 110m to acquire.
* Chelsea won the Champions League, a trophy that actually means something, and they beat one of Europe's top clubs to do it. Winning it on penalties is different to beating Championship fodder on penalties in the massively inferior Carling Cup.
* Please don't make stuff up: When Dalglish took over, Liverpool were 12th, not 4th from bottom.
* Please copy and paste the text where I said Liverpool were a 'title contending team' - that's utter nonsense, and I've never argued anything of the sort. I've maintained since Dalglish took over that challenging for the top four should be the club's target. Dalglish failed miserably on that front.
* The facts I've presented *are* definitive facts, and they don't cease to be just because you don't like what they show.
are you marina dalglish?
ReplyDeleteI believe KK could have been given another season, I think we were only a prolific striker away from a top four finish. However when we had the chance to address this in January he opted to keep faith with the players we had. If for instance Cisse came to us instead of the Toon we would have made it. you live and die by the decisions you make and if it was anyone other than KK I would have wanted him out for not acting on what was obvious to see and getting us back in the top four unfortunately I think we will be paying for this for a long time.
ReplyDeleteIt's good to have you back, Brehon :-)
ReplyDeleteLook at his pass completion rate , distance covered , tackles won , challenges made .
ReplyDeleteThey are his personal stats but the only two stats that matter are that outside the top 2 no club created more chances than us & no club conceded less goals than us .
Downings tactical excellence , leadership , consistency & reliability played a very large part in that dynamic & those vital statistics .
how about John Ruddy
ReplyDeleteMartin Kelly is a centre back and would do a great job there, so if Skytl leaves get a good price and have a ready made centre back waiting, use the money for a good winger or striker.
ReplyDeleteAhhhh !
ReplyDeleteSo its opinion you are stating & not fact .
See I didnt realize you were just putting forward *Their* point of View , I thought you were talking about actual quantifiable Income V Expenditure which was less than £30 since they have taken over .
Cheapskate Yanks .
Even at that tho I dont see how the net spend can be called irrelevant when the net spend is the figure that remains after all the expenses have been calculated & then subtracted from the income , or in other words your take home pay !
Yer Gross income means nothing when it comes to your spending power which will become very clear when UEFA's Financial Fair Play rules come into play & Germanys clubs start to flex their muscle while the likes of City & Chelski will dwindle & fade away .
Pass completion rate/distance covered etc are totally irrelevant. What is Downing's job in the team? is it to run further than anyone else? Is it to put in the most tackles? Did the club spend 20m on him so that he could win 'distance covered' every game?
ReplyDeleteDowning's job is to create and score goals, and on that front, he has failed miserably.
Additionally, despite Downing' so-called 'tactical excellence', Liverpool regressed in the league, and had the worst league form since 1954.
Please give a couple of specific examples of Downing's alleged 'leadership' skills.
It is important to invest in top players as buying a good quality player in the long term saves the money that we would spend
ReplyDeleteto replace the poor player we bought instead.
No, it is fact. Just because FSG state a fact in written form doesn't make it opinion. And that 131m figure is also stated in profit/loss section for transfers.
ReplyDeleteWhether you or I think gross spend is important is irrelevant - FSG specifically highlighted the gross spend figure in the club's annual report to shareholders, so *they* think it's important, which is part of the reason why Dalglish is no longer the manager.
What regression in the League are you talking about ?
ReplyDeleteLiverpool were 4'th from bottom when Kenny took over half a season after they had finished 7th !
So we "Regressed" to 8'th did we ?
So you are saying no LFC team since Shankly finished one place lower than the season before after a new manager took over while getting to 2 cup finals & winning one of them ?
You are confusing statistics with facts Jamie .
At worst we "Regressed" only 2 minor league places in the space of 1 season but to balance that we won a cup & returned o European Competition after a years absence as well as creating the 3'highest about of chances in the league while conceding the 3'rd least amount of goals !
Clearly you are clutching at straws in a desperate attempt to justify the shameful way the club has behaved .
