22 Aug 2013

Confirmed: LFC star 'out for the season'. Plus, BR on Willian, Skrtel & transfers

Liverpool manager Brendan Rodgers has confirmed that he plans to bring in a new central defender before the end of the transfer window.

In his pre-Aston Villa press conference this afternoon, Rodgers provided an update on the club's transfer aims.

On Sebastian Coates' injury:

"He [Coates] suffered the same type of injury as Martin Kelly, and it’s probably going to rule him out for the rest of the season.

"He’s never given me a problem since I’ve been here, and this season was a chance for him to go out and play, but that's not going to happen now"


On bringing someone in to replace Coates:

"It’s something that we’re looking at, a player to come in to that position [central defence]"

When asked about Napoli's alleged offer for Martin Skrtel, Rodgers said:

"Not at all. It’s the first I’ve heard of it. Ian Ayre always informs me of what’s happening, and I haven’t heard anything [about a bid being rejected]"

On missing out on Brazilian star Willian:

"There's always that initial disappointment, but you can't dwell on it. We've been very ambitious in trying to get in players to improve the team; some would say perhaps too ambitious.

"We're trying to get the best players, and if we can't get them in we have to move on. If you're going to climb the league you need quality, and that's what we're trying to do"




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165 comments:

  1. If you wanted quality players you would have acted quicker, as far as i'm concerned our transfer is over no funds available

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  2. Off topic here but what is this if we say Suarez a cheat?

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  3. liverpool4life5652:51 pm, August 22, 2013

    No, if we had splashed 30+ million on one player then we wouldn't have funds left for a CB... It's about managing the money properly, spurs can do that because their getting 90+ million from bale then 20 million from the players they've sold.

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  4. BR on trying to sin Willian "some would say perhaps too ambitious" Not as ambitious at spurs it would seem. Very disappointing comment from rogers

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  5. Coates was largely ignored even when fit so the injury has little impact other than the fact that he can't bring in further transfer funds.


    Hopefully the news about a decision to reject a Skrtel bid (again) is actually false, and this time he is actually being used sold to fund the purchase of a first team replacement; rather than sitting in reserve again, as he did following the January transfer window after we rejected the approach for him from Zenith...

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  6. liverpool4life5652:56 pm, August 22, 2013

    They out bid us? how can we complete with a side who has over 120 million coming into their club? Please explain:)

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  7. Read an article that we could've got Damiao in place of Sahin but we didn't and now we're again on his trail after missing out on Willian. Hope we get Toby or Sakho or Papadopolous, anyone of them would do for me.

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  8. Can never be too ambitious - I'd rather we were actually rejected for quality players, than continue hearing that we never actually forced them into making a decision at all by making appropriate bids...

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  9. Suggesting that we may have been too ambitious in our transfer dealings says it all! It still is Willian after all. Would have loved to see him at Liverpool, but he barely makes the Brazil national team. How is that too ambitious. We're not talking about Cavani or Falcao here (purposely not mentioning Messi.


    Was Norwich being too ambitious when they chased Van Wolfswinkel. How about Swansea chasing Bony and Southampton with Wanyama, Osvaldo and Ramirez last year.


    It is important to be realistic, but it's obvious that we have set our sights very low.

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  10. I get the feeling it's not the transfer fee but trying to convince these so called marquee signings to sign a contract that is performance related rather than a guaranted 100k a week just a thought

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  11. i think the damiao-loan story is nonsense to be honest, why should they loan him and sell him for 13m one year later if they rejected a 20m bid from spurs last year?

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  12. Not the point I was trying to make. To me Roggers is saying going for good players is "too ambitious".

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  13. Bring in Sakho and Lamela, or players of that ilk, and I'm still delighted (even if we have still overlooked the need for another ballwinner in the centre of the park) - onwards and upwards

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  14. liverpool4life5653:00 pm, August 22, 2013

    Well it is? He gone for top quality players, we came 7th is ambitious for us to get CL players in...

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  15. Typical rubbish from Rodgers. We need a CB, make a shortlist and go top to bottom. But take your sweet time BR. It's not quite 2 September yet. And may I suggest Yaroslavl Rakitskiy. Too ambitious? I wonder who would say that. Sure as hell LFC fans wouldn't.

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  16. This season the club cannot compete with spurs but i will say there is a few lower sides that have bought very well.
    That is what bothers me but there is still time to make some nice signings.

