4 Sept 2013

'It's another smokescreen' - Steve Nicol accuses LFC star of lying to Reds fans.

A few hours before the summer transfer window closed, Liverpool striker Luis Suarez finally confirmed that he is staying at Anfield, claiming that he is 'happy' to be at the club, and 'happy' to have a 'future at Liverpool'. Well, if you believe that, you'll believe anything, and Anfield legend Steve Nicol is convinced that the Uruguayan is pulling the wool over fans' eyes once again.

On Monday evening, literally a few hours before the transfer window close, Suarez told reporters:

"For, me, it [leaving Liverpool] has been closed for some time.

"I wanted to play in the Champions League...and I said if there was something good, I would be interested, if not, then I am happy at Liverpool

"I made the decision to stay at Liverpool some weeks ago, and I want to stay and work for the team from now on"


Responding to Suarez's comments, Nicol told ESPN:

"Excuse me if I don’t get my trumpet out. If he [Suarez] had done this 4-5 weeks ago it might’ve been something, but with a couple of hours to go till the transfer deadline? I’m sorry, but this is another smokescreen from Suarez".

Nicol is (IMO) spot on. After months of rank insincerity, Suarez is the proverbial 'boy who cried wolf', and at this stage, his insistence that he's 'happy' at LFC has zero credibility. Just look at his comments:

* He only stayed at Liverpool because 'something good' didn't come along.
* He wants to play in the Champions League, and that hasn't changed.
* If he really decided to stay 'some weeks ago', why didn't he reveal that publicly?

I've argued repeatedly over the last year that Suarez would leave sooner rather than later, and I still believe that. And for the record: I never stated absolutely that he WOULD leave this summer, I merely stated that Suarez's exit was 'highly likely, and that turned out to be true. Over the last few months, was it not 'highly likely' that Suarez would leave Liverpool?

Come January, the transfer circus will begin all over again, and he'll follow exactly the same pattern:

* Regular public statements about being 'flattered' by the interest from other clubs.
* Refusal to deny reports linking him with moves away.
* Lots of needless interviews providing the opportunity for questions about his future.

Etc.

Until then, Liverpool will use him to get points on the board, and that's fine. It's the manager's job to utilise the club's playing assets in the best possible manner, and right now, Suarez is a major asset on the field.

What I personally don't want to see is Suarez get a new contract and a bumper pay-rise in January. Irrespective of how he plays between now and then, that would be a massive insult, and huge sign of weakness from the club.

I don't think that's a possibility though - Despite his protestations to the contrary, Suarez's heart is clearly no longer at Liverpool. He has his eye on a more 'interesting' club, and he's probably counting the days until he can finally quit Anfield.



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189 comments:

  1. imo if u want to go GO but for now we have him let's use him and sell him in the summer

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  2. Just use him like he's used us !!!!!!

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  3. Maybe he'll be out in January or next summer and Liverpool will replace him with another top class Striker. For now let's kiss and make up :)

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  4. Use him then bomb him if a good enough offer comes in at the next summer window!!!

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  5. does this help Liverpool ? or Nichols bank balance.

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  6. Nicolas Chamberlain3:19 pm, September 04, 2013

    Nicol shouldn't be talking about this, he doesn't know the guy and he never said he wanted to join Arsenal. The club refused him to sell and if we can be successful this season he could stay for several years. He won't be sold in january especially if we are up there. There was no transfer request nor legal action, the only thing Suarez should do is fire his agent.

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  7. Iam delighted that he is staying if we want to make top four we need Suarez. Let him go next season if he wants hopefully we will have qualified for the champions league and then we can attract the top players from europe.

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  8. I feel let down by Suarez as much as the next red, but let's be logical about this. He's still our player, he was awesome last season, let's get behind whater team br puts outs and keep supporting our great club. Time is a healer & on reflection what's more disappointing, Suarez wanting to leave for cl football or the fact that another will go by without cl football. Honest answer is the latter for me.

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  9. Suarez (finally) committed to Liverpool 2-3 weeks ago (as he said) - it won't take you long to trawl the internet to find confirmation of this. The recent comments about him staying were made when he landed in Uruguay on Monday when asked about his future. There was no way he could have been expecting to go because he was in another continent. Your first sentence represents your clear distain for him and nothing more. Whatever opinions people have about him, he is one of the best players in the world, desperate to play in the Champions league. He gave 100% trying to get us and him in the competition and we still came 7th. He might have been mis-advised regarding the clause in his contract, but he's staying (thank God) and with him in the team we have a better chance of doing better this year than all the pundits predicted.

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  10. Ok...dont know why this is even a topic any more. The transfer window is shut and he cannot go anywhere even if he wanted to now. Suarez may have wanted to leave, but the boy loves football so much, he will be nothing but professional everytime he steps onto the pitch and give nothing less than 100%. And if we have a succesful season and make it into the top 4, which I personally think we will (all the doubters can just go play in the sand, he will have a change of heart and get his wish to play in the Champions League with the mighty LFC. You can take that to the bank.

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  11. Suarez has 3 years left by the time those are gone he wouldn't be worth much.

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  12. Something interesting....he makes me laugh....of course Suarez is now saying he is happy to stay at the club, he has no choice on the matter and cannot go anywhere!!! That was not what he saying a few weeks ago until no one else came for him.
    When the mid December-January rumours start spreading about he will use the same tactic, specially if we are not where near the top 4.
    Of course, fans will see this as reaffirmation of his loyalty, when is fact is totally the opposite.

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  13. That's not how he was behaving in training...he was even ordered to train by himself due to a lack of effort, now that he has no choice but to stay of course he will come out with the quoted.
    It's just predictable really.
    Amazing player? Of course, yes.

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  14. nearly all players leave sooner or later,its football,bale refused to train ,suarez did not ,end of discussion

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  15. If 100% involves biting people and getting suspended for long periods, Luis can you tone it down to 90% ;)

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  16. Just use this player to achieve our goals (Champions League qualification) this season and sell him to the highest bidder in the summer. Champions League qualification plus the name of LFC, I'm sure we can attract good players as replacement. Anyway it's more likely he will cook up another soap opera style transfer saga in case we don't. So for now, we just cast all these irrelevant distractions aside and focus on our games instead.

