1/18/2013 09:50:00 am

Klopp criticises Rodgers for misusing Nuri Sahin. Fair?

Last week, Brendan Rodgers did a Rafa Benitez and dumped a player less than six months after joining the club. Now back at Borussia Dortmund, Nuri Sahin suffered the same ignominious fate as Robbie Keane, and in both instances, Liverpool ended up wasting significant amounts of money. The Reds were unbeaten in 12 out of 13 games with Sahin in the team, but this cut no ice with Rodgers, and Dortmund manager Jurgen Klopp has criticsed the Reds boss for failing to utilise Sahin in the most effective manner.

Speaking to ESPN on the day of Sahin's return to the Bundesliga, Klopp - who has guided Dortmund to consecutive Bundesliga titles - revealed that he'd been in 'regular contact with Sahin throughout his time at Liverpool, and indirectly blamed Rodgers for the for the ultimate failure of the Turk's loan spell. He said:

"Nuri is a great player. I don't know what Liverpool manager Brendan Rodgers plans to do with him, but fielding him in the number ten position is not the best solution in my opinion"

Having managed Sahin successfully in the past, Klopp clearly knows what he's talking about. Indeed, it's slightly worrying that Rodgers - a coach with 20 years experience (as he likes to remind everyone) - repeatedly played Sahin out of position, even though he must've known that his natural position is deep-lying midfielder.

I still can't get my head around it:

- Why sign Sahin just to consistently play him out position?
- Did BR even have a plan, or did he just sign Sahin because he's a 'name' player?
- Was Sahin's purchase a panic-buy?
- When Sahin joined LFC, he described himself thus:

"I am a central midfielder who loves to have the ball. I'm not the type of player who dribbles past three or four players and then shoots at goal. I'm more of a tactical and technical player. I like to organise, I love it when my team is tactically at a very high level, can play one or two-touch and play football"

This sounds like the archetypal Brendan Rodgers player, yet for some reason, he didn't fit in at LFC.

- Sahin is (apparently) not good enough for Liverpool - currently 8th in the league table - but he *is* good enough for the reigning Bundesliga champions. Why is that?

- Sahin's record at LFC: P12 W6 D6 L1. The only game the team lost was his debut against Arsenal. How exactly do these stats reconcile with the fan contention that Sahin couldn't hack it in the Premier League? He only made 7 appearances anyway - how is that enough time to really get settle?

Still, Sahin seemingly has no regrets about the experience. After re-signing for Dortmund, he told Reporters:

"I have matured as a player after playing alongside the best players in my position. Xabi Alonso when I was at Real Madrid, but especially Steven Gerrard at Liverpool - even though I didn't get to play a lot with him."

Jaimie Kanwar





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98 Comments :

yahoo-X5CX25AU3ROVDAHOAWU2IX7DHI said...

His getting rid of Sahin was a very foolish thing to do.

Siavash said...

No doubt a great talent wasted
However one aspect of his game was clearly worrying and that was, his OBVIOUS lack of speed. I think that was decisive in his dismissal.

Mfimfi said...

well said. there are some people who would say why does he moan when played out of position? Well play reina as a striker then shall we!! We should have our best 11 out in their strongest positions.

Greg | Liverpool Kopites said...

I still don't understand why BR made such a big effort to convince him to join us and not Arsenal, and then 'gave up' on him so quickly. He might not have been that impressive during the few times he played but he hardly got a sustained run to get into the thick of things, especially for a player new to the Premier League. Could be some truth in those rumours that he wasn't in Gerrard's good books. That last remark certainly sounded like a shot at him ;P

anteater said...

When played in the number six position for us, Sahin looked as if he wasn't suited for the job required of him. He looked better further up the pitch.

SA_Red said...

it's only foolish if we don't get a replacement... The Sneijder must be taken!

Jason Carr said...

maybe hes not good enough for lfc because they are two different managers ones a successful well spoken achiever the other is brendon rodgers

Greg | Liverpool Kopites said...

What've you got against BR? He's got 20 years in the game and learned from the likes of Mourinho.

Mfimfi said...

Another JC gem, lol ;-)

Jason Carr said...

and your point being he mite have 20 years in the game so what there are managers in the lower leagues who will have 30 years experience dose not mean there going to be the next lfc manager dose it ,

Eric said...

He never played because his golden boy had to play. Rodgers thought he could use Sahin as a bit part player and expect him to be happy with being behind Allen in the pecking order. It was Heskey vs Fowler all over again. Now he'll show us what we're missing at Dortmund. The sooner Rodgers leaves the better. He's not the only one who knows how to play total football.

