16 May 2012

Official: Kenny Dalglish leaves Liverpool...

After three days of furious speculation, it's official: Kenny Dalglish has left his job as Liverpool manager.

Dalglish was due to go on holiday today, and it looks like it's going to be a permanent holiday after FSG decided he was no longer the right man to lead the club forward.

The club is expected to release a statement some time in the next few hours.

It's sad to see a club legend leave, but given Liverpool's woeful league form this season, there was no other option but to replace Dalglish.

Over a month ago, I warned that Dalglish faced the sack, and illustrated why it would probably happen in the following post:

Red Sox Collapse: Why Dalglish could soon be sacked by ruthless FSG

UPDATE 1: I've been reliably informed that Dalglish turned down a a different role at the club and want to stay in charge, which was a no-go, hence his departure.

UPDATE 2: Worryingly, Steve Clarke is currently 8-1 fourth-favourite to take over from Dalglish (!) Maybe that's why he was at the Red Sox-Mariners game with Henry and Werner the other night? #NOOOOOOOOOO!

UPDATE 3: Dalglish's daughter, Kelly Cates, reacts: 'Devastated for Dad but incredibly proud of the job he's done'

On a related noted: This is how the Official LFC website announced KD's departure:

Liverpool Kenny Dalglish

Slightly disrespectful to refer to KD by his surname only, no?

REMINDER: Any poster abusing/insulting/belittling Dalglish will be permanently banned.

Jaimie Kanwar


80 comments:

  1. i think he'll have learnt from the past, and lets remember, he was always pushing for the best for LFC, not for himself.
    A times journo, tony evans, claims Rafa will not be invited back..which is bad news imo, cause we are not going to get a top top name like pep, and someone like martinez would be too risky. as we all know, the pressure of being at LFC is huge, and rafa thrives under pressure. 

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  2. I am gutted for Kenny, at least he will get a good pay off. It's a sad, sad day

    The owners have exercised their right, to protect their investment whatever way they see fit, they now face the most important decision in the club's history...... Get it wrong and "we" could flounder for years, and they won't get a return

    Anybody recommending Loew, Blanc, Deschamps etc can't possibly be basing their opinions on their own insight. Try using your own judgement instead of regurgitating what you see on Skybet

    The only candidate that seems a realistic target for me at the moment is Brendan Rodgers. His team have been a revelation this year.

    Is Rafa a possibility? I doubt these owners will worry about fans sentiment, so I don't think so - by fans, I mean match going fans who buy season tickets and travel to away games. These fans still backed Kenny

    Therefore I don't buy into the inevitability of Rafa's return

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  3. chibuzo akobundu7:05 pm, May 16, 2012

    Just to so my comment below this one is not misunderstood . I do respect Kenny Daglish , and a lot of people really like him.  I just don't didn't like him as manager. Liverpool managerial job should go to the best man for the job based on what he can bring to the table, and not to the most famous servant of the club based on what he has done in the past

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  4. Narrow minded xenophobic so called "fan"...

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  5. chibuzo akobundu7:12 pm, May 16, 2012

    Yeah people like Gerrard and Carragher, and Kuyt, and any other veteran player who's playing days are numbered want immediate success while they are still able to kick a ball.

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  6. And how do you explain Downing, Henderson and Adam as they'd signed for LFC after Dalglish already had his contract? 

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  7. So the fans who cannot afford to travel to Anfield but buy LFC merchandise and replicata shirts don't count?

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  8. after reading this article there is a line that says any posters  abusing/insulting/belittling dalglish will be permanently banned your having a laugh have you not been doing that all season jamie k.king kenny your were and always will be the king no matter what these fools say ynwa 

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  9. chibuzo akobundu7:30 pm, May 16, 2012

    Couldn't say it better than you. What Kenny failed to realize was that as manager of a big time club he was always under the microscope. Not everyone has the freedom of Sir Alex or Wenger. When Kenny attacked the media openely in those press conferences he was did more damage to his career than he could have ever realized. His lack of composure must have been a major source of embarrasment to the owners and add a poor league form and it spelled  doom for Kenny Daglish

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  10. chibuzo akobundu7:34 pm, May 16, 2012

    i don't think Steve Clarke could lead a hooker to bed let alone coach a big club like Liverpool. He too like Daglish did alot of learning on the job and unfortunately it cost them too much

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  11. Neo - lfc ynwa7:43 pm, May 16, 2012

    Devastated with the King gone..to think if only we had scored half our shots that hit the woodwork and half the penalties we missed the king would still be manager and liverpool would have collected an extra 10-15 pts meaning challenging for the top 4 if not gettin back in there...ynwa king kenny..as for our next manager i think we should look at Joachim Low or Carlo Ancelotti..i think either would be good for the club instead of some the names already being linked..my fellow fans thoughts on these candidates???