    3 down and 35 more to go! Great results so far! YNWA!!!

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  17. Giving 100% does not excuse his behaviour and the lack of respect he has shown the club. I am sure you know the things I am reffering to.
    Many players are credited with giving 100% for their clubs but they don't do some of the things he does in the pitch, hopefully there won't be any such incidents this season.

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  18. No, it's not the 'end of discussion'. Bale has nothing to do with LFC, or Suarez, or the points being made here.

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  19. he was ordererd to train alone because he said rodgers had promised him he could go,and he would train alone ,we all heard him say sorry(well no we did not ,the club said he had)it was nothing to do with effort more to do with denting peoples egos

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  20. What? He can't have an opinion?

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  21. there is no defending suarez ,with players that or here or past players,he is undefendable in your eyes and as been since day one

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  22. i think that could be the best advice anyone could give him! :-)
    He lost it and was desperate to make up for giving the PK away against Chelsea - he tried to con the ref into giving us a penalty, then bit ivanovich and asked the ref to book him.

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  23. Just way to much negativity around when it comes to my beloved LFC. As I said, go play in the sand.

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  24. Suarez,sturridge,moses,coutinho,gerrard,lucas,johnson,enrique,sakho,agger and mignolet
    bench jones,toures,iloris,henderson,allen,sterling and aspas
    with Kelly,skrtel ,cissoko and allen in the fringes
    I think skrtel should go

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  25. But of course, he came to Liverpool with an already tainted reputation from Holland. And as predicted he done the same at Liverpool.

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  26. i agree with twhat you've said 100%, although there aren't many players as talented as him that give it everything. bash suarez for his mis-demeanors by all means, but it is incorrect for Nicol to insinuate he only committed to staying on monday. I understanding jaimie joining in because he is clear and consistent about his views on players cheating and no fan of LS, but i think this was the wrong example to use to beat him with...

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  27. Nichol might be right but this is not the time to bring this up , liverpool fans are probably the most clued up on football and no what SUAREZ really wants, but do we care about it if we get in the top 4 and he plays a big part getting us there ??? I certainly don't mind, end of the day we have got 1 of the top 4 players in the world coming into a team that have an immaculate start to the season and are top of the league ! So let's not rock the boat please Steve nicholl !!!

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  28. so you pay your money you take your chance,we have had 2 fantastic seasons of him (football wise )and we could have made a decent profit on him if we decided to sell,we did not ,so we have to take him as we find him baggage and all,

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  29. If he does his best for LFC for the remaining time he at LFC then fair enough, if he goes whenever I don't mind, because we will get a replacement in. Also I'm hearing Suarez might sign a new contract with a proper buy out clause inserted.

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  30. I'm sorry but I honestly cannot see what Nicol said that was so wrong. If Real Madrid came in with a bid on Monday the likelyhood that he would push for a move is great. Why? Because he has been flirting with them all season.
    He is an amazing player, but SG gives 100% in every match but he does not behave like LS has done.
    The honest truth is that Suarez made those comments to appease the fans because he was had no choice but to abide by his contract as there was no other offers on the table and no chance of leaving. IMO Nicol is just expressing an opinion which IMO seems correct.

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  31. I don't know why Liverpool would give him another contract honestly.

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  32. i think it's his motives for commenting that Bobby is questioning (plus you know i think nicol is talking sh*t). i would prefer if some of our ex-players understood the 'liverpool way' as well as 99% of the fans do. We've washed our dirty laundry in public for long enough - time for us to come together and get back where we belong.

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  33. Why is it not the time? Window just ended, Suarez flirted with RL all season and now that he has no choice but to stay he suddenly reaffirms his commitment to the club! And he's still banned.
    Nicol is entitled to his own opinion to be honest.

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  34. that might be true but he was on a long flight to Montivideo. he landed Monday afternoon - there was no way he was looking to sign for anyone else. my view on Suarez (for the little it's worth) is he is the kind of person who sets clear goals for himself, and people that do that can be high achievers but also at times unreasonable. He let us down, and now he needs to do his bit to see that the past stays in the past and we all move forward together

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  35. LFC have had 1.5 seasons of total disrespect from Suarez. No player in the entire history of LFC has caused more problems for the club, and the fact he scored some goals doesn't make that okay.

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  36. maybe because the contract he has is not crystal clear,and if he signed a new contract which was, then they could be no argument by either side ,plus it would also help defuse any bad feelings between the two parties ,suarez could carry on doing what he does best playing fantastic knowing that is future was clear ,and we would be in a win win situation ,either we get champions league and he stays or goes (depending on whats in the contract)or we do not get champions league we would put a higher clause in his contract say 60 million,and suarez will have to perform at the highest level to get his move

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  37. He was ordered to train alone because he massively disrespected LFC. It's that simple. No amount of pro-Suarez revisionism will change that.

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  38. Footballwise yes but let's forget how long he has been banned for nonsense.
    LFC have the right to demand the correct fee for him. If they offered us Bale money then I am sure we would have taken it, but the £40M offered is not enough comparing to the football market at the moment.
    Trust me I want him to leave but on our terms, not his.

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  39. What is your point? Is Nicol not entitled to his own opinion? Should he only have views on LFC that match yours?

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  40. With all due respect, give me a break (!) Nicol knows more about the so-called 'Liverpool Way' than me, you and 99% of LFC fans out there. He *lived* it; he directly experienced it, and he has every right to have his view.

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  41. I'll be honest I'm surprised he's still here. And it's the second thing I was wrong on, Toure being the first, but I'm no expert lol. In ways it's a good thing, as long as he doesn't do anything stupid (He probably will) he'll be a good asset for us till January or the summer and get a proper replacement in then. As for the new contract, if we put in a buy-out clause of something crazy like £55-60m wouldn't that be a good thing? IF he comes back and does the business till Jan he could go for that money if Real need him in the winter Window.

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  42. Suarez's future IS clear: he has three years left on his current contract. End of story. Players don't have legally tenuous clauses like 'LFC must qualify for the CL or I'm off' in their contracts.