As for Downing , he was signed to improve the quality of the squad which he unquestionably did do hence the lack of a relegation battle last season compared to the season before he joined !
You are now clearly stating that its a fact that FSG spent £131 million on transfers & didnt receive a single penny from players sold or from fees received from loaning players out & everybody knows that simply is not true .
ReplyDeleteFSG has received over £60 million from selling Meireles & Torres alone !
How being lied to can be called irrelevant is beyond my comprehension so instead of allowing my intelligence to continually be insulted I am going to stop commenting upon FSG's lies about their income & expenditure .
No, you are misrepresenting what I said, deliberately. It doesn't matter what way you try and muddy the issue, 131m of LFC's money has passed from the club to other clubs over the last 18 months. Money has been recouped, yes, but that does not change the fact that other clubs have received 131m from LFC for the services of players.
ReplyDeleteThe net spend argument is imbecilic, or are you suggesting that Liverpool spent only 3m on Suarez and Carroll? If you follow the net spend argument to it's natural conclusion, that's the precisely what you must be suggesting.
Brehon - with respect, you are deliberately twisted facts, so what's the point debating with you? w
ReplyDelete* You persist with the false claim that Liverpool were '4th from bottom' when Dalglish took over. That is a blatant fabrication - the club was 12 in the league when Hodgson left, which is NOT 4th from bottom.
* At the end of 2010-11 season, Liverpool were sixth. One year later, the club 8th, and further behind the top 4 than the previous year; that is regression. It is a fact, and it is indisputable. Where Liverpool were when Dalglish took over is irrelevant.
* You continue to avoid the issue re Downing; You said he has good leadership skills - please provide examples to prove this.
Thats it in a nutshell jaime - we must be one of the worst fanbase's for overestimating our own players - Skirtel is not irreplaceable however much he feels he may be , Kuyts been a great servant for the club - a real battler , but he's been slipping a lot the last few seasons and touting himself like this may come back to haunt him if he's not as in demand as his agent has led him to believe.
ReplyDeleteSell them both and move on - we need players who are 100% commited to LFC - not to thier agents exagerated opinions of them.
when Utd were winning the CC - many LFC fans called it the mickey mouse cup , sometimes our double standards and hypocrisy are astounding - does the CC make up for a league campaign worse than any in living memory ?
ReplyDeleteNot even a CC every week would be enough .
Congratulations , looks like you've bought fully into the new LFC brand of mediocrity - that you see Downing as having had an excellent 1st season is symptomatic of the conditioning you have undergone this summer but fear not - we will one day be back among the Gods and a strong title challenge will de-programme you from the strong delusion you currently labour under .
ReplyDeletein what part of the explanation does it say that downing had an exceelent first season if i have read correctly it says that he ha ''positively contributed'' to LFC's season
ReplyDeleteUnlike you I have experienced a few title winning seasons
ReplyDeleteIts obvious to me that your idea of sucess stems from experiencing Benitez's "Nearly Men"
Fact is you wouldnt know what structured systematic progress looks like if it jumped up & bit you on the ass .
Worst case scenario is Dalglish consolidated our League position but gave em the experience of chasing two trophys in a single season while winning one of them & securing a return to European Football .
He blooded a large amount of very talented players under 25 & set us up beautifully for an attempt at winning the Europa & finishing in next seasons Champions League places if not making a genuine season long Title Challenge which in itself would have been a dry run or dress rehearsal for an all out assault upon the Champions League & or The Premier League in season 3 .
This isnt my first day out of School & nor is it Dalglish's 1'st time building a title winning trophy hunting squad .
I have to say it was going like clockwork It was coming along very similarly to how he built Blackburn & how he rebuilt his own Double winning side after it ended 87 trophyless until the Yanks pulled the rug out from under everyones feet .
Without doubt sacking Dalglish has set us back between 5 & 7 years at a conservetive estimate .
