[GUEST-POST] First, let me start by completely contradicting this post by saying I don’t think Rodgers is a horrible manager, not even a bad one. Over the past three years, though, his weaknesses have become increasingly obvious, and it basically boils down to this: Rodgers is incapable of delivering the goods at a club with Liverpool's standing and ambition.
Sure, Liverpool have fallen behind, but even without crazy oil money to throw around, revenue is up, the stadium will continue to grow, and the fanbase remains globally strong.
Much like Mancini and Pellegrini at Man City, Liverpool need a manager who can utilise those opportunities, and deliver what the likes of Ranieri, Grant and Scolari could not: consistent success.
Rodgers is likeable and ambitious, but he falls squarely into the Mark Hughes 'nearly man' category, and for me, his failures are holding Liverpool back. Examples:
Failure to deliver under pressure
Three points ahead of Manchester City, Rodgers failed to win the league in the final three games last year. He couldn't do anything about Gerrard's infamous slip, but he did walk into the Chelsea trap of putting 11 men inside their own box.
Had Rodgers settled for the draw, Liverpool would've still been one point ahead of Citeh and simply winning our final two games (against Palace and Newcastle) would've have been enough.
This year the same happened in the FA cup semis, although for different reasons. Liverpool had the chance to salvage the season against a perennial struggling Villa, but Reds just didn't show up for the game.
This arguably calls into questions Rodgers' preparation for big games, and shows that he does not know what the right tactics are, or when to use them.
Failure to deliver in the transfer market
When this is raised, fans will often argue that players need to settle-in, but the numbers don’t lie. The cold hard fact is that after spending over £210m over the last three years, only Coutinho and Mignolet (a little over 8% of the total transfer spend) are first team regulars.
One could argue Sturridge is also part of that equation, but he just doesn’t stay fit long enough. It’s like saying Seabiscuit would be a great racehorse if it were actually alive today.
Failure to attract top players
Apparently, Alexis Sanchez, Willian, Mkhitaryan, and Diego Costa did not want to Anfield, but who says that’s true? The only fact we know is that, when given the opportunity, none of the four wanted to sign for Liverpool, even with the presence of Gerrard and Suarez.
Two summers ago Rodgers claimed that lack of Champions League football is the reason for Liverpool's failure to attract top players, but what happened last summer, then? And why, if Sanchez only wanted to live in London, was he the only option ahead of Balotelli?
Why are guys like Di Maria and Falcao happy to live in Manchester? Is Liverpool such a horrible hole in the ground? I think not. And if the city is such a problem, how did Benitez manage to bring Alonso, Torres and Mascherano to the club?
Failure to rally the troops
Under Rodgers, Liverpool go missing in big, important games. For example, this season, the club got so close to the top four, then lost in quick succession against Man United and Arsenal.
Then, even after Man United lost three games in a row, Liverpool failed to capitalise, and got just one point out of two games against West Brom and Hull.
To add insult to injury, Rodgers couldn't even motivate the players to put in a shift for Steven Gerrard's final ever game at Anfield. When the going gets tough, the Reds go missing, and the buck stops with Rodgers, who is responsible for motivating the team and getting them to put their 'game face on' (as the Americans say).
Failure to build a balanced side
Rafa Benitez once said about the Valencia chairman: “I needed a table and they bought me a lamp”, or something along those lines. Rodgers seems to just buy lamps. Or tables. Whichever you like.
In three years, he’s bought five midfielders. Three of them in his first season, and none last summer, even though he knew Gerrard would be leaving this summer. In the same period, he’s bought eleven attackers, yet failed to bring in a much-needed holding midfielder.
Rodgers tried with Can, but quickly had to move him into defence to cover for his transfer failures in that department. Now, we have a defensive midfielder as a centre-half; an attacking midfielder playing defensive mid, and a winger playing as a striker. Makeshift players right through the heart of our team.
Failure to stick with a formation
Rodgers received praised for switching to a 3-4-3 formation earlier this season, but his poor transfer decisions forced his hand. That said, a good manager needs to take action when failing, and to his credit, Rodgers did that.
