In April, a report in the Daily Express claimed that Liverpool were planning a £14m summer offer for on-loan Manchester United striker Javier Hernandez, and with the transfer window officially opening in two weeks, Hernandez has made it clear that he is open to a move this summer.
When asked recently about leaving Madrid and (potentially) Manchester United, Hernandez told The Mirror:
“I want to join a team where I can play and get minutes. If I can do that at Manchester United or another club, I’ll be happy. First-team football is my priority over anything else.”
Over the years, several United players - including Gabriel Heinze and Dimitar Berbatov - have been linked with moves to Liverpool, but no player has directly transferred between the two clubs since 1964, so it's safe to predict that there is practically zero chance of a deal taking place.
Man United affiliation aside, however, Hernandez could be a decent signing, for the following reasons:
* 79 goals/assists in 154 appearances for Man Utd (1 every 1.9 games), which is very good.
* Hernandez's record at Madrid is also impressive, and he's once again averaging a a goal or an assist every 1.9 games (15 goals/assists in 29 apps).
* Rarely injured, which is (or should be) a priority selection criterion for Liverpool when considering a new striker.
* Proven in the Premier League, so settling-in shouldn't be a problem.
* Experience in two of Europe's best leagues.
* Champions League experience with Man Utd and Madrid.
* Still only 26, which means he's coming into the prime of his career.
As his stats show, Hernandez is clearly a massive upgrade on Lambortelli; the Mexican basically guarantees a certain level of goals and assists, and the fact he's maintained his creative average in two separate leagues is a good indicator of probable success.
According to Spurs legend Glen Hoddle, Hernandez is the perfect signing for Liverpool. In a recent column for Zap Sportz, Hoddle urged Liverpool to sign the 26-year old. He explained:
“It would make sense for Liverpool to go for Hernandez. He is not going to be starter for Real. [Against Juve], he played a little deeper, put in a couple of dangerous crosses, and looked sharp and eager.”
Real Madrid legend Emilio Butragueno is also a fan of Hernandez, and in a recent interview, he highlighted the striker's main qualities.
"[Hernandez] is an incredible player, and a fighter. Javier trains well and is a great professional, but the competition for places is very tough. He is a great forward, when he has played he has responded".
As Luis Suarez, Jackson Martinez, and a whole host of others attest, Latin American players in Europe seem to be incredibly robust, and with Daniel Sturridge constantly injured, a player like Hernandez could be just what the doctor ordered.
Worth pursuing this summer?
Author: Jaimie K
When asked recently about leaving Madrid and (potentially) Manchester United, Hernandez told The Mirror:
“I want to join a team where I can play and get minutes. If I can do that at Manchester United or another club, I’ll be happy. First-team football is my priority over anything else.”
Over the years, several United players - including Gabriel Heinze and Dimitar Berbatov - have been linked with moves to Liverpool, but no player has directly transferred between the two clubs since 1964, so it's safe to predict that there is practically zero chance of a deal taking place.
Man United affiliation aside, however, Hernandez could be a decent signing, for the following reasons:
* 79 goals/assists in 154 appearances for Man Utd (1 every 1.9 games), which is very good.
* Hernandez's record at Madrid is also impressive, and he's once again averaging a a goal or an assist every 1.9 games (15 goals/assists in 29 apps).
* Rarely injured, which is (or should be) a priority selection criterion for Liverpool when considering a new striker.
* Proven in the Premier League, so settling-in shouldn't be a problem.
* Experience in two of Europe's best leagues.
* Champions League experience with Man Utd and Madrid.
* Still only 26, which means he's coming into the prime of his career.
As his stats show, Hernandez is clearly a massive upgrade on Lambortelli; the Mexican basically guarantees a certain level of goals and assists, and the fact he's maintained his creative average in two separate leagues is a good indicator of probable success.
According to Spurs legend Glen Hoddle, Hernandez is the perfect signing for Liverpool. In a recent column for Zap Sportz, Hoddle urged Liverpool to sign the 26-year old. He explained:
“It would make sense for Liverpool to go for Hernandez. He is not going to be starter for Real. [Against Juve], he played a little deeper, put in a couple of dangerous crosses, and looked sharp and eager.”
