Liverpool have reportedly finalised a deal to sign Valencia left-back Aly Cissokho.
Speaking to reporters last week, €8m-rated Cissokho told Le 10 Sport:
"Liverpool have made me an offer and I have reached an agreement with them.
"It is now up to the clubs to agree terms. I expect to know more later this week.
"If nothing happens this week, it probably means that I will not be going to Liverpool".
The conflict at the heart of the deal seemed to be the nature of the transfer. Cissokho explained:
"The conditions of the transfer are the problem. Liverpool prefer a loan deal with an option to buy, while Valencia want to sell straight away"
Well, according to an 11:06pm entry on Sky Sports' transfer clockwatch:
UPDATE 1: Friday 9am - Spanish newspaper Marca also confirms that the deal is on.
UPDATE 2: Friday 10:15am - Valencia-based newspaper SuperDeporte has also confirmed the deal. It reports that:
* LFC sealed the deal on Thursday night.
* The loan fee for the first year is €1m.
* After the loan year is up, LFC have an option to buy for €4m.
Cissokho first acknowledged Liverpool's interest in March, when he told French newspaper Le Parisien:
"I've never hidden the fact that the English league is the one that attracts me the most. It's pleasing to see my name linked to Liverpool. They're a great club, and not just anyone can wear that shirt"
There will probably be some kind of loan fee involved, but this seems to be quite a bargain overall. Jose Enrique needs competition, but if the deal goes pear-shaped, there's no real financial loss to the club.
Now, time to focus on signing Willian...
Jaimie Kanwar
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Speaking to reporters last week, €8m-rated Cissokho told Le 10 Sport:
"Liverpool have made me an offer and I have reached an agreement with them.
"It is now up to the clubs to agree terms. I expect to know more later this week.
"If nothing happens this week, it probably means that I will not be going to Liverpool".
The conflict at the heart of the deal seemed to be the nature of the transfer. Cissokho explained:
"The conditions of the transfer are the problem. Liverpool prefer a loan deal with an option to buy, while Valencia want to sell straight away"
Well, according to an 11:06pm entry on Sky Sports' transfer clockwatch:
UPDATE 1: Friday 9am - Spanish newspaper Marca also confirms that the deal is on.
UPDATE 2: Friday 10:15am - Valencia-based newspaper SuperDeporte has also confirmed the deal. It reports that:
* LFC sealed the deal on Thursday night.
* The loan fee for the first year is €1m.
* After the loan year is up, LFC have an option to buy for €4m.
Cissokho first acknowledged Liverpool's interest in March, when he told French newspaper Le Parisien:
"I've never hidden the fact that the English league is the one that attracts me the most. It's pleasing to see my name linked to Liverpool. They're a great club, and not just anyone can wear that shirt"
There will probably be some kind of loan fee involved, but this seems to be quite a bargain overall. Jose Enrique needs competition, but if the deal goes pear-shaped, there's no real financial loss to the club.
Now, time to focus on signing Willian...
Jaimie Kanwar
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Liverpool have now bought 2 left backs and we think we are in the champions league?
ReplyDeletegood deal, no risk, and a good player overall - exactly the sort of competition for enrique many of us have been waiting for so long! lets get another winger and probably a new CB and were definitely fit for the season :)
ReplyDeleteJamie mate are you still Up ? That is great news ! strengthens the squad and i have woken up ( i live in Taipei ) to read Willian wants to move to us !!! This could be a great end to a torturous summer. Keep up the good work mate it is appreciated
ReplyDeleteAlso as a side point how nice is it to see players talking up the club ! both cissokho and Willian talking about what a big club we are and that not just any player can play for Liverpool those are the players we want !
ReplyDeleteWe should throw Skrtel in as a sweetner for the Willian deal... that way we still have more funds for transfers. Anyone know whats happening with Coates??
ReplyDeleteWhat a good idea . We now have more cover if Skrtyl goes, but I still want Papa to be signed, Coates can go.
ReplyDeleteWillian will make the difference, seen a bit more of him and he should do very well.
Mignolet
ReplyDeleteJohnson Toure Agger Enrique
Willian Gerrard Lucas Coutinho
Sturridge Suarez
Subs: Jones Skrtel Coates Cissokho Kelly Allen Henderson Alberto Sterling Aspas Borini
This squad coud easily challenge for top four
YNWA
Cissokho for Enrique definitely.
ReplyDeletePlus Ibe ! that lad is the next John Barnes (fingers crossed)
ReplyDeleteWe'll be lucky.
ReplyDeleteNOBODY had a better final ball than Barnesy
Arh I don't mind they (Granada) move the post for siqueira from 5.5 to 12 million. If willian signs then il be one happy guy!!!:)
ReplyDeleteA proper Legend ! and the best Rapper ! although ... looks like rush has left it late but could be challenging Barnes after joining the Wu-Tang Clan
ReplyDeleteVALENCIA are letting him go on loan for a reason.He's not the player that at PORTO showed signs of being one of the best in the world.Is he better than ENRIQUE? I would say no, this is a low risk cover signing not competition.
