After two frustrating years at Liverpool, it looks like Samed Yesil - another one Brendan Rodgers' transfer duds - will be leaving Anfield this summer.
Turkish Superlig side Trabzonspor are interested in signing Yesil, and when asked about his future this week, the youngster confirmed that an offer is on the table, but indicated that he'd like to stay at Liverpool. He told reporters:
"Trabzonspor have made an offer to Liverpool.
"It's an honour to be associated with Trabzonspor but I have not entered talks yet"
To be fair to Yesil, injuries have totally derailed his LFC career to date, and 2013 is a year to forget for the youngster:
FEB 2013: Tore his cruciate ligament, an injury that kept him on the sidelines for over TEN MONTHS.
DEC 2013: Just one week after making his return to football, Yesil suffered the same injury again.
Yesil claims he doesn't want to leave Liverpool, but I wouldn't blame him if he ultimately ended up jumping-ship. As I've argued many times in the past, there is practically zero chance of youth team strikers coming through the ranks at Anfield and becoming established in the first team.
Unfortunately, it's a disheartening historical reality: Liverpool is basically a graveyard for youth strikers, and in the last twenty years, only Robbie Fowler and Michael Owen have made it through the academy set-up to become regular first-teamers.
With Suarez, Sturridge, and now Lambert at the club, the chances of Yesil making a breakthrough next season are incredibly slim, and if he has any sense, he'll leave the club ASAP and try and make it elsewhere.
Yesil cost LFC £1m in August 2012, so at the very least, if a permanent deal goes through, the club should make it's money back.
Author: Jaimie K
Turkish Superlig side Trabzonspor are interested in signing Yesil, and when asked about his future this week, the youngster confirmed that an offer is on the table, but indicated that he'd like to stay at Liverpool. He told reporters:
"Trabzonspor have made an offer to Liverpool.
"It's an honour to be associated with Trabzonspor but I have not entered talks yet"
To be fair to Yesil, injuries have totally derailed his LFC career to date, and 2013 is a year to forget for the youngster:
FEB 2013: Tore his cruciate ligament, an injury that kept him on the sidelines for over TEN MONTHS.
DEC 2013: Just one week after making his return to football, Yesil suffered the same injury again.
Yesil claims he doesn't want to leave Liverpool, but I wouldn't blame him if he ultimately ended up jumping-ship. As I've argued many times in the past, there is practically zero chance of youth team strikers coming through the ranks at Anfield and becoming established in the first team.
Unfortunately, it's a disheartening historical reality: Liverpool is basically a graveyard for youth strikers, and in the last twenty years, only Robbie Fowler and Michael Owen have made it through the academy set-up to become regular first-teamers.
With Suarez, Sturridge, and now Lambert at the club, the chances of Yesil making a breakthrough next season are incredibly slim, and if he has any sense, he'll leave the club ASAP and try and make it elsewhere.
Yesil cost LFC £1m in August 2012, so at the very least, if a permanent deal goes through, the club should make it's money back.
Author: Jaimie K
I've read it's going to be a loan.
ReplyDeleteLoan
ReplyDeleteHe looks like he has potential and from the little we have seen of him due to injury he moves along the forward line with an intelligence beyond his years if he gets games and stays free from injury he could develop into a special young player hopefully. So a loan will benefit all parties
ReplyDeleteHarsh to call him a transfer dud when he's been injured pretty much the whole time. No way the club or player could've foreseen that
ReplyDeleteHas he had any positive impact on LFC? No. Therefore he is a dud injuries or no injuries.
ReplyDeleteHopefully it's a loan like some people are suggesting, when I have watched him it looked like he had some potential
ReplyDeleteSo Ibe is a dud too?
ReplyDeleteIf its an honour for him it's time to say bye bye... He's a good footballer, awesome instincts in front of the goal, I've been following him in the youth german teams for a few years now, but he has been held back by injuries, not sure if he can fulfill his potential ...
ReplyDeleteThinking about it.. yes! He has done nothing for the club yet and will be a dud until he has had a positive impact. However if he/Yesil were sold for more than they were bought for, then that would be having a positive impact. I doubt Yesil will be sold for more than 1 mill though
ReplyDeleteI think you and me have different definitions of "dud." I mean neither have made a meaningful impact, but they haven't really had the chance, with Yesil's injuries and Ibe's youth. For me a dud is someone who had chances, but failed to take them, a la Moses or Downing, or even Aspas.
ReplyDeleteFair enough. I just think if the player doesn't have a positive influence on the club before leaving, then signing them was a mistake. The injuries to Yesil couldn't have been accounted for when we signed him so I don't blame Rodgers, but at the end of the day (IMO) he was a dud.
