31 Aug 2011

Samir Nasri: Just another self-absorbed, money-grabbing mercenary

Another day, another selfish, overpaid footballer publicly displaying disloyalty and naked self-interest. This time, it's Manchester City's new signing Samir Nasri, who has rather classlessly stabbed Arsenal in the back at a time of real turmoil for the club.

As with many players in the world's top leagues, when the going gets tough, the ladyboys of modern football 'bail and bitch'. In Nasri's case, it's quite clear from his latest comments that he couldn't hack the realities of life at Arsenal, which incidentally is one of Europe's top clubs. As soon as he had to actually put some effort in to help the Gunner's through some some tough times, he bailed:

"My decision was made in June. The defeat against Birmingham in the League Cup final was very harmful for the minds...I wanted to leave after our difficult end of season".

What an admirable attitude: he'll gladly take tens of thousands of pounds a week to kick a ball around but as soon as things become just a little bit difficult, it's time to leave. Clearly, Nasri's privileged and pampered little world was in danger of collapsing as a result of losing the League Cup final.

What happens if Man City go through difficulties? Will he just up and leave then as well? Of course not, because as usual, it's all about money, and he'll probably be too well paid to consider leaving:

"Arsenal doesn't have the same funds. They can't make the same coups as before in the transfer market. Today I feel like I’m in a team where I can win titles. [At Man city], there are 22 players of a very high level. In the Premier League, very few clubs can show such wealth."

None of this is a surprise of course, it's just further evidence of the narcissistic, egotistical culture of football - it's no longer a team game; it's no longer about players collectively doing their best for their clubs; it's about milking the club for all its worth and subjugating team achievement in favour of individual success.

Footballing vampires like Nasri (and Wayne Rooney - remember his demands last season?) expect clubs to be set-up to serve *them* and their own personal ambitions; they suck as much cash and opportunity out of the system as possible, then as soon as any kind of barrier to achieving individual success materialises, they bail and bitch, and move on to the next club (as opposed to knuckling down and helping their team move forward).

Man City is definitely the right place for Nasri - it's a club full of greedy mercenaries with no real feeling for the club.

He'll fit right in.

Jaimie Kanwar


143 comments:

  1. This article is a bit over the top. Yes, money was a factor but City are going places and Arsenal is not. Take a look at the players that left. A bit harsh. Chelsea built a Champions Team the same way.

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  2. Well said.  I think that Nasri might have the same impact on team morale that Adebayour had - ie all that grief with Gallas and the French team

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  3. Bang on the nail.He's a loser at heart

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  4. Nice to see as a Gooner.

    But this is capitalism, my friend.

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  5. I agree with you on that. It is just the reality of the game

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  6. It's funny what happens when clubs like Liverpool slip into the 'second tier' of the Premiership: no longer a force to challenge for a top three place, so bitching about 'money' is inevitable.  Like it or not, City are starting to look the business: a class act capable of competing at the highest level including the Champion's League (remember that competition, Liverpool or is it already a distant memory?). Not only that they won silverware last season (remember that Liverpool or is it already a distant memory?) and they did it by playing as a unit, a strong, unified team. All this talk about 'individuals' is simply the product of an envious eye.  

    Nasri joined City to share and contribute to the success that will follow. Get used to it.  

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  7. brilliant article from a fan from a different club. as an Arsenal fan I totally agree with you, I understand slightly with Nasri as up until today Arsenal have never dabbled in the market etc but he is a toothless bastard and like many footballers, money is the driving factor. arsenal are going places as are liverpool it is just harder when you dont have x billion pounds driving you

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  8. let Nasri leave us hw his sum were hw

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  9. Wow sounds like he hurt you personally, what a nice balanced article. Congratulations!

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  10. He certainly will it right in. The irony is, is that City had very loyal players and coaching-staff on their books who have been given the cold shoulder: Barton (I know. But like an Alsation), Bellamy, the Honey-Monster, Given.

    So yes Jamie, he'll fit right in, and surely his time will come too.

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  11. OK let's take it point by point..

    1. Arsenal got £25 Million for a player with 1 year left on his contract. I wouldn't mind a stab in the back for that kind of money.

    2. We can all choose to leave our current jobs if we want to. Contracts are 2-way things. If Arsenal wanted him to stay they should've paid him the market value and secured his signature before June or accepted he wanted to leave.

    3. Charlie Adam left Blackpool for you lot. Why didn't he stay and help them get back up? He actually wanted out at Xmas but they wouldn't let him... Or is that different because it's Liverpool?

    4. City aren't going to go through difficulties!  ;)

    5. You're just a bitter bin dipper who thinks the world of football revolves around Liverpool and the rest of the "Big 4". Well it's about time you woke up and smelled the coffee...


    CITY ARE BACK!

    X

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  12. He clearly doesnt show any class. look at Fabregas, left Arsenal and never came back to say what a shitty team Arsenal is. Such a shame!

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  13. Lol, bitter scousers. Enjoy watching City from your far away TV screen do what Liverpool couldn't and pip the rags to the Premier League title. As for Liverpool, how much have they spent the last 20 years? And Arsenal, the first club to pay 100k per week salaries, a club that bought it's way into the first division all them years ago because they had the money to illegally do so. Hypocritical, jealous mard arses who don't mind when it's their own club spunking millions on player transfers. Liverpool were one of the worst and still couldn't win the league. Enjoy the season, I know I will. WNRH

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  14. As an Arsenal fan, I appreciate this cool-minded piece of analysis - somehow Arsenal's relations with Liverpool have always been more civilized than with our other rivals, maybe something to do with class. Many of us always knew that Nasri, like Cantona and Zidane before him, was a classical talented Marseilles voyou (rascal), but we just liked to think he was <span>our</span> voyou. He turned out just to be his own voyou.

