In his press conference on Monday, Kenny Dalglish stated that Liverpool would not be buying any new players during the January transfer window, and he was true to his word as no new players signed in at Anfield last night. Transfer speculation is a normal and expected part of the month of January, yet this cuts no ice with Dalglish, who once again blasted the press for daring to ask perfectly acceptable questions.
In his press conference after the the Wolves game, Dalglish was asked if Liverpool were 'close to anything' before the transfer window closed last night. Instead of just being polite and saying 'no', he - once again - became needlessly antagonistic:
"You must think we tell lies, because we came out yesterday and told you that nothing was happening. It's a bit insulting when you don't believe us, and I don't see why we'd be anything but truthful when we said there was nothing happening, but there you go".
I just don't see why there is a need to be like this. Dalglish's belligerence in front of the press is (IMO) counter-productive. It's perfectly possible that Liverpool might have been trying to bring someone in at the last minute, and asking the question is not an accusing Liverpool of lying, nor is it 'insulting'.
As I've argued before, Dalglish is (IMO) instilling a persecution complex into Liverpool, and it's totally unnecessary. In response to the question, he could've said positive things like 'We're happy with our players' etc, but instead, he turned it into yet another 'everyone is against us' situation.
As usual, I'm sure I will be slammed by the 'Kenny is God' brigade for having this view, but there's just no need for this continual combative attitude, especially after all the negative press that has consumed the club over the last few months.
Jaimie Kanwar
In his press conference after the the Wolves game, Dalglish was asked if Liverpool were 'close to anything' before the transfer window closed last night. Instead of just being polite and saying 'no', he - once again - became needlessly antagonistic:
"You must think we tell lies, because we came out yesterday and told you that nothing was happening. It's a bit insulting when you don't believe us, and I don't see why we'd be anything but truthful when we said there was nothing happening, but there you go".
I just don't see why there is a need to be like this. Dalglish's belligerence in front of the press is (IMO) counter-productive. It's perfectly possible that Liverpool might have been trying to bring someone in at the last minute, and asking the question is not an accusing Liverpool of lying, nor is it 'insulting'.
As I've argued before, Dalglish is (IMO) instilling a persecution complex into Liverpool, and it's totally unnecessary. In response to the question, he could've said positive things like 'We're happy with our players' etc, but instead, he turned it into yet another 'everyone is against us' situation.
As usual, I'm sure I will be slammed by the 'Kenny is God' brigade for having this view, but there's just no need for this continual combative attitude, especially after all the negative press that has consumed the club over the last few months.
Jaimie Kanwar
I like the way Kenny conducts the press releases.. It makes us Liverpool feel special. But hey it's just my personal opinion and everyone is entitled to their own.. Go go KK
ReplyDeleteWell Jamie no one's perfect.
ReplyDeleteConstantly antagonising the press and being rude makes you feel special? Did Liverpool's handling of the Suarez-Evra situation make you feel special too?
ReplyDeleteyou would not understand....
ReplyDeleteOk, in your opinion what part of NO first time round did'nt the press understand.
ReplyDeleteBasically that is what KD is asking.
So what if Dalglish said no; that doesn't mean he should then go over the top and be melodramatic about it, suggesting that the press is accusing him of lying.
ReplyDeleteQuestions about transfers should be expected! That is normal; it is the nature of the press.
The other thing you don't seem to appreciate is that when Dalglish answers questions in press conferences, he is talking directly the fans, who are interested in things like whether there was any last minute transfer activity.
This is the problem: you and other fans will continue defending Dalglish no matter what he does and says; you don't have the objectivity to accept that being endlessly antagonistic towards the press is not a good thing.
If it was Hodgson, I'm sure you and others would be on his back, just like last season.
It's yet another example of fans lionising the individual over the club.
What exactly would I not understand? What I do understand is that fans worship managers so much they're willing to excuse anything, even if it puts the club in a negative light.
ReplyDeleteKing Kenny is the manager. He was appointed on merit and he deserves his role in the club. As "fans" we should be showing him the trust and respect he deserves for what has done with, for and in respect of our beloved club. He has been a tireless servant, and I'd be bored of the press asking repetitive questions all the time. Good for him for letting them know they are being tiresome. Good for him for saying it, when others just patronise them with the one word answers you obviously have more respect for. Good for him for letting his own character and personality come through, and not behaving in a manner expected of a football manager. I like Kenny just how he is. He's doing a great job. As he always does.
ReplyDeleteAgreed Jaimie.
ReplyDeleteThe fact is whether KK is right or wrong is irrelevant. It is bad PR for the Club point blank. He is professional, he must answer in a professional way. Yes from time to time the press do ask shite questions, look at some of the nonsense Jamie writes, but it still his job to answer them. If he cant give a decent answer then let somebody else handle the press conferences.
He is like that with the press because the press and sky sports news are prejudice towards LFC .Look at the man u game all they wanted to talk about was one idiot in the crowd out of 45000 people .No mention of the sick chants from the man u crowd about Hillsborough .No just negative blasts at Liverpool again .YNWA JFT96.
ReplyDeleteKenny is not the God of football and you are not the God of the blogs...
ReplyDeleteyet another biased justification. Dalglish gets paid big bucks to manager Liverpool, and one of his jobs is to talk to the press. As Dionysus says above, if he can't handle it, let someone else answer the questions. It's not his job to create conflict with the press at every given opportunity, almost always without foundation.
ReplyDeleteThe press conferences are for fans too; they want to hear what's going on with the club. Also, it's not as if press conferences are a trial - they usually last between 3 and 10 minutes - surely Dalglish can handle that once or twice a week without being rude and belligerent.
It is not good for the club, and just breeds resentment in the press, who will attack Liverpool even more because the manager is continually rude to them.
Ah would ya relax for Jazes's sake? I'm not one of the 'Kenny Is God' brigade, but I couldn't give an arse what he's like in interviews. I don't want to listen to him - I want to watch his teams playing attractive, successful football. By all means, criticise the man when his team isn't up to scratch. But he obviously hates the press and if anyone stops supporting the team because of something as peripheral as Kenny Dalglish implying that the media gives us a hard time, then we can do without them.
ReplyDeleteTo be fair on Dalgish, it's not as if we haven't recently been slightly bombarded with over-the-top criticism from every section of the press. Of course he's going to be sharp with them - they're digging for stories and they're making up their own truth.
Doesn't it make you realise that Rafa managed to handle the press quite well considering all the shite he constantly took from them? Eh Jaimie????
Jamie you talk so much crap......why have you written an article about KK response to the press........they hound him and LFC with the same old questions. He said that Liverpool FC were not letting anyone come or go so why ask him again?? Us fans only need to hear that once not over and over again.
ReplyDeleteWell the press may not like KD but he is a person that suffers no fool.
ReplyDeleteThe press has been cooking up stories one after another... just look at the Carroll Tevez swap deal.
As long as the press continue with their craps KD is not going to give them a yard.
Haha, you're just an over sensitive/defensive journalist, you don't like the way Kenny responds to Journalists, because you are one. Not everyone likes the press, in fact I would say that most people think they ignorant, manipulators of the truth, and dislike them. I believe the press were far worse in the Suares saga than anything Liverpool did. infact no one other than those closely involved truely know what happened, even the FA report is dubious... the press just draw conclusions and run with them, causing far more damage.... and it happens every day with every story, hence justifying Kenny's attitude to the press. He may be a bit too abrasive, but I would be the when barraged with the amount of stupid moronic questions they asked... in fact I would just laugh in their face, at how stupid they are.
ReplyDeleteAs for you all your repetitive arguments, on Kenny's attitude, Andy Carrol inability to play football, which I find hilarious. You are just as bad.
If journalist didn't ask stupid/entrapping questions, that then get made up into something completely misconstrued, then maybe Kenny and other managers, anybody in fact would be more responsive to questions.
"Don't let facts get in the way of a good story"
werd.
What do you want ? Everyone should just agree with you ? Aren't people entitled to their express their views here ? It may be true that Kenny is a bit paranoid about media targeting him but even you are doing nip-picking in whatever Kenny says. Seems you don't like him.
ReplyDeleteOh god, again with the persecution complex? It's so tiresome, and what you're saying is not even true. Many aspects of the game were covered; what do you expect the press to do, ignore a racist idiot in the crowd?! It's newsworthy, and it's important that it's reported because it further highlights (and demonises) racism in football.
ReplyDeleteNewspapers never report fan chants; if they did, that's all they would ever report because it happens so much. It works both ways - when Spirit of Shankly had a rally a couple of years ago, and everyone there was chanting about Munich, the press didn't report that either, even thought there was video footage to prove it.
Sky sports news are prejudice against LFC? The depth of this persecution complex is truly disturbing, and that's the problem - Dalglish is fanning the flames, making fans think everyone is against Liverpool when it simply isn't true.
That's not really fair Jaimie.
ReplyDeleteYou make it seem like there is a "scheme" that managers should follow. "THIS IS THE WAY TO HANDLE PRESS"
ReplyDeleteI like the way he talks to the press. Why should the reporters always be the ones who can say what they want?
Reformulate the question "I know you denied it yesterday, but is it possible that something has changed in your stance towards transfers before january deadline?" That question would get a "No" answer.