However, Since then, Rodgers has tried every formation under the sun, including 4-4-2, 3-4-3, 3-5-2, and 4-2-3-1. With this constantly formation-swapping, how can players and a team settle when the squad gets overhauled every summer, and the tactics change all the time?
The bottom line
Rodgers is constantly digging new holes to cover the holes he’s already dug for himself, and sooner or later he’s going to come unstuck. FSG are businessmen, and they think about the bottom line. They didn't hesitate when it came to dumping Kenny Dalglish - a club icon - so there's no doubt in my mind that Rodgers is on borrowed time.
In fact, I'd be baffled (disappointed in FSG) if Rodgers is still at Anfield next season. If that happens, I can only imagine they’re looking to sell the club.
Liverpool will not move forward unless and until an experienced 'been there and done it' manager takes over at Anfield. The list of names is out there on any rumours page you care to visit, and for the good of the club, I hope FSG are looking over that list.
Author: Eric
Sure, Liverpool have fallen behind, but even without crazy oil money to throw around, revenue is up, the stadium will continue to grow, and the fanbase remains globally strong.
Much like Mancini and Pellegrini at Man City, Liverpool need a manager who can utilise those opportunities, and deliver what the likes of Ranieri, Grant and Scolari could not: consistent success.
Rodgers is likeable and ambitious, but he falls squarely into the Mark Hughes 'nearly man' category, and for me, his failures are holding Liverpool back. Examples:
Failure to deliver under pressure
Three points ahead of Manchester City, Rodgers failed to win the league in the final three games last year. He couldn't do anything about Gerrard's infamous slip, but he did walk into the Chelsea trap of putting 11 men inside their own box.
Had Rodgers settled for the draw, Liverpool would've still been one point ahead of Citeh and simply winning our final two games (against Palace and Newcastle) would've have been enough.
This year the same happened in the FA cup semis, although for different reasons. Liverpool had the chance to salvage the season against a perennial struggling Villa, but Reds just didn't show up for the game.
This arguably calls into questions Rodgers' preparation for big games, and shows that he does not know what the right tactics are, or when to use them.
Failure to deliver in the transfer market
When this is raised, fans will often argue that players need to settle-in, but the numbers don’t lie. The cold hard fact is that after spending over £210m over the last three years, only Coutinho and Mignolet (a little over 8% of the total transfer spend) are first team regulars.
One could argue Sturridge is also part of that equation, but he just doesn’t stay fit long enough. It’s like saying Seabiscuit would be a great racehorse if it were actually alive today.
Failure to attract top players
Apparently, Alexis Sanchez, Willian, Mkhitaryan, and Diego Costa did not want to Anfield, but who says that’s true? The only fact we know is that, when given the opportunity, none of the four wanted to sign for Liverpool, even with the presence of Gerrard and Suarez.
Two summers ago Rodgers claimed that lack of Champions League football is the reason for Liverpool's failure to attract top players, but what happened last summer, then? And why, if Sanchez only wanted to live in London, was he the only option ahead of Balotelli?
Why are guys like Di Maria and Falcao happy to live in Manchester? Is Liverpool such a horrible hole in the ground? I think not. And if the city is such a problem, how did Benitez manage to bring Alonso, Torres and Mascherano to the club?
Failure to rally the troops
Under Rodgers, Liverpool go missing in big, important games. For example, this season, the club got so close to the top four, then lost in quick succession against Man United and Arsenal.
Then, even after Man United lost three games in a row, Liverpool failed to capitalise, and got just one point out of two games against West Brom and Hull.
To add insult to injury, Rodgers couldn't even motivate the players to put in a shift for Steven Gerrard's final ever game at Anfield. When the going gets tough, the Reds go missing, and the buck stops with Rodgers, who is responsible for motivating the team and getting them to put their 'game face on' (as the Americans say).
Failure to build a balanced side
Rafa Benitez once said about the Valencia chairman: “I needed a table and they bought me a lamp”, or something along those lines. Rodgers seems to just buy lamps. Or tables. Whichever you like.
In three years, he’s bought five midfielders. Three of them in his first season, and none last summer, even though he knew Gerrard would be leaving this summer. In the same period, he’s bought eleven attackers, yet failed to bring in a much-needed holding midfielder.