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  15. Agreed. If Nasri should die to today,what has he done compared to all the great French football legends at Arsenal and France? Absolutley nothing.

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  16. This is a personal opinion site - I'm under no obligation be balanced.  One of this site's agendas is to highligh and criticise player greed, disloyalty, cheating etc, hence this article.

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  17. great article, couldn't agree more

    amazing that Nasri wanted out after final defeat, if it wasn't for him choking our best second half chances we would have won that game

    little wanker unable to take responsibility for anything, good riddance

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  18. I totally agree that it's the reality of the game; doesn't mean we have to like it though.

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  19. You do talk some shyte Sandy.  The onyl reason City are where they are is because they are recieving charity hand outs from a wealthy owner and are being run like arich mans play thing. Fuck your untity etc etc, it's ateam full of players chasing money, why would Tevez or Aguerro fgo there instead of Barcelona, Real Madrid, Manchester Utd?  Your clubs not fit to lace their boots......

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  20. don't like scousers who are jealous12:08 pm, August 31, 2011

    Hey man, is this a bit of jealousy or what. Poor old 'pool just becuase you don't have the dosh any more - boo hoo.
    Get real, get with it the future is bright the future is BLUE BLUE BLUE 
    oH AND BTW Carrol, Suarez, adam - not at all mercenary- I am sure they would paly for nowt!! Bollo!!

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  21. We will see, WE WILL SEE.  You can't buy loyalty. He mentions minds not right after Birminham, that's because he was humiliated by the fans and he did not have the stomach to admit his failings. Your a flash in the pan team. and as quickly as you've appeared you will dissappear.

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  22. Agree, that's the point.  If Nasri had just kept his mouth shut and gone with grace I probably wouldn't have posted this article. 

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  23. It's all fine except none of those comments you're basing this whole article on were actually said by Nasri - they're fake.

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  24. Well said...Nasri takes the meaning of mercenary to a whole new level. He is so excited, he can't keep quiet. Money grabbing judas cunt, I hope the de Jong warlord breaks both your legs during training....but again, u will happily take the money without playing. What did u do for Arsenal? One half season. The club needed u assume the role of the playmaker, and what did u do? Cometh the hour, cometh the money grabbing coward.

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  25. Harry Rednap got it right. He said if Nasri wanted medals he could have gone to Man U. Instead he went where the money was.

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  26. Well said on both side of the arguement. Yes there is greediness and yes there is also captialise and reality. As an Arsenal Fan, I would say he is greedy as hell and many of us would also question his loyality to the team he is in, if they didn't get to win a thing this season, who he leave?
    In the reality side, people tried to earn as much during their peak and it is understandable. Face the fact, this is not football we used to know, this is business now. BUT really, do you need to go out in public and start stomping on your old club? Have some decency in your humanity. Furthermore, Arsenal is one of the few clubs around the world who still believe football is football..that is why they never sign a heavy weight player.
    In conclusion to this, we will just have to wait and see how the season goes. My prediction will be M.C out of top four if Arsenal remains strong at the end of season. Spur wont make it, Liverpool will have better chances out of Spur n Man C.

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  27. Believe me, it's nothing to do with jealousy. It's not really even about Man City; it's about individual player greed and loyalty.

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  28. Man City's salary bill was 121% of their turnover last year. Does that register with you??

    That means they were massively subsidised by a billionaire whose interest may flit somewhere else at any time

    Over £1 billion has been spent there so far, another £700 million they could have just bought the team they are trying to emulate - Man Utd

    John W Henry recently quoted Gordon Taylor on billionaires

    “History tells you that sometimes, like butterflies, they land on one attractive resting place then move on to another. I’m asking: when it’s time for these people to move, is there a structure in place to enable their clubs to survive?"

    Enjoy it when it lasts Man City, Chelsea etc

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  29. Money doesn't buy you class, only mercenaries, only histroy and integrety can give you class.

    Arsenal and Liverpool have this in spades, Man city and Chelsea don't.

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  30. Vince in Manchester12:12 pm, August 31, 2011

    So in the 70's 80's 90's when you were winning all the trophies I seem to remember that you had multi millionaire sugar daddies from the Littlewood's empire.
    All the player's you signed in these years were as you say sell absorbed money grabbing mercenaries.Pot kettle comes to mind.
    Oh and by the way Suarez,Carroll, and co not gone for the money?I rest my case.  

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  31. Money doesn't buy you class, only mercenaries, only histroy and integrety can give you class.

    Arsenal and Liverpool have this in spades, Man city and Chelsea don't.

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  32. on the day yet another player signs for liverpool still trying to see where you have got all your money from recently as its not from winning anything.  Maybe they come for the history, which is pretty pointless

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  33. i accept most of the points on here. There is no need for him to bitch about Arsenal though, If he'd played a bit better towards the end of the season we may have won something. If it was about trophies why didn't hr go to the other mancs? He talks about Arsenal "losing it's soul" when moving to the emirates but he's got no idea what he's talking about. I hope he fails, wanker

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  34. are back...???? They have never been there, you can't go back to somewhere you have never been! City are a rich Arabs toy...any success is his not the fans... enjoy your one trophy and maybe in 50 years you will have as many as Utd and LFC! 

    ha ha... back!! losers...always have been always will be...

