Today's game has been horrible, and with 12 minutes to go there's stil time for Spurs to embarrass Liverpool even more with another goal or two. Let's hope that doesn't happen.
The last time Liverpool conceded more than 3 goals in an away game was, ironically, against Spurs at White Hart Lane. As I'm sure many remember, the club lost 4-2 in a League cup game in 2008.
Hopefully, Liverpool will contain the damage. Losing 4-0 is always really tough to take.
EDIT: Oh well, Spurs got the 4th goal. Horrible day.
Jaimie Kanwar
The last time Liverpool conceded more than 3 goals in an away game was, ironically, against Spurs at White Hart Lane. As I'm sure many remember, the club lost 4-2 in a League cup game in 2008.
Hopefully, Liverpool will contain the damage. Losing 4-0 is always really tough to take.
EDIT: Oh well, Spurs got the 4th goal. Horrible day.
Jaimie Kanwar
And history repeats itself. 4-0 is horrible. I just hate that scoreline. 3-0 is bad but it's easier to take; 4-0 is a thrashing.
ReplyDeleteScud...
ReplyDeleteit was 1 nil til we went to 9. as soon as that happened you knew the flooda gates would open. The fact that the media will not reflect this fact and they will just say liverpool got battered and not mention that we where down to 9 men. ah well a few good games to get us back on the wagon to then face utd at anfield, here is hoping we can make ammends.
ReplyDelete... and that's 0-4 after spending over 100 m. grotesque
ReplyDeleteKK must have been out of his mind to play Skrtel at right back against Bale. Plus starting Carol and Henderson meant we only started with 8 decent positions filled (and one of them was a Premier League debutant). 4-0 was on the cards at kick off! The sendings off (or more importantly, the resulting suspensions) were just salt in the wounds.
ReplyDeleteAndy Carroll is a 100% flop! I can't understand why Kenny did put kuyt for Carroll? Taking off Suarez instead! Unbelievable!
ReplyDeleteYes, agreed. We kept Spurs at bay for ages, and shipping goals is kind of inevitable when you're down to 9 men. This defeat will be damaging for confidence - I just hope Kenny doesn't blame it all on the ref. As irritating as the decisions were, they were arguably correct. The ref isn't to blame - the team and the coaching staff is to blame. We can recover from this though - perhaps it's just the kind of wake-up call we need - I think fans were getting a little too carried away...
ReplyDeletecarroll + hendeson £55 million. Only someone out of the game for 20 years would be that stupid
ReplyDeleteWhen one waste's a huge ammount of money, on very average BRITISH players (Adams,Henderson and Carol) you'll only get what you deserve. I have said this many times before and, not because we just got hammered by Spurs, so please will someone tell me, what KD had seen in these *OVERATED and OVERPRICED, players*?, to warrant spending so much money on!!!!!.
ReplyDeleteCompletely agree with your post!
ReplyDeletefair comments... still, a Barcelona team would have done much better if down to 9 men against 10 sprinters. It is all about technique and keeping the ball. unfortunastely, this is well beyond our present expensive "British" team.
ReplyDeleteI have to admit Liverpool were horrible. Dalglish
ReplyDeleteHas done few very very bad signing and he is keep on playing them
like Henderson, Carrol and maybe Adam. He thinks that English players a the best, 100% wrong. Look at Silva, Mata, Aguero, Nasri,and Suares on that matter. What a waste of money. Skrtel right back, you must be joking, and Carrager should go to Italy second division, maybe he would be to slow for them as well. Hope Dalglish gets better players in January.
agree that we have overpaid. KK was out of the game for 20 years, but what about the football director and stats/maths/science/transfers guru by the name of Comolli?
ReplyDeletecunts
ReplyDeletePoor all over the park. I hope this knocks some sense into KD. with Gerrard almost ready this should relegate Adam to the bench. Adam is not good enough he has neither the pace of feet nor pace of thought for the game at this level.