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  12. I'm sure you'll agree that watching football live allows the observer to have a greater insight than watching it on TV?

    There is no comparison.

    There is also a difference between local, match going fans with a generational link to the club than blow ins like me, who support the team because it was fashionable 25 years ago.

    Try talking to someone who can recall standing on a heaving KOP singing the then number 1 pop song after grafting on the docks for the night, waiting for Roger Hunt and co to come out. Nowadays their sons and grandsons are there in their place.

    Jersey sales, top 4 finish with economic benefits that come with it mean nothing to me really. Football is about winning stuff, would a perpetual top 4 finish with no silverware for next 10 years satisfy you? Not me.

    Football used to be about glory. Medals. We won something, nearly won FA cup also. It was exciting. Got me out of my chair when Carroll almost equalised. It felt good to be excited by football again.

    Man City and Chelsea have money to burn, thanks to their owners. We can never compete with them unless we get super lucky, in terms of perfect cohesion between new manager and team, combined with perfect transfers. One factor in our favour is our youth teams look good.

    I am disillusioned. A legend has been shafted today by people who don't understand football. Stats and numbers and return on investment.

    We only won 5 home games, drew 9 and lost 4. These 9 draws and the loss to Arsenal were mostly undeserved. Fans at those games know it, but even they are dispensable now. Let's just fill the stadium with day trippers ala Old Trafford

    In summary, to answer your question, I would place more value on fans who travel to games than ones who watch it on TV if Sky happen to be covering it

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  13. You definately need a rest

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  14. Who are we going to support now that King Kenny has been sacked.

    We owe the king everything and out of loyalty we will not support Liverpool.

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  15. The guys who own Liverpool will make a decision based purely on commercials.

    I don't think they will try to appease anyone, based on today's decision.

    Top 4 mediocrity will satisfy them. The only glory we will experience is the CL theme music from time to time.

    Vast cash reserves are required to win PL. Our only realistic goal is domestic cups, maybe Europa League.

    I'm gutted with today's news. Although the writing was on the wall with all the other dismissals.

    Football, as it used to be, died with the birth of the Premier League. Think I'll get back to League of Ireland matches...

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  16. chibuzo akobundu8:07 pm, May 16, 2012

    oh hold it a second conspiracy theorists. I don't think these players mentioned below by mali341 decided one day in a late night strategy session to stick it to King Kenny. Kenny has had a hard time taking responsibility for anything bad that happened under his watch, and in the same token his biggest fans can't blame King Kenny for the poor performance of the team. Couldn't it be that Kenny due to a long absence from high level foot-ball got it wrong on his take on what a talented player should be. It is in-line with what i keep saying that Kenny Daglish just couldn't read the mordern game. He came in and stuck with a formula that worked for him years ago but not as effective today. This has nothing to do with his age , but his lack of a modern take on the game. So to conspiracy wack jobs every where KD did it to himself. No top club in Europe that is ambitious would have kept him on.         

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  17. He should have been sacked when he signed Carroll for 35m

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  18. chibuzo akobundu8:28 pm, May 16, 2012

    in all honesty those players do need to be thrown to the wolves and a new set brought in. The owners wanted to rebuild the squad they just started at the top with kenny. I suspect that the club just wants to clean up all the dead wood. Every body will have to prove themselves all over again. No more special treatment for Carrol or Henderson. No longer will a hat-trick hero (maxi) from last season not play while misfiring players start before him. It is a level playing field and i hope that only the best players will get to start.

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  19. chibuzo akobundu8:36 pm, May 16, 2012

    I am having a good laugh at the office. Really? Rafa Benitez got the owners at FSG to fire Daglish? I have now seen it all. I can't thank you enough for making my day. I needed a good laugh.

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  20. jamie k got his wish all year has been putting crap up on this site hes no true red ynwa

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  21. Absolute nonsense, no club is FORCED to take a manager onboard...

    Look, we have just been through a season and a half of up's and down's with Kenny who was the fans choice....

    FFS when are we ever goping to grow some fcuking balls as a cLub and start doing whats best for the Club instead of bowing to the fans.... because lets face it the fans have been getting it wrong for decades now....

