17 Jul 2015

Transfer Shocker: Euro Giants fly-in to sign 'incredible' €15m Liverpool star after one season at Anfield

Italian giants Roma are reportedly interested in signing Liverpool left-back Alberto Moreno, who cost the Reds £12m only a year ago.

According to an alleged exclusive from CalcioMercato:

* Roma boss Walter Sabatini is flying to England this week with dual goal of signing both Edin Dzeko and Alberto Moreno.

* Sabatini is planning a meeting with Liverpool to discuss the possibility of a transfer.

* Liverpool are willing to sell for €15m, but Roma believe that a deal can be struck for €12m.

Liverpool have recently been linked with several right backs (including PSG star Lucas Digne), which suggests a lack of confidence in Moreno's ability to be the club's long-term solution at left-back.

If true, that is totally understandable. One great goal aside, Moreno - who, according to ex-Red Neil Mello, has 'incredible energy' - did little to distinguish himself last season, and like Glen Johnson, the Spaniard is prone to costly errors that lead directly to opposition goals.

In my view, Liverpool should dump Moreno, for the following reasons:

* Premier League: 4 errors that led directly to opposition goals, including one on his debut against Manchester City, which helped condemn the Reds to a 3-1 defeat.

* Failed to record a single assist in 28 league games.

* Atrocious performance in the 6-1 defeat against Stoke, which prompted Rodgers to remove him at half-time.

Rodgers is already dropping hints that Moreno could be relegated to bench duty this season. After Liverpool's 2-1 victory over Brisbane Roar today, he told reporters:

"I’ve seen him [Gomez] at centre-half and at right-back, but I wanted to see him at left-back, and I thought he was outstanding. Seeing him play at left-back for the first time, he looked...a really good footballer".


It appears that Rodgers' plan may be to sign a new left back (Digne, perhaps) and utilise Gomez as a backup left-back, and if that transpires, it'll surely be curtains for Moreno's first-team chances.

Fellow Spaniard Javier Manquillo has already been jettisoned; perhaps Moreno is next in line.

The question is, will Liverpool make their money back?

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Author: Jaimie K



100 comments:

  1. Seriously this is totally made up, just because Gomez played well for 2 games now. Total BS

    Why should LFC even consider selling him on a huge loss after just one season? He made quite a few errors but it was his first season in a far more physical league. Moreno hasn't been disasterous at all, actually he's got a lot to offer once he's found his consistency.

    I'm not his biggest fan, but this Rumour is obviously not true.

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  2. Typo in there saying right back instead of left back

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  3. I think LFC should sell if we get a good price. I believe Moreno would have a better year this year. We now appear to have a better offense putting less pressure on Moreno to push forward to help. That being said, 15m is hard to turn down...even 12 would ok.

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  4. If we can do a swap deal for DOUMBIA and dump the Benteke deal then I'm happy. Or we could even offer £10m + Moreno for Nainigollan to solve our DM problem. He can even play at CM if needed if Rodgers goes for three pressing midfielders.

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  5. Nicolas Chamberlain11:06 pm, July 17, 2015

    It would be mad to sell him after just one season.
    We chased him for months last season.
    He made a few costly errors but he also showed some promising signs.
    He is still very young and probably needed a season to adjust to a new culture, language and style of football. I really hope we hold on to him.
    Sounds like bad business to me.

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  6. This has to be a joke. This would shock me and that doesn't happen much in footbal.

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  7. Nicolas Chamberlain11:10 pm, July 17, 2015

    Doumbia is pretty overrated.
    Not that Im convinced that signing Benteke is a good thing but he seems to be far superior to Doumbia.
    We should sell first before signing a CDM.

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  8. The Naingollan option sounds great, now that would be good business.

