22 Dec 2014

Confirmed: LFC free to bring in 'monster' striker 'in January'. Total transfer fee is £16m

The Divock Origi transfer saga rumbles on, and although Reds boss Brendan Rodgers has publicly ruled out a january return for the young striker, it seems that Lille are willing to let him leave early...for a price.

When asked last month about Origi's status, Rodgers dismissed reports that the striker will 'come back early':

"The deal was put in place quite clearly in the summer that he would stay at Lille for the season, and then we would get him after that. As far as I'm concerned, that's still the case."

On Saturday, however, Lille Director Jean-Michel Van Damme confirmed that an early return for Origi *is* possible. He told reporters:

"Origi to Liverpool? We haven't received any proposal, but they could offer €7M in January"

If Liverpool spend another €7m (£6m) on Origi to quash his loan spell, then that will make his transfer fee £16m overall, which - like Markovic - is ridiculously inflated.

Liverpool desperately need a new striker, but I am totally against breaking Origi's loan spell. After spending £120m over the summer, Liverpool shouldn't need to rely on him for a mid-season boost, and the fact it's even being contemplated is just another sad indictment of Rodgers' abject failure in the transfer market.

As such, even if the opportunity exists, I hope Liverpool reject the opportunity to bring Origi back early, and just leave him alone to develop his game at Lille.

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  1. Have to agree mate, as much as we need some firepower, it would be heaping a bunch of pressure on a player that hasnt been performing in a lesser league. Let him play his way back into form at Lille and we'll catch him next season.

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  2. Lille can shove it. It's better if he comes in the summer and have the entire preseason to get used to the team. Than if he comes now with the team struggling and need a huge second half of the season to even be in the top 4. Lille is broke and would love nothing better than to extort us. As for our teaser policy, it was the wrong way to go after last season. Fine in Rodgers' first season but after last season we needed seasoned veterans like Fabregas, Costa and Sanchez. Not youth like Markovic. That's why we are where we are and compounded with Sturridge's ridiculous injury record. We have no strikers. But I also feel Borini is better than Lambert and Balotelli but Rodgers refuse to play him......despite his ridiculous red card against Arsenal

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  3. Would be more proof that Brenda is just a hapless clown that has become increasingly desperate to save his own skin. People starting to understand why he was fired from Watford and Reading..he was a useless manager then .. and nothing has changed..

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  4. I'm afraid he wasn't fired from Watford, champ.

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  5. Agree. No matter the justification, Origi is not the answer. Liverpool have lost Suarez, perhaps the best striker on the planet at the time, and we simply haven't replace him with a proper top class player. Balotelli isn't living up to the expectation and even if Sturridge comes back we're short on quality in that position. Lambert has been only OK and Borini is a very peripheral figure. Spending extra money to bring back a player who is clearly still very raw and will need even more time to adapt won't solve any short term problems. Origi is fine as another long term project, a player to be afforded time to settle in and improve over the years. If anything brining him to Liverpool now would put him under pressure to perform and potentially damage his confidence if it doesn't immediately work out.


    Hopefully the Lille president is just responding to the press speculation and Liverpool are simply not interested in it.

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  6. Liverpool would have loved to have signed players like that and to be fair they did try. There is only so much you can do to try and convince a player. At the end of the day we were a team that had lost our best player and were clearly a risk of being a one-season wonder.

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  7. uh yes he was ...sport...leaving by "mutual consent" is just another way of saying .. get the Fk out... the team was clinging on to avoid relegation... He' a pathetically average manager and is more proof that FSG are a bunch of clueless morons that have no idea what they are doing...

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  8. From Wikipedia:
    Weeks after guaranteeing Watford's survival, and following the resignation of Steve Coppell as Reading manager, Rodgers quickly became the favourite to succeed him and rejoin his old club.He initially distanced himself from reports linking him with the job, saying that his "concentration (is) fully on Watford".

    However, he eventually agreed a deal to become the new manager of Reading on 5 June 2009, after a compensation package worth an initial £500,000 with Watford was agreed, which later rose to £1 million. The Watford Supporters' Trust stated that Rodgers' reputation was "severely damaged" in the eyes of the supporters as a result of the move, but they nevertheless "thanked (Rodgers) for his efforts last season" and "(wished) him well for the future".