    I WILL NEVER ACCEPT RAFA BACK AT THE CLUB. Period.

    I will fight his re appointment and NEVER GIVE UP THAT FIGHT...whether the battle's lost or won.....

    4 YEARS WITHOUT A TROPHY UNDER RAFA..

    1 TROPHY FOR KENNY THIS SEASON AND HE IS SACKED....

    FSG should think very VERY carefully about how they wish to proceed from here on in....

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  22. rafa is beyond learning....he is a genius, a genius doesn't need to learn anything, didn't you know that?

    Its for everyone else to learn from him....

    Note the sarcasm....

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  23. Why? He had A DAY to get a replacement for the ladyboy.

    I remember we all thought it was genius at the time, and it sure softened the blow of our hero walking out on us. The money didn't matter.

    Hindsight is a wonderful thing.

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  24. chibuzo akobundu9:20 pm, May 16, 2012

    Really? "No manager can equal Daglish's man management and motivational skills." How long have you been drinking mate? Time to put that bottle down.  You don't have to look very far to see a manager by name of Roberto Di Matteo at Chelsea turning that team around. Most people didn't believe they would beat Barcalona in the champions league but they did. I think that shows good tactics and good management skills. In all honesty I don't think a Liverpool team under Daglish could beat Barcalona in two rounds.

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  25. I can't. I know nothing.

    How can you explain players freezing when they get to a bigger club?

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  26. You probably said the exact same thing when Dalglish took over from Hodgson!

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  27. chibuzo akobundu9:28 pm, May 16, 2012

    well said.

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  28. Redderthebetter9:28 pm, May 16, 2012

    No one is bigger than the club, Kenny's words. Time ran out for the man and in order to compete we needed top four to attract players at the highest level and therefore push on towards the ultimate goal of winning the league and european cups. It's sad to see him go but its about success and our league form stank to high heaven. Kenny is and always will be a Legend, a run of bad form cost him his job but his reputation is untarnished. I wish him every success as he truly deserves it. Whoever the new manager is we must all support him and show all the others that we are not the chavs. We are LFC. YNWA

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  29. With you all the way on this one! Although my first season was 1974, I moved away in 1978 to just North of London, but I still cadged my way to see the mighty Reds, wherever they played. I still do to this day. If Norwegians can make games at Anfield, then there is NO excuse for 'fans' from these shores, not to get to games, home or away. I accept some folk have financial limits or work commitments, I do, but I manage (just!). I'm afraid, 'keyboard commandos', as someone stated earlier, are not 'fans', but 'admirers'. If that upsets or annoys those, that fall into this area.........oh well.

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  30. chibuzo akobundu9:39 pm, May 16, 2012

    well in all honesty nothing was built under  kenny's watch just a lot of money thrown around. We have to spend more to compensate for all the money Kenny spent on non performing players. 

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  31. Wilson Michaelpaul10:07 pm, May 16, 2012

    sanest comment so far  - there was no player power conspiracy , just what I feared would happen when Kenny took over from Roy  - every aspect of the game and players has changed immeasurably since Kenny last managed with any success in the top flight  - he was just a man out of time who got some off the pitch decsions badly wrong  - if anything I feel the Suarez affair played as big a part in his downfall as finishing 8th  - todays game is all about branding and FSG only got involved in Suarezgate when it looked like brand LFC as a business was becoming tainted.

    I felt these last months he should stand down  - now its happened and I am gutted .

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  32. Easy, they play with other players intent on fcuking the momentum up....

    Seasoned senior "professionals" like Reina and Saurez....

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  33. Wilson Michaelpaul10:27 pm, May 16, 2012

    I too am mad as hell at Suarez' part in Kenny's catastrophic first full season  - he gave Kenny his word he would shake Evra's hand and then he hung him out to dry in front of the worlds media at old trafford  - for me that day finished Kenny  - the old soldier going in to battle for one of his own players unaware he'd been made a total laughing stock .

    I'm just gutted about how all this has played out  - and I am not proud at all with the stuff ive posted online lately calling for him to go .

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  34. Whose "we all"....only those who thought kd can do nothing wrong brigade thought it was genius buying Carroll....the rest of the premier ship thought waste of money.......