Rodgers tried with Can, but quickly had to move him into defence to cover for his transfer failures in that department. Now, we have a defensive midfielder as a centre-half; an attacking midfielder playing defensive mid, and a winger playing as a striker. Makeshift players right through the heart of our team.
Failure to stick with a formation
Rodgers received praised for switching to a 3-4-3 formation earlier this season, but his poor transfer decisions forced his hand. That said, a good manager needs to take action when failing, and to his credit, Rodgers did that.
However, Since then, Rodgers has tried every formation under the sun, including 4-4-2, 3-4-3, 3-5-2, and 4-2-3-1. With this constantly formation-swapping, how can players and a team settle when the squad gets overhauled every summer, and the tactics change all the time?
The bottom line
Rodgers is constantly digging new holes to cover the holes he’s already dug for himself, and sooner or later he’s going to come unstuck. FSG are businessmen, and they think about the bottom line. They didn't hesitate when it came to dumping Kenny Dalglish - a club icon - so there's no doubt in my mind that Rodgers is on borrowed time.
In fact, I'd be baffled (disappointed in FSG) if Rodgers is still at Anfield next season. If that happens, I can only imagine they’re looking to sell the club.
Liverpool will not move forward unless and until an experienced 'been there and done it' manager takes over at Anfield. The list of names is out there on any rumours page you care to visit, and for the good of the club, I hope FSG are looking over that list.
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Author: Eric
Needless to say, posts belittling/ridiculing Rodgers will be deleted, as will one-line snipes that hold no constructive or critical value.
ReplyDeleteKind of hard to argue with a lot of this stuff. Good post.
ReplyDeleteGreat article Eric! Nail hit on the head.
ReplyDeleteJaimie, whenever you start posting articles of a why a manager should/could/or will be sacked then it normally happens...
ReplyDeleteCouldn't agree more with everything.. he HAS to go.. cant for the life of me understand how any fan would want another year of him to be honest.. hes had time, hes had money, hes had his chance.. time to get a proven manager in that can not only attract top players but keep hold of the few we have before were a mid table team
ReplyDeleteWell, I did support Rodgers throughout as a fan should but after Madrid, Gerrard on the bench, and then the contract fail. Lets just say I started losing faith.
ReplyDeleteThe tactical fails, improper positioning of players, crazy subs, dodgy transfers, persistence with failing players, obvious shortcomings not being addressed, etc, etc....It's too much.
Hang on to the fact he did well last season for as long as possible. This article does really have strong points that you can't really argue against.
There's always the possibility of providing the right bunch of players and giving him one more go at the title but I wouldn't go for one more season thereafter unless we have progressed.
If we lose the next game and Saints and Spurs win, we will not even have Europa League. If we can't hold on to 5th place, he must be sacked. Two wins in the last 8 games is just embarassing. Leicester, a team once rooted to the bottom of the table, have won 6 in the same time period, using the same 3 at the back strategy as us. Klopp is apparently negotiating with Fenerbache and West Ham, if that's the case Liverpool have a hell of a chance to land him. I'm aware that Dortmund stunk this season, but at least when they turned things around they didn't slip up again like Liverpool have just done.
ReplyDeleteShould make a pole-
ReplyDeleteA: yes, sack him.
B: no, kill him.
We will. Fair play place.
ReplyDeleteWhy Robbie Fowler and recently Steven Gerrard are they backing him to stay? This post illustrates how perfect a failure we have been with Rodgers
ReplyDeleteGreat article and I fully agree with it. A lot of excuses have been made during Rodgers' tenure and I feel that there has been a lack of clarity and honesty coming from the club. Whenever we fail to sign a player, it is because of location or wages. And when the team fails, it is because Sturridge is injured or Suarez was not there. There is no accountability being taken which is very disappointing for me.
ReplyDeleteGive him one more year when there's a proper striker and a few good defenders
ReplyDeleteI highly doubt Klopp will go to the Turkish League. It would be a massive step backwards from where he is now. With all eyes being on Klopp now, I highly doubt he will go visit those who he has been approached by in their locations. Giving the media a run around?
ReplyDeleteSo he can by more attackers to play at RWB and midfielders in the defence and up top?
