3 Dec 2013

Hansen blasts: 'Struggling' boss has wasted £100m, & is close to the sack. Agree...?

Liverpool legend Alan Hansen has stuck the knife into Tottenham Hotspur boss Andre Villas-Boas, claiming that poor performance in the transfer market is the main reason Spurs are struggling in the league this season.

In his column for The Telegraph today, Hansen insisted that AVB will be 'struggling' to keep his job if Spurs fail to beat Fulham tomorrow, and bemoaned the form of €30m signing Roberto Soldado, who has scored only one goal from open play all season. He observed:

"The big problem for the Tottenham manager is that he spent more than £100  million on new signings in the summer and none of the players he brought to the club has yet justified the investment".

AVB certainly has no excuse. Just look at the cash he splashed over the summer:

* Erik Lamela: £30m
* Roberto Soldado: £26m)
* Paulinho: £17m
* Christian Eriksen: £11.5m
* Vlad Chiriches: £8.5m
* Nacer Chadli: £7m
* Étienne Capoue: 9m
* TOTAL: £109m

Liverpool were strongly linked with summer moves for Soldado, Nacer Chadli, Etienne Capoue, and Christian Eriksen, so Reds fans should be thanking their lucky stars that none of those players ended up at Anfield (!) Except, of course, Eriksen, who (IMO) is a superb player, and he's shown that for Spurs quite a few times already.

Tottenham have regularly beaten Liverpool to major transfers over the last couple of years, but going back to Gylfi Sigurdsson and Clint Dempsey, none of the signings Rodgers missed out on have pulled up any trees at White Hart Lane.

To be fair, Brendan Rodgers' transfer performance is not much better. The Reds boss has spent over £90m on 15 players since June 2012, and only FOUR are unqualified successes: Daniel Sturridge, Philippe Coutinho, Simon Mignolet, and (arguably) Kolo Toure (who was free).

Would you take any of Spurs' summer signings for LFC? I'd take Eriksen in a heartbeat; Capoue, if only to give Lucas Leiva some real competition, and (possibly) Lamela, but not for £30m?! The rest? Forget it.

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73 comments:

  1. Ah, no one is allowed to build for the future anymore. Players must be instant successes. Lucky no one told Wenger, eh? Hansen is an idiot and will be remembered for not having any bottle on the field or to become a manager and for saying 'you'll win nothing with kids'. Enjoy retirement.

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  2. So the fact that Baldini made all these signings is lost on him?

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  3. Liverpool do not have the money Tottenham have end of discussion,

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  4. Apparently not, never did like Hanson. Always seemed to have an agenda against Spurs. Muppet.

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  5. except of course, after 13 games it would be unreasonable for any player to be written off, especially when they are each thrown in with many other new players. it works the other way too... players who have bright starts to their careers can fade. the point is, signing 7 players most likely IS the reason for their sluggish start, not the individual attributes or potential of each member. Remember they are nearly all quite young, and all from foreign leagues. it's a gamble, but it's far too soon to say he bought badly. Need I list all the players who had bad debut seasons but turned into gems? these guys still have time to have good debut seasons!

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  6. I respect that Hansen is a legend at Anfield so will try and choose my words carefully. Spurs are considered to be having a bad season by so called experts yet are only 3 points of Liverpool who are considered to be having a good season. What I've noticed when it comes to AVB, the criticism he gets is mostly based on the fact that he's not Harry Redknapp. The Daily Mail bloke wrote his autobiography for goodness sakes! There is so much of the season left that no one should be so short sighted to write this rubbish, its lazy journalism and Hansen should know better.

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  7. I'd also be remised if I didn't point out that the global transfer saga of Bale raised a lot of prices for Spurs' transfer targets. And they still had the lowest net spend in the league when all said and done

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  8. strongly disagree, very biased and one sided article.

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  9. Jaimie, you like to point of the amount of goals/assists Alberto and Aspas have contributed but what exactly have Eriksen and Lamela done for Spurs who combined cost them over 40m compared to 14m pounds?


    Lamela cannot even get into their starting eleven!!!


