9 Jun 2012

Wing star admits: I would leave if a 'serious' offer came in. Should LFC bid...?

France winger Hatem Ben Arfa has been a revelation at Newcastle United, but despite being 'settled' at the club, he's admitted that he could leave if a 'big club' came in for him over the summer. Given Liverpool's lack of real attacking quality at the moment, should the club be looking at Ben Arfa as a potential recruit?

Speaking to Sky Sports yesterday, Ben Arfa - who is currently at Euro 2012 with France - said:

"If I don't have a really very, very serious proposition, I will stay [At Newcastle].

"If a big club comes but doesn't propose me something very exciting, which means the coach really wants me, I will stay. If I don't feel trust from the coach at 100 per cent, I will not leave"


Prior to Ben Arfa's move to Newcastle, Liverpool were heavily linked with a possible move, and if Ben Arfa was 100% committed to Newcastle then surely he would just say 'I'm happy here and don't want to leave'.

The fact that he gives specific examples of what it would take to make him leave suggests that he's more than willing to consider moving to a different club.

Newcastle are a great club, but Liverpool is undoubtedly a bigger club, and if the Reds really wanted Ben Arfa, then I'm sure Brendan Rodgers would be able to convince him to come to Anfield.

What do you think? Should Liverpool pursue Ben Arfa and make a 'serious proposition' for his services?

Jaimie Kanwar


167 comments:

  1. ha ha, he was asked in the french interview if a big club like real madrid or barcelona came in for him.. liverpool.? pissing myself laughing!

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  2. I think when he says big club he means Man U, Man City or maybe Chelsea or Arsenal but Liverpool??? dont think so. Then there's the likes of Barca or Real but I cant see him leaving for a Liverpool team who performed poorly last season and finished below us. Yes they've got the history but have they got the future? I dont think they have.

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  3. Hi, remind me: where did Liverpool and Newcastle finish in the table?

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  4. Haha Deluded bin dippers!! Why would he go to liverfool? When he says "big club I think he means teams like Barcelona, Real Madrid, Man Utd etc.

    Delusion at its very finest.

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  5. when he says 'big club', he means a champions league club

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  6. Scm International11:13 pm, June 09, 2012

    Er............ a big club? In Europe, perhaps? Won't be Liverpool then, will it??

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  7. And they call Geordies deluded! Only one reason any Newcastle player would make that switch this summer. And I doubt Rodgers will be bringing us in players who follow £££'s. Doubt Ben Arfa is that kind of player either. He'd not have signed for them in the first place if he was.

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  8. also why would he move to a team in the same competitions who also finished 3 places lower. (Cue the 'we won a cup' fans... so did birmingham)

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  9. why would he go to a team that finished below newcaslte last season and quite simply arent a good team anymore. welcome to mid-table mediocrity liverpool, hope you enjoy it

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  10. Hahaha Ben Arfa move down the table to Liverpool.

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  11. My god look at all the trolls...lmfao @ the Newcastle fans on here bwaahaahhhahah 1st time you can remember finishing higher than us and youre all cocky haha

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  12. Aha u cant develop your own player dont you?

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  13. Bare in mind that it's translated and doesn't read the same in French. I think this is lost in translation and there is a 0% chance of Ben Arfa leaving Newcastle in the summer. Other than Scott Parker can you name a player who has left NUFC and gone on to do anything decent? Scott Parker...Andy Cole...struggling now....

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  14. Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha. Liverpool's famous for its comedians!

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  15. 5timeswinnersofthecpl11:29 pm, June 09, 2012

    err when was the last time newcastle won something?????

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  16. used to be a big club, we've got a bigger ground and an arguably better starting XI now, big in history and stature but not currently on the pitch (don't even mention the coca-cola cup).

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  17. liverpool big club... ha!

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  18. Another scouser clutching at a bucket load of straws accept what you are now not bloody years ago, but thanks for the 35 million anywhoo  

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  19. Tiptoptoontastic11:39 pm, June 09, 2012

    ha ha ha ha only the deluded LFC , he meant a big club someone like Barcelona or Real Madrid . Why the fuck would he want to join LFC ? 

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  20. Tell me oh my scouse friends what can you offer him what we cant, you will have hounded out buck rogers by the time you get round to even bidding for him, oh nearly forgot you can wheel dogleash out of one of his many oap care homes to tied you over, accept it you are yesterdays chip paper news

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  21. Tiptoptoontastic11:40 pm, June 09, 2012

    Join LFC , ha ha ha are you crazy ? You do realize he meant a club like Real or Barcelona . Why would anyone want to join the shambles that is LFC ?

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  22. A totally ridiculous article, written by a child.

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  23. Liverpool a big club hahahahahaha 8th in the league!

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  24. ahahha, silly scousers. Why would Hatem go to a club which where a player has went in the past 2 seasons has ruined their careers. Stop living in the past and thinking your still a big club. Yous will NEVER be in that 4 for for the next 10 years, stick too your Jordan Hendersons you silly twats, NUFC = 5TH PLACE.

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  25. Peter Beardsley, Alan Kennedy, Terry McDermott

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  26. Why because you have to be in your 50's to remember Newcastle winning anything open to top flight cups

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  27. Would be a good signing sign him up, watch him dump newcastle for us like carroll did

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  28. Liverpool is no way a bigger club than Newcastle. So why would that be a tempting offer. 

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  29. liverpool have got everything in place to get back up there (mainly money) newcastle under ashley havent. youse signed players who had a first good few months at the club, and it happens all the time they cant keep it up. im saying demba ba is shit, but look at what happened second half of the season

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  30. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA.
    HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
    BIG CLUB MY ARSE!
    HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHAHAHAHAHHA LITERALLY IN HYSTERICS RIDICULOUS ARTICLE

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  31. BUNCH OF COMEDIANS THESE SCOUSERS PAHAHAA

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  32. Seriously if you can't spot the irony in your rant you need to get out more. Isn#t it better to have loved and lost than never loved at all? Well we've lost but at least we've won things. Finishing 5th only gets you a Europa League place which is where LFC are.

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  33.  2 Big clubs. No point slinging mud. Will Ben Arfa leave Newcastle for Liverpool? Not a chance.... deluded article. He will stay at Newcastle for 1 more year and if good enough, move to a genuine top club for big bucks.

    Rodger's will have to do something incredible this year for it to be Liverpool.

