So much for the Carling Cup victory being a catalyst for Liverpool's push for 4th place! Clearly, it's had the opposite effect, and totally derailed the club's chances. The Champions League was a pipe dream three months ago, and today's damaging defeat just underlines once again how Kenny Dalglish has taken Liverpool backwards in the league.
There's no point going over the same old issues once again, but briefly: the performance was dire; Dalglish's expensive flops did nothing once again, and Liverpool lost the game despite Sunderland missing two of their most influential players.
If things continue the way they're going, this could be Liverpool's worst league season since 1994, when the club finished 8th. Despite the low placing, Graeme Souness' team still managed to get 60 points that season, and it looks increasingly likely that Dalglish's team will struggle to achieve that. Let's look at the facts:
* A paltry 5 league points out of 24 in 2012 so far.
* 5 defeats, 2 draws and only 1 victory in the last 8 league games, with only 6 goals scored.
* League points average in 2012 (i.e. last 8 league games): 0.6 points per game
* League points average for the whole season: 1.4 points per game
* Projected final points total based on last 8 league games points average: 45
* Projected final points total based on last whole season points average: 54
Basically, if Liverpool continue current form, the club will finish on 45 points for the season, but if the season's average is maintained, then 54 points is as good as it's going to get.
54 points after spending 115m?!
There are 33 points left to play for, and I suppose it's possible that Liverpool could go on a great run and win most of their remaining games, but where is the evidence from this season that the club is capable of doing that?
5 points out of the last 24 says it all and it doesn't matter how much you sugarcoat it, three things are depressingly clear:
* Liverpool have regressed in the league since last season.
* Dalglish has completely wasted most of the money he's been given for transfers.
* Liverpool will not finish in the top four this season, and will struggle to even make the top 6.
Having grown up watching Dalglish play, and then manager the great Liverpool team of the late 1980s, it gives me absolutely no pleasure to write this, but as regular readers know, I prefer realism to living in a bubble of denial.
For the fair and objective fans out there, Liverpool's dire season puts Roy Hodgson's 'failure' into stark perspective. Hodgson was professionally and personally denigrated by Liverpool fans to a disgraceful degree despite the many problems going on at the club during his tenure, and if he was in charge right now, there would be blood on the streets.
Dalglish has had every advantage: tens of millions to spend; stability behind the scenes; encouraging and supportive owners; no European distraction; carte-blanche to run the club the way he wants; sub-par Chelsea and Arsenal etc, yet Liverpool's points per game average this season (1.4) is only slightly better than under Hodgson (1.25)
Kenny has argued that Liverpool are in 'transition' this season. That may be the case, but in transition to what, exactly?
On current evidence, the club is transitioning into a state of abject mediocrity.
Jaimie Kanwar
There's no point going over the same old issues once again, but briefly: the performance was dire; Dalglish's expensive flops did nothing once again, and Liverpool lost the game despite Sunderland missing two of their most influential players.
If things continue the way they're going, this could be Liverpool's worst league season since 1994, when the club finished 8th. Despite the low placing, Graeme Souness' team still managed to get 60 points that season, and it looks increasingly likely that Dalglish's team will struggle to achieve that. Let's look at the facts:
* A paltry 5 league points out of 24 in 2012 so far.
* 5 defeats, 2 draws and only 1 victory in the last 8 league games, with only 6 goals scored.
* League points average in 2012 (i.e. last 8 league games): 0.6 points per game
* League points average for the whole season: 1.4 points per game
* Projected final points total based on last 8 league games points average: 45
* Projected final points total based on last whole season points average: 54
Basically, if Liverpool continue current form, the club will finish on 45 points for the season, but if the season's average is maintained, then 54 points is as good as it's going to get.
54 points after spending 115m?!
There are 33 points left to play for, and I suppose it's possible that Liverpool could go on a great run and win most of their remaining games, but where is the evidence from this season that the club is capable of doing that?
5 points out of the last 24 says it all and it doesn't matter how much you sugarcoat it, three things are depressingly clear:
* Liverpool have regressed in the league since last season.
* Dalglish has completely wasted most of the money he's been given for transfers.
* Liverpool will not finish in the top four this season, and will struggle to even make the top 6.
Having grown up watching Dalglish play, and then manager the great Liverpool team of the late 1980s, it gives me absolutely no pleasure to write this, but as regular readers know, I prefer realism to living in a bubble of denial.
For the fair and objective fans out there, Liverpool's dire season puts Roy Hodgson's 'failure' into stark perspective. Hodgson was professionally and personally denigrated by Liverpool fans to a disgraceful degree despite the many problems going on at the club during his tenure, and if he was in charge right now, there would be blood on the streets.
Dalglish has had every advantage: tens of millions to spend; stability behind the scenes; encouraging and supportive owners; no European distraction; carte-blanche to run the club the way he wants; sub-par Chelsea and Arsenal etc, yet Liverpool's points per game average this season (1.4) is only slightly better than under Hodgson (1.25)
Kenny has argued that Liverpool are in 'transition' this season. That may be the case, but in transition to what, exactly?
On current evidence, the club is transitioning into a state of abject mediocrity.
Jaimie Kanwar
fuck off kenny
ReplyDeletefuck off kenny
ReplyDeletewhen will people realise hees a shit manager
ReplyDeletekenny is in the delusion of grandeur, he is arrogant and total out of touch. excuse after excuse .... i feel sorry for myself watching this once great liverpool team... kenny will take it down with him... no hope if this continues
ReplyDeleteExactly. He should be sacked in the summer, Spent a fortune on poor, limited british players. No excuses. He's beginning to sound like Roy. If Roy was in charge there would be calls for his head. The bottom lime is Dagllish spent a fortune on medicority and it's now biting us in the ass. Clueless. FSG should replace him the summer
ReplyDeleteJust a reminder: any post containing personal insults towards Dalglish or any player will be deleted.
ReplyDeleteAnother thing to he constantly goes on about the Carling cup in every press conference
ReplyDeleteHe's just a nice man who thinks he will suddenly turn the club around by being nice and supportive to players from week to week. I don't know if it worked during his previous time as manager, but now it does not. We're in serious trouble squad- and play-wise, and I recall comments by some people on this website at the start of the season (after around 10 games) arguing with me that we were fine, it was just me seeing negatives.
ReplyDeleteFans of a club should be the first healthy critics of the club. That is what real support is.
I respect Kenny D but seriously I don't think he has it in him to be a good PL manager of a top4 side. I mean why play Henderson, Adam, Downing and Carroll continuously, its almost as if he's willing these flops to somehow come good, Stats say it all amongst the 3 they've played something like 70 games and we've got 8 goals and 6 assists to show for it amongst the 4 Buy British flops who were bought for a comibned £80 million. These flops are not fit to wear the LFC shirt. KK for the love of LFC please just Go!!!!
ReplyDeleteOh dear, another pointless away game. The last time we lost three on the bounce I thnik Souness was at the helm. Anyway I haven't seen the game today, but I will watch MOTD tonight and then I will voice my opinion here. Wonder what drivel Hansen and Larwenson will say about it?
ReplyDeleteEverton beat us and they go ahead of us. Is this the utopia we dreamed off when Kenny took a match to our transfer funds? Whats good enough for Hodgson should be good enough for Dalglish but we have a set of emotional fans who live in the past. Fan pressure got Kendall out of Everton, Hoddle out of Spurs and with us kept Souness in a job. Dalglish 2nd tenure with us is almost on a par with his time in charge at Newcastle. In his second season he created a cup side that lost in the final and performed atrociously in the league.
ReplyDeleteThe Dalgish Philosophy at Celtic
"It was John who signed all the players at Celtic," Dalglish said "I don't know who was the worst although there were more bad ones than good ones.
"Obviously there was some consultation between us but, at the end of the day, the guy who is responsible for who plays, how we played and where and when we trained is the guy who is ultimately responsible for buying players."
I'm afraid Kenny needs to turn back the clock and repeat his exit. 20+ years ago Kenny thought he was'nt up to the job....he was right.
