Liverpool are reportedly preparing a massive bid for Juventus and Chile midfield star Arturo Vidal, who is also being pursued by Premier League rivals Manchester United.
According to Italian newspaper TuttoSport today:
* Liverpool are preparing a £40m offer for the Chilean midfielder.
* Juve will not do business for less than £43m, and ultimately value Vidal at £50m.
Additionally, a report today in respected Chilean newspaper El Mercurio claims that Vidal is open to a move, and has a transfer preference for Liverpool, Man United, or Real Madrid.
When asked this week about his future, Vidal - nicknamed 'Il Guerriero (the Warrior)' - told reporters:
"I have heard about the interest shown in me but [my Agent] deals with this. Once I arrive to Italy I will speak to the coach and see what happens."
27-year old Vidal had an excellent World Cup for Chile, and he's very highly regarded, especially by some of the game's top managers. In June, Louis Van Gaal raved:
"Chile have very dangerous players [who] always play an attacking style. I always wanted to buy Vidal when he was at Bayer Leverkusen but he went to Juventus"
Arsene Wenger is also a huge fan, and a few weeks ago, he outlined Vidal's main qualities:
"Vidal is one of the best midfielders in the world. He has everything. Incredible stamina, perfect timing. He's a marathon athlete who plays football."
Vidal is clearly the type of player who can elevate Liverpool to a different level, but with Gerrard, Can, Henderson, Lucas, and Allen already at the club, can the Reds realistically sustain six senior central midfielders?
* Lucas and Allen are squad players, so they can be discounted straight away.
* Vidal will clearly have seniority over Emre Can, who will probably be played out of position to accommodate the Chilean.
* Jordan Henderson is (arguably) most under threat from this potential signing. Vidal has excelled as a box-to-box midfielder, and would be direct competition for Hendo in the first team. Plus, if LFC spend €40m+ on a player, he will almost certainly be in the starting line-up for most Prem/Champions League games.
What about Gerrard? Will the signing of Vidal have any impact on his role in the team? The Chilean is good enough (and experienced enough), to play as a deep-lying playmaker, and if Gerrard is to be gradually phased out, then I doubt many Reds fans will complain if Vidal is the man to take over.
Author: Jaimie K
According to Italian newspaper TuttoSport today:
* Liverpool are preparing a £40m offer for the Chilean midfielder.
* Juve will not do business for less than £43m, and ultimately value Vidal at £50m.
Additionally, a report today in respected Chilean newspaper El Mercurio claims that Vidal is open to a move, and has a transfer preference for Liverpool, Man United, or Real Madrid.
When asked this week about his future, Vidal - nicknamed 'Il Guerriero (the Warrior)' - told reporters:
"I have heard about the interest shown in me but [my Agent] deals with this. Once I arrive to Italy I will speak to the coach and see what happens."
27-year old Vidal had an excellent World Cup for Chile, and he's very highly regarded, especially by some of the game's top managers. In June, Louis Van Gaal raved:
"Chile have very dangerous players [who] always play an attacking style. I always wanted to buy Vidal when he was at Bayer Leverkusen but he went to Juventus"
Arsene Wenger is also a huge fan, and a few weeks ago, he outlined Vidal's main qualities:
"Vidal is one of the best midfielders in the world. He has everything. Incredible stamina, perfect timing. He's a marathon athlete who plays football."
Vidal is clearly the type of player who can elevate Liverpool to a different level, but with Gerrard, Can, Henderson, Lucas, and Allen already at the club, can the Reds realistically sustain six senior central midfielders?
* Lucas and Allen are squad players, so they can be discounted straight away.
* Vidal will clearly have seniority over Emre Can, who will probably be played out of position to accommodate the Chilean.
* Jordan Henderson is (arguably) most under threat from this potential signing. Vidal has excelled as a box-to-box midfielder, and would be direct competition for Hendo in the first team. Plus, if LFC spend €40m+ on a player, he will almost certainly be in the starting line-up for most Prem/Champions League games.
What about Gerrard? Will the signing of Vidal have any impact on his role in the team? The Chilean is good enough (and experienced enough), to play as a deep-lying playmaker, and if Gerrard is to be gradually phased out, then I doubt many Reds fans will complain if Vidal is the man to take over.
Author: Jaimie K
Yes please! Although I would not mind Pogba as well :0P
ReplyDeletecant see this happening, but vidal would seriously be the best option avaliable for 40m imo
ReplyDeleteI hear Man U is in favor of signing Vidal
ReplyDeleteI guess if MU can sign him then i see no reason why Liverpool cant!?
