Liverpool and Everton produced one of the best Merseyside derbies in years over the weekend, but the quality of the game continues to be overshadowed by several negative incidents, the worst of which is arguably Kevin Mirallas' disgraceful revenge-'tackle' on Luis Suarez. Or is it? In my view, the rough treatment received by Liverpool's physio as he tried to attend to the Uruguayan is worse, and the FA need to do something about it.
After Mirallas scythed down Suarez, one of Liverpool's medical staff rushed onto the pitch to provide much-needed treatment.
Instead of letting him do his job, Everton's players - led by Gareth Barry - tried to block the physio from getting to Suarez, and as you can see from the image below, Barry GRABBED hold of the guy and almost dragged him to the ground.
This is disgraceful behaviour, and the FA should charge Everton with the well-established offence of 'failure to control players'. How else can this incident be described? Everton did, in fact, fail to control their players! The physio may have said something to the ref, but that does not mean Everton players then have licence to manhandle him.
It's very simple: Medical staff should be allowed onto the field without being accosted/assaulted/manhandled by opposition players. It's not that much to ask, is it?!
What if - for the sake of argument - Suarez had swallowed his tongue; had breathing difficulties, or was subject to some other unforeseen complication? The extra seconds wasted by trying to battle through Everton's irate players could've been fatal. As such, the FA needs to take action, and send an unambiguous message that this type of behaviour is totally unacceptable.
Additionally, referee Phil Dowd should also be disciplined. Dowd let the situation get out of hand by waiting a ridiculous amount of time before giving Mirallas a yellow card. His amateur handling of the whole incident contributed to the problem, and even though he was stood right next to Barry as the situation unfolded, he took no action (!)
If English football'sspineless governing body doesn't act here, it is implicitly condoning this behaviour. The FA needs to set a precedent: medical staff must NOT - under any circumstances - be impeded when entering the field of play to treat a player.
That is the issue at stake here, and it needs to be made explicitly clear.
Author: Jaimie K
After Mirallas scythed down Suarez, one of Liverpool's medical staff rushed onto the pitch to provide much-needed treatment.
Instead of letting him do his job, Everton's players - led by Gareth Barry - tried to block the physio from getting to Suarez, and as you can see from the image below, Barry GRABBED hold of the guy and almost dragged him to the ground.
This is disgraceful behaviour, and the FA should charge Everton with the well-established offence of 'failure to control players'. How else can this incident be described? Everton did, in fact, fail to control their players! The physio may have said something to the ref, but that does not mean Everton players then have licence to manhandle him.
It's very simple: Medical staff should be allowed onto the field without being accosted/assaulted/manhandled by opposition players. It's not that much to ask, is it?!
What if - for the sake of argument - Suarez had swallowed his tongue; had breathing difficulties, or was subject to some other unforeseen complication? The extra seconds wasted by trying to battle through Everton's irate players could've been fatal. As such, the FA needs to take action, and send an unambiguous message that this type of behaviour is totally unacceptable.
Additionally, referee Phil Dowd should also be disciplined. Dowd let the situation get out of hand by waiting a ridiculous amount of time before giving Mirallas a yellow card. His amateur handling of the whole incident contributed to the problem, and even though he was stood right next to Barry as the situation unfolded, he took no action (!)
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That is the issue at stake here, and it needs to be made explicitly clear.
Author: Jaimie K
I could be wrong, but I think they were doing that because the physio had said something to Dowd. What he said I don't know.
ReplyDeleteBut my assumption is that, the players think he said something about sending him off? Either way, its not good behaviour.
The whole surrounding the ref behaviour is pretty disgusting really. The ref should talk to the clubs captain and the players involved in the incident, anyone else getting involved should get immediately booked. No questions, no warnings. It would soon stop players doing it.
But the refs should also take time to explain decisions, not just wave there arms around dismissively, like they do sometimes.
In fairness I think the Physio said something to the ref to try to influence the card he was likely to produce as it was only after he spoke to the ref that Barry got a bit upset. There was already another member of the medical team seeing to Suarez at that time so it wasn't as if no-one was giving him treatment.
ReplyDeleteI don't think the Physio should have said anything to the ref but Barry should certainly not have done what he did.
All of the blame lies with the ref really as he let the situation escalate by not producing the red card immediately after the incident. Mirralles was expecting it, and should have got it but for some reason the ref wanted to wait 5 minutes before showing any card at all!!
Really? Is this a parody? If not you need to take another look at what was happening during that incident. If it is that urgent to attend to the rat, why did the physio take time out on his way to chat to the referee and try to get a player sent off? What if the rat had swallowed his tongue, as you propose could of happened, but the physio is stood chatting to the ref? Disgraceful to delay his urgent life saving attention in such a manner!
