After less than eighteen months at the club, Liverpool striker Samed Yesil is reportedly on his way out of Anfield, and is set for a move to his native Turkey during the January transfer window.
According to reports in Turkey and England this week:
* Besiktas have 'opened talks with Liverpool' over a deal for Yesil.
* The Turkish club have extensively 'monitored' the striker.
* Yesil wants to leave in order to further his career.
* Besiktas are willing to offer €3m for the 19-year old.
* A January transfer is 'highly probable'.
Yesil cost the Reds £1m in August 2012, so at the very least, the club will make it's money back. I don't blame Yesil for wanting to leave; as I've argued many times in the past, there is practically zero chance of youth team strikers coming through the ranks at Anfield and becoming established in the first team.
Sadly, Liverpool is a graveyard for youth strikers, and in the last twenty years, only Robbie Fowler and Michael Owen have made it through the academy set-up to become regular first-teamers, and if Yesil has any sense - which he clearly does - he'll leave the club ASAP and try and make it elsewhere.
Of course, losing Yesil will be a shame as he seems to have all the attributes to make it. Unfortunately, it's simply impossible to escape the disheartening historical reality, and with Daniel Sturridge and Luis Suarez in squad, the path to first team football will remain blocked.
Author: Jaimie K
According to reports in Turkey and England this week:
* Besiktas have 'opened talks with Liverpool' over a deal for Yesil.
* The Turkish club have extensively 'monitored' the striker.
* Yesil wants to leave in order to further his career.
* Besiktas are willing to offer €3m for the 19-year old.
* A January transfer is 'highly probable'.
Yesil cost the Reds £1m in August 2012, so at the very least, the club will make it's money back. I don't blame Yesil for wanting to leave; as I've argued many times in the past, there is practically zero chance of youth team strikers coming through the ranks at Anfield and becoming established in the first team.
Sadly, Liverpool is a graveyard for youth strikers, and in the last twenty years, only Robbie Fowler and Michael Owen have made it through the academy set-up to become regular first-teamers, and if Yesil has any sense - which he clearly does - he'll leave the club ASAP and try and make it elsewhere.
Of course, losing Yesil will be a shame as he seems to have all the attributes to make it. Unfortunately, it's simply impossible to escape the disheartening historical reality, and with Daniel Sturridge and Luis Suarez in squad, the path to first team football will remain blocked.
Author: Jaimie K
Too slow!!!
ReplyDeleteAnother way to look at it is that in the last twenty years only Fowler and Owen were good enough among Liverppol youth strikers to make it at top professional level anywhere.
ReplyDeleteIt is not as though the likes of Nemeth, Pacheco, Morgan, etc. were overlooked for reasons other than lacking talent, quality, or commitment. Rafa even gave extensive opportunities to the likes of Babel and Nogog, players who are clearly not good or committed enough for an EPL team, let alone one with top 4 ambitions. If Yesil were good enough to make it at top professional level anywhere, then I am quite confident that he would get his chances at Liverpool.
Good points, I agree, but why are LFC's scouts/coaches not producing good enough strikers? Surely, you'd expect more than two to make it through in 20 years. It's a concern IMO. If the academy is incapable of creating first-team strikers, it's utility should be questioned.
ReplyDeleteI think fair enough, although he is coming to an age where he should be loaned out for experience. Maybe that might allow him to stay longer. If we do make it permanent, perhaps we should include a buy-back or sell on clause if he is considered a possible future starter.
ReplyDeleteJamie are you from india or Pakistan
ReplyDeleteOur academy will be going through many changes now. Hopefully there will be more focus on producing our local talent than looking around for talent at other clubs.
ReplyDeleteJack Dunn, Connor Coady, Adam Morgan, Martin Kelly, Jordan Rossiter, Jack Robinson are all Scousers but they still need to fight to get in...................the challenge is there!!!
ReplyDeletejamie are you from india or pakistan
ReplyDeleteJordan Rossiter in only 16-years-old but plays in the U21 team, against seasoned over-age players and never looks out of place. This lad is everything you need in a CM player and is ahead of Gerrard at the same age, in fact he is way ahead of him.
ReplyDeleteWTF has that got to do with anything???
ReplyDeletejust wondered i spent years in india i was only asking calm down
ReplyDeleteNo problem.
ReplyDeleteOut of the above Kelly and Rossiter seem to be our shining lights but we are going to have dig really deep to get the next Fowler, Gerrard, Macmanam and Fowler. Players who could walk into any team and produce the goods straight away. That is where our academy is lacking..
ReplyDeletei bet he would become world class striker in future! i'd love to see lfc loaning him out to gain experience hence really disappointed if he allows to leave permanently..i'll take this as a worst decision..still hard to understand why we are after valmir berisha & toni sanabria without developing such talent as semid yesil...awful decision!!
ReplyDeletewas he ever even givin a real chance to make it in the first team? I have been looking forward to see this young player play for us so I will be saddened to see him leave
ReplyDeleteSaid many times these transfers wont work, these so called starlets, young promising talents coming from other leagues will hardly work here, you can see same is happening with alberto texeira pacheco before etc. We just need proven class thats it, these deals are complete waste of time for me, you either produce a player on your own otherwise dont buy it from somewhere else, because they never work out.
ReplyDeletePoor little guy wasnt just handed a spot in the first 11 over DS and LS.
ReplyDeleteYep definitely been hard done by, I mean who wouldnt bench two of the leagues top strikers in favour of an unproven 19 year old......
I think next season LFC must grab Romelo Lukaku and Kevin De Bruyne from Chelsea.Juan Mata is good player but maybe cannot fullfill our expectation.This january please send back V.Moses and Ally Cissoko back.No need to make high payment for flops talent again.We must start searching new players for replacement.