    The only bad feeling created her is by Suarez. LFC have done everything for him, and backed him to the hilt countless times. Suarez pi$$ed all over that support, and deserves to be bombed out of the club.

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  43. if suarez future is clear for the next 3 years why did you state yesterday he will leave sooner rather than later ,if he stays for 5 years i would say thats quite a long time in modern football

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  44. Once again, another misinterpretation. What you've said has nothing to do with me believing Suarez will leave soon. When I say his future is clear, I'm obviously referring to his contractual status, which stipulates that he has a three year deal.

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  45. it wasn't clear to Suarez and his team, and gordon taylor said these clauses are a bit of a minefield. I dont have a problem with it being a new agreement being reached

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  46. It wasn't clear to Suarez because he tried to twist the meaning to suit his situation. IMO, he knew exactly what the clause meant, but he tried to twist it and use it as a way out of the club. These clauses don't just appear out of thin air; they're discussed/debated before being inserted into the contract, and Suarez's lawyer would've checked it over and explained it to him before he signed the contract.

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  47. that's opinion not fact. My opinion is that is incorrect.

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  48. I didn't say it was a fact. On the balance of probabilities, who is more likely to understand the Liverpool Way? Someone who played for LFC, and was immersed in the culture of the club for over 10 years, or fans, who watch from afar, and have no idea what goes on behind closed doors?

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  49. Always negative BS on this page, Suarez is a pool player for now like it or not. Get the best out of him and if at the end of the season we don't get cl football let him leave. Nothing more to be said on the subject. Try to be more positive lads.

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  50. Nicol, Kraft, pot, kettle, black, stfu.

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  51. I was just wondering when you were going to apologise to all those who kept saying we believed FSG, Ian Ayre etc when they said we won't keep hold of Suarez. 'Delusional' was the your comment, he is going. Any comments Jamie? Maybe a hint that you were wrong! :-)

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  52. you did say "Nicol knows more about the so-called 'Liverpool Way' than me, you and 99% of LFC fans out there".
    I think it's very possible that many life long liverpool supporters could understand it a bit better, but that's just an opinion. My view on this is Nicol is wrong for reasons given earlier.

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  53. I have no idea what the truth is and you may well be right, but for the avoidence of any further potential mis-understandings a new agreement might not be the worst idea

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  54. Sorry, but I don't understand the point you're making.

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  55. Sorry mate I don't believe anything Nicol is saying because he is the one who came out supporting Suarez when he told the telegraph he was promised to live if we do not make CL. He said Suarez acted honorably by completing his part of the deal, without knowing LFC side of the story.

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  56. In all fairness, given you were having virtually the same argument, and at some length, just a day ago (in the Borini loan piece comments) I'd be surprised if you don't understand the point or your memory is really that bad. Either answer him or even refer him to yesterday's response but don't be deliberately obtuse, you wouldn't accept that yourself as a response.

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  57. is that not what i said earlier about the contract a win win situation

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  58. Suarez has turned himself into a toxic asset, all these people dreaming that he will return and everything will be rosey in the garden are deluded.


    The guy will say anything/do anything to try and get what he wants, i predict that he will be a constant thorn in BR's side when he returns, thankfully we are top of the league after 3 straight league win's without him, to be totally honest i am dreading his return from his latest and lengthy ban, we should have cut our losses and flogged him abroad instead of dumping the problem onto BR who he has publically put down and shown enough disrespect to warrant being thrown into the reserves to rot.


    It won't end well, he has the potential to derail our progress, he will remain toxic of that im sure, the reason for this is simple, too many of our own fan';s are willing to allow him to do whatever the fuck he wants, whether it is right for the Club or not, he won't have learned anything from all of these saga's, he doesn't give a damn, he know's the fan's will be back in his pocket as soon as he returns, player power gone completely and utterly mad, that is Suarez.

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  59. if he signs i knew contract i am sure it will be crystal clear on both sides ,with no room for misinterpreation ,it would be the best thing imo for both club and player ,we could have a proper clause in it ,suarez would have the determination to show hes worth ,lets say 60million,everyones a winner,and who knows if we get champions league he may be here for longer ,its fine to question suarez,s loyalty but when you out live your use to the club what loyalty will they show the players,downing wanted to stay and fight for his place ,but he must have been told he had no future whatsoever at anfield

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  60. Ian St John was sent off six times. Six! And was forever suspended. I'm not comparing them, exactly, but we've had some proper reprobates at Anfield in the past -- Suarez isn't the first; not unarguably the worst, either. What about Ruddock? The man was an embarrassment.

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  61. Seriously, you're comparing Suarez's indiscretions with a player being sent off? Fans will do anything to trivialise Suarez's issues. And why was Ruddock an 'embarrassment' exactly? What did he do wrong? Nothing is the answer.

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  62. 'But I want to say now that, if you want to know what will happen to me if we don't qualify for the Champions League, then I will say this: I have a contract with Liverpool and I am very happy here. I will stay.'



    This is what Suarez said last year in February. In August last year he signed a new contract. There was a clause added in the contract at Suarez' request and his agent and lawyer would helped him adding the clause into his contract.


    To suggest that Suarez and Co did not know what they were signing is rather disturbing. Mind you, Suarez is not all there upstairs but then that says even less about both his agent and attorney...


    Suarez was trying to force his way out of the club and it backfired.

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  63. What is the point? The club knows that he wants to leave. Why would they want to offer him a new contract by increasing his wages? That is not going to keep him at Anfield is it?


    He will be gone by next summer. The highest bidder will win the prize.

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  64. FSG did great and so did IAN AYRE

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  65. The new contract rumour smells like a load of dog poo to be honest.

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  66. Completely agree that when the transfer market opens again he will be looking to leave.


    This would be a good time to sell him as players usually sell for above their worth.


    We have a player who on his day can be one of the best in the world and he is also not cup tied so I expect a few teams who are in the CL looking for reinforcements to come sniffing.


    If we can get 50+ mil for him then sell him...

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  67. Was any of those sending off's and bans for Racially abusing a player or biting a player...


    No, didn't think so

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  68. Wasn't Gerrard calling RVP a "f'n prick" and a "wanker" on live TV, broadcast worldwide to millions, seen by the eyes of babes???. Not exactly exemplary behavior would you say?? Personally I don't care, I don't believe footballers are saints, nor need to act this way.