ReplyDeleteHaving said that I don't understand what KD was thinking when he placed Skyrtel against Bale...as well as giving Skyrtel a roasting on the wing I would expect this to badly knock his confidence too. They played very poor today however KD has some answering to do - his team selection, formation, tactics and decision making were pretty shocking.
I have to admit, Dalglish got his tactics and selection completely wrong today.
ReplyDeleteI said earlier that we should have started with Bellamy down the right and playing Skrtel at RB should not be done ever again. He looked worse then a f****** schoolboy player today. I am so miff about this result, did we even play that bad under Hodgson? Sorry, Lucas who, was he even on the pitch today?
I guess we should forget about the top 4 after a performance like that. We can all feel better when our Captian fantastic returns to claim his rightful place in the center of midfield and I hope Adam is his partner when he returns from his ban.
Gutted. But in truth there's been too much noise coming out of the club and the fans. Too much patting on the back from the players and coaching staff, too much criticism from supposedly loyal internet fans. It's led to a strange pressure cooker atmosphere where a campaign isn't launched, more a series of 'massive games', controversial tweets, opportunist bloggers, misinterpreted quotes and dodgy transfer stories than a coherent season. Too much noise. It doesn't feel like Liverpool Football Club anymore.
ReplyDeleteWe got our tactics all wrong today. We played with fear from the very 1st whistle so we deserved what we got. The reason we played so poorly? We chose to defend deep out of fear of the pace of Bale, Defoe and Adebayor. If we have to defend deep because we continue to to accommodate then we will be punished. Our midfield were totally taken out of the game today because we chose to protect our central defenders and defend the 18 yard box. As a result our central midfield were not able to compete in midfield but were instead employed as a second pairing of central defenders to help stop the supply into the spurs strikers.
ReplyDeleteI was always taught as a kid to push up to the half way line when in posession so our offensive players could assert themselves higher up the pitch. How can Carroll be effective when he is never in the box? Our back line never pushed up to the half way line once which meant our 35milion pound striker might as well have been watching the game from an illegal stream.
A direct Jamie Carragher mistake wasn't the cause of any of the goals we conceded today (apart from maybe the fourth). But the way we have to play when we are up against pace is a direct consequence of our misguided loyalty towards our stalwart. A title winning side has two center backs who are comfortable to go one on one with 90% of what the premier league has to offer. Smalling, Ferdinand, Vidic and jones will eat up any striking pair without the constant protection of their midfield and without the incessant need to defend deep. It hurts to say but we need to take a page out the the champions book. The overused line that No one individual is bigger the LFC is now officially farcical.
I had a discussion with a Liverpool Fan after the match, I beleived that was our worst performance since Kenny took over and this season we had played really well up to now.
ReplyDeleteMy friend told me, that we drew at home against a poor sunderland, beat a weak arsenal and a Botlon which is bottom of the league and we all started to think we are going to win the league, Stoke and Spurs where the two games whcih we were going to show what we are made of and we lsot them.
I had nothing to reply to him. any ideas?
He's right. But all we can do is be a fan. Support the team and that's her lot. No level of fan discussion is going to change things. It may get better, it may get worse. But we will support them evermore. I understand the discussions, criticism and all that, but ultimately we have to do our jobs in supporting our team. We can't lose sight of that no matter how tempting it is to criticise ad finitum.
ReplyDeleteI don't think it would have mattered who we played in offensive positions. Our back four never tried to depart the comfort of 18 yard box. LFC are allergic to quick attacks. With the tactics we employed today we behaved like a family GP. We tried to treat the symptoms instead of addressing the cause. Until the cause of our fear of quick attacks is treated we should expect more of the same.
ReplyDeleteGerrard wouldn't have added a yard of pace to our central defenders. We would have still defended deep out of fear of spurs speed and Gerrard as a result would have been ineffective.
ReplyDeletemrburt, how are you doing.
