14 Feb 2012

Ex-Liverpool star accuses 'deluded' Manager of living in a 'bubble'...

Former Liverpool striker Stan Collymore has launched a scathing attacking on Arsenal manager Arsene Wenger, accusing the Frenchman of trying to cover up the extent of Arsenal's 'downward spiral' in the Premier League.

Arsenal have just come out of a poor run of league form, and Collymore poured scored on Wenger's recent contention that Arsenal "went through worse spells when we were winning championships".

Speaking to The People, Collymore scathed:

"[Wenger] is a deluded boss living in a bubble that is about to burst.

"It is time to face the fact that Arsenal are on a downward slide...and they're scrambling to even make the top four.

"I'm staggered by the manner in which Wenger is trying to cover up the truth about his ailing side. Nobody is falling for it and he needs to realise that quickly."


Collymore clearly jumped the gun a bit here; Arsenal are back to winning ways now, with 9 goals in the last two league games, and unluckily for Liverpool, they're now sitting pretty in 4th place, above Chelsea, a team *is* on a downward slide.

Can Liverpool catch Arsenal now? Given their inconsistent form it's definitely a possibility. What's frustrating though is that Liverpool have been ahead of Arsenal on several occasions this season, and every time, the club has wasted the advantage.

Jaimie Kanwar


35 comments:

  1. Sometimes it applies to Kenny as well. 
    Better to accept criticism than turning a blind eye on the issues.

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  2. Liverpool won't make the top 4. No chance. Arsenal/Chelsea/Newcastle. Liverpool's squad is very average. Berbatov has 7 goals in 10 matches. Suarez has 5 in 20 this season. Its not enough. Unless someone starts banging them in, you guys have no chance. Plus suarez is not *AS* good as you make him out to be. Definitely not worth 20 goals a season. And who else do you have then ??

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  3. wow... and liverpool will win the league this season?... Ssshhh collibitch

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  4. Im an arsenal fan and although I am not a fan of Collymore what he is saying is true. I think Liverpool have more strength in the depth of their squad. If they dont make the CL thius season its definately on for next season.

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  5. Stan Collymore should stick to the roadside doing his dogging thing, not sniping about a quality manager. Very sad.

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  6. Wow, out of the blue, is this guy for real.  Worry about your old team, let the gunners be gunners

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  7. it is beyond belief that anyone pays for or listens to collymore's opinion - he was a talented player who threw it away because he wasnt mentally strong enough, he has well documented mental health issues, has by his own admission committed a series of sex offences  and everytime he opens his mouth he proves he is not very smart - a great role model and pundit

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  8. At the moment, Arsenal, Liverpool and Chelsea are going through the exact same crisis in terms of performances. Both Arsenal and ourselves have made considerable changes to key personnel. Arsenal is abit luckier in the attacking department as Arteta has proven a perfect fit in the gap left by Fabregas, there is no significant difference in their playing styles, and with Ramsey and Song in the side, there isn't all that much to re-adapt. For Chelsea, their squad is still trying to get to grips with how AVB wants them to play and while what he has come up with is potentially brilliant, it's not how Chelsea is accustomed to playing.

    Our match at Old Toilet showed exactly why Fergie persists with Giggs and Scholes and why he was so desperate for Scholes to come out of retirement. Players aren't the ones winning points, on the contrary, they lose points. Games are won by teams. The quality we possess enables us to get by not losing most matches, but our team is no longer the nearly perfected machine of 08-09. The signing of Adam was an attempt to get close to what we had, but that we hardly had both Gerrard and Lucas on the pitch together cost us big time. Our squad has never had any real stability since Alonso left. After Lucas had integrated himself reasonably but not even fully, Masch left. Aquilani, Meireles and Poulsen never got more than a season with us.

    If our memories serve us well enough, we will recall it took our trio of Gerrard, Mascherano and Alonso a few seasons to get their balance perfected. Gerrard and Alonso were seldom paired in the middle from 04-06. From 05-07, Alonso wasn't performing like he did in 04-05 and 08-09. Rafa had been with us since 04 and it was not until 08 that Rafa stopped getting slammed for being defensive. Man City had gone down an accelerated path, with the added luxury of having a deep squad. They too were defensive when Mancini first took charge, playing with 3 holding mids and certainly weren't scoring like they are today. It is only logical therefore to see we won't be genuinely effective till next season at the very earliest.