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  35.  I agree with both of you both totally, i was born a red, have been attending matches for over 30 years, have a season ticket in the paddock, Liverpool have battered teams at home this season, and have made enough chances in games to win 2 matches.
    But for some reason our finishing has been woeful, we have not received what our play has deserved.
    And those home draws and silly losses at home have done for us to the tune of 31 pts that would have given us 83 pts and the CL that everyone craves, except a few, like myself and those above who want silverware. 

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  36. Jamie, I honestly never thought that you would say this. Respect for that, since everyone on this site knows how much you dislike the guy. 

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  37. I have an honest question for you. Can you shortly tell me why you hate Benitez to that extent? Is it his personality, his interviews, playing style etc? (Just simply want to know as it seems you really don't like the guy)

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  38. NEXT_LFC_MANAGER4:38 am, May 17, 2012

    KD is and always will be a Liverpool legend, but his signings last summer were DIRE. The only thing worse was how he persisted with the likes of Downing and Henderson in the starting 11 week after week.

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  39. NEXT_LFC_MANAGER4:39 am, May 17, 2012

    CAPELLO or BIELSA...

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  40. AVB? If not Rafa or Martinez, the other candidate is AVB - although Alain Pardieux is the latest name to crop up.

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  41. You do realize that half. Yes HALF of Liverpool's revenue comes from overseas fans. Without them you wouldn't have the financial capacity to compete in the Premier League. So, to suggest that their opinion doesn't count is just wrong and to suggest that all overseas fans wanted him gone is wrong too. 


    Plenty would of liked him to stay, but likewise there were regular match day fans who were fed up with performances too. 

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  42. Scmoffett true red11:31 am, May 17, 2012

     have put two post up in the last two days both has been took down they were not offensive just critical of jamie k as he is not a true red  so i wil contuine to put up me posts as i think if he can get away with what he puts up on this site why cant i.WHATS GOOD FOR THE GOOSE IS GOOD FOR THE GANDER YNWA

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  43. You mention Evra a fair bit in your posts as well! and it has to have been a factor in why he went, and probably a factor in why he could not motivate the team to play week in, week out, in the league. Who would run through walls for a boss wearing that t shirt? Obviously not most of our players.

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  44. denying that Suarez did not dodge the handshake, when the entire football watching public clearly saw that he had. It was embarrassing. But not as embarrassing as being turned over by Wigan, West Brom and Fulham at home, and drawing with Villa, and then hearing that the team just needed a bit of luck to turn things around.

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  45. I always thought that Clarke was more involved with the defensive side of coaching, but, then, even that has gone to pot recently.

    I agree, a clean break, a new approach, with an agreed timespan with agreed targets in advance. That includes, Benitez, no going back from here, I hope.

    The owners will be unpopular for a while, as will the next manager with some supporters, simply for not being Dalglish or, hopefully, not being Benitez, but it did not do Newcastle any harm and we need to look at how they turned it around and try to do the same. Maybe we should be trying to poach their chief scout?

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  46. Hodgson showed his true colours also. If Charlie Adam was English, he would have made the squad as well. Or at least standby, like Henderson. And Downing, no goals or assists in the league, and then look at his England stats, 33 games, no goals! How does this guy manage it? I think he can be better for us next year, if he finds his Villa form, but, until then, why does every manager keep picking him?

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  47. If they did, Kenny could always have dropped them and played other players.

    I think you will find that Mali is joking, mind you!! Carroll only sabotaged Kenny for the first 8 months of the season. He was decent for the last month. Does that make him the worst of the lot? Maybe the others were not good enough to reach the level of 'decent'?

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  48. Agreed, i really wanted him to resign. I hope that, when the dust settles, they will offer him something else and he will take it. Because, average manager or not, he is Liverpool through and through and it is not good for a club like ours to not be on good terms with its best ever player. The owners will look even more clueless if they do not try to heal this rift sometime in future. 

    I remember, all those years ago, when Moores had the option to sell to the cowboys or to Sheikh Mohammed, and, for some reason, he chose Hicks and Gillet. Never could understand that, one of the richest men in the world, who had a track record in British sport since the 70s, singlehandly carrying the uk racing industry for years, and Moores chose two unknowns ahead of someone like that. Everything that has happened since boils down to that very poor decision, in my opinion, and i'd love to know what made Moores come to that decision.

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  49. Johnson? What are you talking about? Guy's been injured for half the season and has not been worse than anyone else when he has played.

    Agree about Reina, hope we sell him and make a profit by replacing him with Robinson from Blackburn for less than half the price.