ReplyDeleteWhile watching the match, I thought the Everton players got pissed off because the physio tried to speak to the referee about the tackle instead of tending to Suarez first. That said, I do believe the player's manhandling of the physio was in bad taste. Mirallas deserved a red card which he himself has agreed. The blame lies with the referee.
ReplyDeleteWhy does it matter if the physio said something to the ref? Does that justify being manhandled by opposition players?
ReplyDeleteAgree that the majority of blame lies with weak Ref. However, we don't know for a fact that the physio said something to the ref; that's just speculation. What we do know is that Everton's players accosted the physio, and that's a fact.
ReplyDeleteAbsolutely agree with this Jamie. Imagine is the Physio who saved Muamba also received the same treatment, those seconds count.
ReplyDeleteI just can't get my head around at why Mirallas was not sent off, what else does he need to do to get sent off? The a few minutes later Lucas (once again) fouls a player and gets a yellow card.
I don't understand this whole thinking of trying not to send players off as it spoils the game..look what happen in the World Cup Final 2010, De Jongs challenge was a red card, but the ref because he wanted to keep the game 11vs11 did not act. This is against the rules.
I don't care if Gerrard make a similar tackle in the 30secs of the game, if it's a red it's a red regardless.
Anyway, it was a great game to watch but I was not impressed the refs performance.
Do you know what I hate more, is that after all these bad decisions the refs never have to answer for there actions. they just sit behind the big wigs at the FA, who dish out fines for anyone who says anything bad about them.
ReplyDeleteIm not saying the refs should be grilled, but they could at least explain what they were thinking in a post match interview.
The physio shouldn't have been mouthing off to the ref, he should have tended to Suarez first. The players reacted because of what he said. This article is laughable. I've seen an article on an Everton fans website in which they're calling for the physio to be charged for trying to influence the ref!
ReplyDeleteYour post has been edited. If you personally insult Suarez or anyone else in future posts then they will be deleted without question.
ReplyDeleteHow do you know the physio tried to get Mirallas sent off? Were you there in the melee? Are you a world class lip-reader? No. The physio could've been asking the ref to get the Everton players out of his way to he could attend to Suarez.
Totally agree. They should have to account for their decisions after every match. They should be compelled to publish a report - available to the public - explaining the reasons behind each and every decision.
ReplyDeleteYes, it absolutely does matter. In your article you mention how vital seconds lost might be have been fatal (talk about overreaction?!?!) but then why was the physio wasting time talking to the referee? To enter the field of play, the physio must first get permission from the referee and when he does come on to the field of play, it is so he can treat the player. The physio has no right to argue with or try to influence the referee. Everton players were well within their rights to try stop this happening although Dowd's ridiculous handling of the situation didn't help. If the Liverpool physio is really worried about getting to the players that need treatment, my advice would be for him to shut his big mouth and do the job which he is supposed to instead of getting involved in things that don't concern him.
ReplyDeleteAgain, the notion that the physio tried to influence the ref is unbacked supposition. You have no proof to support that. It just fits your argument. The only provable fact in this situation is that Everton players - specifically Gareth Barry - manhandled the physio.
ReplyDeleteWell what a suprise Liverpool fans getting it wrong again with thier rose tinted glasses. I hope for one Everton put a formal complaint into he FA and you should be fined along with Physio he entered the field of play had no concern about treating the player (who was already being treated by two physios) and tried to influence the decision of the referee. This you gang of morons is called cheating and typical of you lot.
ReplyDeleteI love you trying to justify this by saying he was being stopped from treating the player, he was cheating plain and simple. As for FdotM to compare this to muamba and the treatment he needed is a disgrace, every second counts for a leg injury you muppet I dont think so
He wasn't doing his job. He was trying to do the referees job.
ReplyDeleteAnd you know this how...?
ReplyDeleteWhy would Gareth Barry react he way he did? He obviously had a word with the ref because he'd seen the replay.
ReplyDeleteIMO refs should be interviewed after the game. And like Jamie said, a report too.
ReplyDeleteThey have the power to change title challenges and relegation drops so why can't they be accountable?
Furthermore, why does the FA not adopt video tech?
The FA are a joke. If I was a player I would be like Barton and be a loud mouth against the FA.
I agree that it's possible that the physio could've said something negative about Everton to the ref, but we don't know that for sure. He could've said any number of things to irritate Barry.
ReplyDeleteEven if he said something, that doesn't justify what happened afterwards. What if one of Everton's players had gone further and punched the physio? Where does it end?
These are highly paid 'professionals' (allegedly), and they should act like professionals.