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  69. In almost any other walk of life Suarez would be chased for his behaviour on and off the field (ie his bringing the club into disrepute). Sadly this is football. Somehow I think he will get another contract on the basis that as an asset his value will quickly diminish as the current contact winds down.
    Unfortunately money rules everything in football and as long as he continues to perform on the pitch he will be forgiven, rewarded and feted.

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  70. I suspect he will be gone during the winter.. CL clubs looking to strengthen and he is not Cup Tied.

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  71. ...I responded to this particular comment of yours before but, after appearing for 20 mins or so, it's now disappeared? I'd just like to know why it's been removed as given it was polite I can't for the life of me see the reason for the censorship?

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  72. This gave me a good laugh :P

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  73. I think that Jamie must be paid by Nicol yo post his interviews Steve Nicol talks crap all the time and his opinion means shit. Fair enough he playefor Liverpool but his opinion is generally wrong or otherwise bollox. Also Jamie u never seem to be happy and always seem to base majority of "articles" on anu negativity around the club. Seriously if u didnt appear on newsnow I wouldnt bother my hole. U we're convinced Suarez was gone all summer and now your wrong u cant let it go ( u may not have typed that directly but you never let it go all summer). Do me a favor when your chatting to auld Nicol smack him one from me. Be happy we are top of the league and stop witht the scaremongering.

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  74. Good one.

    Suarez obviously is not the sharpest tool in the shed :-)

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  75. Nicol is just jumping on the Suarez bandwagon - no matter what the guy does there is always a "story" to be told, and people will gobble it up.


    Let's just wait for the real story, when he's back on the pitch doing what he does best playing football, we'll see how many complaints there are then.


    So he wanted a move? Lots of players do this, sure he didn't employ much tact in doing so, but do you think he's reading Macchiavelli and the Art of War making meticulous plans to get out? No. He winged it, got bad advice from his agent, and it blew up in his face. At the end of the day he is the same guy that was hired, a very hungry player with ambitions to reach to the top, who fights tooth and nail for his team - at no point has he not done this. If he sulked once or twice in training months before he would play again, it's not the end of the world. In about 3 weeks time, Liverpool games will be more entertaining, and have a better chance of being won - which is what it's all about.


    As for a bumper contract, I see your point of view, but don't agree it's in the best interest of the club not to do this. The pros outweigh the cons in improving the contract 1) clears the air 2) shows good faith on the clubs part. 3) motivates the player to perform (adding value should he be traded and 4) signals to other potential players that Liverpool will pay competitive salaries for top players - atm Suarez is making half of what he could make elsewhere.

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  76. OR REBEL WITHOUT A CLUE

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  77. Gorden Taylor backing the bastion of morality at 3 to 1 kepstow

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  78. Got bad advise from his agent? Did his agent also tell him to bite players on two occasions?


    Suarez is nothing but trouble wherever he goes.


    The sooner we get rid the better.

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  79. For now there's no use in whining about it - wait till January and see it goes - bet he'll have racked up more goals than Sturridge by then...



    Why always bringing up old $hit???

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  80. Sturridge will be the striker. Suarez will be pushed out wide so his goals will become less. If Moses shows up like Coutinho did then he might noty even be able to get into the team.


    Sturridge already has a better scoring record than Suarez and has only been at the club since January.

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  81. the quote '' The present has to be our goal ,because it is the only thing that exisits'' sums up suarez he is here whether you like it or not so we may as well make the best of it

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  82. I agree. Great to see someone else seems to think so. I think they get far too much stick for doing things the right way.

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  83. Yeah, he'll have to fight for a place on the team, maybe he should go on loan to somewhere so he can improve and get game time. Get real.



    My question is what are you going to do when he scores? Going to turn the channel, pretend it didn't happen, boo??? Or are you going to pretend you weren't hating on him.



    He's the best player on the team, and the PL for that matter - Liverpool is lucky to have him, the fact that he might flirt with others is just a part of being married to a rockstar. Get over it already.

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  84. what about that keeper who laughed at the 96? now that disrespectful. come on Jaimie, even as fans we know suarez's ambition, and OF COURSE we dont want him to leave, but if he did we'd understand, as 7th place is not good enough. point is suarez is not the most disrespectful player in LFC history, thats definately a lie. hes had a few on-pitch downfalls and thats about it.

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  85. No No No. You have got it upside down.


    Suarez is lucky to be able to play for a club like Liverpool.


    If Shankly was still here he would have told Suarez to hit the road.

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  86. Kinda funny that Jamie K states that all are entitled to their own opinion, but attacks all that don't agree with him... '

    You really don't impress me JK, and never did to be honest. Being in love with LFC is not the same as all ex Liverpool players are right.

    For one i love the abilities of LS, and on the other hand i dislike his behaviour and how he's treated LFC fans. But what it all comes down to is, that we wan't top 4 and we'll have way better chances with LS in our team. So the dilemma is to sell out and accept LS, or keep our integrity and let him go and be top 8...

    My choice is easy!

    YNWA

    @LFC arguements are not always read correct. :-)

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  87. Or perhaps his agent more like :O

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  88. Yes, and players like Suarez are just lining up to play for Liverpool. Even Mkhtransalvanians and co. are going elsewhere. It might be a period of transition or whatever, but at this point in time having Suarez is more of a positive for LFC than it is for LS.

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  89. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.


    Suarez is the tool.

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  90. Compare that to the LFC players who accepted bribes from Man U, and threw the game to keep ManU in the top division, to me, thats worse.

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  91. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.



    What is Pere Guardiola still his agent though?


    Suarez = lights are on but nobody is home.

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  92. What is Pere Guardiola still his agent though?

    Suarez = lights are on but nobody is home.

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  93. Cause he keeps on doing the same old 'old $hit' ;)

    'Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me'

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  94. We are unbeaten since he got banned.


    Clearly we are doing fine without him.


    Sahko could have gone to any team on the planet. We will not get every big name player but still have plenty of pulling power.

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  95. ...hmm, just one of those "it's good to be the king" things then?