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  50. He should have known though. I still wonder what Kenny was doing if he did not see that moment. And if he had not seen it, why did he defend the guy so strongly when it was put to him? Pure stupidity, lack of respect also. He was asked a valid question and attempted to bully the interviewer into backing down.

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  51. Which would be scary. I think they need to come clean, talk about what they are trying to achieve, acknowledge that the next guy is going to have it hard and that they need to be patient and give the guy three years and tell him that as long as he is not in the bottom 7 or 8 for more than a few weeks early in the season, the job is his to rebuild the team. Again.

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  52. I hope the owners are braver than that and understand the problem they made for themselves by appointing Kenny in the first place. It's their job, as owners, to make the tough decisions and to make the right ones. I have some sympathy for Benitez because he ended up not getting as much funding as he might have, but i think that he still made some terrible decisions, wasn't a good man manager and, despite good wins at old trafford and at home to real madrid, favoured a fairly boring style of football.

    I think Martinez, more than Rodgers, was responsible for the Swansea style of play, although Rodgers improved the team. Martinez seems to be good at picking up young players for a good price, which we definitely could do with. I'd still prefer to see them move heaven and earth and try to get O'Neill. He'll knock heads together and some of the nonsense we've seen this season would not be happening. Worried to see Pardew mentioned, I think he is good manager but I reckon he got lucky with his signings at Newcastle. Until we are worthy challengers for the title, I can't see any point of us getting a manager who is only used to operating at that level, who knows how they would cope with us? O'Neill has previous form with teams around our level or below (although not our budget) and taking them up the table and, even, close to a champions league place.

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  53. There's no hindsight, everyone said that 35 million was far too much. And he would have known that the lack of action in the transfer market was going to lead to Torres leaving. There would have been no problem with him trousering the cash from Torres, buying Suarez and then trying to get a loan signing to tide us over till the end of the season. Or, considering that Carroll was injured, using N'gog. Carroll did not play till March in any case.

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  54. The Newcastle scout had a whole list of replacements that would bolster the squad for the entire 35 million we gave them. Plus pay for some of the guys they'd recently bought as well. Newcastle managed to get Ba, Cabaye, Cisse and Ben Arfa on that money. Plus cover what they paid for Tiote and still have 7 or 8 million left. And Carroll spent two months injured, so we paid that heavy price to have him for two months at the end of the season.

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  55. Really? He practices it well enough if they beat us, Man Utd, Newcastle and Arsenal away. And lost, unluckily, to Chelsea when they scored two offside goals. Wigan are the worst funded team in the EPL. He also has a good eye for youngsters and doesn't need to rely on his old club, in Rodger's case, Chelsea, to pick up youngsters to bolster his squad.

    I'd like to see Swansea perform in the Premier League for another season before Rodgers came to a club like ours. Lambert is a better shout, for me. He had Norwich performing to that standard for some time now. Has anyone been promoted two years running and survived in the Premier League before?

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  56. It was said a long time ago that it would be interesting to see how much these guys actually spend. Seeing as they did, in fact, get the team on the cheap, which people denied because they hated the previous owners, a more realistic investment would have seen them pump more of what they had saved into the team in order to bring the team up to scratch without having to sell the club's main striker. 45 million or so spent in 18 months is not so much, especially when the manager overspent a lot of that net spend.

    Unfortunately, when we are showing relegation form for half a season, rebuilding is the only option.

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  57. Yes, relegation form for 2012. Hardly instant success. Going backwards, more like. None of the superior loyalists have a clue how it is going to improve apart from blind faith.

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  58. Yes, totally agree. As much of a dinosaur as the manager had shown himself to be, I'm afraid.

    The longer the club lives in the past, the longer it will struggle.

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  59. Clarke was also at West Ham as well, although, admittedly, things were good when he joined, went downhill when Kean joined.

    Clarke's loyalty is peculiar, in a way, as it is not as if anyone else is going to offer Kenny a job, so I'm sure Kenny would have understood it if he'd stayed. The fact that no one will be falling over themselves to sign Kenny up probably says all there needs to be said.

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  60. And who takes the credit or gets the blame for signing and picking these players?

    I thought that when Kenny was enquiring about Wifried Zaha, he called Dougie Freedman to see what kind of character the guy had? Did he not do this with Downing or Henderson or Carroll? Or was he just trying to find out if the guy minded being called negrito in training? If the players stabbed him in the back, most of them were players that he bought and then continued to pick.

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  61. For some reason. That's why the coaching set up has been dismantled.