ReplyDeleteThat's the problem isn't it. Him and the transfer committee both have failed to get the proper striker and proper defender.
ReplyDeleteI choose B. Why? He keeps playing Johnson when it's clear Johnson is no longer a footballer
ReplyDeleteSACK HIM!
ReplyDeleteRodgers please go away! go! stop buying time with false hope! be true to yourself! face reality! you are not made for us! you will do much better with another team! it will be a win-win situation! for God's sake, stop sapping away whatever is left of our team!
ReplyDeleteFor ewes with short memories we were great last season played great and were great to watch.
ReplyDeleteRound hammer...?
ReplyDeleteDamn. West Ham and Everton have a shot too, so...
ReplyDeleteWhy damn?
ReplyDeleteSUAREZ man! SUAREZ did it!
ReplyDeletenope.
ReplyDeleteMy take is thsat although there are a few red herrings in there, and a couple of points repeated in a different way, the argument is still VERY strong about Rodgers' failure to win the big games. The ones that matter. Good example: The Utd game. Win it , instead of losing it, and we are 1 point behind Utd.
ReplyDeleteWe had the chance( yes I'm looking at you Markovic- what a rubbish pass), but we came up short, just as we did last season v Chelsea and this in 2 Cup semis
I think replacing him is a simple matter of who we would get instead. He has succeeded enough to argue for another year.
But he has also failed enough to argue that Klopp, Ancellotti or similar ( Nott your De Boers etc, majorly better not marginally)
would be a better option.
Voting without knowing who his replacement would be is too difficult for me. Abstaining.
.. fair enough suarez is like nitrous oxide but the car is still seriously quick.....it just needs decent petrol and a bit of tuning.....
ReplyDeleteeven without a licenced striker, the 'ain't gt no history' finished third and this year they won it! the performance of our team got closer and closer to mid table teams this year: win a streak of matches and then fall again in the abyss of mediocrity and that all under Rodgers!
ReplyDeleteSquare nail.
ReplyDeleteI totally blame BR for nearly winning the league last season. Bastard!!
ReplyDelete....fuel to the fire....
ReplyDelete...red rag to the bull....
..why are you prodding the snake Orme....why.......?
...rock and a hard place come to mind for me too.......
ReplyDeleteBR must go. He can't hold on to our best players in fact he don't know how to handle top players. He is good with average players that's y we sitting with average over payed players at the moment. Klopp must come in and take us back to the top.
ReplyDeleteSo we're back to, er, 'square' one.
ReplyDeleteSpot on!!!
ReplyDeleteGood article and even though i'm a supporter of Rodgers it does start to put questions in my head.
ReplyDeleteI have a problem with the article however...
You seem to write articles like this providing a one sided argument on a given subject then follow it up with a survey thus basically making people vote a certain way (e.g. this article creates an argument against Rodgers then not surprisingly most people have voted he needs replacing). A month after you will use these vote results to create another article or bring the results up. This doesn't seem like a fair way of doing it and will void the results somewhat.
I feel schozophrenic; I keep going through experiences of cold flushes with shivers down my spine interspersed with feelings of yogic calm....
ReplyDelete....the reasoning in some of the post cannot be argued but then alot of it can also be put down to extenuating circumstances beyond our outsider knowledge....
..add that to prissy, fragile player egos (its my birthday and no-one kissed me comes to mind).. and the conundrum continues...
....last year and the middle third of this year wasn't some astrological happening...BR was behind it....suarez's ghost didn't miraculously transcend onto the pitch and help us out for 13 odd games when we looked great...and after when we fuc*** it up against the enemy....well thats always gonna hurt, much more cos its them and much more cos it was fourth place at stake.....
.....but they spent flippin loads and had game changers on the bench and off it....all of them were in form and they had strikers....
....we've always been proud of the YNWA brand so why are we abandoning it now..?
BR is good and will go on from here and no doubt create a reputation for himself...he's got guts and a thick skin...
... were fifth, where we would have been placed given all parameters at the start of the season - we haven't over-produced and we haven't fought relegation either...yes I want more...but I can be patient cos if it clicks after the three years bedding in the its gonna click really big....