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  9. Absolute Rubbish..
    Why would any normal human look at right backs to replace a left back?
    And Digne never been a right back!!!
    LFC have got lots of dead wood to get rid of .. Moreno is more promising than any left back we have had on last 10 yrs

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  10. Robert Pires, Mesut Ozil, Louis Saha, Santi Cazorla....I could go on all night. All these players and dozens more beside have struggled badly in their first year here, and all were much older than Moreno who was still 20 when he signed. Some players take time to adapt, and at his age there will be year on year improvent in terms on consistency anyway. Moreno will be our left back for next 5 years minimum. Nothing story IMO

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  11. his not going anywhere i remember his first goal vs spurs loved him ever since

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  12. I don't believe this one for a second, no way would we sell our starting left back without having another player in first. Moreno is young, he's still got time to develop. Offer them Enrique instead.

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  13. To be fair, I do like gomez and prefer flannagan to moreno. Moreno is too prone to mistakes. Too many. As we saw over the years with glen johnson its a trait you cant get out of you. Moreno is extremely wasteful in possession and his crossing.

    Gomez is solid, thats what we need from defenders, forget attacking, 1st things first defensive responsibilities. With gomez being a natural centre back, hes naturally better defensively than moreno. Hes also got pace and is a big presence. By the looks of it despite being just 2 games, he has fitted in seemlessly and is confident.

    Clyne is rock solid. Proven. Your not beating him. I grew up with him and we played every week together in stockwell. Hes so fast its unbelievable. Hes a animal and fears nothing let me assure fans. We went to the same primary school allen edwards in stockwell, and then he was a striker. He was so good, but then all of sudden palace made him a right back because his knowledge of football could be used elsewhere. They took on nathaniel and my other Tauren Roberts who was a dazzling skillful winger like ronaldinho. There was high hopes for them both but tauren has since stopped playing football after being released and playing in various conference teams. Nathaniel clyne was fearless though and believed. Now he will wear the famous red. I remember him and tauren on the palace skill school. Tauren won the skill school and has retired age 24. Credit to nathaniel, who made the most tackles of all defenders in the PL last season.

    Gomez and clyne can be special lfc full backs for years to come

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  14. I would rather we pay them to take Enrique..

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  15. I know them both. Ibe went to my secondary school archbishop michael ramsey in camberwell. Clyne went to my primary school allen edwards, you can search it up if you want. I have no need to lie.

    Jordon left our school when he was in year 9 to join Globe academy school. This was a sport school which would also help develop jordon whilst he played for wycombe. He won the south london school youth cup and it was in that tournament when I explained he scored 4 goals against our school, his former school, scoring a free kick off his left foot. I know jordon, he has unbelievable talent and plays like Sanchez. He is a Nigerian and is strong and fast.

    Jordon and nathaniel are both south London boys. Gomez is too but I dont know him, hes from Catford. Jordon and nathaniel are both extremely blessed footballers. They will do lfc proud

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  16. I meant left back


    Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone

    -------- Original message --------

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  17. It's a bit harsh to judge him on one season, he made mistakes but he also had some good moments and a lot of players struggle when moving leagues and countries.


    I also believe that while his assist stats are low his chances created stats were very high, and he can't be blamed for poor finishing.


    For me we stick with Moreno and sort our system out.

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  18. Of course. I didn't doubt that

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  19. Could you get his autograph for me.thanks ;)

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  20. One season and sell??

    He is a quality player who needs to tighten up his defending.


    It would help him a great deal if Liverpool had a quick CDM to cover when he goes forward [which is a key part of the team style getting width from the FB's].


    Also if the CB pairing were more dominant and vocal - basically the Reds are missing a Carra type who gets in his FB's ears and makes sure the defensive shape is maintained when defending or reformed when a Reds attack breaks down.


    Moreno will be a top notch attacking LB in 3/4 years when no doubt Barca or Real will come calling.

    He stays, he grows and then we sell him for a massive profit in 3-5 years time.

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  21. Ya and I don't understand why moreno doesn't just use his hands to stop the ball coming in.such a waste just putting them behind his back like that!!

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  22. I have not spoke to them in years. last I spoke to jordon was wen he scored the 4 goals and nathaniel was when he was at palace living in stockwell.

    They ve gone clear and I wish them both the best

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  23. Seriously though what has happened to Enrique, I rated him when he first came. Now whenever he gets a chance to play he looks like he's never played football before. We'll be lucky if anybody takes him off our hands now, unless they need a social media advisor.