Greg | Liverpool Kopites said...

He's lasting longer than the current England boss!

Septimus_severus said...

Let me ask you all a question:

Who would you rather have managing Liverpool FC ...JURGEN KLOPP or BRENDAN ROGERS?

Second Question: Which Manager has the most experience with INTERNATIONAL quality players, JURGEN KLOPP or BRENDAN ROGERS?

The reason that I believe that Sahin was moved on was because GERRARD even though he is still a great player, refused to accept Sahin.

I watched the early Europa round of games where Sahin was played in his favorite position, he scored tow goals and we all agreed he was a fine prospect.

What happened? Well I suspect SENIOR PLAYER POWER got in the way.
I saw the game where Gerrard refused to pass to Sahin, it was obvious then as it is now.

As much as I really appreciate Gerrard, he's going to become a MAJOR problem when he needs to be removed from the first team.
Rogers IS NOT STRONG ENOUGH to drop Gerrard the only Managers who would have dropped him and got away 'got away with it' are Dalglish and Benitez.

Now we have a weak manager in that although he's in charge of the team he's not in control.
I'm starting to have deep concerns about his appointment as Manager and I'm less convinced than I was last August on his appointment and ability to turn the clubs fortunes.
I hope I'm wrong but he's not shown the fight I want to see from a LFC manager.

He doesn't stand up to Ferguson, he doesn't stand up senior players in our team.
Brendan is far too busy being nice and not making enemies.

No other fans really deeply despise Brendan which to me means he's NO THREAT.
 

Eric said...

To answer your questions, Jurgen Klopp. Second of all, if Gerrard was the problem, why would Sahin say that he enjoyed playing with him? He could have just said nothing about Gerrard. The problem is that Sahin needs to play in the position Allen plays in and Rodgers obiously could not bench him. A midfield of Sahin behind Gerrard and Shelvey would have worked fine. Just as well as a midfield of Sahin and Henderson behind Gerrard or Shelvey.

Jason Carr said...

he his yes but his record is worse than hodgesons ,so why his he still in a job when roys results were not exceptable

Gabranth said...

It's the same problem that's plagued LFC for years. Getting great players and then playing them out of position.

Mfimfi said...

good point, why are fans more accepting of BR's tenure over RH?

Jason Carr said...

yes sahin has no obligation to say anything about gerrard let alone anything posotive so i do not think gerrard was the problem

Jason Carr said...

its nice to be appreciated lol;-)

anteater said...

Entirely different style of play maybe.

Eric said...

Because people are so underwhelmed with Kenny's first full season in charge that they're buying into this we need time to rebuild and get used to the system rubbish.

Eric said...

Or having great players, like Fowler and then benching them in favour of Emile Heskey.

Jason Carr said...

as it as been said the football is better under rodgers but imo not as good as under kd 

Jason Carr said...

its managers trying to be too clever for there own good ,i sometimes think some managers are more interested in trying to prove a point and that they no best,than getting results for the team

anteater said...

Did you know that J├╝rgen Klopp had won nothing at all when he was hired at Dortmund? Well, that's not entirely true. He had won promotion followed by relegation a few years later. Dortmund then decided to take a chance on an, what they thought, up and coming young manager. It took him a while to get Dortmund going (didn't happen in his first season and didn't happen in his second season, either), but he relied heavily on the clubs youth products. Dortmund missed out on European competitions in Klopp's first season at the club, but finished fifth in his second season. Guess that had Dortmund fans been as impatient as some of our fans, they would have made sure that he'd left the club half-way through his first year there.

OriginalChan said...

He needed time and a decent run of games, like all new players do but didn't get that.  Very disappointing with the way things have turned out, in relation to this deal. I didn't see the point in getting him in the first place, if Allen was coming, unless Rodgers, for whatever reason, genuinely believed that Sahin could do a good job in the attacking mid role. But even then, he was on loan, i.e., here for the short term, so bit reckless to try and change his position in such a short time. Not sure what Rodgers was playing at, in relation to Sahin. Waste of money.

anteater said...

Or to have experienced players who fired you out of relegation trouble the season before, like Maxi and Kuyt, and benching them in favour of Downing and Henderson (who didn't exactly convince last season).

Pastor of Muppets said...

Rodgers likes for his central mids to rotate around the middle of the park. It is also why Henderson seems to fit so well and has become a necessary component of it, because he is a grafter who will cover for either of the other 2 in the middle of the park with him. 