I absolutely idolise Kenny but I feel he is not equipped to make us a major force. I feel the best solution would to bring Rafa back. He made us a major force in Europe with nowhere near the financial backing Kenny has had. He was able to buy players then sell them on for a profit to enable the club to buy players like Torres and Mascherano. If you really look in detail what he achieved and ignore the general perception of the press you will see that he did an absolutely incredible job. Also Torres has said that Rafa's attention to detail made him a better player. Hamann's recent comments also suggest that Rafa was a genius. Please come back Rafa!!!
ReplyDeleteI'm sorry to say that I agree. This season has been a terrible waste of a lot of money. He got the players he wanted and they have been average at best. The best midfielders we had (Aqua and Raul) were let go and replaced with Henderson and Adam. Holy crap. The Carling Cup is nothing to brag about so he needs to let that go already.
ReplyDeleteWhy o why do we persist with Henderson,Adam.Downing, they are not fit to wear the red of LFC. we are on course for relegation. I JUST DO NOT UNDERSTAND HIS SELECTION process.THE MANAGER HAS LOST THE PLOT,GO AND TAKE YOUR BACKROMM STAFF WITH YOU,YOU DO NOT KNOW WHAT YOU ARE DOING.
ReplyDeleteAbsolute mediocre rubbish. Suarez for all his dribbling in and around the box, has got some dud composure in front of goal. He is supposed to be our new 'hero' up front and supposed to be worthy of us making PR disaster after PR disaster over the Suarez-incident. Pfft.
ReplyDeleteOur mid-field is dire, I remember chants of "weve got the best mid-field in the world" not so long ago with the likes of Macherano, Alonso, Gerrard....now weve got Henderson, Adam and Jay Spearing..and kenny thinks the club is in transistion, we are going backwards instead of forwards.....KK's signings are poor they are no more than squad players, hes shipped dead wood out and brought more dead wood in. Time to step down KK you have had your time and where there when we needed you.....Bring back RAFFA the GAFFA !!!!!!
ReplyDeleteTo be fair to Dalglish he's not the only Liverpool manager who has spent large sums of money on players who haven't worked out. I think this is the first time so many new players have come into a Liverpool squad so it's pretty obvious his judgement is being questioned over most of the newcomers ability to set the world alight. That being said, I don't think some of the newer squad members know exactly what it means to wear the red shirt.
ReplyDeleteAfter that totally inept performance today I was reminded of the comments of Mancini after City lost at Goodison. 'I thought it would be easier' he said, with utmost honesty. Wonder if Dalglish will be just as forthcoming. As far as a top for finish is concerned forget it ! Knew I shouldn't have put that bet on with William Hill. Following yet another totally underwhelming game from Adam, I trust that he gets relegated to the bench for Tuesday as he is a sending-off just waiting to happen.
ReplyDeleteAnybody happen to know if Guardiola is available for next season ??
Love the man, Love the fact he's been such a stout servant of Liverpool FC for so long! Take nothing away from Kenny, he'll always be a Legend!
ReplyDeleteLiverpool need more right now though. We need to dump the DEAD WEIGHT that is dragging the club down. The waste of space that is Carroll, Downing, Henderson, Adam, Spearing, Coates and the rest of the dunces at LFC.
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Save us from Mediocrity!!!
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That starts with getting rid of Comolli!!!
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Spend every penny we have and get Mourinho, That will be the new dawn Liverpool need and deserve!
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I'm fed up with all the "bad luck" and "4th place is still on" rubbish too...Wake up everyone - 4th place has gone now, and we will be lucky to finish 7th...
ReplyDeleteThe owners are going to have to take a hard look at the team this summer, given how much was spent on average/poor players and how much Dalglish is being paid. Safe to say the "buy English" experiment has failed miserably.
ReplyDeleteif kenny does leave who do we go for as mananger?, rafa? i liked rafa but he had his chance and i dont think he would like commolli above him dictating things. Mourinho? would bring success to the club, that is a fact and it would be interesting how he handles fergie seeing if he where managing liverpool! At present there are not that many good managers out their not tied to other clubs. I think if our slide continues and KK does step down, then i feel mourinho maybe the person to take on the project. it would certainly be a tough one for him as a lot of liverpool fans me included wont give him the instant love and respect, he wil have to earn it. But with mourinho , he does seem to achieive anything he wants
ReplyDeleteAll except Steve Clarke
ReplyDeleteNo but Mourinho might well be. That I would love to see
ReplyDeleteMate, I'd have Rafa back over Mourinho. As much as I idolise Kenny, I felt totally numb watching today's game and, at times, I wasn't really interested, that's not how I remember watching one of Dalglish's Liverpool teams.
ReplyDeleteSteve McMahon hit the nail on the head when he said that he didn't know where Henderson's best position was...I can answer that - Wearside! He was bought as a kid with, supposedly, huge potential. I think he lacks bottle, plain and simple. He won't take the responsibility of shooting whereas Shelvey will do it all on his own if he is allowed to. He is, what, 20? and he already reminds me of Gerrard from a few years ago. HE has the huge potential and he only cost something like £1.5m.
Adam is too slow, lacks the necessary skills and, for all his left foot was like a magic wand at Blackpool, there's been very little sign of it this season. Sure, he's played the odd spectacular pass but his overall contribution is not up to the standard needed for LFC.
I have a good friend who is from Newcastle and he actually thanked ME for the signing of Carroll. He hasn't the pace or, from what I've seen, the footballing brain to be our number 9. I work with a guy who coaches kid's football in Gateshead, he said Carroll, as a kid, was brilliant and told me that he'll come good. I don't think we have the time to wait.
Bellamy looked tired today, Suarez wasn't getting any service, Kuyt was unusually quiet, as were most of the rest. I don't think we actually looked like we should have until Gerrard came on and, by then, it was too late as Sunderland sat back and broke everything up.
I'm at a total loss to where we are going to go after this. I'd hate for Kenny to suffer the indignity of being sacked by Liverpool so, if he is to be replaced as manager at the end of the season, I'd prefer hiim to replace Commolli and for Rafa to come back.
I'm still holding out for a Torres return, if we get Rafa I think we stand a good chance and he can get El Nino back to his best.
agree we seem to be going backwards, reading kk coments today that we were unlucky, must be a differant game to the one i watched,i think i counted one chance we had on goal , seems kk does not now what his best team is, think its time he stepped down , even the carling cup win was a touch lucky, like to see rafa given a chance with the new owners,some of kk big names have shown there out of there depth, any chance of top four has gone, the way we played to day was totaly differant to last week, just lacked amy passion
ReplyDeleteNo point at all in getting rid of someone unless you have someone better to step in. Personally, I believe Benitez would do a better job but in all honesty what would be the point for 10 games unless we intend to give him the job back permanently. Presumably the owners are looking at someone for next year, if they aren't they are foolish as Dalglish can't do the job. If, the only choices for next year are Benitez or Dalglish then it should be Benitez but there are lots of good young managers out there who deserve a chance. I hope that KD steps gracefully aside at season end before he tarnishes his legacy further. His last reign ended with a hopeless signing in Carter and this one started with the worst signing in our History in Andy Carroll, mitigated only by the fact that the money came from Chelsea making probably the worst signing of all time.
ReplyDeletePersonally, I feel sorry for Clarke and Keen, good coaches let down badly by a manager who is past his best and who along with Comolli can't do the job he is paid for. Please Kenny, step aside at the end of the season whatever happens in the FA cup before your memory is tainted beyond redemption.
BTW, Everton are 4 to 1 in places to win on Tuesday. You would have to be totally stupid not to have a few quid on that. Perhaps, Jelavic for first scorer as well. A player that Comolli and Dalglish don't believe is good enough to get into our star studded forward line.
Owen Coyle could step in now and do a very good job at Liverpool. I still believe we should have gone for O' Neill when we ended up with Roy Hodgson.