    With Arsenal however, as Tomb has pointed out, they are perhaps more than a step behind in that when next season comes around, we will have a better adjusted squad than them. If Chelsea hold onto their core next season, they'll be in the mix with us. However, if AVB decides to make further major changes at the bridge, we should be contending for 3rd or 4th next season.

    I'm not too optiistic about catching Arsenal this season TBH, but I have faith in our current squad, as it is, to be quite a team by the middle of next season.

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  9. If Liverpool fail to make the top 4 this season, why would they next? This season is/was their best chance, with Arsenal and Chelsea both inconsistent, Newcastle lacking squad depth, and Liverpool having invested heavily in their team. It's not as if they've signed South American players that are still bedding into the team, they overpaid for British players with Premier League experience.

    I agree to an extent with what Collymore is saying; Arsenal aren't the team they were and are 2 or 3 top players short of being a force again, but the real questions need to be asked of Chelsea and Liverpool. They should be expected to be above Arsenal given their poor start and losing Fabregas, and the significant difference in transfer funds spent on players to both Chelsea and Liverpool.

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  10. Collymore should stick to bashing up women, although I bet he doesn't have a lot to say to rugby players

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  11. Collymore criticising Wenger? I've seen it all now. To be honest, most ex LFC players make dreadful pundits and Collymore is as bad as any of them. What they don't seem to realise, either, is that to criticise Arsenal is to put into focus how dreadful our team has been this season. If we can't finish above Arsenal and Chelsea this season, we never will. All this fantasy bs that we will grow and Arsenal will not is ridiculous and
     there is no reason to believe that they and Chelsea will not progress from what is all time low seasons for them, in recent years. They've lost Nasri and Fabregas and we are trailing them in the league. Why buy British if we can't overtake Arsenal in a crisis?

    The other weekend sums it up for me, while they are bringing back Henry to complete fairy tale endings at Sunderland, where the Sunderland supporters are applauding the guy off the pitch, our motley bunch of failure signings are snarling their way through a toothless loss at Old Trafford where they are making headlines for all the wrong reasons. AVB and Wenger are under pressure, Dalglish should be also. If he is not, then this club has no ambition any more.

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  12. you have to be having a laugh? Newcastle????BWAAAAAAAHGAHAHAHAHAH

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  13. UM because half the team is new??? Common sense please.

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  14. Do you have anything useful to say ?? I hate this kind of arguing. Baseless, directionless and petty. He was a premier league player. I bet he knows more than you. Id rather believe him than you. you're a piece of s***t

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  15. Um, and that's the same case at Arsenal!?

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  16. 1) Newcastle are ahead of Liverpool in the table 2) Newcastle have just as good a chance as Liverpool of making top 4 or even top 6, if not better. 3) They have a striker that scores goals this season, goals wins you games....we don't have anyone in our team scoring goals as consistently as Ba. 

    Just because we have a rich ancient history, doesn't mean we are automatically better than others. If we aren't careful even Norwich could finish ahead of us. So calm down, calm down

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  17. Arsenal lost key players in the summer and got a key player in Wilshere out for the season basically. If one said before the season that Newcastle would be in the top 6 at this stage of the season, everyone would think he was crazy. Chelsea have gone backwards.

    So enough with the excuses of this being a so-called new team. We have a great defensive record, especially at home and most of those players in defence and in goal were here already. Lucas, a key player, was here already. Suarez, a key player last season, was here already. Unlike Arsenal and Chelsea, we haven't had the distraction of European football this season and that is our big advantage this season, still is as they are in the knockout stages. 