.....otherwise we start all over again....rebuilding is atht what we really want......?
Yeah a totem pole that we could tie him to and throw things, although I still think we should keep him unless...........
ReplyDeleteWell said , Who will replace BR .
ReplyDeleteLiverpool does not want to walk the same road as Newcastle , the fans called for Pardew to go and the owner obliged .
Ok I understand Rodgers is not massively popular right now but some of the points raised here are just ridiculous. I'll start by addressing these points one by one.
ReplyDelete1. Failure to deliver under pressure- This is a case of selective memory at its best. We've won several big games under Rodgers, Man utd at Old Trafford last season, Everton at Anfield last season, manchester city at anfield last season ( a game which secured champions league for the first time in years) and man city at anfield this season. Sure we did not turn up for some games and that is on the manager but we have delivered some pretty big performances under Rodgers.
2. Failure to rally troops - Tactics and injuries have been liverpool's problem this season not motivation. I've never watched a match this season where I felt the players had down tools, sure they may make mistakes and look a little lost but the motivation has always been there!
3. Failure to deliver in the transfer market - Ok I'll give you that one, Rodgers record in the transfer market leaves a lot to be desired.
4. Failure to attract top players - i don't know why this is even a thing. The influence of a manager in attracting players is little to insignificant! Top players move to clubs that will offer them money and a chance for trophies. No player will move to a club that offers a smaller salary than the competition just for the chance of playing under a certain manager.
5. Failure to stick with a formation - Personally I like a manager who can change with circumstances. Most of our formation changes this season have been due to injuries or players losing form. Those are the kind of problems a manager is paid to solve and for the most part BR has adapted well.
This season we have conceded 42 goals, only 4 more than man city in second but have scored 30 less goals. That have been our problem, buying a decent striker will solve most of that. We are 5th in the league, not midtable, not facing relegation, we are 5th! People saying we DESERVE to be higher up are just deluding themselves. We are exactly where we deserve to be based on wages on spending power.
This post is like puttin all my feelings about rodgers in one single article...outstanding post..atleast fans will wake up after seeing this and i wish owners will,most importantly
ReplyDeleteAh but Newcastle got the 'best manager in Premier League' according to a John somebody or other.
ReplyDeleteClearly not aware of what Suarez is doing at Barcsa ?
ReplyDeleteMaybe he will be at Liverpool next year !
ReplyDelete115 or something goals between Suarez, Messi and Neymar highest goal tally by a trio in Barca's history
ReplyDeleteStranger things!
ReplyDeleteNope it was all BR but when we loose it's all because of players
ReplyDeleteOk Critam.
ReplyDeleteIf it was the player(s) that are responsible for last year, how come the players are suddenly not responsible for failing this year. Now you decide it's the manager.
Garbage. The manager takes ultimate responsibility for both, so even if you want him out now, give him credit for when it went well not just brickbats when it goes wrong..
Phew just as well you didn't mean that!
ReplyDeleteWhat cannt Klopp or Rafa do that BR can? In fact if we get Klopp we wont be changing our style of play cauz even he likes to have possession and good attacking football. And both of them would do a lot better in Cl.
ReplyDeleteThere's an easier way to say that.
ReplyDeleteNot having we was a one man team last year, football is eleven players all pulling together. Yeah Suarez had a great season but so did Sturridge, scoring 20+ goals. Coutinho did well, Sterling came in and contributed and Henderson had a good season. It makes my blood boil when people say we was a one man team. People used to say we only had two decent players a couple of years ago in Gerrard and Torres, then we lost Alonso and Mascharano then all of a sudden people just relised we was actually a decent team.
ReplyDeleteGood point! And, in Klopp's defence, last season and this season he had almost his entire first team injured. Yet he still managed to salvage something on both occasions.
ReplyDeleteAt one period of time 8 of the first 11 were injured.
ReplyDeleteGreat summation, saved me the trouble. I'll add that the last top player we signed was way back in 2007/8 with Mascherano. We haven't been able to sign them for a long long time in any quantity for way longer than BR's reign. Alonso, Torres and the like weren't absolute top drawer when we signed them either, and we had years of CL behind us to attract them, not just 1 season.