ReplyDeleteah its a bit over the top calling the young lad a dud, it was out of his control, the thing I like in the report is he says he doesnt want to leave, I agree that if he does get it together he's going to find next to impossible to take the place of any of our forwards though, even if a certain mr Suarez is sold in the future because we'll get a shed load of cash and buy some one else
ReplyDeleteIt's a loan from what I understand
ReplyDeleteIts money, not it's.
ReplyDeleteI really believe him and Jack Dunn can make it. They are quality strikers with immense potential.
ReplyDeleteSo by your logic that would make every youth player at Liverpool who hasn't yet made a first team impact a dud? Ryan McLaughlin? Harry Wilson? Jordan rossiter? All duds? Pretty short sighted view point if you ask me. If you'd been in charge of spurs bale would've been considered a dud after one season, good move that would've been.
ReplyDeleteAnd with regards to yesil, last time I checked it's pretty difficult for a player to make a positive impact at a club with a torn cruciate ligament. It's not like he did it on purpose
What still annoys me a lot is that, this one million lfc spend on Yesil could have been that little extra money to secure the Dempsey deal ..
ReplyDeleteCharlie i dont think you understand the word dud it means basically tried but doesnt measure up you cant be a dud until you have been tried.
ReplyDeleteYesil's parents are from Trabzonspor. Homecoming loan deal apparently.
ReplyDeleteIf you are going to correct someone's grammar you need to be sure you're right.......I would include an apostrophe whwn converting it is into it's, to replace the second i
ReplyDeleteThat said why bother when the meaning is clear anyway?
If permanent insert a buy back option like Barca does
ReplyDeleteSuarez handled the ball to prevent a certain goal in the dying minutes of the game. He got red carded for denying a clear goal scoring opportunity, and conceded a penalty that gave Ghana a good chance at scoring the goal. There is no difference in terms of principle between that, and making a cynical foul at the expense of a yellow card to halt a promising attack.
ReplyDeleteIt is ironic that the latter is often lauded as clever play while Suarez's action is condemned when both are intentional fouls. In both situations, the offender must have either instinctively or consciously deemed that the benefit from such foul (preventing a certain goal and preventing a promising attack) outweighed the cost (a red card and penalty, and a yellow card).
If you deem the act of intentionally fouling to be an act of cheating, then Suarez cheated. But bear in mind that based on principle, there is no difference between Suarez's act and Carragher's and Gerrard's and almost every legend of Liverpool who have ever made a tactical foul.
Yesil has been unlucky with injuries, a loan deal would be good for him (and us) i saw him play in the league cup win at WestBrom, he was'nt on long but looked lively for a kid. If he can show he's no sick note, i'd give him a bit longer, £1 million was, at the time, a sound investment.
ReplyDelete....who cares about that now!?
ReplyDeleteNo I am not mad. Look at Rakitic's statistics when he was 23. He didn't create or score enough goals either. Henderson is 23, he has yet to reach his prime. Rakitic is in his prime. If Suarez and Sturridge don't score half as much as they scored last season, that's why we bought Lambert and have Borini. Lucas is a defensive midfielder, his role is to protect the back 4, it is not to attack. Allen's role is also not scoring goals. Mignolet doesn't score enough goals, does that mean Rakitic is a better player than him? In Gerrard's new role, he isn't about scoring goals. Xabi Alonso when he played for us didn't score very many goals. Javier Mascherano when playing for us only scored 1 goal. Goals aren't the be all and end all for a midfielder. Henderson has showed he is very classy in attack. When Gerrard was out around Christmas, Henderson stepped up and played some beautiful flicks in and around the box, many of which set up Suarez. Just because Henderson isn't rated as 80+ on Fifa, this does not mean he is an excellent player. Rakitic may offer more in attack currently, but how do you know he would if we signed him? And does he offer the amount of pressing and lung bursting runs that Henderson does? The pressing that Henderson does is one of the reasons that Sturridge and Suarez scored as many goals as they did. Would Rakitic be a vital player for a side that came 2nd in La Liga? I don't believe so. Is Henderson a vital player for the side that came 2nd in the Premier League? Absolutely.
ReplyDeleteSo using your logic...every signing is a dud by default...until they do something special for the club
ReplyDeleteWhy send our children to school?
ReplyDeleteNo, I said "before leaving". Have the academy players left? No! And it doesn't matter whether yesil did it on purpose, he hasn't done anything for LFC so how can he be considered a success?
ReplyDeleteOnly if they leave without having made a positive impact
ReplyDeleteCapel would create alot more goals for side than Alberto and Aspas. And he would also chip in with a few goals here and there.
ReplyDeleteD Capel(25) is not strong, but he is mobile, quick, pacey, skillful and technically sound, he's experienced, he can play in a number of attacking positions and he has a class quality left foot.