    I've been to matches and watched them on tv, and there is a difference, but not as big a difference as some people are implying. Poor football and not creating enough chances or finishing them properly shows up plenty well enough on tv.

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  62. Too right. It's a real knuckleheaded and outdated opinion. It's a big world out there and some people have failed to notice. They are quite happy to talk about Liverpool being a big club and use the funds from outside the city to purchase players. So not only is it an outdated and knuckleheaded opinion, it is completely hypocritical.

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  63. Of course it was a factor. He got eaten alive by a voracious media with an agenda.

    The interview given by 'victim' Evra to Sky yesterday made me heave.

    Maybe I'm racist...... Did you never figure it out?!!
    :(

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  64. But at the time the money didn't matter. That's the point.

    All we cared about was that although we had lost a hero, a new player was coming in. At the time I clearly remember him being likened to Shearer when he went to Blackburn.

    However, hindsight has proven what a huge gamble it was.

    And the price was set by a ridiculous bid from Spurs a few days before.....

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  65. If we had scraped Champions League last season, instead of Spurs, no-one would have minded about the fee.

    That's the hindsight bit, surely?

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  66. Chips on my shoulder, as I grow older.

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  67. And surely if you can afford a replica shirt and 'merchandise', then you can afford a ticket to the game?

    I know what I'd rather have - the memory of a great day out or some polyester that makes me look like a billboard.

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  68. Is it true he turned down a severance package and instead asked the owners to spend it on new players it's a major fb rumour can anybody shed any light on this

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  69. Sounds like a rumour started by the newly formed 'Committee for the Canonisation of Kenny Dalglish'.

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  70. jaimie k not a true red fan no matter wat he will always put them down

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  71. wonder how long it will be before jaimie kanwar will be writing and slaging off the new manger who ever it may be ynwa

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  72. If Pardew gets the job I'm finished with the Prem League

    Rafa is not coming back, ever.

    Klopp sounds good but I'm not familiar with his team's style or German domestic football

    Rodgers for me from the list being bandied about at present.....

    Capello has never managed inEngland, is he an option?

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  73. Pardew was lucky he had a great scout to pick up great signings on the money we gave them for Carroll. Reckon we should be trying to that guy as well, is his name Mike Carr?

    Think Rafa is a backwards step, definitely, I remember some awful performances under him.
    Klopp has a great record, but why would he leave a champions league team that is on the up, like Dortmund, and join us? He can't be too far from being German manager some day either.

    Was surprised Rodgers turned it down, i think that any manager who turns down a role like this is probably not the man for the job anyway. Managing Liverpool gives someone the chance to be a legend. Managing Liverpool at this time gives them the chance to attain, almost, God like status!! Anyone who isn't up for that challenge, and the team is not as bad as people make out, probably does not have the nuts at the highest level, in my opinion.

    As for Capello, after he took all the money from the FA to not take England to Euro 2012, in order to support John Terry, he shouldn't even have the nerve to manage an English club again unless that club is Chelsea.

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  74. But Carroll was injured, that isn't the hindsight bit. Had Carroll been fit and ready to bust a gut from day one, the risk was worthwhile, but he didn't play for two months.

    I think all managers are fired with the use of hindsight to be honest, but Dalglish took the risk on Carroll at that price, he spent half the remainder of that season injured, Newcastle used the funds to build a better team, and get them to gel in half the time, Kenny, in the meantime, then got mugged by Villa, Blackpool and Sunderland and we ended up in 8th place. As we missed Europe altogether last season, and would have again, through the league, I think the hindsight that concludes that the manager's part in this has not been good enough is correct. As hindsight always is. But there were plenty of warning signs before things got this bad and the manager did not react to any of them.

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  75. That could be Kenny's epitaph.

    Anyway, I'm allowed to, cos i have a black grandfather and it is only down to cultural differences.

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  76. Yes, great days out like Wigan, WBA and Fulham at home. Losing is one thing, but the lack of goals against opposition of that quality....

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  77. Yes, as if. I doubt anyone loves the club that much!

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  78. yes that is right we needs fafe and torres back to liverpool.

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  79. That's what sums you up, Gab. You watch LFC purely to see them win, whereas I watch them to see my pals, have a chat, drink some tins of Red Stripe, have my routine curry/rice/chips and then watch my team play.

    Whatever the result, I never tire of going to Anfield and realise how lucky I am to be able to see them play.

    Wigan and West Brom were still great day's out, it's just the result put a dampener on them.

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  80. Certainly not you two, that's for sure.

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