Over the last couple of years, Liverpool have been constantly linked with a move for Barcelona star Pedro, and with new reports this week suggest that Barcelona and Liverpool are in contact over a possible summer transfer.
Liverpool were last linked with Pedro in February, and according to The Mirror today:
* Barcelona have 'told' Liverpool and Arsenal that Pedro is for sale if they meet the club's asking price of €20m.
When asked in February about his future, Pedro told reporters:
"The truth is that it's complicated for those of us who play less, but when I go out [to play], I always give it all, the best of me. It's my way of being; I never give up"
Then, in March, Pedro seemed resigned to the possibility of moving on in the summer:
"For the whole season I have had very few chances. I am going through a difficult moment, and I will decide on my future at the end of the season"
What would Pedro - described this month by Luis Enrique as a player with 'special' qualities - bring to the Liverpool team? In a recent interview, the forward outlined what he perceives his role to be for Barcelona. He told reporters:
"My job in the team is to free up space on the pitch for my teammates, to build moves, to turn certain episodes into goalscoring chances or to get assists for teammates in better positions. These are my responsibilities during the game. Everything I do must benefit the team."
Despite the ridiculous competition at Barca for attacking places, Pedro's stats over the last few years are excellent:
* 2014-15: 10 goals/6 assists in 37 apps.
* 2013-14: 20 goals/10 assists in 52 apps.
* 2012-13: 10 goals/7 assists in 48 apps.
* 2011-12: 13 goals/6 assists in 51 apps.
* 2010-11: 22 goals/8 assists in 52 apps.
* 2009-10: 22 goals/4 assists in 50 apps.
Liverpool fans certainly hold Pedro in high regard. Prior to the Adam Lallana signing, I asked fans who they'd rather see LFC sign: Pedro or Lallana.
* 17100 visitors (approx) participated in the poll.
* A gigantic 80% of voters chose Pedro over Lallana.
That's a quite staggering vote of confidence in Pedro, but it's hardly surprising given the Spaniard's experience and pedigree. I also voted in favour of Pedro, for the following reasons:
* Consistent experience at the highest levels of the game, including copious European/international experience.
* Played alongside some of the world's best players for years, including Messi, Xavi, and Iniesta.
* A winner, who's won practically every trophy in the game, and that kind of experience could be invaluable for Liverpool. The Reds lacked experience in the final stages of last season, and that arguably contributed to losing the title.
* Pedro is the kind of player who'll come in and give the entire club a lift. He's a marquee signing with an aura about him.
This rumour seems like it's been around forever, yet Pedro is still at Barcelona, and if he decides to leave in the summer, I can't see him ending up at Liverpool, especially if the club fails to qualify for the Champions League.
With Steven Gerrard leaving, there will also be a distinct lack of world-renowned players at Anfield, and that may make it harder than it is already to attract Europe's elite.
It's not a problem, though - Liverpool will reportedly have the genius of James Friggin' Milner in the squad next season, so further reinforcements are not even needed.
With Galacticos like Milner in the team, who needs Pedro?
Author: Jaimie K
Liverpool were last linked with Pedro in February, and according to The Mirror today:
* Barcelona have 'told' Liverpool and Arsenal that Pedro is for sale if they meet the club's asking price of €20m.
When asked in February about his future, Pedro told reporters:
"The truth is that it's complicated for those of us who play less, but when I go out [to play], I always give it all, the best of me. It's my way of being; I never give up"
Then, in March, Pedro seemed resigned to the possibility of moving on in the summer:
"For the whole season I have had very few chances. I am going through a difficult moment, and I will decide on my future at the end of the season"
What would Pedro - described this month by Luis Enrique as a player with 'special' qualities - bring to the Liverpool team? In a recent interview, the forward outlined what he perceives his role to be for Barcelona. He told reporters:
"My job in the team is to free up space on the pitch for my teammates, to build moves, to turn certain episodes into goalscoring chances or to get assists for teammates in better positions. These are my responsibilities during the game. Everything I do must benefit the team."
Despite the ridiculous competition at Barca for attacking places, Pedro's stats over the last few years are excellent:
* 2014-15: 10 goals/6 assists in 37 apps.
* 2013-14: 20 goals/10 assists in 52 apps.
* 2012-13: 10 goals/7 assists in 48 apps.
