Last week, Sky Sports claimed that Liverpool are '5/2 favourites' to sign Barcelona attacker Pedro, and the man himself has now confirmed that a move may be on the cards this summer.
When asked on Sunday about his future at the Nou Camp, Pedro told reporters:
"It’s true, we agreed to reduce the value of the buyout clause and it’s true there are offers. I want to remain calm...and we will see what happens after that.”
According to The Guardian, Barcelona have reduced Pedro's ridiculous €150m release clause to an eminently affordable €30m [£21m], which is good news for Liverpool, who are still seemingly in the market for another attacking midfielder.
Recent transfer timeline:
* March 2015: The Mirror claimed that Barcelona offered Pedro to Liverpool.
* May 2015: According to The Telegraph, 27-year old Pedro was 'ready to quit the Nou Camp' after falling down the attacking pecking order.
* June 2015: Signed a new deal with Barcelona until 2019. Buyout clause: £110m
* June 2015: Mundo Deportivo claimed that Liverpool made contact with Pedro's agent, and that Barcelona are willing to sell for €30m.
Barcelona have just completed the signing of Arda Turan, so the competition for Pedro is only going to increase next season.
Indeed, it's hard to see the addition of Turan as anything but a poke in the eye for the Spaniard, and perhaps this manifest lack of faith will turn out to be the straw that broke the camel's back.
When asked this week about his future, Pedro directly referenced Turan, when he told reporters:
"I'm in a tricky position. We'll see what's best for everyone. He [Turan] has a lot of quality. He'll bring a lot to the team".
It's ludicrous to think that Raheem Sterling - who has achieved comparatively *nothing* in his career - is worth more than a player with 20+ major trophies, including 5 league titles, 3 Champions League titles, and a World Cup winner's medal.
What a joke, and it just serves to underline yet again the insane logic that pervades football. Even if Sterling plays for another 20 years, he still won't achieve 50% of Pedro's current trophy haul. But I digress...
For me, this is an absolute no-brainer, and if Liverpool are able to seal the deal, it will be the transfer of the summer (IMO).
Unfortunately, Chelsea are reportedly set to offer Pedro a 4-year deal, but if - as the Spaniard claims - he wants 'a lot more minutes' next season, then moving to Stamford Bridge is a gigantic mistake.
Just like at Barcelona, Chelsea are oversubscribed in Pedro's position, and he'll probably end up being a secondary player once again. If he genuinely wants game-time, then Liverpool is clearly the place to be.
Author: Jaimie K
When asked on Sunday about his future at the Nou Camp, Pedro told reporters:
"It’s true, we agreed to reduce the value of the buyout clause and it’s true there are offers. I want to remain calm...and we will see what happens after that.”
According to The Guardian, Barcelona have reduced Pedro's ridiculous €150m release clause to an eminently affordable €30m [£21m], which is good news for Liverpool, who are still seemingly in the market for another attacking midfielder.
Recent transfer timeline:
* March 2015: The Mirror claimed that Barcelona offered Pedro to Liverpool.
* May 2015: According to The Telegraph, 27-year old Pedro was 'ready to quit the Nou Camp' after falling down the attacking pecking order.
* June 2015: Signed a new deal with Barcelona until 2019. Buyout clause: £110m
* June 2015: Mundo Deportivo claimed that Liverpool made contact with Pedro's agent, and that Barcelona are willing to sell for €30m.
Barcelona have just completed the signing of Arda Turan, so the competition for Pedro is only going to increase next season.
Indeed, it's hard to see the addition of Turan as anything but a poke in the eye for the Spaniard, and perhaps this manifest lack of faith will turn out to be the straw that broke the camel's back.
When asked this week about his future, Pedro directly referenced Turan, when he told reporters:
"I'm in a tricky position. We'll see what's best for everyone. He [Turan] has a lot of quality. He'll bring a lot to the team".
It's ludicrous to think that Raheem Sterling - who has achieved comparatively *nothing* in his career - is worth more than a player with 20+ major trophies, including 5 league titles, 3 Champions League titles, and a World Cup winner's medal.
What a joke, and it just serves to underline yet again the insane logic that pervades football. Even if Sterling plays for another 20 years, he still won't achieve 50% of Pedro's current trophy haul. But I digress...
For me, this is an absolute no-brainer, and if Liverpool are able to seal the deal, it will be the transfer of the summer (IMO).
