Liverpool fans continue to blame the club's frustrating 20-year title drought on the usual suspects, including David Moores; Rick Parry; Graeme Souness; Roy Evans; Gerard Houllier; Tom Hicks; George Gillett; Rafa Benitez, and most recently, Roy Hodgson. The truth is, however, that none of them are responsible. The real blame for the club’s abject failure to bring home the trophy Bill Shankly famously called ‘our bread and butter’ lies solely at the feet of one man: former President of South Africa and anti-apartheid activist, Nelson Mandela.
After considering the startling confluence of events that have inexorably led to this conclusion, I feel sure that Liverpool fans will rethink their ingrained views about the club’s demise over the last 20 years. As you will see, Mandela’s negative influence on the club cannot be denied, and I will illustrate this with cold, hard facts:
* In 1959, Bill Shankly took control of a club that was languishing in the English second division. At this time, Mr Mandela was a free man.
* In 1962, Mr Mandela was arrested and imprisoned after being on the run for 17 months. The same year, Liverpool won promotion to the first division.
* In 1964, Mr Mandela was sentenced to life imprisonment. That same year, Liverpool won the league for the first time in 17 years (the number matches the length of time Mr Mandela was on the run).
Coincidence? I think not.
Over the next 27 years, Liverpool became the most successful British football team of all time, winning a whole host of trophies including 12 league titles, 4 European Cups, 4 FA Cups and 2 UEFA cups.
Then:
* In 1990, after 27 years behind bars, Mandela secured a release from prison. Three months later, Liverpool won the league title for the last time.
The facts speak for themselves: Liverpool’s dominance of English football began with Mr Mandela’s imprisonment in 1964 and ended with his release in 1990. At the time of writing, Mandela has been a free man for 20 years, and in that time, Liverpool have failed to win the league title.
Coincidence? Once again, I think not.
Clearly, the club's league success is inextricably linked to Mandela's liberty, and based on the evidence, the inarguable conclusion must be that Liverpool FC can only be successful in the league if Mandela is in prison.
Mandela's destructive influence must be addressed NOW. Desperate times call for desperate measures, and it's our duty as fans to take action and address the damaging impact Mandela's freedom is having on the club's ability to be successful.
To that end, I have hired Lord Grabiner, QC and Richard Snowdon, QC to examine the terms of Mr Mandela’s 1990 release documents. Hopefully, they'll be able to discover some legal loopholes/procedural inconsistencies/Judicial improprieties that will retrospectively invalidate his release.
Liverpool fans can do their part by campaigning for Mandela’s immediate re-imprisonment, and signing this online petition: www.JailMandela.com. Upon collection of as many signatures as possible, the petition will be delivered to Jacob Zuma, the current current South African President, who will (hopefully) take immediate action.
Back in 1990, people around the world - including millions of Liverpool fans - were shouting 'Free Mandela!' as they campaigned for the great man's release. Hindsight is a wonderful thing, though, and little did those fans know that they were effectively sabotaging their own club!
Twenty years later and things have to change change: 'Jail Mandela!' must become every Liverpool fan's mantra, and every premiership ground must reverberate with the power of the Liverpool faithful's commitment to the cause.
The needs of the club outweigh the needs of the individual; with the greatest fans in the world working together in the spirit of 'The Liverpool Way', the goal of having Mr Mandela returned to prison can be achieved, and Liverpool FC can regain its rightful place at the pinnacle of English football.
JAIL MANDELA!!
UPDATE: 17 March 2014: This article is intended as HUMOUR. Look up the word irony in the dictionary. It amazes me that people actually take this as a serious article when it's utterly obvious that it's the complete opposite of that. Also, to all those po-faced idiots on Twitter spewing out faux outrage - check the publication date: I posted this article FOUR YEARS AGO. Seriously, get a sense of humour already.
Jaimie Kanwar
After considering the startling confluence of events that have inexorably led to this conclusion, I feel sure that Liverpool fans will rethink their ingrained views about the club’s demise over the last 20 years. As you will see, Mandela’s negative influence on the club cannot be denied, and I will illustrate this with cold, hard facts:
* In 1959, Bill Shankly took control of a club that was languishing in the English second division. At this time, Mr Mandela was a free man.
* In 1962, Mr Mandela was arrested and imprisoned after being on the run for 17 months. The same year, Liverpool won promotion to the first division.
* In 1964, Mr Mandela was sentenced to life imprisonment. That same year, Liverpool won the league for the first time in 17 years (the number matches the length of time Mr Mandela was on the run).
Coincidence? I think not.
Over the next 27 years, Liverpool became the most successful British football team of all time, winning a whole host of trophies including 12 league titles, 4 European Cups, 4 FA Cups and 2 UEFA cups.
Then:
* In 1990, after 27 years behind bars, Mandela secured a release from prison. Three months later, Liverpool won the league title for the last time.
The facts speak for themselves: Liverpool’s dominance of English football began with Mr Mandela’s imprisonment in 1964 and ended with his release in 1990. At the time of writing, Mandela has been a free man for 20 years, and in that time, Liverpool have failed to win the league title.