Real Madrid legend Emilio Butragueno is also a fan of Hernandez, and in a recent interview, he highlighted the striker's main qualities.
"[Hernandez] is an incredible player, and a fighter. Javier trains well and is a great professional, but the competition for places is very tough. He is a great forward, when he has played he has responded".
As Luis Suarez, Jackson Martinez, and a whole host of others attest, Latin American players in Europe seem to be incredibly robust, and with Daniel Sturridge constantly injured, a player like Hernandez could be just what the doctor ordered.
Worth pursuing this summer?
Author: Jaimie K
I like Hernandez, Think he's totally underrated by Utd......But, if we would rightly refuse to selll to them, why could we expect them to sell to us....
ReplyDeleteHernandez and Tevez would be fabulously satisfying business.
ReplyDeleteSergio Aguero? Not a medical advice thats for sure!
ReplyDeleteNow he's head at Real Madrid, we need Rafa to do us a little favour...
ReplyDelete...he needs to do the player equivalent of a property 'flip'...
..buy Hernandez for cheaps (12 mill) and sell to us the next day for 14 mill...
...we'd be happy - Real would be happy getting 2 mill free - rafa be happy deep in his soul helping LFc out - Man U would be livid and pissed....
....great all round...
...now all we need is a 'party' to go and sell it to everyone...anyone in...?
This a is truly unrealistic optimistic perspective
ReplyDeleteBro, you need to get out of your comfort zone a bit more often.. ;)
ReplyDeleteTrue, but just can't see it happening, there's a lot of factors in between that you have to consider and all in all may not be feasible, nice idea tho!
ReplyDeleteListen man - really, I do understand what you sayin'...but...
ReplyDeletefirstly, its not about whether I think it will happen or not.
Secondly, I dare to dream...
Thirdly, in business all kinds of sh*t goes on; under the table deals, 'presents', selling grandma...
Fourthly, he who dares, wins...
Let me explain the above by analogy...
...the last time someone replied to a comment of mine with: 'that, DinMan, is a truly unrealistic optimistic perspective'....I went home with a really, really hot girl.... :)
Listen man - really, I do understand what you sayin'...but...
ReplyDeletefirstly, its not about whether I think it will happen or not.
Secondly, I dare to dream...
Thirdly, in business all kinds of sh*t goes on; under the table deals, 'presents', selling grandma...
Fourthly, he who dares, wins...
Let me explain the above by analogy...
...the last time someone replied to a c0mment of mine with: 'that, DinM*n, is a truly unrealistic optimistic perspective'....I went home with a really, really hot girl.... :)
Hey Jainie, any reason why a totally innocuous reply was eaten by your guards....?
ReplyDeletethis happens when people reply to me;)
ReplyDeleteOk, Siavash, tell me that was tongue in cheek or are you serious...?
ReplyDeletehappened the other day with Logan now i may have some kinda supernatural ability which frankly i'm completely unaware of!
ReplyDeleteNumber one, Logan should know better by now what gets through the 'draw-bridge' and what doesn't...
ReplyDelete...secondly, dude, if that is the case you need to tap into said supernatural ability and tell me what the next lottery numbers are....;)
Like the idea of tevez and Hernandez up front but none of them will for Liverpool and bogers. Liverpool as a club and its history used to be able to attract players but bogers has destroyed that. Now we have Ings and origi. Both players together won't score 15 goals next season. Huge holes in Liverpool's spine since reina, Carra, Stevie and Suarez left. That four are not and will not be replaced with bogers as manager. Plain and simple.
ReplyDeleteI see you're a red batman yourself;)
ReplyDeleteHey cool Case...If i remember correct it was Mike Aitchison and myself having a conversation and he mentioned Schrodinger...clever man...Mike that is...
ReplyDelete..ps..great picture...is that what the end of a summer's day fishing looks like...?
the only way this could happen if their was a swap deal with Sterling....I think it would be a good deal
ReplyDeleteI strongly disagree. 5 years ago, maybe, but neither of them are the players they were. Hernandez has lost his buzzing movement and enthusiasm, and he lacks quality to lead the line. He's also too lightweight. Tevez is past his prime, lacks sharpness and pace. You've got to find the *next* Tevez, not the last one. He's not up to a premier league season any more, in all likelihood, and he's a shadow of the player he once was.