ReplyDeletenot happening
ReplyDeletei dont think vidal would like to go to manu
ReplyDeleteYep Vidal says he will only be joining Liverpool. Messi, Di Maria, Reus and Iniesta are also said to be looking to join Liverpool before the season starts.
ReplyDeleteNot going to happen. BR wants to prove a point that marquee and expensive signings not necessarily means success. He will try to create a player who can score 20 or more goals within.
ReplyDeleteI don't know if this is a good thing for us.
Dream on guys, I'd love to see Vidal in a red shirt although think it's likely to be one from Mancheser, Pogba being ex united surely wouldn't but hey Pogba could do it just to stick it too Utd again...
ReplyDeleteprobably vidal will end up in Manchester united after all.good to keep our expectations down
ReplyDeleteNo. Henderson-Allen-Lucas with Gerrard/Can as cover (with Can eventually replacing Lucas when we sell him) is good enough. Remember last season when we looked our most balanced i.e. still scoring for fun but not so shaky defensively, our midfield was Henderson, Allen and Lucas.
ReplyDeleteNo need for a CM.
Buy the best left-back that money can buy and then just get Lovren over with (even though I'm not convinced) and I think we're looking ok heading into the season.
It would soooo sweet to steal a mancs main target!! That alone would be worth 50m in my eyes!! :)
ReplyDeleteit will just make utd more determind to get vidal & pay the cash, they wont want to be humiliated by the scousers.
ReplyDeleteI just don't see why Vidal would want to go to Man United. They're not in the CL, but Liverpool are. The only reason is money, or the presence of Van Gaal. A world renowned manager can make all the difference...
ReplyDeleteNothing like good enough, actually. Allen and good don't belong in the same sentence. As for Lucas...Sunday league.
ReplyDeleteTrue.
ReplyDeleteNot for me he's just too expensive for his age. He has probably only got 3/4 years left at the top level and for me spending 40-50 million on a player of his age is suicide. I know that's what the top clubs do but I personally like the way we go after younger players with potential who we can develop in the Liverpool way. If we were going to spend this kind of money I'd like to see Pogba.
ReplyDeletemy intitial thought was also 'yes please', because he is exactly what we need, but then would we spend 40m on a 27 year old and do world class players actually come to Liverpool? fingers crossed, but i don't see it happening :-(
ReplyDeleteHe is also a world renowned basket case. If he goes there it's ALL about the money.
ReplyDeletevidal is the best player in the world in his position if its even a slight possibility we need to pounce on it. Would be an amazing signing for us.
ReplyDeleteJuventus will let him go but at the right price. Other Reports are saying £60m. Let UTD have him for that money.
ReplyDeleteallen and lucas have to go vidal is huge improvement.we simply have to get him vidal gerrard henderson can ....they can cover d.m 60 on pogba is a waste vidal is the player to get....if anyone knows anybody connected to lfc please please tell rodgers we need him...can we start a campaign to get him
ReplyDeleteUnited can offer him the Rumbelows cup.
ReplyDeletebecause unlike you Jaimie, people can see beyond the short term. What'll happen if Liverpool are not in the CL in 15/16, one season back in doesn't mean you're in every year! likewise, one season out doesn't mean you're out forever.... use your brain pal.
ReplyDeleteThis would be I think a bridge too far. Surely it is not just that we have money in our pockets that we MUST splash out without thought of exactly where/when we play all these mid-fielders ? It seems that we are in the quandary of having cash so we must spend. Leave the mid-field and just concentrate on our dreadful defence. What happened to the idea last season that a clearout was going to take place? All the defenders that were so poor are still here! Time someone in the boardroom started thinking straight before it is too late is what I think.
ReplyDeletewow....intelligent and witty...
ReplyDeletei bet you weren't saying that about lucas 3 years ago
ReplyDeleteOh yes I was! Never ever rated the guy. Can't do anything except give away stupid free-kicks near the box.
ReplyDeletedo you also apply this theory to players joining liverpool, they've not won the league in 25 years, why would...oh wait, you're too stupid...
ReplyDeleteAre you Jaimie's alter ego?
ReplyDeletefunny how every juventus seems to have world class player everywhere yet they couldnt get out of champions league group phase...
ReplyDeletehonestly Vidal seems really over rated especially after a good world cup and good seasons in a poor Serie A.
He s clearly in an other league of player like Lucas and Allen though.
Hey no worries. If Juve want £40m Woodward will offer £45m.
ReplyDeleteipersonaly i dont think we need vidal would rather us go in for another top quality winger i.e rues??