ReplyDeleteLiverpool's history is no doubt a powerhouse. It's good to hear players showing us the respect and as fans we are happy they say these things. However, I have become skeptical after players like Torres and Suarez take a u-turn from their attitudes. Besides talk, they need to walk the walk and show loyalty if they really mean it! Actually the truth is we will never know what they truly feel until they suddenly decide one day to leave the club and will have a million reasons to go...
ReplyDeleteI would have preferred siqueira..
ReplyDeleteyh same reason why they sold soldado they have no money
ReplyDeletewe haven't signed him so how is it great news ,i am sure i read last week rogers come out and say , there is no truth in it , i read yesterday ian ayre had flown out to spain to sign another left back , i seem to read alot of reports that players are on their way to us , but it never comes to fruition , i thought the purpose of this window was to add depth to the squad , we have released more players than have come in lol , ian ayre needs to get on his bike and stop dilly daddling and get the players in we need
ReplyDeletePotential is the word that comes to mind when i think of cissokho.
ReplyDeletea few years ago alot of people (myself included) thought we missed a trick not signing him but he hasnt lit the world on fire in that time so hopefully he is more suited to the english game and we can get the best out of him.
Lol. How can you write shit over and over again man. I read your articles a few times. Am sure you are just a lost and miserable soul who just write shit. Seriously. How did you get such an info!! You should better stick to reading
ReplyDeleteSo now we're NOT signing the Brazilian guy? Even though two days ago that was as certain as this? It takes them a month to finalise this transfer and you guys think we're going to snap up Willian? It must be great living in your world...
ReplyDeleteI don't understand the point of this story as it tells us NOWT -and as for William - NO CHANCE WHATSOEVER unless YOU KNOW WHO IS FINALLY OFF
ReplyDeleteGood point VALENCIA like most clubs in Spain are struggling financially.In this transfer window SEVILLA's squad has been decimated.The country is in bad shape and football is suffering.
ReplyDeleteHowever selling your best player SOLDADO for 26m and letting a left back go out on loan is completely different.Getting CISSOKHO off the wage bill for a year?
It would make sense if he was a top earner on big money and you felt you had better footballing options.But he's wages are not even in the top 10 earners at VALENCIA.
Anyway moving away from left backs.I want to see a quality player arrive.Not a loan deal or a unknown or a free transfer.
Absolutely. He looks the real deal to me. Hope he gets sufficient playing time
ReplyDeleteI thought this deal was off
ReplyDeleteCissokho, Willian, Shaquiri, Papadopoulos and Diame is what we need to buy!
ReplyDeleteSell: Coates, Skrtel, Robinson, Borini
SSN reporting Manu gonna bid for Willian,
ReplyDeleteCissoko is not an upgrade on Enrique, back up/squad player.
ReplyDeleteAnzhi needs cash not a swap deal, am sure about it. The owner has lost lot of money in stocks.
ReplyDeletePretty sure that the story was that they want to get rid of the foreigners, more than anything else...
ReplyDeleteIt's nice to see Liverpool taking advantage of one of these no risk transfers that we keep offering to other clubs :)
ReplyDeleteJamie, according to your theory on transfers, Arsenal have signed Suarez. ??
ReplyDeleteJust because a player has reached an agreement with a club it is does not mean he has been signed. Your headline clearly says LFC "SIGN" La Liga star. It should read "LFC reach agreement with La Liga star".
I have always thought you are at the forefront of giving us breaking news but his interview is over a week old.
I am tired of people putting up misleading headlines just to get hits on their websites. Very disappointed Jamie.
YOU HAVE PERMANENTLY LOST AN AVID FOLLOWER ON YOUR SITE as I feel this kind of reporting shows a lack of respect to us supporters .
I truly hope there are others like me who feel the same and are tired of misleading headlines.
Would've preferred the Granada LB over Cissokho, #notexcited :(
ReplyDeleteGreat news??. More like NO news. Where does it say the player has signed? Quoting an old interview and putting a misleading headline is a cheap way of getting more hits on your website. Us fans deserve more respect Jamie.
ReplyDeleteNo, They sold 4 Russian players already, including Zhirkov.
ReplyDeletegreat to see you have a dont really care option on your votes ,i thought we were done with squad players ,if this is a marquee signing fsg can keep them
ReplyDeletecoates was bought for no other reason than to keep suarez happy - we could have got cahill for the same amount. so we should add that if we sell suarez.
ReplyDeletecool, guess I read that one wrong then.
ReplyDeleteMaybeWillian will be available for less than he signed for then!
by all reports they knocked back the fee we offered ...so we have gone for this guy......so in effect its rogers second choice
ReplyDeletethe problem with that m8 is the two best players in it more than likely wont be there
ReplyDeleteits the only way jamie can link a '' marquee signing '' in the headline from a realistic standpoint it should have said sinclair next
ReplyDeleteit is off it stinks
ReplyDeleteyou can only offer a player if that club wants them
ReplyDeleteI am a bit confused now. 10 hours back, I read somewhere from a "reliable source" Sequiera deal is 80% done, now it looks Cissokho deal done. Are we really signing anyone or just beating about the bush?