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  24. Hahahahahaha you win the internet for tonight :-)

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  25. You know what will happen if BR reads this, don't you?!?

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  26. You meant that to vvlfc, right?

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  27. I read what you posted on Ibe a few times, you were so right (as I knew you would be) , now with this new info... I am over the moon man!!

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  28. He says Digne is RB, couldn't you have guessed he is not ret arded and made a typing mistake?

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  29. I was alright at football but the two boys from my school who went on to professional football were on another planet from me completely. The fitness and concentration even from the age of 12/13 were just amazing. One of them made 500 league appearances but mostly for lower league clubs -- had a few England U21 appearances as well but he looked like a competition winner in quality company, I thought. I can't imagine how good boys like Ibe and Clyne must have been, close up, as kids. What sets them apart, do you think, boys of that kind of premier league talent?

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  30. And we beat Barca/Real with Flanno...

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  31. I'd just like to take the moment to acknowledge that where we criticized Rodgers for talking about the "outstanding" Joe Gomez, we are subsequently using the exact same comments to suggest that Moreno is now potentially on his way out.


    Moreno is no longer outstanding I see... :)

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  32. Hardly standing at all apparently

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  33. Funny thing is Sakho has an extremely good pass percentage and hardly ever makes mistakes, it's just the way in which he looks to dribble looks uneasy, which to be honest doesn't bother me at all as long as he does his job.

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  34. Sorry mate, Nainloggan signed a new contact till 2020. I have an Italian friend who is a Roma fan and he hates Doumbia so none of those options are viable. Strootman would be the other good option.

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  35. Gross, damaging overpraise if ever ive seen it

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  36. It explains why Moreno hasn't been played on tour yet.

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  37. I don't it's right that you get rid of any player without giving them time to integrate properly.
    I don't think a year is enough time.
    He has been poor at times but at times he has also looked a good signing.
    Needs coaching on the defensive side of his game.
    I would give him another season definitely.

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  38. Joe Allen is still at Liverpool so Moreno should be given time Joe has and hes still useless.

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  39. He has only played 13 games at Roma siddy and he'd be a better fit than Benteke any day.

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  40. These people would go crazy if we were willing to sell Lallana after that one horrible season. I just can't believe we are willing to sell Alberto Moreno.

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  41. Yeah Skrtel has been doing it for years, probably after having played with Carra, the king of handball-penalties :)

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  42. Delph have signed City, after he said he'd stay. Just goes to show how quickly the market changes.


    In fact we should take notes of this example and try for Lacazette. It might be near impossible, but it never hurts to try.

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  43. Benjamin Ziege Chanda7:26 am, July 18, 2015

    I feel the same for me Moreno's first season wasn't disastrous at all his first was average like most of the Liverpool side so to pick out Moreno and judge him based on his first is not really a smart. Apart from skirtel and coutinhio the rest were average

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  44. Dear Lacazette, come to us, because we have a nice history and everything is outstanding. Lacazette:" No thank you, i am not a student at history, i am a football player, i am interested about the present." So the question is will Liverpool fight for trophies, if yes, Lacazette is a possibility, yes.

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  45. Benjamin Ziege Chanda7:38 am, July 18, 2015

    Bad business indeed Moreno should he did more good than harm

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  46. Wish them both the best!

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  47. We're assuming here that it is Rodgers who has decided to move Moreno on for footballing reasons rather than Moreno himself asking to be moved on or Moreno in some way upsetting the manager. I have nothing but speculation for the following theory but from the outside it looked like Moreno's best mates at the club were Javier Manquillo and Jose Enrique. Manquillo has gone and we assume Enrique will go. May be Moreno was upset about the departure of his mates and said something out of turn to Rodgers.

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  48. There might also have been some fallout as a result of him being substituted at half time against Stoke. But as you say just speculation at the moment

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  49. I see Empire of the Kop are claiming that Moreno was injured for those two matches.

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  50. Surely the right move would be to bring in competition for Moreno (potentially Digne). This would leave Gomez to compete with Clyne, where this leaves Wisdom though?......

