6 Aug 2014

Great News: 'Amazing' star with Suarez-like stats can leave for £20m. Do it, Brendan

Marco Reus to Liverpool? Realistically, it's a wildly improbable transfer, but many LFC fans (myself included) still retain a smidgen of hope that Liverpool will somehow be able to pull off a deal. Recent reports suggest that the Reds are favourites to sign the 'amazing' German maestro, and it now transpires that he's available for a (comparatively) knock-down fee.

Over the weekend, Sky Sports claimed that:

"Liverpool have been trimmed from 11/8 to 6/5 favourites to sign Marco Reus after a handful of big bets today.

"Man United are now out to 8/1 [with] Bayern at 16/1"


Until this week, Reus was believed to have a €35m buyout clause in his contract, but according to Bayern Munich Chief Karl-Heinz Rummenigge, the actual buyout figure is €25m (£20m), which is eminently affordable for a host of clubs, including Liverpool.

Clearly, if the Reds really want Reus, then Rodgers has a great opportunity here to activate the release clause, and, at the very least, make a strong attempt to sign one of Europe's most coveted players.

Of course, as the Arsenal/Suarez debacle proved, it's not as easy as that. Even if Liverpool activate the clause, Dortmund can still put the stoppers on the deal, and if Reus himself doesn't want the transfer, then it's dead in the water anyway.

There's no point pursuing Reus, though, unless Rodgers takes personal charge of the transfer. Liverpool's usual tactic of sending an unknown accountant to seal the deal is just not going to cut it, and a history of failed attempts to sign big-name stars shows that the Reds need a different approach.

As such, if the club submits an offer to activate the release clause, Rodgers should get on a plane, fly to Germany, and do his best to convince Reus to sign for Liverpool. The deal may still fail, but with such a fantastic opportunity on the table, it has to be worth a try.

Like many Reds fans, Anfield legend Jamie Carragher certainly wants to see Reus at Anfield, and when asked about the deal recently, he enthused:

“I’d love LFC to sign Reus. [He's a ] great player, and would be one of the best players in the Premier League.”

Reus's stats add weight to Carra's contention that the attacker could be one of the Premier League's best. After his return from injury in February, he grabbed 19 goals/assists in 13 games for Dortmund, which is a Luis-Suarez level of creativity. Stats for the last three seasons:

* 127 apps
* 61 goals
* 29 assists
* Goal/Assist every 1.4 games

Reus recently rejected a contract extension at Dortmund, which suggests he is open to a move at some stage, so why not test Dortmund's resolve with a bid that activates the buyout clause?

Is there any compelling reason *not* to make a move for Reus?

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132 comments:

  1. From what I know the clause comes into effect next season

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  2. Terry McDermotts perm10:50 pm, August 06, 2014

    No, send Didi Hamann.

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  3. Not that i can see.


    Interesting to note that Origi is saying that Gerrard wanted him to sign for Liverpool. Perhaps they are listening to you and getting senior players involved in transfers, or perhaps they already were.

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  4. Cant see it happening unfortunately.


    According to italian journo Mina Rzouki on twitter we are in a two horse race with City for Falcao

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  5. Maybe they're listening to me. I said we should sign Origi in May :-)

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  6. It does. That's why they offered him a new deal, to increase the release clause

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  7. We get a player on loan only with a clause to buy if turns out good .
    who doesn't play first team football and its everywhere like it a main signing.
    Development player again like Assadi Aspas alberto .
    We have I think the most Liverpool fans in the world wanting a already made world class player Reus at a good price young and if not injured would have played world cup,
    We are doing Nothing to replace Suarez with half a player of his talent
    Daneil is injury prone lambert is old with view for Few games . what happens is they both are out Imagine ,
    Allen is hopeless so we need Box to Box midfielder Fsg will not give money like this again for years Why are we not getting Reus or Pogba as stevie Gerrards long time replacment

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  8. I heard!! WOW! I wonder can she be trusted!! She also said that we are ahead of City bcz they need to sell someone to buy Falcao!!!

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  9. colonel cocknocker11:10 pm, August 06, 2014

    I would love reus but as jamie said, dortmund have to be interested and so does reus. Even if he has a release clause of 20 (next season i presume) then we'll be competing with more attractive offers than we can make. Our only chance really is to get him this year (unless we win the league and cl of course) in which case i think we should still bid like 35 mil for him. At the end of the day that's what he's worth and we'll be more likely to get him if dortmund are on our side pushing the deal through...and we can definitely offer him a wage increase with reina's wages hopefully gone...

    I want jackson martinez more though, really wish we'd go for both of them we did get all the tv money after all....

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  10. As far as I can see, it's only the English press claiming that the release clause comes into effect next summer. How would the Daily Star etc know that?

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  11. An offer now of 30mill might interest them given that he can go for 20 next season if that is the case. Then be down to whether player sees us as a team worth joining, would undoubtedly be our star player and that might interest him. Plus we play style of footie that would suit him perfectly.