ReplyDeleteSerious get a life stop trolling opposition sites with your garbage.
ReplyDeleteRues won't happen. Even if we take Klopp saying he won't be moving with a pinch of salt it is too soon for us to attract a player like that at mo.
ReplyDeleteAgreed Reus is my dream signing since we missed out on Sanchez. Vidal, albeit a very good player, just isn't worth the money Juve want. If we were going to spend big on a midfielder I would prefer Pogba.
ReplyDeleteHopefully our interest might push up the price just to wind the Mancs up.
ReplyDeleteI like the cut of your jib.
ReplyDeleteThey are not short on cash so doubt LFC 'making a bid' would make any difference to their pockets.
ReplyDeleteI hope this rumour is not true, I hope B Rodgers spends £55M on these three centre midfielders this summer while shipping out L Leiva(27) out for £10-£14M this summer
ReplyDeleteB Rodgers should first and foremost offer B Munich £25-£35M for T Alacantra(23) a player who would take over from S Gerrard(34). CM
B Rodgers should then offer Newcastle £8-£12M for M Sissoko(24) CM
And lastly B Rodgers should offer Valencia £6-£8M for E Banega(25) DM
These three class quality midfielders would bring more class creativity quality competition to our centre midfield:
T Alacantra(23) would compete with J Allen(24) dictate tempo of play
M Sissoko(24) would compete with J Henderson(24) bring energy, mobility, pace and power from Centre of park
E Banega(25) would compete with S Gerrard(34) and E Can(21) for the DM anchor man role at the club
These three midfielders would offer some real class quality depth to our engine room.
Offer 29 million + Borini (14 million) which gives the value of 43 million that Juve are asking. Juve new signing Morata has just been badly injured in pre-season and now Italian press are reporting Juve have interest in Borini for Morata cover. WIN/WIN
ReplyDeleteOh god, enough with the 'Emre Can will be played out of position lark. He's a midfielder who was played in midfield. End of
ReplyDeleteThen Sign Benzema (2nd marquee signing) for 40 million, Louvren (CB) for 20 million and and Moreno (LB) for 20 million. Then sell, Assaidi, Alberto, Johnson, Toure, Agger and Lucas (the latter two players are of course unfortunate goodbyes)
ReplyDeleteWe only need one star player thats CAVANI.........
ReplyDeleteEven though I agree he is a fantastic footballer who would certainly improve the squad I just can't see it happening, and I would rather the club spend the money on a player who we could potentially make money back on at a later date, I'm thinking pogba, who is also very talented and has got his best years ahead of him.
ReplyDeleteIt's nothing to do with the cash. It's just the wind-up value. How many times have they made spurious bids to put up the price for our targets...?
ReplyDeleteIts not a case of wanting to go to utd but money talks & liverpool is the last place utd would want vidal to go, therefore with 200mill to spend will just outbid liverpool, if it were any other team utd would have a limit but they just wont want to be outbid by liverpool. AS for champs league its a one off season for liverpool , i cant see them doing as well this season especially with out suarez, the player they are bringing in are slightly above average at best but utd are bringing in top class players. Utd will qualify for the cl this season but liverpool wont.
ReplyDeleteIts all ways about money!.
ReplyDeletewasn't there talk a few days ago that juve were gonna put in a sneaky loan bid for borini. part ex' with vidal or pogba makes more sense to me.
ReplyDeleteyour right thats what its all about, but the mancs dont give a toss they just want the prem back.
ReplyDeleteCan I ask why you hope these rumours aren't true and then go on to name 2 midfielders who are majorly inferior (Sissoko and Banega) and another who we have no chance in hell of signing? I agree we Vidal would be a luxury signing but to dismiss that and then name those 3 players seems rather contradictory.
ReplyDeletenot for me. seems lazy and uninterested for most part.
ReplyDeleteI like your ideas, expect for Benzema. Just don't get what people see in him. He's been playing in on the top 2/3 teams in the world for years now and never set the world alight. He always looks lazy and disinterested. I would rather stick with what we have than waste 40 million on him!!
ReplyDeleteJoey, although i will always agree with targeting players that will show an increase in value....I also believe this is Liverpools time and we need to put winning trophies first right now. We've just road the "value train" for a very long time. Lets start making big statements and compete against Chelsea, Man City and ManU respectively within the transfer market otherwise we will be back outside the top 4 by seasons end
ReplyDeleteNo way. Steer well clear. IMO all the supposedly top number 9s (Suarez the exception) are majorly overrated at the moment... Benzema, Cavani, Falcao etc. I personally wouldn't want any of them for upwards of 30 million.