ReplyDeleteAnd the reason Man Utd/City can attract players is simple. Titles, (recent ones) and Wages!! BIG wages. Rooney on £300k pw. Falcao on £250 with Di Maria. God knows what Aguero gets...
doesn't that mean his squad was inadequate after several years too?
ReplyDeleteAnd he hasn't won anything yet. so salvage? Still to be decided...
Not a balanced article in my view. This season has been frustrating to put it mildly, and yes Brendan Rodgers has been culpable with some of the decisions he has made, in fact some formations, selections, and tactics have been infuriating and hard to fathom. That all said I still remind myself of the football I had the privilege to witness in the 13/14 season (please don't be petty minded and say it was all because of Suarez). This was a style that hadn't been seen at Anfield since the halcyon days of KD's first reign. So for this and this alone I am most definitely in the Rodgers to stay camp.
ReplyDeleteBut he has won trophies and made a CL final. We need managers who have won trophies.
ReplyDeleteA lot of people are fleeing this camp, but I'll stay here and eat their food and drink their whiskey with you. Cheers.
ReplyDeleteyes, but the point was that his previous success was not replicated this year in a similar way to BR
ReplyDeleteAll managers who have won trophies were once trophy-less managers.
ReplyDeleteI'd rather we don't play Europa League.
ReplyDeleteWithout knowing who will replace him, I tend to stick with Rodgers.
ReplyDeleteFunny how fast things can change in one year. From hero to zero.
I love my club and it is just not the Liverpool way to burn our manager after he finished 2nd last season and while we still sitting in 5th place.
I agree with all the criticism and I do acknowledge there is something clearly wrong with our transfer policy, but still is a new manager the solution? A new manager is a guarantee for another season of transition...
I have to warn you that there is a lock on my drinks cabinet, but I will raise a glass with you. Cheers
ReplyDeleteBR is the second joint longest manager in PL....He is the first manager who hasnt won trophy in his first 3 years.....Mate I am sorry this is Liverpool Football Club and we are not here to give a rookie manager a learning experience.
ReplyDeleteThat's fine. I won't use my lock-picking skills until I run out of that which was left behind by the Short Term Memory Gang.
ReplyDeleteI was looking for the marquee but there doesn't seem to be one
ReplyDeleteWhy ???
ReplyDeleteTotally agree from start to finish
ReplyDeleteWell the poll says 77 percent say no to BR.......glad people have finally woke up
ReplyDeleteThe foolish majority;) The majority of the people is often a pretty bad sign...
ReplyDeleteSuarez made them good !
ReplyDeleteyeah whatever
ReplyDelete"Much like Mancini and Pellegrini at Man City, Liverpool need a manager
ReplyDeletewho can utilise those opportunities, and deliver what the likes of
Ranieri, Grant and Scolari could not: consistent success". Hard to let this go without pointing out the obvious flaws in the argument already. Soz Eric. I will continue reading despite my exasperation.
Johnson helped him don't forget
ReplyDeleteI'm only joking... I was thinking in a more political sense but how many participants?
ReplyDeleteGood at making tents at night/early morning, not that I want you to find it.
ReplyDeleteNot really. Most is easy to argue against but there are certainly some good points.
ReplyDeleteJamie should have shown the no of voters
ReplyDeleteShall we have an abstaining vote?
ReplyDeleteClearly not aware that Suarez was at the club a decent period before we had a tilt at title?
ReplyDeleteReally? Higher than Eto, Henry and Messi?
ReplyDeleteThats some doing.
Absolutely.
ReplyDeleteYup atleast their 75m signing is better that Madrid's Bale
ReplyDeleteMessi and Neymar Pah! it was all down to Suarez
ReplyDeleteThey took it with them when they abandoned camp.
ReplyDeleteIt used to say We're Gonna Win The League, but apparently overnight they changed it to #RodgersOut and only left us with a square hole and a square peg atop which the sign used to rest.
We'll keep the fire burning for you.
1. Failure to deliver under pressure:
ReplyDeleteYou neglected the amazing form prior to the Chelsea game, including a huge win over Man City in the weeks prior.
2. Failure in the transfer market
You have a point there, however you neglect to mention the wages offered. You only mention the transfer fees.