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  9. Touche. And can we stop with the 'Brenda' thing? I'm not one to jump on the PC bandwagon, but why does making his name more 'feminine' devalue him? By all means if you want to make up a situation where the manager looks worse than he actually is because it suits your argument, go right ahead, but a) expect to be called out on it and b) dont think that turning his name into a woman's name is an effective insult.

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  10. Look at Benjamina over here, lads! Is it your time of the month, love?



    Hahahahaha #bantz #ladz

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  11. #MadBantz #boysboysboysboysboysboysboys
    I hate me a hashtag like nobody's business.

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  12. #sorry #genuinecontrition #remorsefulbutmasculine

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  13. Getting frustrated with BR...I think he is a very good trainer, but still long to go to be a top 4 club Manager. Last year at LFC was a perfect fit for him, a club with good players focused only one thing; but this year, so many stakes & so much money to spend took the better of him. Personally, I believe, eventually BR'll become a good Manager (best among Brits, as the benchmark after Sir Alex's retirement has come down to Moyes or Redknapp), but that's probably a decade after.


    I know, there are lot more vaunted ego at stake, but what about BR remaining at LFC as the youth coach or even as deputy of someone like Rafa? As said, I think he is a good trainer, but short in Management capacity - that's game specific tactics (he tried to beat JM last year, when a draw against Chelsea would have done the job), particular tactical problem solving (like failure to solve defense after 29 months in charge & 60mn+ worth spending), resource allocation (Transfer market howlers), man-management (dropping big players like SG/Johnson), lack of vision (he is still limbering with a GK, which is the most important position to fix for a long term - Rafa sealed that at one go).


    There are lot rumors mongering, but I am not sure if we 'll see any further big transfer under BR. Ether he has to sell to buy or FSG 'll appoint someone like Commolli or BR 'll be sacked - he has lost his credibility completely. Destiny is probably balancing scores for Remi, who was ill treated by BR (almost finished his career), & now BR would have been in 7th haven with a striker like Remi at his disposal.

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  14. Gotta love Claude on ArsenalFanTV: 'MY CHRISTMAS IS RUINED! I'M NOT HAVING CHRISTMAS ANYMORE! MY CHRISTMAS IS ABANDONED NOW!'

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  15. I thought Brenda was just a scouse pronounciation...

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  16. Rodgers- "We do a lot of defensive work religiously". BULLSHIT.

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  17. If only, Nick, if only...

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  18. They probably do, to be fair. Sometimes, especially when the backline is rotated so often, it's hard for them to gel. The defense for about 85 minutes looked great vs AFC. They played the ball around well, lending itself to our massive possession gap in the first half. There werent as many heart stopping backpasses, just calm retention. Having Marko and Hendo on either side, as well as Stevie dropping right into the backline meant we had passers back there to get the ball moving from the back. Some of our little triangles to move the ball from our corner flag into attack were lovely, especially on Marko's side. Kolo and Sakho don't look super comfy on the ball but did well when called on.

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  19. Love it. I can't stand Claude, so it made my day.

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  20. Origi alone will not solve the attacking problem of LFC. We need another prolific striker as Balotelli and Borini are not good enough.

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  21. I think it really shows our need for a striker who has a similar analog to what we are used to. Hindsight is an amazing tool and Remy would have fit very nicely, but if the LFC meds seem to think that his health issues would surface and negatively impact his time at the club, I'm 100% behind them. Now it's just finding the striker to fit the keyhole...

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  22. And yet, we conceded a goal via one of our biggest weaknesses; an innocuous arial threat that turned dangerous because of our incompetence. I get that we did well in playing the ball out from the back, but the two Arsenal goals were both extremely soft.

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  23. They could work hard and still be rubbish at it

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  24. How do you buy the fact that they work hard at nullifying innocuous, hail mary aerial balls? For players at this level, it is fundamental defending. If they were really working had at it, they would have figured out by now that they ball watch, and the problem would have been solved.