ReplyDeleteMuch better is sell Samed Yesil to Shalke 04 or to Bayern Leverkusen to make weight for dealing Julian Draxler or Lars Benders.Why not ?
I have two ords to rip your 2 in 20 years arguement to shreds: NEIL MELLOR
ReplyDeleteBOOM! there it is
ReplyDeleteNemeth and Pacheco were both good enough to have been given an opportunity in the first team imo. And Babel was obviously good enough also, but stagnated and eventually regressed after never being given an extended run in a position best suited to him.
ReplyDeleteYesil on the other hand, I've never seen anything in particular about him to get excited about, other than other people's testimonies about his goalscoring prowess
Yesil doesn't have any standout USP that I can see that would translate to make him a quality first team player - much like Morgan before him, he has a good goalscoring record at youth levels, but is lacking pace, athleticism, size, skill or anything that would scream out that he may be a star of the future.
ReplyDeleteIf he really is as good as everybody else makes out though, I'd just loan him out to another club to raise his reputation and likely transfer fee. The guy is only 19, so there's plenty of time for him to prove himself, especially considering he'sonly just returning from a long term injury
Still no replacements have been brought in. It further suggests that this wasn't just a "change of direction"...Rodgers will probably look for some Swansea old boys to join Liverpool but I doubt anything is going to change.
ReplyDeleteAlso, purchasing younger foreign talent like Yesil and the academy are two separate things. Unless they are under 18 they have nothing to do with the academy set up. The role of the academy is to focus on the development of players within the youth age brackets. How many talents do you want to be born on Merseyside? To a great extent, that is out of the clubs control.
To further the point above, Yesil suffered a nasty injury (5-6 months I think). He only returned recently and did not even have a chance to play pre season friendlies with the senior squad.
ReplyDeleteAlso, I mentioned in another reply that Yesil didn't really have anything to do with the Liverpool academy. The club cannot be criticised if Yesil has been injured for a lot of his time here.
Things are quite blurry in determining why/how a youth player has failed to establish himself. You could argue it's the scouts/coaches, you could also argue a lack of first team opportunities. For example, Owen and Fowler were thrown into the deep and managed to be successful. You rarely see players just thrown in nowadays.
People like to highlight the success that Southampton have had with youth development in recent times. But I'm sure it would of been no different for Liverpool when the likes of Fowler, Owen, Carragher, Mcmanaman and Gerrard came through roughly within the same time period.
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ReplyDeleteMost importantly, in most cases what young players at this age need is first team football, period. So someone like Yesil can either get the right amount of loan spells to have real genuine shot, or to leave.
ReplyDeleteSecond, i guess the club can asses whether or not they see a certain player making the squad.
Two possibilities in Yesil case: Either he just wanted to leave and now he's getting what he wished for, or the club can't see him making it - in my opinion he has good potential and with enough loan spells at least, then you can really determine whether he can truly be a bench striker mostly or not. I guess the club is saying: "We prefer to just replace him with someone of more promise in our perspective". This can always be questionable. I guess that some of the fans saw in him much more promise and this is an opinion only when and even also when a player is yet to get a top level test.
Me personally I liked Yesil more than Morgan, but I still was on the doubt threshold about if Yesil will be beneficial with the right process or not.
Let's see who they get and what happens in the one year or so. I am a big fan of the Liverpool academy speaking from an objective view - Actually, that extra bit of talent and quality is what they're lacking so this has the fragrance of the right approach needed.
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No, that makes no difference to my argument. Mellor averaged on 7 appearances a year between 2002 and 2005, and this was at a time when the Reds were in Europe every year. My argument is that no young striker (except Owen and Fowler) has come through the youth set-up and become a consistent success in the first team (i.e. become a first team regular year-in, year out). Mellow was not a regular, and made only 22 appearances in 3 years (most as a sub).
ReplyDeleteYou know he trained with the big team this week? Tremendous. He be sitting the bench today.
ReplyDeleteKevin De Bruyne is the only realistic 'replacement' to Gerrard the i crossed with.
ReplyDeleteNow about how realistic buying him is.
He want's out of Chelsea, Mourinho hates him (Mourinho is becoming half a lunatic), he's spoiled and has an annoying dad that Mourinho also hates (i can understand but it's a bit more complex here Jose), so he will probably get what he want's if there's a club he prefers to join, and mourinho will probably say 'whatever'... He stated that he actually supports LFC.
I'd be interested to see how many premier league teams have produced top class strikers through their ranks over the years. I'm not sure Liverpool are any worse that anyone else out there, it seems like it's just the harsh reality of playing for a top team.
ReplyDeleteWhat is ironic for me is that i live here in barcelona and almost everybody here considers our academy second only to the masia of barça,
ReplyDeleteSad news of Yesil today. This transfer story ends now. Feel terrible for the kid. I wish him all the very best in his recovery.
ReplyDeletecesc fabergas is all I need to say. bought for nearly nothing and then sold BACK to his old club for huge bucks.
ReplyDeleteas long as Liverpool cover the spread they should take these risk.
Very good player,score almost all matches he played for Germany-19(21),he should be send on loan just like Suso.
ReplyDeleteumm.. this comment was very much tongue in cheek! Im surprised he made that many appearances! I'll always love him for the arsenal and olympiakos goals.
ReplyDeleteYep, he'll always be remembered for those. Without him (and Florent Sinama Pongolle) against Olympiako, LFC probably wouldn't have made it to the CL. Mellor also provided the knockdown-header for Gerrard's Olympiakos screamer.
ReplyDeleteBought for a £1m and being reportedly sold for over £2m less than 18 months later would count as a success in my eyes. All these £1m/£2m profits on youth players sold help the turnover of the club
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