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  35. Surprised why this post is even needed, Nasri's comments re:Arsenal are very honest and open, he wants to go because he wants to win (Is that greedy????) yes hes on more money but Man City probabloy paid half of what he's worth.  No need for this

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  36. No - all the players Liverpool signed predominantly came from the lower leagues or inferior teams. The likes of Dalglish, Hansen, Barnes, Aldridge, Rush et al all made a natural career progression; they didn't leave top-level sides and go to Liverpool just for the money.  And when Liverpool started to decline in the early 90s, the likes of Barnes and Rush stayed for years afterwards.

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  37. ManU is the club of today, but times are a changin'!

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  38. Arsenal the first to pay £1o0k salaries. Are we supposed to take you seriously? RVP is on 90k and he's the highest paid.

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  39. Carrol 35 million Henderson 20 million..hahaha

    Get use to watching Sunday football both Liverpool & Arsenal fans..
    ps
    Thursday will be your BIG Euro nights..hahaha

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  40. As a city supporter I don´t like to hear Nasri backbiting on Asenal. It isn´t nice nor becoming and I admit thatr its bad form. But regarding his supposed lack of loyalty and desire for money, lets get real.
    If City had wanted an ethical high moral coded do-gooder they´d have signed someone from a charity organisation, but they didn´t. They just wanted someone who was good at kicking a ball.
    OK, so Nasri took the easy road out when things got tough at Arsenal! He may be tempted to do the same at City one day in the futuire, but this is precisely why City pay high wages in the hope of keeping him from temptation when the going gets rough.
    How many of your high minded godly types who you have playing for you at Liverpool do you think would choose to stay if City offered to double their wages?
    Answer = none. They´re no different than any of the other players in the Pemiership. Of couse if they know they´re never going to be invited to join City, then it is very easy for them to get all high minded and say "I´d never go there just for money"

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  41. spot on mate..

          and Wax Dart citeh is back ???..laughable and what many citeh fans dont understand is that easy come easy goes..
          nazri is just not the kind of(man)i would like to know thats for sure....

          Jaimie as a Gooner for 40 years i would like to thank you..this is what being a true fan is all about showing respect for eachother..i think most fans had pool in their hearts when you lot went to tough times...

           me im glad to have pool back amongst the best...we have had some great battles and we will again ;

            

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  42. Jesus,

    One FA Cup in 34 years and you talk about players going to City to win things......

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  43. Vince in Manchester12:24 pm, August 31, 2011

    Please don't get bitter like that lot from Salfordyour better fans than them.

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  44. Blood'n'sand ! I expect the rags to bitch about anything to do with Man City  (smell the fear !) but this is a bit rich coming from a Liverpool "fan". Liverpool have been trying to buy the Premiership for years  (nothing wrong with that... if you've got the money) ; their transfer spend, over the last ten years, has been the equal of any club : are we to believe all those players have come to Liverpool simply " for the honour of playing for a club - with "class" - have they all taken a substantial cut in their wages for privilege of playing for Liverpool ? As a City fan, I'm perfectly aware that City are a second rate club that can only attract 3rd Rate Mercenaries who's only interest is money, who will move on as soon as the money runs out and that it will all end in tears and blah blah blah  ( copyright ManUMirror ) .  I take some pride in having seen City beaten at York, Wycombe, Shrewsbury,Lincoln, Stockport and so on on.... if we've been lucky enough to win the lottery and can now compete with the best - thank-you God  ! - at least we're not part of the egregious stitch-up that was the Sky-Premiership / Champions League Deals formulated to ensure the Big 4 ahould never have any competition.  Get used to it sonny .

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  45. Capitalism is not limitless spending without being able to back it up.......... oh wait a second.......... Lehmann Brothers, Bear Stearns, Merrill Lynch, sub prime mortgages, record deficit in USA, double dip recessions, the euro on verge of collapse

    American football, NFL, is run and owned by billionaires who don't dilute their wealth by having a financial arms race

    Paradoxically, they practice a form of Socialism by limiting spending to maintainable levels, with a salary cap and they extract a profit as anyone should from any business

    Arsenal are run properly, Liverpool possibly also given the owners knowledge of sports franchises from USA

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  46. Good article, but, as an Arsenal supporter, and at the risk of being branded a sore loser, there is a wider issue here.

    If, as seems likely, the Financial Fair Play rules are circumvented by oil-rich sheiks, we could be watching the beginning of the end of partisanship based on background and the Premier League as the best league in the world.

    If we aren't careful we could see this deluge of unearned wealth turning the PL into a La Liga, whereby two clubs outbid and cherry-pick the market, and the rest go to hell in a handbasket.

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  47. sour grapes i reckon, the scousers spent a shitload of money to get where they were. scousers are always the hard done by picking on me team. i bet you would say no to someone like mansour coming in and buy your club!!!!

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  48. Stop reading what you only want to see, OP. Can you not see that Nasri wants to play in a team that is going places - as opposed to one that is being broken up, showing total lack of ambition. You appear very blinkered - and seem to take in everything you hear or read. When you get a moment, try to see again what Nasri ACTUALLY said in it's WHOLE context. It may surprise you how blinkered you actually are.

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  49. Chelsea like Citeh bought a CL team, they didn't build it, the article is spot on

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  50. It is so hypocrytical. Top clubs have the most money and the highest wage bills. Has been the same since the 80s. Erm who was that Merseyside based club that plays in Red that got into vast crippling debt signing dozens of overpaid numpties in some vain attempt to catch UTD ??? Erm erm. Tough one. Anyone help me out ?????