ReplyDeleteWho are these top class players united signed, are you referring to luke shaw for 30m and herrera? They must be the players you are referring to, because they have struggled to sign anyone else. Liverpool have signed 5 players as good or better than either of them so far this season. Liverpool will qualify for CL this year but utd won't.
ReplyDeleteid go for lucas moura all day if rues in not available
ReplyDeleterode*
ReplyDeleteThere have been many players who made the Kop roar
ReplyDeletebut no player since and no player before
made the kop roar louder
or made the kop roar more
than Billy Liddell.
He would elevate our team to a whole new level and sorry but if the price of getting him means hendo getting splinters on the bench then it's definitely one I'm willing to pay. Sorry hendo
ReplyDeleteI think Van Gaal doesn't realise the size of job he has. United need a mass clearout : for once Liverpool don't. For the first time in maybe 20 years I feel we start the season in better shape, regardless of whether they get Hummels, Vidal or whoever else they are supposed to be buying from their mythical 'war chest'.
ReplyDeleteAnd if you do suddenly go and try and buy the title back, you can stop moaning at City and Chelsea for doing it. Otherwise you might look a bit hypocritical.
ReplyDeleteI think Liverpool will have to prioritise this year. League and Champions League (I don't mean win them, just make a fist of it).
ReplyDeleteAllen and Lucas are extremely average players. Some fans see a guy with a Liverpool shirt on and lose all sense of objectivity. Emre Can is an unproven rookie so we don't know if he's good enough or not.
ReplyDeleteVidal is proven class would be brilliant with Gerrard and Henderson. In saying that, I'd probably take Pogba because he's younger than Vidal.
Both Vidal and Benzema are not worth £40m
ReplyDeletePogba is lazy with a poor attitude even for a Frenchman
ReplyDeleteWilliam Carvalho is where we should spend the money. An absolute beast
ReplyDeleteI do acknowledge your reservations on Benzema in regards to how he can be "perceived" but in the end... stas clearly show he knows exactly how to find the back of the net. 111 goal in last 5 seasons for Real Madrid (AVG 22.2 Goals per season). He scored 44 club goals in his last 2 seasons and 9 goals for his national team. With the amount of opportunist's we currently have in our midfield and on our wings we need someone that will finish the job whilst at the same time providing competition for Sturridge AND/Or potentially forming a lethal combination like DS did with Suarez. 40 million today for those stats ain't that bad
ReplyDeleteYes...ever since Morata pre season injury Borini has been one of the names mentioned for cover....Juve option allows us to treat Borini as a bargaining chip that would effectively allow us to out bid Man U for Vidal or Pogba or maybe even both ;)
ReplyDeleteVidal would totally own Henderson's position in starting 11. He will subdue Henderson's development and we dont need to fix what is not broken. Henderson is ok atm. We just need to focus on full backs and CD. Maybe 1 DM
ReplyDeleteI watched every Real Madrid match last season and have never seen a player miss as many simple chances as Benzema does and on a regular basis. His scoring stats are impressive because he simply has so many chances per game. I bet if someone could find a goals to chances stat it would be awefull
ReplyDeletehahahaha take your rosy scouse specs off & smell the coffee.
ReplyDeleteI don't think JK has grasped that we are using pre-season to see his limitations. If (Can) can play the holding role, as well as the Jordan Henderson high pressing role further up the pitch, isn't it seen as a win..win situation? God knows we needed Henderson's pressing further up the pitch in our last 3 games, we might have had different results (esp Chelsea and Palace) if we had someone to do that role.
ReplyDeleteBut he somehow he views it as unhealthy competition... It like only owning only 3 pairs of underpants (you also have to flip them inside out, too maximise usage), why do we need spares??
*On laundry day you go commando*
Thanks for posting all the info on Sakho in the last thread. Bass Tuned To Red writes some good stuff! I was going to fix and add some more to the article I was writing about Sakho which Jamie was going to post but I have decided against it as you have pretty much summed it all up. Sakho is a scapegoat.
ReplyDeleteLooking forward to Sakho improving on his first season.
hilarious ........scousers buy £8-20M players.....there is no way the hedge fund will sanction £50m....watch this space
ReplyDeletereally you don't see the slightest difference in income and deals meaning United have the funds and liverpool have to go hand in cap to Henry and borrow against this seasons tv income
ReplyDeletehilarious....the usual plastic scouse supporter.....one year back in europe and it's dizzy times.....by dec you'll be lucky to be in europa cup and your season in tatters....