It was beyond stupidity , it was simply disgraceful .
how do you describe maxi and lucas as mediocore ??? fair enough maxi might be a bit past his prime but honestly he provides goals when we need them and has got by far one of the better goals per game ratio at liverpool and a t lucas... when lucas got injured our team fell big time because we did not have a backbone someone who could hold the ball and pass it about in midfield.
ReplyDeleteLook I'm not going to try to persuade you so take this or leave it as you see fit .
ReplyDeleteMaxi is a clever 2 touch pass n move player but so is Kuyt .
Maxi is very sneaky at how he times his runs & into what areas , David Platt & Bryan Robson had similar skill & when he gets it right he can put em away but you need to have 10 men playing well for Maxi to perform otherwise his temperament gets the better of him or he simply goes missing . When the chips are down who is Henderson Spearing Kelly Shelvey supposed to turn to if not experienced players , Maxi is a passenger .
Lucas has developed into a decent squad man but he isnt even as good a player as Spearing is & I bet if you compare their tackles made , tackle won & pass completion stats I would be proved correct .
Lucas is a bread n butter player but no more than a decent squad man but needs a Gerard or Adam beside him to pull the strings & provide leadership .
Our side fell apart when Gerard returned not when Lucas got injured .
Before that Adam was leading us from Midfield respectfully , not spectacularly but it was in football terms only his first day on the job , both him & Downing provided us with excellent leadership all season especially when Carra & Gerrard werent around which is why I think Spearing flourished this season .
Its about leadership now not about being fancy , time enough to get fancy once the trophy cabinet is full again , but now that Kenny is gone you may forget about trophys & start thinking about "Top 4" like its something other than a consolation prize .
Why is it that every time I hear the words A.V.B, I think of ThunderBirds......F.A.B.........
ReplyDeletePS Ryan Shawcross could replace Skrtle, (and what happened to the i ) no prob specially with our Danny next to him
If anyone in world football football wishes to assess skrtle,
Read JK's assessment of him with the key words...concentration issues, and more importantly LFC could do Betterr.
Here is an Interesting one imagine a 25 mile an hour 50 50 tackle between them.
And lets be Honest Ladies and Gents it might also help our race relations as the kipper on him, he does look like a bad Nazi, or the first Dracular Nosferatu.
And you know this because.....?
ReplyDeleteI wonder whether it's haze or cheese, hmm
ReplyDeleteIts important to buy in proven quality while its in its prime , I agree but only once you have the solid foundations of a strong squad in place .
ReplyDeleteFor me we have space & the resources to have added 4 quality players in January & if we did they would have been ready for regular 1'st team action by the time the new season kicks off , from there we could have added a few of Euro 12 top players & replaced a few of our long term losers & proven failures on a one in = one out basis without putting any new signings under instant pressure to perform .
It looks like the board refused to spend seeing as Comolli got sacked but Kenny coulda have said "Look we are safe from relegation & unlikely to get Champions League Qualification so lets use the players we have got & target European Qualification through the cups .
Not because he had a burning ambition to win another League or FA Cup but to give a young & newly assembled squad the experience which in turn woulda left us stronger next season under Kenny .
Buying in average foreigners because its fashionable gets us nowhere .
You need to mix soldiers with artists for example mix Carroll with Suarez , Lucas with Adam & you have gotta mix youth with experience . like Carra with Coates .
Buying in top class proven quality players to an already trophy winning squad increases the players hunger & creates competition within the squad for places .
Pad the squad out with lots of average journeymen like wat Benitez done & you create apathy & eventual mutiny .
Dalglish had us well on our way .
I'm dreading next season without him in charge .
Martinez in...I like him, were not going to be a cl team anytime soon!! But Martinez can bring back style to our play and don't forget since jan 2012 liverpool are 19th in the league
ReplyDeleteDowning and Adam are the two worst signings out of the 4 !! Carroll and hendo atleast showed signs if improvement !!! What was kenny thinking???
ReplyDelete@ Wilson ..