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  51. translation please.

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  52. Sorry Sandy but you could not be more wrong.

    The players Man City have is because they could raise the bar when it comes to wages, something a normal club living within their own means (playing fair) cannot afford to do.

    Most of the players Man City has would be at other clubs with history if Man City hadn't come with unlimited resources and spoil it for everyone else.

    These unlimited resources are making it harder for everyone else to sign quality players and keeping their quality players, Man City do not have to worry about breaking the £200k a week mark to seduce a player to play for them.

    Off course the players want titles too and they want success and off course they will get it but this success has not come together because Man City are a great club that have self-managed themselves to success, they bought success.

    Buying success is empty and shallow.

    Is no different than picking Burnley in Football Manager, cheating to get unlimited money and taking pride in saying you won everything after 3-4 years.

    Man City are cheating, same as Chelsea... is not envy, is anger that you are ruining the game and transforming it into a "I have more money, so we are better".

    Get used to it? if the fair play rules coming in place are any decent then we wont have to, you will have to get used to the fact you will go back to being a midtable team.

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  53. No FOOL they did it buy getting dubious fucds from a Stadium naming right bollocks deal. They are trying to buy the league. They will fail. Miserably. Last season we dismantled them while their bench was worth more than our whole team. Pathetic.

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  54. Nasri 23mill

    Henderson 20mill

    not a bargain.

    a steal.

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  55. Vince in Manchester12:43 pm, August 31, 2011

    Oh Danny boy your so bitter .Get a life and go back to your history.

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  56. Atop 4 team with aspirations of the title come calling you best believe you bite the hand right off. End Of. Simples.

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  57. Liverpool were quite happy to cash in on the ‘Champions League’,  a competition that served to make the rich a lot richer, at the expense of other clubs. And the only way you can compete is by acquiring the very best of players and that costs money. It always has and always will.  

    Sadly, for some, the balance of power shifts and clubs like Liverpool will suffer: history is about yesterday, not about now or tomorrow. And the harsh reality is that City have left Liverpool behind. This might hurt but whining on here won’t change anything.  As for ‘spending’, United have led this for over decade. Remember, they were shelling out sums of £25M nearly 10 years ago: Ferdinand, Veron etc and have continued ever since.  The only difference now is that they are up to their eyeballs is debt and City are not. And now watch City’s turnover increase in order to meet FFPR. 

    City’s strategy is part of a well structured business operation that will change the order of football in England and Europe. 

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  58. Weve spent more than you AND we got better players than you bwahahahahaha Luis Suarez is the best striker in the world right now.

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  59. Your name here...12:46 pm, August 31, 2011

    What are clubs without 'history' and previous mega success supposed to do then? The argument that you have to have history to waste money (think £20 million for jordon henderson), means that unless you have won stuff in the past you cannot possibly win things in the future, becuase its impossible to win trophies in the modern game without spending money. If Liverpool or United went bust tomorrow, all the history in the world would not keep Suarez and Rooney at there respective clubs, nor would it stop them being relegated just like it didnt with Leeds. Its a ridiculous point and a ridiculous article written by a half wit scouser. Your time is over, COME ON CITY.

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  60. Lol how are them grapes? are they a touch sour? instead of blaming players for earning as much as they can blame the capitalist society that encourages this way of thinking across the entire spetrum.

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  61. Read a comment about Liverpool having class? They didn't exhibit much when they got English ins banned from Europe. Short term memory. As for the purchases , i am glad you convinced your signings to play for free

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  62. Just howd you work that gem out? Buy the league with what? The other teams have consistently spent more than Liverpool have, in fact weve had to sell to buy while you have just bought bought bought. FACT.

    Solid reasoning there son. bwahahahahaha

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  63. HISTORY what a crock of poo.. you mean how much success a club as had, but you wont say that because it shows you for the clown you are!!!

    No club outside the Sky 4 connot compete without massive investment, now was that fair.. noooooooooooooooo and before you start the well they earned it no they did not. Man u funded by martin edwards with money made from selling meat to school children that wasnt fit for human consumption..
    I suggest if your want to bring the history into it you should actually check the historical facts.. also man city where formed before the rags now is that not history ???

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  64. what i want to know is how nasri will even fit into the man citeh team? will he get a guaranteed start EVERY week like he did at arsenal?
    with the amount of players they have i think not. granted he is a talented footballer, but its quite clear that the only reason any player goes to that club nowadays is for the money.
    buying the players needed to compete for silverware is part and parcel to the success of any club, but the blue mancs have taken this to a whole new level.
    lets be realistic though, if you work in a career with a shelf life of 10-15 years tops, and you were even remotely half decent at your job and you were offered that kind of money, who can honestly say they would say no? very few is the answer.
    and this is where the problem fundementally lies with modern day football.
    its no longer a sport.
    its a business. to use a well known movie phrase, the first thing players ask clubs to do nowadays is to 'show me the money'. the actual act of playing the sport of football comes a distant second.

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  65. Spot on mate!
    I loved him as a Gunner but hate him as a City player.
    And that has nothing todo with leaving Arsenal, it's about how he did it.

    Some players take credit when things go well but when there's another trophy-less eason they exclude them selfs from any blame.

    Where the hell was Nasri durein the last 3-4 months of the season?

    Fuck him!