    Rodgers has done relatively well in the transfer market. The likes of Sakho, Alberto, Ilori, Coutinho, Allen, Sturridge and Mignolet are all long term purchases. The future looks bright :-)

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  10. another thing muppet Hansen has forgot to mention except for soldado and paulinho all the rest have been bloody INJURED at one time or another for long lengths or don't you keep up with information on teams Hanson or you another one just jumping on the bandwagon!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  11. I think this is our counter strategy to deceive Spurs,by claiming to go after so and so player and we all know where they end up

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  12. who REALLY gives a toss what Hansens drivelling about

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  13. AVB seems to be in a no win situation judging from what fellow LFC fans had to say. According to many on here, Baldini was credited with getting the star names especially in the wake of Ayre failing to get top targets so it may be a bit too hard to say a manager wasted money when its not his remit to scout and buy players.


    If it is tactical errors then AVB will rightly get the blame but Spurs are 10 points off top spot as well as being only 4 points behind LFC in 4th spot after only 13 games.


    AVB is not complaining about quality of his players unlike Rodgers who has brought 12 players to LFC but has deemed Mignolet, Sturridge and Coutinho to be the quality ones after complaining he lacks quality in depth after injuries to Sturridge and Coutinho who represent just 17% of the number of players he has signed.


    The worry here is both managers maybe harm-strung by having no clear say on who they want with Rodgers having to consult a committee while AVB may have consult or is simply told to work with what Baldini buys for the team


    All this really proves is that both clubs' people at the top hope to stumble to success with no one clearly responsible for what goes wrong.
    Both young managers are in their second season in charge with Rodgers' new players costing nearly £100mln against AVB's near £150mln in that time.


    Both clubs could have done better to use the bulk of that money to address areas that need addressing as well as getting players who slot into the manager's plans from the outset..


    These are confusing times for fans of the clubs or customers of the clubs according to Ayre.

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  14. Yes ,i thought the future was bright for Liverpool,then i saw them get hammered by Hull lol,just remember Spurs maybe going through a rough patch but we are only 4 points behind man city who are favs to win the premier and 3 points behind Liverpool..

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  15. Not easy to sign so many players for the first team and have them hit the ground running, especially when going from being overly reliant on one player last season. They haven't made many defensive signings this summer and that is part of their side that has looked solid for most of the season, whereas further forward, they have signed many players and have looked disjointed.

    Bit too early to bring out the grim reaper.

    Although some of their tactics are questionable, when you consider the imbalance at times. I do think the media darling Townsend has been too selfish at times with his play. Boy, they can be boring to watch too.

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  16. You're right - 13 games is DEFINITELY enough time to judge a player. I'm so glad that Spurs sold Bale after 13 games of under-performing. I've heard he now plays for Crawley Town. The same for Modric - I'm so glad we sold him in the first season after 13 games when he kept getting knocked off the ball and generally looked a bit rubbish. And I'm sure Arsenal are glad they got shot of that French guy whose name I can't remember - Terry or Lenny Henry or something - as he was disappointing after 13 games as well.


    Muppet.


    By the way, we MADE money this year when you include the sale of Bale, Caulker, Parker etc. Only Everton made more net. Why do people, like you, go on about the amount we spent and not take into account the amount recouped?

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  17. Is it relevant to talk about net spend, when the thread is about the players purchased?

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  18. Yet the players Rodgers signed this season can be put to task immediately?

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  19. Net spend left with left with Benitez. It is such yesterday's news.

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  20. Hanson should have said this in august, if he had said it then and not now then perhaps he would have been well thought.
    Hanson is the wisest man after the event......no wait!!!!!!!!!!

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  21. it does stand up... it's money and therefore has an indelible effect on the greater football economy. when the world record figure was paid for Bale, every transfer target's price went up also. Had Bale gone for 60m, say, you can be assured that each of those quoted prices would have been affected. perhaps not all would have been accepted, and Spurs would have moved on to other targets. but clearly there was a conscious decision to back the manager and spend all the proceeds. I understand that money is money and should always be spent wisely, but how can net spend not matter? the money wouldn't have been spent had they not received it. and more to the point, why are people STILL condoning the argument that the money is wasted??!

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  22. Are teams like Sheriff tiraspol and Tomso the kind of teams that make your point though Jaimie? In the end he has the same league record as Aspas.

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  23. Funny, if you read the full article Hansen is perfectly reasonable and speaks a lot of sense.