3. Failure to attract top talent
You neglected to mention the wages
The other points you raised all have validity.
Finally, as it relates to your verdict, the one thing to keep in mind is who will be a replacement that anyone could say is a better manager that is realistically available. Outside of Klopp or maybe de Boer, I'm not sure there's really a better realistic alternative at this point.
Man hats of to you people for being backing BR and being funny most of the time......I am not joking......I wish I could be like you but I cannt
ReplyDeleteWell it's more of a bivouac than a marquee now. The marquee had to be sold.
ReplyDeletePlus everyone forgets that Suarez missed the first month and a half of the season due to suspension
ReplyDeleteDe Boer? De Boer is one overrated manager. This season Ajax had finally some competition and they were awful almost the whole season. De Boer is definitely not the answer. Klopp and Ancelotti should be the only candidates if they are planning to sack our manager.
ReplyDeleteWhy?
ReplyDeleteWe had at least 4 opportunities to close the gap to United in the last 12 games. Inexplicably players and management who want play in CL didn't want to work enough or play smart enough to be there. Everyone has to take some of the blame. Only a few players can say they had a decent season. The one thing I would definitely blame BR for is playing people out of position because of his inability to buy the right players. One example - For a long time people on this forum and others have been saying we need to buy a decent DM (and there many we could have got). Square pegs for round holes!, buying players with a history of injuries. Not buying players who would have been needed this campaign (remy, bony), public contract negotiations all show how poorly run certain parts of LFC are.
ReplyDeleteI wouldn't go so far as to say overrated.
ReplyDeleteBut I don't believe anyone would categorically say that he's a better manager than Rodgers.
..I'm not fleeing Bob....and not just cos of the delicious whiskey... :-)
ReplyDeleteYou wouldn't want to be like me it's hell being right all the time ......;-)
ReplyDeleteI had a fevered dream we signed Bale though which would be good.
ReplyDeleteI suppose I'd better stay then too just so you don't talk about me behind my back
ReplyDeleteI'm not sure if I want to vote. Can I abstain?
ReplyDeleteIt's the club as a whole deserves some criticism there.
ReplyDelete3 wins in the last 10 games
ReplyDeleteI'm not sure. Lets vote on that.
ReplyDeleteI don't worry about what others say and agree wholeheartedly...we have always punched above our weight and we will find that again...I believe sooner than later......
ReplyDelete...also very well put about the recent, or lackthereof, of high worth players....although the word deluded has been put in the 'sin-box' by some of us I'll use it anyway; your display of fact will hopefully put the deluded in some light as to what is clearly something to look at as a whole arther than the blinkered microscope anger/frustration tends to bring
hahaaha...:-)
ReplyDelete..I love rafa....but what about aquilani.....
ReplyDeleteWouldn't be my choice of manager
ReplyDeleteMan U buy players like that all teh time...they just remidy it buy chucking more money at it....we get exposed and BR gets hung out to dry cos he's got to cope instead......
ReplyDeleteOr Jonhson? Or The whole Keane thing? No one is perfect.
ReplyDeleteagree...aquilani would only just hobble to the post match interview and then blame injury if he couldn't make it....
ReplyDelete...Barcelona did it with pep guardiola....just sayin'......
ReplyDeleteHopefully it happens fingers crossed.
ReplyDeleteGood point, but Guardiola was also nurtured into that role within the club; much like Luis Enrique currently. Knowing the club (with great traditions) thoroughly can be a huge advantage and BR has not had that advantage.
ReplyDeleteHe won treble in his first season just sayin
ReplyDeleteAll great points.
ReplyDeleteFor me, BR really only has 2 major weaknesses: Tactical naivety in pressure situations, and inadequacy in the transfer market.
But how can you sack the tactical genius?
ReplyDeleteHahaha.
ReplyDeleteWith code as my chief navigator there is not much chance of me finding anything
ReplyDeleteI completely agree with you!
ReplyDeleteI'm still on my opinion that he deserves one toe two more years, as long as he can manage his transfer strategy, just find 1 or 2 suitable player is enough to deliver success, last year we only losing Suarez and all went horribly wrong with him in transfer market, that's his only mistake......