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  66.  your talking a load of shit amanshitty will win nothing there will be to much in fighting there is only 1 team in manchester and that is united just because you pay huge money for players dosent mean  ye win anything

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  67. John W Henry recently quoted Gordon Taylor on billionaires  
     
    “History tells you that sometimes, like butterflies, they land on one attractive resting place then move on to another. I’m asking: when it’s time for these people to move, is there a structure in place to enable their clubs to survive?"  
     
    Enjoy it while it lasts Man City, Chelsea etc

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  68. Just keep buying everyone so Man Utd can't get them

    They'll still hammer you

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  69. No comment Erik didnt think so, buying success is empty and shallow, interesting comment. as every single club that has won the prem has spent ridiculous amounts of money to do it.

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  70. Lol...

    The bitterness of Liverpool fans never ceases to amaze me. as has been mentioned previously in the thread, this article reads like a bitter rant, its basis in the fact that liverpool are no longer a mover and shaker in  the PL...

    Arsenal have sold their two best players and have as yet not reinvested the cash, someone more cynical than i might say this is because wenger gets a cut of the profits from player sales which then clearly puts the emphasis on developing young players which dont cost very much and selling them if/when they become world class. a similar situation at Utd where the glaziers take 50% of the profits from player sales....

    In my opinion Samir is spot on with his assessment, arsenal will not win anything with their current crop of players, if you beleive any different than you are a fool, just look at the result against Utd last week.

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  71. it all about the money  and nothing else he had the chance to go to man utd a tema that regularly wins thing but he decided to go to a tema that has just won there first trophey  in 20 or 30 years..     ITS all about the money  he is worse than adye

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  72. And if ever you needed proof are eduction system is broken ^^^^^ LMAO

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  73. Apparentley not Vince, they know their cosey little sky 4 has been trashed and they cant take it :)

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  74. How has he stabbed Arsenal in the back with his quotes? Read what he says:

    <span><span>Arsenal doesn't have the same <span>funds</span> - true</span></span>
    <span><span></span><span>They can't make the same coups as before in the transfer <span>market</span> - true</span></span>
    <span><span> Today I feel like I’m in a team where I can win titles - a reasonable opinion to have
    </span></span>
    <span><span>There are 22 players of a very high level - true</span></span>
    <span><span> In the Premier League, very few clubs can show such <span>wealth</span> - also true</span></span>

    <span>"Further evidence of the narcissistic, egotistical culture of football"? Or just the platitudes of a club's new player?
    </span>

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  75. Not sure foxy - it's clearly not Liverpool that you're referring to, and Everton are the only other team on Merseyside even in the same league as Utd but they play in blue, so you're going to have to help us out with the answer. Any more clues?

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  76. fair play good article but i feel Kompany loves the club, but he signed just before the money came in to city

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  77. ermmm? 
    Chelsea transfer spend ( 30 years )---<span> </span>£741M
    Liverpool<span> </span>£590M
    Shit<span> </span>£546M
    Tottenham<span> </span>£474M
    Arsenal<span> </span>£354M
    FACT ----  ??? Liverpool haven't spent ???? Shum mishtake shurely sonny ?

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  78. Crap article!!! the hate pouring from this article is palpable. The author is just a mard arse who cant take his once great team being second best to the mighty CITY !!!

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  79. And you won what last season ?

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  80. 'Man City is definitely the right place for Nasri - it's a club full of greedy mercenaries with no real feeling for the club'.


    My favourite bit of the whole article...laughable really. You clearly don't know anything about city if thats what you think, this club is on the up and people like you need to learn to deal with it in an adult way rather than espousing what you read in the Sun....there's a big wide world out there maybe you should try to experience it for yourself rather than by reading someone elses opinion of it.

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  81. Drys yours eyes mate :'(

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  82. Who was that Aussie player who left Leeds and went to Liverpool after they got relegated because he had no backbone and because he wanted more money?
    Don´t hear too much mention of him on this site!

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  83. Unfortunately that is true Guest - too many of our fans were excited to see the old guard out of Liverpool, whether the money men would be coming from Thailand, Dubai or America and irrespective of their backgrounds. For this reason I agree that Liverpool are no longer able to take the morale high ground and preach about the spending at Chelsea or City.

    The one thing that I will bang on about though is the lack of ambition shown by Mancini and City. For all the talk of his achievements last season (3rd and an FA Cup win) I feel that he severely underachieved considering the investment made in his team. To refuse to compete against those teams anywhere close to the standing of his team just struck me as stereotypical bully boy tactics. Man City clearly have the best squad in the league this year, but they also did last year even without the additions of Nasri and Aguero.

    A contrasting comparison in another sport would be like the upstarts at Red Bull realising that they have the best set up in F1, but just settling for a few podium places because Ferrari and McLaren are traditionally bigger teams. Instead though, they have showed some ambition and immediately shoved their advantage down the big boys throats in consistently mopping up poles, podiums and titles as they have done.

    I can respect that. I can't respect Mancini and his cowardly ways. That's just me though...

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  84. Exactly right

    People don't seem to understand that teams should be allowed to spend a fixed percentage of turnover

    That means that Man Utd will have the highest wage bill, followed by Arsenal and Liverpool in 2nd and 3rd, not necessarily in that order

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  85. Haha are you really as stupid as you sound?  Flash in the pan - your bitterness is pathetic and laughable.

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  86. Your name here...1:18 pm, August 31, 2011

    If you would like to see an answer to your first question, i suggest you locate a video of him playing as one of the key architects of a 5-1 demolishion of tottenham away.

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  87. who is 'we'?  if you are referring to the dippers then you seem to have forgotten you were dismantled at City's place 3-0.  still, why let your short memory get in the way of a stupid statement.