Coincidence? Once again, I think not.
Clearly, the club's league success is inextricably linked to Mandela's liberty, and based on the evidence, the inarguable conclusion must be that Liverpool FC can only be successful in the league if Mandela is in prison.
Mandela's destructive influence must be addressed NOW. Desperate times call for desperate measures, and it's our duty as fans to take action and address the damaging impact Mandela's freedom is having on the club's ability to be successful.
To that end, I have hired Lord Grabiner, QC and Richard Snowdon, QC to examine the terms of Mr Mandela’s 1990 release documents. Hopefully, they'll be able to discover some legal loopholes/procedural inconsistencies/Judicial improprieties that will retrospectively invalidate his release.
Liverpool fans can do their part by campaigning for Mandela’s immediate re-imprisonment, and signing this online petition: www.JailMandela.com. Upon collection of as many signatures as possible, the petition will be delivered to Jacob Zuma, the current current South African President, who will (hopefully) take immediate action.
Back in 1990, people around the world - including millions of Liverpool fans - were shouting 'Free Mandela!' as they campaigned for the great man's release. Hindsight is a wonderful thing, though, and little did those fans know that they were effectively sabotaging their own club!
Twenty years later and things have to change change: 'Jail Mandela!' must become every Liverpool fan's mantra, and every premiership ground must reverberate with the power of the Liverpool faithful's commitment to the cause.
The needs of the club outweigh the needs of the individual; with the greatest fans in the world working together in the spirit of 'The Liverpool Way', the goal of having Mr Mandela returned to prison can be achieved, and Liverpool FC can regain its rightful place at the pinnacle of English football.
JAIL MANDELA!!
UPDATE: 17 March 2014: This article is intended as HUMOUR. Look up the word irony in the dictionary. It amazes me that people actually take this as a serious article when it's utterly obvious that it's the complete opposite of that. Also, to all those po-faced idiots on Twitter spewing out faux outrage - check the publication date: I posted this article FOUR YEARS AGO. Seriously, get a sense of humour already.
Jaimie Kanwar
Get a life mate....
ReplyDeleteu are a proper pube
ReplyDeleteThis is about as funny as some of your previous anti-Rafa doctored diatribes.
ReplyDeleteYeah man, jail mandela.
ReplyDeleteSeriously now you reached about the level of those who want to sack RH... This article doesn't help anyone. You'll bore those supporting our manager and our club and you won't convince those who - atm- don't.
This is tragedy, mate, get something else to do on your spare time if you can't come up with better things than this, unbelieveable...
ReplyDeleteGet a job!
Sign me up, would try anything at this juncture. Back to porridge Nelson lad, needs must...
ReplyDeleteVery interesting and very well presented - deserving of praise even if its only fun
ReplyDeletewhat a load of bull
ReplyDeleteIn all honesty Jamie, this article is no different to 90% of what you write. And the real irony is that 90% of the time I crack up laughing at the drivel you churn out, but in this case, I didn't even smile. Stick to your inimitable interpretation of footie stats lad - you're far funnier at that.
ReplyDeleteOh dear! Now I see ... I was wondering why are you are soooo stuck into your statistics about Roy Hodgson. It's the obsession with numbers, just like Russell Crowe in "Beautiful mind". Now I get the whole picture. I'm so sorry Jaimie, I didn't know.
ReplyDeleteNot funny and IMO in very poor taste. Oh well
ReplyDeleteROTFLMAO :-), excellent!
ReplyDeleteIn all honesty Jamie, this article is no different to 90% of what you write. And the real irony is that 90% of the time I crack up laughing at the drivel you churn out, but in this case, I didn't even smile. Stick to your inimitable interpretation of footie stats lad - you're far funnier at that.
ReplyDeletePost that one more time and I'll ban you, Sean.
ReplyDeleteThis is the last time I will ever click on this site. Kanwar is a freak.
ReplyDeleteHurrrah! Another idiot leaves the site. Job done :)
ReplyDeleteKenwarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr uuuuu suck
ReplyDeleteI posted it again because I assumed I hadn't properly done so originally. It's just an honest reposte and hardly that offensive. Certainly nowhere near as offensive as some people might find your article above. I genuinely enjoy reading your articles although probably not for the reasons you'd prefer, but like I said, hardly offensive. I guess you're a little more sensitive than I imagined.
ReplyDeleteso do u suggest some1 should go and smack Mr.Mandela???
ReplyDeleteYes, clearly that is what I am suggesting.
ReplyDeleteJaimie, this wasn't that funny when you posted first posted it in July 2009, never mind as a repeat.
ReplyDeleteKanwar, I assume you are a 20 yr old man rite now. The moment you were born, Liverpool's downturn started, never won a trophy since then. So, going by this fact, you are the only one responsible for Liverpool's drought. Therefore, you must DIE.
ReplyDeletei can't believe the audacity of you sometimes.
ReplyDeleteFor once an article which doesn't get peoples' backs up. An amusing read. Good job.
ReplyDeleteYOU ARE JOKE MY FRIEND!