ReplyDeleteIt is a fact that the likes of Saint Benitez left us in the crapper with leaving Dalglish (and old Roy the scapegoat last season) the impossible of building a squad in 8 months capable of delivering to fans expectations. I truly could not give a shit what the pro-benitez have to say. Rafa left us with a squad that won nothing, needed an overhaul and clearly Hodgson suffered the consequences and now the hammer has dropped for Dalglish. I am sure there are some stupid fans calling for his head right now?
Benitez should take a good look at what he has left for us after his 6 year reign. How many of his die hard fans are crawling to his new website begging for him to come back? All of them can go and jump of a bridge including the messiah himself.
We all have to accept that we will not win the league this season and most probably not next season either. Give Dalglish time though I will though.
Commoli's role changed as soon as Kenny took charge. Kenny wanted full control over who comes in which meant commoli wasn't able to fulfill the role he was originally employed to do which was rebuild our squad FOR a head coach. Dalglish signed as a MANAGER and everything changed. Out of all of our players signed only Coates in my opinion was signed directly by Commoli.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1368864/Damien-Comolli-announced-Liverpools-director-football.html
Thanks Deebo
ReplyDeleteyou talk sense. I think Kenny is a fan and will see the faults like we do. hopefully he will see ways to get us better but as fan we got to get behnd our team no matter what.
Thanks Deeboyou talk sense. I think Kenny is a fan and will see the faults like we do. hopefully he will see ways to get us better but as fan we got to get behnd our team no matter what. Read more: http://www.liverpool-kop.com/2011/09/last-time-liverpool-conceded-more-than.html#ixzz1YJt5s7wA
ReplyDeleteRed4life, I'm crying into my dinner. Hope your alright mate.
ReplyDeleteI have no issues with the players that have left. I personally would have signed different players to that of Kenny but its done now. The players we have signed, if used correctly, can be very effective I have no doubt about that. But you know me by know Red4life I just don't feel we can accommodate 1 let alone 2 snail paced central defenders anymore. The game is changing and getting quicker by the week. This is no longer a game for the slow.
@Red4Life.....What the hell you're on about, Benitez for? we have spent over 100mil, on very AVERAGE and OVERPRICED, BRITISH players (Adams, Henderson, Carrol), Benitez would NOT have wasted this huge amount of money on the three above mentioned so called players. Also today's team selection and tactics were a JOKE. So lay the blame on those responsible for TODAY, and stop living in the past!!!.
ReplyDeleteYou are wrong, if we had Bellamy down the right then we would have been able to attack from both sides which would have eased attack after attack on our defence. Where was Henderson actually playing? Redknapp saw what was going on down our right hand side and he asked Bale to oblige. Why were no changes made i.e. moving Carra to RB and turtle to CB? Bale was killing us and Skrtel the turtle culprit made us suffer and we never recovered from there.
ReplyDeleteWinninf formula:
ReplyDeleteGlen Johnson Carra Agger/Coates Enrigue
Dirk Stevie Lucas Downing
Jordan
Suarez
Sorry but nothing to do with Benitez now. Can't keep spewing out the same script. You can't use the club's present issues as a way of provoking division anymore. Even Jamie declared that the last of 'Benitez' deadwood' was removed a couple of weeks back. This is no time for a moratorium on Rafa.
ReplyDeleteYNWA...
ReplyDeleteDo you want me to make up a list of the shit benitez wasted money on over a period of six seasons?
Do you really want me to waste your time in doing that?
Thanks for the clarification and the link.
ReplyDeleteHonestly, I cannot recall Dalglish wanting or receiving full control over transfers (except for a Sun article to this effect) still this may well be the case. Dalglish himself spoke high of his cooperation with Comolli going forward.
Dalglish even praised him for the Jan trasnsfer work: "he did a fantastic job in the January transfer window. Luis was coming in anyway but to get Andy in at the last minute was a great piece of business." With the blessing of hindsight, seems like it is not only Dalglish to be blamed for the transfer failures of the club.