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  12. I presume you are talking about Manquillo, as you dont mention the players name., But he was fighting for a place against Juanfran, who IMO is among the best RB's in the world, give the guy chance before criticising his signing.

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  13. I've said this a few times now- We need this type of player now, not could've would've should've players. Offer Dortmund £30m now to stop this becoming an auction next year when Bayern will be champions again and after him.
    His goals will mean we don't need a superstar striker( although one would be welcome (Falcao?)
    Just get him

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  14. I heard it was next season as well, anyhow we should test their resolve with an offer maybe above the clause given other teams will surely bid if said 20 mill is the case. No harm in trying and he just might fancy the challenge. Just don't send Ayre to negotiate!!

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  15. Martinez has signed a new deal

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  16. Ultimately it depends on the player. If he comes to LFC and applies himself he will be truly supported to go from a very good player to a world beater... similar to Torres, Alonso, Masch and Saurez.

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  17. Agree. Using ex-players makes sense, and in this case, Hamann would be ideal.

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  18. She is an italian journalist and seems pretty reputable. It all depends on whether her source can be trusted.


    I wonder how much we are talking. We desperately need another top striker.

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  19. Just so we don't agree too much in one day- Suarez to Arsenal wasn't in any way a debacle. Imagine if we had sold him to them at that time. I think it was a triumph.

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  20. as far as im concerned besides Sterling, Sturridge, Lallana, Lovren, Henderson and Skrtel we have no players who can guarentee consistent performances. we must remember were losing Suarez, thats all his assists, all his goals, all the chances he creates and the threat he carrys. we are far behind our rivals. Chelsea squad is looking immense. with Drogba and Fabregas they have now got the devastating Diego Costa, who would have been perfect for Liverpool, i dont think people know what is in store. Diego Costa is going to destroy the Premier League if LFC dont sign a top striker to compete and decrease his confidence. with Hazard and Schurle in support with possibly Fabregas or Oscar, Chelsea are almost guarenteed to win the league. with there fantastic defensive system they will now only win games like the old school Mourinho days when they beat every1. Man City are guarenteed challengers, and as far as im concerned with Suarez gone we dont look any better than United or Spurs. with Suarez there, other players rep get enhanced as they may play to Suarez strength, and get praised for it. but with Luis gone only god knows whats going to happen as we still aint signed a replacement!


    why dont we just go for:


    Mario Balotelli - 25 ST - World Class striker. for the price he is available at, and his young age, its a fantastic signing. we can actually say he is Suarez replacement and he will accept that and feel no pressure. he is a world class player and if we explained to him that we want to win the Champions League and the Premier League and we wanted him to lead the line or in a diamond partnering Sturridge up top. i reckon Balotelli will cut out the nonsense and play for the LFC Fans. it will instantly increase the reputation of LFC and also bring other quality players to Liverpool. £18M is a bargain. £18M


    Marcos Reus - 25 LW/ST - World Class winger. if we made a double signing of Reus and Balotelli LFC will definately attract the best players for a long time to come. Reus will make us win the league and solid Champions League challengers.


    Markovic is a good player but for £20M im baffled. we should have signed Shaqiri or Firmino. he needs a world class winger ahead of him to improve. he has attribrutes that with the right coaching could take the game by storm but his price is a price which should make us title challengers. Shaqiri would have been perfect. he is a top class player and proved it at the World Cup. Lallana is a solid signing. Lambert doesnt suit LFC, pre-season or not, hes 32 and is too old for our young team. hes a decent option but we should have signed Remy who is 27 and much more suited to our play and also cheap. Lovren is a quality player. great signing. but so far our signings will not make us title challengers.


    ----------------------------------Mingolet
    Manquillo/Flanagan-----Skrtel------------Lovren----------Moreno
    ----------------------------Emre Can/Gerrard
    -------------Sterling/Coutinho-----------Hendo/Lallana
    ------------------------------------Reus
    ---------------------Sturridge------------Balotelli


    subs on: Lallana, Coutinho, Markovic

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  21. Going into the new season without a striker we can rely on is suicide we need genuine back up for sturridge ,as happy as I'd be with reus id be alot happier with a proper striker

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  22. Every stop should be pulled out to try and obtain him. Whether or not we get him, it definitely shouldn't be because we didn't do everything we could. Excellent player, would make any team he is in better.