ReplyDelete...I fill in for him when he's on holiday...but we have an agreement...I must wear red...
ReplyDeletePerfectly stated, Stan.
ReplyDeleteLong, long post incoming here mate. Brace yourself. I got excited.
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Glad we see eye-to-eye on Kova. Comparison to Silva is a bit rich for my blood -- I'd be happy with an Oxlade-Chamberlain I think! But yeah, super player. A creative three of Kovacic, Coutinho, Lallana behind Origi or Sturridge, say; or a midfield three of Kovacic, Can, Henderson, behind Ings, Origi, Lallana; these are practical possibilities we might see next season, and it all starts to look rather tasty to me. Throw in Milner as an additional and very classy option in virtually any of those positions barring CF, and Ibe from the bench, and for me this is our best squad since the turn of the century.
Lallana I've high hopes for in the coming campaign. Some of the things he's doing now are very impressive. Reminds me of Thomas Muller in some respects, the way he runs in tirelessly behind and engages in pressing beyond the call of duty. I think the goals are sure to come, and I anticipate he'll be one of those refreshed by Gerrard's departure.
I hope you realise that by current Italian standards that game was a feast of end-to-end attacking football and non-stop high-speed action! Italian football is a bit dreadful isn't it, though Juventus were barely in gear for much of the game, saving themselves for the CL final. I think my favourite part of the match was Vidic being outpaced by Morata (was it?) for the Juve penalty. Quite comical -- he must have had a 20 yard headstart. Kova was so far ahead of some of his team mates it was ridiculous -- and of course Inter play with 2 DMs... I mean, you can have as many DMs as you like, but if one of them is Gary Medel, then you are limiting what your side can do right there, aren't you?
I'm not sure about this DM lark. I think we all mean different things and have different kinds of players in mind when we use that term anyway. Looking at Juve, Bayern, Real, and Barcelona, the CL semi finalists, all excellent sides, they all have variation in their midfields. There are few players you could point at there and say: *that*'s the definition of a DM; maybe only Mascherano, who of course plays CD for Barcelona. Alonso is used tactically at Bayern as a playmaker; Busquets is involved in a lot of play; Pirlo is a regista supported by all-action colleagues like Vidal and Pereyra (who I'm starting to rate, by the way); Real have so much variety under Ancelotti, we've even seen Sergio Ramos playing as an anchor man, Khedira as a deep (really just slow) CM...
None of them play with anything like a stable, fixed DM of Lucas's type, patrolling between the lines. The emphasis is much more on midfield team-work winning the ball back through pressure and manipulating the space. If we get a DM, for me it has to be a player who can contribute to every phase of play, who is capable of offering some kind of goal threat or causing problems for the opposition, or working in a rotational midfield which will keep the essential element of unpredictability, changing the angles of attack as we work it out from the back. So adaptable, energetic, technical players with great athleticism and intelligence, like Nainggolan, Xhaka, Pereyra, Illaramendi, these kind of guys are going to be more use to us than an out-and-out destroyer I think.
There's plenty of value to be had in the market for that position, so I'm not to worried about it really. The make-or-break signings will be in defence. For me we need two players there, and they have to be serious, for real players. That's what's going to make the difference for us between 6th and 3rd. We have to stop the opposition fancying their chances of opening us up with pressure, because too many of the mid-table sides line up against us fancying their chances from set-pieces and a high press.
Bodgers... hahaha that's priceless.... so clever...you crease me up you really do..
ReplyDeleteWe haven't attracted big players for far longer than 3 years you know. Who was the last really top notch player to come here?
For me this isn't quite the right question. Very few players could do what you are asking for here. But both these players will *multiply* the effectiveness of others they play with, because of the specific qualities they will bring to the side, and improve the overall team performance, which is what really matters, which is what will actually decide where we end up.