ReplyDeleteTo say our league was the worst in living memory is ridiculous .
Under Benitex we dropped from 2' to 7'th & didnt win a thing ... that was bloody awful on a par with the drop we suffered under Souness which is the worst in living memory !
Under Dalglish we dropped from 6'th to 8'th which is hardly earth shattering but if you acknowledge that we got to 2 cup finals & won the League Cup & secured a return to Europe after a years absence then anyone & anyone without a hidden agenda will acknowledge it as a progressive season using a new team if not a new squad .
Did you just say what I thought you said at the end ?, Arsene Wenger,......Arsene Wenga....ARSENE WENGER tell me your joking right,
ReplyDeleteOk ok ok...I get it your 11yrs of age and its dinnertime in School, yea sorry about that son I've just noticed the time on your post, sorry,...Its me Paul...yea sorry, it was the Xxcell2010 yea I know but how was I supposed to know you were in disguise,
you must be thinking I'm some some sort of Cyber Bully or something, sorry again,...oh and by way Sterling, I will be checking your homework later on.
Clean your room first though and..DEFO..move them magazines...... your ma will go mad if she see's them.
Kids today eh, Don't they grow up quick
You Know the last 9 words of your post Paul, Why ?
ReplyDeleteI like your comment Brehon, couldn't agree more and here we are now trying to cajole the more respected managerial candidates who are all to savvy to even think about touching LFC with a ten foot barge pole and interviewing the like's of Martinez and AVB who will do nothing for this great club other than create an even bigger mess! I believe FSG will rue the day they fired Kenny or maybe they won't because at the end of the day, LFC is nothing more than another vehicle for making money!!!, for them.
ReplyDeleteHodgson is a credible solid manager & he got into relegation difficulty with the core of today’s squad still in place .
ReplyDeleteThe same core who plummeted from 2'nd to 7'th under Benitez then still a credible & solid manager .
Dalglish worked a minor miracle in many many different ways last season & come the end of next season I think a lot of people will rue the day they decided they wanted rid of him .
Forest were too big to go down once .
Leeds were too big to go down even more recently & Is it even 10 years since Man City fell into the 3'rd division ?
Whoever they install unless its yet another reinstall of Dalglish next seasons priority has to be avoiding Relegation trouble .
What comes beyond that will be a bonus .
But I'd expect us to be out of Europe before the new year & out of the League Cup too .
If all goes well possibly chasing 6'th or 7'th .
But that squad has a track record of mutiny .
I cant see any young manager with any ambition & credibility touching it with a barge pole .
Maybe an old school hard headed Van Gaal or Capello will be willing to risk their reputations on it but I cant see either needing the money THAT badly !
For me it has to be Benitez , get him back , watch him fail again & put it to bed once & for all .
I think Rafa will keep us safe from relegation , just about , but I cant see him doing anything else .
Right now I'd settle for staying in the division .
Sell him for 1m then find a replace that cost 7-8m, that's a really good business
ReplyDeleteLADIES AND GENTLEMEN...GET THE AXE OUT AND KOP FOR THAT.
ReplyDeleteIt would be very sad to see Dirk Kuyt leave as he has been a fantastic servant for LFC over the last six years and love him or hate him, This man scored 15 goals for Liverpool last season and I for one couldn't care less if they were all Penalties also this seasons form is purely rustiness for not being played.
I really don't think Dirk (not his agent) was trying to buy leverage, In this matter, I just think he responded to being wounded by the treatment of KD and Clarky in not playing him, and lets be fair folks he had every right to be wounded as since when has Kenny's love child Henderson ( and it's not his fault either ) been a better Footballer than Dirk Kuyt, seriously ! and I think our Good American new owners could Defo see it. As could the world and our important Sponsors. as Even if he would have scored half of his goals this season we would have finished above our Neighbours. which they should be congratulated on as they deserved it because they won there games and we didn't, simple, also not withstanding SG and Lucas there midfield is better than ours and they had a good touch with Jalavic.