Unfortunately, during the holding phase of the play, both Lucas and Allen tend to occupy similar positions and play too similarly, allowing the other team to hem us in, especially if they double on Allen to force a sloppy back pass.

And then there is also the issue of being short of experienced forwards and Sahin being one of the few with enough sense to arrive in the box to meet the final delivery.

Kopiguni said...

So Jaimie. Do u still think the mediocre BR is the man to lead us to success? IMHO he is fasting showing his lack of real stuff...sadly so many so believe he is the next fergie or shank...

Eric said...

Downing hasn't convinced this season either. He's had a few half decent performances but that doesn't wash out a full season of rubbish and, at best, inconsistent performance this season.

Eric said...

Did he also feed his one star player to the wolves during his first season to make himself look good? Did he also insist on only signing players he worked with at his former club? Did he also spend 40 million on players?

Kopiguni said...

Oh seeing the comment abt Allen favorited over sahin, it is so true. BR done that for Allen, shelvey on more than several occasions when they did not play well. How to commit to a manager when he does not treat everyone fairly?

FdotM said...

IMO Rogers was/is still out of his depth at Liverpool. I support him 100% nonetheless as I have faith in the project but some of his dealings have been poor.

Why pay a reported £3M loan fee + 90K a week for wages for a top class player when he is not going to play? I mean what the heck? It's not like he has a ready replacement for him! We let go of Cole and Sahin so I expect us to sign Sneijder!

He scored 3 goals in two games yet BR did not play him.

When it comes to transfer BR is not doing a good job.

I mean Allen for £15M, Borini for £10.5M!!! Really BR! Come on Son! 

Septimus_severus said...

 R U comparing Jurgen Klopp to Brendan Rogers  in terms of experience and handling of International Players?
Might at add that he is credited with major advances in the German national and domestic teams.
Brendan Rogers is NOT in that league he may well get there but as it stands now he's not , he's a GAMBLE.

FdotM said...

Yessss!

FdotM said...

It shows doesn't it?

anteater said...

I, too, was very surprised that squawka put him 12th in the top 50 English players they've published the other day. Don't get me wrong, Downing hasn't exactly convinced me, but there must be something to his play that we might just fail to see.

FdotM said...

Facerub was an insult to the Anfield faithful.

anteater said...

This is what I am talking about:
http://blog.squawka.com/2013/01/16/fa150-top-50-english-pl-players-in-201213-so-far-20-11-features-manchester-united-arsenal-liverpool/

We can debate all day long whether their means to assess the performances of players are more suited than say 1 to 10 ratings made by fans, but it is, at least, an interesting approach.

Greg | Liverpool Kopites said...

Because he managed a british barcelona tikka takka but to be honest I don't see much of a difference in the play between now and last season except that we don't seem to create as many chances now.

Gabranth said...

What I don't understand is that the manager admits they've got a small squad, so why not rotate some of these players in? 

Pcoleman said...

Did you watch the game Sahin played in? He did not play in 90% of these games (maybe West Brom he did play well). Weather its fitness or whatever I don't think he was ever going to be signed so why keep him at the club? Was right decision to get him off the wage bill IMO. THis comparing to BD and how he is good enough for them is ridiclous. Top players fit in at different club and systems in different ways...some work some don't....

Gabranth said...

Not everyone is going to get equal playing time. That said, there's a few players that deserved chances given given the team's recent poor display.

Jason Carr said...

rodgers has signed 5 players in the short time he has been here ,1 has already gone assadi looks like he has no future at the club either borini and allen were vastley overpriced sturridge who knows time will tell

FdotM said...

Klopp over BR anyday of the week mate, anyway.

BR has helped with the coaching of great players at Chelsea but did not manage them. Klopp has! Any of their player would get on our squad!

I agree with you that I think BR is lightweight! I wish we had gone for Van Gaal as I can guarantee you he would not have any of the nonsense that has happened.

And I also agree that it will be hard for a manager to drop Gerrard. See Benitez? Dropped one of Chesea's all time goalscorers in Lampard who is still a class player.

Benitez has brass balls unlike BR. SG has been average this season bar a few games. Normally, we tend to do well when SG is not playing recently.

I say it's time to start thinking ahead, and for goodness do not play Gerrard as MC, playing as an AMC.

anteater said...

I didn't know Rodgers had worked with Sturridge before. Was BR a coach at Man City, too. Didn't know it, honestly, my bad.

Which player did Rodgers feed to the wolves?