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  88. Yes, obviously City will nothing.  They didn't win the FA cup last season - that was merely an illusion.  You are such a dumbass.

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  89. Where did you come up with that pearl of wisdom ? the Sun, The mirror pehaps.. if your club and fans had Class why are they on here slating City. For doing the same thing as any other club, that is not class its JEALOUSY simple as that. One more point could you please define HISTORY for me. Man city formed in 1880. now i believe that constitutes as having history, i think what your trying to say is we not been that successful, but if you did say that it would show YOUR lack of class. Just like in the school yard we've won more than you.

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  90. An Unbelievably bitter article from a scouser who knows that his shitty little club is finished as a football power. why dont you write articles about how your scummy fans first killed a load of Italians at Hysel and then killed 97 of your own fans at hillsbourough???? - oh dear, the silence is deafening - typical scousers, a chip on their shoulders that needs hacking off.

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  91. mercenary spotter1:22 pm, August 31, 2011

    do fcuk off plank...we played city off hte park last year and will do it again this year. Nasri joined only for the money...he even chose City over United—who the fcuk would do that unless he could earn more...he's a talented player but a prick of a man.

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  92. Your name here...1:22 pm, August 31, 2011

    What the fuck are you talking about?!?!? So it depends purely on the ownership of the club that determines whether he signed for love of the team. The reason Kompany signed for city when he did is because at the time he wasn't a top player, which city have since developed him into.

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  93. Was you complaining when money was being pumped into Arsenal to buy Berkamp, overmars, Platt etc which established you as a top 4 team.. no i dont think so... the grapes are soooo sour on here lovely :)

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  94. If im talking shit could you please explain how ?

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  95. Loved rubbing your face in it last season when we won the FA Cup, and I look forward to rubbing your face in it again.  But please don't cry again like you did last time, as it was tiresome listening to you beg for forgiveness.

    I suggest you go check City's history if you can't understand the 'back' thing, assuming you can read and you didn't get your carer to write that piece for you.

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  96. And no they didnt but them with the stadium naming rights, they were at highbury when they bought them you clown.

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  97. Same applies to the owners of the Dippers... watch them scuttle back to the US once your Kenny decides he has had enough.

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  98. Another clown who shouts history yet has no idea about it lol you can tell schools out

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  99. And City were dismantled 3-0 at Anfield last season. What was that you were saying about short memories?

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  100. Didnt think you had anything to offer except a big mouth and no thought process :)

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  101. Another who has no idea of his OWN clubs History awesome.. its like shooting fish in a barrel far to easy :)

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  102. :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(   cry me a river

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  103. Adebayor, Nasri, Silva, Toure, Adebayor, Aguero, Dzeko, Tevez etc - they're all at Man city because they have a real feeling for the club?!

    Or is it more likely that they're all there for the money?

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  104. Because the harsh fact is they wasnt good enough for the top, which is where we are going :)

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  105. He didnt really watch his interview on the mcfc website dont believe anything the press print, come on we know there full of shit.

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  106. Fair enough but you should watch the interview on mcfc.. he didnt say your fans are bad at all, he said the atmosphere at the emirates is a bit quiter than highbury, thats it..

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  107. And as for the other mancs, we have much chance of winning the league as them hes looking forward at what he may win not looking back at what the rags have won

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  108. Let me guess, you're one of those fans who thinks its funny to chant munich when you play united, get some respect for the dead you vile human being. Also, the author isnt even a scouser, i am though, small clubs like city only know about small local fan bases. You never even sold out your first game of the season, liverpool on the other hand has already sold out every home game until after christmas, check the website. Why would we be bitter about city signing nasri? He's never even played for us.

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  109. Maybe the rags had a point when they said scouce fans are just bitter and jealous.. ewww that felt dirty

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  110. key architect was he?
    and where was this 'key architect' for arsenal when liverpool beat them 2-0?

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  111. Just so i don't look like an idiot, my reply was to a city fan making fun of hillsborough but his comment has been removed

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  112. Reading garbage on here1:59 pm, August 31, 2011

    Let me get this right all the overpriced players you have just bought have gone to you because of the colour of your shirt and the clubs history taken pay cuts etc etc. No I thought not. I suppose they are not mercenaries. Let's be honest no one would move to bin dipper central unless it was for the money and hence mercenaries. I have never known of a footballer moving for anything else whatever they say.

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  113. My heartfelt thanks for this view from the author/supporter who is non Arsenal bias.

    It is clear as night is to day what type of footballer Nasri is and the thought of him running down his final year of contract to sign on for massive fees to either Manu or else is probably far worse a reality.

    I was at the game where Liverpool beat us soundly at the Emirates and I can only wish AW could show half the tactical nous that Dalgliesh had ... when the other team are one man down plus an own goal to the good.. hammer home the advantage by bringing on your talented flair players with skill and guile.

    Thanks for honest opinion and i believe Man City will go the way the Galacticos did .. nowhere in the end.

    J

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  114. Read the posts its quite clear the liverpool fans are jealous, why because they know your behind a 'small club' as you put it. I agree about the Munich chants, but its not only city fans who sing that is it now, i believe you have your own set of thugs that sing that, all clubs have a small minority of idiots. The attendance whats your average for last year ? then have a look at ours you will find your behind us there aswell :)

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  115. Read the posts its quite clear the liverpool fans are jealous, why because they know your behind a 'small club' as you put it. I agree about the Munich chants, but its not only city fans who sing that is it now, i believe you have your own set of thugs that sing that, all clubs have a small minority of idiots. The attendance whats your average for last year ? then have a look at ours you will find your behind us there aswell :)

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  116. You beat us fair an square. no arguments there :)
    He only joined for the money did he? so what your saying if he joined the rags it would be for trophies, that assumes city have no chance of winning anything and rags will win it all, and also he would be paid in the love of playing for the rags... Just like rooney lol some people

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  117. You believe or hope ?