I would not like this thread to turn into a pro-Comolli/anti-Comolli endless argument. My point is that the transfer business has not been up to a high standard and it is not ONLY Dalglish's fault.
Its a bit harsh to blame skrtel. Arguably the best right back in the world in Maicon got mauled by bale. Skrtel had to play out of position because Kenny no longer has confidence in Flanagan or at the very least doesn't want him to go the same way Insua did...downhill very quickly. Flanno's pre-season form was pretty poor and I hope the lad gets it together. The second season of any player is always the hardest.
ReplyDeleteI think I'm right. If the team do not push out as a unit then then we can't get a foothold on the game. Kyle walker and Ekotto would have eaten Bellamy anyway. Them boys are quick!
This is to do with Benitez, he left us with a squad that won shit in 4 seasons then Roy was taken apart for the six months and now Dalglish is being given stick for the players that was bought. SIx years of damage done will not take 1 1/2 years to fix the problem. Dalglish and Comolli have had 8 months with the impossible task of buying players that can push for trophies. Benitez had six seasons and won the CL and FA Cup with majority of Houlliers squad and then built a team that won YOU GUESSED IT... BUGGER ALL. Do you realise the problem that Dalglish has been left?
ReplyDelete@9f87555ab19808fb832ae3389f2a951d ........NO, I'll save you the time.....
ReplyDeleteTOTAL BOUGHT: £229,340,000 TOTAL SOLD: £151,000,000.
TOTAL NET SPEND: £78,340,000.
In 6 years..........6 Years!!!
Did you actuall see what was happening down the right hand side of our midfield? Did we have any pace down the right hand side of our midfield? What would have happened if we had pace down the right hand side of our midfield i.e. Bellamy? Skrtel is not a RB and Carra can play there.
ReplyDeleteWe had nothing down the right side and Spurs destroyed us there. Carra at RB and Bellamy at RW and surely it would have been a totally different story.
Dalglish said,
ReplyDelete“Regarding players, there’s only one person who can decide that, and
that’s the manager. That’s something we need to get our skates on with
to make sure we get the right players.”
Kenny got his wish and in time will be proved right (I hope)
http://www.ourkop.com/2011/05/20/only-dalglish-will-decide-who-liverpool-sign/
What players are we talking about here? Reina? Lucas the Brazilian international midfielder? Glen Johnson the England right back? Dirk Kuyt the Dutch international forward? In the meantime Dalglish signed seven of the players out there today for over £100M and has stated that he is delighted with the rest. The Benitez stuff is irrelevant right now. No one is falling for what you're trying to do. There are real current issues that people want to debate here not the 2009/2010 stats book. At least for this thread lets stay on topic.
ReplyDeletewe have to agree to disagree, as the above statement is in conflict to what Dalglish commented at another press conference and was published at the official site: http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/latest-news/kenny-salutes-comolli-impact
ReplyDelete"We will work together, make decisions together, have discussions together, and we'll sign players and try to push the club onwards and upwards."
even if Comolli were responsible for the negotiations process only, think of the fees paid... enough said on the transfer policy of the club (not ONLY Dalglish) :)
No. No we don't. Because it has nothing to do with what happened today
ReplyDeleteCarra's slower and less mobile than Skrtel, he would have got murdered by Bale. Like I said in pre season Henderson has been bought to play that Ray Houghton role down the right and at 16m we need to play him. If we were going to play deep then we needed two quick forwards. Bellamy probably should have started alongside Suarez at least then we could have turned the spurs backline and give them something to think about.
ReplyDeleteBale in this form however is pretty unplayable. When he's off form he contributes nothing. Unfortunately for us we caught him in the mood.