Unfortunately, Chelsea are reportedly set to offer Pedro a 4-year deal, but if - as the Spaniard claims - he wants 'a lot more minutes' next season, then moving to Stamford Bridge is a gigantic mistake.
Just like at Barcelona, Chelsea are oversubscribed in Pedro's position, and he'll probably end up being a secondary player once again. If he genuinely wants game-time, then Liverpool is clearly the place to be.
Author: Jaimie K
Jaimie K......if we could get deals over the line for Pedro,do the Balotelli swap with Fiorentina for Mario Gomez and aquire the `Chilean pitbull`,Gary Medal from Inter Milan........I`d be confident of a top 4 EPL spot........blowing 46 mill on Ruess or 32.5 mill on Benteke...a no,no for me.
ReplyDeleteHe is going to Chelsea!
ReplyDeleteA couple of good things about Pedro to note straightaway- he is rarely injured and has an excellent record of scoring goals and providing assists given the amount of time he is on the pitch. Some questions would be whether his stats would remain as good if he were playing with lesser players than Messi, Neymar and Suarez, whether he would perform as well if he were given more of a prominent starting role (maybe he thrives on coming on against defenders tired out by the onslaught of his colleagues) and whether at 5 foot 5 he would have the strength to hold his own in the Premier League. If we really could get him in the face of competition from Chelsea he would be a good signing. Two factors might agitate in our favour on this. The first is that he'd probably end up on the bench at Chelsea whereas he'd be a starter for us. The second is he'll remember what a tosser Mourinho is from his time in Spain whereas he's probably never even heard of Brendan Rodgers so it might be a case of better the devil you don't know...
ReplyDeleteGomez, Reuss and Medal is a gamble. Gomez and Reuss are injury prone while Medal looks like a squad player. Pedro, Illarmendi and Higuain will bring us back to CL qualification.
ReplyDeleteWell, if that is true then I'll change my assessment of him! He's crap and always has been and anything I said to the contrary was merely inspired by the fact that JK told me he was coming to us!
ReplyDeleteI am surprised myself on how JK knows he is coming to us. We have been linked to every player on the planet so he can get an article somewhere that states that LFC is trying to sign Pedro! However, LFC do need to sign a big name player!
ReplyDeleteI agree we can't fritter away money on mediocre players like Denis Cheryshev!
ReplyDeleteOr Benteke!
ReplyDeleteMedel flopped totally at Cardiff City. Illarramendi is a much better player (although more expensive). Higuain is out of our price range- Napoli are insisting on £67 million for Higuain.
ReplyDeleteAgreed on the Higuain price tag. We have not replaced the void left by Suarez. Rather pay that amount and bring in Higuain then signing Benteke.
ReplyDeleteBut your spending would be Higuain (67million), Pedro (21million), Illarramendi (16 million). That's £104 million. Have our owners just won the Euromillions jackpot?
ReplyDelete49 mill from the Sterling sale and the rest from Lambertoli sale :D
ReplyDeleteMundo Deportivo is a highly unreliable paper in Spain so i'd take what they say with a pinch of salt, and apparently Enrique want Turan to take over Iniesta in midfield rather than challenge the offensive trio up-front for a place in the team.
ReplyDeletelaccazette is more realistic in terms of the price will be good with pedro,gary medal & chicarito .
ReplyDeleteBastian Schweinsteiger and Morgan Schneiderlin. UTD have just upgraded their midfield to something that is going to be a force to be reckoned with. Apparently they are after Cavani too.
ReplyDeleteThe focus should be on a prolific striker. We already have enough many attacking midfielders.
ReplyDeleteNow all we can hope for is that the the money from the Sterling deal is spent wisely. Please go get us another Suarez!
Lacazette and Illarramendi will do.
ReplyDeleteIf we can get Pedro as well.......bingo!
If we get just Pedro and Illarramendi instead it looks like Rodgers might see Firmino more as a false 9
LFC have spent in excess of 500m in the last 8 years and very little to show for it .
ReplyDeleteThey really need to take the bull by the horns and start adding 1or 2 world class players every season
Starting with Lacazette and Illarramendi.
That's only £50M in total then ;-)
ReplyDeletelol!
ReplyDeleteUntil I read it in the Metro I just won't believe it - a mock up picture in the Star wearing a Liverpool shirt would be the clincher ;-)
ReplyDeletePedro is coming to Liverpool yes i have heard it countless times for years now, well this one is not happening and i am glad its not.