    This daft editing with an agenda by "JKTruth" (what utter dumb f**k calls themselves that?!?!) distorts the real picture

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  24. I am not saying the money is wasted per say. Just think that if you spend money on a player and it doesn't work out it is still money wasted. I think it's too early to judge the Spurs players but if they don't turn out no amount of money gained previously matters. Either that or we made money on the Andy Carrol-Torres deal and so it doesn't matter.

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  25. Net spend is the difference between TOTAL spent and SOLD.


    Without TOTAL spent there would be no SOLD. TOTAL spent is the most relevant.

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  26. seems like you have this scouting business down

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  27. Very harsh on Chiriches. Also Capoue- was playing very well before his injury.
    In terms of quality, I'd happily take any of Spurs summer signings, bar Chadli. The prices may have been inflated, but they're all good players. I still think they'll gel at some point- they've undergone quite a transition.
    Soldado and Lamela have both settled particularly poorly, but both have proven and undoubted quality, so I expect they will improve. Whether they will show their best quality is another question as plenty of excellent players just don't fit in certain clubs, at certain times etc.

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  28. Ah, come on. You don't like Hanson?
    Those lads were great.
    MMMbop? That was a choooooon!

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  29. Net spend is relative because it reflects the increased upheaval and risk involved in transfers. It is easier to bring in a couple of big names from a position of stability, as United have done for years, rather than losing your best player (Bale) and having to revamp the squad to try and cover his departure (and also generally improve the squad, of course).

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  30. I don't think Lamela has been given a proper chance yet. Only started 1 PL game. I know Townsend is the media's darling but he hasn't been all that as he goes down too many blind alleys. Bit strange not to see Lamela start some more PL games by now. Although despite the fee, quite a bit of his game is still at potential stage rather than proven, hence I get the question marks over the price tag. Still think he'll prove to be a very good player as he has the talent but needs time and games, which he hasn't had yet.

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  31. I'd agree with that. which is why most these comments are frustrating conjecture. All of it is moot until the players are fully tested and assessed. As a Spurs fan I hope this massive outlay, brought on by the Bale transfer, is spent wisely on good players for this season and many seasons to come. If not, it could be seen as an opportunity missed. Net spend is pretty important going forward though...we have the ability to dip back into the transfer market. And actually the Carroll - Torres deal is quite interesting. Of course 35m will be seen as a waste of money, especially because he was sold at a huge loss, but the structure of the deal, I believe, was that FSG wanted Carroll and 15m to play with. So when the Torres price came through so high, so did Carrol's. Hence the merry-go-round of money

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  32. Would any other club have paid 90 million for Bale? He is not worth that I am afraid.


    This makes Net spend such a skewed factor when judging transfer dealings. TOTAL spent is the dominant factor.

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  33. the TOTAL spent would not have been the total without the SOLD figure. they are inextricably linked. relevance all depends on how you frame your answer.

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  34. Would any other team have paid 90 million for Bale?


    Net spend is the most skewed figure to work on.

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  35. I agree with everything you've said.

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  36. they wouldnt have spent the money if they didnt have the deal 90m coming in! whether you like it or not, it HAPPENED. 90m happened. and everything else cant be isolated so you can make your little point. your disregard for net spend is pretty worrying.

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  37. I'm not disputing it is the dominant factor, but I don't believe, as many do, particularly pundits or people with an inclination to be critical (again, read: pundits!) that, for example, £50 mil spent when your squad is unchanged and intact is the same as £50 mil spent when you are trying to cover for certain losses.

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  38. So how much more should AVB have been given on to of the 90 million he got for Bale?


    AVB spent 109 million pounds on new players. That was what was paid out to each and every relevant club for the players they signed otherwise not one of those players would have joined Spurs. Net spend is just another excuse.

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  39. All you guys are dumb. All the players are top top internationals...and have achieved a lot in their careers already.

    Lol, Capoue hasn't played a game in 2 months. And was absolute class and a steal as seen in the first three games.

    Chiriches is already one of the league's best CB's, much better value for money than Sakho who cost twice the amount.

    Lamela is class, and takes time to settle in not knowing English, and being 21 is hard. But he is a class player who anyone in Italy will tell you. Being in their league team of the season last year, as well as being in the Argentinian national team at 21 y old.