ReplyDeleteAnd let's not forget that we don't have to improve by much over the course of a whole season in order to get where we want to be. We weren't far off this season, despite our terrible start, and there are players with real momentum in that squad. I absolutely expect us to perform better than last season.
I don't see any reason for pessimism at all. We can expect better seasons from our improving players in important positions, players who are now the leaders of the team: Henderson, Coutinho, Sakho; and our newer signings from last season, Lovren Moreno, Lallana, Can, will all be more settled and able to contribute fully from the start of the season. If all remains as it is presently, we will go into the season with stability -- with a squad and team structure in which the players know their jobs and each other -- which was not the case last year, and with some new signings and new coaches eager to make an impact.
Overall, I wouldn't be surprised if we were to improve by between 10 and 15 points on this year's finish, which should see us somewhere near where we would all like to be.
He would do great here. Very good player- he is top 10 on the goals per minute list of EPL. But just doesn't feel right..
ReplyDeleteRighteous.
ReplyDeleteI am seriously thinking about that question and I think it was Torres. The only reason he din't end up in Barca or Real and wasn't regarded as highly as he should've been is not scoring vs Real. It was surely that, but he always played well against them but scoring in that match is never easy.. Really top notch before coming.
ReplyDeleteAbsolutely! Get him! He is a great player at the prime age of his career who hasn't had a lot of wear and tear over the last two years. He is comfortable alone or playing with another striker. He is sturdy...and he knows how to finish!
ReplyDeleteCould be gas.
ReplyDeleteFor me,hernandez has been playing for the top 3 teams in every league. Manu were always top 3 so were real Madrid. And theses teams have chance creators in the team.BR system "heavily "depends on his strikers playing world class football. Hernandez will flop just like "lambortelli ".
ReplyDeleteMexico is North America.
ReplyDeleteGeography people, where I came from it was a big deal.
Even he was an up and coming rather than absolutely top player although Athletico did regard him very highly. His recognition came when he played his first season for us in truth. He himself credited Rafa for helping make the final step, by improving his runs and timings and so on.
ReplyDeleteBut even allowing for that, this was back in 2007, 8 years ago. That Rodgers guy scuppered all the rest don't you know..even the one for the previous 5 years before he arrived.
Some fans need to wake up and realise our position in the scheme of things. Most of these players were in junior school or just at the start of high school, aged 10 11 or 12 when we won the CL.
And weren't even born when we last won the PL (1st division)
They will not sell even james wilson to us...forget about hernandez
ReplyDeleteYou better get yo a55 out on the town tonight then my man.
ReplyDeleteI'd say Central, but whatever.
ReplyDeleteSo Benteke it is @ £ 32.5 m
ReplyDeleteHe is going to score loads of goals especially with us being the team with the least amount of crosses in the League :-o
ReplyDeleteThey might sell to us in the hope that we sell Sterling to them?
ReplyDeleteWe get hernandez and then tell them sterling off elsewhere. ....
United will not sell him to us - full stop. Tevez is also unattainable because we missed Top 4 The only suprise buy could be R Falcoa - Mourinho desperate to get him
ReplyDeleteGood player and will be a massive improvement on Borini, Balo, Aspas and Lambert but ain't going to happen.
ReplyDeleteThen we will loan him back to villa next season and then sell him for 8m.
ReplyDeleteexactly my suspicion
ReplyDeleteIf FSG are ready to pay him 150k-180k per week I think it is possible.
ReplyDeleteLove it. Rafa would do it but can't see Real agreeing to it. They want to be able to buy their best players from time to time
ReplyDeleteSo Chelsea apparently laughing at the valuation of a reported £50m for Sterling. I am laughing at that valuation too.
ReplyDeleteSterling wants to go so no point keeping an unhappy player. Take £30m, pay QPR their 25% and run.
UTD will not sell to us.
ReplyDeleteBen Smith @BenSmithBBC
ReplyDelete#LFC have made enquiry for Charlton's highly-rated midfielder Joe Gomez. Bid imminent. Liverpool willing to pay £3.5m
Ben Smith @BenSmithBBC
Expect Gomez, if he does go to Anfield, to be loaned out next season. Great prospect, plenty of interest
Most likely will never have any chance of making the first team at LFC if he does sign.