ReplyDeleteI like how you state that Hodgson *must* have Liverpool FC within 3-5 points of the top four on the 1st of January in order to maintain your support - yet, whilst the club currently languishes OUTSIDE this arbitrary benchmark, three points off the relegation zone with six weeks to go to January 1st, you refer to them as an "unreasonable, baying mob". Luckily, that "unreasonable baying mob of hypocrites" known as Liverpool fans (that you seem to despise) will transform on the stroke of Midnight on Years Eve 2010 into an enlightened authority.
ReplyDeleteNonsense.
Be careful with what u post.u are a freak nd should be jailed for this nonsense.it's obvious u are making fun of liverpool fc and it's fans.
ReplyDeleteSeriously dude, are you losing it? I've seen some sick stuff in my time, but to joke about sending this guy back to jail. Classy move.
ReplyDeleteecentric
ReplyDeleteirony
i like made me smile
pity the self serving fools dont get it
You've just sank to a new low *stats-man*. The only 2 people in the world that would find this funny is you and your father Mr. Roy Megson. Be careful Jamie, dad might just use Mandela as an excuse after the Westham game... O:-)
ReplyDeleteI can only imagine our sucess should the great man pass on. If he should he expire while incarcerated it really would usher in a new era.
ReplyDeleteOff to bury some chicken bones under, the east side of an old willow tree.
I can only imagine our sucess should the great man pass on. If he should he expire while incarcerated it really would usher in a new era.
ReplyDeleteOff to bury some chicken bones under, the east side of an old willow tree.
kanwar, i like your articles but this one?................its madness. How on earth could you think of that.......................you are damn freak. Its UNCLE WOY who should be jailed not MANDELA
ReplyDeleteI can only imagine our sucess should the great man pass on. If he should he expire while incarcerated it really would usher in a new era.
ReplyDeleteOff to bury some chicken bones under, the east side of an old willow tree.
I can only imagine our sucess should the great man pass on. If he should he expire while incarcerated it really would usher in a new era.
ReplyDeleteOff to bury some chicken bones under, the east side of an old willow tree.
I can only imagine our sucess should the great man pass on. If he should he expire while incarcerated it really would usher in a new era.
ReplyDeleteOff to bury some chicken bones under, the east side of an old willow tree.
I can only imagine our sucess should the great man pass on. If he should he expire while incarcerated it really would usher in a new era.
ReplyDeleteOff to bury some chicken bones under, the east side of an old willow tree.
Well done again RH.Leaves Gerrard on a wet wembley pitch to cover every blade of grass,then 5 minutes before the end comes off in agony injured.What is going on,is RH thinking he had better not upset the FA because when he gets the bullet he wants to be the top of their list.Rafa would never have allowed what happened tonight,Gerrard would have played one half and been under instructions not to exert himselfmit was only a friendly for rafas sake.
ReplyDeletewell, Nelson Mandela is not a young man anymore and maybe when hes gone then our fortunes will change again.
ReplyDeleteI have a gut feeling that we will win the league when Carragher becomes our manager so I reckon we got to carry on moaning at least for another 5 years
I am beggining to think you are infact Roy Hodgson Jamie :-[
ReplyDeleteyou still didn't got it yet ... lol ;P i guess maybe you haven't finished high school .. maybe that's why u didn't got it
ReplyDeleteahahahahahahahahahahahhaha
ReplyDeletewhat a master piece ahahahahahahahah
Jaimie i should tell you , you are writing controversial but yet marvelous articles recently, unfortunately there were alot of idiots and twats - as liverpudlians say - who didn't understand ur points. Just be confidence and don't be disturbed by some of the dog's barking, because these barking don't have any meaning it's just a bad noise with no point. well done, nice job ;)
ReplyDeletei think jailing mandela again is a bit harsh, cant we jail hodgson instead!, for all the damage he's done to our club!
ReplyDeleteJaimie, i have read this somewhere. i think it's in the forum somewhere. all u do is just copy-and-paste and modify the article a little bit here and there.... =-O
ReplyDeleteYes, I posted it before on this site about a year and a half ago. That's where you saw it.
ReplyDeleteJail them both. In fact, throw Glen Johnson in there with them too.
ReplyDeleteIs this like a tax write-off? Write a slew of troll pieces designed to divide Liverpool and boost your egocentric self-appointed 'anti-hero' status, and then write a few 'humourous' puff pieces (please note the strategically placed apostrophes) to make it look like you're interested in anything other than exploiting turmoil and malcontent within the club to promote your own sense of importance. Lest us not forget that your support of Hicks and Gillett stating that they were a 'necessary evil' and had dragged us kicking and screaming into the 21st century. Basically stuff that a runner up in The Apprentice could do. Lest we forget you proudly displaying emails from the spawn of Hicks thanking you for your support.
ReplyDeleteTomorrow it'll be back to bashing Benitez and backing Roy. Not because you genuinely believe that Roy is the right manager for Liverpool but because you know that we don't. Because I do not wish to insult you I'm trying to think of another word for 'sociopath'.
so its ok for Rio to come off but its not ok for Gerrard.Thats it, it just shows how far LFC have fallen from grace.gerrard misses the games against west ham and away to spurs,well be lucky to pick up 1 point maybe 0-0 against west ham at best.Hodgson knows he will get the sack so he is allowing gerrard to play the 90 minutes on a rain sodden pitch at wembley knowing he is well regarded by the fa and with redknapp unlikely to bale out at spurs he will go straight to the top of the fa list for the olympics and england job.what a joke.