* 2011-12: 13 goals/6 assists in 51 apps.
* 2010-11: 22 goals/8 assists in 52 apps.
* 2009-10: 22 goals/4 assists in 50 apps.
Liverpool fans certainly hold Pedro in high regard. Prior to the Adam Lallana signing, I asked fans who they'd rather see LFC sign: Pedro or Lallana.
* 17100 visitors (approx) participated in the poll.
* A gigantic 80% of voters chose Pedro over Lallana.
That's a quite staggering vote of confidence in Pedro, but it's hardly surprising given the Spaniard's experience and pedigree. I also voted in favour of Pedro, for the following reasons:
* Consistent experience at the highest levels of the game, including copious European/international experience.
* Played alongside some of the world's best players for years, including Messi, Xavi, and Iniesta.
* A winner, who's won practically every trophy in the game, and that kind of experience could be invaluable for Liverpool. The Reds lacked experience in the final stages of last season, and that arguably contributed to losing the title.
* Pedro is the kind of player who'll come in and give the entire club a lift. He's a marquee signing with an aura about him.
This rumour seems like it's been around forever, yet Pedro is still at Barcelona, and if he decides to leave in the summer, I can't see him ending up at Liverpool, especially if the club fails to qualify for the Champions League.
With Steven Gerrard leaving, there will also be a distinct lack of world-renowned players at Anfield, and that may make it harder than it is already to attract Europe's elite.
It's not a problem, though - Liverpool will reportedly have the genius of James Friggin' Milner in the squad next season, so further reinforcements are not even needed.
With Galacticos like Milner in the team, who needs Pedro?
Author: Jaimie K
Pedro = instant upgrade. In Brod's 4-3-3 he can play the wide forward position and be amongst the goals.
ReplyDeleteAren't getting tired of your misdirected pessimism by now? If a player is a marquee signing with impressive stats you champion him, but if he takes a while to adjust or doesn't hit the ground running he is a waste of money and a flop. If Milner is available on a free why not have both him and Pedro? They both add different elements to the team, and if most world beaters are overpriced what's the harm in a reliable workhorse like Milner on playing behind are more attacking player like Pedro.
ReplyDelete'critical realism' is just a cop out word for pessimism.
ReplyDeleteNot gonna happen if we aren't in the champions league. This is why so much tests on the next few games. Would love to see pedro at Anfield, but just can't see it happening
ReplyDeleteI would sign him rather then Lallana anytime, only average manager would feel awe over Lallana and he's too fragile.
ReplyDeleteThen sign him.
ReplyDeleteSlightly off the topic ,
ReplyDeleteJust seen a lists of the most expensive free bee's available this summer transfer window .
Neto
Dani Alves
Andrea Ranocchia
Christopher Samba
Maxi Pereira
Sami Khedira
Bryan Ruiz
James Milner
Konoplyanka
Andre Ayew
Andre Pierre Gignac
All available for free !!
If we finish out of top 4. No BR, no Pedro.
ReplyDeleteNo thanks. Would rather keep Sterling.
ReplyDeleteSterling vs Pedro (League only)
ReplyDeleteThats all ok but what if Sterling leaves and after all this transfer is only likely in my view if he does.
ReplyDeleteA lot of talk about money but not much thought as to the fact he may just want to leave.
Sterling is currently contracted to the club until 2017. Right now he cannot go anywhere. Things will be revealed at the start of next season.
ReplyDeleteLet's not forget that Sterling at this point is being influenced by the club, his agent and most likely his family too. Maybe he is taking his time and there is nothing wrong or unusual about that.
Yeah my points still valid though there will be no money for Pedro unless they sell Sterling anyway too many other pressing needs.
ReplyDeleteI would save my money on him anyway and get Konoplyanka on a free.
I will be very surprised if we do not go back for Konoplyanka. There is going to be loads of competition for his signature though so any team offering CL will most likely beat us to it.
ReplyDeleteYes thats likely lets hope Liverpools the club he really wants to come to.
ReplyDeleteThe only other way we are going to attract better quality players is with to have someone at the helm with pedigree.
ReplyDeleteI posted in the previous thread that Rodgers has and will not be able to attract the best of the best. Any club can go and sign young talented players but with Rodgers we will struggle to sign top quality.