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  96. 'end of the day we have got 1 of the top 4 players in the world coming into a team'


    wow, one of Messi, Ronaldo, Xavi, or Iniesta coming to Liverpool. That would be some coup.

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  97. We'll have to disagree on that one - either way, I'll leave it at that. When he's back I doubt you'll be complaining about him. If Rodgers and FSG believed that the team would be continue their current run without him, he would have been sold already.

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  98. to be fair and i appreciate i might come in for some flack but the only lie from Luis Suarez this summer is the lie about the british media forcing him out. All he wanted was champs league and everyone before the comment of the media would have understood that reason for wanting to leave. Yeah his words of im happy now etc may or may not be genuine but im sure he wont really care about any of all this if liverpool are sitting pretty in top 4 come january. He may not be everyones favourite right now but when he comes back and puts 100% in for the club again, nobody can really complain then, after all even through adversity he has always put a shift in for the team, in life in work there are people we dont neccessarily like or care about much but like i said you cant have any complaints if they put 100% in, something that i believe comes natural for Suarez. He will leave like all players at some point leave. Not one player is bigger than the club and its now time to stop talking about this particular player and just support the club. There are so many positives after this transfer window to talk about whether it be the strength in depth that we now seem to have in most areas, non more so than our defence. We have young talented players coming through and alot of them english. We are unbeaten in 3, having not conceded and i believe our attacking play will get better as time goes on. Lets not speculate on things such as new contracts for suarez and what signs that may or may not show, as its not january yet and we have no idea about things like that. Lets just stick to whats going on right now and for me its all positive.

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  99. life is not fair then you die;-)

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  100. Again you are wrong.


    Only Arsenal and Madrid made serious efforts to sign him.


    FSG refused to sell him to another EPL club and Madrid's offer was to low.


    If Madrid had offered 50 million pounds then maybe FSG would have allowed him to leave.

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  101. now that is what a call a great comment

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  102. .....I'll book a coffin now then. :)

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  103. You were right Going on probability standards ( highly likely) but we all know every true RED is happy he stayed with us for now than not! Can you truly say yr happy?? Only you know that answer. Maybe its Yes or maybe it's no? Don't give us bullshit probability standards. Get me?

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  104. not just yet you may have a few months left;-)

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  105. "I didn't mean to break both of his legs if I'm honest, I only meant to break one" - Ruddock



    Nothing is not the answer. He could be a piece of work at times, Razor. A neanderthal at times and still is from the way he reminisced about it. In that video where he says that, blatantly obvious that he took joy in taking the player out.

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  106. Times-a-changing. Less tolerance.

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  107. What about Diouf spitting?? what about Bellamy hitting Riise with a golf club and i am sure there are plenty more i could find with the power of GOOGLE, i do not condone his actions nor do i support them, Its clear that LS is a marmite type of guy and JK clearly doesn't like marmite - does this make JK a bad person? not at all every single person is entitled to his/her point of view.


    That said LS is the type of player that would always give his best to WIN (points to the world cup and the handball incident). Are we a better team with him? Without a doubt.


    i personally thing he wont be going anywhere this season, if we fail to qualify to for CL, he will be on his way, that is a given.

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  108. Only Aresenal and Madrid? Not exactly Swansea and Sunderland is it?



    So he's ONLY doubled in value - just a 50M player whose impact on the team is what? Negative?


    Perspective. the team has done alright, scraped by with some ugly wins, and is top of the table. The end of last season there was nothing left to play for, except for pride - you can't read too much into these results. Luck has favored Liverpool, but it can't last too long, this is where Suarez comes in - has that X factor that no other player has. With an overall better team than last season (new players, plus added players have adapted), results will only improved, Suarez is the key element to success - he get results that are larger than the sum of all the parts.

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  109. A little harsh there JK "he deserves to be bombed out of the club.", i get that you don't like him and i appropriate that. But you must see that "we" have more chance of achieving our goals this season with him in the team?

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  110. Seriously, you are one of the most deluded fan I have ever seen.

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  111. Madrid cam into late and where told not even to bother upping there bid, hence they didn't return with an improved offer..FACT

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  112. Honestly, I think he wanted to go, however the club stopped him, and in his head he has turned it into it still all being his choices. When he came out with the comment about not wanting to move for sometime, my first thoughts were hahahaha you what Suarez?

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  113. he has no option but to put that spin on it.....its been a sorry episode which will twist and turn for the foreseeable future ...but who knows he may be here for 5 months or 5 years

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  114. indeed it has been. Still he is extremely talented and will only add to our front line, so for me, its all good. I want CL footy as a min, and I think we have more chance of getting that with him than without. Who knows what will happen in Jan. If we are top he might want to stay, but I have a feeling if Real came in he would go, regardless of how well we were doing. I dont have a issue with that tbh, just as long as he keeps his mouth shut this time lol

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  115. Does anyone else think Rodgers is going to play 3- 5-2 with all those centre backs? , initially I thought Rodgers was very strict on his 433 but he has played a lot of different formations including 442 and 532. It is probably the only way of playing sturridge and suarez in their favourite positions.
    mignolet , toure,sakho,agger,johnson,gerrard,lucas,enrique/cissoko,coutinho,sturridge and suarez
    bench jones iloris/skrtel cissoko/Kelly , allen ,Henderson ,moses and aspas
    the only way we can play all our top players in their idea positions

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  116. If thats the case he should be keeping his mouth firmly shut then

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  117. He may have surprised us with his antics over the summer, but We all know he's likely to go next summer even the Jamuary window if Liverpool want to sell or if in fact his new contract now has a proper clause for him to leave.
    This is all old ground and we don't need anymore negativity clouding the good name of Liverpool Football Club.
    Lets be positive for this season and get behind the players, manager and club as a whole. We're known globally as some of the best DNA in the world so lets act like it.
    What will be will be.
    YNWA
    Jay

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  118. The best Fans (DNA?) dunno how that got in there.

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  119. He wants champions league and why shouldn't he? He might get it here, you never know!

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  120. Is it me or does nichol seem to have only negative things to say. He needs to get a job or a hobby because he is talking a pile of rubbish. Saurez needs to save face so get over it. It's called human nature. He tried, he failed and once he is on the pitch scoring who gives a flying toss? I am personally more sick of Nichol bellyaching a out the club!