Just looked at who Man U are likely to get this Summer and compared it to our potential buys - fetch me that Jack Daniels Number 7 love
ReplyDeleteIts only 3.5 mill we should be thinking ok as long it wont hamper our spending on quality if we can get any to come.
ReplyDeleteFleece em for all they are worth FFP is relaxed make the oil barons spend and spend big if they really want him they will pay.
ReplyDelete"As Luis Suarez, Jackson Martinez, and a whole host of others attest, South American players seem to be incredibly robust" - one of the most ridiculous sweeping generalisations I have ever read. One can point to whether Hernandez is sturdy / hardy (and that would be very relevant) but to generalise across a whole continent (you'd have to analyse the entire footballing ranks from the region to conclude that) is going way too far, not to mention that Hernandez is not even South American. But to the important matter - would be a good signing but the chances of Utd selling to us would be minimal at best. How about Hernandez + £30m for Sterling who could go to Manure, could that fly? Another question I'd be keen to hear views on is whether (if we had the choice) we should choose Benteke for £30m or Austin for £15m
ReplyDeleteNobody is going to pay £50m for Sterling so either sell him now for a logical price or see him stay another season and then sell him for half the logical price we could get now.
ReplyDeleteLlori 7mn, Coates 6mn, Gomez 3.5mn.....if you sum it all up...its not OK. I don't think we should buy youngsters just to send them out on loan and then sell it for a loss. If we want to buy youngsters just for the sake of numbers than we should target cheaper (under 1mn) ones. However, if Liverpool are smart then they will keep Coates. He is an upgrade on Lovren (not too difficult tbh). If he leaves then he will be massive player for Sunderland. We will be linked with him again after two years, mark my words.
ReplyDeleteThe window hasnt officially opened and you are panicking saying sell sell sell sell geez be patient you complain about our dealings but arent willing to screw them for whatever we can get.
ReplyDeleteMilner, Henderson, Coutinho, Lallana, Sterling
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That's one awesome looking midfield. All we need now is awesome DM and ST.
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In defensive positions we need a GK and LB.
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Sorted for top 4. Hope BR plays them right.
Mon Calamari?
ReplyDeleteCoates will never be a Liverpool player he is not good enough neither is Lovren its not the point about buying young players and loaning them.
ReplyDeleteChelsea do it and have had some goodies its the youngsters we are getting the scoutings been rubbish.
It does not matter if the window is not open yet. All teams are making signings. Transfers can be agreed on at this very point and once the window is open the player has his medical and the deal is finalised.
ReplyDeleteThe point remains, nobody is going to pay £50m for Sterling.
So we should just lay down like sheep with months to go until the window closes a lot of deals are done late.
ReplyDeleteYou complain about us being robbed over transfers yet expect us to just lay down and let them take us thats weak.
Awesome looking midfield?
ReplyDeleteIf the Kovacic deal does not happen then expect our midfield 3 too look like this
Milner Henderson Allen
No defensive midfielder will be signed under Rodgers. He does not believe LFC require one.
Sterling won't be there so replace him and Lallana (who seems to be rotated) with Ibe / Markovic. Also Can needs to be in midfield as he is a calamity at RB so adding Allen and Lucas for some occasional rotation we have plenty of midfielders. Issue is for some reason Bodgers does not seem to want a big physical DM that can boss the oppo - Allen and Lucas are too slow and give the ball away and concede too many fouls. Could Can fulfill that role?
ReplyDeleteSterling does not want to stay. City have already made a £30m bid and LFC rejected it.
ReplyDeleteThey are going to make an improved bid of £50m when they can go sign a ready made player from elsewhere?
It s not about laying down and being robbed. It is about LFC being ignorant when we have a player who has 2 years left on his contract, wants to leave, is not worth £50m.
LFC are the ones taking the mickey out of other clubs expecting £50m for Sterling. It is laughable.
I call BS on the Kovacic deal but would like to see Allen get the boot if we did sign another mid.
ReplyDeleteLovren wanted out of South ham Bale out of Tottenham even, ding ding ding ding ding say slots machine.