ReplyDeleteThere is no doubt he is a good player with a lot of experience. But I just don't like him.
ReplyDeleteI am recording it!
ReplyDeleteI'm starting to get pretty excited about the new season.
ReplyDeleteRecord this Loges 49 mill for Sterling and you didnt think we could fleece em.
ReplyDeleteWe need a midfield general. Someone like Matic.
ReplyDeleteIf Lucas stays then I cannot see us adding anymore CM's as we are stocked.
Most likely now is Benteke. Still believe we should go all out and try to sign either Higuaín, Lacazette or even Benzema? Benzema and Lacazette may be out of our league due to no CL etc but Higuaín with no CL on offer at Napoli would be a good shout. The Napoli president is being a bit daft with the asking price but throw the £32.5m we want to spend on Benteke and see what they say. Worst case they will reject and say £40m. He is a 20-30 goal a season striker. Prolific as they come and exactly what we need.
I was gobsmacked when I saw the news. City clearly have been shafted.
ReplyDeleteYeah, not keen on him Pedro either. Aspas mark 2 when it comes to the EPL.
ReplyDeleteThere is always excitement when the new season starts. Just hoping with all the changes that have been made there will be no more excuses and chopping and changing of tactics, formations etc.
ReplyDeleteI want to see the pressing and counter attacking, not giving teams a chance to breathe football of 2013/14 but not sure this is going to be the plan if we do sign Benteke.
We're in a bit of trouble, maybe.
ReplyDeleteIt makes sense for Turan to compete with Iniesta rather than the forwards.
ReplyDelete67 million for Higuain well hes not worth it no one will pay that he is good but no Suarez.
ReplyDelete“Obviously there was talk about (Inter Milan) but the priority for me was always to stay at Liverpool and sign a new contract here,” Skrtel said.
ReplyDeleteHmmm, did he accept the offer he was unhappy about recently?
Arda Turan competing with Suarez and Pedro for a spot in a team? You can't be serious?!?
ReplyDeleteNot a chance we would have offered more than Inter could afford.
ReplyDeleteI see Sterling is being paid 160k pw plus appearance and goal bonuses bet he doesn't get too many assists this season.
ReplyDelete"I spent a lot of last season talking about transfers, and I don't intend to do that this season," he said. "Any business that we do will be done behind the scenes. When a player signs, you'll be the first to know."
ReplyDeleteLess talk, more show. That is what I want to see. Rodgers clearly has been told to zip it :-)
Most likely but it could be that he still is not happy with what we offered.
ReplyDeleteTo zip it, not to leave?
ReplyDeletePossibly but he is expendable.
ReplyDeleteTrue, Turan has played his best football in a midfield position, he played more attacking earlier in his career
ReplyDeleteIf he does continue to make excuses, does not take responsibility and does not deliver what is expected of him which most likely would be the guarantee of a trophy and qualification for CL this season then he will not survive another season.
ReplyDeleteBy December if we are out of the running for a top 4 spot then not sure how he will make it past the 1st of January. FSG are backing him with money again. Now is the time to put up or shut up. Shut up clearly is the order of the day at this point. FSG still very quiet too...
Yes but he also said he still has a good relationship with Sterling and that it was purely his idea to "unceremoniously" dump Marsh and Pascoe to" take ahead a "new direction"
ReplyDeleteI like the idea that he talks less now he needs to focus on what he does say.
Even though im not 100% sold on Pedro, comparing him to iago 'magic corners' aspas is doing P a disservice. He is a great player, just not one we need as much as a dm or cf
ReplyDeleteThis summer I meant?
ReplyDeleteThe less Rodgers says, the better.
ReplyDeleteI dont care too much about what he says as long as we are winning if thats not the case then he can zip it.
ReplyDeleteTrue but using leverage on the players you have already sends a message to those who might think of joining in future.......
ReplyDeleteThink that was irony...
ReplyDeleteIf we bought Pedro i would have to check to see if Wenger hasnt been hired he loves his attacking mids.
ReplyDeletePlus the bag of chips we got for mario
ReplyDeleteThis thing about 'it was his decision' to get rid of Pascoe and not to renew Marsh's contract is a bit of a strange one for me.