    Eriksen has proved his class time and time again for Ajax. And against Chelsea as well. He unfortunately was injured for the 6-0 mauling by City, and United game as well. When he comes back, all the critics will shut up.

    Soldado is probably the only player who deserves criticism, but that's just because all the other players haven't given him enough service inside the box. He is a finisher. A fox in the box. And only in the box will he revel. Spurs have been cutting in and shooting for most of the chances created. But he also has the most number of chances created in the league by any front man which shows his creative, and technical side of his game as well.

    Chadli, has also been injured, and is a top top Belgian International, who is one of the first names his national manager, Marc Wilmots selects for his team. For 7m pounds and only 23, he will probably be the best value for money in the last two years of any team in the PL.

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  40. I wouldn't say that the Fulham game is what would do it, but if things don't get better soon, Armin Van Buren deserves the sack.
    All the players he bought were "hot items" not bets like Aspas, while they aren't expected to fully duplicate their past from from other leagues, at least show something, a couple of goals from open play maybe.
    If AVB doesn't get it right, it's no fault but his own - still a little too early to judge as there was a pretty big overhall, but the clock is ticking.

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  41. Total spent minus players sold = difference/net.


    Your difference/net is either going to be a minus or plus. It is that simple.

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  42. He made the difference when you guys won 3-2 over at Spurs last March or something. I remember his sub had affected the midfield battle, Dembele should have never played upfront with Sandro out. Any 1 of those games, we were so close to the Champs League ahhhhh!

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  43. His mobility isn't good enough any more. It isn't just his acceleration that has gone. You can get away with being fairly slow at AM, but you have to be mobile. Agile. Like Xavi. Not quick, but still dextrous. You see it when Gerrard tries to hit a volley nowadays. If you compare the awkwardness that is now commonplace in his ball striking to Gerrard in his pomp who was able to contort his body to wrap his foot around the ball, like against West Ham in the FA Cup final or against Real.

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  44. It's the complete package, not just league. Eriksen has made 42 appearances for Denmark. He's played 16 CL games for Ajax, facing teams such as Real Madrid, Dortmund and AC Milan. He's played in a European Championship. He's also won the league three years in a row with Ajax, which breeds a winning mentality. This is all great experience, and impressive for such a young player. If he wasn't any good, he wouldn't be playing in the CL consistently, and he wouldn't be a regular starter for Denmark.

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  45. There is no point in putting any argument forward for Allen. Trust me, you are wasting your time.

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  46. Thanks for the explanation.
    I guess with this comment, you have proven that you were definitely right all along.
    Discussion over, folks!

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  47. Disqus is killing me.. Again...

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  48. Their attack don't seem to be on the same page. They don't seem to compliment the way Soldado likes to receive the ball as his runs get wasted time and time again. Nor does he get many good crosses. Inside wingers (in this case Townsend) aren't going to cross early enough and when they do have a right footer there, it is Lennon and he can't cross consistently well, neither can the overlapping Walker. Their left wing is just useless in that department as Siggy just comes inside (and does nothing inside either, in terms of servicing Soldado), Townsend when he does play there is not a great crosser and they have a right footed left-back who doesn't cross much. I




    n terms of good crossing and getting passes that get beyond the opposition defensive line when Soldado is on the move, Soldado gets very little of it.


    Without Paulinho, they got no-one else that consistently tries to get in the box behind Soldado to give the opposition something else to think about.


    Soldado hasn't been great but he hasn't been helped by the awful attacking play around him and service. It is like the support act are on a different planet.

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  49. Ah, I see. That's what you pay £15m for these days; a player who makes an impact in one game every season :-)

    How did Allen make the difference? In LFC's own match reports/minute by minute commentary, Allen's name doesn't come up ONCE for doing anything of any significance:

    http://www.liverpoolfc.com/match/fixtures/first-team/liverpool-v-tottenham-7844/match-centre

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  50. All I am trying to say is that when your net figure is showing a minus then only will it be relevant as it will show that you have made a profit.

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  51. ℂ⋆ Kurt Ziya ℂ⋆7:01 pm, December 03, 2013

    was reading and pretty much agreeing with ur points (not hansens) then u said u wanted erikson to give lucas competition....lost all credibility with that statement....out of all them players capoue is the closest to lucas just alot more shit

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  52. With respect, perhaps you should read the article properly! I said Capoue would give Lucas competition, not Eriksen.