ReplyDeleteHowever, if both comes & Enrique leaves, I 'll be more happy (Off-loading of another unworthy KK signing)
swapping cissokho for jose thats gonna really turn the club around....dont be surprised if this '' unworthy kk signing '' doesn't give this guy a game
ReplyDeleteWill only believe the signing when LFC confirms it. There have been too many false starts this transfer period. Everyone who reports a signing seems to a reliable source but it always turn out to be false. We read that the Sequiera transfer will be completed within the next 48hours and it has now passed 48hrs and apparently the deal went cold with a huge gap in transfer price of 5m vs 12m. Same with the Willian deal. Will only believe when he actually signs.
ReplyDeleteIn the meanwhile, lets not get overly excited over all these reports.
fsg must be panicking as by all accounts willian wants to join liverpool ...if he wants to come to us and we '' have the money '' and rogers wants him whats the problem
ReplyDeleteWell you can't expect to get the best performer for their position from a league for a price of anything near 5m IMO. Wish they make a lot more effort to get the first choice players signed for club rather 4th or 5th choices.
ReplyDeleteI'd be very disappointed in LFC if we don't sign Willian after he has clearly made a come and get me plea for LFC specifically. He himself knows that the chances at LFC are better to make a comeback in the national squad. Don't take a pinch of salt though, go with bucket load of salt.
ReplyDeletewe have wasted money this summer ,if we had kept pepe ,got toure for free,and not bothered with the other signings,for a few million more we could have had eriksen and alderweireld,amd our net spend would still be practically zero,i know which players i would rather have signed ,and who would,have given us a better chance of moving forward ,and before fans say we have coutinho,surely eriksen could have done the allen role of keeping possesion ,and would have chipped in with way more goals and assists
ReplyDeleteWillian will talk up our club until we stall on a deal and a Champions League club comes in for him. I am sure Willian will not happen, please prove me wrong though
ReplyDeleteThe season hasn't even started yet and you're saying the club has wasted money? Once again, negativity with no discernible point or credible reasoning. How can you say money is wasted when the season hasn't started? How can money be wasted when:
ReplyDelete* Aspas scored/created 7 goals in pre-season
* Mignolet kept 6 clean sheets out of 7
* Toure helped the defence keep clean sheets.
* Alberto scored during pre-season.
4-4-2 won't happen
ReplyDeleteI wouldn't say we have wasted money, we have strengthened the squad, but we need to strengthen the team. If this is our final squad I will well and truly disappointed! I would also be very sceptical of 4th place, or even a top 6 finish
ReplyDeleteI get what your saying.This will imo, probably end up like the( what's his name?) transfer, earlier this window. not enough urgency to get the deal done. Hopefully willian signs and we can stop questioning the ambition being showed..
ReplyDeleteJojo - with respect, why don't you read the article properly because, clearly, you haven't.
ReplyDeleteYou seem to have completely missed the image which shows Sky Sports reporting that LFC have finalised a deal for Cissokho.
Sky Sports is a credible and often accurate source, and 'finalised a deal' means that the deal is done.
The article is not based on Cissokho's quote about 'reaching agreement' - that is there to provide *context* to the story, and to show the progression of the deal.
It really is amazing how people just don't seem to be able to read things properly these days.
By wasting money he means that we didn't sign many well established or first choice players that are supposed to give a little hope to the fans that LFC might make a challenge at the the top 4 because looking at the current squad I don't think there's much depth in it because the equal amount of players have been shipped out and also the quality hasn't drastically improved over this window.
ReplyDeleteThe fact that LFC have not signed 'well established' players does not mean money has been wasted. The transfer window still has two weeks to run.
ReplyDeleteBut there were better buys from the same price or if you see. Look at Bony for example, myself and many other fans think that he'd have been the guy to score goals for us when Suarez leaves or is suspended as usual. Then there was Wanyama who I think would've added depth as well as quality and there was also Lovren for the CB position at a knocked down rate, All those players have better stats than the players that LFC have signed this summer barring Mignolet because I think he's an upgrade over Reina with a lot more potential.
ReplyDeleteI agree with you - Bony and Wanyama would've been great buys, but just because LFC didn't get them doesn't mean the signings brought in are a waste of money.
ReplyDeleteAlso, how can Wanyama/Lovren - defenders - have better stats than Aspas and Alberto?
As for Bony - he scored a lot of goals last season, but the Eredivisie is a comparatively poor league. Aspas got lots of goals/assists in La Liga, which is superior in quality.