ReplyDeleteGet rid of Comolli and move KK upstairs. And PLEASE,PLEASE, J Henry bring back SEÑOR RAFAEL BENITEZ back cos wining league cup and finishing 8th or 9th it ain't good enough. But than again we should've expected anything else when u buy average British players for all that money we paid. YNWA
ReplyDeleteYou alone kenny is to blame for your refusal for not dropping these under performers over rated over paid player you had your chance to play some young guns at your disposal today. in truth cardiff played us off the park and we got lucky and won the cup and you think your job is safe well its not, your bringing this club backward you poor deluted fool. In truth i think you are a yes man to these players agents and its all down to money destroying these clubs that way your failing as liverpool manager because there calling the shots not you ,they dont care about the fans just whats in there bank accounts, play football f..k that ask my agent kenny and the next time you come into the dressing room knock on the door with a wet spounge because am on my phone to my alex ferguson sorry sir alex i did my job will i get paid ,you will son good game today..
ReplyDeletei posted a comment and it hasent come up
ReplyDeleteWhy?
ReplyDeleteIt goes to show how far we've come Kenny reckons we matched Sunderland today. Oh dear is this as good as it gets!
ReplyDeleteUnless one is present in the dressing room and training, don't know how a fan/the average joe can be so definitive about whether the backroom staff are good enough, such as Clarke, etc.
ReplyDeletekenny is a yes man to these so called players agents because at half time kenny must have knock on the door with a wet spounge can i come in, is it alright to speak to you will your agents let me, f..k of kenny where all on our phones checking our banks account and when were finish sir alex will give us a call at full time to say what a great game you played today lads kenny doing a great job,see you a cheltenham we got more donkeys to gamble on, or we can sell them to you.
ReplyDeleteDalglish should do the honourable thing and step aside for a better man to come in, as he initially said he would do.
ReplyDeleteSacking him would just see a vocal bunch of fans kicking up a fuss again and making life difficult for the owners and new manager moving forwards.
I think we are starting to work out how long Jaimie thinks fans should support the manager.
ReplyDeleteFive years was too long (Rafa)
Six months was not long enough (Roy)
Just over a year is obviously the tipping point where Jaimie ignores the previous mantra of 'You'll Never Walk Alone' and slips into sack mode.
We need to buy quality but we need them to stay for a minimum of 5 years nearly all of Rafa's best signings did a runner has soon has it got tough after 3 years or jumped ship to go back to Spain and join Real and Barcelona, except for Reina and he had to have his arm twisted to stay!This is the reason Kenny has most probably brought British players that they will be around in 5 years but they are letting him down and he his letting himself down with the constant changing of the team and the pushing aside of the players that did well for us last season when he first took over.
ReplyDeleteEight poor results... bad run... jerk those knees... criticise the current manager... get Martin O'Neill on the phone fast!!!
ReplyDeletewhat team do you follow or what games do you be watching this is not good enough these players, staff and manager are letting the fans down they are taking us for fools destroying our club they should be sacks from ther jobs full stop
ReplyDeleteyeah but not in one season, and mate those players show absolutely no class in the way they play, plus Kenny shows that except Downing and Carroll they're undroppable serious what is going on, in rafa's team the undroppables were Kuyt, Stevie, Alonso, mascherano, lucas (probably to lack of alternative) torres, no comparison. maybe Kenny thinks that suddenly after one season all his signings mentioned b4 will be playing as good as Lucas, no way in hell, they don't show half of the promise plus Lucas was converted from cm/am to a dm, so no excuse for Kenny and his flops
ReplyDeletemourinho after a season or two would get bored and wanted out
ReplyDeletei don't think comolli is the one dictation things, he shows a list of players, a result of the scouting network and than Dalglish looks at it and shows who he wants and prioritize that he wants certain players over the other, and comolli goes and negotiates, and than double checks with kenny when they're asking for stupid money and they decide together
ReplyDeletehe frippin said that we matched sunderland, sorry what, they are so good that we have to go and try to match them, I can't comprehend that liverpool never went and tried to match mediocre teams, unless wait....we have became one, thanks Kenny
ReplyDeleteWhat he said!!!
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Dalglish OUT
Comolli OUT
The longer things stay the same,
The further we will sink!!!
For the sake of being pedantic, a 1.4 points average compared to 1.25 IS progress. It's the progress of an asthmatic ant with some heavy shopping, but it is still progress.
ReplyDeleteIt's ironic, but things seem to have gone steadily downhill ever since Kenny was given a contract, with the football AND the results being extremely encouraging until he got the job full-time. Then, Bingo, Spurs beat us at home.
This season could have been so different, but the dye was cast with the very first game of the season - a host of early chances squandered, a missed pen, succumbing to an equaliser when the game should have been out of sight - and once you get into a habit, it's very hard to break. However, the football is more attractive than under Hodgson (one shot at home to Wolves!!) and Kenny brought back our sense of belief and identity. His first game back he told the TV reporter "That was never a pen", whereas Hodgson would have sucked Fergie's proverbial, shared a glass of wine, and told the TV how lucky we were that United went easy on us...It's just a crying shame that it hasn't worked out the way we all hoped.
I think there's a bit of a clue in the results
ReplyDeleteI meant in terms of coaching/coaches/assistant manager, when talking about people like Clarke as done above. People are saying he should stay. He is there to be an assistant manager. What possibly could the average fan know first hand about his ability as an assistant manager? An average barely knows anything about competency of the back room coaching staff. All we see is what we see on TV. Don't know how anyone can judge a assistant manager, based on that.
ReplyDeleteOk, lets expand on that. Based on that, how does one definitively determine whether, for e.g., Clarke is good enough as assistant manager and deserves to stay or go? Curious really, never really got how trigger happy fans get over coaches and assistant manager. Most amusing reasoning I have come across is how a assistant manager comes across in post-match interviews.
ReplyDeleteAll I gotta say is some one needs to be blamed. And when the blame is put on the players that arn't producing, and when most of them are new signings, then Dalglish just has to go. He's lost the belief of the team also. Today was such a dismal performance. No urgency to score a goal, no pressuring or closing down players. Suarez, Kuyt and Bellamy are the only players that did that, and it was clear that Martin O'Neil got his whole team to do that.
ReplyDeleteTactically Dalglish doesn't know. He may be a motivator, but basing on that kind of performance, there is no character in the team anymore. The only time we look dangerous is if Bellamy gets a break, or if Suarez is trying to dribble through 10 players. Too sad.
And what sickens me more is when some people were never appreciative of what Benitez had in his locker. People would undermine him for tinkering too much, but he had so much knowledge on approaching a game that he could do that. He produced goals. All with minimal funding. For god sakes he only spent big on a player once a year, and got rid of players he thought didn't make the cut. Do you see stubborn Kenny going back on his decisions? It proves now that he performed better last season under good players, and bad this season under bad ones. But he doesn't have the tacticall know how to produce with mediocre players. Benitez would definately done better, and think, would Torres have left? Him and Suarez up front with Aquilani would have made a difference today.
Newcastle fan here who follows Jose and Andy Carroll just to see that the grass isn't always greener. The comparison with Daglish's tenure at Newcastle is a valid one, but when he was with us he bought about 10 players in the first season and 3 became legends - Given, Speed and the greatest of them all Nobby Solano. I'm afraid none of Daglish's recent signings will become legends, bar possible Jose. I doubt anyone will ever find out what went on when Liverpool signed Carroll and Henderson, but someone didn't do enough scouting. I saw Henderson a couple of time against the Toon - you didn't even know he was on the pitch. As for Carroll he was good, but far from great and I believe he was bought on the stenght of a few good games - one of those being when we beat you 3-1 at SJP last Jan when Carroll was superb.
ReplyDeleteIt makes kind of sad thinking about the ending of last season. I loved what I saw and was looking forward for 11/12 to begin but, in all honesty, the HAD signings plus the Lucas injury ruined everything. Meireles, my favorite, left and Maxi was glued to the bench. Kenny tried to fix something that wasn't broken. We had Carroll injured but he has at least the decency now to stay on the bench.
ReplyDeleteI only long for the summer and some radical changes in our squad. Reduce the number of squad players (sell Carroll and Adam - keep Henderson and Downing as late substitutes), face up to the bad decisions made and buy players that can make a difference like Marin, Huntelaar or that other Suarez guy.
The FA-cup? I think we'll beat Stoke and then get run over by Tottenham. Pessimist? No, realist!
not sure he knows the words mate
ReplyDeleteBit of a strange comment to put about if Kenny's man management
ReplyDeleteor coaching skills worked first time round seeing he won 3 league titles and 2 FA Cups!
bring rafa back!!!at least we were a force in europe with him!!!