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  118. Some good points, but what you have overlooked is:
    First he sorted the defence so we are hard to score against
    second he fixed the midfield so we can defend and create
    third the strike force was then sorted
    once all those where achieved we started to attack teams just ask spurs, bolton and swansea fans how defensive we are now.
    I do applaud you for actually making some valid points instead of hurling complete drival

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  119. The mancini negative theory stems from the fact he made us hard to beat first and foremost dont forget he had to make the top four to keep his job. now the team has gelled and we have a pretty solid defence, you will see city attack a lot more

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  120. You forgot to mention winning things aswell but that goes against the theme of your article dosnt it.

    Has most have accepted on here we have maybe the strongest team in the league now dosnt it stand to reason having the strongest squad we have a good chance of winning things, or is not an acceptible assumption? So in essence what Nasri says is correct HE CAME TO WIN THINGS !!! and make a few quid ;)

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  121. Blue Bro.. i got nothing against Man City and its millions of true fans. I am just wary of the levels of escalating greed and how players are so quick to abandon any priniciples for more money. I "hope" it lasts at man city and that the owners dont ever get bored. I also "hope" that man city doesnt totally become a team subject the same mercenaries that have destroyed other new money clubs.

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  122. Hmm fair play hey!! the biggest clubs get to spend more than any other clubs in the league, increasing the gap between top 4 and anyone else ensuring they stay in the elite group how very fair that system is...

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  123. He was playing for a team on the decline i hope that helps

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  124. actually, I don't think there's any point in getting clubbish about this, Jamie is just upset about Nando and that's his right. I don't think he trashed City or anyone except by reference. Overreacting is simply showing your sensitivities. Why would City fans give a shit what anyone thinks about them...and that is the way to go for any club. Actually in my mind, that is what is known, pre Hodgo as 'The Liverpool Way'. As for current players in the squad being offered City contracts I think you'll find the answer really would be no, Skrtel said as much and Reina was offered more for Arsenal. Nando was the exception. Anyone want to comment why, except of course for the obvious reason that you think LFC are everything you want them to be, why Young chose Utd? Trophies. He wasn't offered City so where would he have gone had he been offered? He would have gone to City. 

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  125. Take a look out of your window mate it isnt just footballers its our culture, i agree money has ruined the league but that started a loooooooooooong time ago aroundabout the time sky took over. coincidence nope not at all..
    Ive been a city fan for 20 years so even if they do walk away (after spending over 1 billion Unlikely) they are also spending another billion on developing the surrounding area so again unlikey, but even if that happens, i dont care ill still be a blue!!
    No top player will stay at a club when he can win things else where on double your money Ask mr rooney. yes it stinks but that s football.. the only fair way is a transfer and wage cap all teams can afford world wide, but we know that will never happen.

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  126. The only loyal people in football are its fans Simple as that

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  127. I know what u mean. Football owners can change their assets and balance sheets. Football fans have to just lump it and take whatever they are given.

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  128. a team on the decline? the only reason they are a team on the decline is becuase their top players (such as nasri) dont have the balls to stick it out through the bad times and actually show some loyalty to arsenal.
    as soon as times got tough he throught 'bugger this, im away'.
    which is the whole point of the article in the first place.
    its all about MONEY. arsenal are traditionally a top 4 team, have been since the 90's. theyre in the champions league EVERY year.
    theyve just qualified for it this year aswell. doesnt sound like a team on the decline to me. theyve had a bad start to the season. but statistics proof you can never judge a team's season after 3 games.

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  129. Our guys aren't petro dollar billionaires

    They are spending within the financial constraints of the club, there won't be another summer like this for us unless we get top 4 this year

    There is no real debt anymore at Liverpool, we were paying £40 million ish per annum in interest repayments on last leveraged buy out under Hicks and Gillet, this cash can now be spent on players instead

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  130. article is hard hitting but true.

    Gael Clichy is an ex-arsenal player who has also recently joined Man City (and there are others who have left arsenal and gone elsewhere) but we are not seeing the sort of arrogance, disrespect & ingratitude from him that Nasri is displaying against the establishment that has helped him - going by press reports.

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  131. Teams would spend a % of turnover. What's wrong with that?

    It's how any business works, the more successful a company is, the more it can pay it's employees

    Man Utd overtook Liverpool by a combination of a bit of luck, the site that OT sits on allowed massive extension, and by a lot of foresight, maximising their global marketing reach before everyone else realised it's importance

    What FFP will stop is the stockpiling of the world's top players

    Clubs should be run like any other business, Man City's payroll bill last year was 121% of turnover. Do you not see a problem with that??

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  132. JK

    Tone of the website has gone down big time

    Turning into a slanging match

    Let's stick to Liverpool issues, prefer raking up the Rafa history that slugging it out with people who can't even acknowledge a simple point

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  133. Hey Simon.  You're right - I should've kept a closer eye on this thread but I've been busy all day.

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  134. Yes, there is greed from clubs as well. Just watch over the next two or three months while Owen Coyle whines and tries to blackmail Cahill into signing a new contract so that Bolton do not lose him for nothing next summer after their extortionate demands this summer.