Additionally, Bony great season is the exception, not the rule. Every other year of his career he's struggled to get over 15 goals. In fact, only twice in 8 years did he score more than 15 goals in one season.
there is a point the two players i mentioned would have been better ,signings imo ,we need a centerback and eriksen is better than we have bought ,mignolet was not needed urgently who to say pepe would not have 7 clean sheets ,if he had,alderweireld playing infront of him ,and please come on,how many fans would have rather have had aspas over eriksen given the choice ,i said the other week he will struggle in the prem ,and lawro said it yesterday,and who is to say aspas is not borinins replacement ,he cannot even get a game in the last few friendlys ,slipping even further down the pecking order,come to tommow i know which players i would rather have starting ,and its the two lads from ajax
ReplyDeleterodgers dose not do established players ,he will keep trying to uneart a gem who we have hardly heard of ,and that will prove is downfall yes he will have success eg coutinho ,but the majority will turn out to be duds ,
ReplyDeleteI think defensively, this guy and Enrique are pretty much of a similar standard, where Cissokho is a definite upgrade IMO is in his passing and crossing and overall decision making in the final third. If we do sign him and it is a big if, I think he'll surprise a few.
ReplyDeleteyou are right rodgers has never had time for kennys signings ,hes tried to get rid of everyone of them even the ones who have out performed his own signings ,lets have a look at borini he cannot even get a game preseason now ,i do not see rodgers trying to get rid of him ,
ReplyDeletei would not have him for 30 million ,complete panic buy
ReplyDeleteHow do you know they be duds? The signings he has done have made a impact already. Proving we should trust him. Also he targeted established players this window. So your theory is false.
ReplyDeletefacts m8 facts we are supposed to have targeted the two lads at ajax at one stage (just as much as hk and the rest)they are still there ,it is all hear say,for all you know rodgers may have signed every player he wanted or was allowed to get upto now
ReplyDeleteAnother post making digs at FSG which are unfounded. Have you seen their track record in America? And England? For buying players. Think you should.
ReplyDeletedo they have a football team in the usa ,i thought not they may no something about baseball you could write on the back of a stamp what they know about socccccer
ReplyDeleteWe already have 4 CBs If one leaves then we can sign another, also Ericsson isn't LW player Rodgers is looking for he a CAM which we all ready have in coutinho.
ReplyDeletecoutinho plays out on the left when allen plays m8
ReplyDeleteWhat 'facts'? LFC being linked to Alderweireld and Eriksen is not a fact; like every transfer rumour, it's speculation.
ReplyDeleteIf LFC had signed the two Ajax players you'd almost certainly be moaning about them now too.
ReplyDeleteAllen won't play he be on the bench, what has BR said? I want to bring in a left sided attacker so I can bring young coutinho into the centre.
ReplyDeleteill still be supporting lfc m8 when fsg are a distant memory
ReplyDeletejaimie i said supposed to have (just as we are supposed to have been after hk and the others)i said its all hearsay,so what is your point
ReplyDeleteBaseball you still buy players, which are more expensive wages are more expensive too. Also under FSG our we've broke our spending record twice. And it be broken again if willian signs.
ReplyDeleteallen and borini are damp squibs if we are talking duds
ReplyDeleteIam as pissed off with lfc,s fortunes as anybody but how about a bit of optimism before the big kick off, reading a lot of the posts on this site is like visiting a morgue! Will bet anyone that barring injury aspas will get into double figures for us this season. The crows are circling waiting for a bad result against Stoke.
ReplyDeleteAllen has proven to be back fitter and looks good again hardly a dud, borini has been unlucky. Also this was BEFORE the committee came into place :)
ReplyDeleteSo you say things which are unfounded and false to make your time more happier? I don't get that preset strange,
ReplyDeletecorrectamonday if you say so ,we all know you cannot be wrong ,so to save argument yes i would just like i have moaned about suarez and hendo and gerrard and lucas and various other players all season ,i moan about fsg rodgers ,and the players who imo are not now and neverwill be worthy of the shirt,saying that the way the clubs going they may well be ,
ReplyDeletedont worry m8 its a non starter and if im being honest there are better players out there to spend money on who we need..the only plus point of the willian deal is he seems to be a player who wants to sign for liverpool ...well thats until he meets ayre and rogers then it will all go pear shaped
ReplyDeletethe comitte which signed these must have been the wheel tappers and shunters club
ReplyDeleteIn your post, you quite clearly state 'facts'. I asked you 'what facts'. Your interminable, pointless negativity is really wearing thin. All views are welcome here, but as the site update above states, 99% of the time, you just engage in ceaseless negativity with no point or reasoning. Every article posted you interject with negative, sarcastic, dismissive, non-constructive comments, usually dissing Rodgers in some way. As I said, it's wearing thin.
ReplyDeleteIf we don't sign a marquee signing Jason's Moans, if we do try Jason's moans. When are you happy? Never?, willian will be great buy if it happens, we want him, he wants us, we are currently in talks, FSG are on bored and willing to pay the price for him
ReplyDeleteso what 5 of our top seven dearest players were bought under hicks and gillet
ReplyDeleteBetter players like who?
ReplyDeleteCompetition is imperative to push the player to new heights. Enrique needs that. However Cissokho is not the wonderful talent he used to be. He never fulfilled his potential.
ReplyDeleteWell he is still only 25 so he has time. Hopefully he comes to us and blows us away. So does that mean Siqueira is off the radar?