A press conference is a two way game, give and take, respect each other and you will get what you want our of it.
You don't care what he's like in interviews? It's this blase attitude and enabling approach that is partly to blame for Liverpool's ridiculous response to the Suarez-Evra situation. The club clearly thought that their antagonistic, playground response would be accepted by the fans, and clearly it was, despite the rest of the world being able to see that it was ill-advised.
ReplyDeleteKD is an ambassador for the club, and he is not representing the club in the right way when he talks to the press (IMO). the hypocrisy of it all is that if it was someone else, the fans would on their back, just like they were with Hodgson last season.
Case in point: Hodgson said something complimentary about Ferguson prior to LFC's match with Man U last season; he was lambasted by fans to a ridiculous degree. This season, Dalglish showers praise all over Ferguson for his 25th anniversary at Man U, and no one says anything. Utter hypocrisy.
Dalglish doesn't need to be ruse and antagonistic in press conferences; by doing that, Liverpool are basically being rude and antagonistic. How is that a positive thing?
if there were reasons to be ruse I could understand it, but there aren't. The funniest thing is, it usually Liverpool-based reporters who get it in the neck (from the Echo and Post) - do they have an agenda against Liverpool?! No - so why is Dalglish rude to them?
Is the same, you would be fed up when people kept saying that you are a MAN UTD fan :)
ReplyDeleteWhen KD made the comment that nobody is coming in or going out, he meant it, why would that journalist asked him the same question again? In my mind I would think he either didn't do enough reading or just ask for the sake of asking...Is a waste of everybody's time!!!
That journalist should take it as a lesson learn and make sure he do his homework before attend a press conference.
Where have I said people can't agree? I'm giving my vierw like everyone else; is that okay with you?! People can have whatever view they want, but I can have whatever view I want too.
ReplyDeleteI don't like Dalglish? What a ridiculous thing to say, and just a typical blinkered response. I guess the only way I can be seen to like him is if I worship at his altar like everyone else, right? KD is beyond reproach; he is perfect; he must never questioned *insert zombie-like automaton response here*
Please make a list of the 'stupid moronic questions' Dalglish is allegedly asked by the press. Seriously, you seem emphatic about it so you must have some examples.
ReplyDeleteYou are prime example of someone who has bought into the whole 'Everyone is against Liverpool' nonsense. You have been brainwashed into thinking that everyone hates the club, and everything is conspiracy to stop Liverpool progressing.
the problem with the press is, if some one writes a story that is total fabrication, you are still expected to comment on the story.
ReplyDeleteKenny told the press that LFC would not be buying or selling any players in January.
So why do the press need to ask the question, is there any late transfers you are working on, when you have already been told no business will be done this January.
so the fact is, the press are telling him we don't believe you. that means you are questioning his integrity.
The press are calling him a liar, why should he be nice to someone who is calling him a liar?
The press had no right to ask the question in the first place as they had already been told what was happening.
i cannot see why this article is relevant, it appears to me KK came out and told the press "nothing going on here" yet you keep asking, I see KK's point, why keep asking when he has clearly stated Liverpools intent in the transfer window, looks to me like the press are trying to create something out of nothing here, maybe you should listen to the King, if he says nothing is going on, then just maybe "nothing is going on" - go be a journalist and write some news, not moan and create negativity where none is justified!
ReplyDeleteHi Jamie,
ReplyDeleteHe's not turning the situation into an "everyone's-against-us", seems to me that he's just applying his own irritations at having to repeat himself to the press asking him the same question over and over. Does anyone like to repeat themselves over and over again. How frustrated have you been in your continuing championing of Shaqiri (a player I agree with you on completely)?
I think from past press conferences, especially lately, we can see that Dalglish is the kind of man that if he tells you something, answers a question, he expects you to take it onboard as being an honest comment or definitive answer. I'm sure that is how he works when being the person asking questions - he assumes he will be given an honest answer, just like the most of us. I realise as you are part of the press you see it differently in that you should be allowed to ask any question of the club whenever you deem it important to do so. That's not something I'd want to change, but when the answer or reaction isn't what you (by "you" I mean the press) want to hear / see it doesn't mean the manager is being counter-productive or belligerent. The question had already been answered honestly and respectfully, and to come to it, we do our business behind closed doors - The Liverpool way - Something I'm sure you've pointed out in previous posts as a positive aspect of the club. I don't want to tell you your opinion is wrong or say you shouldn't have it, but airing it in this way when it's not clear-cut, and subjective at best, would seem to me to be "counter-productive" and belligerent towards the club we all love. Where's the positivity after a good win last night with some good performances including a !goal! for Carroll?
Okay - are reporters rude and aggressive towards Dalglish? NO. I've seen every single press conference he's given since he returned, and not once has any journalist been less than reverent towards Dalglish.
ReplyDeleteWhat is wrong with asking about transfers?! It is the january transfer window! is it not possible that a manger might make a last minute bid for someone?! Is this something that never happens? How you can even use that as an excuse is beyond me. Asking about transfers is the most natural thing in the world; and it's not as if Dalglish was barraged with questions.
* In his Monday press conference he was if Liverpool were planning to sign anyone.
* After Wolves, he was asked if the club came close to signing anyone.
Two different, fair questions. No need for antagonism.
And again, he was asked both questions by LIVERPOOL-BASED JOURNALISTS, i.e fans of the club. Why be rude to them?
Jaimie K, seems like u got a special place in your heart for the KING! from your comments it is easy to gather that u r a little man.
ReplyDeleteMatt - Do managers always reveal their transfer plans? How many times have Liverpool managers - including Dalglish - stated that nothing was going to happen, and then we end up signing/selling someone?
ReplyDeleteShould we then accuse managers of lying?! Of insulting us? Do you think that would be a reasonable response?
There is nothing insulting or malicious in asking about transfers; it is the standard question all managers are asked, but the difference is, no other manager responds in such a rude, antagonistic manner.
Every Liverpool fan I know, likes and appreciates the way managers stick up for themselves and the club, (ie King Kenny and Rafa), and dislike managers like Hodgson for the way they say nothing when the anti-Liverpool brigades are shouting from the rooftops.
ReplyDeleteYou Mr Kanwar are the total opposite.
The club does business behind closed doors? Is that why Dalglish publicly slagged off the players after Bolton? Is that why the players wore T-shirts defending Suarez?
ReplyDeletePress conferences are for...the press to ask questions! That is what they are for, and any question is allowed to be asked, and should be expected.
For 20 minutes a week, journalists get to ask questions - is it too much to ask to remain civil?
From what i remember Hodgson was lambasted for not wishing to comment on Fergies character assasination of Torres.
ReplyDeleteClearly, another irretrievably biased fan consumed by a persecution complex.
ReplyDeletere:"Dislike managers like Hodgson for the way they say nothing when the anti-Liverpool brigades are shouting from the rooftops"Please expand on this with examples.
pointless article really, who really gives a shit how he acts around the press, Your like my bird reading into everything so much. And so what if he wants a siege mentality, MOurinho did that at chelsea and it worked well, Fergie being doing it for years
ReplyDeleteKenny has always been prickly towards the media, i have to admit, but i personally dont mind as long as he gets the team to play like they did recently. And...Carroll scored...hey nice surprise!
ReplyDeleteWhat your saying is the press have more rights than anybody else to question matters because they have the publics interest at heart. when in fact, its anything to get a story that will sell.
ReplyDeleteThe fact is the press can not be trusted. they have there own agenda, and that agenda is self serving.
Dude the fact that you wrote this makes you better than what "you claim" Kenny to be.. You have gone over the top. Instead of looking and writing about the positives from the match you find something else to go on about. Secondly i think you should disable the Comments functionality on your site as you dont take to well to the comments. So alittle advise, eventhough im sure you (IMO) u dont need it, due to the fact that you "IN YOUR OPINION" know how a manager should react to questions, write something has value if not: please shut up!!!
ReplyDeletei said it before an il say it again....you can not possibly be a Liverpool supporter. To support means to give support and backing to your club. Kenn was there at Hysel and Hillsborough.....he has constantly seen Liverpool persecuted by the English Media...the most corrupt society outside the mafia and the catholic church - and Im a catholic - I know.
ReplyDeleteHe was probably asked a thousand times over last 2 days about transfers and being a stressful job do u not think the human being in him is allowed to put the media in there place. He wasnt being negative...he has a personality...he is a sarcastic fker like most Irish/scots/liverpudlian. Thats wat we love about him...the lovable factor. He is the Manager of Liverpool fc...the protector of many and holds the hopes of millions worldwide.
R E S P E C T DUDE
Let me see you support us one f these days...PLEASE
As per my earlier reply to the thread below, a prime example would be after the Autumn 2010 Man U match, when Fergie decided to deflect focus away from Nani's cheating by suggesting that Torres actually cheated to win the penalties. Hodgson could easily have turned the whole thing round, but chose to say nothing for days, despite being asked about it, and as a result all the press wrote about was Torres being a diver.
ReplyDeleteIt is quite easy to tell you are blinded by the fact that (most) journalists usually are very rude, ask repetitive questions and have a lack of respect for people in general. Where these journalist come from?? Is irrelavant!! I think by kennys latest answer he's showing that he's not willing to be a puppet like some of the others, hel say what he wants, when he wants, talking about things that are RELIVENT and usually what the fans are interested in. So Jamie k, please don't accuse others of being on the kk brigade! When your obviously blind to the fact most journalists are twirps!!