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  34. Hahahahah having a laugh you daft shite? Even if he is shit he's still scored more than any other Liverpool player last season

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  35. Hmm, well done Jamie, LFC a laughing stock again.

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  36. Big club, sounds like a pay rise to me and LFC will undoubtably pay more in wages to him. Funny reading you deluded Barcodes. You have had a good season and you think your somet. Big clubs have a global reach, are in the top 5 football top sellers on the planet. Not one that can only boast 2 FA cup final defeats and one CL qtr final and a 5th place prem finish in the past 10 years. Shall we count what LFC has won in this time? #wakeup

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  37. So Liverpool are a bad club because they've had a few bad seasons? How about Newcastle being relegated two seasons ago or not winning a trophy in fifty years? Man city have had one good season despite spending hAlf a billion on a squad, arsenal haven't won anything in the past eight years. Real Madrid have only just dethroned Barca despite spending a piss take amount each of the past fifteen seasons?. At the end of the day though I think that most of the players at Newcastle would jump ship if they were giving a more lucrative offer elsewhere, Ashley doesn't care about your club he wants to make a profit and the fact that your fans were trying to force him out of the club a few seasons ago sums that up, fickle, deluded fans that only come out of the woodwork when they're team is successful or gets taken over by Arabs. SUPPORT YOUR TEAM THROUGH THICK AND THIN NOT JUST WHEN YOU'VE HAD A GOOD SEASON. Liverpool are in a rough patch but a uefa cup, two FA cups, a champions league win and a another final, two league cups, a super cup in the last 12 years represents a good haul for supposed "shambles of a club" . YNWA

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  38. Better to be has been then never was Ynwa my barcoded friends

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  39. What is your point Kopred, Sh ynwa?

    Are Liverpool going to get Ben Arfa or not? Will he leave a club where he plays with his international teammates, gets 55,000 treating him like a hero, and finished 5th last year for a team with another new manager who finished 12pts behind?

    No.

    Keep banging on about your clubs succesful history in the last century, and we will carry on building a young and talented team for this one.

    RE Ashley and making a profit. Wrong. He kept a premier league squad to get us back up, he sold Carroll because you offered HUGE sums, and with the money we got, wait for it.....

    Ben Arfa, Cabaye, Santon, Ba, Cisse.

    In Graham Carr we Trust! and in Comolli and Dalglish you boys paid for the lot ,thanks for that ;)

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  40. Abc lets name a few tiote collo krul ben arfa cabaye guti all been consistant all season your just pissed that we mugged u of 35 million quid and nicked marv from under ya noses. We don't need mega money to by shite players we have a v good scouting system to bring in better player for less how many did carroll scores to cisse?

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  41. We've got as many top 2 finishes in the prem as you ya numpty. Face it, We're on the rise again and you're not the team you once were. Ben Arfa won't make the same mistake Enrique and Carroll made. Thank god they did though as we've replaced them with much better players

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  42. 1969 actually, but cheers for showing how much of a glory seeker you are pal xxx

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  43. How is Newcastle bigger than the most decorated club in English History??? lol Liverpool have a far greater transfer budget, financial standing, fan-base, World-wide prestige, and Youth academy compared to Newcastle. And we won the Carling cup and where literally millimetres away from the FA cup. Yes liverpool were disappointing in the league but that's the difference in standard that a bigger club has. For Newcastle it is expectation to finish in the top 8. while for liverpool it is expected to finish top 4 every season. 

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  44. ...yet we outsold yous while we were in the championship...idiot

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  45. JOSE ENRIQUE, WE'RE IN THE TOP 5!

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  46. There is that word again LFC4LIFE....

    History.

    Seems to be a lot of Liverpool fans banging on about that.

    Right now we are the 5th best team in the country, you are the 7th. 

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  47. Nufc are proving they are setting the template how to run a succesful club, getting value for money is where it starts, with the fair play rules coming soon liverpool have a great opportunity now to get ahead of the big boys financially, liverpool are a few years away from top 4, u need to stop wasting money on shit and get good value players who want to score at the kop end. If newcastle can do it then i am sure one of the most succesful teams in english history can follow suit! There will be tears in a couple of years time when the likes of chelsea and citeh cant break even and get banned from CL!

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  48. Liverpool a massive club don't make me laugh, yes you have had success in the past but nothing notible of late, oh sorry the Carling Cup which is a shit trophy when any other club wins it but becomes a major trophy when your club wins it.
    You slag Newcastle down but seem to want to buy all of our players eg Carroll and Enrique and in the past have been linked with coloccini.
    We might not have had the success you have had in the past but we are currently building a stable club ready to fight in competitions. You are a club that think you are bigger than you are. We have NO DEBT whereas your club had debts of over £700 million when your greedy American owners were forced to sell the club. U try to buy success by payin silly over inflated prices for mediocre players eg £35 million for Andy Carroll whom was valued at £1 million 6 months previously and has done fuck all since being at you club, (thanks for that by the way) Henderson for £19 million who has also done fuck all. Oh and let's not forget Downing £20 million and has done nothing since arriving at your club.
    You all need to wind your necks in and stop thinking you are something you ain't. Oh and a quick one for Enrique who went on twitter to say he went to Liverpool cause he wanted top 6 football learn to keep ya mouth shut Jose cause it came back to bite you on the arse.

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  49. OK Jaimie, I gave you a hard time over your Reina article, so on this one I'll give you some support.

    Firstly, I think Ben Arfa would be a good acquisition, however, I think that that ship sailed when he went to Newcastle. If he was willing to go to Newcastle, there's got to have been a good chance he would have come to LFC.

    Rodgers would have to do an excellent job of selling his vision for the club to attract Ben Arfa now, and we don't even know if Rodgers would be interested.

    To those that scoff at Liverpool being a big club, you only have to look at clubs like Juventus, to realise that you can slip right off your perch and then get right back up again. Look at Juve now, Serie A champions.

    Whilst you can't live in the past, clubs with a tradition like Liverpool are usually able to find a way back to the top.

    Jaimie said Newcastle are a great club and I agree and they have some of the best supporters who have finally seen a bit of reward for their patience, but there's really no need to insult LFC and their supporters.

    It wasn't so long ago that we were the top ranked team in Europe and we haven't stopped being a big club overnight. One thing that I am confident of with Brendan Rodgers at the helm (and Rafa was my first choice BTW) is that we'll finish next season ahead of Newcastle.