As for Willian...reports are saying United made a last min enquiry so if that's true and they are willing to pay for him then we have no chance.
It's nice he mentioned us as a club he would like to go but I am sure he is keeping his options open.
Let us not hold our breath.
They brought us with a loan. No one cares what they did. Also FSG are better owners running us properly, not screwing us over.
ReplyDeleteIf we signed Messi and Ronaldo, went on to win the domestic treble breaking every reconrd there is Carr71 would still complain lol
ReplyDeleteThat's how I feel. He would only come to us if there are no other clubs in the running. Let's hope not.
ReplyDeleteHim on the left wing, Coutinho would be dangerous.
come on jamie there are very few true facts in football...a fact in footballing terms is usually about 50 per cent of the truth....you can more or less less state as fact that liverpool are interested in all players ....its just to what extent your judging the interest....its a question of semantics and intent........from a neutral perspective its safe to say all clubs are interested in all players available thats a pretty believable fact...the fact becomes diluted if you like when trasfer fees,wages.tec come into play
ReplyDeleteYes, I agree with that, but when someone cites 'facts' in their comment, then they should be prepared to be challenged on it. The same applies to me: if I state 'this is a fact' in an article/comment, then if I don't provide evidence for that fact, then people have every right to challenge me.
ReplyDeletenot so much better players but positions i think we need to cover...if we are to play tino in midfield which rogers alludes to IMO we need a bona fida defensive midfielder of the highest quality
ReplyDeleteWe're not going to buy a defensive midfielder, regardless of what else happens. I've long since given up on that dream - we just have to keep our fingers crossed that Lucas stays fit and hits top form throughout the entire season.
ReplyDeleteif we get linked to a marquee signing you say hes signing ,and jump all over it like a granny on acid ,and then when he dose not sign you back track and disappear for a day or two ,just like after every bad result last season ,
ReplyDeleteAt the moment I wouldn't take too much stock in anything the British press report at the moment.
ReplyDeleteAs we approach the end of the transfer market they seem to report more and more crap.
I mean at this point Bale should of sign for Real, Rooney for Chelsea, Suarez for Arsenal, Fabregas for Utd and we should of signed about 30 players by now !!!
I mean just look at the whole Suarez rumor a few days ago.
Some papers were at the same time that he was staying and that he denied he was staying.
Talk about contradicting yourself.
well we are not going to sign a CDM. Unless Allen or Lucas leaves. Willian deals suits us, attacking threat on the Left, enables us to bring coutinho into the middle.
ReplyDeletetbf Dalglish's signings were pretty poor.
ReplyDeleteSuarez (not really a Dalglish signing, but still...) and Henderson are still going strong though, and Downing and Enrique were given plenty of starts last year also...
i can safely state as fact that rogers has looked at the two ajax players with a view to buy...that fact loses its validity once wages,fees suitability to system come into play.....
ReplyDeleteWhen did I say anyone was going to sign?:) I always put IF. And when have I disappeared? Jason if you have to make things up to make your points then you might aswell just don't bother writing a reply. :-)
ReplyDeleteHow do you know we even made a offer? To buy them, we MIGHT have scouted them but that's it, nothing more In it.
ReplyDeleteThat's not a fact.
ReplyDeletebut the point is they out performed rodgers summer signings
ReplyDeletebut coutiho only plays in the middle if allen is not on the pitch,and we all know allen will start tomorrow ,
ReplyDeleteThey had a YEAR to settle in what do you expect?
ReplyDeleteme to m8 and when they go i hope they take a few fans with them
ReplyDeleteUntil we sign a LW then yes that will happen but when the LW comes in, Allen dropped to the bench coutinho in middle.
ReplyDeleteallen was bought from a club down the road ,he had supposed prem experience they are no excuses ,if every player needs a year to settle in we can forget this season as well ,maybe thats why we have only signed squad players so they are no excuses
ReplyDeleteallen dropped to the bench you been smoking the same stuff as arsenal
ReplyDeleteAgain you make things up to suit your argument, Allen has been on the bench before, even in pre season, we will have options to change the team around next season. Allen won't play that much maybe in the cups, but if he does well then he deserves his chance.
ReplyDeleteand you would still snipe and post drivel
ReplyDeleteallen will start every game m8 unless his form resembles the absolute shambols of a player he looked like towards the end of his season last year he will start ,
ReplyDeleteSturridge and Coutinho MASSIVELY outperformed all of Dalglish's signings, and they were only signed in January.
ReplyDeleteafter fsg what other players/manager have made the greatest impact on lfc in your opinion
ReplyDeletejaimie i did say summer signings
ReplyDeleteRodgers and coutinho:) Rodgers for getting rid of the rubbish from KK era. And coutinho for his sublime skill:)
ReplyDeleteit is jamie its just a question of semantics....there is IMO a good mathematical probability that BR or whoever oversees the transfer dealings at Liverpool will have looked at these two players with a view to buy if they haven't then you would have to say what are they doing because as a norm i would expect them to be looking at all quality players who become available
ReplyDeleteYou said KK signings done better but when they first came they struggled. That's why I said they had a year to settle.