ReplyDeleteHe has made them scapegoats IMO. I reckon FSG told him that if they could have gotten who they wanted to replace Rodgers then he would have been shown the door. Whoever FSG approached either did not want the job or could not take it as yet. So he stays but on condition that he removed his yes men and replace them with backroom staff capable of providing sufficient and useful input into what he does. So FSG allowed him to select his new backroom staff as if they picked them for Rodgers then it is likely that there would have been trouble behind the scenes if the new coaching staff were appointed against his will but on condition that his selections are not made more yes men and when Rodgers again makes a muck up of things then his backroom staff cannot be made scapegoats and he will have no choice but to resign...
Pedro same frame size as Aspas. Aspas pulled of Suarez like moves in La Liga the season before we signed him. Comes to the EPL and is lost.
ReplyDeleteI do not want to hear again things such as "showed great character" or 'we were outstanding" when we have lost etc.
ReplyDeleteI am pretty sure FSG have have taken care of this part now.
I don't believe this for one minute, this rumour has been around for years now, why would he leave Barca to join us after winning the treble?
ReplyDeleteMost likely he'll go to Chelsea.
Very good player in the right environment but very much doubt whether that environment is the prem. Bit lightweight for me and not really sure a winger is a priority for us right now so I wouldn't be particularly excited by this one. I can't help but feel he has been slightly flattered throughout his career by playing for one of the greatest teams of all time. I can't think of too many occasions when he has been a game changer on his own. I would much rather we prioritised a top striker, DM and at least some form of cover at LB. Once we have covered all those positions only then would I even consider this move.
ReplyDelete"I'm 100% sure Sterling will sign this wonderful contract"
ReplyDeleteI find we agree more frequently in the close season
ReplyDeleteI disagree
ReplyDeleteI would agree in as much as there can be no excuses this season. FSG have backed Rodgers to the hilt this season. If he doesn't deliver top 4 next season he'll be gone
ReplyDeleteYet people still complain about FSG. I really don't get it.
ReplyDeleteThey have put the club on a even keel, commercial side is doing very well, stadium is being worked on and they are backing the manager.
Oi, I've called dibs on the chips
ReplyDeleteYeah. He's got great vision and feet. Always wanted him to play for Liverpool.
ReplyDeleteMost likely as its a great pay day.
ReplyDeleteLook at Salah, Ba, Cuadrado, Remy, Begovic, etc.. all of these players could of signed for different clubs and been first team players, yet they went to Chelsea even knowing that they would get limited playing time for the money
This is a crucial point.
ReplyDeleteTotally agree mate don't understand the negative comments about FSG. They have done a great deal for our great club bringing us back from the brink and setting us on our way for a greater future. In modern football terms (IMO) they are the best type of owners you can have. I don't want LFC to be run by some rich sugar daddy type I would rather we carry on the path we are on now. I also really admire their stubbornness when it comes to putting their foot down re: player sales. I for one am totally 100% behind FSG.
ReplyDeleteSo finally it is confirmed, Brendan stays!
ReplyDeleteRodgers confirmed backroom changes were his decision. Straight from the horses mouth, one of your favourite sayings. Still enough FSG backing for ya?
ReplyDeleteYou guys are forgetting we've got Jose Enrique to sell. There's the 100million right there!
ReplyDeleteWouldn't it just be easier if we tried to sign back Iago Aspas? With players like Pedro, Reus and Lacazette there's always other clubs chasing them too. Whereas with Aspas we know we're in with a shout of getting him! It just makes the Summer so much easier and means we can get on with other things rather than having to keep our eyes glued to Metro News!
ReplyDeleteGo see my other comment...
ReplyDeleteIt might pay for the salt and vinegar on the chips
ReplyDeleteFor now yes ;-)
ReplyDeleteNot buying the bit about FSG telling BR that if they could have gotten who they wanted to replace him then he would have been shown the door... I doubt very much that FSG would have told BR they had hoped to appoint someone else even if they did try (which again I don't think was the case). I think FSG were prepared to give him one last chance and I am not convinced at all they looked at any other options in any detail. They wanted a manager who had a plan, they appointed BR because of his detailed plan so they were always going to give him every chance to get it right otherwise they are basically admitting failure in their own recruitment process. Having said that we all know (BR included) this is his last chance.
ReplyDeleteFrom what I understand, they have a gentlemens agreement, Pedro and Mourinho....
ReplyDeleteIf we had spent it on them last summer we could have comfortably won top4 race... Than spending 120m on duds.