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  50. Only 3 seasons ago liverpool were challenging for the title. lol. Liverpool have the spine. all they need is like 3-4 players and they'll be in the champions league. And Liverpool have the money to spend on such talents. Last season was at the higher limit of newcastle can do. But for liverpool they are closer to their lower limit. Carroll's gonna start a lot better next season than he did last. That I can guarantee.  And do you believe that newcastle are better than chelsea because you finished above them also? Even though they won the champions league and FA cup? 

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  51. Any Nufc fan on here crowing about being bigger than Liverpool etc ,wind your necks in man you arseholes. we have just had a tremendous season,and the fact that we finished above Liverpool and the the fa cup and champions league winners is a massive achievement.

    But the club you are having a go at,win trophies... we dont. whoo would kill for seeing a toon captain lifting a trophy? i would. 

    They had a poor season,but managed to win a cup and get to another final.

    Stop showing us lot who have been following the toon since the 70's up with this shite.
    What i will say though to the lfc fan  further up is,try having our recent history against your own.

    we have never won nowt since 1969,and we still have always pretty much followed our team,especially away from home as most older liverpool fans will confirm.

    And before anybody wants to break out our attendances in the late 70's early 80's. well being in the 2nd division whilst man utd only got about 30k about sums where the country and football was then.

    and before the old one club city one is hoyed in,have a look of the geography of the Tyne,wear area and the unpopulated of countryside in Northumberland and Durham. 

    Sorry for the last bit,which was a rant,but im sick of this delusional tag,i never expect NEWCASTLE UNITED to win,thats why i love them.

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  52. I'm sure Newcastle are delighted he is belittling them like he is .

    Sounds exactly the quality of attitude we need for our upcoming promotion campaigns .

    Those low Magpie low lifes are probably greedily rubbing their penny pinching paws together imagining another transfer fee instead of actual success .

    Newcastle are shlt & absolutely sicken me with their leeching mentality .

    I will be laughing my ass off at them next season when normal service has resumed & they are avoiding relegation & then O'Neill has Sunderland looking down upon them from a European position & possibly even with a domestic cup in their back pockets .

    I expect Ellis to invest heavily this summer , especially after how O’Neill turned them around last season ... watch that space punters , Sunderland are on the up .

     

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  53. Haha, so Newcastle fans try to belittle Liverpool aswell as Arsenal.

    Both clubs are a major step up from Newcastle. Liverpool haven't had the best few years, but are a miles bigger club than Newcastle. There's just no comparison. 

    Toon fans seem to be getting carried away based on one good season. Good luck trying to replicate that next season when you have to balance the delights of the Europa League with trying to scrap your way to Premier League points. As soon as big clubs sniff around any of your top players, they'll be off. You can relax, though, most of your players are nowhere near as good as you believe them to be and won't improve the majority of top sides, so don't expect too many big offers coming in.

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  54. Firstly I'm not stating Newcastle are bigger than Liverpool or vice versa, as it all depends on what way you look at it.

    But we all know who these 'big clubs' are Man Utd/City/Chelsea (due to money and ability to buy a new competitive team) and also the euro teams Real/Barca/Munich (prob a couple more that I failed to mention). I love the fact that Liverpool fans still think they are in this group. This is prob the reason why so many nufc fans are replying to this, as I seriously doubt Ben Arfa meant he wanted to play for a club in almost the exact same league position and the same European comp. And I seriously doubt any of the 'big' clubs would need to recruit managers from Swansea/Wigan

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  55. nicked marv? HAHAHAHAHAHA the guy who failed a medical at liverpool then signed with newcastle with no medical at all.
    then played 10 games cos he got injured.
    funny stuff.

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  56.  LoL ...

    Cheeky wee turn there at the end lad .


    I see Sunderland have cleared out & made a lot of space in their squad already .

    I can see O’Neill plundering some of the best from this summers Euro Championships with Ellis Shorts support , not necessarily the Western European sides neither , I can see then plundering a few of the more proficient Eastern technicians , look how he used Petrov at both Celtic & Villa , O'Neill has a keen eye .

    Short certainly hasn’t been afraid to invest in his club so far thats for sure & O'Neill took Celtic to a final in Europe after dominating Scotland with similar backing to what Ellis Short appears to be willing to provide .

    You reckon he is capable of taking Sunderland to that level ?

    O'Neill loves being the underdog , he loves the challenge , its the cantankerous Ulster in him , you canne tell me you Magpies arent worried about them .

    "Fightin Irish" with young ambitious Yank money backing them at boardroom level ?

    I think they will be upsetting more than just Newcastle next season .

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  57. I'm not convinced that Ben Arfa would consider moving to Liverpool a very serious or interesting enough offer. We've had three very disappointing seasons now and don't look even close to CL football. Rodgers is a new face who has yet to even show the beginnings of what he could do at Liverpool. I think Arfa would want Rodgers personally coming to his house and telling him that he'd be a regular star of any new Liverpool team. So that's entirely up to the manager and it seems a bit pointless to speculate. It's like asking if we think Rodgers is desperately interested in having Arfa come to LFC. I don't know that. 

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  58. Depends, if you can keep McLean and Ses and add add a good striker then you will be in and around the 6-8 spot. But a bit of luck you could be a bit higher. Your only issue is if it doesnt happen this transfer window and you finish the same place next season then these players will prob want to move on for euro football. But that's just my opinion.

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  59.  I'm LFC mate not SAFC , but I like to put my money on long shots every now & again & I like the way things are shaping up at yer next door neighbors .

    O'Neill takes unfancied players & gets them believing in themselves as individuals like he done with Heskey & Muzzy Izzet at Lecister , Alan Thompson & Chris Sutton at Celtic & Downing & Young at Villa , then he gets them fighting for each other & then he gets them setting their sights on the big boys , which is what he really loves , and he gets them challenging at every club he goes to , he always gets them punching above their weight .

    Forget top 8 when O'Neill is in town , I can tell you right now he has his hungry eyes right on Europe , he won the European Cup as a player & has managed two Clubs that have won the European Cup .

    O’Neill is a down & dirty street fighter & he is out to turn yer lights out , upset yer apple cart & rain on yer parade , make no mistake about that .

    The players he brings in will all be willing to die for the club .

    They are going to be the unheralded underdogs , the talented overlooked players with a grudge , they arent going to leave him ... they never do .

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  60. Hey Brehon, when will you finally learn where to place the full-stops, commas etc?

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  61. Hey Brehon, when will you finally learn where to place the full-stops, commas etc?