ReplyDeleteI think people should be entitled to their own opinions. Jamie has his albeit i think he is blind in some situations. Others have theirs whilst some are over the top. I love Kenny, but I think he has made some questionable mistakes this season. He has made some great decisions this season. If i were to be asked the same question over again, maybe i would be slightly miffed. Do I like Ferguson?? Nope he is a pr**k, however it does not hide the fact he is a great manager..
ReplyDeleteDid you watch the game? In his chat with Sky Sports reported straight after the game he was asked the same question and gave the same answer... That was right after the game and he dismissed it jokingly at that point. And yes we do do our business behind closed doors ie the buying and selling of players. Criticism and support of players is a different matter that needs to be shown to be public in the rare special cases that Suarez's case was and the shocker at Bolton was - It then has more effect. I bet there's a lot more we never get to hear about because it is behind closed doors...
ReplyDeleteDiscussion boards are here to enter discussion and ask questions, how long would it take you to get annoyed saying no if someone constantly asked you on this discussion board for your address, about 2 seconds I'd guess (this is obviously just an example and please don't assume I want to know where you live) Any question is allowed to be asked on here, doesn't mean it's the right or appropriate question. I know you've taken a bit of a slamming on this post but not all of your responses need to be of the "persecution complex" sort. I'm just pointing out, not in an antagonistic way, that I think maybe you got it a bit wrong with this latest post. Just to clarify I'm not a Jaimie-hater, I think your site offers a great antidote to the mass of "past-glory-tinted-glasses" sites that just seem to be a flock of seaguls regurgitating the same meal of text for each other
If you haven't as yet picked up on the fact that there is a vendetta against all things Liverpool then you have probably been holidaying on the moon for the last 12 months. Dalglish has been handling the press for eons ( as a player and as a manager ) and the wily ol' Scot has a method to his madness ( if indeed you perceive his handling of the media as madness )
ReplyDeleteThe English media are renowned for making smoke even when there is no fire so I understand his sceptism and attitude toward them.
Long live the King !
Haha, yeah, I forgot you're one of the reporters I refer to. Not surprised byt that answer!
ReplyDeleteFirstly, your article deals with Dalglish's response to journalists asking him repeatedly and speculating about transfers that he persistently said we weren't a part of. Would you not agree that his reaction to this line of questioning would be of a slightly different level of gravitas in comparison to persistent questioning of the club's stance on the sensitive issue of racism? I think that's a fair assumption to make. If so, then perhaps it would be more wise to bring up your problems with Dalglish's handling of the racism ordeal separately - and treat this particular issue with more detachment. You're essentially damning Dalglish for one 'crime' and backing it up with evidence from another one.
ReplyDeleteSecondly, I obviously disagree with your ludicrous findings that a blase attitude led to Liverpool's reaction to the Suarez-Evra affair (if anything, it was an overreaction to an overreaction - the public hear the word 'racism' and blow things out of proportion; and the club responds with an inevitable staunch defense), but I choose not to go into this too much for the reason I highlighted in my first point - this particular article deals with a different topic.
In conclusion, I'd suggest that it's in part blogs like this and an apparent need to over-analyse and 'BE THE FIRST TO BREAK THE BIG NEWS!' that is essentially sapping the magic or fun out of football really. As I said in my original comment, I'm more interested in the game. It's unfortunate that PR seems to have taken over so much and I'm sure every manager - Hodgson, Benitez and Dalglish - will tell you the exact same.
Worship is a big word Jaimie K, we support those who defend the honour of being part a big club like Liverpool. If you have nothing to write on i suggest u shut up!
ReplyDeleteThe same f...ckg press (you included) that make us out as racists without having taken the time to study the findings of the Suarez hearing (with all the discrepancies therein). You all have an agenda and still with all your antagonism towards the club and its supporters what else do you expect.
ReplyDeleteKenny's handling of the press is marvelous and fantastic. It's disrespectful when the press refuse to understand and believe what was answered time and time again. You may think it's their job to ask but it's also Kenny's job to protect what he believes (any all of us as well) to be protecting the club.
ReplyDeleteAs polite as Hodgson is, when he was a dead man walking the media 'favorite' was torn to pieces by them. Treat them with respect you say?
Anyway, nice of you to bring this up and create the attention your site needs. Good job.
If you ask me do I like men and I say no and ask me again do I like men and I say. If you ask me the 3rd time then the response is appropiate. Bottom line is we never brought in anyone so your point is not valid. And more importantly we won. Some of the topics you have put on here I have found silly but then a few have been inspired. It is all peanuts in my opinion and for the record I support whoever our manager is but I am not one of the in Daglish I trust brigade. He handled the suarez case very badly and deep down knows it. But this topic in my opinion is very boring to me.
ReplyDeleteAt least you took my advice from yesterday by using IMO....... However your stories are still negative. Great fan!
ReplyDeletewould you not get uptight about answering the same question over and over again when you have made a statement on the matter before?
ReplyDeleteI have not read anywhere about another manager stating they will not be doing any business this January, so it is ok to ask them the question.
Obviously LFC as a club had decided that no business will be conducted in January. Why can that not be excepted by the press?
If LFC then decide to do something, the press would be in there rights to question the integrity of what they are being told.
In the past LFC have have never said they will not do business and then gone and bought or sold someone. They tend to leave things open if business is possible.
Oh come on.... "create conflict with the press at every given opportunity", even you must admit that you have been over the top with that comment.
ReplyDeleteI thought this particular comment from Dalglish was as much a reaction to speculation about the Carroll/Tevez swap as to the question itself. I'll be honest Jaimie, if you want Dalglish to be more civil towards the press corps then you will likely be waiting a long time, he has never been anything other than spiky with the press, right back to when he was player/manager. Comment on it all you like, but you should know it's not going to change.
ReplyDeleteWas the Sky Sports repoter at the game who asked the same question prior to the press conference a Liverpool fan?
ReplyDeleteHey Jaimie K i have been reading a few of your comments let me just say that i don't agree with some of the things KK has done so far and i know that we can not just take the good the football club does, there must be criticism as well but you take things over the top.
ReplyDeleteYou expect LFC to be the perfect football club, as a black man i thought LFC did ok with the Suarez incident, they defended their player.Now before you go on about it, i heard an interview with Gus Poyet (sorry if spelt wrong) and he said that he has a friend that plays football who they call Negro, yes in our world this would be unacceptable but there it happens all the time. That explains why Suarez told the truth when he could have lied nobody else heard it, he even told Kuyt and the management.Now lets not forget he has served 8 weeks and was fined not to mention the fact that he has been branded a racist, no he was not i hear you say, well if you tell the world that someone is using racial abuse towards another than people would assume he is a racist so it's out there.As for KK with the press i am sure that the owners know how to give a press conference so how about we leave that side of it to them or their pr's.It sounds like you are being paid to bait the fans.
If liverpool did sign someone then it would have been the case of him saying' we do buisness behind closed doors'. Kenny could have saidhe is happy with the players he has got but how contradictive would this be when he signs players in the summer! KK said he would not be siging anyone this transfer window andthat is what happened, if reporters are goingto keep bleating on about it then they can expect the wrath if wasting his time with the same stuff. Dalglish operates to the media in the same vain as ferguson of mourinho. he keeps his cards close to his chest, he berates reporters if their questioning is not suitable and ultimatley never gives anything that he does not want to away. The best ever at doing this was brian clugh in his hey day, he was blunt and straight to the point, if you did not like what he was sayin who cares!!
ReplyDeletewell, is it not moronic to ask the same question over and over again.
ReplyDelete- Is it not moronic when the press keep jumping on the bandwagon, flagrantly disregarding anything and everything KD - or any other manager for that matter!
- Every british football outlet, carried the story of KD saying no senior signings this january. I think he has every right to get annoyed. KD has - since taking over - very consistantly, refused to comment on rumours, saying when we have any news we´ll give it to you. that is as clear as saying: No signings in January.
I don´t see why on earth he should have to eloborate on or repeat that, less than 24 hours after making the statement.
bcause as we know, say it with me.....
If there is any news, we´ll give it to you...!
Agreed. The press are not happy because their favourite and the guy they championed for the LFC manager job, Roy Hodgson, was clearly out of his depth and totally the wrong appointment. Whereas the person the fans wanted, after Rafa left, is eventually appointed and is the right appointment.
ReplyDeletejaimie, do you not think there is a reason why Kenny speaks to the press the way he does? Are you that niaive? When the press are battering players like Carroll, Henderson, and Downing constantly in the press on a daily basis, and then using those stories to fabricate stories about new signings that unsettles those players, then i think Kenny has every right to tell the press where to go. They are creating alot of pressure on young players, and if we are going to realise any of our ambitions this season, it is kenny's job to minimise the effect that the press has on those young players. He wants those players to know that he has total faith in them, so they can gain confidence in themselves and start hitting the form that will take this team up to where it belongs. He did a fantatic job of this last season after taking over from Hodgson when confidence was at an all time low.