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  17. Not the point I was trying to make. Seems to me that Rodgers was saying signing good players is "too ambitious" for him and Liverpool.

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  18. Can't really see a problem with what we're doing in the transfer market (Obviously others will disagree, this is MY opinion). Everyone getting sucked into the media frenzy of who we have from who we haven't signed. "Tottenham have signed Willian, oh no we suck again (After not signing HK) and Ayre is stupid blah blah blah" Personally, I can't see how Willian is worth £30m, before this window I had heard of him but not in a £30m brilliant player type way. Were Chelsea interested? Man U, City? Arsenal (Ok forget Arsenal) But seriously, I think the club is right not to offer astronomical wages an fees for these Youtube stars. There's absolutely no guarantee they'll deliver. Glad to see BR acknowledges we need appropriate cover in defense though..

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  19. Have we not got a transfer budget cause all the players bought was with money form the players sold ,the owners did not add a single penny for transfers and that's because they don't have, and please don't come up with the CL excuse because if Spurs can sign quality without CL so can we

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  20. Agree with you! We should definitely bring in Lamela as soon as possible. He's one helluva player who can make it to the top of world class footballers sooner or later. Sakho would be a good buy if you look for a mobile CB with good build and aerial presence (IMO).

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  21. liverpool4life5653:08 pm, August 22, 2013

    Course we have but we got to put abit for the LW and get in a good CB, we only got one fit CB, Toure, agger has a knock so. Does skrtel. Wisdom was supposed to go out on loan so a CB is propriety. Can you read? it's not about that. I'm on about 30 million was steep for us. If we spend 30 million on him then then our funds for a CB would be much less.

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  22. Sorry dont agree what so ever - Willian would have quite happily come to Liverpool. We bottled it and spurs showed more ambition didn't they. Tell me are Spurs in CL? Perhaps we should show less ambition and gog for players below 7th should we?:)

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  23. Sure we can, especially if we offer over the odds on salary and transfer fee. Thing is, this has been done by the club already, didn't work AT ALL. If you're not in the CL then the only other thing you have as a tool is MONEY if you're not gonna cough up then no deal. History confirms this, Look at City, Chelsea, no CL but bucket loadsa dosh! The ONLY way they were able to get the superstar players to get into the CL.

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  24. Too ambitious Brendan to go after certain players really! But spurs aren't to ambitious, can't believe to manager said that.

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  25. I don't give a toss about so called big name players, only the right player should matter. If that means a £5m player who cares???, Spurs want to pay 35m Euro's for Willian, surely he is not worth that fee???. Get Tiago llori and a left-winger and that will do us, what about giving Assaidi a fair chance, he has talent but isn't trusted by BR.
    Cissokho was a good deal with no risk at all, surely we can find a winger across Europe for a reasonable fee. Diego Capel is going for £6m apparently, he doesn't get too many goals but is very tricky but then so is Assaidi!!!!!!.............umm???

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  26. Well it could be that the player is unsettled there and wants to move to Europe. Even though the 13m tag itself wouldn't be true but something closer to 15m might be. Those 2m do make a lot of difference.

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  27. Agree re Capel: total waste of money if LFC sign him for £6m. His goals/assist rate is nowhere near good enough.

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  28. liverpool4life5653:12 pm, August 22, 2013

    We bottled it? No we just didn't wanna spend 30 million on him

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  29. Spurs got into the CL positions even before this recent splurge though...


    Everton overtook us also without a massive splurge, as did Newcastle a couple of years ago too...

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  30. If you were listening what he actually said was " Some would say...too ambitious" He wasn't giving his own view. He was giving a general view of what others would think of a team not in the CL spending big money on international stars.

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  31. Off Topic: I scored 92 points in my 1st Gameweek and it was after 2 of players not playing. Would improve on it in 2nd Gameweek.

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  32. Well, it was Rogers and Ayre that were saying just some months ago that we can compete with the best in the transfer market, even financially. A certain someone also said that the lack of European football would not hinder us from acquiring top players.


    Many people on this site and others begged to differ and have been proven right. Rodgers at the start of the window changed his tune, stating that the lack of European football is affecting our chances of bringing in players.


    There's an obvious lack of joined up thinking within our hierarchy and that may be part of the problem as opposed to simply financial woes. Someone stated a while back that a 'football person' should be brought in at a higher level. That might just make sense.


    We're still being told there's money to spend, so I guess we'll see how it goes.

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  33. It could have been his opinion....