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  62.  As soon as I owe the English language something & or stop using it begrudgingly .

    Why do you ask ?

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  63.  Only 30 seasons ago they were Champions of England & Europe ... isnt looking back wonderful .

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  64. I agree with Scott Graham... While, leaving banter and wind-ups aside, we can all agree that history wise and with their worldwide fanbase Liverpool are a bigger club than Newcastle, this isnt the point!... Ben Arfa are talking about a huge club comming in for him here such as Man Utd, Barca, Real etc. And neither Arsenal (whose fans made the exact same article) or Liverpool can be considered to be even close to those clubs, and saying any different would surely make you guys the deluded ones.

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  65. Brendon Rodgers only knows the names of glorified championship players so there is no way he would go for Ben Arfa, he's talking about the likes of signing Bentner well he should fit right into LFC with your other wonderful signings that you've made over the last 18 months Downing, Henderson hmmm 0 assists crap & Carroll 3 league goals all season, Enrique only left because he got brainwashed by you offering extra money he must be thinking WTF the grass isn't always greener!!
    the fact is you LFC fans just try and live off your "History" rather than worrying about the future, history won't win you anything in the future, history won't bring you BIG managers obviously.

    In the past you might have had some good times, so did we if we look back far enough but we don't go banging on about it.
    With a bit of luck Brendon Rogers might take you down to the Championship where you will learn to be a little more humble, it's done us the world of good as a club and gave us the opportunity to clear out the shite we had here and could do the same for you.
    perhaps you should listen in future, we warned you about King Kenny and all he won you was the Mickey Mouse cup (your name for it not ours) or is that part of your history you will be willing to scub over in a few years time.

    AND THEY CALLED US DELUDED!!!

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  66. No infact that's laughable 

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  67. And why would that be?nstrange comment..... We have a great team spirit and a team who like to play for the fans and the manager. Can you say the same at Liverpool? Your players haven't even met the manager

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  68. Hang on a minute.... We have a fantastic structure in place now under cashley. He is still a billionaire he has just decide to run the club as a business and if you look at our financials we are the best performing club in Britain! We also finished 5th in the league and have made many players who were unknown worth millions. If you think chucking £35,000,000 at a guy we developed is good business then good luck! A couple of months out of a player you say? Cisse, cabaye, HBA, tiote etc etc etc

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  69. LOL Liverfools you are very low on money and you can't even see it. Bought you for 300Million paid debt 270Million bought crap players 120Million-50million 10Million to pay off kenny and co errrm the bloke only had 800Million to start with. welcome to the world of cheap big manager LOL.

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  70. I think you will find we have finished 4th, 3rd and 5th twice in that time. Get your facts right son

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  71. You'll be laughing on the other side of your face when he comes good this season. If you need an example of a Newcastle player who spent a year injured before he came could ...


    Hatem ben Arfa???

    Deluded Scouser Has-Beens

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  72. As you said we got relegated 2 seasons ago. We still got 50,000 through the gate! Is that following only when successful? I thought not ya deluded freak

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  73. Sorry? I can't hear you from all the way down the league. 

    You can slag us off as much as you like. You want our players and you ain't getting them because you can't offer them anything. Fact.

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  74. So you wouldn't swap Henderson for cabaye? Carroll for cisse? Downing for HBA? Shall I continue? Oh wait a minute we might just sell them to you for 100,000,000

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  75. So what is your American owner in it for the love of liverpool LOL. As your once second place team tumbles down the table lets see how many reds turn Blue :)  

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  76. how old is your spine LOL

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  77. Why does having BR at the helm mean you will finish above NUFC has he got a magic wand. Maybe if you give him some bread and fish he can feed the world too.

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  78. Ellis to invest what? no money = shit manager lol

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  79. Good Morning fellow Redmen,

    A quick question if I may:  If Downing was worth £20m, how much would we have to pay for Ben Arfa?

    What we really need to be doing as a club is unearthing players in the same way as Newcastle have done.  Ben Arfa (£2m); Tiote (£3.5m); Cabaye (£4m); and Cisse (£9m).  Collectively that is less than what we paid for Downing, and only slightly more than we paid for Hendo yet all four would improve us infinitely. 

    The barcodes proved when they sold Carroll that they wont have their pants pulled down on transfer fees. 

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  80. I feel people get personal because we all love our clubs....For me any player can leave a club no matter how they feel there. Money is king 99.9% of the time. The chance to have played for a winning team also turns heads! I said winning as Man city are finding, you can attract players with big wages at first before winning then gets players to lok at you....Newcastle payed big money and in their hayday liverpool were big payers. I love Newcastle and respect other teams and the history they've had. Newcastle are running the club in a way that could become very effective and I'd love to see us win something.....micky mouse cup included. Lets enjoy the season! peace out....

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  81. Pigman,

    While I can't defend everything that has been said by Newcastle fans in response to this article, I can understand their outrage.

    This article epitomizes everything that is wrong with Liverpool fans and their attitude to clubs like Newcastle: Liverpool have had disappointing season where Carroll and some other expensive signings underperformed, Suarez was embroiled in controversy, the club had an unacceptable league performance, and Dalglish was fired (undeservedly) for his handling of all the above.

    Despite all of this and despite Newcastle's success, the gist of this article is not "could we get ben Arfa " but "should we sign him". The implication being that should the mighty Liverpool desire him, then it's a done deal. This is completely at odds with the reality of Liverpool's financial situation as well as the recent history of the club.

    Furthermore, this article doesn't take into account ben Arfa's sheer talent. Go on YouTube and look at his goals against Bolton and Blackburn, he is another Messi. If he leaves Newcastle, it will be to go for one of the biggest current teams in the world (i.e. Barcelona, Bayern, Real Madrid, Man City) and for big, big, bucks (£40+ million). I know you're in agreement with me on this, but that doesn't make it any less galling to see it written on a Liverpool blog.

    Therefore this article 1) Assumes that reputation alone is enough for Liverpool to get ben Arfa. 2) Refuses to properly acknowledge the fact that Newcastle has moved forward while Liverpool has stood still. and 3) underestimates ben Arfa's actual value.

    Finally, are you sure that you will finish ahead of Newcastle next season? Not impossible but not in the bag either...

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  82. Ha ha. Look at the Newcastle fans up in arms because one blogger suggests Liverpool might look at Ben Arfa! It's not like Rodgers has said he's even thinking about him. Touchy touchy!