ReplyDeleteI agree with some of what you say, a clear out is needed & it will happen, it could well be a mythical war chest hype by wooden head but lvg has stated a few weeks b4 he buys so fair enough hes the man to listen to not woodenhead.
ReplyDeleteI think Phil Jones has already summed up the mancs 2014/15 season...
ReplyDeleteSeriously I think I would wanna try 40-43 mil pounds on Marco Reus rather than Arturo Vidal. What do you guys think?
ReplyDeleteUnlike city & chelsea who do buy the title & spend big every season for that reason, utd havnt done much inthe transfer windows in previous seasons & are now just filling the neglected areas due to lack of spending just as any team would & buy the best they can afford otherwise whats the point ?
ReplyDeleteBoo
ReplyDeletenot world class but top class unlike your recent signings, sorry but just being honest. As for struggling you shouldnt believe all these reports.
ReplyDeleteyarp.
ReplyDeleteF*** off you manc tw*t
ReplyDeleteSo what if the player is 27, he is world class, so his age isn't relevant. Big clubs sign big players, this guy is in his prime. And by all accounts he is open to a move to LFC. If this means Liverpool must go toe to toe with United for his signature then Liverpool must do it. Why should we lose out because we afraid of competing with other big clubs, its possible we may face disappointment in our attempt to sign him, but still we must try because that's what big clubs do and we are supposed to be as big as they come in the football world. YNWA.
ReplyDeletewell if you can consider that those two are top class, then you have to accept Liverpool have just signed 5 top class players too. or do we all need to borrow your rose tinted glasses
ReplyDeletewould be a better option in my opinion, but don't believe it will ever happen.
ReplyDeleteHow do you determine he is world class? I'll give you he's a top player but I'm not sure agree he's world class. If the truth be told the majority of people had hardly heard of him a year or so ago. He was decent in the World Cup but didn't really standout that much. Sanchez was Chile's standout player and when you consider he is two years younger and cheaper I feel this deal isn't worth the money.
ReplyDeleteMy thoughts exactly for a supposed top striker he misses a lot of gilt edged chances. You also have to consider he plays for a team that stroll through their league so you can't really say that goal return is anything special at all.
ReplyDeleteSanchez is world class too, but he wanted London, nothing we could do about that. Vidal is a superb player and he would lift our team to new heights, if he is interested in us and we don't make a move, well that just speaks volumes in itself.
ReplyDeletevan Gaal from 2000-2008 won nothing, from 2010 - 2014, won NOTHING #don'tbelievethehype
ReplyDeleteReally? Sporting want silly money for him. Can't see that happening and can't say I'm too bothered either.
ReplyDeleteYou need to take your head out of the sand mate, you are so busy concentrating on Liverpool you can't even see how messed up your own manc team is.
ReplyDeleteWhat about Lucas Moura? Personally I would love to take a gamble on him for around 20-25 million... What do you think? Would PSG let him go? If so guessing they would want their money back even though he's been a bit of a flop for them so far.
ReplyDeleteNope they won't and he isn't worth anything like that either, but they will get you lot to waste 50m by feigning interest.
ReplyDeleteI agree the Sanchez one was never coming off but I'm really not convinced on spending that sum on Vidal. We are not Chelsea or Man City we can't just throw money around and just imagine if we signed him for 40+ million and he flopped. I just don't think we can take that risk on a player with diminishing returns.
ReplyDeleteYou must 99 or something
ReplyDeleteJaimie, have you ever thought of creating something like a 'various' section where those who are interested can post favourite music, videos or discuss anything not relating to football with a link at the top of your website?
ReplyDeleteJust a thought and something different to add to the site. Chances are there will be many regulars who will engage in a section like that.
United may have income, but they don't have CL.
ReplyDeleteUnited spent over 100m alone in the last 10 months, you are talking a bit of nonsense there matey.
ReplyDeleteFear of failure leads to failure too
ReplyDeleteWe really do need on top top CM, that can provide positive input in defense and in attack, I think Pogba is the man as he would give us some extra muscle in the middle. Allen, Hendo, Can, Gerrard are all good, but other than Gerrard is on the his final run - and we do need someone not to replace him but to provide some of the qualities we need when he does go.
ReplyDeletewish i had some rose tinted glasses being a Wigan supporter. Who have liverpool bought thats top class ? please name them.
ReplyDeleteAfter disappearing...literally I thought I saw Cavani actually becoming transparent on the field...during the WC, I would steer clear of him totally. He's Berbatov with better hair.