ReplyDeleteThis is nothing to do with Liverpool being paranoid or the fans being blinkered, it is a way of Kenny deflecting the pressure of the press on to himself rather than the players. Mourihno is amazing at doing this, and lets not forget that Ferguson refused to talk to the BBC for years due to a documentary they did on his son. Redknapp and Allardyce also refused to talk to them due to being discussed on a program. Those things have absolutely nothing to do with their respective football teams, therefore by your definition does that mean they should not be managers???? I am sure Tottenham and Manchester United really dont care how their managers deal with the press, they are simply interested in their football club.
We as fans do not need Kenny to speak to us about transfer specualtion. It is transfer specualtion and leaked links that result in higher transfer fees and also missing out on players as it encourages other teams to come in last minute and bid for players. Liverpool have always been a club that deals behind the scenes, and in recent years we have come away from that and let ourselves down at times. Kenny is going back to the "Liverpool Way", and for me and i think many true Liverpool Fans, I am happy for Kenny to tell me about a transfer when it is completed, and talk to the press however he feels neccessary in the best interests of the club. I really dont care about their perception the press has of Liverpool FC, the players are happy with Kenny and the fans are happy with Kenny, thats all that is important. YNWA!!!
Why does anyone read this drivel you write. If being an utter idiot was an olympic event, everyone would be competing to come second to you. You are a fool and you have no right writing on a site for Liverpool fans
ReplyDeleteBizarrely I find Jamie K's article to be far more antagonistic than anything Dalglish has said. This is clearly written for that very purpose.
ReplyDeleteDalglish wasn't rude to that guy the point is irrelevant. It's his job to answer questions; if you speak to lots of different journalists, you will invariably get asked the same questions. Answer them with grace, in a way that befits the club, not in an antagonistic, irritated way that makse you appear rude.
ReplyDeleteKK has always been a bit off-ish with the media but this season, he has taken it up a level and which is unsurprising, considering the Suarez-incident, Carroll signing, etc but that doesn't mean I agree with KK's behaviour nor do I think it is entirely justified.
ReplyDeleteI am not surprised that quite a lot of the fans are siding with KK, as this season has been, rightly and/or wrongly, about 'us against the world' and 'oh, the aliens are out to get us' attitude.
It is a bit 'oh here we go again', with the 'persecution complex' vibe we have got from KK and a lot of my fellow Pool fans, as we keep playing that tune too many times this season.
We are too 'precious' and 'tribal' in our views at times about our club and those who allegedly are 'out to get us'.
In general, yes, JK's view can be negative but I think its good to have that part of the spectrum, in terms of views about our club from a fan of the club. As it adds a different but valid view about Liverpool-related things and some of it is absolutely spot-on, as fans can be ridiculously tribal and positive. Whereas you got someone like Tomkins who is the opposite and even more so, as he can be nauseatingly positive and tribal.
Nice to be positive. But also nice to be conservative and sometimes negative. Considering our prestige, our history and couple that with the modern day mediocrity, than there rightly so should be negative views along with positive ones.
this report is again so subjective. i don't think you have to be part of Kenny's brigade to not like this article. It's by a man who clearly doesn't like Kenny Dalgleish. Fair enough, but you're interpretation of what he says to the press is just wrong....for instance "into yet another, everyone is agains us"...he was talking about transfers and how it irritates him everytime the press say they're after such a player, even when he said he wasn't. I think anyone would be irked at hearing the same comments coming, even when clarified....it wasn't anything to do with "everyone is against us"...just a badly written subjective piece. It's not bad to be subjective, it's your opinion, but when it's clear as day out of context, it makes you look stupid
ReplyDeletethe thing is, it's not like kenny is acting differently out of the blue. it's well documented since he first took charge of liverpool as player manager that he doesn't like the press and feels awkward around them. greame souness has stated this too. so stop knit picking at trivial matters, and enjoy the fact that since roy evans' reign, we're finally playing football the liverpool way!
ReplyDeleteYou plum, was your grandad Hitler?
ReplyDeleteWhy does it matter so much if he's asked the same question? We are all in control of how we respond to things; Dalglish could be smart and use the questions to say positive stuff about the club; instead, he is rude, and fosters a persecution complex instead.
ReplyDeleteListen to yourself: it's 'moronic' ask the same questions over and over? Don't exaggerate or anything.
After a game, prior to the post-match press conference , there will be lots of reporters from various news outlets asking questions. Are they telepathic? are they supposed to know what other journos have asked prior to them? Obviously, if you have lots of different people asking questions, some questions will get repeated.
Is this a giant conspiracy against LFC? No. It's just journos doing their job, and Dalglish gets paid shedloads of money to deal with the press, and only for about 30 minutes a week, tops.
That's 30 minutes a week where he can foster a dignified, positive outlook on the club. Why waste time antagonising the press for no reason.
And once again, since everyone seems to ignore this point: Dalglish is speaking to the fans in his press conferences too; millions of people across the globe who want to hear about the club. He should have the time and the patience to talk about the club without being rude.
We won a football game last night and you right an article about how Kenny responds to media Hahaha wow man seriously I don't understand do you remember when Kenny was bein asked about Andy going to Newcastle and that stupid media guy said what is Kenny talkin about the picture that was all over the news of what looked like Andy at a bar. He knew exactly what picture Kenny was talkin about was just bein difficult. Media in this country are the reason for a lot problems they ask dumb questions about things they all ready made up. And Jamie honestly I don't why you couldn't right a story on how great Andy played last night instead of more negative shit. You sir are the worst supporter. Kenny Dalglish has got us to Wembley more then anyone could do in a long time.
ReplyDeletewhy ask twice, is one answer not enough for the dumb press
ReplyDeleteThe most pointless post followed by a massive amount of wasted time in the comments getting massively annoyed with something so small and trivial. As H&J would say.... "What a waste of ink!"
ReplyDeleteMost journalists are rude? Where is your proof for that? You seem so sure - please provide evidence that the journalists Dalglish deals with are rude. I've seen every Liverpool press conference for the last five years or so and not once has a journalist been rude. It's the opposite - they're usually respectful, and in Daglish's case, quite reverent.
ReplyDeleteYou're made an unfounded assertion there to back up your argument. Many of Dalglish's press conferences are available online - please find one example of a journalist being 'very rude'. Thanks.
Dalglish does exactly the same thing all the time. His default response to most things, including what other managers etc say about his players is, 'I'm not going to comment on what other people say' - Do you slate Dalglish for that? I think not.
ReplyDeleteI couldn't care less how he responds to the media. The media get what they deserve for the numerous times they disgrace their own profession. Most football commentary in the national press (LFC related or not) I find utter bollocks, especially on TV. The football media are as subjective as any fan, only dressed in objective language. Why should KK be subservient to this? Or any manager? I actually think KK is probably our best manager in a long while dealing with the media. So he gives them a hard time, so what? The media wouldn't hesitate to do the same thing with its subjects. The media have obligations as professionals too (cf hacking etc).
ReplyDeleteIf you don't like it, then obviously you are entitled to your opinion. It makes no difference to me. I don't have a view on the persecution complex you refer to save for this: the most successful managers over the past twenty years in the Premiership have adopted similar practices. Ferguson, Wenger and Mourinho in particular. There is perhaps a good argument to suggest that this approach deflects attention from the players and onto the manager.
Why are you lamming in to Ricade ? He doesnt have to justify himself to you or anyone else.Who are you to be sneering ???
ReplyDeleteKenny moves in mysterious ways his wonders to perform
ReplyDeleteWhen has Ferguson ever been respectful to the media ?? Don't think it has harmed Manchester Utd's stock on the back pages has it ???
ReplyDeleteThis is the press for you "Andy Carroll scored his 5th Prem goal for LFC, not a bad return for £35mil, £7mil a goal", not one mention of Torres costing Chelsea £15mil more than and scoring even less than AC, yeah that's newsworthy.
ReplyDeleteHarry Redknapp the day before the transfer window ended said he wouldnt be doing any business at all and looked what happened at Spurs,so if Honest Harry can tell porkies to keep deals secret then its possible that any other manager could.Dalglish has a long history of keeping everyone guessing,Carroll out cause hes got a bruise was one answer,Gerrards coming along fine,then we dont see him fior the best part of 12 months,Carrolll is staying then hes on the phone trying to swap him for Tevez,no wonder the press dont believe dalglish hes full of BS.I dont believe a word that comes out of his mouth ever.
ReplyDeleteIf that was a story about Liverpool, why should Torres be mentioned?! And what is wrong with that sentence anyway - it's true, isn't it? The truth clearly hurts. Just because Carroll scored for the first time in 12 league games against Wolves doesn't mean he's suddenly a world beater. So far, he hasn't justified his transfer fee, so why is it wrong to mention that? not every journalist is a Liverpool fan. I suppose you think that only Liverpool players have stuff like that written about them too?
ReplyDeleteFerguson and Man United are roundly despised, especially by opposition fans. I would argue that not many people have respect for Man United, whose attitude produces players like the horrible Wayne Rooney. I take it then that you want Liverpoo to become despised like Man United?!