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  51. We've agreed a fee with Villa and booked Benteke in for a medical. Why would we then go after Lacazette?

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  52. I must admit that this game called football intrigues me in the amount of money that gets thrown around .
    The lastest article to grab my attention was
    Lazio want Mario Balotelli but cannot pay for ,and want LFC to pay his wages .
    Surely that cannot be true ?

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  53. Another year of transition beckons?

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  54. A few points paraphrased from a post made by a Villa fan to dispel some lazy Benteke myths:


    'Injury prone'- No. Not necessarily. He sustained an achilles injury from a bad tackle last year, and a hip flexor injury the year before that. Apart from these injuries, if it weren't for these injuries, I think his team doctor would find it difficult to recognise him.


    'He doesn't press'- Well, yes, he didn't press for a big bulk of his Villa career. But that's because Lambert told his front 3 not to press in the other half.


    'He's just a target man'- Having skill at being a target man does not exclusively make you a target man. Many great strikers don't know how to be a target man because they're not big and imposing like Benteke is, and/or have more options to their game which are more effective and more attractive. Villa are not a creative team with a flair playmaker, so that's what Benteke has had to work with. Unlike Carroll, he's good with the ball at his feet.


    'He's a bad passer'- The fact that many of his attempted pass-downs are knock downs (as a result of being a target man) makes his woeful passing stat very misleading. It's a lot harder to accurately knock a ball down to a team mate than just normally pass it. At one stage, Guzan to Benteke was the most attempted pass in the league. Also, from what I've seen, he's actually good at making incisive passes that would be better served aimed towards him than from him.

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  55. I thought it was something like I know them too...

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  56. Almost every time we hear giving 'em' another season to prove his worth.
    Listen, Moreno is constantly prone to error (just like Johnson ) and should be replaced asap .
    We're struggling for goals (since we can't get a player of Suarez caliber ) that means we can't afford those childish errors

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  57. No but me and messi are besties..

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  58. That is my fear: last year we bought something like 9 players: everyone agreed it was disruptive. Looks like we'll have a similar sized job this year.....

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  59. It happens quite a bit. When big teams want to shift a high earner they will often pay a percentage of the salary agreed with the buying club. It helps to convince an unwanted player to leave if his salary will be the same at worst at a new club.

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  60. I couldn't agree more with the Villa supporter. Benteke does what he's told to do but is by no means unable to do anything else other than be a target man. It's a role, just like second striker, fox in the box or false nine etc and some of the best forwards in the world are target men anyway so I can't really see any negative. The dude scores goals. We currently don't.

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  61. I saw this but there are photos of him taking part in training over the last week so bit of a strange one.

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  62. Moreno could come good,he has skill and pace its just his positional sense that let's him down and I'm inclined to give him a pass on that because Liverpool's entire defensive structure was at sixes and sevens all last season,hardly an ideal situation to judge a young player from a foreign country

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  63. I feel pretty much split down the middle on this.

    On one hand it seems a bit harsh to ditch him after 1 fairly average season when the whole team underperformed for large parts.

    On the other hand is he ever going to be good enough? I'm not sure he will ever become much better positionally than he already is. I feel this is a skill you either have or you haven't and no matter the hours put in in training it's unlikely to improve considerably. He's also probably a bit too lightweight.

    All said and done if we can recoup pretty much what we paid for him last summer I say let him go and look elsewhere. On the evidence of last season we can hardly do much worse.

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  64. Ghost of Suarez5:49 pm, July 18, 2015

    Why do they want to sell him after 6 months?? I will have a stab....players who come.from Russia look good in highlight reels but they get here and can't trap a bag of sand. Not all, just most....

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  65. Sturridge can swap out for Benteke/Lacazette each game, and Ings/Origi will come maybe as subs. Balo Borini Lambert should be sold if that's the case. Of course we should play both strikers each game though.