ReplyDeleteUnbelievable. How is it Hodgson's fault Gerrard played?! You do not know that Hodgson is not the England manager, right? Gerrard was fit; HE will have wanted to play and there's nothing Hodgson could've done about that.
ReplyDeleteLFC supposedly told the FA only to play gerrard for 1 hour, the way Gerrard plays he would always be a risk of getting injured late on especially a heavy wembley pitch.This was only a freindly game.Rafa would have made it clear to the player if they dont bring you off just go through the motions which he used to do a lot,its only lately Gerrard has been busting a gut for England.Every other top manager either pulls their players out of freindlies or lets them play half a game,then I see the top players easing off if they play longer than they should.Rafa had influence it seems RH doesnt have the same clout.
ReplyDeleteHellow!
ReplyDeleteI love your site, it is a pleasure to visit.
I have added your site to my site.
Please link my site to your site.
Thank you!
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Jamie,
ReplyDeleteSilly!! Hahahahahaha...Leave our Mandela alone!! Funny one. Atleast we arent fighting today.
Thanks.
LOL LOL, a few chuckles are good for the soul. Esp for Reds Fans.. YNWA
ReplyDeletei cant take this article at face value because it does seem odd of you to write this...but, i still think im missing the point...if i had to guees, is it about lfc fans blaming hodgson or something somewhere along those lines?
ReplyDeleteJamie, I do see the funny side to your article and completely understand that this was posted on jest.
ReplyDeleteThat being said I do believe this article to be very disrespectful to an iconic individual who suffered a severe injustice, in the pursuit of freedom and democracy for millions of South Africans. He is regarded as a father figure to millions and is held in high regard as a respected world leader.
Surely you can muster up an alternative way to try and bring and bring some fun to an article. As a South African. I assure you that some people will consider this to be a rather lame attempt at trying to bring some humour to an article and will not appreciate your article. Perhaps try to avoid sensitive subjects such as these, especially as you have no real idea as to what many South Africans as well as Former President Nelson Mandela had to endure. Making fun of his imprisonment and suggesing this again (even as a joke) is quite simply disgusting and in poor taste.
A very disappointed South African.
Jamie, I do see the funny side to your article and completely understand that this was posted on jest.
ReplyDeleteThat being said I do believe this article to be very disrespectful to an iconic individual who suffered a severe injustice, in the pursuit of freedom and democracy for millions of South Africans. He is regarded as a father figure to millions and is held in high regard as a respected world leader.
Surely you can muster up an alternative way to try and bring and bring some fun to an article. As a South African. I assure you that some people will consider this to be a rather lame attempt at trying to bring some humour to an article and will not appreciate your article. Perhaps try to avoid sensitive subjects such as these, especially as you have no real idea as to what many South Africans as well as Former President Nelson Mandela had to endure. Making fun of his imprisonment and suggesing this again (even as a joke) is quite simply disgusting and in poor taste.
A very disappointed South African.
This is a load of crap. You are a disgrace to Liverpool fans worldwide. You are one sick motherF*****
ReplyDeleteVery good comment enjoyed it Long Mandela live but sorry The Reds come first
ReplyDeletedont forget poulsen and konchesky !!!
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ReplyDelete<span><span>I totally agree with your comments. Its a very valid point that many people outside south africa dont appreciate the immense pressure and turmoil Mandella and SA have had to go through. Twenty years false incarceration is not a context that should be used in a light hearted manner to illustrate an unrelated point.</span></span>
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<span><span> Jaimie, I can see the point you are trying to make here but in my opinion I think some people will find this article insensitive and insulting. Obviously you are not trying to deliberatley offend but I think you could used another historical context or person to demonstrate your point.</span></span>
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<span><span>That said, on the whole I do enjoy your arguments even if I don't always agree with you or the terms (eg traitors!) that you use. I appreciate you responding to comments which helps faciltate a good level of lively debate. Your statistics are well researched too. </span></span>
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ReplyDelete<span><span>I totally agree with your comments. Its a very valid point that many people outside south africa dont appreciate the immense pressure and turmoil Mandella and SA have had to go through. Twenty years false incarceration is not a context that should be used in a light hearted manner to illustrate an unrelated point.</span></span>
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<span><span> Jaimie, I can see the point you are trying to make here but in my opinion I think some people will find this article insensitive and insulting. Obviously you are not trying to deliberatley offend but I think you could used another historical context or person to demonstrate your point.</span></span>
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<span><span>That said, on the whole I do enjoy reading your articles even if I don't always agree with you or the terms (eg traitors!) that you use. I appreciate you responding to comments which helps faciltate a good level of lively debate. Your statistics are well researched too. </span></span>
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ReplyDeleteThere is nothing Hodgson you have done about Gerrard staying on...I am sure he is furious about the injury. The decision was Cappellos. He would have asked Stevie to carry on as the senior player, and Stevie as the vice captain and the player that he is would have gladly agreed to help the England cause.