Marty Skirtle (see I've even put the I back on his shirt with wonderweb ) can leave if he wishes as I think he would get a job anywhere, he would Defo get a role in the next SAW film with that Kipper, he has the Face only a mother could love.
And Sterling, Make Sure you do your Homework later son, you know what your Ma's like she'll bend my ear as well as yours.
The Lad from Birmingham Jay, his Name was DAN but that was DESPERATE
ReplyDeleteYour Having a Laugh right !
ReplyDeleteNo need for you to Elaborate any Further......I had to read ya post 3 times and then go and lie down in a dark room and I'm still none of the wiser.
ReplyDeleteSometimes if your stuck and need to over elaborate as you have done here, it is easier to summarize and just say for example. There is no way that Downing/Henderson should start before
Kuyt as they are Shite compared to him, which is True.
Also Jay did apologise you know so you should give him a break as you don't want people to think your some sort of cyber bully you know.
I can see the problem you have with the Chan thing above though,( I thought he was You ) so I think you should change yours from original to Jackie, as then everyone will know who you are, a world famous actor/karate expert, you didn't mind the other Day.
Can you break bricks with you hand ?
Kuyt has lost his touch (if he ever had any), it's painful watching him at times. Great servant but I just dont want to see him play at LFC anymore.
ReplyDeleteSkrtle can go if we get a good price for him, hopefully coates can step up next year and we could move kelly into the middle as backup with Carra.
Are you guys for real. 20 mil for Skrtel & 13 mil for Kuyt!. Not a chance, and 25m for both would be more than twice their combined worth. I'm sorry guys but attitudes like this regards a players worth is why Carrol was bought for 36m. Toon bought Cisse (a striker) for 9m, Tiote & Cabaye & Santon all with change from 5mil each
ReplyDeleteHello Jay Lad,
ReplyDeleteYou sound like a good lad to me and if possible we could use your help now and again in the future because every now and then we get this propper weirdo bluenose on who just sits there looking at our posts, He likes to Watch you see, I think they call it Voyeurism or something, anyway he goes by the name of Christmaspast he really is a propper Gobshite though as every now and then he chips in on ya posts to insult ya. I'm seriously not taking the Piss on this one, check out some of my posts from two days ago Honestly, so we need all hands on deck to escort him off the premises through the back doors if you know what I mean.
It could be that he is only about 10 years of age and probably is but unless I'm mistaken there is no law which says that you can not chastise kids if you know what I mean
It wasn't bcuz they were too old...it's buz they were not Brit crap.. wrong passport equals no playing time ...
ReplyDeleteWe overpaid or 2 reasons... 1) Dalglish is a moron.. and 2) the players were Brit crap...and the stupidity of managers that think that Brit crap is worth more than their foreign peers who are much more talented...
ReplyDeleteSkrtl PLUS 10m???? WOW... you WAY overvalue Johnson!! Are you British???
ReplyDeleteso if you not talking abot who is better hw then do you know who should start ahead of who???and let me remind us that we said worst thinds about Lucas when Rafa was adamant abt starting me,regardless his poor performances.jordan nd stewart will come good after all..u'll all see it!
ReplyDeleteRidiculous article format over-use. Liverpool-kop?
ReplyDeleteI'm sorry to inform you of This Brehon, but Ive just conducted a poll on this whole Website, about your views on KD and Especially Downing and I can now give you the final Results
ReplyDeleteYour Views On Kenny Dalglish ( 15 second delay)90% of fans said you were talking shite (the other 10% were his family by the way)Your Views onStuart Downing.
(15 second delay)
95% of the fans said you were talking shite,
the other 5% were undecided (and they were his own family)
Can you smoke on them open top buses JK
ReplyDeleteCorrection, it was one of the main reasons he was sacked, by our very good American new owners.
ReplyDeleteThey also said he was shite.As you probably know JK, I have a few friends in America now, and one of them informs me that Stevie Wonder is a fan of LFC, seriously he is !