You are missing the point Deebo, it does not matter how much Dalglish has spent. Fact is that with us winning nothing in Rafa's last 4 years has left Dalglish in a situation where he will be ripped apart if things go wrong. Kenny has not even been back a year and the fans will expect him to deliver the title because he "overpaid for british players" ? Benitez won nothing with his own squad which he put together and left us without silverware for 4 seasons but he will be praised and have the red carpet treatment for brainwashing those who still will lick his feet clean.
ReplyDeleteFantastic isn't it?
Where is the list of players?
ReplyDeleteOver 200mil spent and what did we get?
the sin of manhandling raul meireles is showing!!
ReplyDeleteNicely said, Deebo, but where was this attitude last season when idiots were calling for Roy Hodgson's head after a month in charge? Where was this patience and support when fans were personally and professionally denigrating Hodgson on an hourly basis? I called for fans to support Hodgson repeatedly but I was slapped down every time.
ReplyDeleteIt's fan hypocrisy pure and simple.
spearing is better than charlie on any day. he can only sustitute spearing, not beat him to the Ist XI
ReplyDeletewe will have to agree t disagree :-)
ReplyDeleteThe following quote....
"We will work together, make decisions together, have discussions
together, and we'll sign players and try to push the club onwards and
upwards."
In conjunction with.....
“Regarding players, there’s only one person who can decide that, and
that’s the manager. That’s something we need to get our skates on with
to make sure we get the right players.”
...Says to to me Kenny and Commoli will work together to sign players but the final decision will be Kenny's. "Not only Dalglish" I agree. But the signings are essentially players Kenny has okayed. If Commoli had signed our players he would have bought twice as many players and have a longer term plan as he did with Tottenham and Arsenal that didn't demand instant success. Kenny has signed for immediate impact which brings another type of pressure.
I would put my whole salary on the line before the match to prove that Carra would not have cocked things up the way Skrtel did. Skrtel was in nomans land. He didn't even know which side of the pitch he was playing on. Bellamy on the RW would have allowed us to attack down the right which would not have given Bale the freedom he had as he himself would have had to track back when Bellamy went forward. We lost the match when the first goal went in and when the second goal went in it was good night and both goals were because of our lack of nothing down the right.
ReplyDeleteWe need to face the facts, Skrtel should not have played at RB today, I would even have had the balls to select Robinson our back up LB at RB before even thinking of where I wanted Skrtel to feature.
Hey Jaimie
ReplyDeleteIt just shows how fickle majority of LFC fans are and yet saint benitez gets covered in his soft pink blanket.
Makes me sick.
I'm sorry you are actually getting more tenuous as you go on. What fans expect was actually a precedence set by Dalglish himself. However most fans are expecting 4th place and hoping for a trophy. Quite reasonable for any stage in Liverpool's modern history. Of course it matters how much Dalglish has spent. That's such a strangely abstract statement I don't know where to start. Should we start blaming Hicks and Gillette as well? So what you're saying is that when we tore apart Utd last year credit should have gone to Benitez? I presume not. But £100M later and with Benitez' worst signings gone he should take the blame? Bizarre rationalising brother. Very bizarre.
ReplyDeleteDon't get me wrong, I despise the so-called fans who turn on my hero and my club on the drop of a hat, but at the same time we can't use ridiculously tenuous arguments to defend him and further divide the club. I blame hicks and Gillette for so much of the damage done to my club in the recent past but not even I, as vindictive and petty as I am, would evoke their names as an excuse.
Yes, totally agree. The hold Benitez has over some fans is really quite disturbing.
ReplyDeleteI think we agree in principle, with an agreement to disagree on the nuances :)
ReplyDeleteI just (over)reacted to the thought of "Only someone out of the game for 20 years would be that stupid" to buy Henderson and Caroll for 55m. As it seems to me, at least for the Caroll's transfer and at least for the fees paid, we (as well as the owners) should be thankful to more than 1 person.
Agree with KK's ultimate responsibility as well as your statement that signing for immediate impact has brought about another type of pressure.