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  53. Undoubtedly yes, because he offers nothing to the team! He is superb at short-passing and ball retention, but you don't win things and/or progress by passing teams to death in the middle of the pitch!

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  54. But that is what Rodgers based last seasons football on. Strange that he has scrapped his original plan (for now) this season but you can be rest assured that he will go back to Tiki Taka sooner or later and that is where Allen rules the roost. That is why I keep on saying, time is on Allen;s side!

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  55. Exactly, then we sold Carrol for the £15m so it's almost like we sold Torres for £30m. Or that's what I tell myself on those sleepless nights. Your very right in regard to the financial strength of the club going forward but you hit the nail of my point on the head. It's the opportunity missed if things don't work out. It will always be big bucks that you will never get back.



    Oh Kenny why?!

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  56. It's silly for anyone to write off either Tottenham's or Liverpool's summer purchases already. We're 13 games into the season. These players have been signed on 5 year contracts, mostly. Not 5 months. Many of them have only played a handful of games. And most of them are young and new to English football.

    That's the problem with modern football fans. And pundits. No patience. As a Spurs fan who remembers when Liverpool were the best, it always struck me how they would routinely put new signings in the reserves for a number of months - learning the Liverpool way - before giving them a proper run in the first team.

    Strange that Hansen has forgotten that and has now fallen foul of the modern malaise.

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  57. AVB is not used to havin so much money to spend. His job at Porto was to make money by bying cheap and selling veery expensive. All managers in smaller leagues are always complaining that they have the vision but not enough money.
    And when he got it-it's a turning point as there are no more excuses and everybody knows he will spend big when he just sold for 100 mill. and he chikened out and bought solid players that might all fail, but very likely to have 3-5 to be extrodanery. He could make it to the second place or even title, and might finish 6th.. Third place is reacheble for them, but they might finish out of Europe.Same as us. But BR had more time adopting by just being in the EPL,and should (have) be(n) more succesfull..

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  58. Where did 'tiki-taka' get LFC last season? 7th place in the league. If Rodgers has scrapped that approach, it's a good thing. Majority possession is a good thing, but if there's no penetration/end product, it's meaningless.

    Arsenal have been playing that style of football for years, and where has it got them?

    The Premier League is the wrong competition to try and implement tiki-taka. The physicality and speed of the league mean (IMO) it's just not a feasible long-term option. Additionally, given the comparatively poor technique of English players (and the totally different philosophy of football drummed into them from childhood), it's very difficult to build a team in the Prem that can effectively play tiki-taka.

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  59. undoubtedly. I referenced Rafa because that was the last time we competed for anything i.e top transfer targets, champions league and the league itself. Yes he did buy dud's but overall he bought many top players who when they left provided us with huge profits i.e alonso, torres etc.



    Every manager will have dud's even fergie had his fair share. But no one notices because he was successful. Same with rafa - he was successful - so people dont reference the duds.



    Hodgson, KK and BR have had huge amounts of money either invested or from sales but in reality until this year we have seen little in performances. Yes KK got us to the league cup but league performances were poor - in terms of goals scored we were poor too.

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  60. He may want to be more involved. Rooney in the past has been guilty of ball chasing. British players tend to lack tactical discipline and often they want to be in a position where they can just get as much of the ball as possible in order to influence the game.
    I don't buy into this theory that Gerrard wants to play deeper though. I think Rodgers saying the other week that he could see Gerrard playing at centre-half shows where this is coming from.

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  61. He's an actor. we're up for failure.

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  62. We need these 5 players in that would cost Rodgers: 60-70M in January

    Two players to sort out our: diabolical, soft, lacking in creativity, lacking in scoring goals, unproductive, not mobile, sluggish, centre midfield:

    1: DM: M’Vila(23) Of Rubin Kazan for 10-14M to compete and Cover Lucas Leiva

    2: CM: Y Cabaye(27) Of Newcastle for 14-18M to compete and Cover Henderson

    Two class quality pacey quick creative goalscoring wingers on either wing:

    3: RW / RWF: M Salah(21) Of Basel for 12-16M to play on the right wing or right hand side of attack to compete and cover Sterling

    4: LW / LWF: D Capel(25) Of Sporting Clube De Portugal / Lisbon for 4-6M to play on the left wing or left hand side of attack to compete and cover IBE

    And a Back up/ under study striker to Sturridge:

    5: K Mitroglu(25) Of Olympiacos or L Remy(26) Of QPR, one of these two strikers should be brought to club for 4-8M

    These 5 players would cost club 60-70m but would help us Make the top 4 this season. But with our current pathetic weak squad, we will make top 6-10 which is not acceptable even thoughthat is what we have become over the last 5 and half seasons.