    Agree about Nasri, though, could understand Fabregas but then I'd move job if someone offered me 3 times the money, not sure why supporters expect players to be any different. They are doing a job and should do their best on the pitch, as we do in our jobs, but no player has to be a blinkered die hard supporter of their employer.

    Players do not owe supporters loyalty, like every job, if you are useful and doing more than others, your employer loves you, if you are Christian Poulsen, you get shown the door. No patience, no loyalty from anyone. We can't have it both ways. Barcelona is probably the only team in the world where the players and supporters have mutual respect for each other. And the fact they are currently the best club side in the world might have something to do with that! Try telling Paul Konchesky that supporters or any club is owed loyalty or patience. 

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  135. Yes, there is greed from clubs as well. Just watch over the next two or three months while Owen Coyle whines and tries to blackmail Cahill into signing a new contract so that Bolton do not lose him for nothing next summer after their extortionate demands this summer.  
     
    Agree about Nasri, though, could understand Fabregas but then I'd move job if someone offered me 3 times the money, not sure why supporters expect players to be any different. They are doing a job and should do their best on the pitch, as we do in our jobs, but no player has to be a blinkered die hard supporter of their employer.  
     
    Players do not owe supporters loyalty, like every job, if you are useful and doing more than others, your employer loves you, if you are Christian Poulsen, you get shown the door. No patience, no loyalty from anyone. We can't have it both ways. Barcelona is probably the only team in the world where the players and supporters have mutual respect for each other. And the fact they are currently the best club side in the world might have something to do with that! Try telling Paul Konchesky that supporters or any club is owed loyalty or patience. 

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  136. vince in manchester8:00 am, September 01, 2011

    <span>ah but at anfield we weren't at full strength and Tevez went off injured after 5 min. </span>
    <span>I see the nutter with the putter is back at anfield another Mercenary at Liverpool to go with Suarez ,Caroll,and co.</span>

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  137. vince in manchester8:08 am, September 01, 2011

    No mate you are just a very bitter bitter Liverpool fan who cannot except that we are spending money on players just like your club did in the 70's 80's  90's and now.
    You were also paying the likes of Rush, Dalgleish, and all the other stars of the past massive wages of the times no difference.Players going to Liverpool for the money. 

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  138. At well over a 100k quid per week...21k per day, 892 per hr, 14 damn quid per min (if he is paid 150k per week)... it is hard not to be turned. Imagine making over two hundred quid when he takes a 15 min dump or 400 hundred quid when he is bumping his chick...

    Its sad to see but i do think Prof has taken his youth policy, cheap bargain signing too far. What he used years of non success in winning trophies to build is taken away as he sold his almost finished products for a profit...It just is not substainable.

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  139. Just to throw this out there...if a new company offered me the chance to get out of a struggling company that looked like it was sinking and join a company on the up, with more chance of personal sucess and collective sucess, as well as doubling my money? I'd take it in a heartbeat, but apparently everyone else on here still works for a comapny in the same town they were born and have worked in just this one place rejecting better chances due to their commitment.

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  140. Mercenary? All footballers are mercenaries to an extent if your accusing Nasri of being one. If I work for Barclay and earn 40k a year but Halifax offers me 50k, no matter how well my job is going or how well or badly the company is doing or how much you get along with your colleagues, you would still leave as the company is offering more money. If the same scenario happens again, and Goldman Sachs comes along and offers you 65k plus a company Car, you would leave again. There's no loyalty when it comes to work.

    Footballers are privileged financially speaking, even a league 2 player earns enough to survive and live well. Probably an average of £800 a week which is still great. So since, in this case, Nasri was earning well anyway, when someone came along and offered him more money he took it. No sin in that. We as fans are the deluded ones when we think any player plays for the club. I.E if Jamie Carragher and Steven Gerrard were asked to play for free, I would like to see if they would put up with it. At the end of the day football is a, yes, a business first and a sport second.

    Is Madrid offered arsenal, say 60 Million for Nasri who ha done year left on his contract and lets say Nasri wanted to stay, Arsenal would probably force him to accept and push for a transfer. If clubs can transfer list players even if the player does not want to leave then...you catch my drift?

    Players play for money, similarly we work for money too. There's no loyalty, a company would feel no way in sacking or terminating someones contract, just like you would feel no way to hand in your resignation from work as you have a better job offer at hand.

    Saying that however, I'm not saying that is not annoying, because I'm a deluded fan as well at times so I expect loyalty too, but if we are realistic, we can be upset when our fav player leaves (Torres) but if we were them then most likely we would do the same. Heck, if I was a Liverpool player and was on a 10k a week contract and Everton offered me 150k a week then hahahahaha I Would be gone so quick that even my shadow would not be able to catch up. And I could always say that the club forced me to accept (Lie of course) but you catch my drift. Look at Andy Carroll, apparently he did not want to leave Newcastle for Liv but because the transfer fee was so juicy, Newcastle made him take it. (Ithink?). So yea, that's my opinion anyway, theres no loyalty in football so let's not be surprised when Suarez does a Torres. Torres came out with the exact same statement as Suarez ( I want to be here for a long time etc...) watch if Barca makes a 45 Mill offer and watch his head be spun around ! Anyway, love your site Jamie. Keep it up bro. 

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  141. *Saying that however, I'm not saying that is not annoying, because I'm a deluded fan as well at times so I expect loyalty too, but if we are realistic, we shouldn't be upset when our fav player leaves (Torres) but if we were them then most likely we would do the same

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