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  121. As deluded as those fan who thought the club died when Rafa was given his marching orders?


    I think not.


    Nobody is bigger than the club :-)

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  122. Liverpool was here before Suarez arrived and will continue to be here once he leaves.


    LFC would have finished 7th last season without his goals. It is not like his goals made much of a difference since he arrived?

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  123. Ah, so you think Suarez would have stayed if FSG accepted a bid from Madrid?


    So much for the loyalty...

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  124. I think everyone concerned with the club know he's with us until a one of the big boys makes a bid for him.

    I'm just chuffed at the fact he must feel like a numpty for the way he went about things. We all would have begrudgingly accepted him leaving if Madrid or barca came in for him but ofcourse they didn't and he made his feelings quite clear.

    From now on in. He's on borrowed time just another player who we'll support every time he puts that LFC jersey on. Will he be revered as a legend? No chance. What a shame.

    However, we all need to accept unfortunately foreign players will always look to move abroad this is why it's critical that we find British players to firm the spine of our side. It's all about Sturridge for me at the moment. Forget the guys performance for a minute he just comes across like a great professional. Humble, hard working, hungry and keeps his head down.

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  125. On another note. So refreshing to see a LFC side with some genuine fakir in the side. I can't wait to see sturridge, Suarez and coutinho on the same pitch not forgetting Moses, Gerrard, Johnson and Enrique.

    :-)

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  126. AndWithSuchSimplicity11:48 pm, September 04, 2013

    He hasn't been done for drink-driving, or battering someone in a bar, as far as I can remember........

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  127. AndWithSuchSimplicity11:54 pm, September 04, 2013

    I think if we got Champions League qualification PLUS a cup, he would stay anyway..................

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  128. AndWithSuchSimplicity11:55 pm, September 04, 2013

    I think Henderson deserves to start every game at the minute.

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  129. AndWithSuchSimplicity12:00 am, September 05, 2013

    And if he HADN'T said he is committed to the cause, you would have still moaned.
    He couldn't win, whatever he said.

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  130. AndWithSuchSimplicity12:01 am, September 05, 2013

    lowest form of wit

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  131. AndWithSuchSimplicity12:07 am, September 05, 2013

    Double-edged sword this one I'm afraid. On one hand we have managed to keep a genius player on the books (for the time-being at least).
    On the other hand we have approximately 110 days of Jaimie Kanwar's vitriolic anti-Suarez blogs to put up with until the next transfer window.


    Spiffing.

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  132. AndWithSuchSimplicity12:08 am, September 05, 2013

    I'll be further than his back pocket if he scores at Old Trafford.

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  133. AndWithSuchSimplicity12:12 am, September 05, 2013

    If FSG accept a bid, surely the player doesn't have much choice but to leave?????

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  134. AndWithSuchSimplicity12:13 am, September 05, 2013

    I'm happy.

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  135. AndWithSuchSimplicity12:16 am, September 05, 2013

    I was quite upset that we were losing ESPN, til I realised that opinionated overly-rotund ginger moaner would not be on my telly any more.

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  136. gettin suarez to sign a new contract is good business from lfc. it means we can get a decent transfer fee if he's tied down to a long-term contract.

    if he's gonna leave then get 50m-plus rather than let him go for 15m with a year left on his contract.

    after this summer, i will never question fsg's intentions again. they mean business

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  137. Nicol seems to see himself as a hard man pundit; the Simon Cowell of the football punditry world, telling it how it is ( unless it's about his mate Kenny). Not sure how successful he is at that though.
    To illustrate, lets see how this paragon of The Liverpool Way understands the Liverpool of 2013: When asked about LFC signing CBs he said 'I don't think they will' Finger on the pulse , Steve.
    LFC having signed Sakho, NIchol was asked on ESPN what he thought of our signings, His view on Sakho? Inexperienced, young guy just learning his trade, Moses is the most impressive signing.
    200 appearances for PSG, their youngest ever captain at 17, their previous player of the year and a full French International... thanks for that, Steve.
    So you'll forgive me for ignoring his latest rant about Suarez and making my own mind up on his utterings..

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  138. So he asked the Player's Union to look into it knowing full well there was no such stipulation?
    If you say so

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  139. I think it's a possibility, especially if Sakho can play DM well, then drop back into a back 3 then act as a DM when we're attacking and lose possession

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  140. What do you mean? He had nothing but good things and supportive stuff to say when Kenny was Manager

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  141. Oh yes, I remember now.
    Must have changed his mind

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  142. Oh yes, I remember now.
    Must have changed his mind Suarez isn't honourable anymore

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  143. I don't get it. Suarez is staying. He is "happy" to stay in so much as he's not going to sit in a corner and sulk. He'll play for his team and do what is required. No one thinks he's put his personal ambitions aside for good. No one thinks this is some devotion of love towards Liverpool where he'll do anything for the club. So what is the smokescreen? Who is he trying to fool? We know he'll be a transfer target for teams in every window and it's simply up to the club to decide how best to handle that. He's told us all now, in no uncertain terms, that he wants to compete at the highest level. Despite how he's handled it, there is nothing really wrong with that level of ambition, it's just that he's been quite thoughtless and disrespectful in his public comments on the matter.


    I wonder if Nicol still has in his mind some unrealistic model of football players who devote their careers to a club and do what is best for team, even to sacrifice their own ambition. Such players exist, but Suarez is not one of them, and he's not trying to convince us otherwise. If fans or pundits decide to believe otherwise that's up to them, but in fact Suarez has never been anything other than upfront about his personal ambition. His immediate intentions have not always been clear, but it's never been hidden that Suarez want's to play at the best clubs and in the best competitions. He's said that from day one and only a somewhat confused fan would think that playing at LFC satisfies that ambition. It doesn't, so Suarez wants more. If we're still near the top of the league in January maybe he'll change his view on where we are, or maybe he won't. That's entirely up to him and no one has any right to demand he change his mind.