Jamie, I think you have missed the point here. Whilst I accept that Mr. Mandela should take part of the blame, I think it is his wife who was the chief architect in LFC’s downfall. This is a fact which is often overlooked.
ReplyDeleteClearly he tried his very best to stay in prison for as long as possible to avoid spending quality time with her. Had she been just a little bit nicer, then he may well have gotten out a few years earlier, which means that his release would have coincided with the Dalglish team that was one of the greatest Liverpool teams ever.
Nelson was often misunderstood so I ask you to take his into consideration future.
Jamie, I think you have missed the point here. Whilst I accept that Mr. Mandela should take part of the blame, I think it is his wife who was the chief architect in LFC’s downfall. This is a fact which is often overlooked.
ReplyDeleteClearly he tried his very best to stay in prison for as long as possible to avoid spending quality time with her. Had she been just a little bit nicer, then he may well have gotten out a few years earlier, which means that his release would have coincided with the Dalglish team that was one of the greatest Liverpool teams ever.
Nelson was often misunderstood so I ask you to take his into consideration future.
Jamie, I think you have missed the point here. Whilst I accept that Mr. Mandela should take part of the blame, I think it is his wife who was the chief architect in LFC’s downfall. This is a fact which is often overlooked.
ReplyDeleteClearly he tried his very best to stay in prison for as long as possible to avoid spending quality time with her. Had she been just a little bit nicer, then he may well have gotten out a few years earlier, which means that his release would have coincided with the Dalglish team that was one of the greatest Liverpool teams ever.
Nelson was often misunderstood so I ask you to take his into consideration future.
Jamie.
ReplyDeleteWith respect I think you have missed the point here. I am sick and tired of Nelson Mandela getting all the blame for the downfall of LFC. Whilst I accept that he is partly at fault, I think it is unfair to name him as the the sole destroyer-in-Chief as he could not have possibly managed this by himself. I ask you to re-examine the evidence, because you will clearly see that it was in fact his wife who the ring leader.
It is common knowlegde that Nelson tried his hardest to stay in prison for as long as possible as he wanted to avoid spending any quality time with her. Had she been just a little bit nicer, he could have gotten out a few years earlier, which means his release date would have coincided with begining of the Dalglish era, which for me was one of the greatest Liverpool teams of all time.
In addition the Willy Mandela football team were poor tactically, unmotivated and suspect when defending long throws into the box. Sound familular? For me the evidence is overwhelming.
Nelson was oflten mis-understood, I hope that in future you will reflect this point when debating this issue.
Regards
Jamie.
ReplyDeleteWith respect I think you have missed the point here. I am sick and tired of Nelson Mandela getting all the blame for the downfall of LFC. Whilst I accept that he is partly at fault, I think it is unfair to name him as the the sole destroyer-in-Chief as he could not have possibly managed this by himself. I ask you to re-examine the evidence, because you will clearly see that it was in fact his wife who was the ring leader.
It is common knowlegde that Nelson tried his hardest to stay in prison for as long as possible as he wanted to avoid spending any quality time with her. Had she been just a little bit nicer, he could have gotten out a few years earlier, which means his release date would have coincided with begining of the Dalglish era, which for me was one of the greatest Liverpool teams of all time.
In addition the Willy Mandela football team were poor tactically, unmotivated and suspect when defending long throws into the box. Sound familular? For me the evidence is overwhelming.
Nelson was oflten mis-understood, I hope that in future you will reflect this point when debating this issue. <span></span>
Great points, Spike. I had overlooked the insidious influence of Nelson's wife, but now that you've mentioned it I can definitely see how I may have been a tad harsh on the man. Clearly, the greatest trick Winnie Mandela ever pulled was convincincing Liverpool fans she had nothing to do with the club's downfall. I will indeed reconsider the evidence, and update the article accordingly.
ReplyDeleteI think this is the most accurate article I've ever read here
ReplyDeleteListen to that - you've actually read it before, on the same website! Just about sums Jaimie Kanwar up.
ReplyDeleteIf you seriously belive this and I hope you dont, Al the arguments you have put in previous about your biews on things mena absolutely nothing. Your head must be in the clouds and only when you drop down to earth and clear the crap from your eyes you will see that liverpool have not been successful due to the fact we have not had the best manager in charge of the club. Shankly, paisley, fagan and dalglish where all managers who knew how to win and could inspire the un-inspired, motivate the un motivaded and make ordinary players play outstanding football. Now lets draw a line under our history as we can go on about it all day and it really doesnt solve anything, However, Currently we have a manager that un-inspires the inspired, un-motivates the motivated and can make outstanding players play ordinary. Until this situation is fixed then here are some other things that happened in 1990 that we can blame instead of roy hodgson for our current predicament.
ReplyDeleteGerman reunification (July 1, 1990):
1990-1991: Gulf War I (August 2, 1990-February 28, 1990):
Or shal we as normal football fans just blame the manager and his lack of leadership, motivation, influence, tactics and signings he made!!
maybe its sarcasm! maybe your being sarcastic!! funnily enogh this type of read can be just as intensive on the briain!!