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  23. Would love if we signed quintero as arsenal won't pay the 32 mil for him, superstar in the making, reus would be great too, so would pastore or lucus moura

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  24. colonel cocknocker11:50 pm, August 06, 2014

    yeah i saw that. But he still has a release clause of 28 million......I'm still hoping.......x

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  25. What does everybody think of using 3-5-1-1 next year if we got Reus and Moreno?
    ------------------------------Mingo-------------------------
    -------------Skrtyl-------Lovren -------Sakho
    Flanno ---------Reus--------Gerrard-------Hendo------Moreno
    --------------------Sterling/Lallana/Coutinho
    -----------------------------Sturridge

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  26. colonel cocknocker11:59 pm, August 06, 2014

    Just to say I thought that the release clause coming in next summer was all about that being when bayern will be allowed to make a move for him, otherwise they would have moved for him already surely? I'm not saying this is the case, but it does kind of make sense. I thought rummenigge mentioned it as a way of saying to reus "hang in there son, we're coming for you...". I may be wrong but i thought dortmund confirmed a while back that he did have a release clause.....and that they would do anything they could to prevent bayern taking him...sorry don't have any evidence for my claims.....

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  27. Question is why deal is not yet done!!! Next season all the other teams will be going after him. Barca chose Suarez over him, Madrid chose Rodriguez, Arsenal chose Sanchez and Chelski got Fab! We should be doing whatever it takes.

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  28. I have to say I agree 100% with this WHOLE article, especially BR personally closing the important deals. I would add this: starting with the premise that injuries and the schedule demand 4 strikers. We should sign 2 more if we keep Borini and three if we don't. I would sooner keep Peterson than Borini especially for the resale value Borini has drawn from Sunderland and Petersons speed which could be used in lower level tournament games. What we CANNOT do is PUNT on 19 yr old "stars". ENOUGH WITH THE PUNTS ALREADY!!!!!!!!!!! Bony, Lavezzi, Muriel, Lacazette whatever; JUST GET IT DONE with established strikers not some other position guys.

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  29. Reus would be the ideal transfer, and really I see no reason NOT to go for it. I'm pretty sure we have enough in the money bag to spend around the 20-30M quoted, and honestly I'd think we're pretty appealing for a player like him. He would be a star player on a big team, working with one of the best young managers around. The team is undoubtedly on the rise, and plays a style of football he's made for. Man Utd has no CL, Barca and Madrid and Chelsea have too many players in his position, I doubt he'd want to move to France, Juve and City don't seem to be in the picture, and I'm pretty sure he said he'd never go to Bayern. Really the best options for him are Dortmund, Liverpool, or Atletico Madrid IMO. Then again, I'm biased, but hey...

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  30. Won't he be at Anfield for the friendly? I hope so. Rodgers and Hamann can speak with him right there and show him around the club. And the crowd can start by chanting his name, give him a taste of what he could have. I would challenge any player not to be swayed by the Kop in full swing.

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  31. Rogers has said i read some where we will not be held to ransom in obtaining another striker if not he will wait till january , sorry to say that will be suicide if he attempts that . to go till january with the strikers we have would be suicide and plus mid season , clubs are more likely to hold you to ransom for their players if they see your desperate , and plus the fact if a club is doing well they wont sell their best striker , the business has to be done now and it should of been one of the main priorities as soon as Suarez was leaving . i will be very surprised if a player like Falcao or Rues comes to us because we have only just got back into the champions league , if we were consistently making Europe every year then yes we would have more of a chance of attracting real world class talent , but until we do that we will have to feed of the scraps of middle class strikers

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  32. #bringreustoanfield

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  33. Reus will be on his way to Bayern when he leaves Dortmund I think. Bayern don't like to let the top German players leave Germany by in large and I suspect Rumenigge's revelations are just the start of Bayern's pursuit

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  34. we need player like him .. we should move for him

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  35. If the chance occurs we would be foolish not to sign a player of that calibre, if Rummenigge is correct then form an orderly queue because Reus is a special talent that would light up any team I know alot of the fans are holding out for that statement signing that signals our intent next season and someone who can fill the hole left by Suarez and Reus wouldn't be a bad start. Cover the leftback position as well and I think we should fair pretty well next season with a player like Reus onboard.


    YNWA

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  36. ok.. now we have 75 million in pocket.. I like to rate marco reus at 27 million because he still young.. don't ask why but BR must get this payer and make move icardi for 18 million only.. ok.. Liverpool will complete all position if we get Moreno.. ( don't think about the money because we will kick off this month) we must stanby the player and 1st elevent with bench early.. don't waste the time. ( 27 + 18 + 20 = 65 MILLION SPENT ON 3 PALYER WE NEEDED ) ok.. the Fan will not assult BR because we get a quality player.
    OK.. PLEASE MAKE A DEAL FASTER AND.... START THE GAME.. YNWA

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  37. Ahmadullah Iqbal1:29 am, August 07, 2014

    I want to be like Batistuta too! :)

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  38. OUT
    REINA
    LUCAS
    COADY
    SUSO
    AGGER
    BORINI
    ASSAIDI
    TOURE
    IN
    CAN
    LALLANA
    MARKOVIC
    LOVREN
    LAMBERT
    ORIGI
    WIST LIST
    REUS
    ICARDI
    MORENO
    PROMOTION
    IBE
    COMPLETE SQUARD..