ReplyDeleteYes, I agree the probability is high, but it's not a fact.
ReplyDeletesucks doesn't it ;)
ReplyDeleteI wonder how much Granada wanted for Siqueira
ReplyDelete12 million :)
ReplyDeletetbf, Rodgers shipped Sahin straight back out and Borini & Assaidi looks like they'll struggle to make it much further at LFC.
ReplyDeleteSturridge and Coutinho are both comfortably better than anything that Dalglish brought in, and so it's only Allen really, who remains in direct competition with Henderson for the central midfield berth.
So it looks like Rodgers doesn't have too much favouritism in regards to choosing his own signings over anybody else from what I can see.
He lost half a billion in a company which helped him run his club he needs to get rid of players
ReplyDeleteAh ok, if so, that is a bit much then for him and I can put away my FSG-is-being-too-hardball-again gun :)
ReplyDeleteAgreed, they were supposed to be happy with 5.5 million then Real Madrid then got involved that's why they increased the value, but I'm happy with cissohko, would be decent competition for erinque, next signing Willian then il be happy!:)
ReplyDeleteSuch a pathetic comment. You've been complaining we haven't tried for big signings, then you said we didn't even try for Mhkitaryan now you're saying FSG are panicking over Willian. If they didn't want to get him, why enter into negotiation?
ReplyDeleteNot really - Sturridge and Coutinho have clearly outperformed any of Dalglish's signings (even with the over the top fawning at Henderson's end of season form).
ReplyDeleteIt's only Allen that remains up for debate, with Henderson fighting him for that central midfield birth. Rodgers recognised his own mistakes from his first window and shipped Sahin back out at the first opportunity, barely gave Assaidi a look in and looks to have relegated Borini to bench duty, so it doesn't really look like favouritism to me. Dalglish just made some very poor signings, for very big money, so his players had to move on in order for the club to move forwards
Please, BR did not get all the players on free transfer. He did spend reasonable amount of money on them. As a fan, of course I hope to see established players signing for us but I don't not know the actual ground situation. So I cannot specifically point out why we missed many supposedly established players.
ReplyDeleteAnyway, the definition of 'established players' is vague. Are Wilfried Bony and Victor Wanyama established players in your opinion? Also not forgetting we don't offer Champions League to those established players. Henrikh Mkhitaryan is a good example. If we are in the Champions League, I don't think he will choose Dortmund over us. Be honest, how many of us fans really rate him before his name was link to LFC.
Your constant pessimism, slating of FSG & BR and idolizing of KD is out of the world. I have nothing more to add.
How is he a panic buy?
ReplyDeleteHe only became available after the Anzi chairman lost all that money, they TURNED DOWN £34m from Man City only months ago. He was bought for £30m less than a year ago and put Chelsea out of the CL
Andy Carroll. That's what you call a panic buy. Only KD/DC thought he was worth £35m NOBODY else did, or bid anything like it.
i never said we made an offer ..i said there was a mathematical probability we where interested in them
ReplyDeleteIt's a real joke. These guys ( gilstrap and JC) have been forever saying why didn't we get a player eg Martinez when he was cheap? That's with hindsight after they become £20m+ players a season or so later.
ReplyDeleteNow, when we try, see Coutinho/Aspas/Alberto etc
they complain that they're squad/ low cost signings, where's the marquee signing, FSG won't buy a top player.
THEN, when we do go after one, they STILL complain. JC even said it was a panic buy, and Gilstrap says no way will we really try.
Moan moan moan....
The risk with well established is considered to be less than then unknowns. Don't you think that?
ReplyDeleteSo? We are interested in alot of players doesn't mean we will sign them.
ReplyDeleteyou have to aim high or complacency sets in...we have gone from champions to challengers to be ecstatic for top 4 ...the next step in trying to break into the top 6 to mid table to relegated
ReplyDeleteEriksen was spouted at £18-20m and Alderweireld at £12-15m at the beginning of the summer.
ReplyDeleteNO top sides have bought them. prices for both have dropped, halved in one case. Still no top sides.
Eriksen NOW says he will ONLY go to a CL side, contradicting what he said several times earlier.
Why no top side bids?
hoW do you define entering negotiations...is it sounding out his agent Or going to Russia with a suitcase full of rubles with an intent to buy '' IM SPEAKING FIGURATIVELY ''
ReplyDeletewell you know what they say ....the moan the merrier
ReplyDeleteYou never moaned about Kenny
ReplyDeleteWe need a DM to challenge as well as cover and I think Wanyama would've been better than Alberto who is another AM who I don't think the team currently needs. Bony is better than Aspas in terms of goals even if its in a lower league you can't score them like Bony did so there must be something to it. Lovren is a defender with a lot of potential and at the price the Saints got him is nothing but a coup. All the players mentioned here would've easily chosen LFC over the clubs they've gone to now (IMO).