My greatest concern is signing players mainly on the basis of stats (Comolli's approach) before we have the very basics in place: i.e., technical ability to play WITH the ball and a decent pace in the team. And how and why we could sign such a non-footballing player (like Caroll) is just beyond me.
Hope I am wrong about him and the other transfers, I really do!
YNWA
And the hammer hits the nail on the head.
ReplyDeleteWe should judge waht Dalglish has spent when the time is right. That is why I said it doesn't matter what he spent. If he ends up spending less than saint benitez and wins trophies with the squad that has been built by Dalglish, then what will pro rafa have to say then.
Excuses still remain the best way to cover up the saint benitez era and I cannot explain how happy I still am with him not having anything to do with the running of LFC today and the future. :)
It was clear that Hodgson was unsuitable for job from the word go. However when he did get in charge he continued to employ a style of football which was totally unsuitable for the club. But worse than that was his incessant verbal diarrhea. His devaluing of the club in order to maintain his pompous media enhanced reputation. His classless baiting of former managers and other world class managers (Rijkaard). His disloyalty in the media to players like Torres and Johnson. His clueless and fawning courting of Alex Ferguson. His disrespectful comments towards fans marching to give him a decent transfer budget. He was a self-serving media enhanced blowhard and we could see that from jump. He did not have the bravery or personal fortitude to take on that job and I don't regret that he found out the hard way that you CANNOT revert The Shankly Spirit just to protect your own reputation for a possible future England job.
ReplyDeleteWith all due respect to our previous managers Kenny is the only recent manager who has had full backing to go out and spend heftily on his FIRST CHOICE options. With great power comes great responsibility or at the very least with regards to Liverpool fans the acknowledgement at where responsibility lies. Kenny has never hid behind anyone and never will but he is nostalgic which could harm him in the future. Kenny signed Rush and Barnes at 35-36 for Newcastle and gave them plenty of games even though they were well past their best. (I'm angling to to mention Carra) If Kenny doesn't knock Carra on the head now then he deserves his fate for not spotting the elephant in the room. I'm still of the opinion that LFC is bigger than the individual unfortunately only Kenny can prove it.
ReplyDeleteGo buy BRITISH at your PERIL...........FACT!!!
ReplyDeleteWell said Deebo
ReplyDeleteSerious I don't care about Benitez. It's a tiresome subject that has been done to death here. It's just that your slight of hand in bringing it up again so you can wind up some gullible internet warriors is sad. Actually considering that you continuously use my club to boost your ego and pontificate to others should anger me but I'm actually just exasperated by the likes of you. You don't hate Benitez. You actually love the fact that he provokes enough feeling that you can use him to wind up people on the internet. That is your victory and it's a hollow one.
ReplyDeleteBringing the issue of Benitez into a debate after such a defeat is irresponsible and in many ways inflammatory. Red4life you should get done for incitement! If I knew what you looked I'd go and check some video footage of the recent riots with the task of spotting you geeing up the crowd :-) What happened to letting the Benitez era slide?
ReplyDeleteBut irrelevant in the scope of this article.
ReplyDeleteWhat can I say, I like pissing people off. mrburt will be able to confirm that :)
ReplyDeleteConfirmed :-)
ReplyDeleteDon't get me wrong, I really would like to see Adams,Henderson,Caroll and even Downing, come good, but I just cannot see it happening....far, far, too slooooow and pedestrian, as for Downing, I don't think that he's a bad player, but the other three mentioned, no-one in their right mind, would have paid over £60million for!!!
ReplyDeleteexactly! and this is what really concerns me. how could the club with all the professionals in place (scouting team, negotiations team, manager, director) have made these signings at the fees paid?!
ReplyDeleteLike you, mate, I would also love to see the expensive British buys prove me all wrong, just cannot see it happening. We need more technical ability (to start with), pace, and imagination but where will it come from?
I think we need more black guys...
ReplyDeletehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gkzlbC7MHgQ&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Thanks mate
ReplyDeleteYes Deebo, anything that exploits the truth about how Rafa has and still is brainwashing millions of liverpool fans is irrelevant. Hail the messiah who can do no wrong.
ReplyDeleteYou confirmed that I like pissing people of did you not?
ReplyDeleteShoot me for trying to open peoples eyes about Rafa, may they forever be deluded until the end of time.
In the scope of this article.
ReplyDelete"Go buy BRITISH at your PERIL"
ReplyDeleteThe above quote can also regrettably be attributed to beef, lamb, dairy, clothes, cars, computers, bikes, vans, tanks and weapons......... Players are simply the tip of the iceberg.
Red4life surely all former Liverpool managers deserve some level of respect, failure or not. You really do sound foolish. Did he harm you personally in some way?
ReplyDeleteHi Ryan
ReplyDeleteI do not have a problem with Rafa as a PERSON, around the dinner table I am sure he is very warm but unfortunately as LFC MANAGER he did not cut it for me and I have always judged him as a MANAGER of LFC. What I cannot understand which is the thing that really gets to me the most, which makes me dislike him as our former MANAGER even more, is the way he still gets the red carpet treatment. It is a fact (whether you want to argue until blue in the face) that Rafa is not allowed to be criticized when it comes to those who bleed for him. If I say that Rafa wasted money then Rafa's soldiers are ready to defend the man by making excuses. Dalglish is having a broom shoved up his crack for "paying over the odds for British players" which one only joined in January this year and the others are still trying to find their feet. That is what grates my ***hole.
Benitez was here for six seasons and left without winning one single trophy in 4 seasons, spent bucket loads of cash in the process and then gets praised for what exactly? Winning the CL followed by the FA Cup with FACT majority of GH's team then gets rid of everyone of those players except Stevie & Carra and builds his own team around them and leaves us in his last season by guaranteeing 4th but ending 7th? What if we did not win the CL in 2005? Fact is that a team that manages to win the the CL should be able to qualify for it, qualification for the 2005/2006 champions league did not happen but we were given grace to take part in 05/06 by the EPL. We are talking FACTS as Rafa would say, and none of the above is a lie unless you want to prove me wrong.
Now ask me again why I have a problem with Benitez as a MANAGER and then read my post again and you will get your answer.
@Red4Life...Did you say that Rafa 'spent bucket loads of cash' ?, actually he spent just over £78mil (net) in 6 years!, KD just paid over £60mil for three VERY average british 'slowmose'.....fact!. KD is still living in the 80's, you just cannot win anything nowadays, with AVERAGE and totally OVERPRICED british, (and i'll say it again) *Sloooowmose*.
ReplyDeleteBenitez spent TOTAL over 230mil over 6 seasons. That is a shit load of cash considering that FSG payed 300mil for LFC. Now I guess you are going to say that FSG underpayed for our club. Go on then...
ReplyDeleteI cannot wait for Dalglish to deliver the EPL Ynwa, that is going to send the Benitez era straight up your backside and Dalglish will win the EPL by spending less than what Benitez did. Mark my words...
ReplyDeleteYnwa, what are you going to do when LFC win the EPL lead by the man called Kenny Dalglish?
Red4Life.............I will mark your words!, cause if KD keeps buying British that's NEVER going to happen. Now YOU mark my words.
ReplyDeleteRed4 Life.......Did I not say £78million NET?, gonand google it, so you'll know!.
ReplyDeleteSo red4life, the only reason you constantly attack Benitez is becasue some fans appreciated him alot. You don't really have your own opinions you jsut go agaisnt the grain and attack what other people defend. How are you different to the people that rightfully defend Benitez. How can you justify your constant defence of Hodgson. My point is that regardless of how much Benitez did or didn't spend, what he did or didn't win he is a former Liverpool manager and deserves respect just like your idol Roy. Benitez may have spent 230M over 6 years but at KD's current rate that figure looks miniscule
ReplyDeleteArebee
ReplyDeleteHow can you say that Rafa deserves respect as a former manager then blatantly you piss all over Roy's head? Oh it is because he was also a former LFC manager. Am I missing something?