ReplyDeleteThe Kovacic fee has been agreed. It has been reported all over.
ReplyDeleteSo obviously you believe we will get £50m for Sterling?
ReplyDeleteYou just made a comment that came from your arse. Lol you clearly didn't watch either of their 2015 seasons. I suggest you go watch their personal highlights for each game on You2ube. You know the ones that shows all their touches? And then after a little research make your comment.
ReplyDeletei am still hopeful for a player plus cash i know its very rare but i have the feeling that last season we may have been able to snare a player cash deal from Barca.
ReplyDeleteHe is not worth 50 mill no, but when has worth been so important to the oil barons or even us.
The homegrown rule does push his value up also.
Its all BS Logan why would him and the manager deny it.
ReplyDeleteyou would believe anything.
ReplyDeletePlayer plus cash is not going to happen.
ReplyDeleteSterling and LFC are finished. To go and drag the situation any further just explains how desperate and illogical this club is in the transfer market.
If Chelsea are showing us the finger at £50m then you why would other teams be interested in paying that? They can go sign a ready made, top quality player for that and so can City.
For years now we have been the most inept team when it comes to selling and buying players. Getting £75m for Suarez means bugger all when all that has happened is the money being wasted.
Bcuz we are middling club with no ambition. The owners, a useless piece of garbage manager and roster full of overrated british crap are a major deterrent to any top player wanting come here rather than go play CL ball. Lets face it .. due to Suarez's previous biting incidents there were not a lot of clubs banging down his door. We got very lucky. Then proceeded to surround him with garbage and drove him away. Based on the current crap ...err.. crop of signings we are going to be lucky to finish in the top 10 next season. All we have left is a "history" that has produced jack shit in the last decade..
ReplyDeleteSo if the scouting is rubbish....stop buying young players!!
ReplyDeleteAre you sitting on the board if not dont tell me what is possible you have no answers to anything at all even suggestions.
ReplyDeleteSorry 1 sack the manager apart from from that you are just an enabler Logan.
Can is a backup for Henderson am afraid. Not sure he is defensively good enough for DM role. We definitely need a new DM and Lucas as its backup. Allen looks good with that beard though!! trying to look strong...;-)
ReplyDeleteNo get new scouts.
ReplyDeleteWell if you want to call it BS then that is fine.
ReplyDeleteIf I believed everything then obviously I am expecting Falcao to join which has been reported that he wants to come to LFC.
That is what I call BS.
Yes, that is your opinion because you believe Rodgers deserves another season.
ReplyDeleteMany are not on board with you and majority want him gone. So much for my negativity...
The majority are not always right thats the failings of democracy.
ReplyDeleteAnd the failings of LFC since we last won the title?
ReplyDeleteThat is what you call mediocrity and is what the fans who 'are not always right' have to put up with season after season.
What do you suggest we do with player transfers so far its ok not super but ok.
ReplyDeleteBut until then...??
ReplyDeleteLFC will not win the League with Milner, Ings and Bogdan, simple fact.
ReplyDeleteIMO it is highly unlikely that we will make the top 4 either with these signings.
What are your expectations this coming season?
We do not even have new coaching staff as yet.
ReplyDeleteWe wont win the league regardless but i am hoping a decent forward a winger and def mid will be enough to get us top 4.
ReplyDeleteSack em today.
ReplyDeleteYes of course, sell Sterling for £50m cough cough and use that money to sign whom?
ReplyDeleteDefensive mid ain't going to happen at this point, not under Rodgers.
I would sell Allen there is also 5 or 6 others to sell chuck in 30 mill voila the players we need.
ReplyDeleteHow many players that the fans want get signed by LFC?
ReplyDeleteAny 'marquee' players which Rodgers would like to call them is a pipe dream. Has not happened once since he arrived and will not happen either. Instead we will either go bargain hunting or overpay for players again like we have since Rodgers arrived.
The tone has been set. Any players we are having a look at at this point will notice that we have a manager who has failed, is on holiday and had his backroom staff removed and still not replaced. That is a great way of attracting players ain't it.The signings of Milner, Ings and Bogdan make clear sense now.