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  66. that's Rodger now he's trying to save his a*s, buying players

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  67. Ive said it before and I'll say it again, the lad looks a dumb as a bag of rocks, id keep him but I do think hes a bit dim

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  68. He's the king of trying to play like he does on fifa

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  69. I say we keep him not least because we don't have any other natural left back other than Mr glass Enrique. For all that nonesense about stats yet we weren't even linked to amavi who's just signed for Aston villa. Moreno needs proper competition until then he'll always have that over confidence that leads to
    Loss of concentration. Same as mings and Johnson when he was here.
    Players need to be looking over their shoulders. It's the only way to keep performances up. Yet we have only one good Rb and lb, one average keeper yet we expect them to keep performances up.

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  70. If we get in an anchor man who puts defence first and cover for the attacking fullbacks. All the midfielders save lucas have the tendency to drive forward and leave gaps in behind.
    We need a constant presence screening the defence. Without that we'll always look vulnerable in defence.

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  71. Why is allen still a liverpool player?

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  72. This has absolutely nothing to do with my post

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  73. i would give him till january and if he still keep making mistakes i sell him but remember he is still young and with seville he was solid. what about balo, is he staying? why is he still there?

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  74. Sakho was a French international and captain prior to coming to Liverpool; not some untested kid.

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  75. because no-one else wants him???

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  76. I hear what you say ,but it still does not explain why Sterling would not hand in a transfer , knowing his wages are going from 35 to 200 k p/w or Benteke handing in a transfer knowing his wages will go up ?

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  77. If he had handed in a transfer request he would have lost a very significant loyalty bonus. Some rumours suggest that that loyalty bonus may have been worth £5million. Sounds unlikely to me and the more conservative estimate of a couple of million seems more likely.

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  78. One thing that doesn't really make sense in this story: why would Sabatini be flying to England to sign Moreno? Ian Ayre, Brendan Rodgers and Alberto Moreno are ALL in Australia.


    ForzaItalia are claiming that they are also talking to Borussia Dortmund about their left back Marcel Schmezel. On balance I am inclined not to give much credence to this story.

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  79. Moreno was the only somewhat decent signing last summer. He may have made mistakes but at least he wasnt afraid to make them. The kid showed heart. Which is more than Can be said of many others

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  80. Neither would want to lose their loyalty bonuses which become obsolete on handing in a written transfer request. No doubt that those lovely agents stand to get a percentage of that, thus explaining their willingness to do everything aside from that to get their men a move.

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  81. Can was the best IMO, Moreno has done ok ans will only get bettet

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  82. Italians play differently you fit in or you dont we have just paid 32 mill for Benteke to me a much more expensive mistake.
    Saw Doumbia take Man City apart in a game i think he would have been fine definitely a better fit than Benteke.

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  83. Ghost of Suarez3:40 pm, July 21, 2015

    Why is Benteke a mistake again?
    As for Doumbia, most athletic, powerful professionally trained footballers good enough to play for top flight European clubs are capable of isolated outstanding performances ...the difference between them and the players is who play in the elite leagues is more about consistency and mental strength than anything massive gap in physical ability (notwithstanding the fewer truly world class players of course). The fact that Doumbia was able to turn it on against City is no more significant than Adam Le Fondre raising his game for one match against LFC in the cup. The fact is that of the dozens of strikers that have moved from Russia or Ukraine to the big leagues only one, Shevchenko, could be said to be a complete success, albeit in Italy....even he flopped over here. Voronin, Rebrov, Pavliawotsit :-) and I could go on and on......

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  84. Ghost of Suarez3:46 pm, July 21, 2015

    It's silly season....never gonna happen, other Italian press stating we are going to let Lazio have Salvo... ON LOAN. Balls, all of it :-)

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  85. So you state Lefondre is of similar ability to Doumbia well i dont think you much to stand on knowledge wise give while you only look foolish.

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  86. Ghost of Suarez8:34 am, July 22, 2015

    Well no that wasn't what I stated at all, as you well know I would think. I was merely highlighting that many players who play at a lower standard of football are capable of isolated performances that, taken individually, make them look like they could play at a higher level when the reality is they lack the consistency to do so regularly. I made this analogy as you were of the opinion that Doumbia's performance against City must keen he will automatically play like that's every week....and he won't. I made no direct comparison of the two as players.