ReplyDeleteA key difference (IMO) between the successful Liverpool team of the 70s and 80s, and Ferguson's team is that Liverpool did it in the right way; they were not arrogant, belligerent and despised. Did opposition fans hate Bob Paisley? Of course not. Why? Because he was dignified and humble, and his attitude extended to the whole club. That's the Liverpool I grew up loving, and the attitude Dalglish has instilled since he's returned is the complete opposite of that.
Good point, CBR - and have any newspapers labelled Redknapp a liar today? No.
ReplyDeleteAnd that proves what, exactly? Hodgson did respond in the end, didn't he? Fans could've just accepted that but they demonised him for it. If Daglish did the same, would you respond the same way? Of course not.
ReplyDeleteDalglish has said positive things about United before or after every game with them since he's returned; did fans get on his back like they did with Hodgson? No.
That comment is absolutely true. If you've watched every Dalglish press conference, you would see that he is regularly antagonistic for no legitimate reason.
ReplyDeleteI would like some analysis of how many positive articles there are to negative on this website. Are you a Man U fan because you sure hate Liverpool.
ReplyDeleteHow am I saying that? The press can ask whatever questions they like, and Dalglish can give whatever answer he likes, but they Press are never rude to him (in my experience), and the questions he is asked are never inflammatory or out of order.
ReplyDeleteSo the Press has an agenda? Big deal. What difference does that make? That is the nature of journalism, and everyone in the public eye has to deal with it. Dalglish can use that to his advantage and give positive answers to questions he deems irrelevant.
For example, when he was asked yesterday if Liverpool had come close to signing anyone at the last minute, he could've said:
"No, we're very happy with the players we have. Andy scored a great goal tonight and that shows you the progress he's making..." and blah blah blah.
Instead, he accused the press of insulting the club, and of accusing him of lying. How is that productive? What possible benefit can come of that?
Hi Gareth - You're right, Dalglish has always been that way, and he may not change, but I'm still going to keep highlighting it.
ReplyDeleteJaimie, you're just gutted because you believed Mick McCarthy that Liverpool were going to sign someone instead of listening to Kenny. You were just too desperate to create/replicate stories about transfer gossip, when Kenny had clearly stated no-one was signing. You're just angry that you were made to look a bit foolish, by continuing to print rumours instead of respecting the opinion of Kenny!
ReplyDeleteBut to be fair he is sometimes a bit touchy, he needs to relax a bit more and enjoy it. Difficult though when people keep sniping at him.
ReplyDeleteYet another one of Kenny's disciples (!). I guess I should respect the word of Dalglish like some people respect the word of God, right?
ReplyDeleteWhat McCarthy said was newsworthy, so I reported it. Additionally, I don't post transfer 'rumours'; this site only posts a transfer related stories when they is a quote from an agent/player/owner/director to back it up.
I may post my opinion on who we should sign occasionally, but I never post just sourceless or quoteless rumours.
Who is sniping at Dalglish? Is asking him a simple question about transfers 'sniping'? The only negative articles I've seen about Dalglish are self-inflicted. They either about his rudeness in press conferences, or about how handled the Suarez situation.
ReplyDeleteThat's how SAF is being respected, because he's got guts to say what he wants and whenever he wants. No discussions and full stop. You are not happy........ well, get away then. FYI i'm simply a liverpool die hard fan, and if criticizing managers at LFC is like fasion, so they should change managers every 3,4,5 years because either they cannot manage their troops, their lunguage,do not choose the right players to buy...etc..... . So go and do the job then you are the perfect manager i suppose...... YNWA.
ReplyDeleteThere is an enquiry ongoing at the minute called the Leveson enquiry, it is about press intrusion and the press over stepping the mark. We are all aware of the negative press LFC received with the Suarez affair, not one paper trying to see a balanced view but all jumping on the race bandwagon and persecuting not only our club but the individual player too. We all of course know about McKenzie and his daily rag and we all know how Rafa was slated by the xenophobic press and other media outlets closer to home. So why should Kenny have any respect for a press that will print anything even "THE TRUTH" just to sell a paper. The press are parasites and have their own darlings in tax dodger Harry and I own the FA Fergie. Kenny is right not to cosy to them and to treat them with disdain, Kenny is his own man and I and the majority of fans respect him for being true to himself and to Liverpool Football Club.
ReplyDeletethe fact you think your giving Dalglish advice is laughable. You post negative commects just to get a reaction.
ReplyDeleteYour just an attention seeking idiot. There is a vast difference between getting lots of post because people like you and being roundedly hated.
It's fine to ask a few searching questions while giving support to a club but you don't you just trash everything Liverpool do.
I know nothing about football management or how to deal with the press and neither do you, for all you know the press probably love a bit of Dalglish banter, it's not the norm and something they can print so they are happy chaps.
I hate managers that always pretend all is going well when the team has not performed that great and he doesn't.
What experience do you have in management ? it's all very well to sit on a sofa watching football and shouting advice at the best athletes in the world but to put them on a website is silly.
You are popular for all the wrong reasons. Get a hobby and a new team to support because you support Liverpool like Labour support the conservatives lol
And you don't think that Liverpool contributed to that negative press with the T-Shirt incident and their overly emotive, antagonistic statement? It's was all the Press's fault.
ReplyDeleteThe Leveson inquiry has nothing to do with what we're talking about; that is related to criminal acts, and serious invasion of privacy, neither of which have any bearing on Dalglish's press conferences (!), or the questions asked by Journos.
If someone asked me the same question the day before and I had to repeat myself again, then I would have asked the person in return if he was a retard. Kenny was trying to be nice, but he was agitated. Give him a break.
ReplyDeleteIf I'd been Harry Redknapp, I would have tried to tell the truth during this transfer window!
ReplyDeleteSeems to me as if there is some truth in the Carroll-Tevez story and LFC are just unhappy that it has come out. Same nonsense that Ferguson tries to do, silence people. It's not up to Ferguson, Dalglish or anyone else to tell people what is or is not a stupid question and what clinches it for me is that I cannot believe that I think Ferguson is behaving better than our manager at the moment. Says it all.
Agreed, Gab - I'm sure there was an element of truth to the story, which explains Dalglish reacted so angrily.
ReplyDeleteI agree that he handled the Suarez situation badly, but the sniping came before this. I'm talking about the press constantly doubting him and labelling as a purely nostalgic appointment. Anyway who care about the press? Are they not the ones who lied at Hillsborough, are they not the ones who rumour monger, tell lies with no real comeuppance. I for one do not feel sorry for the members of the press. Plus no response to my first point? Kenny is not succumbing to the circus that transfer gossip, which you also feed on, that's what this article is about, your just annoyed that you could not feed the gossip frenzy. It's OK to admit that. You're a football writer you need gossip and rumour to help make articles interesting. Just don't try to hide this.
ReplyDeleteThe T Shirt incident was the squads way of saying "We know Suarez isn't a Racist, this is a multi cultural dressing room and we support him 100%". It was the press who turned it into "LFC are supporting racism".
ReplyDeleteThe Leveson enquiry is exactly as you say it is, but when you hear about what so called professional journalists have done just to sell a newspaper it is sickening.
The city of Liverpool and LFC have had lots of undeserving negative press over the years, so I fully understand Kenny's feelings towards the press.
We can come back to it, if you like?
ReplyDeleteSorry, but you're wrong. I don't post gossip or rumour; I only post transfer stories when there is a quote from a player/manager/owner/director etc to back it up. Don't say things that just aren't true. I go to the source of everything before I post an article, and a lot of what I post is based around things people say, which is fact, not gossip.
ReplyDeletePost a link to an article that contains gossip or sourceless/quoteless rumour.
I am not annoyed in the slightest - if you look back through the archives, this is the sixth or seventh time I've raised this issue, and I do so because I believe that being needlessly combative in the press is counter productive. I always come from the standpoint of club first, players and manager second; if people understood that, they might appreciate where I'm coming from more often.
Nowadays, the club is subjugated in favour of fans and managers, who are put on pedestals and worshipped.
What's insulting? Kenny Dalglish paying an obscene £35 million for a donkey. What's even more insulting? The King not admitting that he made a mistake buying a donkey.
ReplyDeleteSo on the article where you wrote that you had persuasive proof that Kenny was signing someone is moot? On that article you said that you were sure Kenny was signing someone behind the scenes despite him saying he wasn't signing anyway. And on that same article you wrote about Defoe going to Liverpool despite there being no quotes from a LFC player/manager/owner/director.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.liverpool-kop.com/2012/01/revealed-proof-that-kenny-dalglish-is.html I'm not a blinded fan, but I like to give a manager time and patience if they have proven to be a good servant of the club or have the club at their heart. Obviously patience is not unlimited, but I on most occasions back Dalglish against internet warriors (Not yourself, I mean the fans who come up with ludicrous transfer targets and think we have a god given right for 4th place and think they are the greatest managers because their Football Manager team is killing it).
P.s. I think Kenny was cringeworthy over the Evra/Suarez debacle. I don't think he's out of touch in terms of tactics and team dynamics, but maybe in terms of media savvy and PR. So, in that point I agree, he may need some polishing as our reputation is at an all time low. I don't care how he talks to journos, but he does need to take more care in statements in regards to wider issues such as the Suarez case.
...and yes he is God, the "banana" goal against Chelsea proved that!