ReplyDeletethe point i was trying to make is that fact and football forums are not good bedfellows...football is fed off rumor and tittle tattle its what makes it so interesting
ReplyDeleteI have nothing against aiming high, but you have to take reality into consideration.
ReplyDeleteIt pains me to say this but the fact is we are not, and have not been a top 4 side for the last 4 years now.
With that in mind it becomes very difficult to get the players that many people to consider to be marquee players and also we have a big reduction with regards to incoming money with not being in the CL.
So with that in mind we have to find players who have the potential to good enough to get us back into the top 4, players like Coutinho, Sturridge, Allen, Henderson etc.
Will Aspas, Mignolet and Alberto be those players.. who knows, hopefully they will be. I refuse like some people to instantly right them off before they have played a competitive game.
i cant speak for jc but i have moaned about every manager ever at Liverpool in some degree or another...i have moaned about players signed by previous managers ...but the reality is rogers and fsg are now running the show so what is the point of bringing up hodgson signing poulsen........we are not one being ...we are a collective of individuals with our own perspective on life ...
ReplyDeletereality is what you make it....if you accept second best the likely hood is you will achieve second best....
ReplyDeleteno ones trying to say kk did not make some bad signings iam just pointing out so as rodgers
ReplyDeleteit certainly dose
ReplyDeletethats an assumption on your be half...3 years down the line your opinion may differ...for now you may think they are better but you cant predict the future
ReplyDeleteand i do not think hes worth 30million
ReplyDeleteso you started supporting them recently but know everything there is to no well done
ReplyDeleteWell in which case you keep to your fantasy that were a top 4 team and everything that goes with it, prestige, CL, Bags of Money etc and you will always be bitterly disappointing.
ReplyDeleteThis is one of the reason why I like FSG, they are now refusing to be taken for mugs which is something we have been doing for years now.
ReplyDeleteIf only they adopted this attitude when KD was in charge, but then again why wouldn't you trust KD.
if only life was as simple as you try to make it out mike
ReplyDeleteYou just don't get it, do you?
ReplyDeleteIn order to get the players we need to challenge for the title, we need to get into the top four.
that then becomes the short term goal, as part of the longer term goal to win the title. It's a necessary step.
Show me ONE quote where anyone from LFC says we will be happy with top 4 forever.
We're not accepting second best. Just blithely saying we're going to win the League this season is NOT showing any grasp of the reality.
And since you trotted out that cliché, here's an opposing one.
You have to learn to walk before you can run.
Top 4 first. THEN the League title
But the gap in fees paid when compared makes BR a saint.
ReplyDeleteNo, I'm on about FSG era, as owners, the best manager under them has been Rodgers. Best players has been coutinho followed up by suarez
ReplyDeleteno i gave him time as in my eyes he had earned it for what he has done for the club,one of the main reasons i bring rodgers short fallings up so much is because,the same people who wanted kenny out are the same people calling for rodgers to be given time hypocrits
ReplyDeleteits a lottery buying a player you never know...but there are certain variables which can stack his ability to succeed in you favour
ReplyDeleteI agreed it's good to have owners caring for us, not putting us Into the red, and so true what a waste under KD:/ could of brought decent players for how much he spent
ReplyDeleteSky are reporting we are indeed in talks with Willian...Sky don't you dare get mu hopes up again!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ReplyDeletesorry m8 i remember a few seasons back when we were saying gerrard deserves a title ,and now we are just hoping for champions league 1st is 1st and second is nowhere
ReplyDeleteIf we pull it off, our front three in Willian,Sturridge,Suarez, then coutinho behind amazing!:)
ReplyDeleteand then the men in the white coats knock on your door
ReplyDeleteWe are giving Rodgers time because he shown he good in the market,shown progress in the league and he adapted a nice playing style, which is good to watch and entertaining.
ReplyDeletein order to get the best players you have to show a real intent in buying from the off...not waiting around til you have sold someone ....not waiting about to see if other clubs come in....
ReplyDeleteOk so . New owners should come in, give us £100m to win the title and a top Manager instead of the one we had, and we'll win the title.
ReplyDeleteHang on.......
good do not bother in future
ReplyDeleteCissokho makes more sense at the alleged price we could get him for at the end of the loan deal
ReplyDeletei am going to put my head in the oven its got be better than listening to this
ReplyDeletesit back jc and relax...rogers has got rid of kennys deadwood and replaced them with his own so we should finish way higher than we ever did with kenny and get a couple of cup finals in for good measure
ReplyDeleteSuarez is training with the first team again? Positive? Didn't BR say he will come back into the fold when he more committed...
ReplyDeleteWhat dead wood has Rodgers got them?:-)
ReplyDeleteGo ahead :-) have fun.
ReplyDeletedid you really think we had a chance of the title ,kenny should have had more time end off ,and come the end of this season when we are no nearer european football they will still be calls for rodgers to be given more time
ReplyDeleteLike we did with Carroll, Downing and Henderson.
ReplyDeleteTOP players rarely go to non CL clubs unless you pay them ridiculous wages
More time? Your joking right? He might of spent 20 million on Titus bramble.