I wish more players were like Barton, challenging the FA all the time.
ReplyDeleteI am afraid Jaime you are the one who using the situation to suit you and your are completely clutching at straws EFC players have no reason to react of stop the physio from trying to treat the player unless he is trying to influence the ref. If you use common sense and logic that is the only answer and I am afraid your are dreaming if you think otherwise
ReplyDeleteGiven that the physio clearly says something to the referee before the everton players react I think it's a safe supposition to make. If you look at the physio, he is clearly annoyed about something when he is speaking to the referee. With all the evidence there, angry physio speaking the referee and then the everton players reacting, what do you think the physio said to the ref?
ReplyDeleteWith respect, I've used irrefutable fact to underpin my argument. You and others have not.
ReplyDeleteHe could've remarked that Everton players were surrounding Suarez, blocking the way, making it difficult for him to be treated.
ReplyDeleteYes Mirallas twice tried to exchange christmas cards but it was suarez who didnt want them. So he deserved the attempt to break his knee and the stamp on his back. And deservedly should be reported to UK Border Agency and in the mean time be held in illegal immigrants detention centre pending removal from the UK.
ReplyDeleteWould certainly be interesting reading from last year's Goodison derby as to how the referee didn't even book Suarez for a tackle that put Mirallas out of the game and for two months after that.
ReplyDeleteI agree. After the game last year, I highlighted Suarez's challenge on Mirallas. It's a joke he didn't get booked for that.
ReplyDeleteWhat are you talking about? When did he stamp on his back? Oh you mean when Suarez dived into the tackle and had no control and used excessive force (see Wes Brown red card) and the miralles landed on him. I forgot that old trick we can all do where you can make your legs vanish or levitate until the players moves. Use some common sense although I realise on a Liverpool forum this is in short supply
ReplyDeleteAye Gareth Barry isnt guilty at all. This is an international class player on a par with the greats of his profession. He was asking the physio to ensure that Suarez hasnt damaged anything seriously. The FA should ban Suarez for 20 games for having the audacity to bring his knee to the game and allowing it to be hit. Mirallas was going for the ball and there was no malice involved. The second time as Mirallas is a part time Chiropractor he was simply ensuring that his spine was straight.
ReplyDeleteYou have shown me one side of the story with images that suit your case
ReplyDeleteSuarez could have very easily injured himself bar his leg as he fell awkwardly. I have seen minor tackles have worst repercussions due to the fall impact of it. It's reasonable to conclude that this could happen to any player.
ReplyDeleteIt was a horror tackle, everyone knows that. I would have no problems if Everton physios done this to attend a player after suffering such a bad tackle.
Yes ofcourse i admit we are really short in common sense - hence my intention to clarify to fellow supporters that mirallas as a chiropractor simply ensuring that suarez spine was straight.
ReplyDeleteAnd you call us bitter!......
ReplyDeleteThe images suit my argument because they're factual! There's no bias here - it is what it is. If the roles were reversed, and it was Suarez who challenged Mirallas, and LFC players who confronted Everton's physio, I'd be arguing exactly the same thing, and my article history proves this.
ReplyDelete"what if one of Everton's players had gone further and punched the physio?" It would have been an automatic red card but as that didn't happen not much point in speculating about it. This physio is also a highly paid professional and when on the pitch he has one job, to treat the injured player. Had he done this and nothing else then no Everton player would have gone near him. The referee really didn't help this situation though. Once he didn't show a red card immediately my thoughts were that he would show a yellow but then it seemed like he was checking how injured the player is and also let the likes of gerrard and the physio have their say, there was an obvious concern that Liverpool players and the physio were trying to persuade the referee into showing a red card which is why the everton players reactions is understandable.
ReplyDeleteDrop the personal insults from your posts. Next time, you'll be banned.
ReplyDeleteAnd it's not going to change sadly.
ReplyDeleteThere needs to be a total overall of the system.
1. Mandatory interviews with referees
2. Video tech to assist referees make decisions
3. Ability to charge players with improper conduct after being booked.
4. Penalizing a players after matches once they review it.
Etc...
But the images suit your case and your are playing one side of the argument. Nobody knows what the physio said but until he entered the pitch and passed comment to the referee nobody was pushing and shoving anybody else therefore he has agitated the situation with a comment or his actions. The incident does not take place and the pictures are not taken without the physio talking to the ref, who joined his other physios a fair amount of time after the treatment had started.
ReplyDeleteThe physio probably stopped Mirallas getting sent off by sticking his oar in. I really don't see what you are seeing. Barry slightly tugged on the physios jacket. Much ado about nothing. Have you done a piece on the dangerous play by your captain yet by the way?