They are ok acquisitions Milner will be especially hany if Hendo is indisposed Ings is a good young project and we will see on Bogdan.
ReplyDeleteForgot to mention Migs should be replaced.
Look Logan i have hated our recruiting for seasons now esp summer windows and i have made it known.
There is nothing more id like than to bump into John Henry and tell him what i think even though it prob wouldnt make any difference.
It would be naive to believe that John W Henry has not noticed that majority want Rodgers gone.
ReplyDeleteI dont doubt it.,
ReplyDeleteSo why then keep quite after removing his backroom staff. Not tell us the club working on replacements. Not say one word about Rodgers still being in the plans. Not one word from Rodgers either. After his backroom staff have been removed?
ReplyDeleteIf this is the way the club is being run then FSG are taking the piss out of the fans.
There is nothing either way whether to suggest FSG or Rodgers had them removed i wouldnt be surprised if FSG has gagged Rodgers.
ReplyDeleteBut that is the problem ain't it. Nobody knows the reasons for what has happened and we still do not know what is going to happen.
ReplyDeleteWell there is always reasons why but i am not sure what they are i will see Rodgers in Adelaide.
ReplyDelete17th of July it is then. Assuming he still in fact has the job by then of course especially when bugger all is being said by the club.
ReplyDeleteYep thats right wwell there is no certainly no guarantee he will be manager hope its a good atmosphere last years was a great atmosphere not a real spectacle though.
ReplyDeleteFriendlies are hardly a spectacle but the atmosphere should be a good one when most do not get the opportunity to see LFC live on the pitch.
ReplyDeleteLast year i was ill but still went until about 10 mins after half time watched the replay though 100,000 in Melbourne Adelaide is about 55 thousand Melbourne played their second side which was a disgrace.
ReplyDeleteMate I would really love to have your optimistic view on things but there are too many ifs in your post for me. We can't just assume the likes of Henderson, Sakho and Coutinho will further lift their game (well I can see Cou doing it and then leave next summer). We also can't rely on the fact that Lallana, Markovic etc will. They may, or they may not. I can't think of many players we signed and who became a success after having a poor season like most of the ones you mentioned. For every Henderson (who is still by no means of CL quality) there are Downing, Carrol, Jose Enrique, Charlie Adam. Most of the players who have really been great signings, never needed more than half a season. Mascherano, Alonso, Torres, Suarez, Skrtel, Agger, Hyypia...they got it right from the start. I just can't share your optimism based on what I know and based on what we've seen from Rodgers and the TC over the last three years. I have no expectations for next season. If we finish eight, I won't even be surprised. But I do know it will hurt like hell seeing us outfought by the likes of Bournemouth and played of the pitch by the likes of Arsenal (and the others I don't even want to think about let alone mention). To me, Ings and Milner are players for Villa, West Ham, Newcastle or Stoke. They would be the pick of the litter at those clubs. At Liverpool, I want to see players who can set the stadium alight. Milner and Ings won't do that for you. The things is, I don't think they're bad players. When Milner came on against us the season before last in the game that "won us the title" he really opened us up and really hurt us. So I would be more than happy to have him if the rest of our squad also consisted out of Yaya, Silva and Kompany. But it doesn't and for what we need, Milner is not good enough imo.
ReplyDeleteOh yeah Stan...
ReplyDeleteBoth LFC and me...we love punching well above our weight.. ;-)
Great post, Eric, thanks for replying. I hear you, and I would also like to see some extra quality come in, particularly in defence, where it seems to me we most need additional strength.
ReplyDeleteBut the particular players I mentioned, especially Moreno, Can and Lallana, for different reasons, I think have momentum in their development and will come through stronger next season -- players at their stage of development are virtually always *better* in their second seasons after their big move, and the present coaching emphasis on development, on learning and growing as players, will support that process.
Those three all have absolutely top quality in them. I'm very surprised when people don't rate Lallana, he really is a very good player. The same is true of Coutinho, Henderson and Sakho. Their maturing has been great to watch so far and I hope to see them go from strength to strength in the next couple of years. Henderson is becoming a dominant midfield force in the premier league; all three of them are in the top 10 players in their positions in the league, are very strong and good characters, and look to me to have what it takes to improve further.