Did Klopp spend that much money. Guess not, because Dortmund were pretty close to bankruptcy a few years before he'd joined.

Gabranth said...

Some (maybe most) of the blame should be going to the scouts and personnel dealing with transfer details. How can most teams get established players for cheap (ie. Newcastle and Debuchy (5.5m)) while we overpay for unproven talent. 

FdotM said...

Downing is average. And then after 1 good performance BR changes his mind saying he see's him at Anfield for many years...Pshhh!

Gabranth said...

I also don't mind the BR signings as I understand because it makes sense to work with players you've had experience with before. I do mind how much the club paid to get them though.

Mfimfi said...

Really?!! Its a crazy world lol, who was 11th and 13th just out of interest?

anteater said...

No, I just wanted to show that other teams, too, appoint managers who are not considered world-class managers at the time of the appointment.

As for handling international players, Klopp's Mainz team wasn't exactly littered with such kind of players. They've had some Georgian internationals if I remember correctly.

Klopp, too, was a gamble at the time. That is one of my points.

FdotM said...

I think he will learn from his mistakes (hopefully). I am more excited about the project (academy, youth players in the 1st team etc...) than our actual manager.

But I still think he is the man for the job although I would love Guardiola here.

anteater said...

Theo Walcott and Leon Osman.

Jason Carr said...

agree last year i was always confident that at some stage if we put our chances away we would give some teams a real hiding,this year i will except any result,

FdotM said...

Agreed Jason. Still think Borini might come useful though. And I think Allen needs to play further up.

Assaidi is a mystery to me. Honestly.

Gabranth said...

I like BR's tactical approach. Great idea, but from what we've seen  in the season so far, he doesn't seem to have the right players to use it with. 

Jason Carr said...

because as it stands this season we need every point we can get to even hope of a europa league spot so every game as become a must win game if we do not quallify for europe next year we will be totally f"ck

FdotM said...

I have a really good scout shortlist on my Football Manager 13 saved game. Could send it to BR ;0P

Eric said...

At Chelsea no? Or did he leave Chelsea before they signed Sturridge? Suarez was obviously fed to the wolves. To come out and say he will deal with Suarez internally suggests that there is anything wrong with what Suarez said or did and that he doesn't approve of it. That may be so but he sure as hell approved of it before Suarez admitted to taking a dive at Stoke.

Eric said...

There are lies, damned lies and statistics :-)

anteater said...

Sturridge joined Chelsea in 2009, Rodgers left Chelsea in 2008.

To come out and say he will deal with Suarez internally suggest nothing at all, but that he won't discuss anything in public. Maybe he simply tells Suarez to not be so honest in the future in public in order to prevent negative headlines as the media in Britain will only pick on small pieces of an interview, whichever suits them.

anteater said...

Like the statistic that Downing didn't score or create a single assist in the league last season?

Gabranth said...

True but if the main starting eleven isn't cutting it then surely we've got to give the likes of assaidi and suso more run outs since the worst they can do is continue the poor form we're in.

anteater said...

If I remember it correctly we've qualified for the Europa League in Rafa's last season simply (and solely) because Portsmouth went into administration.

One question I'd like to ask is: Didn't you up until recently argue that we need every point to avoid relegation? Now you argue that we need every point to qualify for the Europa League. That is an improvement, isn't it. And in such a short period of time.

Jason Carr said...

imo allen has not got the vision or the skill to play further forward ,assaidi has been to lightwieght and unproductive on the few chances hes had,but do agree they have been very few chances,and borini,how many clubs has he had over the past few seasons hes had more than tiger woods,so i really do not see much of a future at lfc for him

anteater said...

Rodgers didn't work at Leverkusen either, to be honest.

He has worked with Allen and Borini before, but he hasn't worked with Sturridge, Sahin and Yesil. That hardly convinces me that your claim, that he is "only signing players he worked with at his former club" is true. I actually am pretty sure that your statement is wrong.

Jason Carr said...

rodgers has an uncanny knack of winning a game just when he needs to otherwise the clamour for him to leave would be much more vocal

Septimus_severus said...

 Brendan Rogers IS NOT a world class manager.Nor has he demonstrated thus far that he has the attributes to be one.
Shankley he's not Clough he's not,Mourinhio he's not Guardiola he's not.
You getting the picture here? see the correlation between good and great?

Kopiguni said...