ReplyDeleteBut.....what if we dropped Gerrard for Vidal... ***GASP***
ReplyDeleteIn all seriousness though, Gerrard's place shouldn't be automatic anymore, and to be honest, I'd have no qualms with Vidal being the guy to take his place. I think the only reason Gerrard has been in the side every match for this long is because there is no one to effectively take his place. Hendo + Vidal with Coutinho ahead.... that's one heck of a midfield.
Try a £17M bid for Moura and see if PSG bite. PSG need to balance the books after buying David Luiz. Lucas Moura has a lot of raw talent that could be magnified under Brendan's tutelage, Moura is what people would see as a typical BR player in the final third.
ReplyDeleteI personally would love a cheeky bid for Moura, he'll get bums of seats and potentially be the perfect tonic for our departed crazed genius. Plus anything to make our Coutinho feel more at home couldn't be a bad thing, I get the feeling the more Coutinho is happy the better he'll react on the pitch.
no moyes spent all that money on fellaini, not utds choice. 60 mill spent for the weak areas for next season no lb or cb without the signings unlike city & chelsea who spend regardless for areas that are already covered by world class players. not nonsense you just got tunnel vision & cant see the obvious, you need to go to spec savers.
ReplyDeleteWon't be getting the Prem back though, I'm sure that Vidal won't sign for you. United just look very average now and LVG is going have to spend the next 2 or 3 years building the side up from mid table to competing for Europa League places, United fans need to realise that they need to walk before they can run.
ReplyDeleteThat's true but you can still go about reducing the risk of failure too and I think this signing constitutes too much risk.
ReplyDeleteAre you sure you support Liverpool?
ReplyDeleteSounds good too me although not sure PSG will bite at 17M. I'd be happy with anything up to 30M tbh as I know in the right environment this guys a genius and as you say he's a typical BR player... Young, very high potential, progress faltered a bit after extremely high expectations... Coutinho, Sturridge, Sterling etc. Unfortunately can't see this one happening.
ReplyDeleteJeez man, your in denial. Take a long hard look and if you concentrate enough I'm sure it will come to you.
ReplyDeleteI think that's being unkind to Berbatov to be honest.
ReplyDeleteAre you that deluded? Liverpool also have huge sponsors(Warrior,S. Chartered..etc), they had a biggest income from last season tv rights, they have CL money yet to come....Not to say that MU is in worst situation with depts!!
ReplyDeleteI bet that is what you were saying last season too
ReplyDeleteSpend the money on Moreno and Lovren and we're set!
ReplyDeleteAh it wont be just one year!! Without Fergie MU is doomed!! Fergie could make champions from average player while with Van Gaal the have to buy world class players(that wont come)...Its a long process and i cant see MU in top4 next season!
ReplyDeleteSweet Baby Jesus
ReplyDeleteTheir must charity out there that provides support for woman that have been mentally scarred from seeing Phil Jones' 'CUM FACE'.
God have mercy on your sole ladies
We are building a seriously competitive squad!
ReplyDeleteObesessed with Liverpool much?? Why are you here? Stupid manc!
ReplyDeleteHave you ever seen Herrera play? Why do you think no other club every tried to sign him. Believe me he's average at best.
ReplyDeleteSame goes for Utd, name your top class signings
ReplyDeleteWigan, isnt that manc land too. you just might get to play a derby in championship next year
ReplyDeleteNot in the least, even if he wasn't an outstanding success, it would still shave stopped united and their plans for this season. this signing would guarantee us CL football again next season and another season in the doldrums for United, how long can they go without Cl football before the wheels well and truly come off. Do you see the positives, its win win for us
ReplyDeleteNo I don't because I don't believe Vidal signing for us or signing for United is going to be the deciding factor over who gets top 4. Anything could happen.
ReplyDeleteI don't think the only attraction United offers is money. They wont be out of Europe for long. They can just keep throwing money at the problem indiscriminately and could probably stumble back in, such is their wealth.
ReplyDeleteThey've just signed a shirt deal which is worth £750 over 10 years. Minimum. Analysts reckon it will be worth over a billion. So before money from player sales or TV money or merchandise money or match-day revenue or the money from their myriad of other sponsorships, Utd are already bringing in at least £75m a year. They're a financial juggernaut and only need basic competence to return to the top table, I believe.
I don't like it, but as far as I can tell, it's the truth
Well I still think he would be a great buy, Gerrard isn't the force he used to be, its debatable if henderson will step up, Lucas isn't the same player since his injury, Vidal is define upgrade for our midfield. United are desperate for him, because they know he would be a hell of a coup, their midfled would become highly competitive with the boy on board. Its better we signed him
ReplyDeleteNot far off the mark with that. Might take a season or two though.