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  39. It seems to me that unless players leave, we will not have any cash to sign any top striker. The wage bill has gone sky high with all the new signings and all the Suarez money has already gone. If people think FSG are gonna bank roll the new stadium and invest more than £35 million on playing staff then they are in cuckoo land. The only cash available now is from player sales, that includes Borini, Agger, Reina and Lucas. Unless we shift them we have NO money for anymore signings, most clubs want money up front, we have no money unless we sell.

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  40. It seems to me that unless players leave, we will not have any cash to
    sign any top striker. The wage bill has gone up with all the new
    signings and all the Suarez money has already gone. If people think FSG
    are gonna bank roll the new stadium and invest more than £35 million on
    playing staff this season then they are in cuckoo land. The only cash available now
    is from player sales, that includes Borini, Agger, Reina and Lucas.
    Unless we shift them we have NO money for anymore signings, most clubs
    want money up front, we have no money unless we sell first.

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  41. Reasons *not*:
    1. He is a winger/am, and we have sterling, Lallana, coutinho, suso, ibe, machovic for those 3 positions.
    2. We need a striker.
    3. We need a lb/fb
    4.the Belgium number two isn't good enough. (Love to nick Chek off Chelsea)

    Rather have reus than our two new signings,but there hear now. And the hole left by Suarez isn't going to be filled by borini coming back. (Lambert being a replacement for aspas)

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  42. come on,,, who knows about B R in germany? specialy young players.
    remember Sanchez? BR has no puling power whatsoever.

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  43. Given what we spent on Markovic and Lallana maybe we already have the players we need in those positions. They were our targets in the position that Reus would occupy. Reus might seem a better option but if we've signed other players it seems to me like he was never a target. Plus if Reus had this clause in his contract all along and Liverpool were interested they would have started the process even before the window opened. If it was going to happen it would be done and dusted by now. For whatever reason we haven't moved for the player and I don't see that changing now.


    I get the impression that, despite stories about not signing contract renewals, Reus simply prefers to stay where he is, at least for now. Maybe any new contract would include a prohibitive release clause and the player simply doesn't want to locked into that kind of agreement. He's on a good deal, he's well paid and he's playing for a good team. If he sticks with the current contract then when another team comes in for him he can simply say yes or no, knowing that most good teams can afford to pay it.

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  44. Spirit of the Shadows2:12 am, August 07, 2014

    the thing is would he come to anfield? We are strikingly similar to Dortmund right now, (star striker just left , young manager etc). Btw I don't think nuri sahin would give him positive advice about us..

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  45. by the way, dont you know that B R always goes for Chelsea rejects. sturidge, moses, borini or his other old clubs, Alen. Boney & ....

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  46. That's a good point. Rodgers has achieved very little and there simply isn't a whole lot of prestige factor associated with him. What would impress a player is simply that Liverpool want them. That initial enquiry would come through Dortmund anyway so the first Reus would hear about it is via his agent. Only after Dortmund and Liverpool agree a fee would the player be allowed to talk to anyone so all the negotiation and contract stuff needs to done first. There isn't really any point in time in that process where Rodgers can work his voodoo magic and convince the player to want to come here. I think it's all in the initial moment. A players hears that Liverpool want them and that's either a good thing or they don't really care. Origi was an example of where that might be different - the clubs agreed a possible fee and then the player needed some help to decide. That's the point at which the manager can have a conversation about football. That happened with Origi so I would expect it to also happen with someone like Reus, if the player felt it was important.

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  47. I think he can play second striker if need be

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  48. I don't think Reus would be stupid enough to rely on the advice of Sahin.

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  49. And why go to Utd? If we buy Reus, we're a much better chance of top 4 than Utd IMO

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  50. Flip flop Reus and Lallana and you got it down pat. More likely to return to 4-3-3 though, with:


    ----------Gerrard-----Hendo-------
    ----------------Coutinho-------------
    Sterling-------------------------Reus
    ----------------Sturridge--------------


    as our mid/attack

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  51. Just like 6 other players we have. And reus is at his best when running at defenders.
    What happens when Sturridge is injured. Which he will be.
    Borini? Lambert?

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  52. I agree that Lacazette is ideal in terms of attributes, but my main point is that his age is actually a downer for me. We already have our "potential" players. In 2-3 seasons time, we will be stacked, at least in the attacking. Lacazette will be good for those 2-3 years, but by then he will be entering his prime, a time in his career when he can't afford to sit on the bench behind guys like Yesil, Ibe, Markovic, and Origi. But in turn, they can't sit and risk wasting potential. Remy is a very similar player and at a very good age, and would have been PERFECT for LFC, but that didn't really pan out as we had hoped. Lavezzi would be my choice, but back to Icardi, i'm not really impressed. We need a striker in his prime NOW so that when our youngsters come good, he is in his decline.