    "Big target men never work out as big successes at Liverpool"
    ....well big immobile slow strikers certainly wouldn't, trouble is that's not what Benteke is...I mean you make statements like they are fact when you seemingly must never have watched him play. He is not 6'6 lumbering Andy Carroll, he is just shy of 6'3 (the same height as Drogba and Henry who were hardly immobile players at their peaks) he has pace and less than 25% of his goals are headed, Carroll record is around 50%. Go on you tube for five minutes and look at his goals...there are all sorts, off the shoulder of last defender, pacey counter attack goals (exactly the type of goals that were our stock in trade in 2013/14, but we scored very few like that last year). His OPTA stats show he has been Villa' most productive chance creator (132) in his time there, hardly the stats of a lumbering target man. I mean do some research before just repeating what others are saying parrot fashion.

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  87. Seen enough of Benteke to know hes no Henryor Drogba theres really very little in common with them and Benteke.
    Before peddling the junk about lower competition players just remember the rubbish that has come out of Villa at a cost Young and Downing ring a bell.

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  88. I have my own opinion so before you start parroting your tripe like you always do stop and think as to why the majority disagree.

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  89. So because the majority disagree that means you must be right? Ever heard the expression that a lie is only a lie until it is repeated often enough? I don't know how this myth about Benteke has taken root but the galling thing about this is that you can just see it's not true by watching his goals videos

    The statistical analysis I have just provided, plus the evidence of anyone with eyes who can watch Benteke's readily available goal collections proves I am right. But above all the fact that you are just getting angrier and not trying to counter any of the analysis of his performance and statistics proves the YOU know I am right yet you just dont feel quite able to accept it. You will have to answer why that is? Beats me.....

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  90. Again as you well know I was just making the comparison to point out that tall players are not necessarily immobile, not comparing there overall ability, certainly not with Henry anyaway. Getting more desperate to find a point to make pal?

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  91. You havent made a point yet i won hands down you just talk non sense u cant even explain how tactically he will fit go off and play in the traffic son.

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  92. Cant even satand by what you say hmmm

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  93. Ghost of Suarez9:37 pm, July 22, 2015

    I am not so sure that was the issue we bought 8 players last summer but only 7 had to be integrated (Origi went on loan), but we bought 6 in before 2013/14 and it didn't seem to hurt then. Think the issue (apart from the obvious loss of SAS for season) was more one of the age of them, Markovic, Moreno, Can all top class youngsters talent wise but irrrespective of their fees were still 20 year old kids moving to a big club in a foreign country, some of them were bound to struggle the first year and they did as the team struggled to find itself. Can showed his class later on but expect much more from all 3 this season.

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  94. I think the real problem last season was that we didn't have a striker who could score goals. Had we had one there is no doubt whatsoever we would be playing in the Champions' League this season.

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  95. Ghost of Suarez1:24 pm, July 23, 2015

    Yeah I agree Studge getting injured was the one player we couldn't afford to lose whilst coming to terms with Suarez. Sods law but we have addressed it now, Rodgers has been backed with (as far as we know) the players he wanted so know is the time....we should be aiming at 3rd and automatic CL qualification

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  96. I am not your pal get that straight and statiscal analysis means nothing if a player doesnt fit a system thus why recruiting is not a statistical science i am sure you didnt know that.
    You got nothing and ive made my point without rattling on.

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  97. Yes I like our recruitment thus far. There is still talk of us going for another marquee signing- we're still being linked with Pedro and Reus. Either of those would be the real icing on the cake. I have a good feeling going into this season. When we were going for the title a couple of years back the owners suggested that that title challenge had come a couple of years earlier than they had anticipated in their plan- that should theoretically mean they are expecting to challenge this year!

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  98. Yeah what we proved in 2013/14 is that with the right recruitment it is not impossible to challenge, but we have to remember it is still gonna be difficult this year. If the expected players leave our spending net will be £20m ish and ManU will likely be about £60-70m past that. City are about to spend £60m on De Bruyne.....but revenues are up and the expanded stadium will be going in another 18 months or so. Then we will be able to compete with Arsenal and get closer to ManU in terms least. Just got to break top four a couple of years in a row and revenues will go further and everything will snowball

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