ReplyDeleteIt this the same a Gerard being a specialist in self defence training and showing Barry that his elbow is a good weapon. You defo clutching at straws here and missing by a mile
ReplyDeleteJaime watch the match back and see how long it takes but the physio enters the pitch and how involved he gets with the treatment. As far as I am concerned he entered the pitch in order to influence the ref. This is backed by the time it took him to enter the pitch, the lack of interest in treating the player and the first thing he does is speak to the ref which prompts the reaction
ReplyDeleteTerrible article. The physio was telling the ref how to do his job.
ReplyDeleteThe physio was wrong to speak to the ref about trying to get miralles sent of so I can see why the everton players were in a uproar but it was a bad tackle so you could see why everyone got heated up. I'm just glad that Suarez is ok. You can see why some talented players like Bale dive if they are not getting protected by the ref. That tackle could of cost Suarez the rest of the season, a world cup or even his career.
ReplyDeleteJust shows how weak mirallas is he cant even get revenge right !suarez tackle last year was no were near as hard and mirallas went of like the bitch that he is! Suarez finished the game! As for tit funny mirallas used to do the same things in greece playing for the joke of the club olympiakos and he was sent off many time. As for the physio arguement jamie k is 100% right!
ReplyDelete72 seconds. He needed time to watch the replay.
ReplyDeleteLol - if that is true then it proves my point what was he doing for 72 seconds if he need to treat his player so badly
ReplyDeleteHow many times Steve?
ReplyDeleteLogic, Truth, Right, Fairness are unknown concepts to bitters - don't waste your time. they have got 2 match saving decisions in the last 2 home games against Liverpool but that will be dwarfed the next time they don't get a throw in against us.
ReplyDeleteIn case anyone didn't know it the Liverpool echo is run by evertonians, from ken Rodgers northern manager and everton fc biographer to almost all the sporting staff with couple of token exceptions, in fact the last two main Liverpool fc writers before james pearce were evertonian's - so no surprise to see the Suarez tackle hidden inside - the other way around and the whole front page would have been taken up.
ReplyDeleteWow! Just wow. Red tinted specs. The Physio clearly said something to the Ref.
ReplyDeleteHe should be the one being fined/dealt with by the FA. I can understand players forgetting their place and having a word with the ref. But for a senior and supposedly wiser head coming off the bench and having a go is much more disgraceful than anything Barry did in that incident.
Don't get me wrong, Mirallas should have received a red. No doubt, but to question the morals and integrity of the players and allege that the reason they accosted the physio was to stop the physio giving treatment is bitter, delusional and down right stupid.
This is a rather poor article and you only focus on one part of the confrontation that suits your opinion. When a situation such as what happens yesterday arrises, you must look at every aspect of that situation. You haven't here, and you've only focused on Barry tugging at the physio. Obviously Barry isn't pulling at him to stop Suarez from getting attention or else he would've stopped the other physio already on the pitch as well. You're completely ignoring 9/10 of everything going on and pulling a tactic used by tabloid media out of the bag by building your article based on one picture.
ReplyDeleteWhat I am surprised at is that this comment (being that it advocates deliberate violence to be displayed on the pitch) is allowed publication .
ReplyDeleteYou might be right that he was looking for Suarez. But as with the Suarez "stamps" it is impossible to be sure that there was deliberate intent. Certainly the height of this later challenge makes it look worse than the Suarez challenges. I was not JAs fault we lost but be wasn't great along with most of the defence. I must admit though I would not have gone with Flannagan and he played well so what do I know
ReplyDeleteJaimie K. The physio had no interest in treating suarez, clearly he can be seen talking to the ref FIRST. It matters little what he said, because what we DO KNOW, is that his priority was to talk to the ref, before even bothering to attempt to treat suarez for over a minute. I cant believe how idiotic your argument is when you claim Everton prevented him from treating suarez. The physio made a bee line to the ref. And as others have said, the 2nd physio was already treating suarez, so NO EVERTON player prevented saurez from getting treatment. Your article is ridiculous, your argument flawed and your laughable ability at logic is like watching a monkey trying to find reverse on a soviet tank.
ReplyDeleteOkay so I'm a liverpool fan and I think it's fair to say that it was pretty obviouse out physiol commented on the tackle which is against the rules and it was only after this discussion that the EFC ayers became agitated. This is a pretty poor article with very little emphasis on the game which we were treated to a spectacle yet this is what seems important to you. Very poor.
ReplyDeleteRegardless of whether the physio did his job or not, Barry shouldn't even be touching him.
ReplyDeleteBarry shouldn't even be tugging the physio's jacket.