ReplyDeleteall that cash spen and we can't start playing til stevie gets off he bench.
ReplyDeletewe have no cuting edge and completely lack any invention.
big changes needed i think.
no pride or passion, sack the lot. if half you guys performed that shite at work you should be worried about your job eh?
ReplyDeletei honestly thought kenny was right for liverpool but i think he should drop to running the youth or reserves.
raffa is waiting, least when he has propper money to spend most his signings were world class
henderson wouldn't have got in the sunderland team today.
ReplyDeletehe's one of the biggest nothing players i have ever seen in a red shirt.
i'd like to see a young manager like brendan rogers be given a go.
ReplyDeleteI know mate sad in it , not good enough is an understatement we are rubbish , rolling out the same excuses week after week , we'll keep doing what were doing and see where it takes us , pathetic what were doing is not good enough by miles and miles and our plan is to keep doing it , it's sad but Kenny is not gonna lead us to where we need to be , he said he would always put the club first and he always has , if his name wasn't Kenny Dalglish he would be gone , so he's give it a go obviously tried his best and it is not good enough by a mile , so there's only one conclusion.
ReplyDelete" we matched Sunderland " says it all really done it ? But I'll be there Tuesday pissed off watching it , the thing is your pissed off as soon as you walk in the ground and see the team selection , like three centre halves v stoke and other dippy selections no one agrees with I mean are we all thick could go on forever but won't , follow suit Kenny , for Liverpool Football Clubs sake and the fans sake . While the decision is still yours .
what makes you think that jose would work with comolli? saying that the kids in mackies shouldnt have to work with comolli
ReplyDeletei can remember chelsea fans all for avb, witha good rep and potential. but theres pep at barca i know but hes a one off.
ReplyDeletewe need stability again with the right man and its obviously looking like kenny has run out of ideas with the average players he has. biggest wild card we have is again out on loan again (shelvey) bemuses me, one the biggest talents we have.
its going to be a sad ending.maybe fa cup silverware would soften the blow of finishing 7th or 8th
Kenny is so out of touch. playing golf and watching sky sports for 15 years was not the best prelude to this.
ReplyDeleteKenny has to be held accountable in the manner rafa and hodgson were.Jamies points are clear and can not be argued, facts speak for themselves. As people have said, had rafa spent that money, at least half of the players would have come good. None of kenny's have. trying to replicate blackburn 1995 was a big big mistake-one that is going to ensure kenny is back to the golf course, hopefully pretty damn quickly.i dont care what anyone says, the standard of football this season has been awful, and only one man can be held accountable.sadly i see agger and pepe leaving, maybe luis too, so its back to square one for whoever comes in. factor in the new buys, who will have to be sold or vastly improved, and were worse off than we were when rafa left.we were the most feared team in europe for 5 years, rated number one, not even barca wanted to draw us. now we are a big joke who newly promoted teams don't even fear.i just can't see past benitez, he makes us hard to beat, he improves players, he is a tactical genius. we can't have it all but he ticks more boxes than most.
Alonso £14m
Masch £18m
Torres £20m
Basically the cost of Carroll + Hendo.
I think the MOTTO of Kenny - If you refuse to give up until you've tried everything you reasonably can to make things work, you won't be troubled by regrets later .
ReplyDeleteTottenham averaging 1pt per game from their last eight league games.
ReplyDeleteThrow that forward and they will only get 63pts to the end of the season.
Probably best they sack Harry Redknapp now and let him go do the England job.
Roy Hodgson's West Brom have won four of their last six.
We should judge everything on the last few weeks and try to get him back in as soon as possible.
Or probably even better would be Martin O'Neill - 8 wins in first 14 games in charge of Sunderland, nobody could possibly do as well as that taking over at a club in complete turmoil.
Oh, what was that? Dalglish won 8 of his 14 at Liverpool last season as well when he took over a club in turmoil.
I have stopped watching Liverpool games 1 month ago because i know it just makes me frustrated. I hate to say this but à hope we will loose against Everton. Then maybe the owners will invite Daglish upstairs and then pick up the phone and call Rafa.
ReplyDeleteJust a thought. for so many years, i have been thinking O'Neill is the right man.
ReplyDeleteDo you really believe what you have wrote
ReplyDeleteBreaking news
ReplyDeleteRumours around anfield
king kenny has been sacked
Unfortunately
ReplyDeletethings at LFC are getting pretty ugly after experiencing our third consecutive
defeat in the premier league and I personally don’t see any way of recovery as
long as Kenny Dalglish remains on helm!
It is imperative for John W. Henry, Thomas Werner, Ian Ayre, and Damiel
Comolli to finally realize this as well and finally to take the right decision
as they can factually prove what they have been declaring from the very first
moment they undertook the team that they want to transform it into a superpower
football team again! It is so deplorably
tragic watching LFC games and being possessed by the sentiment that this team
does not actually have a manager who will scout and analyze the opponent teams
and provide the right plan to the players as tactically can play orthodox
football and beat their opponents! So,
if Kenny Dalglish loves this club as he claims I am wondering how he can’t
observe and perceive this reality and for the sake of the team to step down as
LFC’s manager? Kenny was good just for
the transitional period of moving from the ex-ownership to the current. Kenny is not good enough for the modernized
football, thus, he is not the manager who will meet up with our high
expectations!
Unfortunately
ReplyDeletethings at LFC are getting pretty ugly after experiencing our third consecutive
defeat in the premier league and I personally don’t see any way of recovery as
long as Kenny Dalglish remains on helm!
It is imperative for John W. Henry, Thomas Werner, Ian Ayre, and Damiel
Comolli to finally realize this as well and finally to take the right decision
as they can factually prove what they have been declaring from the very first
moment they undertook the team that they want to transform it into a superpower
football team again! It is so deplorably
tragic watching LFC games and being possessed by the sentiment that this team
does not actually have a manager who will scout and analyze the opponent teams
and provide the right plan to the players as tactically can play orthodox
football and beat their opponents! So,
if Kenny Dalglish loves this club as he claims I am wondering how he can’t
observe and perceive this reality and for the sake of the team to step down as
LFC’s manager? Kenny was good just for
the transitional period of moving from the ex-ownership to the current. Kenny is not good enough for the modernized
football, thus, he is not the manager who will meet up with our high
expectations!
Unfortunately
ReplyDeletethings at LFC are getting pretty ugly after experiencing our third consecutive
defeat in the premier league and I personally don’t see any way of recovery as
long as Kenny Dalglish remains on helm!
It is imperative for John W. Henry, Thomas Werner, Ian Ayre, and Damiel
Comolli to finally realize this as well and finally to take the right decision
as they can factually prove what they have been declaring from the very first
moment they undertook the team that they want to transform it into a superpower
football team again! It is so deplorably
tragic watching LFC games and being possessed by the sentiment that this team
does not actually have a manager who will scout and analyze the opponent teams
and provide the right plan to the players as tactically can play orthodox
football and beat their opponents! So,
if Kenny Dalglish loves this club as he claims I am wondering how he can’t
observe and perceive this reality and for the sake of the team to step down as
LFC’s manager? Kenny was good just for
the transitional period of moving from the ex-ownership to the current. Kenny is not good enough for the modernized
football, thus, he is not the manager who will meet up with our high
expectations!
Unfortunately
ReplyDeletethings at LFC are getting pretty ugly after experiencing our third consecutive
defeat in the premier league and I personally don’t see any way of recovery as
long as Kenny Dalglish remains on helm!
It is imperative for John W. Henry, Thomas Werner, Ian Ayre, and Damiel
Comolli to finally realize this as well and finally to take the right decision
as they can factually prove what they have been declaring from the very first
moment they undertook the team that they want to transform it into a superpower
football team again! It is so deplorably
tragic watching LFC games and being possessed by the sentiment that this team
does not actually have a manager who will scout and analyze the opponent teams
and provide the right plan to the players as tactically can play orthodox
football and beat their opponents! So,
if Kenny Dalglish loves this club as he claims I am wondering how he can’t
observe and perceive this reality and for the sake of the team to step down as
LFC’s manager? Kenny was good just for
the transitional period of moving from the ex-ownership to the current. Kenny is not good enough for the modernized
football, thus, he is not the manager who will meet up with our high
expectations!