Yeah maybe but you know Logan a lot them like that big pay cheque and 1 big problem we face is our wage structure too.
ReplyDeleteThis kind of reminds me of Arsenal in years gone by sure they got some great cheapies but a lot of quality players by passed.
Arsenal are still signing quality players irrespective of their situation. They might not have huge amounts of success in recent years but they are consistently in the CL.
ReplyDeleteSanchez might have preferred London but there is no doubt he would have known about Wenger and probably never even knew who Rodgers was and most probably did not even take the time to ask about him either.
Yeah they are now Ozil and Sanchez but it wasnt always like that for them and C.L now is much harder to achieve now than in years gone by too.
ReplyDeleteI disagree, every season Wenger has been at Arsenal he has signed at least one quality player. When it comes to spending money wisely and finding talent there are not many who come close to Wenger.
ReplyDeleteI never said he didnt but they werent expensive players and you cant disagree that C.L is easier than before Chelsea City and soon United will become ever present teams.
ReplyDeleteIf you read what i wrote before mentioning great cheapies u may not have made that comment.
"Yeah they are now Ozil and Sanchez but it wasnt always like that for them"
ReplyDeleteThat is what I disagreed with and is what I based my comment on.
Ozil and Sanchez were expensive is what im getting at.
ReplyDeleteBut they were able to attract them why? Would either Ozil or Sanchez be interested in Rodgers?
ReplyDeleteOne thing for certain Logan they may be they may not but they money always and i mean always turns heads.
ReplyDeleteAlways make me laugh when people say players would not know who the manager is. I don't even play football and i know who the managers are of the bigger sides in Spain, Italy etc. The majority of footballers watch alot of football from other leagues and would know all about managers of the top clubs.
ReplyDeleteRodgers isn't going anywhere, top 4 or not.
ReplyDeleteLFC did not even get a chance to speak to Sanchez. He was not interested.
ReplyDeleteLet's say Wenger was in charge at LFC, do you think we would have had a better chance to sign Sanchez?
Logan his agent would have still got an offer he would have given it some thought that im sure of.
ReplyDeleteYou did not answer the question about Wenger.
ReplyDeleteNo such thing as free, most will require massive singing on fee's and wages. You end up paying one way or another.
ReplyDeleteRemember Milan Jovanović, free transfer but was costing us 120k per week as his signing on fee got bundled in with his wages.
No Sanchez wanted to live in London so even Spurs were probably more chance if they tried.
ReplyDeletedon't think so logan.
ReplyDeleteLondon is a major factor when it comes to attracting foreign players, that's why Arsenal will always get the nod
I did not use it as fact. That is why I said 'probably'.
ReplyDeleteIrrespective, you put Wenger and Rodgers alongside each other in a room full of the best players in the world. Who will they chose to work under? It is not rocket science.
That is a different argument who would they choose. The majority of players would know exactly who Rodgers is, saying they don't is just the rhetoric that is banded about in articles and comments on here.
ReplyDeleteIt has been widely reported that Sanchez wife wanted to move to London hasn't it?
ReplyDeleteIt was Rodgers who stated that Sanchez chose London over Liverpool.
ReplyDeleteSanchez also spoke about Wenger in his first interview in being one of the reasons why he went there.
For most players with a family location will be an important factor but playing under Wenger, for a club that is consistently in the CL vs a club that has a inexperienced manager and gone missing from the CL? The player needs to be happy with what is offered to him too and obviously Arsenal as a club was a far more attractive proposition.
20 million no thanks Barcelona are always trying to screw other clubs Pedro contract is up at the end of next season i wait a lot depends on the Sterling situation
ReplyDeleteIt is not a different argument. It is the same as saying put Sanchez in a room with Wenger and Rodgers in front of him.
ReplyDeleteWho is he going to choose?
It doesnt work like that you know it.
ReplyDeleteSanchez stated it himself that London was the main reason you obviously never read the interview.
ReplyDeleteAll Sanchez said is he is discovering the new city. He mentioned nothing that London was his preferred destination unless you can provide the quote where he said so.
ReplyDeleteOf course it doesn't but if it had to then Rodgers will be snubbed when coming up against Wenger. That is all I am saying.
ReplyDeleteLoges i am not going to go back that far and find it but he did state that London was a major factor.