ReplyDeletewhatever, the physio rocked up to the situation, first thing on is mind? have a word in the ear of the ref suggesting the player should be sent off!!!
ReplyDeleteif the fella is that interested in tactics and justice in the game, then maybe he should stop pulling toenails and massaging rich young men and go play football manager.
Players are supposed to get yellow's for suggesting another player should get booked, so are the Liverpool dugout that scared of a battering that they send the physio to do the job for them?
talk about unbacked superstition: http://www.liverpool-kop.com/2013/11/proof-that-mirallas-tackle-on-suarez-was-deliberate-malicious-liverpool-everton.html
ReplyDeleteI find it funny how you delete comment commenting on your abilities as a written or abilities to even analyse a moment in football which you clearly can't do judging by this topic, yet you can freely comment on the EFC players. Hypocrite
ReplyDeleteBarry has no right to touch the physio. He can argue his view but to touch the physio? No, just no.
ReplyDeleteIt's not fair to compare the stamping and this play, if only because the stamping was done in such a way that it would have been much harder to notice. That's not to condone it in any way... Suarez should have been dealt with for that. I'm just saying from the referee's perspective, it may not be as clear.
ReplyDeleteThe Mirallas tackle was clear as day though. While I don't personally believe that there was malicious intent involved, it's a red card plain and simple. The ref has a clear view of it. It's an unnatural-looking tackle, meaning it stands out more when you see it. And if you just take a look at Suarez's knee, it's obvious he got hit with studs, proving their was contact.
What fact???
ReplyDeleteLooked to me like the doc said something to either the ref or one of the Everton players...
ReplyDeleteI was more or less amused by that part of the situation.
Besides, it shouldn't take the doctor to explain what a foul deserving of a red card is to the referee... but then again, the ref obviously doesn't know what it is since he didn't give it, so maybe the doc had a point after all!
Worst article ever. You are hilarious. You'll go far in comedy
ReplyDeleteSo true
ReplyDeleteYou might to want to change your name, for such a clever remark(!) to work
ReplyDeleteWhy should there be more emphasis on the game in general, when there is already another article on it?
ReplyDeleteJK has already made an article about the game, clearly he is focusing on something else. What the physio said only him and the players around know. Either way, Barry should not have manhandled him.
ReplyDeleteFuck off you dirty kopites and stop your constant whining
ReplyDeletewhat a load of BS, the physio tried to influence what card mirallas would get, everton players reacted to that, if any1 should be charged its lfc for failing to control its staff, seems to me that u didnt even watch the game and yr just writing blind or yr just bitter and hey lets not forget what suarez did to mirallas and distin last season hey, what goes around comes around!
ReplyDeleteLaughing so hard at "world class lip reader" - do they have competitions? (And pretty presumptuous on your part to blatantly state I am not, when you do not know me from Adam). It is as plain as the nose on your face, the physio has stuck his oar in where it does not belong. To argue otherwise marks you out as blinded to what is there for all to see. You may not know exactly what was said, but the referee and players reactions tell the story well.
ReplyDeleteThe man has admitted he probably deserved a red, and I believe that the delay in a card coming out, and the physio getting involved by stopping to talk to the ref (recklessly endangering lives whilst doing so!!) stopped that happening.
Seriously, whoever wrote this, get over yourselves.
ReplyDeleteNo the physio shouldn't been manhandled by Barry, but how often does Suarez manhandle other players, kick out at them or even bitten them in the past? And how many articles have you written about those incidents?
ReplyDeleteIf you watch it there was no way Suarez had swallowed his tongue, he was rolling around as though he'd been shot, and yeah I can understand why he was, it was an horrific challenge from Mirallas.
And the physio took his time to get on the pitch so he clearly wasn't that worried about Suarez being in danger of anything fatal.
As a neutral, it was great game to watch, and now we have a PL table with only 4 points between 2nd and 9th, just like the good old pre-greed First Dvision days.
ReplyDeleteAs far as this article goes, and remember I'm neutral where you two are concerned (I'm Spurs - don't laugh too hard!), Mirallas should deffo have been sent off, as should Suarez last year, so maybe what goes around comes around, eh? The physio incident is a red herring (ouch!), there were already others treating Suarez, and like a lot of Blues here have already said, it was only after the physio said something that the Everton players got irked. Take your red-tinted specs off!
Great game, and you'll both finish above my shower!
A players can easily fall awkwardly on the floor as a result of a bad tackle and injure his head and thus have that consequence.
ReplyDelete'but how often does Suarez manhandle other players, kick out at them or even bitten them in the past? And how many articles have you written about those incidents?'
ReplyDeleteClearly a newbie!