Unfortunately
ReplyDeletethings at LFC are getting pretty ugly after experiencing our third consecutive
defeat in the premier league and I personally don’t see any way of recovery as
long as Kenny Dalglish remains on helm!
It is imperative for John W. Henry, Thomas Werner, Ian Ayre, and Damiel
Comolli to finally realize this as well and finally to take the right decision
as they can factually prove what they have been declaring from the very first
moment they undertook the team that they want to transform it into a superpower
football team again! It is so deplorably
tragic watching LFC games and being possessed by the sentiment that this team
does not actually have a manager who will scout and analyze the opponent teams
and provide the right plan to the players as tactically can play orthodox
football and beat their opponents! So,
if Kenny Dalglish loves this club as he claims I am wondering how he can’t
observe and perceive this reality and for the sake of the team to step down as
LFC’s manager? Kenny was good just for
the transitional period of moving from the ex-ownership to the current. Kenny is not good enough for the modernized
football, thus, he is not the manager who will meet up with our high
expectations!
Why not, all Kenny has seen since he returned to the club is our best foreign players leaving Alonso/Arbeloa going Mascherano refusing to play for Hodgson then Torres stitching Kenny up by putting in a transfer request on transfer day let's not forget why Andy Carroll is at Anfield.
ReplyDeleteYou give a reason why Kenny has brought mainly British players?
Did they win us the league?
ReplyDelete^ quoted source if you please
ReplyDeleteUnfortunately
ReplyDeletethings at LFC are getting pretty ugly after experiencing our third consecutive
defeat in the premier league and I personally don’t see any way of recovery as
long as Kenny Dalglish remains on helm!
It is imperative for John W. Henry, Thomas Werner, Ian Ayre, and Damiel
Comolli to finally realize this as well and finally to take the right decision
as they can factually prove what they have been declaring from the very first
moment they undertook the team that they want to transform it into a superpower
football team again! It is so deplorably
tragic watching LFC games and being possessed by the sentiment that this team
does not actually have a manager who will scout and analyze the opponent teams
and provide the right plan to the players as tactically can play orthodox
football and beat their opponents! So,
if Kenny Dalglish loves this club as he claims I am wondering how he can’t
observe and perceive this reality and for the sake of the team to step down as
LFC’s manager? Kenny was good just for
the transitional period of moving from the ex-ownership to the current. Kenny is not good enough for the modernized
football, thus, he is not the manager who will meet up with our high
expectations!
Unfortunately
ReplyDeletethings at LFC are getting pretty ugly after experiencing our third consecutive
defeat in the premier league and I personally don’t see any way of recovery as
long as Kenny Dalglish remains on helm!
It is imperative for John W. Henry, Thomas Werner, Ian Ayre, and Damiel
Comolli to finally realize this as well and finally to take the right decision
as they can factually prove what they have been declaring from the very first
moment they undertook the team that they want to transform it into a superpower
football team again! It is so deplorably
tragic watching LFC games and being possessed by the sentiment that this team
does not actually have a manager who will scout and analyze the opponent teams
and provide the right plan to the players as tactically can play orthodox
football and beat their opponents! So,
if Kenny Dalglish loves this club as he claims I am wondering how he can’t
observe and perceive this reality and for the sake of the team to step down as
LFC’s manager? Kenny was good just for
the transitional period of moving from the ex-ownership to the current. Kenny is not good enough for the modernized
football, thus, he is not the manager who will meet up with our high
expectations!
Because he's lost the plot and is living in the past
ReplyDeleteNot a chance that rumour is true.
ReplyDeletesadly. all it would take is a few rafa chants though )
ReplyDeleteYes and Carroll, Adam , Henderson , downing , will win us the league title
ReplyDeleteWe have been a joke in the league this season, I always knew we would struggle because of the SHIT SIGNINGS we made in the summer. Would Man Utd, City, Madrid and Barca sign players like Henderson, Adam, Downing and Carroll No they wouldn't so why do we. Kenny should step down NOW and go back to his ambassador role and Comolli can go to Everton and make them more crappier than they already are. We should bring in Deschamps or Jose as manager and ban them from buying any English and British players as they are all shit and the only British and English players that I would have anywhere near a Liverpool top are Bale and Rooney who wouldn't come to us anyway. Also Jamie should retire at the end of the season and become defensive coach.
ReplyDeleteDrunk at the Albert
ReplyDeleteUnfortunately
ReplyDeletethings at LFC are getting pretty ugly after experiencing our third consecutive
defeat in the premier league and I personally don’t see any way of recovery as
long as Kenny Dalglish remains on helm!
It is imperative for John W. Henry, Thomas Werner, Ian Ayre, and Damiel
Comolli to finally realize this as well and finally to take the right decision
as they can factually prove what they have been declaring from the very first
moment they undertook the team that they want to transform it into a superpower
football team again! It is so deplorably
tragic watching LFC games and being possessed by the sentiment that this team
does not actually have a manager who will scout and analyze the opponent teams
and provide the right plan to the players as tactically can play orthodox
football and beat their opponents! So,
if Kenny Dalglish loves this club as he claims I am wondering how he can’t
observe and perceive this reality and for the sake of the team to step down as
LFC’s manager? Kenny was good just for
the transitional period of moving from the ex-ownership to the current. Kenny is not good enough for the modernized
football, thus, he is not the manager who will meet up with our high
expectations!
Unfortunately
ReplyDeletethings at LFC are getting pretty ugly after experiencing our third consecutive
defeat in the premier league and I personally don’t see any way of recovery as
long as Kenny Dalglish remains on helm!
It is imperative for John W. Henry, Thomas Werner, Ian Ayre, and Damiel
Comolli to finally realize this as well and finally to take the right decision
as they can factually prove what they have been declaring from the very first
moment they undertook the team that they want to transform it into a superpower
football team again! It is so deplorably
tragic watching LFC games and being possessed by the sentiment that this team
does not actually have a manager who will scout and analyze the opponent teams
and provide the right plan to the players as tactically can play orthodox
football and beat their opponents! So,
if Kenny Dalglish loves this club as he claims I am wondering how he can’t
observe and perceive this reality and for the sake of the team to step down as
LFC’s manager? Kenny was good just for
the transitional period of moving from the ex-ownership to the current. Kenny is not good enough for the modernized
football, thus, he is not the manager who will meet up with our high
expectations!
Because the first time around, bulk of the players were Paisley's and Fagan's. Yes, KD brought in Barnes, Houghton, Beardsley and Aldridge but the rest of the playing squad was already instilled with the winning mentality from previous regime!
ReplyDeleteAlso, the first time round, our biggest rival was, Everton. Look where they are now.
When our beloved football club decided to ditch the ill-fitted Roy Hodgson with KD, I was massively disappointed. Not because of who he was and still is...because, of things like these. He's a living legend...and I do not want his reputation to get soiled this way.
KD can't seem to get his brand out of football into the new millenium. I cringed watching Liverpool play nowadays and I always wonder how are we attracting new supported playing like these! There was no tactic, clueless of what need to be done when they have they ball.
Shelvey is everything Henderson is not! Still don't understand why Henderson was brought when we have Shelvey and players in the reserves and academy.
ReplyDeleteWhere has
Teixeira gone has he even played for the reserves yet?
Did the 100million spent in one season looked like we are challenging even for top 4?
ReplyDeleteHe carried on with the Liverpool way but still added his own stamp with winning Liverpool's first double and the team of 88 who most say was the best attacking team Liverpool have ever had then winning the league again in 90, so I don't really think you can question King Kenny's first time round has manager.
ReplyDeleteIsn't the problem with Kenny now is that there are to many tactics, formations and team changes?
No, but they were bloody close. They were a disallowed free kick v Stoke, and a late Tim Cahill header from winning it.
ReplyDeletenot questioning his regime the first time...I am questioning his now. Look at the brand of football, it's still 80s. You do't get anywhere playing like this anymore.