ReplyDeleteA lot of the other dross was to keep the Arsenal fans happy.
Oh no i put certain scenarios similarly to you to prove a point you wouldnt entertain the thought neither shall i.
ReplyDeleteEasy way out. You cannot sate something as a fact and then when I ask you to provide proof tell me to go look for it. I know what he said.
ReplyDeleteIt is for you to prove that what you have said is correct.
I dont believe u about Rodgers statement the fact Liverpool never contacted Sanchez proof please.
ReplyDeleteWe contacted his agent. There is info on us speaking directly with the player.
ReplyDeleteWhy are you avoiding my post?
No avoiding posts here Logan always right so no probs.
ReplyDeleteThat is a problem as you have to be able to back up your statements. I have, you have not.
ReplyDeleteYou're right in a lot of what you say Logan but that is why our transfer policy at the club is (predominantly) buy young and develop. You speak about getting some big name manager but how many big name managers would be prepared to work under FSG's conditions? Do you think Ancellotti would have done better with this squad this season and be developing our young players the way Rodgers is? Mourinho? No way. These are managers who work with star players and go to clubs with huge budgets.
ReplyDeleteIt's harder to get success the way we're trying to do it and those top level managers wouldn't be interested in working with a lot of potential.
Ultimately, the only way to attract star players is to consistently qualify for the champions league and/or pay massive wages. At this point in time we can't offer either of this things therefore we are at a distinct disadvantage compared to the current teams occupying the top 4. Therefore a little patience is needed as we have to build a squad capable of challenging consistently year upon year but that's why we can't afford to lose the likes of Sterling
The Whole Argument about BR vs AW is Bull..please tell me you considered the fact that at some point AW was "unknown" too! Look what BR accomplished last season, ALMOST winning the title so soon after becoming manager..i think the world took note in awe of what he was doing. The fact that BR is young gives us optimism for even better improvement as he too gains experience. And in time he will attract the best of players. Have faith.
ReplyDeleteYou said that he wouldn't even know who Rodgers was. You are talking rubbish on that point as he clearly would have that is the point i was making not about choosing one or other.
ReplyDeleteYouve backed them up with nothing what are you on about and you know you are wrong look at Der BaumManns quote he nailed it u cant accept reality get off the whatever your smoking mate.
ReplyDeleteYeah, like I said, easy way out.
ReplyDeleteYou will find info on google about us speaking to his agent however you will not find info abut LFC speaking directly to the player.
I asked you to provide proof of Sanchez saying HE chose Arsenal because of London. There is nothing, no quotes from him. Show me and then we can have this discussion again.
Why would they say what theyve said to the player or what they have really said to his agent its all done in private.
ReplyDeleteAgain, I did not state it as a fact. I said 'probably'.
ReplyDeleteThere is a difference so you reply quite simply means nothing.
The only thing is he hasnt been right about nothing and changes his tune all the time .
ReplyDeleteExactly mate. Not to mention they'll have friends and international team mates playing in matches. For example, Neymar and Coutinho are meant to be good friends so Neymar will keep tabs on how he's doing no doubt. I would if my mates were playing...
ReplyDeleteI did not say anything about what was said about Sanchez. I said that you can find info about us making contact with his agent but there is no info available of us speaking directly with the player so not sure what you are getting at.
ReplyDeleteWe have heard this all before. Pete was always one of accusing me of the same.
ReplyDeleteYou know they would have spoken to him personally and you also know too Arsenal had a lot of spanish speaking players Liverpool had none at the time but no mention of that either.
ReplyDeleteWe did not speak to Sanchez directly. There is no proof to be found anywhere of this.
ReplyDeleteIf you have the proof then either provide the proof. Simple.
Well they went to Barcelona to offer Suarez in the deal you prove he refused to talk to them what im saying makes more sense.
ReplyDeleteAlso Loges what about the spanish speaking contingent at Arsenal i hear nothing yet about that.
Avoiding the facts and twisting you should go into politics.
Pete was usually right.
ReplyDeleteRodgers can speak Spanish? Seriously, trying to dig a olympic size pool with a spade.
ReplyDeleteOf course he was. Why would you disagree?
ReplyDelete1 person so hes going to hang out with the manager yeah right when Arsenal have at least 5 players who speak it.
ReplyDeleteWenger also speaks Spanish. What does that have to do with the price of eggs?