Is it ok for a player to get physical after a verbal interference by a physio? Should a player be resorting to a physical act against a physio?
ReplyDeleteDo you know what else I find ridiculous. At Sunday League level the fine for a yellow card is £10 and a red is £25. I think it was in article by "The Secret Footballer" saying that the fine from the FA for a professional footballer is £10 for a yellow and £25 for a red because the FA said it should be the same across the board. Do you know what I say to that? What a load of (excuse my French) shit! Say what 30 years ago they should have been the same.as they were playing for a proper wage but now it's basically the big wigs at the FA just can't be arsed it changing the rules. They only choose the rules that suit them.
ReplyDeleteJaimie, You have written another article - quite reasonably balanced for the most part, in my view - where you argue that Mirallas had intent on his mind, and use some of his post match statement to attempt to illustrate his state of mind (revenge) at the time of the tackle.
ReplyDeleteIt seems somewhat incongruous, therefore, that you are arguing here that the physio's role in this is irrelevant because we don't what he said to the referee to provoke the reaction, and that the only thing we can consider are the facts (i.e. that he was jostled by the Everton players)
Kevin Mirallas has said that he didn't have last year's disgraceful stamp in mind when he tackled Suarez, so that's the end of it, using your rationale - you have no idea what was in his mind.
You can't have it both ways.
Let me ask you this: if you knew that the physio had indeed told the referee that he had seen a replay of the tackle and it merited a straight red - would the Everton players reaction have been justified?
Suarez cud of died der.
ReplyDeleteRevenge tackle... Maybe/maybe not
ReplyDeleteBadly timed... No because he knew what he was doing. No player get's it that wrong with that force to actually cut a players leg.
Red card offence... Agreed
Ref getting it wrong... agreed
Reds all crying about it... Well wouldn't Everton fans be complaining about it? I think they would looking at some of the comments saying what goes around comes around and saying what about Suarez's challenge on him last year the got Mirallas injured?
You should get a t-shirt printed saying "Hypocrite."
Oh and before you say I'm a hypocrite and I have argued time ad time in the past that Suarez is a disgrace to football but a lot of Liverpool fans and really you could extend that to most football fans of being bias and that is including you judging by your comment.
I'd like to answer this one. Unless he is acting out of self-defence, a player should not be getting physical with a physio. Self-defence as in the physio got physical with Barry first. A verbal interference, regardless of how incorrect or wrong the interference is, doesn't justify a physical reaction by Barry.
ReplyDeleteEven if the physio came out after the game like Mirallas and said I told the referee that I had seen the replay and he should be sent off, Barry should still not have done what he did.
Gareth Barry has turned into a dirty little player over the last few years. He's become heavy as he gets older and uses it to his advantage. And not always legally. I thought Stevie was lucky not to get a yellow when he raised his elbow to him in the header, I know a lot of people disagree with that but his arm shouldnt have been in that position. I would have done the same though as you have to take precautions when going into a challenge with certain players.
ReplyDeleteif you take off your red tinted glasses you might see the look of distain that Dowd gives the physio and in my view, it might have even changed his mind about giving Mirallas a red card. So well done that physio for not doing his job and preventing Suarez from swallowing his tongue while he was lying there conscious from a kick in the leg....
ReplyDeletewhat i think is, you're all kopites an that means you're gobshites
ReplyDeleteThe fact he had time to whisper something in the ref's ear proves Suarez wasn't his main concern. Going by the look on Dowd's face,I reckon it was the action of the phyiso that convinced the ref to only give Mirallas a yellow.
ReplyDeletewhy cant anyone insult suarez though hahahaha
ReplyDeleteyes, lets post a wind up article and then ban anyone who takes offence, can you also ban Suarez please?
ReplyDeleteI've never seen a physio being manhandled by player before. Something must have gone on for them to react in such away. Now go and bury your head you blinkered fool.
ReplyDeleteSorry, meant ref. Lost in translation ;)
ReplyDeleteNugget. The physio got involved in something that's none of his business. Take your red glasses off. He said it was a red card. How does he know. Not being a football man. Shut up. You were outplayed. Lucky to get a point. Now jog on.
ReplyDeleteYeah it was disgraceful Jamie, the physio was probably only commenting on what kind of coffin to get Suarez and Barry pushed him under a lorry, Barry should be jailed for that kind of behaviour, or at least have an article written about him.
ReplyDeleteEspecially because Suarez had been kicked in the leg and that is a well known cause of death in football, especially when you are being treated by two other physios and you are sitting up, he could have swallowed his cup cake or something and then Barry would have been charged with murder and hanged, possibly or something like that.