ReplyDeleteRafa used to be so meticulous with his tactics. He know where and who to attack the opponent. Have I seen it in Kenny's team? NO. Yesterday's game just about summed everything that have been wrong about KD's tactics.
Not much of a reason! Don't all of us Liverpool fans live in the past when it comes to the league, Rafa,Torres,Alonso and any other player that is mentioned on here that use to play or manage us?
ReplyDeletethe signing of british players has got nothing to do with the new PL and ECL regulations then.
ReplyDeleteof cause they will just like Torres,Masch and Alonso did.
ReplyDeleteHe has to play him for its writing in his contract when he sign I told u so it's all down to the agents and money for fuck sake are all Liverpool fans deluded it's not the manager who picking the team
ReplyDeleteOur brand of football is like the 80s?
ReplyDeleteHow is that when we keep giving the ball away did we use to give the ball away in the 80s? Didn't the 88 team play with pace?
Nothing wrong with what Kenny is trying to do just the players he his trying to do it with!
Those rules never came in properly because they broke EU employment rules don't forget a player doesn't have to be English to be classed has home grown but a player who has been at the club for 3 years.
ReplyDeleteSecond then!
ReplyDeleteI am not sticking up for them but we have not won the league for 22 years so I don't know why fans bring up players that never did it for us.
ReplyDeleteNever doubted...that great team of Barnes, Beardsley, Houghton, McMahon and Aldridge enforced my love for everything that is LFC.
ReplyDeleteFootball has evolved. That brand of football is at a time when the England National team beat Turkey 4, 5 nil.
Nothing wrong with pace...my gripe is, you should know when, where and how to use it. Currently, we are clueless. Does KD tells his players who to attack, where to attack, what to attack or when to attack? I doubted.
Arsenal got two chances and they make full use of it...what does our 'attack with pace' reward us? Nothing!
Yes, its always one big conspiracy against us isn't it(!)
ReplyDeleteBecause they were better than the current lot, simples.
ReplyDeleteMy no.2 actually
ReplyDeleteOne more thing , why was Stevie on the bench today ? Like so many times this season we have better players sitting in the stands watching than the ones on the pitch playing . If he's fit enough to be on the bench he's fit enough to play surely , like when Suarez come back after his 8/9 match ban he sat watching the first hour of his first game back , how many games has Bellers watched ? Mind you what do I and other fans know , if it was left to us to pick the team we'd probably be miles of the pace , not a massive 2 and 3 points above The Blues and Sunderland , and Fulham and Stoke . Mind you it's like Kenny says we've had to fit in seven new players this season ( two of the seven been here since last jan ) bet Moyes and other bosses relieved they had no money for new players . Joke really in it , would be funny if it wasn't so serious . It's absolutely not acceptable how many points we are off the top , and the talk of 4th place being a success , 27 points behind city after 27 games 14 points behind Spurs who we basically had a play off ( at home ) with for Europa place last season , " we will keep doing what were doing " what a statement , the mind boggles
ReplyDeleteLol you really are a hypocrite and troll... But it's ok insult Rafa like you did on your fb page on numerous occasions
ReplyDeleteHmmm iv heard enough..........
Not really sure what is going on, to be honest. The only thing that is obvious is that we are clearly not anywhere near good enough.
ReplyDeleteI'm not overimpressed by the signings but I think they are better than they are showing, so why is that? I'm sure I saw Downing put in decent performances for Villa last year. He scored against us. So did Carroll. Henderson is the only one that never impressed me last season. Adam was good for Blackpool, although most people knew he was slow and could not tackle. But they are all playing much worse for us now, and surely Henderson must be playing worse if we thought he was worth 16 million. I can't blame Carroll as much as the others because, despite what people seem to think, we just don't create enough chances and his scoring record is not much worse than Suarez. Adam used to be a great dead ball player but he doesn't even seem to be able to do that nowadays. With Gerrard getting older, the midfield needs a complete overhaul in the summer, there is no one in there at the moment that I can see controlling the game for us or creating much. Maybe Gerrard will find form between now and the end of the season but that is not going to be a long term option. After Everton, it's time to try a couple of the best youngsters between now and the end of the season in the league. We should also look to go back to basics and go 442 with Suarez and Carroll playing together to see if, somehow, they can salvage some kind of partnership. All this chopping and changing up front is not helping. Get Kelly in at right back, give Johnson a go on the right of midfield, stick Gerrard alongside one other in the centre of midfield, maybe give Coady a go, have Bellamy on the left, Carroll and Suarez up front. Can't be worse than what we've been watching so far. Time to take a look at Sterling as well. The bench will be reasonable, and players like Adam, Henderson, Downing, Coates can get a run out from there. Most of those ought to be benched and are playing at the level of a substitute for a club in our position. Until they show something, they should stay there. That's how the club used to work. Players like Babel and Riera would have loved to have had the run of games that some of these flops have had.
Move Kenny into the board room, do not go back to Rafa, time for the club to move forward and stop living in the past. If not Lambert or Rodgers, then Villas Boas or, if he will come, O'Neill, who we should have taken when we got Hodgson. Hodgson still wouldn't be doing better, even with 115 million, the buys he brought were still poor at the price and I still remember that he had us in the relegation zone.
No need to be so negative. Liverpool won the Carling cup. A cup is a cup. It inspires the players to yearn for mo... Oh.
ReplyDeleteWe'll see where we are at the end of the season, but it doesn't look good right now. Kenny just doesn't seem to 'get it'.
ReplyDeleteThere are extenuating factors-
- Losing your second best player, Suarez, for 8 games
- The fallout from the Suarez affair (which he didn't help to be fair)
- Gerrard, nominally our best player, being missing/not fit all season
- Losing Agger to broken ribs twice
- Losing Lucas, our best player based on performance, for the season
- Plain bad luck (he can't force players not to spurn chances and hit the post all the time)
That said, it doesn't excuse everything. The big thing is that if he'd spent his money more wisely, most of these problems would not be as severe.
Right now it looks like Hodgson all over again- patently the wrong man for the job. Fortunately Dalglish has things in his 'pros' column whereas Hodgson had more or less nothing to offer (offer us that is, he is a good manager for a small/middle sized team). If we improve between now and the end of the season, I'd be willing to give him another season since I don't believe in changing managers constantly. You worry though that keeping him in a job could be an expensive gamble.
On the bright side (I'm reaching here...) things under Dalglish have never been quite so terrible as when Hodgson was in charge.
Yet...
Mwahahaha
Suarez was hardly in fine goalscoring form prior to the ban.
ReplyDeleteKK doesn't use Maxi and Bellamy as much as he may be should have done. There were times when there was more than over a week, when Bellamy last started a game (I mention this, in case of the Bellamy's knee issues pops up in riposte, as well as he started over 30 games for Cardiff last season in a more physical league). Been underused the pair, unnecessarily, from the outside looking in anyway.
Every team has injuries and African nations absences, its par for the course. Unless it has been injury after injury suffered by the squad throughout the season, its not really much of a extenuating factor, in my view. Its par for the course, its nothing special. The likes of Arsenal and the Mancs have had to deal with worse no. of injuries/absences, as well as maybe Chelsea.
j75j that is a rubbish point. we were feared, we beat the best sides, we attracted top players-we got to 2 finals of the CL. there is NO comparison. You are welcome to your championship trundlers , channel 5+worthless mugs if that's what you want, cause that is all that KD is going to manage.
ReplyDelete100 percent
ReplyDeleteNo good, non english player is going to be attracted to LFC in the summer. Kenny is not a pull.
ReplyDeleteAdam has shown his true worth-f useless, henderson is a big pansy, downing thinks he's hit the big time and his ego is stopping him doing anything good, and carroll is a useless , drunk troll.
what a bunch of absolute cack kenny has bought. but its all ok cause kenny is the hero, the legend.
great logic.