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  25. Bony in January with Borini leaving would be ideal.

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  26. Sometimes its not how hard you practice but what you practice religiously.

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  27. Maybe it's not as simple as you think it is.

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  28. But it is Adam. If, according to Carra, it's simple to fix Lovren's positional flaws, then it's definitely simple to fix a problem with defending a merely low-grade, desperate tactic generally used by tinpot teams with no creativity against the big boys. I can understand if we're talking about defending against set pieces- which can take a couple of games to get used to after practice- but come on mate, don't act like defending against aimless aerial pingpong is something understandably hard to grasp for elite level defenders.

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  29. So Rodgers is just lying and they don't do much defensive training at all?

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  30. I'm sure they do have a defensive training regime, but the man is a hyperbole-whore.

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  31. Here's the angle behind my view. You would expect that a team like Liverpool has coaches who know the correct types of drills to fix a problem with nullifying aimless, relatively innocuous crosses. Therefore, understandably presuming that they do, it would seem to me it's not something they work 'religiously' at, because if it was, they'd be a lot better at it. If our coaches don't know the right things to practice then we've got a massive problem.

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  32. I actually agree, I'm just playing devils advocate. Who knows what goes on at Melwood. Maybe they play twister.

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  33. You f***ing devil.

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  34. Yeah, that pretty much sums it up. The coaches are not idiots and we've got a line up of very experienced defenders. If they are working very hard at training but the same mistakes keep happening then it's the wrong type of training. Alternatively Rodger's view of working hard at defence is not in line with other managers at other clubs.

    What I suspect is that for the past two seasons Rodgers has been on a massive learning curve in terms of defensive tactics. He's getting better and last season taught him a few lessons. The problem is that he brought in a new defender who he thought was going to solve all his problems and it didn't work. Therefore it's back to the drawing board, but the team has so little time to train with all the games they have to play that it's all kind of relative. Very hard might only end up being a few hours a week simply because there isn't enough time. I'd say at the moment the team probably is genuinely "working very hard" but they are playing catch up. Not to mention the switch to a back 3 which is not going to help. Plus confidence is at a horrible level so even if you work hard it doesn't always go well.


    I don't intend to make excuses, it's just that there is always an explanation for why things happen and I'm always curious to know what that is. Rodgers is running out of time and goodwill and if he gets to the end of his third season and Liverpool are still defensively suspect then he will just have to accept that he's failed.

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  35. Yep, and here's my real gripe: We've got EXPERIENCED defenders, and you don't even need to work hard to fix this specific problem I'm talking about, because it's that straightforward. Solution: don't ball watch! They stand there like stunned mullets and watch the attackers just jump up and head the ball around in the box for fun. I don't know why experienced veterans allow this to happen.


    I get that 'work hard' is a pretty relative term. If they only have time for a few hours, then that's fine. But as I was saying, you don't need a few hours to fix the problem I pinpointed anyway. I'm just pissed off at how such a simple yet expensive flaw hasn't seemingly been fixed yet.


    If Rodgers gets sacked, I don't know if defence or transfers will be the biggest reason...

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  36. Brad Guzan GK problem solved, As for out defence i have no idea :)

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  37. Well that just doesn't make sense. You moan that Rodgers has failed in the transfer market (which he has), but when there is an option available to get a striker in (which we need) you say we shouldn't take the option because we shouldn't have to because of the money we've already spent, even though you admit that we have spent that money badly.

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  38. It may be more accurate to refer to the transfer decisions as those of the 'transfer committee' rather than inferring they are the final decision of Rogers. This is third year of his original deal, and, being in this position, it seems unlikely Rogers would pursue so many players set to peak beyond the timeframe of his objectives. Clearly, there is other decision making in addition to Rogers.

    Agreed on the subject of Origis early return...my personal preference would be to blood a couple of the youth strikers up front with Sterling until Sturridge's return.
    They know the style of play and they understand club culture and have more chance of demonstrating this in games. I feel dilution of team character and values through new imports is a big factor in team performance, and enough of that has happened recently at lfc.

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  39. hard to believe someone who worked with mourinho hasng learnt defense

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