ReplyDeleteI don't buy 'improving the squad argument", 90% of it were totally failure., again, we should have just kept ibe (who's miles better than Markovic, promote Sinclairthan wwasting 20m on balo, keep illori (who i think is better than lovren if given a proper chance )
and here we are going after benteke
ReplyDeleteDid Medel flop, or did Cardiff.
ReplyDeletesharper than a razor blade this one.....
ReplyDeleteCheesy puffs from what I can see of his holiday snaps.
ReplyDeleteFunny really, De Laurentis says we want to sell, then turns round and says the fee is £67m for a 29 yr old. Hilarious really.
ReplyDeleteMundo Deportivo means The Daily Star.
ReplyDeleteIs Mourinho a gentleman?
ReplyDeleteYeah, but we all know Suarez and Ibrahimovic make Cavani look good.....
ReplyDeleteIn eight years. not alot really. Utd plan on spending over half that this summer.
ReplyDeleteI heard Sturridge is not really injured, he's really at area 51 getting fitted for his Bionic suit so Rodgers can play him at DM.
ReplyDeleteI know, I wasn't sure about writing it into the sentance, but I did.... I feel dirty now.
ReplyDeleteApparently Liverpool are the bookies' 16/1 4th favourites to sign Pedro so it's almost a done deal!
ReplyDeleteFrom the little bits I've read, a compromise was reached, and it was never about money as such, just the idea that he would be on an appearance related pay scheme, which is pretty insulting to offer one of our most important players, a player who played pretty much every game last season.
ReplyDeleteYeah, for younger players maybe, I wouldn't do it, but with Skrtel, who s coming to the twilight of his career, chances are he will be playing less games as a new CB is slowly introduced, maybe Ilori or Gomez... I think it's a dirty trick to try and shaft one of our more important players, but I think thats what they had in mind....
ReplyDeleteIt's a learning process.... I'm sure he realises he creates a rod for his own back when he does his David Brent... Maybe he has realised the football needs to talk for itself.
ReplyDeleteWho is thinking of joining Stu maybe a bit of inside info?
ReplyDeleteWhat are you on about? I have not stated anywhere, at any time, that Pedro 'is coming' to Liverpool. Every claim in the article about Pedro's future is attributed - it's a rumour, not something that I am personally pushing, so please stop twisting my words.
ReplyDeleteChelsea dont need him.
ReplyDeleteBut if FSG have given him a last chance (which we all know) then they would have surely told him exactly what he needs to achieve in order to stay on as LFC manager?
ReplyDeleteTheir recruitment process has failed already. It is there for everyone to see. £100's of millions have been wasted. There is no hiding from that.
Brendan admitted last December that his job was on the line. After the 6-1 Stoke he said FSG can get rid of him if they feel the need to.
It would be very naive to believe that FSG did not explore any other managerial options since the turn of the year. Getting someone else to implement their strategy could have been the headache for those who they approached or like I said, those they did approach were not interested at the time.
There is no way Rodgers will make it past January 2016 if we are in the same boat as last December and you would think FSG would have made that very clear to Brendan especially when they are giving a decent amount of money to spend again. I doubt FSG are without a plan if the season goes tits up again. Brendan will know about this?
We need a striker. We need multiple strikers... Ings has PL experience... Origi had WC experience in a stuggling Belgium team, and a poor season in France... It's all coulda shoulda..... These are the players we have, lets give em a channce.... If LFC can't offer Sinclair more playing time than he wants, then maybe a move would be the best scenario for all involved... Calling the academy a failur based on this is nonsesne.... This is the case with a players in all top flight academies.... Your either good enough to do an Owen, or your not.... Maybe Sinclair isjust not.
ReplyDeleteHe'll disappear in the prem, just like Navas
ReplyDeleteMaybe, maybenot, Utd have targets that total upto £300m if you believe whats being said.
ReplyDeleteThe only reason he's not a lfc player is that he wants a guaranteed spot in the first eleven and lfc are not ready to give him that..
ReplyDelete--------------Coutinho
ReplyDeletePedro-------------------Firminho
-------------Stturidge
CL final?
But that is precisely the point: if Sinclair - and countless other academy players are not good enough, then what's the point of the academy? There's either a serious failure in identifying youngsters with the potential to actually make it, or the coaching is not good enough to push these players to reaching their potential.