ReplyDeleteIf you seriously belive this and I hope you dont, All the arguments you have put in previous pages about your views on things mean absolutely nothing. Your head must be in the clouds and only when you drop down to earth and clear the crap from your eyes will see that liverpool have not been successfull due to the fact we have not had the best manager in charge of the club. Shankly, Paisley, Fagan and Dalglish where all managers who knew how to win and could inspire the un-inspired, motivate the un motivaded and make ordinary players play outstanding football. Now lets draw a line under our history as we can go on about it all day and it really doesnt solve anything. Lets look at our current situation, Currently we have a manager that un-inspires the inspired, un-motivates the motivated and can make outstanding players play ordinary. Until this situation is fixed then here are some other things that happened in 1990 that we can blame instead of Roy Hodgson for our current predicament.
ReplyDeleteGerman reunification (July 1, 1990):
1990-1991: Gulf War I (August 2, 1990-February 28, 1990):
Or shal we as normal football fans just blame the manager and his lack of leadership, motivation, influence, tactics and signings he made!!
Yes, I seriously believe that Nelson Mandela is responsible for Liverpool's failure to win the league for 20 years. And I say that without exaggeration or hyperbole.
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ReplyDeletemy the penny still hasn’t dropped with some lfc fans !?
the writer here has done this as a parody to all the out of proportion nonsense getting spouted about this season.
the lynch mob are so blinkered they would like to perform a coup de grace on a regime thats barley been hear long enough for the tea lady to get their coffee order right!
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ReplyDeleteDont try cleverly shove your political opinions to others using football as a excuse because it wont work Liverpool fans are not stupid.
You're being ironic, right? If not, then this comment is truly frightening.
ReplyDeleteRoy Hodgson has criticised Glen Johnson in the press. Why is this attitude being supported by this site?
ReplyDeleteAfternoon lads, looks like bad news about Stevie.
ReplyDeletehttp://premierleagueupdates.blogspot.com/2010/11/gerrard-facing-lengthy-lay-off.html
What are you on about? Where exactly is the evidence that this site has supported that?!
ReplyDeleteThe fact that the last few seasons, if the manager said x or y about a player in the press, then this site would discuss and/or criticise the value of a such a move.
ReplyDeleteBut yes, sure you are right. There is no tacit approval of the latest player criticism in the press,. Only an implicit approval in terms of no mention whatsoever!
'coup de grace', 'regime' you sound like where are ousting Saddam Houssein. The fact is a massive majority did not want Roy in the first place and now we are not really producing good football, its a chance to get him out as really hand on hearts most did not want him in the first place. Any signing that will come in will only be dead wood when another more accomplished manager comes in. The main reason why I am personally against Roy Hodgson being manager is that I asked myself one question when he signed for liverpool. "Do I believe that Roy Hodgson as a manager compared to the other managers that are out there, have the capability to make liverpool into a title winning side". My answer was No chance.
ReplyDeleteDo you get off annoying people Jaimie? You post articles that you know people will be antagonised by, then battle out an argument, then you stop replying when the other person's got a point. Do you have a girlfriend?
ReplyDeleteI'm still waiting for an apology.
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ReplyDeleteTo be fair, Jaimie has stated on this site that the he didnt agree with the public critiscm of GJ.
To be fair, Jaimie has stated on this site that the he didnt agree with the public critiscm of GJ
To be fair, Jaimie has stated on this site that the he didnt agree with the public critiscm of GJ.
ReplyDeleteTime for Meireles to step up then. Hopefully the nxt four eeks will be the making of him.
ReplyDeletea few matters often ignored -
ReplyDeleteif some better managers where in the running/wanted the job they wud have been persueded to take it b 4 roy h did!
we have to wake up no white knight is coming to save us we have waht we have - dissenting against even one player or a coach is suicide.
no one stands out any way as a good choice - forigners who cant speak the lingo!past mangers out of touch, any better mangaers r simmply not available or interseted at this time, if the lynch mob have there way sammy lee will have to hold the reins till june! FFS
if any one thinks another major change so soon is a good idea look at any other club and try and find a proper suceses from such tactics.
changing now will set us back again it will have us more of a laughing stock
Im not rh's biggest fan by a long way. howver i can see the raeson we are so deep and thats as midfield is mediocre.
its a tough time we r enduring time to buck up and support this is when it counts now - not when we land our nxt cup.
people r rite to be frustrated by certain events in our performances and have the right to boo after the 90.
anything else is detrimental to the club ,end off palin n simple fact - this crazed must sack roy and his buys is lunacy at this stage of a season.
i smell easily led sheep who will absorb all the press drivel , glory fans who wud if they had rhire way sack past servants at the drop of a hat! ive seen it all b 4 such as whelan,mcallister,alonso, even kriytriakos was slughtered intally.
premature anhilation of lfc servants is an ale house past time, it will not be stopped i just wish our famous rep for knoweledagble fans is not ruined by all the out of control opinions from illinformend people.
look at the recent pachenco rummour - it was only a bit of gossip from a spanish pundits website tottally unfounded yet kopites everywhere have itas cast in stone now, and its all roys fault! ignoring the discipline matter danny had to see out.
hodgsons brief time so far has cast doubt on his ability, he needs to answer these questions, he needs to cowboy up and show his capability.