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  53. I agree, we need someone who can lead the line and as good as Reus is I doubt he'd be effective as a lone striker. Suarez could do it, Sturridge could do it and Lambert can probably do it too. Maybe Sterling can grow into the role but I do think we need another front-man who has the ability to be a goal scorer AND a creator. That's why Suarez is so impossible to replace, he could play any role in a front three and even in the 10 spot.

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  54. Although, if Borini does leave (as hoped) Lacazette would be my #1 pick to take his place. That whole spiel above was regarding additions to what we currently have...

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  55. I'm with you on this. I'm a massive advocate for what Rodgers is trying to do in terms of getting the right players in with the right attitude, but sometimes you have to compromise a little on your ideals in order to simply make sure you've got the players you need. If we need to bring in a striker who maybe doesn't tick all the boxes or is a little over priced I say we do it. In fact it's what I expect the club to do. They'll work hard to bring in the perfect striker but if they can't find that ideal player they'll pull the trigger on a deal for someone a bit further down their list. It might come late in the window and it might cost a bit more.

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  56. You can also put Sterling in place of Flanno and really go for an attacking formation. Putting that team together it actually shows why we don't really need Reus. Lallana can fill that role very well as an attacking midfielder who drifts to the left a bit and I think that's why Reus was never a target for us. Coutinho can be in the hole just behind Sterling. It's actually a very potent line-up and starts to convince me that we'll be OK without Suarez and even without another striker. The big issue comes with injuries and having to use Lambert instead of Sturridge. I think Lambert will do OK but if Sturridge is out for 4-6 with something serious I can't see Rickie being able to lead the line for the club across multiple competitions.

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  57. Having thought about this a bit more it seems to me that Lallana was the player we decided to go for rather than Reus. Similar price, similar player, but we identified Lallana as our preferred option. I'm sure plenty of people this Reus might have been the better option but Lallana's strong desire to player for Liverpool is probably the reason we went for him. Maybe the club made a tentative enquiry about Reus and were told to go stuff it where as with Lallana it always seemed like the deal was on.


    Is Reus a significantly different player to Lallana? Like I said, no doubt many people think he's better, but in terms of the kind of players they are, have we already bought our own version?

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  58. Not impossible. There are people like me....

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  59. Falcao, Reus and Moreno then we are done

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  60. (Lavezi/Falcao/Bony) + Reus + Moreno. We will be a good to go into the new season ~ crossing my fingers

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  61. liverpool has do something very fast,i believe that God has brought us back to the normal standard of football position ,we have to be careful during the buyout of alonso for years liverpool was unable to fill that gape there,let somebody be there like suarez let move foreward

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  62. Good point; lets just pray he gets it right am damned quick!!!!!!

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  63. We need to sell Borini, Lucas, Allen Assaidi, Toure and Johnson. They are not needed. Keep Suso !!!! That's plenty of funds to help offset some of the acquisition costs.

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  64. Who gives a shit about Sahin? I bet Reus doesn't.....

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  65. That's the thing, players from the Italian league NEVER do well for us, especially that last kid.. Coutinho... *cough cough cough*

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  66. I am sorry but I jus do not believe what Rummenige says. These heads from big clubs like Bayern and Barca are notorious for lying. Just the other day, the Barca president says Suarez had a deal to join before the WC whereas the Uruguay manager is saying he agreed to join in November. Also, I think it would be illegal to talk about confidential things in a contract in public. So, no matter what anyone says, I still believe Reus is too expensive and basically a pipe dream.

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  67. No point talking about it because we won't be getting him. Forget Reus . Forget Vidal , forget Falcoa, forget Ronaldo , forget Messi , . We're not goner get any of these players

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  68. But what happens if we only end up signing one of these mid-class strikers as you put it? Will us fans put up and shut up or will we moan to high heaven about it? Your reasoning suggest that as we have been absent from the Champs League we have no chance of signing a marque signing, so what hope does the club have in keeping you happy? It seems to me that the club is a bit dammed eitherway. We had minimal chance of retaining Suarez this year given the circumstantces and all things being equal we really shouldnt have had the blessing of retaining him last season, but credit to the club they got one more important year from him in tough circumstances. I know it is hard, but as fans I think we need to try to show a little patience and place some trust that behind the scenes everything is being done to address the striker issue, after all Rodgers has consistently said in the press that the club wants to sign a striker. Too many fans seem to have this oversimplistic view that you just snap your fingers and sign world class, big name signing but surely we all know deep down that that executing our transfer business is a little more complex and competitive than this with multiple stakeholders and financial and logistical arrangements to be made. We have improved the squad already. A new striker would be awesome, but it has to be the right player on the right terms for long term success so a little realism and patience should be given by all.

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  69. REUS...reus reus reus reus reus reus reus reus reus reus reus reus reus reus reus reus reus reus reus reus reus reus reus reus reus,WE WANT REUS.