    So no, I just don't get this latest round of indignation. Suarez isn't trying to fool anyone, he's just stating that he's happy to stay at the club for now and do what he normally does which is to play football. He didn't rule out seeking a transfer later on so no, it's not a smokescreen. He's going to make the best of his current situation. So he's "happy". Why is this in any way an issue? Why are we still banging on about it? If it's so embarrassing and harmful to the club, why are we making a bigger issue about it and propagating it further? Why are pundits and bloggers still bringing it up and making it a bigger problem? Just leave it alone, it is what it is, we know what it is and until something actually important is said I don't know why we are so obsessed with it.

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  144. Saying that Suarez's exit was highly likely and then saying it turned out to be true doesn't make sense, given that Suarez remains with us. I think everyone understands what you were trying to say though. Cheers

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  145. Put Luis anywhere on the field apart from GK, he was, is & 'll be a better player than Sturridge. Not that I am disgracing Stu, but this man Luis is only behind the 2 boys playing in Spain (not the over hyped & over priced Brit going there recently).


    Suarez might have other issues, but none should devalue him as footballer. Natural football talent is so rare in UK that whenever any young Englishman (Brit) does well, the Peles, Maradonas, Platinis or these days Messis or Ronaldos start to get being insulted.



    I think he 'll leave, much earlier than I would have liked & that's probably a win-win situation. No issues as long as it brings another 50m, for that I am sure now we have a Manager who 'll not blow that amount on size or passport (& his admirers to blame the poor DoF). What I want from him is, one last season like last year.

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  146. The final whistle of the Zenith match at Anfield gave me a picture - a dejected, bitter footballing genius. That cold night Luis Suarez everything that a footballer can dream off, comparable to any great day of certain CR07 or current Barca No 10, yet it wasn't good enough, even for Europa league. Luis was frustrated with the level of his team & mates for that he could measure the extent of his team's capability.


    Luis wanted to leave LFC, desperately so, for that someone like him can't waste best few years of career fighting for a Europa place, for mighty Carling or FA Cup. I don't blame him, I can't, just like I still cherish every great moment of El Nino. Suarez would had given the TOP 2 of world a good chasing for Ballon de oorr, had he played for someone like Bayern, Real, Chelsea or MCity; just like in 2009 Nando would have done, had we been EPL Champs.


    Luis is a born competitor, a street fighter, whose frustration might come out in an ugly way, but no denying his commitment to his team - be Uruguay or LFC. He was just not happy with the quality of his team & frustrated to come out second class again. Come August '13, scenario has changed. Now Luis knows, he has a team, has colleagues, whom he can lead, inspire to raise hell, to fight it out for the last point.



    Luis didn't ask for purchasing trophies, he just wanted a team with whom he can have a fair fight. Anyone, bet me, come Jan '14, if we bring just 2 players in the ranks of Mata, Munian, Matuidi, De Maria, Martinez or Vidal, Luis Suraez 'll stay with us till 2020.

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  147. Ultimately, Suarez will (and probably should) leave; he has brought too much ignominy to the club despite his talents. However, if Liverpool finish 4th or better, the prospect of getting a very high fee for Suarez AND being able to secure suitable replacements using that cash seems much higher, no?


    Embracing Suarez this season greatly helps our chances of a top 4 (or at worst top 5) finish, which means everything in BR's transfer hopes (read: rebuilding process), as evidenced by the big misses this summer. It really doesn't matter what Suarez feels, so long as he plays as he should. Letting Suarez go next summer from a position of strength gives us much more power, and I think that is what BR and FSG are ultimately looking for.

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  148. I have to agree with you on this one Jamie!

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  149. I agree. It's funny how quickly some fans turn against some of our Clubs most legendary players just coz they don't like what they say! Very shallow.

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  150. No matter wat he does people like jamie will always give him a hard time if he really wanted to go he would handed in a tranfer requet i . Jamies has been saying for the last 2 years suarez would leave i thinks it time give up cos wen we make champions league this year hes staying for a very long time leave the man alone .

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  151. Suarez should just keep quiet. Whatever he says will be scrutinized and criticized.

    It's a matter of time before he leaves, whether its Jan or summer. In the meanwhile, Brendan just have to use him to get points on the board. But it's odd that that Real or Barcelona were not overwhelmingly interested to sign him. And Arsenal was only willing to bid max 40 + 1 pounds but they spent more than this amount on Ozil. They must be cautious of his on field behavior and his penchant for lengthy bans.

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  152. I agree 100%. I would just like to see his performances from here on though!

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  153. I think everyone should just BITE the bullet and move on

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  154. So Jaimie....what Nichol understood in the 80's doesn't mean that, he knows or understand how the club functions, in 2013 does he?. He can have an opinion, of course , but he does not know more than anyone else, how LFC are managed in 2013.

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  155. Good post! He was a really good player for us , but I don't think he's ever going to be accused of being the sharpest tool in the box and he's just plain wrong again.

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  156. Watching the team without him i get the feeling if the club can get 50 million pounds for him it could be better spent on other players than keeping him.

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  157. Does any of that need to be said? Is any LFC that naive to believe everything is perfect with Suarez and he is going to be at LFC long term. The fact is he is at the club this season and will help us achieve our goals, so lets just put the negativity to one side and support the team including Suarez.

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  158. I thought this as well. I guess it was an attempt to cover up the fact that JK thought he was going to leave but he didn't. By using ambiguous language it seems like a get out clause, much like the Suarez release clause saga, where the wording was LFC's get out clause.

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  159. what a terrible article, badly written and defending your previous article(s) like a child! Everything you write is twisted so that it flatters your "journalism" skills.Top tip, nobody cares! Don't quit your day job son

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  160. I think Liverpool was the most entertaining team to watch last
    season, which is great for a fan. This and a lot of this squad's self
    belief, also the increasing ambition to improve, had a lot of to do with
    this guy's super human effect. He has so much going on in him it's incredible.

    I think it's amazing that we managed to keep him and that our state
    looks so good right now. The suspension might actually be a blessing
    imo. If we manage to develop constantly more now with him coming back it
    would be just a cracking two years to witness as football fan. At least
    something is happening with this guy on our team. Remember how we
    looked before he signed? it all looked bland and semi hope less.

    He has a lot to put on table is my point, just by his presence.