I am baffled why fans cant see what they do with halfcocked beliefs - the more unfounded lies is spread, the more press vulture soundbites are paraded as gospell will jsut add to LFCs woes and obviously hurt not just Roy H but also our great club!
I despar with it its out of control
the writer here who i must point out with im usually at logerheads with also sounds at a loss
these comments on mandella indicate frustration.
another example of how people belive everthing they read is also illustated by this light hearted article.
just look at how some interpit it its laughable!
we have to lump it and dig in - collective support will get us throu the shit,
u kno like in our anthem
Excellent points, longchalk. Thank you :-)
ReplyDeletei dont support such action, it was illadvised of rh to go down that road,
ReplyDeletea touch of the gordon starchans its wats needed at press time,
it is again an example of the media hounds pushing for a story, the johnson topic was a fraction of that interview, the hounds got what they wanted and manipulated it.
any way whats the f ing prob johbnson is crap sometimes he needs a kickl in the behind to gee him up.
also some people accuse roy of not doing this or that in proper context he didnt actually hang him out to dry he merley challanged him to show his true form/worth.
if johnson was half the player he supposed to be hed keep his twitter page to promoting shampoo and to his talking on the traing grouns and the pitch!
The snow ball has started and its getting bigger, wait till this saturday. I will be in the kop as usual, when the chants go up for dalglish i will be singing. There was one man that wanted the job and he though he was better than roy and that was kenny dalglish. If the fans where to have chosen either Kenny or Hodgson, you would hear dalglish's name ring out. this is why we will be singing it on the weekend. I understand there may have been no better managers out there but if the choice was kenny or roy. Who would have you left this club with, the man that should be in the dug out is sitting helplessly in the stands!!!!
ReplyDeletejesus christ????? did you all also know that there is definition in the dictionary for the word gullible?
ReplyDeletedid you all also know there is NO definition in the dictionary for the word gullible??
ReplyDeleteYou wanted to know where there was success at another club by getting rid of a manager shortly after he was appointed?
ReplyDeleteChelsea 08/09. Scolari ousted, Hiddink in and then they went on a run in all comps, winning FA cup. It worked.
LFC aren't the same proposition as when Hodgson took over. H+G are gone, the future is brighter now. Managers will be interested again. We don't need to suffer the mediocrity Roy is providing.
It is totally clear that the owners are going to stick with Roy till Jan at the very least, so maybe its best to focus on the positive. I think, if u look at the matches till jan (detailed below) we have a great chance to go on a nice little run, pick up a few points and be within touching distance (say 4/5 pts ) of fourth spot. Spurs away is a tough game, But I would hope to get at draw at the very least against villa at home. The other games are all winnable. Hodgson had a winning run before, he needs to have another good run now, and there is no reason why he shouldnt.
ReplyDeleteHowever, if come January we are nowhere near 4th spot than yes I think the owners will ask the question as to whether Roy is the right man to continue and they would be right to do so.
Up to the new year we have:
wham H, spurs A, villa H, newcastle A, Fulham H, Blackpool A, Wolves H, Bolton H
Hahaha WOW oaky... Just WOW
ReplyDeleteGreat read Jamie
Predictions for the week end....
ReplyDeletehttp://premierleagueupdates.blogspot.com/2010/11/premier-league-predictions.html
The absence of evidence is not evidence of absence!!!
ReplyDeleteOh please... Why don't climb down off his balls already
ReplyDeleteGood to see Roy making amends : http://www.liverpool-kop.com/
ReplyDeleteGood to see Roy making amends: http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/latest-news/hodgson-on-johnson-future
ReplyDeleteNow is johnson's turn to be a big man
Jammii, I would like to thank you for your work so far. I remember when the clamour began for Benitez to go, you were ahead of the times, and there was less evidence to support you then. But we are watching a caterpillar become a slug. And like a slug slimes everything it touches, you slime your readers with your nonsense and banter. I am ashamed of you.
ReplyDeleteand benitez.
ReplyDeleteand lucas, johnson, maxi, ngog, babel, insua, aurelio, and all
ReplyDeletethe other shite we are stook with.
team for game against west ham.
ReplyDeletereina
johnson carragher skrytl konchesky
maxi poulsen meirelles kuyt
ngog torres
we must have the slowest team in the premier league.
just looked at a poll on YNKA 98% want Hodgson out Now. Surley 98% cannot be wrong!!! If it where who wants to be a millionaire you would surley go with the audience, Hodgson out.
ReplyDeleteJaimie,
ReplyDeleteNo comment on Johnson's outstanding performance today?
When you and others start acknowledging the good performances of konchesky and poulsen then maybe I'll acknowledge Johnson's performance.
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PATHETIC
ReplyDeleteDon't give up the Day job Kanwar !!!
So why was it originally written 2009, when we were chasing the title !!!!