This team does not have the winning mentality nor guile read creativity to win matches this shows our performance against weaker sides at home or away thats why other teams below us look more attractive and incisive than LFC KD should stop justifying his signings by dropping them bring in some changes and start with Maxi Bellamy and more often and give some of the youngsters a run of games enuf of Henderson , Downing and Adam
ReplyDeleteThe worse manager have ever seen in my life is stupid keeny buying british who dont know anything about foothball and players who dont know how to play anything imagine pepe reina the worse keeper in the premier league imagine lfc against arsenal very woeful keeper we need to sack kenny imagine lfc vs sunderland players who know how to play sitting on the bench steven g steward sitting on the bench this people are the players who can change ball why cant you use the players you use against arsenal and thier are a lot of players who will go by summer which is not suppose to be like that you remove adam against sunderland am begging you lfc sack this kenny is the kind of coach we want very stupid coach imagine players like fernando lorente javi mertinez hoilet hazard damien pedro rodriguez aly siscocko lukaz podolski buy qualities players not british players who don t know anything about football
ReplyDeleteSeems like the saying "No one bigger than Liverpool" is missing this "*", as terms and conditions apply!!!
ReplyDeleteKK is a legend but unfortunately after all these years he only belongs back at the museum!!!
Sorry Reds colleagues, but we have to be realistic!!!
You cannot avoid the argument about his tactical naivety and the past also proves why it probably exists- Its not Kennys fault he never got to manage his side in Europe - but this is where the mark of a GREAT manager takes place. The English 1st Division and the teams he battled with would have been familiar to Kenny, same tactics against the brand of English football. He never had to face Arrigo Sacchi's Milan of the 80s (some call this the most perfect team ever), or Cruyff's Barca, or even a very strong Sampdoria team. In the late 80s and early to mid 90s the Italian league was the strongest in the world - all the worlds best players were there and they dominated Europe - Kenny never proved himself as a manager in Europe against the best so of course you can question his credentials as a manager when there are many out there who have. Take Fabio Capello for example - won the league with 4 different clubs (2 different countries) and has had great success in Europe - takes Kenny to the cleaners in the management track record argument.
ReplyDeleteprobably because if in hindsight you review the liverpool teams of recent years, they stand out - out scored everyone and only a few points from the league title. We have not won the league for 22 years as you point out - but that was the best year we had and the team that looked the part to do it - maybe thats why they are mentioned in such high regard. (and they did not cost 120mm)
ReplyDeletei knew this would happen months ago, cannot blame bad luck all season kenny.....poor excuse and yeah u did for us in the past, but that was a longtime ago. Its what happens when u think we have good players. Downing, spearing, henderson & carroll all SHITE AND ONLY GOOD ENOUGH FOR A MID TABLE TEAM. Even before the game yesterday i knew we would lose, now that says it all. Even in the carling cup we were lucky but some of our deluded fans were thinking we would kick on from here. People saying Rafa but sorry he also failed at anfield and cannot forget the way he treated Alonso. Dug hes own grave really in the end. Even Newcastle are ahead of us and again some of our deluded fans were thinking they were lucky. Alan p just look at what he has done at newcastle without spending big. I KNEW IT.......BY BACKING THE SHITE WE HAVE IN THE TEAM IT WOULD COME TO THIS AND FOR THOSE CLEVER FANS WHO WOULD NOT TAKE CRITICISM TOWARDS KENNY OR THE TEAM. I WOULD LOVE TO HEAR FROM THOSE FANS AND SEE WHAT THEY HAVE TO SAY NOW....COME ON STILL THINK KENNYS GOD AND WE'LL FINISH TOP 4. PATHETIC AND WE ARE AS I SAID BEFORE LOSERPOOL!! COME ON MOURINO WE NEED U HERE BUT CANNOT SEE IT HAPPENING
ReplyDeleteBut then again, second is nowhere.....
ReplyDeleteteixeira is injured
ReplyDeleteLambert is a good shout. But would our fans have the patience for another 3-5 year 'project' ?
ReplyDeleteFor immediate results we have to look at Rafa or Jose.
they helped us finish second.something that'll never happen with adam and henderson
ReplyDeleteNever drink from the same well twice is a good Maxim
ReplyDeletethey did come in though mate which is why we have to satisfy the PL squad conditions. which is why we did buy british players all be it it would appear the ones we have signed arent very Good !!!!
ReplyDeleteYou seem to be confused about the fact that the backroom staff actually shape the team, tactics (if they exist in our team), KK brought in an all English backroom, buy British...catch my drift? Clarke, Keen are just as bad as Kenny, they will be swept aside with him.
ReplyDeleteYou are one fan with blind loyalty..The Club is bigger than a manager or player remember? alonso was pissed off with Rafa for asking him to play when his missus was having a babby? Which of his British signings are worth the shirt?
ReplyDeleteKeep Henderson? are you joking, notice that we get beat from the right unless there is Kuyt, the boy is not quality, Aquaman was the best box to box midfielder we had ..remember the pre-seasons?
ReplyDeleteI know other teams have had injuries and have dealt with it better- I said if he'd spent his money better we too could have coped more easily.
ReplyDeleteEven though Suarez wasn't scoring so much before ths ban, if he'd not been banned, the team would be more settled and would have gelled more by now.
How many years did it take for Rafa to build a team that could come second?
ReplyDeleteIt took Rafa 5 years to get a team together and what the hell happened the following year?
ReplyDeleteA Home Grown player will be defined as one who, irrespective of his nationality or age, has been registered with any club affiliated to the Football Association or the Football Association of Wales for a period, continuous or not, of three entire seasons or 36 months prior to his 21st birthday (or the end of the season during which he turns 21).
ReplyDeletePremier League rule on what a home grown player is. For Henderson and Carroll are not home grown! Robinson, Flanagan and even Pacheco would be classed as home grown.
Didn't Kenny's Newcastle team beat Barca?
ReplyDeleteCan't really see the point bringing up all those managers when we are talking about winning the Premier League and none of them have managed in England. Didn't we lose 3 1 at home to an ONeil Villa team under Rafa?
What tactics would you employ against a team like Sunderland? Birmingham were exactly the same under McCleish pressed hard and never allow a team to settle and Rafa never beat them in the league home or away, Rafa and all his tactics couldn't get results away at Stoke giving all these sort of teams a blue print how to play against us Bolton,West Ham,Hull,Portsmouth and Fulham plus others all came to Anfield and went away with a point.Strangest thing is Kenny's team and tactics last season hammered Birmingham side 5 nil explain that one.
Ye we beat a Birmingham who also won the great carling cup and got relegated....so we beat a team who got relegated relegated....
ReplyDeleteNext you'll be arguing that the winners of champions league should qualify for the Carling cup...because Kk won us the cup and that was in style too.
Accept it Kk will be sacked whether he is kicked out or ill health returns again...Kk will be with us no longer.
Good riddence
Mourinho is signing a new contract with Real Madrid in the summer.
ReplyDeleteI don't think Mourinho is the answer, he is arogant and needs £$$$$$ to bring sucess, KK needs to go, he should step down for the interests of our great club and think he will, Comolli needs to be sacked, like he was at Arsenal and Spurs what are we actually paying him for, he is useless...
ReplyDeleteNow RAFFA is a quality manager and he adores Liverpool, he put us back on the map in Europe reaching 2 finals ("winning 1") under his tutorledge, we had our highest league total for years finishing on 82pts, we only missed out on CL football for 1 season that was due to the fact we had a couple of idiots running our great club, the effect of them caused a black cloud over Anfield which was felt by fans, player, coaches, managers and the board itself, Rafa was fighing a loosing battle with no support, he was forced out in the end...
He has come back to his beloved Merseyside with his family as this is the place he now calls home, I agree he made the odd mistake, but there were more positives from his tenure than any other recent Liverpool Manager.
Raffa has come back in the hope he will one day again manage his beloved Liverpool, and is waiting patiently in the wings....Im no expert but if i was a betting man i would say it is only a matter of time before the name of RAFA....RAFAEL... BENITEZ is echoing around are historic stadium again....YNWA.
As for Mouriniho....sorry but no thanks we cabt afford to spend another £200 million on players...
Sorry why couldn't Rafa's tactics beat Birmingham again?
ReplyDeleteUntil the fans turn, KD will stay in charge, unless our best players leave in the summer(possibly) that is. KD was a great, id rather live with that memory than the emerging nightmare. His handling of the suarez affair cost him a lot of my respect. the siege mentality and dumb press handling showed he's not coping well with the pressure.