ReplyDeleteEither way, one success story every 10-15 years is not a good enough achievement to maintain the academy (IMO).
big mistake to sell kelly I agree. He came from our youth team and made the England squad. The problem is his body wasn't suited to being a right back and he wasn't good enough to play center half from the looks of it. He would have ended up going the same way as Rob Jones and veggie Heggem in terms of injuries but when fit he was one of the best our youth team has produced for years
ReplyDeleteOne big injury and we cut him lose and banked on Flano and the irony being Flano has been out all year injured....
ReplyDeleteWe sold him for pittance and he was one of the only full backs in the league, albeit playing LB when he is a right footer and natural RB, who kept Eden Hazard quiet...
We should have inserted a buy back clause or sent him on loan...
4-1-3-2.... very interesting
ReplyDeleteRodgers, he has no loyalty or patience whatsover unless you're in his circle. He's a very cliquey type of guy. He discards at the drop of a hat. He gave Coates one chance in a cup game and because we suffered humiliation at the hands of a lower league team Coates never played again. Nurture my arse, he spends most of his time scape goating and covering his.
ReplyDeleteAt the end of the day, our most important competition this year is the EPL. That's where our first teamers should be focused.
ReplyDeleteI think that when we had our title run a few years ago, the scheduling of one game a week played a major role in that.
No one likes to go out of the other competitions early, and the goal should always be to win them. However, winning them should not come at the cost of losing in the EPL.
All we have to avoid for the cup tied route is to make sure we don't incorrectly loan out the right players so that we don't have to bring them back early! Watching Ibe play in a cup game this year, I'll think we're in the twilight zone
My point exactly, thank you.
ReplyDeleteEveryone acknowledges that we needed strikers. I just don't get why we don't promote from within (not all the time, but at least more often than current). Give our academy players something to strive for.
we have resigned Iago Aspas in the form of Firmino
ReplyDeleteEverytime Rodgers has said we're chasing a top 3 finish the team crumbles and loses the nxt match. It happens time and time again and also happened last season. I hope he remains unnoticed like a good referee or WIFE lool
ReplyDeleteI am still worried about Mignolet. He got married last month which I thought might help to settle him down but his new Bride said that on the wedding night he was still fumbling around the box.
ReplyDeleteDid he foul her in the penalty area?
ReplyDeleteWatching the Thai game a few new faces doing ok Ings unlucky to have a goal disallowed Markovic and Sakho have scored its half time.
ReplyDeleteYes Rossiter getting involved too
ReplyDeleteHe looks pretty composed
ReplyDeleteI know he was nervous .........until she took her cross off
ReplyDeleteI am keeping my nose to the ground and to lamp posts and other dog's bums but nothing definite yet.
ReplyDeleteany stream available?
ReplyDeleteyes onsball.net
ReplyDeleteyes trying to beat the filter o n s b a l l . n e t
ReplyDeletePana KO
ReplyDeleteTexxira was good, now Origi looks like the hungriest player ever
ReplyDeleteNice header damn heavy conditions now too.
ReplyDeleteThat was a proper storm at the beginning of the second... Hendo more advanced than Milner. Very good...
ReplyDeleteDoubt they would see weather like that in Europe.
ReplyDeleteTell that to Salah
ReplyDeleteIn fairness, what is he supposed to say?
ReplyDelete"I fully expect him to transfer to Man City for close to 50m this summer"
Insulting? Obviously to him.
ReplyDeleteBut it's practical from LFC's standpoint. Skrtel is getting older (he's past 30), and we are going to be in 4 tournaments, including a Thursday-Sunday schedule due to Europa.
As far as I'm concerned, no one's forcing him to sign.
ReplyDeleteIf he doesn't like the contract, don't sign it.
He signed it, so there must have been some sort of compromise.