Touching a physio on the field of play is also a criminal offence, especially if they are in the performance of their duty, or talking to a referee, so that's two hangings Barry should have had.
And if it had been the other way round and Suarez had touched an Everton physio I bet he would have been red carded, and banned for 10 games, and deported, and sold to Real Madrid!!!
Its terrible how Everton always get away with everything and we never do anything wrong.
No, the reaction would not have been justified if the physio had indeed said something to the referee. The reasons are obvious.
ReplyDeleteYou stupid kopgobshite....the physio should be charged for making a comment about the tackle to the ref. And while you carry on and on about that tackle, consider it "what goes around comes around" for Suarez dive that got Rodwell wrongly sent off a couple seasons ago.
ReplyDeleteIt's not just Suarez. Personal insults against anyone are outlawed here. This is a place for civil debate, and those who refuse to discuss things like adults will have their posts deleted/edited.
ReplyDeleteAnd what if Suarez was not such a diving dirty git himself? More likely to swallow someone else's arm than his tongue after being bashed on the side of the knee. Oh yes, that's right he's already tried this. Seriously, it was a bad tackle but thats the game. Remember Stevie G on Gary Naismith? I do. Sometimes it's just the heat of the moment and no malice is intended. I think that was the case here. Apology should be made and should be accepted with grace. I thought it was a fantastic game and both sets of players were a credit to the city.
ReplyDeleteFuck off u cunts after last season plus Rodwell aswell the other season watt comes around goes round every time things don't go for u basteds it allways a big the thing red cunts fucking hate u cunts since I was a kid
ReplyDeleteIt does matter though. Nobody other than the captains and other officials are allowed to 'influence' the referee, and he was doing that.
ReplyDeleteSurely if Suarez had actually been in any immediate danger, the physio would be doing his job; not trying to get opposition players sent off like a shithouse.
He shouldn't come over trying to get someone sent off instead of treating his player the fucking gobshite. Give it a rest you bitter twats
ReplyDeleteThere are two separate issues here: what the physio may or may not have said to the ref, and the Everton's players' treatment of the physio. Even if the physio said something, it does not justify *in any way* what Everton's players did! Stop trying to justify the manhandling with such weak excuses. Irrespective of what the physio said, Everton's players had no right to lay their hands on the physio. End of story.
ReplyDeletewhen you say it it's fact but when others say it, it's unbacked supposition, yet you completely lied when you accused the Everton players of blocking the physio from getting to Suarez, back that comment up with proof or go home, you fraud
ReplyDeleteIt is a fact that Gareth Barry manhandled the physio. That is proven by the image, and the video footage of the incident.
ReplyDeleteHave you deleted my post about Barry should be tried for murder and hung for deliberately impeding a physio when he was talking to a referee? and hung again for not allowing the physio to treat a kick in the leg as it is a well known cause of death in footballers? Just checking to see how balanced your reporting is?
ReplyDeleteYeah, you're right. I need to write more articles highlighting Suarez's transgressions, as this is something I've seriously neglected to do in the past.
ReplyDeleteyes, he should be tried for murder then, based purely on that fact
ReplyDeleteWhy the gross exaggeration? It's a matter of principle: physios should not be accosted by opposition players! This applies to all teams, not just LFC. Just because it's wasn't a serious assault doesn't change the issue here.
ReplyDeleteAh right, because it was none of his business it makes it ok for someone to get physical with him?
ReplyDeleteThis is a LFC website, you jog on.
Unbecomming. We just have to wait until the FA shows it is the guardian, and not the provider, of fair play.
ReplyDeleteHi everyone.........look at Jamie K everyone. He's ace him but don't say anything that he doesn't agree with cos he will edit it.
ReplyDeleteWOW what a complete and utter fook knuckle you are lad.
the physio doesn't accost the ref and the Everton players don't accost him, what's good for the goose is good for the gander, he should have done his job,,,,,end of.
ReplyDeleteNot being funny or nothing but Gerrard gets in everyones faces all the time when a Liverpool player is involved in an incident. This is a Derby where both sides go out to win with a everything goes attitude. It's been like this for years and will always be like this. If you haven't already noticed, Yes I'm a Blue but I will agree that a red card should have been shown to Kevin by Dowd and he was a bit of a shit house not to show it. But come on now boys it's over lets concentrate on both Liverpool and Everton finishing well in the Premiership and doing so every season! Rant over.
ReplyDeletewe'll return in 2014 when jamie will doubtless still be wittering on
ReplyDeleteThe Physio thought he would try to influence the ref by having a word about the tackle, his job is to look after an injured player and he should not be allowed to try to influence the ref - COYB ! Better Team on the day and over the last 2 years !