ReplyDeleteBeing as there is going to be very little transfer activity this summer, it looks like de ja vu next season. how utterly depressing.
don't think Jose would come, not sure that our fans would wait for a 3 year project, to be honest, I think we could still look at O'Neill, though. I still think Villas Boas would have learned a thing or two from his time with Chelsea and is still a top manager. I'd be surprised if the owners would take Benitez and I feel a bit reluctant to go back, but I understand that he never had the funds at the club to build a full team and it could be different this time. Just feel that old idols cause the supporters to be blinkered.
ReplyDeleteso you want your manager to go all tribal on everyone regardless of whether its penalty or not rather than be the voice of reason?? Then sit with your mates and denigrate the likes of SAF for playing mind games?? Then look for meaningless stats to rubbish Hodgson without looking at the bigger picture ??
ReplyDeleteits a refreshing article and clearly shows how out of depth king kenny is. As the reign of the king is fading around the world and rightly so, kenny daglish's selection as a manager shows appointment shud be not on sentiment alone. He is total out of touch with reality. He kept on buying one after another duds even when everyone was criticising the buy. He never listened to liverpool fan and thought he knows more then anyone in modern football. The only logic i think why he bought british and young player is so that he can get respect as a manager. Now just to prove his ego he is playing those duds every game and takin this liverpool team down. Its not the sentiment but success and not history but present that determines how great a manager u r...
ReplyDeleteJose would be really disappointed with that verdict !!
ReplyDeleteNot saying Jose is a bad manager, he has a superb record, but not for LFC unfortunatly we dont have £££££sssssss to spend.
ReplyDeleteThey are homegrown !!!!
ReplyDeleteIt's ANY English or Welsh club.
Not necessarily would happen, in relation to both. Torres plays regularly for Chelsea and his scoring record is woeful still. So no guarantee that Suarez would be doing well in front of goal, without the ban.
ReplyDeleteIn relation to injuries bit, you said its a extenuating factor, which is the bit I wholeheartedly disagree with.
That would be great. Yeah.
ReplyDeleteI think Jose may come just for the ego-trip. Imagine the appeal to him if HE could end the title drought, if HE could eclipse Rafa, if HE could be the one to break the Manc Mafia.
ReplyDeletePersonally I'd like Rafa, though - unfinished business. And there's a few people I know who say they'll stop going if ever Rafa came back, which means my lad can have their ticket.....!!
I haven't said anywhere that the backroom staff do or do not 'shapre the team, tactics, etc. Don't know how you manage to intepret that from what I said. So puh-leez don't assume to know what I am confused about. Secondly, your reasoning for why Clarke is as bad as KK is absolutely laughable, up there with fans basing the competency of a assistant manager based on how he comes across on post-match interviews. Anyhoo, KK brought in an 'all English backroom' you say....yet Clarke is Scottish. With all due respect, that says it all about the quality of your post. If that is 'drift' your on, than I want no part of it, unless I want a giggle.
ReplyDeleteFirst off i wasnt to thank Jamie for mentioning Roy Hodgson and the shockingly bad treatment he got by the fans at LFC, those same fans are the one's who were calling for Dalglish....and NOW calling for Rafa.....
ReplyDeleteDear oh dear what a fine mess we have got ourselves into. I was one of the very few fans who raised objections about the way Roy was treated at the Club, i also said that he was doomed from the start, nay even before the start....pretty much when Kenny came out and said he would like the job.......
Why are we so naive to think that our problems can be solved by the man who arguably has helped create those very problems...i.e. Rafa Benitez...?
Managing Liverpool football Club is akin to drinking from the poisoned challice, the squad is divided, the fan base are divided, and any manager coming into this mess will have a LOT of clearin out to do before the Club can truly move forward, Rafa is not the solution to our woes, he is the cause of them......
Kenny has made the fatal error of trusting some of these players to come good, and they havn't, backing Suarez so defiantly during the racist charge and afterwards was the beginning of the end for him IMO,
dropping Carroll for Suarez and then Suarez playing like shite has not helped his cause much either.....
Looks like he's lost some of the squad tbh, after Bolton and the players bollocking we bounced back a bit but this is proof that our problems are deeper than we thought and Kenny hasn't got a grip of that yet, hope he does stick to his word and drops certain players who have let him down (Suarez and Kuyt for a start....) but i fear he will get it wrong and drop the wrong players again and again until he is sitting at home and wondering why it all went so wrong......
Sad to see this happening, very sad indeed, love Kenny and want him to stay, he deserves a lot better from some of these players, very angry the way they have let him down....but bottom line is he keeps picking them.....
Blame the players HE bought. the buck stops with him. end of.
ReplyDeleteBRING BACK RAFFA !!!
ReplyDeleteIf Mourinho was coming, it would mean that the board had promised him cash!
ReplyDeleteI think he would eclipse Rafa domestically, not sure he could get us to two Champions League Finals, though!
Good luck for you son, I'd say he has a decent chance, the way things are going, think Rafa would wait and take the chance, rather than join Chelsea, if he suspects Dalglish is on the way out. Chelsea has a huge job that needs to be done and might need another season, or more, to replace Terry, Drogba, Lampard and, eventually, Cole. That is a huge part of any team to change. Mata's been great but there is no guarantee, at all, that they will find players, for any price, who can replace their four stalwarts that easily.
Blinding piece. I trended on twitter for explaining how Dalglish undermined first Benitez, then Hodgson. Now we see the fruits of his expensive labour. Love to see West Brom overtake the now-racist Reds. Along with Everton. Justice.
ReplyDeleteNo but we played Champion's League football. Two of those players won Euro 2008, the other Olympic gold and became captain of Argentina.
ReplyDeleteA riddle, I see. Well then I pose to you another riddle. How long did it take Rafa to get Liverpool playing Champions League finals?
ReplyDeleteI'm actually hoping that Chelsea will get Tottenham and Sunderland will beat Everton and then we would get Sunderland in the semi final. You know things are bad when you are hoping to get a team that just beat you!!
ReplyDeleteI wonder if that's why Rafa has declared an interest in the Chelsea job, just so Fenway know he's available? Maybe he's hoping they give him another crack?
ReplyDeleteIt's ironic how 2 years ago Rafa was vilified for buying foreign players as our more 'knowledgeable' fans said the team needed a British spine if he were to have any chance of winning the League. Kenny comes in and tries just that. He buys British. Players who will supposedly have more of an understanding of what it takes. Players who WILL fancy mixing it on a cold day out at Wigan, Stoke et al.
And now everyone is yearning for Aquilani and Mereiles again.
Oh, and neither wanted to stay, otherwise they probably would have.
sack kenny and players he brought to anfield accept suarez ,bring Mourinho to Anfield and let him buy some quality players. Look what he did at Real.M he brought Sami.K and Mesut.O for just 20mil two great players very important for the club.
ReplyDeleteAnother poor performance, Im not one for calling for managers heads, especially not the legend that is King Kenny.
ReplyDeleteHowever I started watching the season with hope and excitement, we started well and were it not for bad luck in a few games we would have been right up there. Then as the season progressed I started to wonder how many times I could blame bad luck rather than blaming the performance. There have been games we have dominated but couldnt get the ball into the net, after spending the best part of 60m on strikers this shouldnt be a problem.
A brief moment of hope came at wembley this season, our chance to shine came and went tho, yes our name is on the trophy but the performance was again dire at best. We needed penalties to beat a championship side for gods sake, to say it took the shine off the win for me is an understatement !
I cannot even describe the results since the carling cup final as my post would probably be removed.
Having just today watched us beaten and out played by newcastle i feel the time for action is near, Im not sure who makes the decisions at liverpool anymore is it FSG is it Ayre or is it Comolli ?
Whoever it is needs to make a statement of intent, move King Kenny into an ambassadorial role and bring in a manager with the modern day pedigree to move this great club we all love forward.
In my opinion bringing back Rafa wouldnt be the worst move, can you ever imagine a Rafa team losing 6 out of 7 games ?
Given the right backing he is a man that can deliver.
Im not so sure that it would happen though, but one thing is for sure at the moment we are heading further and further away from where we belong.
New Strong & Clear Leadership Is Required !