    I do think you're being a bit cocky about where you are in the pecking order though. One swallow doesn't make a summer. If history isn't important lets see who finishes higher next season and who progresses further in each of the cups eh? Perhaps tally up all the games played, wins, losses etc next season and see how cocky you are then?

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  83. Chia Chiunn Chew9:19 am, June 10, 2012

    why even bother arguing with a Newcastle fan? Haha..

    Nobody wants to be newcastle fan outside UK! Haha..

    Go out and see the world mate.

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  84. Good Morning Lads,



    Tried to make a post on this site earlier and it is subject to checking by moderators - is this normal?



    Anyway, the gist of my post was this......if we paid £20m for Downing, how much would we need to pay to get Ben Arfa?  Newcastle proved with Carroll they wont have their pants pulled down by the bigger clubs.



    Newcastle managed to get hold of Ben Arfa (£2m); Tiote (£3.5m); Cabaye
    (£4m); and Cisse (£9m).  Those four players would all improve us and they were signed for less money in total than what we paid for Downing.  Furthermore, in view of FFP, the players above have all trebled in value since coming to England, whereas we will be lucky to get half of our money back on Carroll, Hendo or Downing. 

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  85. Hypnophilus... Even tho I have already pointed out that Liverpool are bigger history wise and fanbase wise, I would be carefull being to cocky about where our two clubs finish next season... Nufc might very well finish above Liverpool again, since we are already stabalized and doing well while you are not, I think you will agree if you give it a moment to think about it.

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  86. Brendan Rogers is linked with shite like Matt Jarvis this is what happens when you get a manager from a club like Swansea you are linked with players that Swansea are linked with. Liverpool have enough shite from Newcastle in Carroll and Enrique, a bloody awful left back.
    Today linked with Daniel Sturridge who cannot get a game either.
    Lets face it no CL no big name players are interested. The Europa League is just some energy sapping competition played on a Thursday for little money and cocks up your playing schedule forcing games to be played on a Sunday. Bring back the UEFA cup and make it knock out from the start.

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  87.  If you think that one is funny just wait until you read tha cracker they are holding back in the word/censorship filter !

    Newcastle have way way way reached their peak & Sunderland are most definitely on the up .

    Young , aggressive , ambitious , self made , financial wizard as their owner/chairman .

    Outside of Ferguson , they have the best manager working in British Football , Wegner nor Redknap cant touch what O'Neill has done in his managerial career , not even counting his terrific playing experience when he won absolutely everything there is to win apart from the FA Cup , he is simply regarded as a master man manager with a miraculous knack of getting unfancied clubs & players punching above their weight .

    You got Pardew who does a wee ass wiggling dance on the sidelines & a Fat thieving Cockney for a Chairman who up until last season was desperately trying to give you away not even sell you & you all wanted to hang him for renaming St James Park as Sporting Lisbon Refugee Centre .

    Lfc are on the slide & that is that is undoubted but NUFC remain  a glorified Yo Yo outfit no bigger or better than WBA , Charlton Athletic , Stoke or West Ham .

    Even a stopped clock gets it right twice per day so enjoy yer one swallow because yer summer is most definitely gone .

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  88. Liverpool are nothing, Newcastle have a bigger stadium, better fans, better players and are a better club. Liverpool must stop jumping on the success of 20 years ago and realise that you are no longer a great club. hatem was talking about teams like Man city and Madrid not the likes of Liverpool and Stoke.

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  89. Also we're the trolls because we can't even understand what you toads say, Haten is staying at a much bigger club

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  90.  Only LFC spent more last summer than Sunderland .

    You are caught up in the Fog On The Tyne if you canne see they after employing a genius manager & have cleared out was it 9 players from their squad just in time to sit down & watch the Euro Championships & pick & Choose who they think will help them progress .

    Arshavin is a typical example of the type of overlooked quality player O'Neill picks up for relatively little or nothing , gets through to them , resurrects them & gets the absolute best out of them .

    Only a blind man would ignore what is going on at Sunderland this summer .

    Clearly they are building something sustainable , something special .

    Sunderland are looking at the European places including domestic silverware over the next 3 Seasons .

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  91. ben arfa might have realised that LIVERPOOL cud play in champions league in 2013/14 under Brendon rodgers...feeling sry for newcstle bcoz they are not gonna finish above LFC ANYMORE so better to shut up !!!

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  92.  Aye & Liverpool could also play on Mars in 2013/14 under Bremdon rodgered .

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  93. "Most of your players are nowhere near as good as you believe them to be and won't improve the majority of top sides"

    You must be talking about Liverpool there! Are Carroll, Downing, Henderson, Skrtel, and Bellamy attracting any bids? Championship talent at best. Cissé, Ba, Cabaye, Tiote, ben Arfa, and Krul are world class players that would walk into your overrated starting 11.

    Enjoy another season of looking longingly at our players and wondering where it all went wrong for Liverpool. Don't worry though, we can sell Leon Best for £36 million, seeing as he scored more goals in the premiership than Carroll!

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  94. We_all_drink_whiskey11:15 am, June 10, 2012

    Ah, we have Mystic Meg here. You are basing this arrogance on what, exactly?

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  95. what a load of shit , were was the mention that he said liverfools anyway , and as for the comments above about andy carrol haha it was a brill move from us to sell yous a player that was up for sale at start of season for 1 mill and yous offer 35 hahahahaha whos silly there hahah and we have a mint team you have got well crap , and get your facts right  yous only got into europe through the back door your season was simply bismal this year , enrique  take note you want a top 5 team wasnt it hahahahahaha divvy .......well good luck with our outcasts  hey simpsons for sale shame daglish aint there he might of give us another 15 mill he looks shite for over the odds hahahahaha!!!!!!!  AND ALL YOU KIDS ABOVE WITH YOUR COMMENTS HAHAHA  BRENDON PLAY BACK TO THE GOAL RODGERS HEEHEEHEE EPIC FAIL YET AGAIN HEEHEEHE

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  96. This made me laugh. You do realize it was O'Neill who paid for Cissés flight in January, but Cissé snubbed Sunderland and went to Newcastle? Get used to it. Sunderland have spent £100 million of Short's money and stood still.

    Newcastle have made a profit on the transfer market and broken into the top 6 less than two years after promotion from the championship.

    Any talent that comes to the North East will sign for Newcastle.

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  97. Are you seriously gloating about a £200 airfare ?