ReplyDeleteSo on the article where you wrote that you had persuasive proof that Kenny was signing someone is moot? On that article you said that you were sure Kenny was signing someone behind the scenes despite him saying he wasn't signing anyway. And on that same article you wrote about Defoe going to Liverpool despite there being no quotes from a LFC player/manager/owner/director.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.liverpool-kop.com/2012/01/revealed-proof-that-kenny-dalglish-is.html
I don't mind you doing this, but it's clear that like most writers you didn't get the scoop you wanted, nothing wrong in that.I'm not a blinded fan, but I like to give a manager time and patience if they have proven to be a good servant of the club or have the club at their heart. Obviously patience is not unlimited, but I on most occasions back Dalglish against internet warriors (Not yourself, I mean the fans who come up with ludicrous transfer targets and think we have a god given right for 4th place and think they are the greatest managers because their Football Manager team is killing it).
P.s. I think Kenny was cringeworthy over the Evra/Suarez debacle. I don't think he's out of touch in terms of tactics and team dynamics, but maybe in terms of media savvy and PR. So, in that point I agree, he may need some polishing as our reputation is at an all time low. I don't care how he talks to journos, but he does need to take more care in statements in regards to wider issues such as the Suarez case.
Good KK up sets the press! You only have to listen to Sunday Supplement on Sky they actually believe the lies they write to sell papers!
ReplyDeleteyour just damn right rude sometimes, who dare question in favour of kenny. no offence your getting a jumped up joke.
ReplyDeleteyour website in someways represents liverpool football club, show some respect to the people who support it and dont support your beliefs.
your only polite to brown noses and people that agree with you its getting IRRITATING.
no dought you will ban me or come back with some big words to try belittle me.
how old are you??
he does not mention, another interview about kenny saying some press cant be trusted. wats the likely hood of not being able to trust the press eh???
ReplyDeletephone tapping and ruining people??
i wonder wat this bloke actually likes about liverpool fc??
Jamie K you are writing absolute dross every manager is antagonistic towards the press. I like how kenny conducts his conferences he's sharp tongued and gives me a few laughs. Why write about this when you can write about the week we just had..... Very negative won't be back
ReplyDeletewhy not try something possitive for a change...........3 good results on the trott!!!!
ReplyDeletewoooooooooo hoooooooooooo
i like some of your stuff and how you stood by liverpools case with suarez with great detail.
but maybe you got to take a bit of critisism yourself sometimes and realise your not always right. irritating eh
so the man city manager said there was no truth in the story, so obviously because the press printed it, mancicni and kenny must be liars.
ReplyDeletebecause the press don't lie..................
try something good to say for a change, were on the up............hopefully. the press dont deserve respect (most)
ReplyDeletejk you are out numbered, you are probably losing good fans due to your beligerence!!
ReplyDeletehow you see kenny is how we see you!!! lol
now say sorry and lets move
wat about fergie not even talking to the press full stop???
ReplyDeletewho cared??? kenny is dealing with c#unts of a different nature. are you press ??
put your hands up..........earn some respect...............your wrong jaimie!!!
ReplyDeleteplease read all my comments and see the light.......and for gods sake dont ban me........again xxx
why is there pleasent interviews in liverpool echo??
ReplyDeletethe journo respects liverpool fc......simple.
you just dont get it
I really feel as a proper kopite, that this article is total bollocks ! Jamie as a red you shouldn't be writing this type of tosh. You really are being far to anal. This is a non story, other than trying to mug off our manager.
ReplyDeleteJaimie- do you know anything about Duncan Castle's article on Liverpool and Kenny Dalglish and how the hierarchy at LFC are not too happy with him? it was in the times at the weekend.
ReplyDeleteThought you may shed some light on it please.
I have my opinion, you have yours. Deal with it.
ReplyDeleteSent from iPhone
In the final of League Cup, good chance of semi's in FA cup, great chance of 4th, Carroll's starting to show his confidence, Suarez is back, Bellers is on fire, Kuyts getting amonst the goals, Enrique is a monster...but Jamie, you have to go and write another negative piece, this time about the manager made a massive contribution to all the above. FFS mate, chin up! Its okay :)
ReplyDeletemore press rumours??? must be true
ReplyDeleteGod, what is it with people?! Just because we're doing okay at the moment it means there's a moratorium on critical analysis?! Some people are so terrified of different opinions that they try so hard to discredit and censor them.
ReplyDeleteThat's exactly what this is: a subtle attempt at censorship. You and others can't just accept that I have my own view; you feel some ridiculous compulsion to attack and try to convince others that it's negative.
Why don't you go and live in China, where the media is manipulated to present a unified view. You and these other blind faith zealots would fit right in.
I'm going today this once more: you are entitled to your view, and I am entitled to mine. If you or anyone else can't handle views that don't conform to your expectations then that is clearly your problem, not mine.
Sent from iPhone
i dont agree with you on this matter, its you thats sounds bothered and needs to deal with it. dont you agree with any of my comments? alot of people not agreeing with you.
ReplyDeleteYou just don't get it, do you? What has people disagreeing with me got to do with anything?! Am I suddenly supposed to turn around say 'Ah, people disagree with me so I'll change my opinion'?! Why does it bother you so much that my view doesn't match yours? get over it already! I couldn't care less if 10 million people disagreed with me; I have my view, and that's what I believe, and if you can't hack that, tough luck.
ReplyDeleteNowhere have I argued that I am absolutely right, or that other people are wrong. That's the difference - I will argue my point but I have no problem with other people disagreeing. I don't go around (like you) trying to force others to change their view.
As I said, get over it.
I kind of like it, reminds me of Shankley "Just go out there and tell them I disagree with everything they say" lol
ReplyDeletejaimie you are wrong about this subject and about me trying to make you change your opinion. your obviousy a stubborn man. fair play for having an opinion you believe in i cant knock you for that. how can so many people be wrong? its your party, we dont write the headlines you do.
ReplyDeleteyour a clever lad, you certainly get the attention from wat you headline.
wat i do question though is there anything good you do have to say currently about liverpool fc ie players,manager, how its being run, ie players we should of bought etc.
personally im happy, im 33 supported them all my life, its been more downs than ups, so im gratefull for wat were doing in current times, and wat could of been if hicks and gillet had there way, we looked propper doomed not to long ago. my point is i dont understand wat i feel is constant negativity and lack of patience from sometimes yourself thats all, its not personal, you have a great site.
Jamie man, you need get a life man...
ReplyDeleteIf you have nothing to add to the debate then don't bother commenting at all. Any further pointless comments like this and I will ban you from the site.
ReplyDeleteGet a Job or a hobby mate, train sets or something, I think you need to get your end away, who gives a fuck?
ReplyDeletePeople why even try to reason with this pointless nonsense, by an internet goon who's probably never been within 5 miles of anfield?
Ok, my opinion is, it's not even worthy of debate infact it's ridiculous that someone would read that much into it. On the eve a great performance and goal from Carroll this is pulled out and a negitive spin put on it? why do you consistanly find negitives? I often see head linse that sound intresting and read your articals and think why do you spend your time doing this.
ReplyDeleteInteresting that Brian Marwood seems to have been the person that was approached, though, maybe Mancini did not know much about it. Or maybe he is denying it because it did not come off, who knows? Of course the press lies, but so do managers and players. Or, in the case of managers and players, they just don't tell the whole story.
ReplyDeleteIt's scary how many of our supporters refuse to accept that some of our players and our manager can do anything wrong.
ReplyDeleteJamie, Kenny plays the press very well, he keeps his cards close to his chest just like the old days, why try and rubbish this. He can't do right for wrong, you a secret manure fan??????
ReplyDelete32 comments Jamie, you sad b*stard!
ReplyDeleteYou cannot be a Liverpool fan. Every time i look at your views on Liverpool its always a negative. This website is poor just like the articles. You may be popular online, but that is only because you write so much nonsense people will reply to put you straight.
ReplyDeleteAre you a reporter? Are you a football manager? No i didn't think so! The press are so negative and will make a story out of anything. So why is it a bad thing that once in a while they get told straight and how it is. Thats Kenny for you and if you don't like it then write to Manchester you may get good positive feedback your after.
Kenny has defended Liverpool through thick and thin write about that. Or even write about Liverpool getting to the Carling Cup Final. Or Pepe Reina being joint top for clean sheets this year. Or Kuyt hitting 50 goals or Suarez returning........sorry just realized that's all positive news.
Boring!
you have issues with kenny. worrying.manc?
ReplyDeleteJaime, why do you always have to make a mountain out of a mouse?
ReplyDeleteKenny simply has LFC and its fans interest at heart. The only relationship he cares about is the relationship between the club and the fans. He doesn't care if it portrays him as antagonistic. That's why we love him.If Kenny comes out and says 'no deals will happen' and from then on the media tries to feed the fans transfer stories lies because it's Transfer Deadline Day™ then yes, it's insulting.It's insulting to the fans' intelligence and it's insulting to Kenny because it's as if the media is telling the fans not to trust his word.Get it now?
you block anyone that says anything against you...
ReplyDeleteI totally agree, so many instances since Kenny returned he's seemed to word his responses to the press with unnecessary and undue hostility. Kind of like you see politicians responding to opposition. For some absent reason.