And even he said downing was shite ?
Steve Wonder in blind and even he can see that Downing is crap :-)
ReplyDeleteYou Brehon, are a Serious Nutcase, and i have grave concerns for your Mental State, I really do, so with that in mind I am sending a friend of mine round to your house, you will of course know him as you have just been talking to him, his name is Billydeane (Michael Jackson had a big hit with his song) and here is what is going to happen.
ReplyDeleteFirstly, He will S.e..D..a..T.e you, this of course is just to Calm you down and for your own good.
Secondly, he will fit you with a very special little jacket with straps on, nothing to worry about though, as its for your own protection so as you dont hurt yourself.
Thirdly, He will take you away in what may look like an ambulance but its not, it is an old Camper van ( is it one of those old VW Devon's Billy ? ) converted into a Paramedic vehicle, Do you know the area of Warrington by the way Brehon, well thats were you are going, the hospitals name is Winwick, some people call it an asylum but I just think that is an old fashioned loose term
You will of course stay at Winwick for a long time, well at least untill you are feeling better, however you will make plenty of new friends in there as there are a lot patients who have similar views to you, a few of them think the are Kenny Dalglish, you will love it.
Good luck Brehon, and get well soon.
Love and kisses.
FROM THE WHOLE 6 MILLION READERS OF THIS SITE
Billy get the tranquilizers out please ( we will probably need Double Doses for this one ) and bring the white van from round the back we may need to pump the Tyre's up.
ReplyDeleteJK has just given us his that Brehon fella's address,...oh and by the way Billy if Brehon comes on again just ignore him please will yea, talking only encourages him, you know he is not well, lets go
What was that Billy, why do we need to pump the Tyres up,...Sorry yea I should have explained, after reading the shite he wrote I realized that he is a very big big NutCase
ReplyDeleteDamn right , he is tha best player in the world , ever & we should milk his limitless skills & physical talent until we have had every last penny's worth out of him !
ReplyDeleteSpending money ?
Bahhh !
Thats for them clowns that want to win stuff !
Give me average players , average results & mid table with dreams about qualifying for the Champions League & having fook all chance of winning it !
Thats tha way forward !
Forget about keeing Kuyt until its time to give him a testimonial , wat with modern medicine & technology we can keep him until he is a pensioner & save ourselves not just one but many transfer fees !
Boo !!! Kenny Dalglish & his Honest hard working Winning Ways !!! Boo !!!
Long Live John W Henry !
Long Live Cheapism !
Long Live Loserpool !
oh no, kuyt leaving? Thank god for that. He is one of the worst FOOTBALLERS ever to pull on a Liverpool shirt and i've seen Sean Dundee. He can't control a ball, he can't tackle, he can't erm..he just can't. You might aswell cut the head off a chicken and put a kit on it, it'll do the same amount of running but have a better understanding of WHY!!!! two words for kuyt Bye Bye. Take carragher, johnson, downing, spearing, enriquez and adam with you.
ReplyDeleteidiot how can you call Lucas a squad man when his injury most probably cost us 4th spot.do you even know how that football is played with the feet?
ReplyDeleteGo support Blackpool or teach your wife how to sew a cardigan instead of making silly comments.
GET A LIFE!
Why do people keep calling Lucas mediocre?
ReplyDeleteHave you been watching Liverpool games this season or waiting for your wife to give you highlights which include "their shorts dont match their socks?"
Once Lucas got injured and "King" Kenny began relying on spearing it all went down the drain.
You forgot Wigan in the list of clubs who got more points than us this year
ReplyDeleteWhy do people keep calling Lucas mediocre?
ReplyDeleteHave you been watching Liverpool games this season or waiting for your wife to give you highlights which include "their shorts dont match their socks?"
Once Lucas got injured and "King" Kenny began relying on spearing it all went down the drain.
David Blunkett also said Downing seems a good player, his labrador told him, mind you Downing gave him a tin of pedigree chum as a bribe first.
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