    You are sooo cheap I'm afraid to turn my back on you in case you hit me over the back of my head with a brick & steal my shoes .

    In any case ...

    Cisse who ?

    That Senegalese  who hasnt even played 10 games for you ?

    Listin up , if you are so desperate that you want to talk about flash in the pans who have put two or 3 decent games together at a Yo Yo club then go comment to someone else because I'm not here to talk about pennys or second rate journey men  players who failed to establish themselves in the German or eastern European leagues .

    NUFC are so trashy even Joey Barton left you .

    Go scrape the bottom of the barrel elsewhere .

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  98.  Being 12 years old with unchaperoned access to a PC is my guess .

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  99. Good post, Nick. I'm a Liverpool fan of 30 odd years but I've always had a soft spot for Newcastle - good loyal fans, brilliant nightlife and one of my best mates is a Geordie. I'm  not going to get into the whole 'my dad's bigger than your dad' nonsense, club loyalties mean there will never be an end to that argument.
    Anyway, back to the Ben Arfa discussion. I was disappointed that we never signed him when he was available and it was good of Newcastle to keep hold of him when he broke his leg during his loan spell. He's a cracking player and it's good to see players of his calibre playing football for football reasons and not being a mercenary and signing for City, Utd or Chelsea. I don't think we can convince him to join us this summer other than offer him a ridiculous salary and, as much as it would be nice to see him strutting his stuff at Anfield, I wouldn't want him to sign purely on the basis of we're paying him more than his current employers. Also, with a new manager who's on his way up the ladder, it might be too much of a gamble as well. I have a feeling, though, that if he has a storming tournament this summer tthen one of the European giants might come sniffing, Real, Barca, PSG, Bayern etc. and that would be a shame as it's good to see more than the usual suspects having strong squads.

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  100.  LoL , look at the selling club pretending to care about past players when every half decent player in their history left them just about as soon as an approach was made for them !

    Waddle , Beardsley , Gazza , Carroll , Clarke ...

    Ok I admit its a small list but it is a small peny pinching regional Yo Yo club we are talking about after all .

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  101.  The Irish already have Bono & Geldof doing that so just let Rodgers get on with bitting off more than he can chew at LFC eh ?

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  102. What a complete load of twaddle!! are you one of O'Neills turds?? cos you've obviously just crawled out his ass, so come on what has O'Neil won then?? ermmm the scottish cup wow a blind man in a wheelchair with no legs could lead a team of either rangers or celtic to win the cup there is no competition up there.

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  103.  Gazza , Waddle & Carroll all won silverware almost as soon as they escaped from Newcastle .

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  104.  Censorship test ...

    why is my reply to this post being held for so long ?

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  105. no no no you just can't read, Brendon Rodgers said he would have you playing in the Championship not the Champions League easy mistake for someone of your caliber to make ;) 

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  106. he should stay at the 'sports direct' stadium til yee hound out pardew a xmas for not being in top 4.
    the word 'fickle' was invented for nufc fans.

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  107. newcastle probably the only club in the world who'd sack a manager and then build a statue for him a few years later.

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  108. This is when you know things are bad, when a Newcastle fan is lording it over us. Finished above us for the first time in ten years and now we get these comments. Remind us again how long it is since Newcastle won a trophy??

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  109. Errrr... We are in europe.

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  110. I doubt Ben Arfa or anyone outside of Liverpool for that matter considers LFC to be a 'big' club anymore. Can't see what he would gain by joining Liverpool at the moment. Maybe in a season or two we'll be big enough to attract this calibre of player, but not yet, not unless we are willing to pay astronomical wages...

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  111. Can't even spell the name of the team he supports right..Brilliant!!

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  112. 2 big clubs, no point slinging mud. Neither come out clean.
    Liverpool is a top top club, but at the moment they are no longer a top team. I dont see how this would offend any LFC fans, they are probably aware of the decline involved in replacing, Mascherano, Alonso and torres with Spearing, Shelvey and Carroll. Gerrard no longer has his legs either.

    In a way I actually lament the decline, the premier league needs to have a healthy liverpool team for the classic showdowns vs Manchester United and Newcastle.

    You have the work cut out for you following Dalglish&Comollis spending spree, wasting 80 million pounds on henderson, carroll, downing and adam.

    You need to sink that cost and get rid of them, they are not top 4 material end of.

    Good luck in the 2012 season, I hope you lose our two showdowns though.

    Axel the Geordie 

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  113. Definitely got the talent and getting to a stage in his development soon where he is finally ready to be given the responsibility of playing in a bigger club, me thinks. I think he is better off staying at Newcastle for another season or two, than push for that big move, to establish himself more and its a club in a good place at the moment, Newcastle. Got a good bit of variety to his wing play that allows himself to come off the wing well too (unless you are devastatingly consistent like Valencia, you need that variety at a big club, which is Downing's downfall).

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  114. Newcastle had the 4th best income in the prem this season and 14th in the WORLD. we had a great season an hopefully we are on the up... deluded thinking King Kenny knew what he was doing.. hes passed his sell by date...but Great coup to get Brendan Rodgers i hope he can breath life into the club an more so hope the fans give him time unlike Roy be great to see a collection of clubs battling hard for top 4 and hopefully the title can be 5-6 horse race instead of 2

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  115. the championship is a trophy its prob on par with the league cup... in fact intertoto is prob on par with it to that grants you a place in europe ... liverpool are so great through thick an thin your manager wins the champions league then gets sack the following season great loyalty there skip great argument 

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  116. your transfer budget and financial standing has be demolished by kenny... your owner had 800m in funds wen he set out to but the club... how much did the club cost ??? 250m-270m yea... what was the debt he paid off 300m? how much did kenny spend dont 4get his pay off 4 getting sacked ? lets jus make it an evan 140m so how much is left say the guts of 80m.... Ash is still a billionaire ... with 80m left and the financial fare play soon to be enforced you dont have much to send you need to sell in order to buy.

    i think Rodgers might get more out of the current crop than kenny for eg Henderson has potential like-wise Carroll but kenny couldnt hone the out, Rodgers will just look at Neil Taylor 4example and he has a eye for a bargain plus Lucas will be back next season to pick up where he left off

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  117. This made me laugh even more! Cissé who?

    Oh that's right, the striker who scored 13 goals in his first half season in the premier league, including the bbc goal of the season, AND who's basking in the praise of Mancini, Ferguson and Mourinho as well as a host of other top European managers. If you can't admit Cissé is a brilliant striker just because he turned down Sunderland then there's no talking to you.