    I am very passionate, i love my team but we have too many dead wood average players at the club. And that is why we have become a top 6-10 side for last 5 and half seasons and that is the main reason why L Suarez wants to jump ship.

    If we brought in M’Vila(23) DM, Cabaye(27) CM, Capel(25) LW / LWF, Salah(21) and Remy(26) FD these five players are of Coutinho(21), Gerrard(33) and Sturridge(24) class and calibre.

    Whereas the likes Lucas (26) DM, Henderson(23) CM , Allen (24) CM, IBE(17) LW / LWF, Aspas(26) LW / LWF, Moses(22) RW /RWF and Stering(18) RW / RWF are nowhere near the calibre and class of Coutinho(21) , Gerrard(33) or Sturridge(24) let alone supporting Suarez(26) and when two out of the four of them are out of starting 11 it clearly shows how weak our squad is 25 man squad.



    We look at 4 Players to create and score goals consistently over season and if we lose two of them together we are in huge trouble. What does that say about our squad

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  63. if you rate Shaqiri as a good player worth playing for liverpool (and he is since he joined Bayern) then you must rate Salah the same way since he came as his replacement in Basel, scored the same amount of goals in fewer appearances, had many assists, and won the Swiss golden player of the year that Shaqiri won last year. He scored in 3 goals in 4 appearances against chelsea so he'll be able to deal with any defence in England. Assaidi played in Heereveen, probably the best team he played against was Ajax! Salah played last year in Europa league against chelsea and tottenham and Zenit and proved that he is world class in every game.

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  64. Potential value: £60million

    http://www1.skysports.com/transfer-centre/scout/15198/9048796/sky-sports-scout-mohamed-salah

    Shooting: 8 out of 10

    Passing: 8 out of 10

    Tackling: 5 out of 10

    Heading: 6 out of 10

    Pace: 8 out of 10

    Vision: 8 out of 10

    Current ability: 7 out of 10

    Potential ability: 10 out of 10

    OVERALL SCOUT RATING:60/80

    Current value: £20million

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  65. This january much better to LFC send back Victor Moses and Ally Cissoko. Both of them not so good and not fit for LFC team.The best players we can know from first kick start the ball but look like struggle and suufer for team LFC because using not good players.


    Jordan Henderson and Lucas Leiva also to comfort life at LFC.Some times ok but some times very bad....performance like a yoyo.Unstable.LFC must find out new players to compete their position.They are very happy and sleepy because no genuine players can compete and fight for their position.LFC must the midfielder who not only good defendsive but can assist.,creative and fighter to helping score the goal.The good team will having great players who can score the goal from any position.......YNWA.

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  66. Don't know the guy. I just have a recurring and simple comment; why the f&ck does Rodgers shot his mouth off and telegraph his intentions? I continue to be amazed how stupid that makes us look. I also don't get it when he says, ' as always we will go get the guys we want to get'. Where does that put Henrik M, Negredo, Lukaku, Benteke, Muriel etc, etc etc? I really want to like BR but sometimes I just shake my head.......

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  67. 24m may be a bit much but from what I have seen, he could be worth a gamble at that price. I watched his performances last year in the Europa League and he was outstanding. He had the Spurs team running scared. They didn't know how to handle him. Looks atop young player. Definitely superior than any wingers we have.

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  68. I have to ask. As much as you think Rodgers "should" buy these players,,what makes you think they would be interested in coming?. That's our problem, no one wants to play for us anymore, so Rodgers can't buy quality. He's doing well with what he currently has. And Alberto isn't deadwood, he's not even played a full game yet. He's a good footballer, give him his chance

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  69. Are sky trying to take fifa scouting from them?

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  70. World class? Way over the top

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  71. Out of those players we only genuinely wanted Mkhitaryan. The rest were paper rubbish!!

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