A Lallana(26) is not strong, he is not quick or pacey but B Rodgers has offered £25M for him, strength ain't everything. Is Xavi, Iniesta, Modric, Messi or Neymar strong Gaz?
How can he be a dud if injuries made it impossible for him to have any positive impact? He can only be classed as a dud if he has no positive impact when its actually possible for him to do so. How can you have any kind of expectations from who's out for over a year??
ReplyDeleteTo know that it's is short for it is, so has an apostrophe as the i is missing from is. Does this mean you and PayThePiper didn't go to school??
ReplyDeleteHow many offers did AC Milan have for Gatusso? He was not important neither?
ReplyDeleteI disagree that he can't make a breakthrough next season.
ReplyDeleteNot saying he's going to play every week, but being involved with 4 tournaments as opposed to 3, there could be opportunities.
Also depends on what we do with players ahead of him (such as Borini)
Excatly.
ReplyDeleteI am your fan, mate...
ReplyDeleteHopefully...
ReplyDeleteThere's a big grey area between success and dud and yesil falls into that. He's had arguably the worst injury a footballer can get, not once but twice. A loan to his boyhood club in Turkey could well reignite his love for the game and give him a change of scenery. He may return and have an impact. Calling him a dud is just silly
ReplyDeleteIf that's the thing that annoys you a lot, that's probably a good thing
ReplyDeleteSo they can grow up to be knowalls who go around correcting other people of course
ReplyDeleteCan't find many negatives about this season, but the Dempsey saga is still in my mind, and I think he could have done really well at lfc
ReplyDelete'Another on of brenden rogers transfer duds'? yet then you go on to say 'injuries have totally derailed his liverpool career' and add to that the fact he only cost £1m!!!
ReplyDeleteA dud you say! wow....great journalism!
Being American, I wanted Dempsey. I thought he would do well at LFC.
ReplyDeleteBut after seeing his season at Spurs and the fact that he hasn't really lit up MLS, I'm a bit worried about his reliability for the World Cup.
I'm afraid the USA's scoring may be relying heavily on Jozy Altidore... I think I need a drink now... not even noon here.
I think they expressed themselves enough to shoot Brazil to the final, the world cup is more than one exceptionally tight final.... you should know that.
ReplyDeleteGreg your not writer for the Guardian are you?, this kind of balanced methodology stinks of liberal leftism.
ReplyDeleteWho else was in those teams jamie?
ReplyDeleteWith my spelling I would be lucky to get a gig with the metro. Guilty of being a soppy lefty like so I'll take it all as a compliment.
ReplyDeleteWell, Allen certainly sank. That's one thing we do know.
ReplyDeleteI don't think I said any of those things. You said them.
ReplyDeleteWe spent years OUT of the Champions League,that's why we NEED 'instant success'.End of Story.After 1 year in it,will that be smart?
ReplyDeleteMy point being Fabregas v Can.
ReplyDeleteAnd our first 11 is as good as anybody in world football, it's our depth that needs work, which is exactly what we are doing, adding to our depth. Can was a key component in the Leverkusen side that qualified for the CL this past season, he can certainly make and impact, when he is used. He already has a CL medal to his name and he is only 20.
ReplyDeleteHow do you know Capel would create a lot more goals than Alberto? Alberto is a much better passer than Capel. I have never said that Aspas is better, what I have said is that Aspas has had a record of scoring goals, Capel hasn't. You clearly stated that Capel would offer more goals and clearly that is wrong, Capel isn't a goalscorer, wingers should score 5-10 goals per season, Capel has barely managed on average 2 goals per season. So I have critiqued that part of your argument. Lallana isn't strong? He is playing and excelling in a league that is one of the most physical in the world. Capel hasn't and frankly, I don't see how he could exceed in the Premier League, he simply isn't good enough. And you mention Xavi, Iniesta, Modric, Messi and Neymar, these players play in a league that relies less on physicality and more on technique. Saying that, I would say Messi and Neymar are pretty strong as South American players, although seeming lightweight, have a low centre of gravity and a good core strength.
ReplyDeleteCan is 20 years old, Fabregas is 27. Can has all the ingredients to be as good as if not better than Fabregas. Whether he reaches his potential is something up for debate, but he certainly has the talent to make it to that level. Don't get me wrong, I like Fabregas, he is an excellent player, but what everyone was calling for was a backup defensive midfielder. Fabregas is not a defensive midfielder, Can is.
ReplyDeleteAnd what wages is each on? Fernando will be getting paid around £10m a year, whereas Lallana is more likely to be just above the £3m bracket.
ReplyDeleteThat would be £62m for Fernando over 4 seasons and £37m for Lallana. Does that still sound like a fair price? I prefer to look at the big picture (and FFP). It appears LFC do too. Man City can afford not to.
And you think Lallana will be coming over for 60k a week and accept being at 40k less than Sterling?
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