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  34. liverpool4life5653:17 pm, August 22, 2013

    102 for me :):)

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  35. Spurs got there once? in how long? Fact is they've been there more recently than us, they've also been run as a more financially viable outfit, making minimum losses and maximum profit on players. We haven't been in the CL a lot longer than them and have an unproven manager, these are always important factors for players with greedy agents.

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  36. Would've passed more than 120 if I didn't take of Oscar and Shaw and put Luiz and Cabaye there. D:

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  37. The fact that we have no european football at all works against us in a pre-world cup year. However I disagree; there is no such thing as LFC being over ambitious, wrong mentality. Same goes for all this talk of only challenging for the top 4. We have got to take it a game at a time and the objective for this club should always be the title and if you push hard for that and fail, you are more likely to finish in the top 4, than if the top 4 is the hight of your ambition. Believe it and want it!
    Come on you Reds!!!

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  38. BR is saying they are ambitious but *SOME* would say they are being too ambitious. I don't see the problem with his statement.

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  39. Well Spurs did and it will prove a good investment when they make 4th and reap the rewards of CL football. While we make 6-7th as best and go backwards as worst. - Like Rodgers say's cant be "too ambitious"

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  40. 100% true!!!.................great post!!!!

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  41. Yes, absolutely. It's possible it could be his own personal opinion, but it's equally possible that he's merely echoing what he believes is the prevailing view of others.

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  42. liverpool4life5653:25 pm, August 22, 2013

    Their selling to make that investment.... If we got in 90 million for a player we would splash money on them players but we DON'T.

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  43. Are you talking about the Yahoo fantasy ? is there a Liverpool Kop League ?

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  44. Agreed. You need to counsel the LFC hierarchy!

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  45. Just to completely through something into the mix, personally I'd sidestep all these so Called 'Superstars' and trigger Christian Tello's release clause (£22m) Think he's a fantastic player, the right age, skill for days and can score (both feet). So good that Barca offered a new contract with the £22m clause in, just to keep him sweet.

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  46. No mate. I meant the one at http://fantasy.premierleague.com/ .
    Do we have a Liverpool Kop League?

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  47. You are right. Just my opinion.. Given how he views the status of the club and speaks highly of it I would say the latter ...at least I hope so.

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  48. I believe since January only the mancs have scored more goals, we are now stronger so why shouldn't we be confident going into the season?. I judge us on what I see and not what the press write, Liverpool look a fine side now. With a couple more players we can do as well as anybody, If you want to finish 4th you certainly won't finish top................4th is failure on every level.

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  49. IMO Lamela is better than him, might be just same though.

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  50. Why BR is not going after Jackson Martinez?

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  51. because hes probably at 35m. we could have got him last year for not even 10 we missed our chance, 30m is to much IMO

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  52. They're quite similar, although to me Tello looks like he has a little more fire in his bell plus Llamela is going for £30m.

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  53. I hope RM bid for Suarez after Benzema's sale and which will release the funds for him.

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  54. BR needs to put a skate on...the clock is ticking and as less players remain available their price will start to go up...meaning we'll end up getting less for more!!

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  55. Whatever happened to our interest in Boudebouz, Atsu, Ayew, Dzsudszak?

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  56. Spot on! My thinking exactly

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  57. I agree for the price tag they've obviously Tello is the preferred choice but as I mentioned earlier I do not expect LFC to trigger his clause at 22m now when they didn't do it for 8m. Do you think it'd happen?

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  58. I doubt we can get a good replacement this late in the window now. I'd prefer Dezeko over any other striker that we're being linked with.

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  59. I don't think there was much interest but just rumors from journos.

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  60. The point is that they did it.


    Mega money definitely makes things easier, but it clearly is not a pre-requisite to success/signing good players

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  61. I'm not unhappy we missed out on Willian. 30 Million for a winger?
    Come on!!!

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  62. But would we? So far we have a negative net spend, that to me shows we have no ambition. Before Coates got his injury we weren't going to sign a CB, this money would not have come into play. If we have spent 30m on Willian that means our net spend would have been about 25m, i wouldn't say that is high for a team wanting to get top 4!

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  63. Shame. Better options than Capel who we're now being linked with again. May be that's another journo rumour. Here's hoping....

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  64. I thought he wasn't interested in us anyway.

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  65. I think that Brendan Rodgers' intensity and work-rate during the summer window has been outstanding. Some of the link up with the other members of the recruitment team has been first class, anyone who says otherwise, isn't fighting for their lives for this club.