ReplyDeleteNothing like a spanish omelette of you i say and if you spent more time talking to people you may realize its really good to have a lot around who can speak the same language they are people who can help you settle in foreign environment and provide comradeship.
ReplyDeleteI see you still cannot provide any proof of where Sanchez said that he prefers London.
ReplyDeleteYou keep on avoiding it and then bring things in like mates who can speak Spanish etc.
Enrique, Moreno, Manquillo, Suso, Coutinho and even reckon Lucas speaks Spanish.
Next point to avoid finding proof of what you claimed?
Jeez, Sanchez wanted to live in London, this is an irrefutable fact, and that is one of the major reasons he chose Arsenal over Liverpool. Rodgers himself even confirmed this:
ReplyDelete"Sanchez was one where geography dictated where he wanted to go, simple as that. It wasn’t a lack of ambition. The player and his family simply wanted to choose to live where they did. He’s a fantastic player...but it was not to be".
End of story.
This is an example of a 150,000 pound per week player (though I'm still inclined to suggest he gets an actual job). Someone who has produced top-shelf goods in an excellent league for a sustained period. Maybe Sterling will get there one day. If he does, pay him his due.
ReplyDeleteI understand he's a Liverpool fan so we'd really have to actively screw it up to screw it up.
ReplyDeleteBut Greg said ***Sanchez*** stated he wanted to live in London which there is no proof of and he has still failed to provide any quotesfrom the horses mouth.
ReplyDeleteWhy would Rodgers lie when he said Balotelli was never going to be signed by LFC? Cough cough.
I said in a previous comment on this very thread that Sanchez may have preferred London but would not have been the only reason why he moved there. Arsenal as a club will be a much more attractive proposition irrespective of location and they sign at least one top player every season.
AW also signed Walcott, Ramsey,Bergkamp, Henry, Fabregas, Nasri, Pires, Viera these are just off the top of my head and I know he had flops in transfer market too
ReplyDeleteBrick wall mate. I have said something similar in the past and he changed subject.
ReplyDeleteWalcott, Ramsey and Fabregas were signed as kids. We don't know who of our youngsters could turn out to be such. Henry was still relatively young. He had gotten some note (perhaps like Markovic) in that he was said to be an up and coming. Non of those players were considered world class before they joined Arsenal.
ReplyDeleteObviously mate. It is a nonsense comment I have heard before form Rodgers out people. Logan only started parroting it this season.
ReplyDeleteWhy would you presume he wouldn't know him? Why probably? It makes no sense to suggest a player like Sanchez would not know who Rodgers was or about Liverpool last season, people over here raving about Atheltico and Simeone exactly the same as Rodgers and Liverpool. You used 'probably' as you knows its incorrect but still want to use it as a stick to bash BR.
ReplyDeleteDavid Dein was a huge factor in signing the likes of Bergkemp and Henry, Fabregas et al came through their academy so that's more to do with scouts than the first team manager
ReplyDeleteHim and Milner make perfect sense to me.. Though I don't actually like Pedro, but someone as creative..
ReplyDeleteManquillo Moreno a month after he was signed so not them, the Brazilians speak Portuguese Suso gone prove Johnson speaks Spanish i dont believe you you i ask for proof, provide none dont speak to me you hypocrite theres nothing worse and you are full of it and not real clever cletus.
ReplyDeleteLogan everything you write has a get rid of Rodgers over tone everyone is sick of it and i am sick of it and sick of your hypocrisy and single mindedness.
ReplyDelete"I've got a house in Spain so I like to try to make the effort and blend in a little bit, if possible," Johnson told Liverpoolfcdotcom
ReplyDeleteGoogle the quote if you do not believe me about Johnson.
Suso was still here at the start of last season. Manquillo and Moreno would have joined irrespective. We signed them did we not?
'We always communicate on the pitch in Spanish, he speaks Spanish and I understand it. I spent six months in Spain so can get by quite well with it. It is not only him. The other players are always trying to help me get better.
The above is a direct quote from none other than Coutinho. Again go google it.
BS eh?
There are Spanish speaking players at at the club so the Arsenal have Spanish speaking players excuse does not wash.
Hypocrisy? Maybe you need to go read the definition of the word?
ReplyDeleteAlready did slow mo
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