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  70. The thing is we should put in a bid in excess of release clause amount, as to be more persuasive to Dortmund compared to the other clubs who might do the same

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  71. B Rodgers needs to offer B Dortmund £27M for M Reus(24), £18M for E Lavezzi(28) and lastly offer Swansea £17M for W Bony(25)


    Those three attackers would cost the club £62M


    And with the likes of Borini(23) and O Assaidi(25) being shipped out , they should bring in £20M in on sales


    And with those three attackers above we could have so many attacking combinations:


    1: Reus Sturridge Markovic


    2: Sterling Bony Lallana


    3: Reus Lambert Sterling


    B Rodgers should bring those three attackers at the top to the club as soon as possible.


    And when B Rodgers ships out :S Coates ,K Toure and D Agger.


    He should replace the three centre backs with T Alderwield(25) Of A Madrid for £6-£8M

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  72. Mate, we just do not have that kind of money. We have already spent over 100 mil and we definitely cannot buy three attacking players. It is just not that easy to say that with player sales, we will get money. Look at how difficult it is to sell Johnson and Reina. Liverpool is not owned by some oil sheikh, we do not have unlimited funds.

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  73. What baffles me is that the season is about to start. Clubs won't have time to replace so they'll be reluctant to sell. What the hell is going on?! Why haven't we even bid for him or any of the players mentioned?! Soo frustratingggg

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  74. Twistadee 11, when I see your name on a post, I just ignore it, and move on to the next post, usually because your posts are too long, or because you have a list of potential signings that would comprise A SQUAD, I am not complaining, or criticising you, I am just pointing out to get get the interest of fellow fans like me and others, let the experts do the scouting.

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  75. I just don't think Italians do that well at Liverpool not Brazilians or Argentines or any other Serie A player..

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  76. Please let this be true, Brendan il take you to the airport myself

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  77. Yes, Lallana is our Reus. Higher price and half the output.

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  78. Zola, bergkamp, vieira, gullit, vialli, Di Canio, are a few who have come from italy and done well.

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  79. Although not required on every single article, his posts encourage critical thinking about the team. The 'experts' you refer to have delivered us rubbish in the past, whats so bad about throwing a few names into a post as a suggestion? It's better than the Lavezzi crap you were going on about yesterday.


    Besides, thanks to Twistadee I know the age of every single player, ever.

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  80. Without a superstar player or attacking partnership to bail us out of trouble, this season to me seems like the typical modern Liverpool approach of taking one step forward and then two back...


    We've reached a critical point during the window where the club personnel need to deliver otherwise I do fear that we won't make progress this season. We need a backup for Sturridge and a Gerrard replacement IMO. Can't see a fullback signing as we have just secured a loan deal. A bit critical here, but enough with the youngsters, why can't we pull the trigger on a big deal and tell Johnson exactly how it is?

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  81. I'd be very surprised if they were not :-)

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  82. And their transfer values:-)

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  83. I agree that optimistic thinking is good and sometimes needed but on every single article, it is just too tedious and that too the same players. For one year, he has been saying we should sign Moussa Sissoko and Hatem Ben Arfa. It is good to give a suggestion over a player but every article the same player is too monotonous. Now, he usggests we should sign three more players and take our signings to 11 if we sign Moreno. That is too munrealistic.

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  84. Moreno deal still seems very much on the cards. Gerrard hasn't been the same player for some time now, he's no longer the irreplaceable saviour he once was. A striker is the missing piece. I actually would feel reasonably confident if a Remy-esque player can be found but we should be aiming higher.

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  85. We're playing Dortmund on Sunday, maybe Brendan can have a little chat with Reus then?

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  86. Liverpool American owners will live to regret getting rid of Luis Suarez. The man is irreplaceable, unique in talent. Instead of helping him and showing the world that Liverpool is much more than just soccer reputation they do the opposite. After his soccer career Suarez could have assisted in the academy.

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  87. It's not just the Star reporting it. There is no way that such a clause is actionable now. There would be 15-20 clubs hammering down the door now to get him.

    I've stated in an earlier discussion with Nick that the only way we will get him is to massively "over pay" (in terms of his contract) for him now, at least double his release clause.

    The fee would need to compensate Dortmund for the amount of money that will lose, in terms of lower league finish, reduced success in CL, in a similar way that losing Suarez may have affected our league finish last year.

    A good impression on Sunday when we play them in Anfield may help. Roll out Karl Heinz Riedle too

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  88. a compelling reason to not make a move for him would be that he fits the bill and is available for peanuts. we never go for that.

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  89. You know if you take out Reus' penalty goals from last season he's not significantly ahead of Lallana in terms of scoring. His assist count is better but he also had a better class of goal scorer around him. Lallana seems overpriced and he could turn out to be fairly average for Liverpool, I'd just wait to see him play a few settled games before making that call.