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  66. Going to spurs as well, we have missed out yet again

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  67. I don't buy BR comment 'too ambitious'. It feels like scattered and not as focused as should be. Tottenham and Chelsea seem focused. Yes they have more cache right now but LFC is still a storied franchise. For gods sake sign a CD Sakho, papa, Ilori, solid midfielder in case Stevie,heno and Lucas get hurt (no specifcs) and there are some good strikers to choose from. Maybe the team will go sterling and Ibe as that next striker and maybe while risky, not an awful idea if we make our mid and defense super talented,fast and strong......

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  68. Not sure but I know Rodgers is very keen and I was lead to believe that it was due to Rodgers' sniffing around which led to the clause in the first place. Rodgers was in his first season finding his feet etc. But I wouldn't be surprised if there was still interest.

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  69. Still not all that clear cut, for a non-Spanish side to trigger a La Liga player release clause as there is talk of potential tax/VAT on top, etc. It is bit of a grey area where it depends on discretion of selling club/tax authorities. You can trigger the clause but you may have to pay tax on top. Tello is a talent but still, in terms of potential v proven, still less proven than Lamela, although admittedly not by much. But prefer Lamela mostly because he brings a somewhat different dynamic with that left peg of his

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  70. I think mega money IS one of the per-requisites, do you honestly believe Chelsea and City (Out of nowhere) would be where they are now without their fortunes?

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  71. Jamie is there a Liverpool Kop fantasy league anywhere we can join ?

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  72. Apparently Willian is still considering his options despite already passing his medical. If we really believed in this guy, we would try to counter-hijack the process. But I guess we're not willing to stump up the cash.

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  73. I think he'll be like one club player because if he didn't move now then I doubt he'll move in future unless he falls out with the club or they insult him.

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  74. Jamie is there such a thing as a Liverpool Kop fantasy league anywhere we can join ?

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  75. He's a winger who doesn't score goals'!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  76. It does not pay to hire Mercenaries just ask the Khalesi she knows

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  77. No, I don't think they'd go for him if the Willian deal gets finalized. But wait, it can be possible. Jeez why is this happening to us!!!

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  78. I thought we sold Downing ?

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  79. A bit harsh. But you may be right.

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  80. Well said Kieren - Plus showing a little more ambition and going for better players can only help us push for CL places - The rewards for qualification are said to be £40 million!! Worth going the extra mile dont you think?

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  81. Sources in Italy have already confirmed he is going to spurs, of course it might not happen, but then i doubt we will get him

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  82. There seems to be some suggesting that Willian is stalling on putting pen to paper.

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  83. We seems to be missing out on transfer targets to other clubs like Mikhitaryan and now Willian. And we are not losing out to attractive clubs like Real Madrid or Barcelona which I can understand but to clubs like Spurs. I wonder if our approach and selling story to targeted players are not compelling enough to get them to join us.


    Champ League games is only one side of the story but look at Spurs. They are not in the CL but can attract top players. Perhaps Ian Ayre should re-look at the way we sell the ambition and future of the club to targeted players.

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  84. I guess the owner's money were wasted by KD and Comolli. It is now coming back to haunt us, for a long time. Spurs is going to sell Bale for a world record fee and that greatly supplemented the money spent for their new recruits.

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  85. Exactly that's my point there's no funds for transfers that's why we have not signed any real quality players, Since FSG took over they never really invested into players most of the players brought in over the course of the past 3 seasons were only by players sales eg 50 mil for Torres were spend on Carrot and Drowning etc, They should just sell and leave seriously

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  86. They probably wouldn't have been because money in England is so often misspent at the top, meaning that good money usually has to follow bad.


    I honestly believe that mega-money was not a pre-req to success though, Liverpool could have built title contending teams in recent years without breaking the bank. Especially in the last few years where there has been so much complacency at the top of the Prem.

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  87. Doesnt sound like a man ready to make anymore signings. Eriksen and Jackson Martinez and alderweireld or ilori, thats all. Get the cash out BR and tell Ian Ayre to go back to being an accountant. No wonder we're missing out on big signings

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  88. There are funds, just not to be wasted. I would suggest you go do a bit more research, you'll find the owners have invested quite a lot of money. Maybe they shouldn't have bought the club at all, maybe we should have been left to whatever financial decay we were headed for before they took over.

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  89. why would they want to come and play for us Spurs is the happening place right now,its hip to a Spur

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  90. I see your point, but with our team the moment we got close to the pinnacle, self inflicted factors got in our way including unnecessarily unsettling players and trying to bring in inferior ones (I'm talking about you mr Benitez!) and allowing the ego of the manager to get in the way (ditto Benny). So although we and others may have come close, at the moment, only the one's who have spent M.O.N.E.Y have actually gotten there - JUST LOOK AT ARSENAL!!!...Actually don't, don't look at them,. they're not worth it lol

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  91. i don't think he is worth anywhere near 30 million but his assists rate is very impressive.

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  92. On another side note, I'd rather have the dynamic duo of Ayre and Rodgers as opposed to the diabolical mess that is Wenger and the other bloke, what's his name? Ah who cares.

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  93. Did not say we need to spend 30 mil on a single player( can you read) what I'm trying to say is that it looks like we are not going to sign any new player/s because of lack of funds , But there's always cheaper good alternatives available ,The problem is we do not act fast enough.

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  94. liverpool4life5654:19 pm, August 22, 2013

    We've got in 5 signings, which has improved our options, we just need two more players which we will bring in by September 2.

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  95. Might want LFC?

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  96. If only I hadn't felt too much home-sick, I'd have been at Liverpool pursuing my graduation and also having protest outside LFC for their lack of signings.

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  97. The shame is, I think we are willing to spend the money but we can't compete with teams that have better competitions that us.


    Arsenal has the money, the better competition, and the one guy they go after is the one guy they pretty much know they can't get just to make it look like they are willing to spend without actually doing so.


    It's unbelievable what a disservice Arsenal is doing to their fans.

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  98. Mikhitaryan was always going to turn us down to for dortmund and spurs just paid the asking price, liverpool dithered around trying to get a bargain, sometimes in life you just gotta pay up for the things you really want...Ian Ayre wants to impress the owners, that means not making purchases like downing and carroll, so hes never going to pay the asking price which means liverpool will continue to buy players that will develop not players with big pricetags who are about to peak....sad but true

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  99. Personally i think Arsenal shot themselves in the foot over Suarez. If they had come in and bid £45m they would probably have been able to get negotiations underway, but they decided to take the low road and put a penny on the end of their offer. Think that ended their chances in my opinion, that and the fact we didn't want to sell to a rival.

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  100. Self inflicted factors inc. poor decision making with the funds available.


    Spend the same money we've spent in recent years on actual quality players in actual positions of need and we'd be in a MUCH stronger position.

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  101. ...Exactly, didn't want to bring that up again cause I know it upsets Jason Carr. But I agree

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  102. We were told a left back and a top left, were the targets. So do you think Liverpool pulled out of the willian deal to factor in a new CB? It probably went more like, they offered 20 million, for a player valued at 30 million. For me that's not being serious about signing the player. You can offer someone a hundred quid for their Ferrari. Knowing they won't accept it. That for me sums up the transfer policy.

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  103. Alba is no stranger to doing that on the pitch. Annoying too, with the way constantly bickers/moans when he doesn't get a decision.

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  104. Bought 5. Lost or let as many go. Doesn't gurantee improvement in the squad. You can't say toure and mignolet are better than carra and Reina. And the 2 Spanish lads, are they better than shelvey and Downing? You can't tell after pre season and 1 game of the season. The team needs quality additions, to say its improved.

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  105. Tbh I do think that Toure and Mignolet ARE upgrades on Carragher and Reina.


    Carragher was admittedly better than expected last year, but Toure looks better than expected likewise.


    And as I constantly argued, Reina was a below average keeper the last couple of years. His performances over the last few years cost us far more points than they gained for us

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  106. £30m is an awful lot of money if you're not about to get £90m in the bank for one player. Spurs are buying high but buying pretty well because they have the luxury of a windfall. Hopefully it won't happen again to them.
    We need a CB We need a goalscorer/winger . WE are STILL not interested in Diame who will probably go to Arsenal for £4m even though we are reliant on Lucas.
    Now Coates in out I think Sahko is the best option. Illori is still young and we need a 1st teamer to compete with Toure and Skrtyl.
    We can get someone to match Willian's goal/assist return for at least £10m less if we're smart. This is not the end.
    Dortmund remains the model. We just don't have the kind of money that Chelsea Man City and for the moment Spurs have to get top line p[layers after they become top line. Maybe we won't need to.

