Luis Suarez was very unhappy about being substituted against QPR last night, and this was obvious from the way he shook his head in frustration as he left the field. At the time, Liverpool were still 2-1 up, and the Uruguayan surely never would've imagined that less than ten minutes after taking his seat on the bench, QPR would be 3-2 up and on the way to an improbable victory.
After the game, a crestfallen Suarez apologised to Liverpool fans for the manner of the defeat, which saw victory snatched away from Liverpool during a thirteen-minute spell of defensive ineptitude. Suarez tweeted:
"Apologize [sic] to the fans for how we finished the game. We return to Liverpool very upset by the score"
It's good to see someone at Liverpool taking a little bit of personal responsibility. Suarez's finishing was poor once again last night, but his effort and creative impact cannot be denied, and overall, he had a very good game.
I still can't understand the logic in removing Suarez with 8 minutes to go? What was the tactical point? It seems to me that Dalglish just wanted to keep Carroll happy (or wanted to use him as an extra defender) so he brought him on, even though there was no tactical necessity.
At 2-1, things are always going to be tense, and if Dalglish wanted to defend the lead then bring on a defensive player, not a lumbering, ineffectual striker (!) Suarez was a constant menace all night, and unlike Carroll, he can actually hold the ball for more than 30 seconds without falling over.
Suarez was keeping QPR's defenders occupied, and taking him off handed Mark Hughes' team a psychological advantage - their defenders no longer had to worry about a constant goal threat, which allowed them to push further up the field without fear of a breakaway.
Additionally, Liverpool couldn't hold the ball in the final third, which gave QPR more time on the ball to push forward. When Arsenal, Man United or Barcelona are winning 2-1, you don't see them taking off Van Persie, