12 Aug 2013

Bravo! BR is 100% right to demand Suarez apology for 'total disrespect' of LFC.

After a whole year of enabling, sycophantic kowtowing, Liverpool boss Brendan Rodgers is finally taking a hard line on wantaway striker Luis Suarez. Over the weekend, Rodgers blasted the Uruguayan's 'total disrespect' for LFC, and demanded that he apologise to 'his team-mates and the club'. This show of strength is long overdue, and it's fantastic to see Rodgers finally hammering home the importance of the club over the individual.

Last week, Suarez stabbed Liverpool in the back with his tenuous public allegation that Rodgers and the club had lied to him over his right to leave Anfield this summer. In response, Rodgers vowed to discipline the Uruguayan. He explained:

"I will take strong, decisive action. There has been total disrespect of the club. Things have been said that are derogatory against the football club, his team-mates and the supporters".

Rodgers then made it abundantly clear that Suarez will not play for Liverpool again until he apologises for dissing the club:

"Initially there will be a recognition that [there needs to be] an apology to his team-mates and the club. I’ve spoken to [owner] John W Henry and we’re all on the same page"

With his tough stance on Suarez, Rodgers is now under extreme pressure, but to his credit, he is unwilling to compromise, and point-blank refuses to countenance the possibility of a Suarez return to the first team unless and until he apologises. He told the official LFC website today:

"We have made a stance, as a club and as a manager, of the commitment and the standards required. If you don't have that commitment, and those standards, then you won't play. It's as simple as that. If we have got to sit and wait, then so be it. Until I get that assurance that we are going to get nothing but 100% commitment, then there will be no solution."

This is exactly the approach I want to see from a Liverpool manager:

* Tough and uncompromising, but fair and respectful at the same time.
* Clearly prioritising the club over the individual (no matter how important/expensive)
* Total refusal to accept anyone or anything that disrespects LFC's name and reputation.

What Rodgers is doing here is hammering home the importance of one of the Liverpool FC's most fundamental principles, i.e. No player is bigger than the club. LFC has lost sight of that principle over the last few years (with Rodgers partly to blame), but it's heartening to see that the club has finally woken up and regained its self-respect.

Rodgers is (IMO) absolutely right to demand an apology from Suarez, and he is also right to banish him from the first team until he makes amends for his behaviour. Some may argue that the public nature of Rodgers' demand is wrong, but I disagree. The club needs to redress the balance, alter public perception, and send a strong message that Suarez's behaviour is unacceptable, and there's no better way to do this than making a compelling public statement of intent.

This will be the making of Brendan Rodgers as a Liverpool manager. He is asserting control in the best possible way, and if Bob Paisley or Bill Shankly were still around, I imagine they'd wildly approve of the way Rodgers has drawn a line in the sand, and reaffirmed the club's importance over the individual.

Bravo, Brendan!

Now, please keep it up. Don't give in to the naysayers. Stick to your guns, and if Suarez refuses to apologise, then let him rot on the sidelines.



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116 comments:

  1. but Jamie surely you must see the irony here....rogers slavers over big name players at an-field and defends them to the hilt no matter how bad they play or how much they cheat etc and then wonders why they don't respect him...i have been posting from the git go that singling players out for praise for praise sake is unhealthy ...believe it or not i like rogers and i like a lot of the things he wants to achieve ...i just feel he goes about it at times the wrong way IMO the problems he has with suarez are of his own making...perhaps he will learn a lesson this year to treat all players the same when dishing out the plaudits or better still don't dish any out at all

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  2. Agree with you matey. I really do appreciate BR and back him for his stance over Suarez that he has taken.

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  3. If anyone disagrees with the public nature of Rodgers comments, well the simple fact is that it was suarez himself that brought all this into the public domain. He only has himself to blame.
    Good stance from the club and manager, also very well articulated from John Henry. He needs to start taking a bit more active role in the club, than he did last year, with regards to PR etc not footballing decisions.

    Hopefully Real will come around calling again.

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  4. You're right about the blinkered praise, helps nobody. Hopefully he will be more reserved this year... oreven better, shock horror we start putting in performances regularily which are worthy of such praise.

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  5. I've also slated Rodgers for his approach to players, but it's important that he learns, and doesn't repeat the same mistakes over and over, and that appears to be the case here. If he continued into next season kowtowing to Suarez, it would be a different story, but he's drawn a line in the sand, which shows progression as a manager.

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  6. It's a strong statement but what is the benefit if suarez doesn't play and our objective to get to the top four ? Why not take the money and invest like Jackson Martinez his buyout clause is 40 million €

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  7. At the end of the day, Suarez is an employee of Liverpool football club and must behave accordingly. It is within his rights to want to leave the club, however, the way he has gone about it is despicable.


    Liverpool is correct in taking a stance on the contract issue. However, it will take a power much higher than that of LFC to enforce the notion that contracts aren't worth the paper they're written on and can be freely broken.


    Unfortunately for Rodgers, this tough stance can only go one of 2 ways. Either Suarez falls in line and develops a new-found respect for Rodgers, or he comes to loathe him and becomes even more resolute to push for a move away. I think the latter is most likely.

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  8. I blame rogers for the negativity Allen receives ....constantly over praising him...meant that the expectation was so much greater .....fans are not stupid they watch the game and can see whats going on...perhaps this year if he doesn't mention Allen at all the kid may turn things around

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  9. its not that simple m8 this employee is on big bucks with a cash value

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  10. I think the most telling thing will be, if by saturday this situation is not resolved, ie sold or apology made, will suarez be in the stands to watch the game. If not there is simply no way back. If he is there then there could be a so called, amicable resolution on the card.

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  11. Real Madrid ain't coming calling and if they do, they rate Suarez far lower than arsenal do. They tested the watt at £25m earlier in the window.

    Brenda Rogers' stance will cost Liverpool dearly. They'll either be stuck with Suarez who will devalue by the January window or end of the season - or Brenda will have to eat humble pie and sell to Arsenal who are the only interested party out there.

    Whatever happens, I hope Suarez maintains his stance which demonstrates that no player is bigger than Liverpool................. except Suarez himself. Fact!!

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  12. 2 questions:
    1. Does JM want to come to Liverpool?
    2. Is it worth selling Suarez if the only buyer is Arsenal?


    Despite what BR and Henry say, I feel quite certain they would sell if a foreign buyer comes in for Suarez. Meanwhile, not selling to Arsenal or any other club with a chance of finishing in the top 4 is simply about self-preservation.

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  13. they may well do but if they have any business acumen they will bid around the 20m mark...as a starting point

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  14. The problem is no foreign buyer has shown an inkling of interest in him.

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  15. Good point. BR is saying LFC is in control of the situation. If Suarez is in the stands, or on the bench (is he really injured?), then I accept his assertion.

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  16. The thing is how far is Suarez going to push this? By not handing in a Transfer request he is still hoping to pick up his Loyalty Bonuses lol, so what does that tell you? if he wanted a Move so bad and it wasn't about the Money why no TR? On top of this Liverpool Know its World Cup year and Suarez needs to play at the Highest Level to assure his spot in the uruguay team, So.. Suarez needs to play, you might not think so but he could well be Dropped if Liverpool leave him to rot in the Reserves. So who is going to win this stalemate??

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  17. i don't think there's a way back for LS here unless an apology is made,i'd gladly accept a transfer and sell him even to Arsenal at £ 40 m plus, i'm really sick and tired of all this rubbish

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  18. In the last interview JM is open to transfers he wants to leave Porto if his buyout clause is met he can be the next falcao and I don't see why suarez will not change his altitude (diving,cheats,suspension,arguing with the refere ) let him go to arsenal he caused too much problems for the club

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  19. The Problem is who in the right mind would want a Player that Does this every two years and brings this Much Baggage with him? (think most big clubs won't want there name brought down to his level) Suarez may score some really good goals but he's not a Points Player like Bale, check out how many Prem Points he has actually got Liverpool even though Bale scored less Goals he get Spuds nearly twice the Points. So... for me Suarez has a Good game and scores 3 or bad game and scores nothing but he isn't consistent.

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  20. Exactly, that's why he's not been sold yet.

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  21. Selling to Arsenal will not affect Liverpool's prospects any more or less than selling abroad. Liverpool are a long way away from top 4 even with Suarez at peak performance. That why he wants to go

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  22. If it was so simple to sign Martinez then why has he not ended up in a Napoli shirt yet?


    It is easy for us to sit behind a keyboard and say why are we not signing this and that player.

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  23. At the end of the Day Suarez is an Asset of the Club, the bean counters will add up what he would be worth in Cash to them next to what it would be worth in Prem points for Arsenal and Liverpool not making it into the CL next season because of this deal.

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  24. Well it's worth testing the waters with JM. But most players in that price bracket seemingly only want to go to a club in the Champions League. Frankly, selling to Arsenal would be suicide period. It would be even worse if you we found we couldn't replace him with a quality player.

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  25. Whilst you're correct in saying we are a long way from the top 4, why make it harder?

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  26. Suarez would't dare sit in the stands if this continues.

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  27. Cue the Suarez is injured so he's not here excuse. You're right, he's got a thick skin, but that would be asking for (even more) trouble.

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  28. It's already gonna be harder because his goals are gone regardless of how this saga pans out - unless he has a change of heart and recommits. I can't see that happening in a million years.

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  29. i don't think that Arsenal would spend £45 m on him either

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  30. As far as I am concerned, I have no problem with Rodgers having a positive approach and praising players publicly. It has been proven numerous times that positive talks are good (psychologically).

    When Rodgers praises a player like Allen in the media, we have no idea what he's telling them behind closed doors. As far as I am concerned, I have no doubt that Rodgers criticizes players in the dressing room!


    Rodgers went public and asked for a Suarez apology because LS has chosen to go public! Nothing wrong with that.


    Personally, I am really impressed by BR! I have a feeling that he is teaching the "basics" of football to those spoilt overpaid players again (who forgot what football is about)!



    Yes I am blindly defending Rodgers, because I really have been impressed by the guy!

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  31. You're right, but Henry seems clear in that he doesn't want to give those goals to Arsenal.

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  32. He will continue to be a toxic "asset", its gone too far IMO for an apology to be worth anything......


    Suarez by way of his own actions has forfeited his right to represent the Club, cannot be trusted to make good & he has had enough chances to prove himself whilst being backed by the Club....


    The worrying aspect in all this for me at least is that it only took ONE game against Celtic (a friendly game at that...) for the Suarez apologist to come out in numbers declaring that BR & FSG were the problem for not achieving more at the Club etc and that Suarez was justified in his stance because he didn't represent mid table mediocrity blah blah blah.....


    That is in itself very unsettling & has the potential IF we struggle early on in the season to completely fcuk the whole re building process up, Suarez is playing with fire, i suggest we the fans get right behind our manager in all of this, give him our support, be patient with the transfer window & hope to off load the ingrate abroad whether its in this window or the next, it matters not as long as we do NOT support Luis Suarez against the Club......

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  33. I can't understand for the life of me why their in for him anyways, except that it is a chance to weaken Liverpool who are vying for that 4th spot, even though it always seems unlikely. If Bale was rated in the same price bracket, I reckon Wenger would be in for him,


    For the outlay on Suarez, Wenger could have had a pick of top strikers. Why did he not go in for Remy or Bony?

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  34. I understand the emotions here but football is a business at the end of the day. Liverpool can't afford the financial loss of not selling - even to arsenal. This saga has been mishandled by BR and co and I'd respect them even less if they throw away a lot more money on Suarez's value by keeping him in the reserves whilst paying him £120 a week. Get over it, sell up and bring in players who want to play for Liverpool.

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  35. rogers has praised suarez when he has blantently cheated...if a child misbehaves in class does the teacher praise the child i know its a simplistic comparison but when rogers praises a player for cheating etc it tips the balance of power away from the manager.....how can rogers refering to allen as the welsh xavi have anything but a negative impact...

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  36. Suarez clearly thinks he is in pole position. Maybe he thinks the club will not go as far as letting him rot in the reserves for a whole season, That just shows how 'confident' Suarez is :-)


    Does he know that he signed a legally binding contract last season?

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  37. thats a good point say the crowd turns hostile even if suarez apolgises i know its unliky but there are loads of variables...the police may not even want him sat there for H & s REASONS

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  38. THE THING IS MAX HE SAT THERE ON 120 GRAND A WEEK ...ITS NOT THAT BAD

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  39. A dangerous game and shows the manager has balls big enough to make tough decisions. The likely hood is Suarez gets moved on still and Brendan loses his job. Mancinis falling out with Balotelli and Tevez ultimately cost him his.Thats not to say I dont agree with both clubs stances. I think its great that clubs are not being bullied by unscrupulous agents. This will make or break him as manager in opinion. Just one more point I cant believe there are fans who still back Suarez. I still believe Suarez n Evra was six of one and half a dozen of the other both were out of order with their comments. But, after Ivanovic I said then he had to go no matter how good he is. His behaviour since did little to change that. Theres no need to boo cretins like that thrive on it. Just ignore him he doesnt deserve ackniwledgement anymore.

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  40. Reina, Downing, Carroll and Carra are all off the wage bill mate. That is over 400k a week freed up.


    Suarez will be made an example of and rightfully so.


    He should be brave and try handing in a transfer request. He might just get his wish.


    The club said Torres was not for sale two days before the January transfer window closed remember?

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  41. I think that Barnes is spot on and that players like LS and FT have totally lost the plot after being idolized worldwide by LFC fans and think that they are semi-gods or so. I think that the team is fed up by these guys.

    There were numerous occasions where you could see/guess a clash between the team and Suarez (Suarez scored and nobody went to congratulate him, Robinson telling him to fuck off, nobody willing to take a corner and letting Suarez taking it himself, Rodgers criticizing some players and telling they will leave if they don't play for the club "no matter how good they think they are", etc.). These are some of the things I remember from last season.

    I have the feeling that Suarez leaving will have an VERY positive impact on the team.

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  42. I didn't think I'd be reading you saying you like BR ;) I do agree with you though. I'm a fan of Rodgers and I think he has the POTENTIAL to be a great manager it's just unfortunate that we have got him when he is still learning the trade and hopefully he'll learn from his mistakes (which he has learnt from a few) and eventually make less and less mistakes. Don't forget he is still young for a manager.

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  43. liverpool4life5656:42 pm, August 12, 2013

    So ayre has gone to Spain to complete the deals of cissoko and siqueira :) does that mean erinque might be sold? Or he wants to play erinque or siqueira more upfront... :) least we will have options now :)

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  44. But can we afford to do that..will suarez going to arsenal make that much difference...is it better to have 40m for players or suarez in the reserves..its all semantics..i actually think 40m for a player like suarez is good buiness ...he misses a lot of games and can unsettle a club ...cue liverpool ...wenger is a decent guy i can not see him getting on with suarez if anything selling him to them may tip things in our favour...the chelsea arsenal games will certainly be heated and the london press is ruthless couples with the temptations which london brings

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  45. ive said before i only comment on negatives there is no point in coming on saying everthing is great ....i support liverpool not fsg not gerrad not rogers not suarez

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  46. We have ended our interest in Cissokho. Valencia wanted a permanent move for him while we were only willing to take him on loan with an option to buy.

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  47. liverpool4life5656:47 pm, August 12, 2013

    Oh I didn't see that I just read something which said he was in Spain to complete two deals. But siqueira is better anyway :)

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  48. max where have you been there are a lot of points on the forum which need clearing up

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  49. But that is why I say he might get his wish if he hands in a transfer request.


    The club is not going to pay Suarez a loyalty bonus after all the trouble he has caused.

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  50. Apology won't be coming, at least anytime soon.
    In the end, is this what is in the best interest of the club?
    Rember last off season when there were rumours Pep Guardioal would be manager? Wouldn't that have been great! There wouldn't be any problems with Suarez now. Unfortunately they got Rodgers - not that he is a bad guy, but as a measurement of ambition, hiring Rodgers is indicative of the direction the club is going. Why is it the top players aren't arriving, and the ones they do have want to go? 1 of the reasons is Brendan Rodgers. Not his fault his name has no draw.
    Weather he made a promise or not, I do not know - but he is full of hot air - puts no meaning on the "hair dryer".

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  51. I have cleared up whatever I needed to.

    I came, I saw, I conquered.

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  52. Sick of him myself and dont want him anymore. But i have a feeling if we give him to arsenal, thats CL gone, not because we cant replace him, i just think he'll make the difference for them. Hope I'm wrong...

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  53. I may have missed that and I do sort of agree with that, one of the reasons I prefer to come to this website than other Liverpool fansites as JK puts it "critical realism" however as obviously you only put the negatives it does seem like you are slating every move but I do see what you mean :)

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  54. Is an apology enough? Suarez has been a disgrace and has acted like my eight year old niece does when she doesn't get her own way. She is only young and is slowly learning that it's not acceptable to behave that way. Suarez on the other hand is meant to be a grown man and seems not to learn a thing if anything he is getting worse. From Rodgers comments it seems we will let him rot in the reserves if he doesn't apologies and get the commitment back that is expected from every Liverpool player. So why not sell him? i'd even take £20 million for him now (only to a club outside of the premiership). Surely some club out there wants him there can't just be Arsenal who are interested.

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  55. Everybody seems to miss the big issue of a thing call the transfer request.

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  56. Kenny has defended Suarez as well - for worse than cheating... Can you please post the quotes you refer to about cheating?


    As for Allen-Xavi: if I were your new employer would you like me to tell you: "I believe in you, you can perform 'miracles'" or "you are just an ordinary guy"?



    I am pretty sure that Allen and Borini will go next year if they don't perform this season (c.f. Reina, Downing, Carroll, etc.)...


    Whether he is a good technician or not is irrelevant in this conversation - since it is about his public rants, but in my opinion, BR is spot on about the "spirit" of football. And that's very refreshing in this modern football world (thank you for what you did to our sport J-M Bosman & Lennart Johansson, sorry, I had to).

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  57. If the reports are right that he ain't going to apologies then i can see one coming in very quick. We should be faxing every club in the CL to come and make an offer for him because we have messed up here (well mostly because the clubs who where supposed to come in for him haven't) and it's now obvious we can't keep him at the club.

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  58. A Lot of talk coming out of spain that madrid arent willing to stump up that cash for bale, and would ne just as happy with suarez. Id say watch this space for a bid in the next couple of days. what the amount will be though is anyones guess.

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  59. We do not have to fax every CL club to come and make offers as his agent has already been trying to get him a new club since last season ended.

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  60. I think Madrid will be coming with a bid in the next few days. What it will be is anyones guess, but if its close to the 40mil, sell sell sell....

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  61. Urgh. Can't wait for this to be over. Hoping Real are unsuccessful in getting Bale and end up getting Suarez.

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  62. but he's not doing a very good job about it :-) he couldn't even put the right clause in his contract so maybe we do.

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  63. If LFC had to go begging clubs to sign Suarez then we will end up going a cut price.

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  64. I agree with you there mate. He is putting to much pressure on him added to the £15 million we spent on him. On the other-hand Allen should have known coming to Liverpool that there is going to be pressure on you to perform from day one so he has to take some of the blame. One thing for certain is that he has no excuses now so it's down to him to perform this year. I believe he will surprise a few doubter this year.

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  65. Real madrid are skint , they will only pay in instalments , so there is no point , what we want is a foreign team which gives the money straight away and in full so ot could be reinvested as quick as possible

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  66. Yes, because that's a part of his diruptive agenda/vendetta against the manager representing the Club WHO most of the fan's....want to see given a fair chance at the Club, that won't happen if Suarez doesn't leave because anytime we struggle all the Suarez apologists will be quick to turn on the manager...............


    Its almost like a win win situation for Suarez, if he leaves he will get CL football (something he certainly didn't help us to achieve......) & if he stays his sheer presence at the Club will guarantee enormous pressure for the team & manager....


    I think its reasonable to assume that the dressing room (just like the fanbase.......) will also be negatively affected by whats going on at the Club.....meaning 1 or 2 regular players being on the side of Luis Suarez in all this......for sure.


    The Club will remain toxic whilst Suarez is still here, underperformers need to be outed, anyone who isn't going to give 100% of effort & ability....should be sidelined, otherwise i can see a truly horrible season ahead, this is very much a LS v BR confrontation, i really hope BR knows whose names to put into that envelope this season.....

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  67. I agree that at the start of this saga we shouldn't but now with everything that has happened we should just get rid of him. Surely £20 - £30 million is better than him rotting in the reserves whilst picking up a nice big wage packet every week.

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  68. Real are far from skint. It will be a straight up cash deal, but prob nowhere near the 50mil we would like.

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  69. Fans who thinks the club actually wants to keep Suarez by saying he is not for sale are kidding themselves.


    The fact of the matter is that the club will not under any circumstances let Suarez leave on his terms.

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  70. rogers has defended suarez numerous times over diving etc...he once said to quote '' there seems to be one rule for luis and another rule for others''

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  71. 99 percent of the supporters now just want luis out

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  72. Mate if Suarez and his agent have struggled to find him a new home then why should we go through all the effort of making him have his way?


    If he wants to leave then he needs to make it happen and that starts with him handing in a transfer request.

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  73. They aren't skint. They service their debt very comfortably.

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  74. Jamie i would love to see a poll to see how many fans would take him back if he apologized. With what most fans have already forgiven him for it would be very interesting to see.

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  75. you cant train for the pressure playing for a big club brings some prosper some falter....he should have put a statement out along the lines of hes a good player who when he settles in can be a great player...instead of hes the next xavi and will be worth 30m next year dumbass comments always come back to haunt you..if i was allen reading that id be thinking shut the f*ck up you d*ckhead ive not kicked a ball yet

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  76. Mancini's downfall was to avert all blame from himself.

    Whenever something went wrong, it had nothing to do with him and all to do with the players. When something went right, it was because of him.

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  77. i was one of luis biggest fans but i want him out....its an insult to everything Liverpool means for him to wear the jersey again

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  78. True but Suarez and his agent have no control over the price that's why he has failed to get his move. What is the point in keeping him though?

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  79. dito my opinion too

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  80. plus i wouldn't want to be him traveling anywhere in Merseyside

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  81. It is not about keeping him.

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  82. he does likes a bit of trouble tho ;-)

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  83. How can you be so certain what the Club wants to do re Suarez...?


    I can only hope that we will off load but as you rightly pointed out, he (Suarez) has not handed in his transfer request.....it is still a possibility that BR has simply been told by Henry & Co to deal with Suarez & demand an apology.....


    But what if he (Suarez) Goes through the whole process of apologizing to the squad manager fans etc & promises ever so sweetly.....to get on with things etc......? But at the same time with the intentions off finishing poor Brendans managerial career off by underperforming.......


    Would Henry & Co accept an apology from Suarez???? That to me is the 50million pound question......& IF they do then who are they really backing? BR or Suarez?

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  84. I know its not but why have already made our point mate

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  85. Do you really think Suarez is going to apologise?


    This is all a game of poker.

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  86. Too little, too late.

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  87. I have no idea if Suarez will apologise & i have absolutely no idea how this will play out.....


    I don't see how anyone can definitively know what will happen re Suarez unless they have some very reliable inside info.


    Im not convinced that the reason Suarez hasn't handed in a transfer request is because of his greed re the extra money etc, i'd like to think thats the reason......but what i'd like and what is the reality maybe 2 different things.....


    & if it isn't the money re his transfer request then why would he hold back....???

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  88. Off topic Christian Eriksen odds have been slashed from 3/1 to 1/1 on skybet to sign for Liverpool. Could he be on his way?

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  89. He is holding back because he believes he will get his way. How can nobody see this?


    Wht go to the FA to ask them to help you move from your club when it is easier to hand in a transfer request?


    What he is doing now he has done before at both his previous clubs.

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  90. I'll answer my own question.....perhaps he is thinking that IF he stays at the Club & apologizes....then Suarez apologists fans will defend him by saying that he didn't actually hand in a transfer request.......that he didn't want to leave Liverpool but felt we would never make top4 with present manager BR at the Club....


    He knows the Liverpool fans will forgive him....., well not all of us.....(i won't ever)....but enough will...BR will go from hero to villain & Suarez will once again go from villain to hero, really hope im wrong though....

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  91. That he did not want to leave LFC?


    Cavani will be made out to be the biggest liar too then.


    Wait a minute, he is!

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  92. Yep, this is exactly what i want to know, from reading another LFC forum i would say that quite a few fan's would forgive him....which i find a little alarming tbh, considering how damaging it could be for BR & our season.


    I will be seriously pissed off with the Club if i ever see him play for us again, only the reserves for me regardless of any bullshit apologies.....not sure that this backing by Henry is as solid as it appears tbh.

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  93. Which is the truth...

    I DO NOT defend Suarez... But it is true...


    (actually I am more convinced that ' there seems to be one rule for LFC and another rule for others'')...

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  94. Cavani is only backing Suarez against the manager.....if Suarez stays apologizes & BR's team struggles.....then Cavani will have proved to be right about his good old mate Luis.....


    As i said earlier its a win win fro Suarez, if he stays, he will apologize.....then BR will be stuck with what the hell to do with him.....meaning that Henry & Co would have simply left the toxic problem with BR to deal with......, win win for them too because BR will be the one who will be judged by the fan;s....not them, surely they know this....., so im hoping they do the right thing & sell Suarez, but its certainly not a given like you seem to think..


    Can you imagine Suarez on the bench and we are losing to a top team & BR does not bring him on? In fact no matter who we are losing too....?


    Could really fcuk up our season all this, wouldn't want to be in BR's shoes dealing with this cunt.

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  95. According to you......


    I dissagree, i would estimate that probably 70% (maybe a bit more maybe a bit less) want him gone, 30% i think who might NOT be honest about it.........................would secretly want him to stay.

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  96. My reply is awaiting moderation....

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  97. This article feels like deja vu all over again like one of the us's greatest athletes once said

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  98. I'll run a poll on this tomorrow, but I already know what the answer will be: fans will take him back without hesitation. I'm happy to be proven wrong, but I doubt I will be (!)

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  99. tbh i don't think you will be proven wrong but like many others i would love to see the results. I already know what my vote will be.

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  100. Every article I post about the Suarez situation right now has a different focus. The overriding goal is the ultimately the same though: to emphasise support for LFC and Rodgers in their handling of this debacle.

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  101. Henry comments are probably just to show we mean business and won't be bullied just because a player wants out. We don't need him and the stats back that up. He had a very good season last year but only gained us 11 points. Now that can easily be replaced imo. Don't know for sure but i bet Sturridge gained us just as many in half a season.

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  102. But I do not want Suarez to stay. Maybe you do not understand what I am writing in my replies?

    What I am saying is that the club does not want Suarez to stay but they will not let him go on his terms.

    He will have no choice but to hand in a transfer request if he wants to leave and the club would have made him and his agent well aware of this.

    They did the same with Torres. Torres was also not for sale until he handed in his transfer request and went to a you guessed it...rival.

    Suarez is not going to apologise, it is not in his nature especially if he thinks he is right.


    Like I said in my post below, if he was not after the money then why did he run to the FA (who banned him for 18 matches) to force his move when it is much easier to just hand in a transfer request?

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  103. Maybe the line was always there and the problem wasvthat you didnt see it?

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  104. So what about Agger now? Im not saying its the same, it isnt, but in my opinion the message should be the same; we are building and we need continuity. We do not sell this far into the window. We only buy.

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  105. No chance. You're entitled to think that, but there's no evidence to support it.

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  106. I get your point & im not saying you want Suarez to stay i understand your point re that, just not convinced that what we are hearing from Suarez & Henry is what we think it is.....i.e. what you are saying......


    Thats all, there are other variables to consider, the main one being that Suarez has a huge pull with the fan's and it would only take a quick apology for him to be forgiven......


    Interesting that Sky News yesterday went with the "story" that Suarez would never apologize etc yet there was no substance to that report whatsoever....no direct quotes, nothing, so how the fuck is that reliable...?


    As i said earlier i'd really like to believe that all is as it appears but knowing Suarez (a man who will say anything to get what he wants...) it certainly wouldn't surprise me to hear that he is suddenly willing to apologize which would put the ball back into BR's court wouldn't it?, leaving him with the toxic problem to deal with, whether to play him or not.....


    With the fan's forgiveness on his side, Suarez would then be free to turn the screw on BR.....miss a few sitters...misplace a few passes...... NOT that Suarez would ever consider doing that.....


    Or would he....meanwhile poor BR would have to carry the can, the fans would turn on him...not Suarez. Last season i said on here that it was a choice between BR and Suarez,, either would have to go for us to be able to move on as a Club, it was static & would continue so long as it wasn't addressed, seems i wasn't so far wrong about that............lets not forget that Suarez will have members of the squad on his side also.....


    A failure by the Club to off load Suarez before the window shuts will be a failure to back the manager....he should be sold, i think we can both agree with that.

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  107. Once again my reply is awaiting moderation....

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  108. If your only comments are negative I'm glad you're not my boss. Criticism should be constructive and balance both the positive and negative.

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  109. There can't be evidence if the line was never crossed before can there? What I meant was that maybe Rodgers is more patient with players than you are. Maybe there are things that he deems acceptable or maybe he tried to reason with Suarez more than you would have if you were in his position. Just because people don't draw the line at the same place as you do, doesn't mean that the line is not there. I've had a line all along and he crossed it when Arsenal knew exactly what to bid to get him (or that's what he thought at least).

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  110. I've had a gutful of Suarez I think we as fans should make a stand at anfield against stoke. I want him out and ill let my feelings be known. Ill be bringing a sign saying "Suarez out". We don't need this little animal in our club. Make no mistake we are bigger than Suarez and we should prove it by flogging him and it pains me to say it but even to arsenal if we have to. We are LFC and we are proud and will not be disgraced by one player. If he stays he will never be forgiven by me I will never cheer his name and I don't think I would ever celebrate if he scores. #lfc #suarezout #ynwa

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  111. suarez point out the good faith but only show ill-faith from the start of this transfer saga. He got what he deserve i only want to get top money from him. Even if he stay for a season and we gotto champions league i dont want him here. He is lost investment from now on

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  112. if tino has a good games what is the point of 60 posters all coming on saying the same thing...i want to know the faults with the team, players tactics, club and from a fans perspective what they would do to fix it

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  113. I think this article hits the nail on the head, Rodger may act like he is being tough but the truth is if suarez leaves liverpool is stuck cause we cannot sign any player of suarez quality as seen with costa refusal to come, Rdogers truely rolling the dice with this apology business - #tExcellent and objective Journalism #Gabriele Marcotti

    "Initially there will be a recognition that [there needs to be] an apology to his teammates and the club," said Liverpool manager Brendan Rodgers when asked what Luis Suarez needs to do next. Rodgers went on to talk about needing to "protect the fans and the players because they deserve more."

    Rodgers is rolling the dice on this one by talking about apologies and "protecting" supporters and his squad. First of all, it's unclear what he means by the latter. Liverpool fans are a hardy bunch and, besides, from what danger do they need to be "protected"? The notion that their star player might want to move to a different club?

    That horse has bolted. They know what Suarez said. He made things abundantly clear.

    As for this apology business, even a child figures out that a forced apology is worthless. Assuming Suarez needs to apologize and his teammates are genuinely hurt by his actions -- and that's a big assumption since they're all professionals and they're all big boys, and some of them got to Liverpool because they used the exact same tactic that Suarez is using to try to get out -- the only way it will be meaningful is if they sense repentance. Actions speak far louder than words.

    More to the point, if Liverpool don't sell him, Suarez will be back (after he serves his biting suspension) and he'll still be the club's best player. Does it really make sense to treat him like a child and make him apologize?

    If there's one thing even Suarez's fiercest critics concede, it's that the man is a professional on the pitch. He may be unhappy if he doesn't get his move, but his track record shows he'll be no less committed and effective in terms of what he's paid to do.

    But if Suarez takes Rodgers' talk of apologies as some kind of attempt to humiliate him, it could well be a different story. It might well make more sense -- for the good of the club -- to leave out this apology business, sell or not sell, and if it's the latter, just get on with it.

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  114. Suarez is a trouble maker, and he'll cause troubles again and again, so i'd better see him playing for another team than see him damaging LFC reputation and image in future

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  115. The actual effect of the apology is not what matters. Suarez could just simply say a public apology without even meaning it. Who care, it's not about that. The real variable to focus on here is the new attitude of self respect, professionalism and uncompromising toughness which Rodgers is conveying to the public, and it's ultimately going to contribute to how people perceive Rodgers and Liverpool. This was one of the contributing factors to Ferguson's success; he anointed himself authority. I'm also loving the hard line approach Henry is taking towards Arsenal, along with Rodgers' new affirmative manner. It's basically saying, 'don't f*** with Liverpool Football Club".

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  116. i'm sure he'll find some stupid ways to get suspended and get out of Arsenal in two years time.

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