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  90. Well, I didn't want to be seen to be talking myself up but I also consider myself quite versatile. I scored a goal and set one up on Monday night futsal.

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  91. You haven't mentioned the age of ANY of those players

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  92. Rumour has it that Agger broke down in tears begging Rodgers to let him leave while on the USA tour and that the most likely destination for him is Barcelona.

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  93. Yes...but could you do it on a cold wet night in Stoke?

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  94. Johnny starrs has lost the plot lately. He should be counting his lucky starrs that he's still allowed on this website...

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  95. I'm an irishman, cold and wet is when I'm at my best

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  96. ...Have you not been listening to the Moreno talk?

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  97. Logan, remember to post links to your rumours, you know what JK will say ;)

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  98. Well I guess shitty weather has to count for something!

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  99. The English press? Perish the thought; they'd never stoop so low ;-)

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  100. Where did Arsenal get Terry Henry from?

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  101. I agree Pete this window was the one to bring in names instead of maybes i don't know if the money is going to be there in coming seasons with the stadium alterations.
    I really thought after last seasons efforts we may turn our ideas to recruiting for the now more than the future but alas not to be.
    This rebuilding business sometimes only leads to more rebuilding it never ends and it irks me that they wasted so much on Lallana when say Isco is out there at a similar price and is young.

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  102. Take Gerrard's pens away and he's as useful as a sack of potatoes. I tune into every Bundesliga game week and Reus is a distinguished level above Lallana i.e top quality, proven European attacker which Lallana IMO is not.


    We don't need Reus and I personally don't mind Lallana at all but I won't kid myself as to who is better.

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  103. Yes indeed you did not see the biggest clubs lining up for Lallana but sure as hell are for an injured Reus.

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  104. Sid , what part of B Rodgers was promised £60-£70M on players for making Champions league football and also anything he could bring in on player sales before L Suarez(27) was even sold?


    The first 6 players signed as B Rodgers has stated, they were going to be signed whether we had L Suarez(27).


    So there now we have sold him, There should be at least £65M left in the coffers, plus £30-£40M extra shipping out the likes of these:


    B Jones, P Reina, S Coates, K Toure, D Agger, M Kelly, G Johnson, L Leiva, O Assaidi and F Borini.


    Out of the 6 players brought in as Origi has been lent back out on loan:


    D Lovren(24) will be the most valuable
    Lallana(26) and Markovic(20) are exciting players to have


    But have we addressed the biggest defensive problems we have: S Mignolet(25) needs class, quality competition for his place as apart from being an amazing shot stopper he is poor at everything else.


    With Gerrard(34) and Lucas(27) as DM , we lack energy,mobility and pace. And they offer the back four very little protection: B Rodgers needs to spend £17-£20M bringing B Matuidi(27) Of PSG to the club


    As E Can(21) is a box to box midfielder , he is not a defensive midfielder and Man United's 2nd and 3rd goal in the ICC showed us again that we desperately need a DM in the Mascherano and Sissoko Mould.


    If the likes of Herrera and Lingaard can get into pockets and hurt us, what does B Rodgers think the likes of Isco, Iniesta, Pogba, Xavi, Alacantra,Pirlo, Cabaye, Rakitic, Modric and Rodriguez will be able to do to us in Europe in the space just in front of back 4 if they evade Gerrard(24) or Lucas(27) ?

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  105. Believe it when I see it. Brendan needs to sign a worldie striker before the season starts.

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  106. I think Enrique (when fit) is still good enough for the first team. Why spend 20 odd million on Moreno to dump Enrique when it's clear that Johnson needs to go (first).


    Currently, Manquillo has been added to the queue of defenders battling Johnson. Why not have Johnson or Flanagan compete with Enrique and then bring in a first team quality right back?


    That's the ideal scenario for me. Sign a proven right back and then Johnson who can operate on either side, should compete with either fullback for a starting place. One of Kelly/Flanagan to cover with the other one shown the door due to too much competition. Let's not forget we have Wisdom on loan.

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  107. Icardi, Lavezzi, Falcao... We'll probably end up with Rickie Lambert... wait......

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  108. Get him Brenden, It may be the only chance to get him and for the cheap as well

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  109. B Rodgers should offer B Dortmund £25-£28M for M Reus(24), B Rodgers should then offer PSG £14-£18M for E Lavezzi(28) and Wrap things up with a £15-£17M deal to bring W Bony(25) to club.


    The trio would cost the club £61-£63M


    As we need some serious fire power, D Sturridge(24) always misses 5-9 games a season due to injury. And Lambert(32) is already struggling, so we desperately need some more mobility pace speed and goals brought to the club as soon as possible.