ReplyDeleteI always just assume we will miss out on these big money players so I'd be surprised if he does not go to Man United or Real in the end. That said, he would put some necessary bite into our midfield because right now Gerrard is the only one you can count on to fly into a tackle when needed. Lucas does it too but only just outside the penalty box and Allen seems to be scared to get his shorts dirty. Henderson? Well I think we can all agree it's better for everyone if he doesn't try anymore tackles this season.
ReplyDeleteYou make it sound like 27 is old. Suarez is 27. Gerrard is 34 but would you have said no thanks to Gerrard 7 years ago? At 40 million?
ReplyDeleteNor did they just cash 75 million for one of their players.
ReplyDeleteVidal would be an upgrade that's clear but I dispute the point about Hendo as I think his energy off the ball pretty much guarantees his inclusion in BRs team. Lucas should definitely go, loyal servant and all that but he is too slow and ponderous and doesn't contribute anything going forward which is a necessity with our style of play. I don't see this highly competitive united midfield either other than Vidal they wouldn't have much. So personally not worried too much but would like to see a new midfielder.
ReplyDeleteThere is still the prestige of Man Utd the football club as well. I may not like it but the name counts for a lot.
ReplyDeleteWhy not henderson and vidal, with gerrard/can that looks sweet, and would probably give the us the best midfield in the league. A midfield of Vidal, Carrick, Herrera & Mata is top notch, we may not want to admit it, but it would be.
ReplyDeletebut not his hair
ReplyDeleteI assume Jaimie is having his tea but when he's finished you'll be for it! :-)
ReplyDeleteSo...to sum up: you *do* see why Vidal would want to sign for Utd.
ReplyDeleteI wouldn't disagree with a midfield of those 3 but you have to remember we have both Coutinho and Lallana who can both play in one of the 2 infront of Gerrard / Can not to mention Allen and Lucas so we would definitely need to have a clear out... Allen and Lucas out for 20M. Meaning Vidal would only cost us 20M... I'd be happy with that.
ReplyDeleteJust sign Vidal, Pogba, Reus, Benzema, Balotelli, Griezmann Moreno, Manquilla, Loveren, the season is starting in a few weeks.
ReplyDeleteNo doubt we would need a clear out, There is room for Lallana and Couthinho in this team, it gives us great variation of play as well depth. Vidal would be fantastic signing especially if we recouped 20m by selling Lucas and Allen
ReplyDeleteI think we should try on Vidal before Reus. Much more chance of happening.
ReplyDeleteGood idea. I'll look into it.
ReplyDeleteNo chance...be serious
ReplyDeleteI think so as well, I don't expect a lightening start though, a lot of new faces and some are very young, but once we're up and running could be a special team!
ReplyDeleteNot really, I think players will be more incline joined United over liverpool, one season in the champions league hasnt changed that
ReplyDeleteRegardless, players would still rather join United, Chelsea, City or Arsenal over Liverpool. Hard true
ReplyDeleteHe woudnt join liverpool anymore...be serious
ReplyDeleteOne season in the Champions league is not going to make Liverpool a magnet for player, especially considering without Suarez they wont achieve it again
ReplyDeleteSure bcz of London, and M City bcz of money... But United isnt in that class, and players would rather join Liverpool bcz of CL football!
ReplyDeleteWe cant know that! Until Liverpool and MU go in the race for same player!! Liverpool is favorite bcz of CL!! No doubt abt it!!
ReplyDeleteI think you may find that this is not Liverpool's one and only time in the Champions League, the last 3 years have been an exception rather than the rule. I think you will find that if United fail to reach top 4 next year, your exact same logic can then be targeted at United.
ReplyDeleteThats like saying players would rather join Liverpool, Chelsea, City or Arsenal over United. That's muppet talk mate.
ReplyDeleteI know, its not like United have been a magnet for players either, with all their years in CL
ReplyDeleteI just dont think the players liverpool are and have signed will encourage the likes of Vidal to choose Liverpool over United, who will be seen to be on the up due to the manager
ReplyDeleteShould we be deluded then
ReplyDeleteA player like Van Persie would have never joined Liverpool...no?
ReplyDeleteBut players like Torres & Suarez did...no?
ReplyDeleteThats not true. We know from Boston red socks that Fenway can afford players for over a hundred million. They are just more smart then the money flashing idiots
ReplyDeleteUtd will do better than last year & qualiry for the cl at the expens of liverpool but your right they wont win it. my prediction is 1 chelsea 2 city, 3 arsenal, 4th utd, 5th spurs 6th everton. my only real concern is wgan get back to the prem.