ReplyDelete...the point is he was still 'in training' I thought you implied 'big teams' with 'big aspirations' don't allow managers to train/ learn on the job.....?
ReplyDelete...just sayin'.....
'Prodding the snake'? Is this a euphemism?
ReplyDeleteNope I didnt imply that I was happy when we got BR but he has failed to deliver and I am sure Barca would have sacked Guardiola if he turned out to be like BR
ReplyDeleteI never want to see a manager sacked but like with Rafa and Houllier, when you know we are going nowhere then unfortunately there is no other choice but to take off the rose tinted spectacles.
ReplyDelete...ash why oh why insist on all these big words....?
ReplyDelete...don't you know I have trouble enough with the little ones....:-)
Allowing for the normal margin for error it's just too close to call at this stage
ReplyDeleteWe could, but I guess we go for quantity over quality over recent seasons.
ReplyDeleteUnrealistic expectations.
ReplyDeleteMate, while comparisons with Man Utd are fine, the other side of the coin should also be looked. How many clubs in Europe, not just the PL, in Europe can afford to spend 45 mil on Lallana and Lovren. Not many and in that we should look at the magnitude of our spending. It is indeed a lot of money no matter how much Utd or any other team spent.
ReplyDeleteThe point is even if a new manager were to come in, say, Klopp, would FSG give him any money to spend after such an overhaul last summer.
ReplyDeleteRodgers does not even know what style of football he wants the team to follow on the pitch after 3 seasons. Give him more time?
ReplyDeleteUnder Hodgson LFC was 6th when he got sacked and that was at a stage when the club was in complete turmoil. He had pennies to spend too, the club had a woeful season in Rafa's final season. Hodgson had it far worse than even Kenny did.
Sorry, but if this was Rodgers first season then by all means give him another season. He has spent well over £200m and we are 1 point better off with one game remaining compared to his first season.
We may as well bring Hodgson back.
Rodgers does not even know what style of football he wants the team to follow on the pitch after 3 seasons. Give him more time?
ReplyDeleteUnder Hodgson LFC was 6th when he got sacked and that was at a stage when the club was in mess at that stage. He had pennies to spend too, the club had a disastrous season in Rafa's final season. Hodgson had it far worse than even Kenny did.
Sorry, but if this was Rodgers first season then by all means give him another season. He has spent well over £200m and we are 1 point better off with one game remaining compared to his first season.
We may as well bring Hodgson back.
Rodgers does not even know what style of football he wants the team to follow on the pitch after 3 seasons. Give him more time?
ReplyDeleteUnder Hodgson LFC was 6th when he got sacked and that was at a stage when the club was in mess at that stage. He had very little to spend too, the club had a disastrous season in Rafa's final season. Hodgson had it far worse than even Kenny did.
Sorry, but if this was Rodgers first season then by all means give him another season. He has spent well over £200m and we are 1 point better off with one game remaining compared to his first season.
We may as well bring Hodgson back.
Yeah and don't forget the tactical vote...;-)
ReplyDeleteFrank De Boer has not had over £200m to spend has he?
ReplyDeleteFrank De Boer works under a DOF, he is a coach and a very good one of that. If he had to come here then he will work under somebody again.
ReplyDeleteRodgers quite simply is out of his depth to manage a club as big as this. Maybe he will do better as a coach. If Rodgers leaves LFC he most definitely ain't going to get a job at one of the big boys.
Because I don't agree my logic is not ok? Maybe there is something wrong with your loyalty...
ReplyDeleteThe majority of lemmings fall over cliffs.......,
ReplyDeleteI thought maybe you could do me the honour...
ReplyDeleteTrue but if that is your argument we could replace Rodgers with practically anybody...
ReplyDeleteBig Sam will be even an upgrade. Are you going to put your Rodgers Out'-campaign on hold if Rodgers remains our manager?
Emery, Bielsa, Rijkaard, Cocu, Galtier, Deschamps, Blanc even Villas Boas.
ReplyDeleteThe question should be, why stick with Rodgers when there are many more options than I have mentioned. Why stick with him when we are on a road to nowhere?
Nah. Wouldn't want to take anything away from you ;-)
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