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  107. liverpool4life5655:22 pm, August 22, 2013

    Mignolet is better than reina, reina lost form and wasn't good. That's my personal opinion. Stats will back that up this season. Toure is on par with carra defensive wise, but overall better because he a threat from corners too. Spanish lads? Aspas better than downing yes. Alberto better the Jonjo? We will have to see.

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  108. who do you suggest we get for £10 m for Willian's goals/assists mate ?

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  109. I said £10m less imoff. that's a £20m player, the likes of Ericksen, Ratikic etc . We don't necessarily have to go to £30m I'd rather the extra £10m go on Papa or Sahko

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  110. My bad , i just read that Skybet have just opened a market on Andriy Yarmolenko's future, with us at 2/5 favourites to sign him by the end of the window ,he'll be around the £ 15-20 million mark i guess.

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  111. Sakho and Yarmalenko would do for me, or Papa and Eriksen if not

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  112. He's been nicknamed the Ukranian Messi - it has "liverpool signing" written all over it.

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  113. My toughts exactly. How we are not in the market for Sakho yet is beyond me because it says that BR was ready to rely on Coates and Skrtel and I'm not confident in them both. Sakho doesn't have injury problems, is fast, strong, and has leadership experience at the highest level to your point; the best available CB out there imo. Tottenham arguably need another CB so I won't be suprised if they beat us to that target as well tho

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  114. i thought he was the next shevchenko

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  115. Hatem Ben Arfa, Kevin De Bruyne (if we offer him consistent football as the bench is where he'll remain with that Chelsea line-up), and Erik Lamela to name a few.

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  116. My bad, yes hes the next Shevchenko, Kerplunkyanka is the next messi. Might not be a bad approach, sign other countries next xxx, or "messis", or "ronaldos" - just not xavis.

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  117. They are signing back Flamini. That will suffice the Gooners for this window(!)

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  118. Spurs are going after some Romanian guy, been on the media's lips for a month. Another rumour is that Chelsea are in for Willian!

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  119. Theycallmemrburt6:36 pm, August 22, 2013

    So I see the Sakho story is gathering pace.

    Could Cissokho have been a signing to cover two purposes?

    1) cover at left back (and no more judging by BR's dead beat comments regarding his signing. BR NOT HAPPY) and 2) and equally important a chum to possibly help Sakho settle into the country?

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  120. instead of buying all these youngsters we should have bought a few with experience, and get back into Europe, then go buy young talent, there will be plenty next year.

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  121. what will happen to Tottenham if bale transfer doesn't happen. a lot of unhappy talent on bench

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  122. Not a bad problem to have, compared to some.

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  123. yes but how long will they warm the bench. whos paying the wages

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  124. Financially, it isn't a good problem. But footballing-wise, its not that big a deal, especially in the short term.

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  125. Skysports are reporting that CHELSEA are in advanced talks with WILLIAN.I hope They get him because that would bring SPURS back to the 4th spot battle with us and ARSENAL.With him and LAMELA they could've set their sights higher.

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  126. That would be a huge highjack but I can't see Jose wasting money on a position they don't need. They need a cover in the full back area imo and that's it; maybe cover for Ramierez as well. Good to hear spurs are in for someone else but BR hasn't moved for a target that the fans have wanted so far (good or bad) and I don't think he'll go for Sakho anyways as much as it would make this transfer period go from "underwhelming" to "acceptable" for me

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  127. Probably wishful thinking!
    Would be funny though....

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  128. Be amusing if Spurs paid for his flight to London but Chelsea ended up signing him

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  129. http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-qqCv5GVR-l0/UhYjZsRZiKI/AAAAAAAALxY/ALKU0wENHX8/s1600/ALBA3.gif

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  130. Shelvey playing not bad tonight

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  131. Agree they made a few before us BUT how many have cut the mustard so to speak Siguderson has done nowt. Dempsey has now gone so so far we aint lost nowt and saved face.

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  132. Yeah, but as I said with those players, that took a minimum hit on them. Us on the other hand....

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  133. try 20+ - 30 and you are closer to true price.... Damiao is one of finest -pure- strikers coming from brazil in recent years. he isnt going to go cheap.

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  134. Capel is fast... thats about it. nothing else to his game

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  135. For me "Marquee" signings come in two forms:
    A) The obvious expensive top draw player
    B) The unknown/less famous/effective player who turns out to be top draw & exactly what we need.