It's ironic the same ppl who said we can't judge BR in 6 months believe that Sahin is judged to be a poor fit in 6 months (not even including that he was benched for a huge part of the 6 months). Can we expect Lucas to play well if we move him to advanced midfield? This whole deal just highlight the lack of tactical acumen or I believe showing favoritism to his favourites. Did u see how he loves Allen calling him his Welsh Xavi? We should have seen this coming when all he looks for are his ex players? Ppl slammed King Kenny for insisting to play Downing n Caroll but at least the reason is not becoz they r his fav.

anteater said...

Not sure whether Shankly was considered a world class manager at the age of 40, or if anyone thought that he had demonstrated the attributes to be one. I really don't know, as my mother was one year old back then. What I do know though is that Shankly managed Grimsby Town (then third tier) at the time.

Mourinho he ain't true, but Mourinho probably wouldn't consider taking over a club that has finished well outside the top four in the past three or four seasons. The same goes for Guardiola.

Jason Carr said...

double standards indeed some people have almost took the notion of rodgers being a football immortal,and swallowed it hook line and sinker the man could get us relagated and some fans would think it was part of his master plan to rule the world with tikka takka

Kopiguni said...

And pls for the person who compared this with Robbie. Robbie was signed against Rafa's wish. Rafa had just kept to his usual practice to axe players whom he no longer wanted quickly. Not defending Rafa as I still can't get over him causing Xabi to leave us. If we thought Woy was short sighted to sign PK, I can't see why we r not feeling the same for BR. Out of 4 players signed, 3 were his ex players. For god sake, there r so many in the world but he can only see these.

Jaimie K said...

Oh my days - people *still* peddling the 'Benitez didn't want Keane' myth, which has been debunked by Benitez himself?! *shoots self*

Septimus_severus said...

You mean like when Mourinhio took over Benfica at age 36? or Guardiola at Barca B age 36?
Or Clough at 36 managing Derby? On top of that they IMPOSED themselves on there teams, no player INCLUDING MESSI would challenge Guardiola. Brendan as he is NOW is not in that league

Eric said...

He could have said that Suarez should be commended for his honesty. He could have said that it's all part of the game these days and that all players try to get ahead and that it annoys him that the media insist on picking on one player when they leave others untouched. He could have said that if the other team doesn't want to play football and makes it impossible for you to do so by playing like ordinary thugs, you need to resort to similar tactics to get something out of the game. But in stead of all that, he gave people the impression or at least the opportunity to form the impression that he thinks Suarez has done something wrong and that they are justified to carry on their witch hunt.

anteater said...

No, I mean what I wrote. One thing I wrote was "Mourinho he ain't true", probably forgot to put a comma in their. Then I continued to say that "the same goes for Guardiola".

Brendan can't win. Whatever he does will be perceived as wrong by some fans. We probably should have never hired a young up and possibly coming manager. With the fan-base we have, nothing but a manager who will win 8 out of his first 10 matches will do. Some of our fans expect instant success and I for one think that this attitude won't help us at all, as there won't be any instant success. It even took Man City a bit of time to get where they want, despite spending huge amounts of money.

Eric said...

Sahin was offered to him by Mourinho so there is very much a link there. The point is, he doesn't look beyond the tip of his nose for players. Yesil he stumbled across during pre-season. The only player you could argue was scouted properly is Assaidi and for some reason he has hardly had a look in.

anteater said...

Oh, Jaimie has shot himself. None of the comments currently under moderation will ever be published then.

Eric said...

Frank de Boer he's not

Eric said...

Yes. And then there was all the other impressive stuff he did...

Eric said...

He shushed the fans, nuff said.

anteater said...

 Out of four players signed, three were his ex players? Would you please name those three.

As far as I know, out of six players signed, two were his ex-players (Allen and Borini). Sturridge was at Man City when Rodgers was at Chelsea, Sahin was never before at any club that Rodgers worked for. The same goes for Yesil and Assaidi. Two out of six, not three out of four. Big difference! Some people may like Rodgers, some hate him, some are indifferent, and many other options, but at least be so fair and don't twist reality to make it fit you argument.

anteater said...

I almost forgot Assaidi, whom Rodgers hasn't worked with before. Our of six signings, two have worked with Rodgers before. But never mind, people will still claim that he insists in only signing players he worked with before.

Jay said...

I thought Sahin was given a deeper role in most of his starts for us, as he certainly wasn't playing the role expected of a typical no. 10/attacking midfielder. 

Tbh, Shelvey seems to be only one that sticks to his AM role when handed the position, but he just doesn't have the necessary technical ability. When Allen, Henderson and Sahin were handed the position, we just were left with massive gaps in behind the striker. I just don't understand why the position isn't handed back to Gerrard, who has proven himself to be world class in the position...

anteater said...