I don't know what it is with Liverpool fans, but it's comes across as unreasonable and somewhat arrogant... For some reason, LFC should be perfect in everything they do, we lose a game, and there are calls for Brendans (or whoever it is at the time) head... A player has a bad game and he's a flop.... To succeed in bringing players through the academy and into the first team would be something of a big deal, especially when looking at the same from Utd, Chelsea and City etc.... The academy is not solely about bringing players through for Liverpool... That is the ultimate aim of course, but reality proves that finding that calibre of player season after season in one acadmey is extremely difficult, even Barca can't do it....Every club in the professional game has a duty to help bring through the next generation of footballers for football as a whole, not just themselves.... This is what LFC do... If a player(s) isn't good enough, then they are moved on to a club that they will be good enough for... If a player is good enough, but prehaps isn't ready to playas many games as they want, which appears to be the case with Sinclair, then they need to understand that, and except the journey they are on.. Sinclair that played in the last couple of games last season, isn't ready to play a large roll leading the line for LFC, he isn't better than Origi, Ings or Sturridge, that is fact... If Brendan can't offer him as many games as he wants, then he should move on.. No hardship, no reason to start calling LFC's academy a failure... This is football, has been for 100 odd years... If for some reason any player gets into their heads that they know better than the clubs they play for, then prehaps the best thing for them is to move on... Again, no hardship... But to start posting criptic snidey comments on Social Media because you don't get the answer you want, then for me atleast, you can jog on.... If you don't have the patience to try and make it at LFC, a club who's fans demand they challenge for the title every season, then move to a club that will play you, and don't expect to challenge for silverware anytime soon.... It's funny really, we demand the club sign the best players we can, and make sure we have a good enough squad to challenge every year, but when we do hold off buying the superstars, and try and promote youth, fans start crying out that FSG are money grabbers, and have no ambition.... You just can't win....
ReplyDeleteIt's one of those non issue stories that get airtime because there is nothing better to write about, or as with LFC, the media are trying to infer there is some kind of failing at the club and all players are having issues.... Like I said, non story.... But seeing as we are talking about it, No body has to sign the first offer placed infront of them, in fact, in most cases the first offer is rarely signed, this is no different.
ReplyDeleteno, he simply needed to 'no comment'!
ReplyDeleteIts very rare that any youth development player is given a contract of longer than 3 years Europe wide. Profesional contracts in England are offered at 16 I believe. This is his first contact renewal coming at exactly the same time it would come with any club. I have a feeling he will sign a new improved contract offer in a month or two, possibly 4 to 5 years in length
ReplyDeleteOn another note the academy system serves a purpose in the local community. While not every player can be a Messi, Liverpool FC and there local scouting team will be picking up young kids and giving them an opportunity to become professional footballers at all levels. Its easy to forget that football exists beyond the top tiers but bare in mind my local club just got promoted to full time football (Conference Premier) where incoming players are after contracts of around £3000.00 a week Not a bad wage!
ReplyDeleteAnd where is Ince now? How many clubs since leaving Liverpool. Sure I agree Rodgers and those before him play it too safe when it comes to youngsters but this Sinclair, what has he achieved? Hes 18. Who is he to be refusing contracts? Off with him.
ReplyDeleteI don't see why it matters how many clubs Ince has had. He's simply getting on with his career (without fanfare), and since leaving LFC, he's amassed 180 appearances.
ReplyDeleteInce plays regularly, and that's important for young players. He's only 22, and he'll probably move to a big club at 23/24. And even if he doesn't, he appears to be happy just playing football.
How many first team games will Sinclair, Ibe, Ojo, Kent, Jones, Rossiter et al amass by 22? It certainly won't be anywhere near 180.
Always wondered why EL schedule (thu/sun) is harder on players than CL( wed/sat).
ReplyDeleteYes he has played but where? I can understand him leaving to play more but at the same time we also can see he was never good enough for a club like ours by looking at the level of the clubs hes got those 180 games at
ReplyDeleteI'd argue that regular game-time is the reason Ince has played in the lower leagues. He left LFC to play regularly, and he clearly doesn't want to do a Scott Sinclair and sit on the bench at a top club.
ReplyDeleteThat's a responsible approach to take, and it doesn't mean he's not good enough. Maybe Ince just doesn't want to risk it. There are plenty of excellent young players who repeatedly warm the bench at the biggest clubs, ignored in favour of big-money signings.
Perhaps Ince wants to establish himself, and gain experience/confidence first before moving to a big club.
wow 200 times! I look forward to seeing him get a call up to the England Euro16 squad, being thrown in due to injuries and performing well utilising his power and pace.
ReplyDeleteYou can still schedule Tuesday matches, and play Tuesday, Thursday, Sunday. Whereas, you can't schedule Tuesday matches with Tuesday, Wednesday, Saturday.
ReplyDeleteAt least that's the way I always looked at it.
Furthermore, the Europa seems to send teams onto more secluded locations than the mostly major cities of CL teams.
The Academy is one massive waste of time IMHO
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