    Overall we've done well with the B type players in Aspas & to some extent Coutinho. I hope we focus on both types, my only concern is that with the A types we're once bitten twice shy & we will always be halfhearted. Sooner or later FSG need to loosen the purse strings!

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  136. we already missed kiwi-messi!



    Yarmolenko is a classy player. doubt the transfer though, since we would need to pay the asking price. if its 20 we will bid 16 and thats it. he will join zenit for full 20. my prediction

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  137. I see it as a strange move too, already got a truckload of attacking midfielders. They need a striker, unless they plan to use Schurrle more regularly there. Or they could lose their marbles and sacrifice Mata for Rooney.

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  138. GerrardCoutinhoSturridge9:48 pm, August 22, 2013

    Willian off to Chelsea now apparently so Spurs might not get him either.

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  139. GerrardCoutinhoSturridge9:50 pm, August 22, 2013

    he never said that he said "some would say" not BR said. Some like Spurs fans saying we are living in the past etc BR never said that.

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  140. GerrardCoutinhoSturridge10:08 pm, August 22, 2013

    thank you Force, i think most of these people can't read.

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  141. Guardian and co are going with a Suarez-Real rumour in tomorrow's papers.

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  142. They've got Torres, Schurrle, Ba, and Lukaku who would all walk into any team in the prem. But Jose has made it clear he wants another striker so it'll be interesting to see Chelsea employing the Man City "overstock strikers" tactic. With any luck, we might knick in for Lukaku if Rooney does make that move (probably not tho).
    I also didnt know Kia was involved...anything could happen and I would be chuffed if BR was able to use our past relationship with the man (during Macherano) to hijack the hijacked deal :)

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  143. Not for me. They are like for like. Reina has dropped to mignolets level now maybe. Although mignolet will improve.Rodgers looked a little downbeat today. He knows its literally impossible to get a top attacking player in now. He desperatley wanted willian. You can remain positive but, we must all agree with what he said. He needs quality players in, for the team to have any real chance of progressing.

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  144. So not a big enough improvement to better 7th then? For me the wage bill has improved but the squad is still reliant on Gerrard, coutinho and Suarez.

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  145. Debatable. I don't think they would.

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  146. liverpool4life56511:56 pm, August 22, 2013

    E.g Torres.... All his money went back into the pot. But we wasted it. Spurs are spending it the right way.

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  147. None of those strikers would walk into Man United or Man City teams, their rivals for the league. Not even close. Not one of them would even be third choice at Man United. None of them are near RVP or Aguero or Rooney, let alone on their level. Torres is a shadow of his former self and just about making a average rehabilitation from the joke he turned into. Lukaku is a potential beast at the highest level but still lot to prove, before he can lay claim to be in the same bracket as the top strikers. Doing the business at West Brom is a bit different to leading the charge for a title challenge. Schurrle is exciting but again, unproven and i reckon he'll be used a fair bit as a wide forward at times, somewhat in the fashion like Reus. Big question marks to be answered by Ba, in terms of whether he is a first XI player for a top 4 side, let alone being a title challenging striker. Chelsea have the numbers but don't have a striker that screams decisive quality like Aguero or RVP does and I think that is why they are after Rooney. He could be a title deciding striker for them. He isn't as clinical or tidy as them but he brings a lot to the table. Wasn't fully fit last season and played all over the show, still comes in with 22 goals/assists in the league. Doesn't matter how many strikers you got, Rooney could be one of those players that give you that decisive step forward to winning the title, which RVP gave Man United last season. Early days but just seems like Jose doesn't have that Drogba-like or Etoo-like faith in the current pool of strikers. Otherwise, he wouldn't be so open about being after Rooney. At Chelsea and Inter, Jose wasn't in the business of rotating strike force, he liked to keep faith in a regular striker/s, whether that be Drogba or Etoo-Milito. Sheva, Crespo, etc, failed partially because of Jose's single minded approach to having a regular speahead/s that he had unwavering faith in. At Real, it was a different story as he didn't have much faith in either Higuain (solely a poacher (Yes, Milito is a poacher but Real's already put up with Ronaldo's poaching instincts, so two was bit of a headache in terms of tactical imbalance, hence one of the reasons why Higuain was in and out of the side) or Benzema (good all round game but inconsistent in front of goal), as well as he could get away with rotating them as he had the goalscoring presence of Ronaldo. None of Chelsea's current strikers come close to Rooney. Signing him would weaken Man United as well as improve Chelsea. You see it differently but I think its obvious as to why Chelsea are after Rooney and why they need him.