ReplyDeleteDid you actually watch the match? The physio was clearly trying to influence Dowd and suggest that he should send Miralles off. It was at that point that things got heated, and yes he got into it with Barry. It's very easy to take a single image from the event out of context and bend it to suit your own agenda - I'll happily post the image of Stephen Gerrard 'pulling out' of his tackle on Gary Naysmith if you'd like me to demonstrate? Full disclosure, I'm a season ticket holding Evertonian who was at the game, and have watched it, and especially that incident a couple of times now. I'll never defend Miralles' tackle, and fully agree that it should have been a straight red. I'll also agree with your point that physio's should be allowed to treat players without interference. However, your article suggests that Everton players were going out of their way to stop Suarez receiving treatment, which is completely wrong. Further, I'd suggest that it's NOT the physio's place to try and influence a match official, which is exactly what the Liverpool physio was trying to do. And again, I question your exact recollection of the incident as the physio had checked on Suarez and then went to speak to the referee, presumably after he had seen the stud marks in his knee. I'm sure if Suarez had been more seriously hurt, or had stopped breathing, he would have acted immediately rather than address Dowd. Barry clearly took offence at the physio's comments and the situation got heated. There is no defence for Barry getting physical with the physio, but the physio was completely out of order in the first instance. There is no difference between what he did and players waving imaginary cards. Your point about medical staff being allowed to do their job unhindered is completely valid, but you lose all credibility when you present your case in such a hysterical, heavily biased and unfounded argument.
ReplyDeleteyes
ReplyDeleteYou seem a little confused Zelphyius....as well as being one eyed!
ReplyDeleteA hypocrite is someone
who claims or pretends to have certain beliefs about what is right but who behaves in a way that disagrees with those beliefs....that sounds like you rather than the Everton fans you criticise
Wow at Jamie K. Broad vocabulary is no substitution for common sense.
ReplyDeleteTit.
This is what happened !!
ReplyDeletehttps://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-vYEfcJkE5_E/UpNvMWCgdQI/AAAAAAAAARk/3bMdLVhI6lQ/w852-h480-no/dgdf.gif
Haha. Funny stuff :-)
ReplyDeleteWith respect, Suarez was unlikely to have swallowed his tongue but he may well have bitten it off and that could have been really unpleasant - there again ....
ReplyDeleteMind you, thank goodness he recovered so well - I genuinely thought his carreer might have been over, cos he looked in such unbelievable pain.
By the way, notice that Suarez already has AT LEAST two medical staff working on him at that point before the 3rd gets involved with the ref and Barry.
ReplyDeleteWell said mate, short memories on here !
ReplyDeleteShort memories. Jimmy Case, Kuyt, Gerrard....
ReplyDeleteShort memories? Nonsense. After last year's derby, I posted an article specifically slating Suarez for his stamps on Distin and Mirallas:
ReplyDeletehttp://www.liverpool-kop.com/2012/10/luis-suarez-stamp-distin-mirallas-hamann-says-he-should-have-been-sent-off.html
cant you tell the blogger is an lfc fan, mirallas should have been sent off, everton need fining blah blah blah, did you write a blog 12 months ago when suarez injured mirallas with his wild behaviour and I will point out no booking was given to suarez, or when suarez RACIALLY abused evra, maybe even when suarez BIT ivanovic, how about when he punched gonzalo jara in the face when uraguay played chile, and how about gerrards elbow on gareth barry and again no booking given, thought not, agrees mirallas should have been sent off but the ref was waiting to see just how injured suarez was before deciding the punishment and as we all saw he got up pretty quick afterwards, as for the players grabbing the physio i agree bang out of order but he had no place to speak to the ref full stop that is for the captains, keyboard warriors like you who like to stir it up with a pathetic one sided blog are a joke, as you can see i have not been rude or poked fun or even swore but being 1 sided you probably wont like reading a comment that argues back so feel free to delete and keep the discussion of hate against a club going
ReplyDeleteThere was actually one by his side with in about 15 seconds, because all the Liverpool players were trying to influence the ref and creating a scene it took Phil Dowd a minute or so to wave the rest of the staff onto the pitch.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF4kSWnY2Z8
ReplyDeleteYes, I wrote about ALL those incidents you mentioned, so that pretty much negates the bulk of your post. For example, here is he article where I criticised Suarez for his fouls on Mirallas and Distin:
ReplyDeletehttp://www.liverpool-kop.com/2012/10/luis-suarez-stamp-distin-mirallas-hamann-says-he-should-have-been-sent-off.html
He did post it on Liverpool-Kop.com ;) Was you expecting a fair and honest review of the situation? They never fail to let us down ;) lol
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