None of which I can remember.

anteater said...

Well, if you want to argue like this, I will give you a helping hand. So Sahin was signed from a club whose manager worked with Rodgers before. Yesil was signed from a club whose manager used to play for us. And finally Assaidi is a player the club our arguably best player used to play for was interested in, too.

Neither do I want to attack nor defend our scouting department, but you'd force me to find a link to our club or our manager to the players they have signed, I may find one for the last 100 signings we did (please don't force me, I don't have that much time on my hand).

Septimus_severus said...

I'm not throwing in the towel on Rogers, but his learning on the job is not helping.

anteater said...

Yes, he could have said that. And what would have happened next? My guess would be that we'd get more negative headlines for the boss making excuses for a cheat/racist/low life (this does not necessarily represent what I think about Suarez, only what I think some of the media make him appear. It is possible that some of this is self-inflicted by Suarez).

As I've said on another thread, Rodgers can't do anything right. Whatever he does, some people will find a way to blame him for it.

By the way, I actually think it is correct if our manager gives the impression that diving is wrong.

Theycallmemrburt said...

Sahin was never going to stay.  He looked gutted when he signed for us in his early interviews and it was clear he was never going to make the deal permanent even if he had a good season with us.  His heart is with Madrid. 

It makes sense to me to send him back, dispense with Cole and THEN bring in someone who is arguably the most creative midfielder on the planet on his day on a permanent basis.  It would be foolish to miss out on the permanent signing of Sneijder when it was pretty clear Sahin saw his future at Real Madrid.

banoog said...

I don't believe we should be critical of BR for bringing Sahin to Anfield. Sahin is a young guy with pedigree. Well respected in football terms and with potential. He is exactly the kind of player we should endeavour to bring to Anfield. When such a purchase doesn't work out, its sad, but at least they tried. Fans won't be critical if you bring quality their way.
What we will be critical of is blatant misuse of quality players. What does Sahin's departure say about Sahin and what does it say about Rodgers? Is Sahin not good enough for us, was his attitude bad? We all know the former isn't true. If his attitude was bad, then what is the role of the manager? BR put's himself forward as this intelligent, educated, revolutionary who's had experience progressing all levels of players over 20 years in his industry. I would ask not necessarily why BR was not able to get the best out of Sahin, but why he didn't allow his methods and ability to educate (which he lauds vociferously) time to help Sahin develop?

Sahin's departure makes me question BR's ability to coach more than it makes me question Sahin's credentials. Assaidi seems to be heading out the door also, which only reinforces my view. Although his purchase also makes me question the quality of the scouting and decision to buy.

billythecat said...

we need europe and when we get it we send out a2nd xl. always pick your strogest team in every game .this fella does t. is sturridge ok for europa lge?

lowey said...

who cares, am i missing something like he was the next gerrard or messi or even jo cole!!! 
knowing full facts would be great!!

Liverpool For Me said...

The real problem is that Brendan Rodgers is clueless . Liverpool should not wait for him to mess up even further . The lower we drop the less likely we are to attract star talent and the more likely we are to lose players like Suarez.

Brendan does not know what total football is . Liverpool were much better under KD . Under Brendan Liverpool look sterile . Not saying we rehire KD but Brendan just aint cutting it.

 We were better earlier in the season and deserved to beat both Man City and Arsenal . Games we drew and Lost . But Liverpool were the better team in both those early games. As the season progress Breandan's stamp and influence is more prevalent on the team . Unfortunately its totally sterile . Liverpool dont even look like a fluent passing team . Yet Brendan claims that is his game.

Liverpool For Me said...

No you not missing something , you are missing a lot ! Liverpool fans care

Xxcell2010 said...

Strange act, I'm still scratching my head over this loan deal. Sahin looks like a decent player and he should be able to help LFC. We always say Bundesliga is not as competitive as EPL. But what are the chances that LFC can beat Dortmund hands down, now? If he is not good, how can Arsene Wenger be interested in signing him? Arsene Wenger is the grand master in the transfer market. More importantly, LFC must not give the football world that idea it will force out players on-loan after 1/2 season, playing only handful of games and out of position. What the heck are we thinking???

Jay said...

We didn't deserve anything against Arsenal - that was one of our worst performances of the season

Liverpool For Me said...

You must have been watching another match

Mikkel01 said...

No matter what people say in the comments here! Brendan knew what he was doing and he would have made a good player out of Sahin if he wasnt such a sissy girl.

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