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  18. Arteta? Perfect replacement for Cesc? Have you seen the amount of assists and goals Cesc got in previous seasons at Arsenal? Thats not even taking into consideration, Cesc is a wonderful player. Arteta has been good but he isn't anywhere near as good as Cesc nor does he play in the same role for Arsenal as Cesc was used last season. Ramsey, this season, has been playing in Cesc's position tactically. He has looked averaged in that position. Arsenal have not replaced Cesc effectively and rely solely on RVP for goals. Cesc got 15 goals and 15 assists in the league in 09/10...Outstanding. Didn't get as many as goals the next season but still got plenty of assists. Arsenal have not replaced Fabregas effectively or maybe they needed Wilshere fit to see how good the team is without Cesc. 

    Considering we have no European football this season and the best defence record, we should be doing better.

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  19. The FA will not do anything about the fracas in the tunnel at Old Trafford because they have found out that it was Evra spitting at Suarez but it missed and hit De gea! French people spit like that.

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  20. Any proof at all that Evra spat at Suarez?

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  21. Stan 'doggy' collymore has it against arsenal and specifically AW. he never misses a chance to bash the club or its manager. It's very possible the dogman god rejection as a player to join the club and will never forgive. for how else can one explain the fact that even though his own former club liverpool fc (worse Aston Villa) has always struggled to qualify for CL (past few years) all he sees is arsenal strggling instead? doggy is said to be an anti-racism campainer. in a week in which race issues have reared thei augly head in his club liverpool, all he can see is problems at arsenal? never mind he himself is languishing from a racist tweet! surely if doggy were an objective observer, he would of seen that whereas - starting from the banitez rule, liverpool have been 'shipping out black' players from their team, arsenal has remained a trully multi cultural mix? Maybe its fair to ask the anti-racism campainer 'doggy' whether he can see the purging of black players at LFC since the days of Rafa, and so whether he he's got any compliments to pay to Wenger for being their best recruiter in the league?

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  22. If collymore can give it he can take it violence sex in car parks why is the guy on telly why do people take him serious

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  23. Among top teams Liverpool only have to play Arsenal and Chelsea at home and Newcastle away whereas Arsenal have to play Liverpool away, Spurs home, Newcastle home, Man City home, Chelsea home. Chelsea have to play Man City away, Spurs home, Newcastle home, Arsenal away, Liverpool away. The fixtures show that Liverpool have easier run compared to both Arsenal and Chelsea but now Liverpool needs to make it count and win their easier games.
    Liverpool eventhough are behind Arsenal and Chelsea by 4 points but they can very easily leapfrog them if they play at their best. Liverpool definitely have looked more solid in defence than Chelsea and Arsenal and if Kenny puts the best team out then Liverpool have a real big chance. Carling Cup win could be a great tonic for Liverpool in their hunt for a top 4.

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  24. Actually, I did say several weeks ago that I thought Norwich had a good chance of finishing above Liverpool. Now I"m almost certain they will do so. I really hate to say it but I would be disappointed if Kenny's term was extended beyond this season. Great player but Manager?

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  25. I think I would prefer Arsene as manager than Stan. Although he might have a point that Arsenal is not the force it once was I'm usually reluctant to take his views seriously.

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  26. Who cares about Arsenal! We have enough problems in our hands.

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  27. Got to say Norwich and Swansea play some good football, especially the latter.

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  28. The assumption of many people on this thread is that we are going to improve next season with the current squad and manager.

    If anyone seriously thinks that Downing can improve they need there heads examining.

    He has played like this since he was at Middlesborough plus he's meant to be at his Footballing peak.

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  29. Arsene is deluded and the bubble is about to burst....

    spent less than what is generated.

    ..new stadium..

    .good young British talent coming.g through

    still in top four....


    And kk is the best stan ? why not have your thought on lfc

    we have

    players who can't score


    spent way too much on players who weren't worth it

    out of top four

    our top british players include Charlie Adam and jay spearing...

    I wish we were in a state like Arsenal and our bubble was about to burst

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  30. If you have a beef with Collymore take it  up with Collymore .Leave Liverpool Football Club out of it

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  31. Ah but Stanleys skin colour can buy a lot of forgiveness in the media

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  32. source? yeah thought so...

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  33. Almost certain that Norwich will finish above Liverpool? Really??

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