ReplyDeleteNah top four will be CIty, Chelsea, Liverpool Arsenal, Spurs, United or Everton, you need to stop wearing those Manc tinted glasses for a while, they are warping reality on you.
ReplyDelete"in 10 months" as you said, utd have only bought fellaini, shaw & herrera as i previously said if you know better then tell me. but you cant !
ReplyDeleteMata, or is he not good enough to count
ReplyDeleteAgree - integrating players is a challenge.
ReplyDeleteI meant it doesn't fit our profile for signing players, ie in 3 years time what will his sell on value be. The amount of time you spend on here I would have thought you would have got that about FSG's way of doing business...
ReplyDeletePogba ahead of Vidal pls....
ReplyDeleteBut defense first please..
Benzema is not worth £20m, but alas the moon is made of cheese
ReplyDeleteI dont have any manc glasses & not biased as im a wigan supporter but you cant see properly because of your lop sided vision towards scouse land, you just cant see past the mersey infact youve got mersey tunnel vision.
ReplyDeleteAgree
ReplyDeleteSome of you really are clueless. Alot of top managers have said vidal is the best box to box midfielder in the world. You talk about having enough midfielders and them being good enough? Emre can is back up for Gerrard. Allen is awful. Lucan is on a downward spiral. Vidal is strong... Clever... And a leader. We lacked that when carragher left. Some of you talk about paying that much for a 27 year old? Gerrard is 34 and isn't exactly losing it. 27 is prime age just look at suarez. You say that we should stick to young with potential. But you don't understand you have to have world class leaders to fill the gaps. Not just Gerrard. He is jesus but he isn't god by himself. Come on people. Whether this happens or not, we are buying to strengthen and win the league. With CL. Man utd have bought shaw and Herrera which for me is over paying for not enough experience or prem proven. If he was smart he would join us. Thankyou guys
ReplyDeleteI can see how messed up both teams are, i support wigan & am completely neutral. just saying how it is mate.
ReplyDeleteAll I meant was it would mark a big shift in FSG's transfer policy. I'd personally be over the moon if we would go and sign him, but it would surprise me all the same :-)
ReplyDeleteWhy is it that other clubs can place a valuation on a player, and LFC if they want that player, pay full price.
ReplyDeleteYet when we sell a player (and in this case the best player on the planet on form) we can't demand a top price. .. Whatever anyone says, Suarez should have been sold for £100m. Fullstop.
RVP, mata wheres yours i noticed you only answered my question with another question.
ReplyDeleteYeah of course you are a Wigan fan. You keep telling us all that, sure of course we all believe you.
ReplyDeleteits funny the mancs say its scouseland, you just cant win with the scousers & mancs your 2 of a kind.
ReplyDeleteIt must be a pretty dire place if no one is willing to claim you. I feel your pain.
ReplyDeleteok one up 2u but as far as im concerned he dosnt count as im a wigan supporter, but again im only voicing an unbiased opinion.
ReplyDeleteThe idea is to stay on your feet son. Allah Zinedine Zidane!
ReplyDeleteWhy not pay £55m for Pogba
ReplyDeleteMarkovich wait till you see this boy play, and I put money on a marquee signing, all in all Liverpool have a squad that more than capable of top 4 next season. And don't forget Sturridge he was better than any player United had last season and that includes the aforementioned Mata & RVP. Sterling is going rip up the Premier League this year too.
ReplyDeleteHere here
ReplyDeleteMr Wigan, who just happens to knock Livepool while banging on about how United are on the up, nothing suspicious here, move along folks, nothing to see.
ReplyDeleteBy that logic Herrera, Shaw and Fellani wouldn't count either, Ok fair enough I'll call it a draw, they don't count. United have bought nothing in the last 10 months
ReplyDeleteLallana 25m, 26yo.
ReplyDeleteJuve value him about that much
ReplyDeleteVidal has always said he will love a move to Manchester United and has also agreed personal terms with United
ReplyDeleteHmmmm...what a deal? But Pogba will be a nice biz as well.
ReplyDeleteI saw another rumour that Juve want borini. Probably Borini will be used as player+cash deal.
ReplyDeleteNo he didn't and no he hasn't.
ReplyDeleteResearch Mate. Vidal has always wanted to go to Man Utd the Said it two weeks ago
ReplyDeleteMaybe we are evolving our transfer policy. Happy days if that's the case. :-)
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