ReplyDelete<span><span><span><span>"Glen Johnson is a top-class player, we all know that, and it was nice to see him play so well today and show the fans how well he can play." - Roy Hodgson</span></span></span></span>
ReplyDeleteTo Mr Kanwar he is a player Rafa wasted £17M on
Jaimie, as you have stated before, the opinions you offer are your own. Rightly so...its your website. If you want to acknowledge Johnson's and indeed Konchesky's and Poulsen's performance in a match then go for it. The viewpoints you choose to disseminate shouldnt depend upon prior acknowlegements by others.
ReplyDeleteI myself was very pleased by yesterday's performance. Obviously the 2nd half was a little disappointing it would have been nice to use the opportunity to improve our goal diff, but overall a good 3 points. It was pleasing to see some of the more maligned players of late performing with a bit of swagger!
Most LFC fans have been pleased with John Henry's approach so far, and his relationship with us. I think its important we reciprocate his conduct by respecting his decision and backing Roy. Ultimately the fate of the manager is in the hands of Henry and NESV. I really get a strong feeling of consistency from Henry...he has given his unequivocal support to Roy, and I cant see him suddenely retracting that. There seems to be a needless futility in continuously tweeting 'sack Roy' pleas to him. Furthermore the continued speculation (often media driven) that he is to be replaced is not going to help the manager or the team perform better.
There are quite a few things Roy has done that I just don't agree with. However
as I've stated in a previous post, we now need to focus on this opportunity to get a good run going. Even if we lose to Spurs, its not a disaster. There still would be 6 potentially winnable games to Jan. Its quite simple....if Roy and the team play positively, there is no reason why we wont be right up there for fourth, come the new year.
I'm loving the excitment of the premiership at the moment, look at what has happened to Chelsea and Bolton! Who knows where the title will end up, and indeed who will be in the top four. So much more exciting than the boring predictablity of La Ligas two horse race! We can do it! YNWA!
I think has the potential to be a really good right back. There is no doubting his ability going forward. But there have been numerous times last and this season where he has been culpable for defensive mistakes. There is an argument that says when you are paying 17 million pounds for player a signficantly higher level of defensive performance would be expected.
ReplyDeleteHowever the pleasing thing after hearing GJ speak yesterday is that he is able to acknowledge his weaknesses and is determined to improve.
In my opinion, GJ ideal position would be wing back. Obviously that would mean playing three at the back which would be impractical. Some have suggested that he move up to RW (as spurs did on the left with Bale) , and that we start to play Kelly as RB. It has been suggested that this could work because GJ's experience as RB would lead him to back track more than the average RW to support the developing Kelly until he had more experience. I would be interested to know what people thought of that idea?
It's just one game; it doesn't change a year and a half of defensive liability. Changing an opinion about something after one fame us fickle; let's see some consistency from Johnson and then we'll talk.
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Its a good point Jaimie. its over to all the players to prove there worth. what i want to see at liverpool is players chomping at the bit to get into the first team and establish themselves. Liverppol have a good weeks rest before the spurs game so lets see where that brings us.
ReplyDeleteWith regard to the club in my opinion its been mis manage since john smith the late liverpool chairman passed away along with peter Robinson retirement. Liverpool as evryone knows needs to improve commercially and tap into all potential revenues. As for players we either need to produce them or buy or world class players. lets have no wasting mone and lets run a tight ship.
Love the articles
Jaimie, I'm not sure what you're talking about. I've don't recall commenting on either Konchesky or Poulsen on this site. Are you making assumptions about my opinion of them? I only asked if you had anything positive to say regarding Johnson's performance yesterday, as I know you've been critical of him in the past.
ReplyDeleteI agree that johnson has work to do in defence but he was the only player who provided liverpool with width on saturday, if we are going to win against better oposition then we need these type of players and this option. Second half against west ham we where again a different team, two banks of 4 coming deep. This will be exploited by better teams. Konchestky is not good enough, his only option a few times was trying to push the ball past the defender and bully his way through to no avail. As soon as aurelio came on, his general play and ability is way ahead of konchesky and he has been out for a long time. We must remember it was west ham and they where awful. Second half was not good to be standing at the back of the kop, all but a few maixi and torres songs and the threat of bouncing, the atmosphere really did reflect the second half performance, mediocre.
ReplyDeleteVery funny - can we lobby the U.N and see what they say?! At this moment in time - these stats make it easier for us to stomach at how rubbish we have been Over the last 20 years! THE reason why we are pants! Lol
ReplyDeleteDo an article on Commoli, let's get the discussion going there please.
Funny article.
ReplyDeleteAn interesting read. The Winnie Mandela angle was hilarious.
he's 92 now and counting.
ReplyDeletewhat will happen when he dies? Liverpool FC wil die too or arise back like in old times? what do you think?
YOU STUPID RETARD WHOEVER POSTED THIS...NELSON MANDELA IS THE GREATEST MAN ALIVE!!!!!!!
ReplyDeleteSmh..Now I think u r beginning to upset Liverpool fans in Africa....If this post was meant for humour, I'm sorry, u failed
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