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  161. How will all these biased opinions help LFC, Jamie?
    Will 100% loyalty to the Club, mean buying players from the neighbourhood only?

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  162. i don't know how you got to your conclusion from the comments above. I'm not anti-Nicol. i don't agree with a lot of what he says as a pundit, nor do i subscribe to the view in a debate between a player and a fan the player will almost always know best. Sure they deserve respect, but that should also be applied to current players and Suarez committed to LFC 3 weeks ago not when he landed in montevideo on Monday. Lazy punditry at best. i don't think there is any need for "very shallow" either?

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  163. I think the train of thought could well be will the club get 100 percent from him or will he drop his head and sook.

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  164. What are you talking about? All opinions are 'biased'. Should I only have opinions that conform to the fan majority now?!

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  165. i agree and great point about the ban being good for us - it's allowed us to be seen as a team again rather than a one man show. I think he's been mostly brilliant for us, but his bad moments have been pretty bad and that's why we supporters clash a bit when we speak about him.

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  166. Sorry to bring this up again, but Gerrard's punch up in that bar wasn't his proudest moment, he's also been accused of diving on the pitch etc and he was very close to leaving us for Chelsea. I don't mean this to put the great man down - just to offer some perspective

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  167. Ruddock did plenty if you ask around -- could start by asking Peter Beardsley what he thinks of him...

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  168. The question was not whether the opinions were biased or not, but in what way they would be helpful to the Club, which I belive You support! All of us supporters around the world, would have done a lot of things differently, if we was chairman, manager or indeed owner of LFC. Would it, however, be of much interest? Maybe?

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  169. True but I also agree that Suarez isn't that high up the list of top players. He has had only one full season of good form in one of the top 4 leagues. Got to take more than that to be considered so highly up that list.

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  170. 'but this man Luis is only behind the 2 boys playing in Spain'


    He has had only one full season of good form in one of the top 4 leagues. Got to take more than that to be considered so highly up that list of the best players around.

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  171. That is not an answer. If you're going to call a player an 'embarrassment' (as a means of comparing him to Suarez) then provide examples. Otherwise, it's meaningless, as in this case.

    Ruddock did absolutely nothing to 'embarrass' LFC. If he did, again, provide examples.

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  172. IF SUAREZ LEAVES LIVERPOOL FOR REAL MADRID I HOPE LIVERPOOL CASH IN MORE MONEY THAN SUPRS DID FOR BALE AS SUAREZ IS A BETTER PLAYER THAN BALE! SO 45 MILLION FOR SUAREZ AFTER THE BALE SALE WOULD BE AN INSULT TO LIVERPOOL FOOTBALL CLUB! AFTER HIS STATEMENTS THIS SUMMER HE SHOULD RECIVE NO HELP WHAT SO EVER TO HAVE A CHEAP QUICK EXIT! EVEN IF IT MEANS HAVING HIM IN THE STANDS OR IN THE RESERVES FOR THE REMAINDER OF HIS CONTRACT!

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  173. I agree, with one caveat. If you want to go, then GO, but you must either find a club willing to pay the appropriate fee or come to an agreement with a buying club that you personally will meet/forgo some of the costs of the transfer. Players these days want it all their own way, signing on fee, loyalty bonus (because I did not request a transfer) etc etc. He wants to go, put your money up!

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  174. I don't want to get into an argument with you over moral judgements. Only for it to be recognised that while Suarez has been a pain, there have been plenty of other players whose behavior has not come up to the standards we are entitled to expect of our players in the past. In my opinion, Suarez is far from the worst of them. Because of that, I don't think it's necessary to get too exercised over him.



    Neither was Neil Ruddock the worst -- and for the record I was fond of him as a player, as I'm fond of Suarez, feeling a sort of loyalty with all the scum of this world! -- but he's a good and recent (more recent than Saint, anyway) example of what has been regarded as tolerable indiscipline in the past.



    I don't want to get hung up on this word "embarrassment", but since you've pressed me: in the words of his own statement, as reported in this item from the Times in September 1996, he caused Liverpool Football Club "embarrassment".

    http://www.lfchistory.net/Articles/Article/208

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  175. Agreed, Arsenal was trying to take us for a piss

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  176. Actually Jamie, you don't know the reason.
    Rodgers knows. Suarez knows. The rest of us are just guessing. No amount of anti Suarez revisionism will change that.

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  177. The difference in Saurez' true worth, and the £40m + offers we received is LESS than the player's wages if we decide to keep him, even on the bench or sidelines.
    He does not have a way out through his contract. FSG will sell him for £55m next year and would at the very least cover this year's wages with the increased fee AND the use of the player, at least some of the time, with the world cup coming.
    Keeping him was a no brainer

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  178. He'll be perfectly happy to stay if we're topping the league. It's nothing to do with other clubs being better or more attractive. He just wants to play at the top level...anywhere.

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  179. Fair enough. Wasn't aiming that comment at just you personally. I do agree however Suarez is taking the mickey. 3 or so weeks ago would of been better. He must think we're all mugs!

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  180. just another article of what some one has said in a negative way about the club , love to see an article on where we are know , the fact we have kept suarez and the fact we are progressing , who gives a shit what nicol says , whether he is an ex player or what ,

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  181. AndWithSuchSimplicity11:28 am, September 07, 2013

    I remember Souness and Kenny telling stories concerning Nicol's "mental prowess". On a par with Jason '3 slices or 6' McAteer, by all accounts...... :)

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  182. AndWithSuchSimplicity11:31 am, September 07, 2013

    And the bar brawl derailed our season a damned sight more than "Rafa's Rant" ever did.
    Top of the League, just battered Newcastle away, then our Captain might get sent down. Clever boy.

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  183. AndWithSuchSimplicity11:32 am, September 07, 2013

    Apart from lying down like a dead man to celebrate a goal, obviously.
    What a comic genius.

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  184. AndWithSuchSimplicity12:05 pm, September 07, 2013

    He was trying to get him sent off.


    Pity it didn't work ;)

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  185. AndWithSuchSimplicity12:08 pm, September 07, 2013

    No.
    They were for succeeding in or attempting to cause physical injury.

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  186. I remember watching that :-)

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