ReplyDeleteDon't think this is negative view, you gave an example, I've thought this on other occasions too this season and probably last so im sure there are others.
Read the comment policy: I'm not interested in idiots hurling insults; this site is for civil, intelligent debate, and anyone who can't/won't do that is not welcome in the comments section. It's simple: debate in the right manner and there's no problem. Start bitching, moaning, hurling insults or sniping, your comments will be deleted. Like it or lump it.
ReplyDeleteJamie it seems like you keep going on about you having your own opinion, but when someone else has a different opinion to ridicule them. Don't be a hypocrite. As a neutral it seems that you are just anti-liverpool no matter what.
ReplyDeleteThe point i was trying to make, was this. After years of Liverpool being dragged through the gutter, this season no different, a lot of fans are starting to feel like we've turned a corner. I'm merely pointing out, there's a lot of positives as fans we should focus on. I'll accept there's times to be negative, but this feels like a time to unite and get behind the club. The article subject seems a very small nit-pick, when there's a lot of good happening. As fellow fans, we've had years of reading, writing negative articles/comments against the club, players, manager, which is understandable. However this week has been one of the best for LFC fans for years and personally, as fans, I think its nice to take a hiatus from all the negativity and sit back reflect on this weeks successes, Instead, this articles reads like a weak jibe at Kenny's frustration at dealing with the same old repetitive questions from the gutter press.
ReplyDeleteI am not naive enough to think Dalglish is untouchable and I worry that a lot of fans do as well, but for me, he's not doing a good this season and we're getting better all the time.I fully accept you have your own views and I embrace that. What surprises me is you write these articles and provide a section for comments. However, when people disagree, your reaction never feels like 'a fellow LFC fan having banter down the pub'...it feels quite inciting, arrogant and provocative. Rather hypercritically, you then come back to me with "your entitled to your view speech and entitled to mine", reading some of your comments back suggests you think otherwise.
Simple solution: stick to reading sites that post views that match your expectations; avoid sites like this that prefer realism. Problem solved.
ReplyDeleteGo fuck a Duck Jamie Kanwar. Turning On The manager is all you ever do you utter prick!!
ReplyDeleteAnd we Will keep highlighting Jamie Kanwars. And that is Many But which team does this guy really support. Maybe should name a manager hé Could support - oh No..
ReplyDeleteKenny hasn't always been this way but he gets like this when it seems Liverpool have the world against us.. and that's the way it feels lately so good on Kenny i reckon. People love him from all generations he can get away with a bit of attitude
ReplyDeleteyou say this but you are forcing your opinions upon others. You are also being antagonistic with your beliefs, we only see a snippet of the interviews and press conferences there is a lot of dialect between the press and the managers behind the cameras. KD is just defending his beliefs as you are here ergo you are a hypocrite.
ReplyDeleteI do not think anyone found it rude or antagonistic apart from you. If I didn't know better I'd think it was you who was asking KD the post match questions. You really know how to take thinks personally, well done have a round of applause. Your rude and antagonistic manner towards fellow LFC fans is far worse. You have now lost all the respect I had for you.
ReplyDeleteWhoa JK now you are being abusive to fellow fans.
ReplyDeleteJaimie if you were the manager and you get constantly asked about your player's performance, what would you have done to protect and motivate your player further?
ReplyDeleteI like KK and how he handles the ship right now because it does seem to me that he is forging solidarity within the ranks of liverpool and a football club is only strong when the players within truly feel like they do belong to a family.
No one slammed you for the article that you have posted above, i certainly did not slam you for saying out your piece of mind, so it kinda surprised me that you have to question what I feel in the response to my original comment.
Once again Jaimie, I am in no way part of KK brigade, but bearing in mind the success that KK has brought liverpool both as a player and in his first stint as manager, and how he resigned right after the disaster, and the subsequent decline of this football club under other managers (barring the European cup win under Rafa and perhaps the treble under Houllier), I am happy to have KK right now and if possible would like to see him achieve stg in his 2nd managerial stint at liverpool.
ps: if KK was nasty to the journalists, then what will you make out of the incident that involved Sir Alex Ferguson blasting off KK's daughter in a post match interview? Should SAF also treat KK's daughter more 'prefessionally'? I say yes, but simply because he did not, doesnt mean that he loses the support of Man U fans all over the world.
Kenny I totally sympathize with you ... it really hurts when you say something and people don't believe you .. they call you a lia .... oh wait !!!
ReplyDeleteI think KK has done brilliantly with all the bullshit surrounding the suarez incident. In no way am i being a racist but if you have been following football for a number of years, then you jolly well know the controversies surrounding mr Evra from his antagonistic on pitch antics, theaterics, right up to masterminding the last WC french football team mutiny.
ReplyDeleteEvra is a dishonourable player and in the heat of the Pool / Man U clash, I believe he was again trying to stg funky with Suarez and it was really unfortunate that Suarez responded in a racist manner.
again Jaimie if you were the manager who has to handle the suarez evra incident, how would you have handled it?
handle it poorly, and you have a disgruntled star player who will definitely cause division within the team. He probably will not be happy playing for liverpool as the club is unable to defend him in the course of duty.
you may think the the club is bigger than just 1 player, but KK definitely gets my respect in the way he handled the matter because more importantly he preserved the liverpool spirit and further reinforced solidarity within the team.
This is purely my opinion and again you may or may not disagree with me, but i'm proud being a liverpool fan and there is no other team that comes close to me in my heart.
YNWA folks.
Are we not buying or no one wants to come to Liverpool?
ReplyDeleteIt's hardly combative, he's just telling it how it is. Kenny has been absolutely clear that they had no intention of doing anything during January and he was 100% true to that. But no matter how many times he said it he still had to field questions to the contrary. I believe you'll find in the past 30 days or more that he indeed did answer that very question politely and quietly. I'd say he answered it about 100 times during the month. This is likely time number 101 and in that regard I think it makes sense that he starts to draw a line and get pissy about it.
ReplyDeleteWhat happened here was that Kenny said something, very clearly and very honestly, and the press didn't believe him. You yourself didn't believe him. You thought it was some kind of ruse or cover-up. It wasn't. Perhaps you still believe otherwise, but there is not the slightest bit of evidence that Liverpool tried to do anything. So how many times does a man have to tell you something, tell you the truth in a plain and simple way, and continue to have to answer the same stupid question?
Your opinion, my opinion, others opinion. So what Jaimie K. It doesn't matter. Its all peoples way to answer the question. If you don't like it, keep it to yourselves. Always go to the positive thinking, not negative. Negative ain't bring resolution.
ReplyDeleteyou really havent got a clue most of what he says is tongue in cheek completely wrong about liverpool press these are the ones he trusts have u seen him with vinny oconnor its like a comedy they bounce off each other and u no y its because vinny is a blue and he works for sky we in liverpool love his press conferences and we are the fans and in his eyes we are the ones that matter not the gutter press
ReplyDeleteI've decided after reading several of your articles now and remembering the sun advert you had on here that you are an idiot.
ReplyDeleteWhy did you block me under my original email. Didn't like my sun comments.?Hmmm me thinks you are all well when criticising but not so well when your idiocy is pointed out. Looking forward to you blocking this mail you silly boy
ReplyDeleteHang on Liverpool having a great week, reaching Carling Cup Final, Knocking Utd out of the FA Cup , winning 3-0 away from home, Andy Carroll and Kuyt finding thier scoring boots, Suarez about to return from his ban. Do you think that the press might have asked about the good performance, or the great week Liverpool are having? No they want to ask something they asked the day before and were given an answer to. Think this might annoy me a little as well.
ReplyDeleteAlso most comments Kenny makes to the press as mentioned by Slumdog are said tongue in cheek and are said as a bit of fun, some of the press take this the wrong way.
Jamie it is also Intresting how you are focusing on this 'non matter' and managing to find a negative in the last week of LFC news and events that have been really postive .
What a waste of Internet space this subject has created. I would suggest that Jaimie K needs to get a life. I was also amused at the comment by the Guy who suggested that SAF receives respect for his honesty. Surely that statement is something of an oxymoron.
ReplyDeleteDoesn't like Kenny. Doesn't like Rafa. Doesn't like Suarez (thinks he's a liability). I'd be interested to know what it is in fact you do like about LFC. Is there anything?
ReplyDeleteI imagine if you'd have had your little site up and running in the 60's-80's you'd have been equally unimpressed by Shankley & Paisley.
There's quite enough anti LFC opinions in the media as it is. Do you really need one of our own (if in fact you are) constantly sniping too?
Or sure, yeah, I suppose you could just ignore it the minute I put you in a corner. That's a possibility too I guess.
ReplyDeleteIMO it's just KK getting irritated at the same old prodding questions. From what I see he's a man that means what he says, unlike some managers who just say these things to deflect the media to get them off the clubs back so that they can conduct their biz privately and out of the limelight. In anycase, Wembley here we come, bring on Brighton and more Prem league wins would all but guarantee Europe next season. All in all, not bad for KK's 1st full season!!
ReplyDeleteCalm down dear.
ReplyDeleteGet over yourself! I don't have to argue every single post; you're entitled to your view and I'm respecting that. I don't have time to respond to every single post.
ReplyDeleteIf you don't like it, I suggest you visit a different site where the opinions match your expectations.