For me the league is harder now than it used to be and it's more difficult for a player to turn up and make an impact just because he is proficient at what he does, which was the case in the past. Suarez for example didn't actually make an immediate impact. We've seen players like Di Maria, Oezil, Lamela, Soldado, Felipe Luis, Navas, etc come into the league and really struggle. Even from 10 down you have teams like those you mention who are technically and tactically competent and pose a real challenge. You need to get your expectations right to be able to judge when a player's doing well; we've got to be more flexible in our assessments, I think, than we used to be.
I'm absolutely sure you underrate Ings, who will be a very good player for us and I have little doubt will develop into a fan favourite because of his on-field demeanour and flair. Milner is just an excellent footballer. I have no problem whatsoever with Liverpool signing excellent footballers! Silva in particular benefitted from Milner's understanding, appreciation, and work-rate. Milner's movement and team-play made Silva a better player. He sees things at the same level as the very best, and our creative players will feel the benefit.
I remember you, you're the fella that likes to describe Brendan Rodgers as "cancer" aren't you. If I recall correctly, that was just before we went on a 13 game unbeaten run in the league. Excuse me if I don't have much respect for your opinions about football, or about anything else.
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ReplyDeleteGomez is being bought as a replacement for Coates, that is being sold to Sunderland for 3.5m, half his purchase price of 7m .
ReplyDeleteNot making to much sense all these bad deals ?
I think he would be 25 mill at least.... but perfect for LFC style: mobile, quick and good stats.
ReplyDeleteLucky you, you have love and Jacky..
ReplyDeletePoster named Simon wrote this and I think everybody should think about it before spitting on our recruitments-
ReplyDeleteLallana, our pricey winger- £20 million, and £60k p/w) it comes to about £134k p/w.......
Di Maria, manu pricey winger- £60 million, and £280k p/w it comes to £511k p/w......
Our position in scheme of things is- rely on being Liverpool to make the players fight like crazy and hope that one of those gamble signings will get us in the CL and that manager will keep us there. And in three years from the first of consecutive CL seasons hope(and demand) we are close to winning every competition we play in.
Really, Bogers- that's great.. You have more of that?
ReplyDeleteYou make some very good points and I agree with you that a player like Lallana doesn't become less good overnight. On the other hand, he didn't switch leagues. Sakho did look stronger last season but he also picked up quite a few injuries and I don't think we should rely on players who get injured that much. Same goes for Lallana and Sturridge by the way. Can, I wholeheartedly agree on but I'm afraid he'll have to endure another season of being moved around the pitch because Rodgers signings don't work out. Ings, I'm sure, is not a bad striker but just doesn't have the skills required to play total football. I can't see him move about the pitch the way Suarez did. Milner, again, I agree is a very good football player but in a team with ambition, like City is, he can only be a bit part player. That is not what he will be for us. We will ask him to be something he is not. He is no Steven Gerrard. He is no Yaya Touré. He's a worker, a grafter, a racehorse. He is....Dirk Kuijt. Dirk Kuijt who needs to be Steven Gerrard. I can't see it happening 38 games a season. I really do agree with a lot you say. Guys like Lallana, Sakho (if they can stay fit), Can, Coutinho and Henderson, hell even Mignolet can be part of a very good team. But we have to supplement them with Yaya's, Tevez's, Vietto's. And then Ings's and Milners'.
ReplyDeleteTthis is gold mate i agree 100% and i even had a great laugh reading this.
ReplyDeleteI would be happy to attend a party to celabrate a move like this.
Brilliant and funny this could work someone ring Rafa.
I believe this would be a great piece of business caues Hernandez is a very dangerous player he pops up when no one is expecting him to and he gets into the right positions to create problems for defenders.
ReplyDeleteI would be happy to see him play for us and all he wants is to play football consistantly, unfortunately i really can't see United agreeing.
I hear he is useful too. I just hope he has personality. It seems the PlayStation/ Android generation fails to produce leaders.
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