As for Roy being my idol, please QUOTE where I have stated that he was my idol. Don't keep on making shit up with not having any evidence to back up your bulls***. Jaimie mentioned in an earlier post that he was calling for support for Hodgson and now the same blinking idiots who were stabbing Roy in the back are now doing the same to Dalglish. Obviously myself and Jaimie were wrong to give support to a manager that lasted six months? Go figure.
You obviously are having fun on Rafa's new website aren't you? I bet he has even left you a little love message?
please point out where I blatantly piss all over roy's head. I said he deserves respect just like Roy. Is Englsh your first language? I am no Rafa fanboy either, i think it was time for him to leave the club when he did and have never visited his website.
ReplyDeleteOne thing, I don't remember Rafa ever publicly insulting LfC players or fans. I remember him defending the club, fans and players till the last. Even people like you
Also red4life. True LFC fans do not reserve the red carpet treatment exclusively for our most succesful managers. That's what sets us apart from the likes of you
You lot are idiots. Suckered into ANOTHER Benitez back and forth by a man who admits that he does it to p!ss you off. What kind of idiots are you? Let it go and deal with the subject at hand. You can't see a wind up merchant when he farts in your face.
ReplyDeletelol Deebo, who are you? this particular article has no real subject matter. I can and i will defend any former LFC manager as much as i want to. Why should i let anything go? You sound like the manure fans who tell me to forget about everything pre the premier league era. You calling everyone idiots (twice) smacks of intellectual insecurity. Deebo please tell me, when is a matter declared closed, and when do we become idiots when speaking about it?
ReplyDeleteArebee, what will you have to talk about when I stop talking about Rafa?
ReplyDeleteMate, surely you should have ignored me by now after all this time yet you constantly come back for more when I have a dig at afaR?
Are you ready for some more?
I actually missed your reply on this one.
ReplyDeleteOne thing that I can say is that when Rafa came to Anfield I got behind him from the start. After 4 seasons I wiped the crap from my eyes and saw that he was taking us nowhere. My anger at him as our manager grew from there but at the end of the day I gave him a chance. I showed support to Roy in his six month spell and I was shot down for that.
So Arebee, what do you make of these so called fans ripping into Kenny 8 months into his return? How many of them were doing the same to Roy but Rafa still remains supreme? Please do not generalise Arebee.
I'm more of a reader than a writer.
ReplyDeleteYou become an idiot when a man clearly admits to being a wind up merchant with only one technique (steering the conversation to a negative attack on Rafa Benitez), winds you up. He literally does it every thread and like lemmings you fall for it. It's been a year and a half since he left and we're still expected to vociferously debate it EVERY article? You're not defending him, you're walking into a trap. It just spoils proper debate now and is tiresome. Red4Life knows this, but as long as idiots like you respond he'll keep regurgitating arguments that many would have agreed to disagree on ages ago.
ReplyDelete"A wise man told me 'don't argue with fools, cos people from a distance can't tell who is who'" - Jay-Z
Lemmings do not fall for tricks or committ mass suicide, do your research idiot. He nver admitted to being a wind up merchant, he said he was when he realsied his arguements were so stupid that that was the best option
ReplyDeleteHaving read every one of Red4Life's posts since he's been on the site, he's definitely not a wind-up merchant. Like me, he just doesn't rate Benitez as much as many other fans, and that causes conflict. Yes, Benitez has left by it is perfectly fine to bring him up regularly - his legacy is very much alive at Anfield.
ReplyDeleteBenitez did some great things for the club, and moved things forward in several important ways. He also had a negative impact in many ways, and the club has suffered - and continues to suffer - as a result.