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  110. thats why i changed it loggy check the edit ...this time i wasn't having a dig at you

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  111. broke down in tears...if he did give me break

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  112. if there is a chance we can get reus rogers and hamman and who ever should be trying to sell the club to him or it will be the Sanchez show all over , knowing rogers he will ask reina to pop over and see him while he is signing for bayern

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  113. The voice of reason.11:17 am, August 07, 2014

    Unless Liverpool officially put an offer in for Reus, no way would Dortmund allow anyone to speak to approach Reus, that`s if he even travels with the B, Dortmund team for this friendly.

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  114. Is there any compelling reason "not" to make a move for Reus?


    the answer is a resounding NO, Sir.

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  115. seems unlikely that reina will try and coax a dortmund player to join us. especially given the tension between the two clubs.

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  116. i was being ironic M8 rogers wouldn't have the nous to think of that

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  117. thats a hell of a post twist but i disagree that can cant be a defensive midfielder he has eveything the role needs hes strong hes hes fit and he can head a ball and he has a decent passing game

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  118. Money.. lots of it

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  119. I don't think that's a likely scenario.
    For a start Borini doesn't look like he's going anywhere now (except possibly on loan) and Assaidi's sale has stalled too.
    I'm also unconvinced that we've got room for Lavezzi, especially not if we bring in Reus. I would like to see Bony or another capable striker come in though.
    As for CBs Rodgers has made it clear that Toure won't leave.
    Coates hasn't looked bad in preseason but I agree that Agger should go, for his own sake if not for ours.
    Not convinced by Alderweild, I know he's versatile but he's not really played for the last year and it's a somewhat risky move. We've got Lovren Sakho Skrtel plus Ilori and Toure/Coates/Kelly, so we should be ok at CB.

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  120. I believe that story originally can from the German newspaper Bild.

    Here is more about his release clause

    http://www.bild.de/sport/fussball/marco-reus/der-kampf-um-den-bvb-star-geht-wieder-los-37012710.bild.html

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  121. It is hearsay anyway.

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  122. If a move this summer was at all likely would there not be loads of teams interested? Of the teams who would be interested would we offer the best chance of winning leagues, Champions leagues, paying massive wages? He will go to Bayern, Barca or Madrid next season.

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  123. He did get 13 assists as well, and a goal or two that weren't pens. He's not a force anymore but he's still got a part to play.


    Reus is slightly different to Lallana, but they're broadly similar players, and Pete's right he's significantly better, and a little younger.
    Reus would be a quality addition, but he should have been bought prior to Lallana. As it stands if we picked him up we'd be overloaded in the AM/Winger positions, though he can play as a useful second striker.


    We're still light a striker, and lb. If we get a good 15-20 goal striker and a solid LB then I think we'll be ok.

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  124. Done dreaming.

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  125. There probably are lots of clubs interested, but few enough that would be in a position to buy him and be a club that he'd move to.


    I'm not even sure if we fit that category. If we were in the CL last season (and had won a domestic cup or two) and then finished 2nd so we'd have 2 consecutive seasons in the CL, plus looking like we were competing domestically, then yeah you could see why Reus might consider a move to LFC. Right now though much as I love our club it's not quite as attractive as some of the other big hitters.
    A portion of that is down to Rodgers not having the same pull as other managers (see LVG getting top talent even without CL) and another part is due to our absence from the CL and poor domestic showings excluding last season.
    But if we build on last season, and finish top 3, with a decent European run and decent cup runs, we'll start to look more and more attractive. Particularly because players will see a club that is doing well but also has the potential to improve, and if they're the ones to do that it would significantly enhance their own reputations.

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  126. Gilstrap, E Can is better offensively than he is defensively. Just because he's fit, strong and can head a ball and can pass means he will be a good defensive midfielder.
    Yaya Toure, Diame, Moussa Sissoko, Pogba, Barkley are all big guys with all the attributes you mention can has but all the players above and can are better offensively than defending.

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  127. BR : Sell Agger 12M Jonhson 6m borini 14m Raina 2m assaidi 6m=40m

    and Gett Alves 5m Balotelli 12m alonso 3m Rues 23m Schürrle 17m

    LINE UP

    mignolet

    Alves Skrtel Sakho Enreque

    Gerrard Henderson

    Coutinho Rues Schurrle

    Sturridge

    next team

    # ### Jones
    Manquillo Lovren Toure flanno

    Alonso Allen
    starling Markovic Lallana
    Ballotelli
    and we still have
    Lambart Lucas Can Coates kelly and loan Ilorri Ibe suso

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  128. Just who exactly do you think you're fooling by not letting people directly copy/paste your articles? You only make it annoying as crap having to retype what ever names or other pieces of information your readers would be interesting in googling. If anyone wanted to reuse your article for commercial usage I am PRETTY sure they would find it worth taking 5 minutes rewriting it the old school way, and you gained nada by blocking the option to copy paste. Nada! Food for thought....

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  129. I LIKE HIM ...PLEASE JOIN LFC.GOOD TALENT

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