ReplyDeleteagree what is there to worry about:-)
ReplyDeleteI'll take your word for that.
ReplyDeleteDon't forget, your solution was Jordan Rhodes and Ryan Shawcross
it will be more fun than talking to you,infact in future i am not going to bother post away
ReplyDeleteUtter nonsense. The Dalglish situation is totally different to Rodgers. Kenny will always be a legend but his second spell in charge turned out to be a complete and utter disaster, which (arguably) set the club back 3-5 years:
ReplyDelete* Catastrophic waste of transfer funds on average players. £100m+ wasted on average British players that anyone with could see were not worth it.
* Presided over pigheaded stubborn LFC response to the Evra situation, which included antagonistic club statements on the issue; repeated arguments/clashes with journos in press conferences, and the embarrassing T-shirt incident.
* Forced to apologise for 'conduct unbecoming a Liverpool manager' after attacking a reporter live on air.
* Perpetuated the tedious LFC victim complex with his incessant 'everyone hates LFC' approach.
* Ill-advised (and ultimately damaging) blanket support for Luis Suarez.
* Horrible results on the field, and admitted prioritising cups over the league.
* No signs of progress on the field, or hopes for improvement in the future.
* Relegation form in the last few months in charge.
People wanted Dalglish out because he was clearly not the right man to take the club forward. He was out of touch, and leading the Reds in a damaging direction.
There is absolutely no comparison between Rodgers and Dalglish. The only similarity is that BR has also made a couple of duff signings, but he hasn't wasted ridiculous amounts of money in the process, or caused LFC to make tens of millions in transfer losses.
Ultimately, there is HOPE under Rodgers, and manifest progress on and off the pitch.
There's no hypocrisy at all. Rodgers deserves time. Dalglish didn't. End of story.
all rogers signings are top notch...so that coupled with us getting rid of all kennys rubbish should mean we will achieve far more than kenny did...well considering kenny got to two finals and won one that means this year rogers should improve on that by winning two finals and at the very minimum get us into the top 4
ReplyDeletehahahah
ReplyDeleteYeah, because you don't know how to have a discussion, you make things up to get your own way :) but good for you Jason :)
ReplyDeleteBR's signings overall are far more effective - and cost effective - than Dalglish's, and in time, Rodgers will achieve much more.
ReplyDeleteBR has only had one season in charge, and he had to clean up Dalglish's mess in that season. Dalglish had 18 months, and things just got worse and worse.
The fact that LFC got to two cup finals means nothing, and doesn't prove Dalglish is more effective than Rodgers. Case in point: LFC had to beat Championship opposition on PENALTIES to win the Carling Cup. Hardly an admirable achievement. In fact, it's pretty embarrassing.
The League cup is a meaningless distraction. Rodgers has already improved on Dalglish's tenure by beating his league position/points total in his first season.
Wow he won the capital one cup, no big deal, Rodgers after Janaury has shown he transfers to be good, coutinho,Sturridge and even the recent signings in aspas,Alberto,Toure,mignolet to make a impact. I rather have Top 4 than anything else.
ReplyDeleteand kenny took over from the roy h mess poulson joe cole ring any bells....id sooner get to the final and win on penalties than get knocked out by a team of milkmen on the way there....surely you jest jamie
ReplyDeleteYour Point?
ReplyDeleteDo you miss the point on purpose?
ReplyDeleteKenny had £100m to spend, and we ended up 17 points away from 4th and 37 points away from the title. we only scored 47 goals all season. You say that meant we should have given Kenny another season end of?
But Rodgers had us to within 12 points of top 4 and 28 from the title with £40m to spend, we score 71 goals and we should sack Rodgers?
no wonder you mention people in white coats.
I don't see this as a done deal at all. This is exactly the same position we were in a couple of weeks ago. Valencia want a sale and L'pool wants a loan with an option to buy. This is not news and it isn't a signing. Please curb your enthusiasm.
ReplyDeleteWhen it gets put on the BBC website that it's a done deal is when I believe that it's a done deal. It's on the BBC website.
ReplyDeletehoping more like dreaming
ReplyDeleteWhen he signs it will be a done deal...not until and I don't care who puts it in what paper.
ReplyDeleteIt means talking to his selling club to agree a fee
ReplyDeleteKD mess was bigger than Roy's. Rodgers had to clean up Benitez mess(aqua) Roy H mess(J cole) then KD mess, Carroll,downing,Adam etc. their still some to go aswell!
ReplyDeleteBBC is about as reputable as it gets and when they say it's done, it's done!
ReplyDeleteso we haven't entered negotiation then haha
ReplyDeletewell we should thrash stoke then on sat as adam is playing for them
ReplyDeletethats a btter solution than borini and allen hahaha
ReplyDeleteI can't be bothered to waste time on this pointless debate. Some things are self-evident. This is like arguing that Ryan Babel is a more effective player than John Barnes.
ReplyDeleteill believe this when i see him in a reds shirt .....we even agreed a mhiktaryan deal in principle and we know what happened ....... no point getting false hopes
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