ReplyDeleteWake up. People hate us Jaimie. And I think we should be OK with that - every club seems to have fans who hate the other clubs. It's just the way it is.
ReplyDeleteI would find that an interesting article actually - how tribal hatred in football has become even more intense since the advent of blogs and 24/7 media exposure.
This might come as a shock to you, but people HATED Liverpool long before the Suarez-Evra incident or anything that Kenny Dalglish said about it, and I fully expect people to hate us if we somehow manage to start playing football like Barcelona whilst giving every black child in the world a kiss on the head.
It's what you think of your OWN club that matters. If you don't like it anymore, then either accept it and move on, or give it up. You can't change the way other people are going to perceive us. Because people are essentially stupid.
What are your qualifications to write column inches of things that you always think are correct? How did you expect KK to behave when lots of people thought Suarez was stitched up by both the FA and Evra. Incidentally, I loved it when Evra messed up for the winning goal. He will mess up again when Suarez turns him inside out at Old Trafford.
ReplyDeleteYou can keep going with your defeatist 'let's just give up because everyone hates us' attitude; I'll keep arguing in favour of the Liverpool that I want to see.
ReplyDeleteI am not going to waste my time arguing a toss with Dalglish as you have made your mind up with his approach and admit you like to be in a minority. You keep banging on about him being partly responsible for sheding negative publicity on the club lately, but whether you like it or not He will always be King Kenny to the majority of LFC fans for what he achieved as a player, Manager and the way he conducted himself following the aftermath of Hillsborough!!!!!!! Keep reading your headlines LEGEND says this and that!!! The word legend does not apply to half of the players to assign it to but do you know what , DALGLISH IS and ALWAYS WILL be in OUR eyes. And yes he is not perfect and has made mistakes since returning to the club on and off the pitch but tell me a Manager who has not or will not in future!???
ReplyDeleteDalglish does not deserve extra protection form LFC Fans for what he has done for the club, listen to him, he came back to help the club he loves, was successful in the short term so offered a job, not as if it was offered to him out of Loyalty or for who he is, we were excellent back end of last season. As you always say JK, we cut him too much slack but you need take a look at bigger picture and realise the sorry state we were in last December 2010 and actually what he has achieved since coming back and cut the gut some fucking slack.
Nice to hear some positive reporting form what has been a good week for LFC. Charlie Adam, 2 assists Vs Wolves for your stats , even a bloody andy Carroll goal to savour!!! God I would LOVE IT if I can gloat on here in 2 months time and all the new signings have progressed!!!!!
Yes, just ignore everything else that was posted on the site yesterday, which included positive articles about Dirk Kuyt; Liverpool's new signing, and Jose Enrique.
ReplyDeleteThe narrow-mindedness of fans is truly amazing. I look at all things, and I don't just stop taking a critical approach just because we won a few games.
Another person with tunnel vision. You are aware that there are 4-5 articles posted a day, right? Ad yesterday, there were positive articles about Dirk Kuyt and Jose Enrique? Why don't you try being fair for once instead of losing that ability as a result of your extreme pro-Liverpool bias?
ReplyDeleteYes, let's censorship and blind faith is always the way forward. Always present a positive, unified front, and attack anyone who has the temerity to have their own individual view. Go and live in China, you'd fit in well there.
ReplyDeleteDid you get the flowers?
ReplyDeleteCool, let's see who dies happier, eh?
ReplyDeleteAh now. No need to get sarcastic. Keep it light.
ReplyDeleteWell, I'm perfectly happy with life, thanks :-)
ReplyDeleteThe problem is a simple one , KK does not trust or respect the press. Journalism in this country is now opinion and gossip and lies.
ReplyDeleteDid you see the Mails RACIST back page to Suarez.
No paper ran the story evra was coached through videos as they like to keep momentium on a story. No paper has ran a story about probability now being used for punishment. Balloteli had a 4 match game because in probability hd kick out . No one is writing that evidence is no longer needed.
So why trust the press who only want to sell papers and will continue to knock our club at every opportunity. Or have your article read .
ReplyDeleteThey and you could write about if we win the carling cup KK has won 4 titles . Fa cups league cups and a Scottish cup in 10 years management.
Who else has won z cup in Thier first full year ?
Obviously.
ReplyDeleteSometimes 'Sorry' is the hardest word to say...
ReplyDeleteMr Kanwar, It is the example you requested.
ReplyDeleteand he only responded in the end because of the fans uproar.
Feeling for the club and it fans: Hodgson has none, KK and Rafa have it in bucketloads.
Jaimie,
ReplyDeleteIf I asked you to justify why you have such a downer on Andy Carroll over and over again, in the end you would get fed up (and no doubt ban me from your site).
It is human nature to get fed up in such a situation; and in a way you would be right to ban me because if I choose not to listen to previous answers, and not add anything new to a discussion I would be wasting everyones time!
Jaimie, So could we paraphrase this post as
ReplyDelete'I based my opinion on heresay and rumour. I was totally wrong.'
Please don't presume to know how I would respond in a given situation. I don't ban people for asking questions; people are banned for one reason alone: repeatedly hurling insults and derogatory comments.
ReplyDeletePeople *do* challenge me with the same questions over and over, and I don't get fed up; I just answer the question. banning someone for asking the same question over and over would be ridiculous, in the same way that Dalglish's repeated rudeness to the press is ridiculous.
So what? That doesn't give the fans the right to then attack him personally at every available opportunity. It's a comparatively minor issue, and fans jumped all over it as an excuse to attack Hodgson.
ReplyDeleteBut Jaimie you have deleted my perfectly reasonable comment later in relation to your paraphrasing, and reading far too much into things.
ReplyDeleteSo if you are wrong and there is evidence of it, and somebody points it out, you simply delete the post rather than just accepting you were wrong and made a mistake.
Jaimie, You have censored (deleted) my 2 previous very reasonable posts, because they ask questions you cannot answer.
ReplyDeleteCan I suggest that if you vilify censorship in your posts, you should at least be consistent in relation to censoring posts on your website.
Or is it one rule for you, and a different rule for everyone else.
You wouldn't be evading a prefectly reasonable explanation and answering only flawed arguements, would you Jaimie?
ReplyDeleteNo. You are sniping, and I don't have the time or the inclination to respond to such pointless posts. Read the comment policy: you are repeatedly posting just to cause trouble. Get back to posting about football, or don't post at all. If you have a problem with me or my approach, use the contact form and we'll discuss it.
ReplyDeleteWhat a twat you are, Jaimie. Picking only arguements you feel you have a chance of "winning". This website isn't for the fans, it's for massaging your broken ego. What a low life loser.
ReplyDeletecalm down darling, you ask for trouble sometimes with your aggresiveness and how you talk down to some people
ReplyDeleteyou might find jaimie writing on the man utd section lol. just kidding, honestly im jokin !!! have a sense of humour. but please cheer us up with a happy headline for a change. il make you a deal, if we beat spurs and deserve to, will you please do a happy headline maybe even praising kenny
ReplyDeletewell said nice post, and i think you talk on behalf of 99.9% of true liverpool SUPPORTERS. i see the big picture, and im gratefull we didnt go bust or get sold to some cowboys, or the last cowboys stayed in charge. kenny bought belief back to the club, players and fans. if you love the club you understand. its that simple.
ReplyDeletekettle black jaimie, its an insult to tell someone they have tunnel vision when hes not slagging you off??
i read liverppol fc news now and your headlines stand out and we all dont get to see them as believe it or not some of us work full time! this debate is how old? still being talked about today, because of wat youve wrongly said. no offense.
top man alan... well said.. ol bacon face is a pri#k, but a v good gaffa.. kenny wants the press to respect the liverpool way.. ie, if we have something to say, we will tell you, we (try) not to talk about other peoples players, we (try) not to disrespect other teams, players and managers, and try and uphold dignity in defeat and victory, we consentrate on ourselves asa tem and a fan base and no one else.. kenny may be sharp and prickly in press conferences, but he is trying to instill the liverpool way back into the day to day running of he club, and bit by bit its working.. i agree jaime that sometime its a bit much, but come on, its funny!! we all see it and respect him for it, cos it aint the press that he cares about, its the club and the fans.
ReplyDeleteKenny has joined NATO, No Action Talk Only. After identifying more than a dozen targets for 2 months, nothing happens! What a waste of time! Thisx is a Puki Mak team which gloats on past glories.
ReplyDeleteSorry, can't stand all this 'if you are not with us, you are against us' bs that some of our supporters are spouting now. It's mob mentality. Someone has even said, on here, 'how can so many people be wrong?' with, apparently, no clue that there is a larger world out there and if you took his argument into the wider world he would be in the minority himself. And the majority are often wrong, anyone who has read a history book will know that.
ReplyDeleteI work in media management. The media is a bunch of negative, divisive, distortive, trouble-making bastards who'll twist or exajurate anything to create conflict, controversy, and therefore a story. I reckon that's why Kenny is combative and evasive at times, and rightly so. Remember, this is the man who saw how The Sun handled Hillsborough, up close. And yes... Kenny IS beyond reproach. Anyone who loves LFC, is an iconic part of its history, and wants only the best for it, is beyond reproach.
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