    "Go scrape the bottom of the barrel" he says, (You're obviously not v bright, use the little wheel on your mouse, scroll to the top of the page and read the article. Finished? What did we learn? That's right, NEWCASTLE'S Ben Arfa is a top class player that Liverpool and other clubs want - Bottom of the barrel you say? No, I'm afraid John O'Shea and Sunderland are "bottom of the barrel" 

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  118. Errr, that's what Andrew said you numpty! If the last trophy was in 1969 that is 43 years ago so a 50 year old would have only been 7.... And would almost certainly not actually remember it if he was that age!

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  119.  Really ?

    I thought it was when we sacked Kenny Dalglish for

    1: Taking us away from relegation trouble

    2: Rebuilding the squad

    3: Safely & regularly blooding 7 inexperienced youngsters ... Robinson , Sterling , Flannagan , Kelly , Spearing , Henderson , Shelvey without over exposing them throughout a foundational transitional season , 8 if you include the 23 year old Carroll in his 1'st full season at the club .

    4: Giving them Trophy winning experience

    5: Giving them the experience of dealing with the pressure of competing all the way  in two
    competitions (Which is required if you are going to balance European
    commitments with Premier League commitments ambitiously )

    6: Ending a 6 year trophy drought .

    7: Securing a return to Europe after a years absence ,

    8: Reducing the wage bill

    9: Lowering the squads average age .

    10: Shoring up our previously relegation threatened defense to the point only the top two teams in the League conceded fewer goals than us

    11: Changed our style of play into a more systematic "Total Football" approach in which we no longer relied upon any one individual & in doing so created more goal scoring chances than every other club in the league apart from the top two .


    After that I think Newcastle & every other club in Europe has every right to Lord it over us & rub our collective nose in our own mess & impending doom .

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  120. You must be the Sloop John B of the famous song.... And let's see how the main sail sets here....

    Would Ben Arfur leave a team where he is idolised and plays with his international teammates to join a team that finished lower and with a new manager? If you think the answer to that is no then you are unbelievably naive my friend.

    Like it or not, 'big club' does not refer to where a team finished last season or even in the last ten. There are some teams in this country that are big clubs but played in the Championship last season like West Ham. It is a long history of great achievements and great players that need to be considered. But hey, you did have Malcolm McDonald, is that what makes you big despite winning nothing in the last 43 years?

    Look, Steve Gerrard came closeto leaving Liverpool for Chelsea in the summer after winning the Champions League and he is idolised far more than any player you've got I can assure you of that. If Mr Liverpool almost left despite having a history of being part of the club since he was 8 years old, there is no way you can claim that any of your players would never leave!

    I'm the first to say my once great club has not been great in the Premiership for two decades yet even then they have won a cup treble in 2001, the Champions League in 2005, the FA Cup in 2006 and the Carling Cup this season.... Not bad considering how poorly they have performed in the league!

    Who will stay and who will go? Like everyone else you'll just have to wait and see but if you're expecting loyalty from players who have no long history with your club then you are seriously deluded.

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  121.  The same John O Shea who has won 50 Premier League Titles , 20 Champions League Titles , 10 FA Cups , 5 League Cups & 3 Community Shields at one of the worlds biggest clubs ?

    Like I said I'm not here to talk about the form of Chamakh or any other flash in the pan forward who hit a run of form in his first few games in the Premier League but then fell apart once his beginners luck wore off .How much did you say the  top European manager Ferguson , who used O'Shea for all those years to win all those trophy’s bid for Chamakh or watever yer calling him these days ?What about Mourinhio ?How big a contract did he sign him to ?Idiots read your posts to have their intelligence insulted & come away with someone to look down upon .Keep up the good work .

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  122.  Why was my reply agreeing with the penny pinching Magpie deleted ?

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  123.  Sadly I think the penny pinching Magpie has got this one right .

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  124.  Testing , censorship test to see if I am allowed to reply to Chan

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  125.  Are you seriously trying to say that
    Marseille & Lyon are smaller clubs than Newcastle ?

    Ahahaha !!!

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  126. oh yeah we more worried about sunderland than YOU GUYS and thats a complement yous are just gonna be another boring swansea and we all hate that boring way of keep football he plays when we play them we love warching them pass back to goal at 2 .0 down to us hahahah well another good move your guys in the top have made , you sure they know there stuff pmsl 35 mill for andy another 5 for enrique hahahaha and now you brought in rodgers he aint attacking style is he boring and tells me you guys aint got the flair that other clubs have or the players 

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  127. rodgers to me = damage limitation  you guys are screwed thanks to your hero daglish heehee well least he paid us back for fucking our club  hes done a great job returning the favour the scottish ass heehehe

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  128. As a Danish Newcastle fan I was a bit suprised to read this, as I see more Danish Newcastle supporters than Liverpool, oh and just in case you would call me a liar... Så kommer der lige et bevis her, Martin, Toonfan Næstved Danmark... A few letters in there you wont find on an English keyboard i believe.

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  129. Perhaps the new owner realized how wrong the previous owner had been? Same as the fans.

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  130. What are you on about? 50 premier league titles and 20 champions league titles are you insane?! United won 5 premiership titles 1 champions league title 1 fa cup and 3 league cups during 
    John O'Shea's stay and he spent most of that time on the bench or in the reserves.

    Face it he's a lemon who could never hold down a place in the starting 11, he's also over the hill and Ferguson probably couldn't believe his luck when the Mackems arrived with an offer for him. Only 5under1and would be so stupid as to buy John O'Shea!

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  131. Eh? Not sure how you came to that conclusion but alas, it is of no surprise that it is you of all people that has come out with such a idiotic remark as such is your ways on here. I basically said he is coming to a stage where is ready. The key easy bit being 'FINALLY READY'. At Marseille and Lyon, he wasn't ready yet in terms of his development to be trusted to be a first XI player. He was bit of a problem child, in terms of development, consistency and his hissy fits. Finally getting his act together. Its one thing trying to read between the lines credibly and another thing just making rubbish up or unable to interpret in a competent manner, unsurprisingly you have fallen in the latter. I'll leave it there as I have clarified my point conclusively in a simple manner for you, cheerio.

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  132.  You mean I was actually lying using statistics ?

    Who woulda thought such a concept even existed ?