    I think its a possible factor as to why we didn't go in harder for Willian, as I think Kia would ask for a lot of money, which pushes the overall package higher. He made a fair bit money from the Masch deal. That is what he and Jorge Mendes do, make big money, whether it be from advising or third party deals. I know, pointing out the obvious as that is what agents do these days but they are the kind of agents that can make-or-break a deal, as such as is their rumored financial demands and power. That past relationship was under another hierarchy and under different circumstances. I don't see it having much effect.

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  148. LFC need to get mega rich new owners who are willing to fork out for world best

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  149. Seems Chelsea have offered £37m for Willian to gazump Spurs, thats crazy money for him, glad we are out of that auction.
    We offered £26.5m, which IMO was about the right price.
    Although still a bit worried with the lack of high end players coming in, if there is a repeat of Dempseygate this season, there will be a revolution.
    I have reached the stage now that I ignore all rumours, until I see them in a LFC shirt.

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  150. Willian could eventually cost £40m with Chelsea entering the fray and apparently making a bid of £37m, he is not worth that, end of, so whats the point in wasting time and effort on him.

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  151. maybe £40m, Chelsea have bid £37m, hope they get him, let the spuds know what it is to poach other teams targets.

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  152. I have told you number of time you are the head man or going for a Job at FSG .
    So your telling us the budget is 30mil .
    we have to buy with that 30 mil CD what lets say 8mil
    and lets say its he is from PSG .
    that leaves us with 22mil to buy 1 class player YES ?
    But its a big bag off bull$#$T .
    We are linked to every player wont don't seem to get them . Your going to say because of champions league lack off is reason . ( not true)
    Its lack off $$$$$$$$ FSG will pay because they got burnt with carroll simple.
    willian FSG want other clubs to go after the players we are in our dreams going for .
    so they have something to tell us the supporters why we did not get them.
    I don't blame Rodgers but at the end of the day he will pay for it first not FSG.
    100% hope I am wrong sure youll tell me.

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  153. No. Not scoring cost us points. Not our goalkeeper.

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  154. Sorry but he's had THREE months to get those quality players in but he was too busy signing Barcelona reserves.

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  155. I get your point but there are so many factors involved in it and the best thing we know about his contract is that its very tough to sort it out just same as Mkhitaryan or even more complex.

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  156. All I can suggest is that people should listen to what he's saying. This is who we are now. We won't spend money we don't have and we will try to get the best players we can at a price we can afford. It's not going to be easy but that's the reality we need to come to terms with. Football has actually been like this for decades, it's only recently that super-rich owners have turned the whole transfer game on it's head. We're not going to have owners like that and not accepting that fact just sets you up for disappointment. We can complain about penny pinching until it drives us mental, it's not going to change.

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  157. I'm not overly concerned... Is Willian really a £30M player? Prob £100K+ a week wages? We have been clearing the decks in regard to wages- Carroll, Downing, Adam, J.Cole for a reason. We weren't getting a return in their performances to warrant the wages and transfer fees. I feel it's right we didn't go over our set limit for this player. There are plenty of young, hungry and skilful players out there for LFC- Tello, Dzagoev, Yarmolenko, Ljajic, Luis Muriel, Adryan, Morata, Muniain for example.. All cheaper and have untapped potential. We can't attract marquee signings without throwing excessive money at them and that's not the path we are taking these days.

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  158. chelsea signed him so does that mean that spurs aren't ambitious wake up and see where the club is at

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  159. If LFC is strongest in financial they won't be struggle to get signing whoever and whatever players they are dream it.New owner John Henry and FSG is not so good so far to become LFC owner.They make new transfer policy but they cannot fullfill it the condition very well.Young talent is good for development system but they not able to pay or meet asking price to realize the dealing.1 by 1 target players are missing away and they can just give a little smile ( frusted ).I think this is 1 provent that LFC owner never give fully support for the clubs.Untill now they cannot get sign marquee signing because never having "big budget".The real is only just get bargain fee.

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  160. Spurs have a pretty good project to point at. They just missed out on CL qualification, are in a European competition and are based in London.


    We lost out on Mikhitaryan to Dortmund. You don't consider them an attractive club, but I think they are. They play their home games in front of 80,000 spectators and, too, have a decent project running there, plus CL football.

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  161. Hope all is well mate

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