    Even so , with a medal haul of every single major club trophy available to him multiple times , hes had one hell of a career & the day Cisse or his like wins even half as much is the day he might just be fit to lace O'Shea's boots for him .

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  133. Relax guys.no use arguing on this article.tell me sum thing.what is the sum of money when ur club finished 5th place?is it big enuf to brag than winning a trophy?if thats what u nufc fans think it is,then enjoy urselves to the fullest.we cud try to understand what u guys feel when finished at 5th place.

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  134.  I think the Yank kidnapped Rodgers granny to force him into taking the job .

    Was it twice or 3 times he tried to distance himself from them ?

    He has just shot his young career in the foot by putting cash wages  before his professional legacy .

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  135. Well I was 7 and I remembered winning it in 1969 so....

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  136. And so you're in your 50s, your point is therefore what exactly?

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  137. Simon you seem to love telling us how great and loyal your fans are. How then do you explain the fact that two years ago NUFC fans were staging sit-ins and chanting for Mike Ashley to go yet now you all hail him as some kind of footballing messiah and think he's the best club owner onthe planet? He couldn't get a lay from a prozzie in Newcastle two years ago and now he's lived by all. Weird considering the loyalty of your fans!

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  138. Why are people perpetually arguing about who has the bigger trophy shaped cock? Ben Arfa actually said he's happy in Newcastle, has full confidence in the manager and is the most settled he's ever been at a football club. He said only an "exciting" offer where he had 100% confidence in the possible new manager would even begin to turn his head. So quite obviously he's going to stay, he's not going to get any of that anywhere. Especially not under a new regime at a pretty poorly run club like Liverpool.

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  139. haha are you for real look at demba  no one wanted to take him on a chance , bet youd swap him for carroll , also HBA injured come back a great player , sylvia  aint  had a good run at the team yet but hey you couldnt agree terms with him he didnt fail a medical so you need to check into that one like  hahaha silly sod

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  140. Testing , censorship test to see if Chan is allowing replies to this post from me ...

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  141.  The only thing you have clarified is that He has already been at two big clubs & that you are now performing yet another rendition of the Beatles "Twist & Shout" as you try desperately to back track & recreate a context to suit the idiocy you posted .

    The long & the short of it is he had to take a step down to a lower standard of club at Newcastle to find his feet , no different to how Shelvey took a step down last season & went out on loan to Blackpool .

    He has been at two big clubs & proven himself a failure , his comments about Newcastle prove any big club would be mad to let a corrosive attitude like that anywhere near their squad .

    He like N Zogbia before him has found his level & he is now mouthing off in the press giving it the big one in the hope some club will be fool enough to give him yet another pay day .

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  142. And surprise surprise , yet another of my replys to Chan has disappeared .
     

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  143. Jesus, how many times? Stop clogging threads with these pointless, antagonistic posts. Your baiting of other posters is becoming tiresome. I also delete posts from others slagging you off so it works both ways. Any more of this and I'll just ban you. And please don't play the victim card again - you know exactly what I'm talking about here. You constantly antagonise/belittle other posters. Please stick to football.



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  144.  i think for the first time in about 25 plus years liverpool finished behind newcastle but saying that liverpool were without key players like gerrard for more than half the season and suarez was banned for nine match's i could go on but will let you enjoy your smug remark

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  145. That says it all Birmingham could win a Major Trophy!, so how bad must it be that yours (Newcastle) was Intercities Fairs cup 1969!!!!!!!! That is how poor Newcastle United are, even King Kenny won a major honour in his 1st season back!

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  146.  You are a hypocrite & a liar , all my posts & reply’s are held in a filter for days if not deleted outright & there is nothing anti social contained within them .

    Fact is you have singled me out because I am not in line with your perverse agenda & are now attempting to justify banning me .

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  147. Where did finishing above Liverpool get the magpies this season?
    Liverpool won a trophy and will be lining up in the Europa league with them.

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  148. It has been a long time since a post from Jamie has been taken seriously by anyone... The fact the Geordies have done proves just how deluded they are!

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  149. Let's hope BR can spend money wisely this season. I don't think FSG will sanction big-money transfer this season due to those very expensive but highly catastrophic signings made by KD and Comolli. Lucky they are both gone by now. Be gracious, LFC folks, NUFC was definitely better than us last season, be it results on the pitch and most importantly, financially. How to buy 'low sell high' is an art in modern football world, something wonderfully mastered by Arsene Wenger. Now, Alan Pardew seems to be able to follow Arsene Wenger's footstep. This is the only way to go for football clubs that do not have oil fields under their pitches.

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  150. Brehon you sad unfortunate rocking on your chair with your many grandkids saying i remember i use to watch them and they were good, we use to beat teams like arsenal and the man us and them barcodes gone were the days when i use to listen to them on my wirless while in my tin bath from a hard hard days graft  champions of europe too oh how time goes fast and HISTORY is just a simple page we turn but today is never lost godbless you mate R.I.P liverfool f.c. a tragic tale of a once great club 

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  151. might have to do with bobbys grate deeds to our people in the north east , he breathed football even in his battle with cancer , he manged great teams such as barcelona  won great things  and sadly passed,a local boy too that loved the club as much as the game, like martin said  previouse owner so well hope that has answered your questions a lil but with a name like titi says it all titi by name titi by nature i suppose

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  152. hahaha invest heavily, did'nt you guys do that this year hahahaha how much you spend again come on do tell hahahahahahaha money well spent hahahah and back at you with everton hahahaha you truley are a sad individual oh for the record sunderland even with oneil couldnt win us mate sorry , 

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  153. and  Bitter invented for you scousers hahaha and history we cant forget that as yous certainly wont will yous lol

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  154. That would pass for being witty & in some books even clever if you didnt completely overlook the irony & context of my reply .
     

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  155.  Are you sure you arent Albert Steptoe in disguise ?

    You certainly sound like him ...

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  156.   Are you sure you aren't Albert Steptoe in disguise ?

    You certainly sound like him ...

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  157. it really gets on my nerves when ever were linked to other players one of our top players wonts to leave. also why would hba wont to go to nufc b team!!

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  158. Go on Martin!Those that know football appreciate Newcastle - its like kids walking around with Real Madrid & Barca tops on in Eng (they dont actually support them, just wear their t shirts). I have travelled all over and met loads of geordies/people that support Newcastle - and they know their football, which is good as we arent the 'big dogs ' like Chelsea or Man U. Also posted a £10million profit last season.

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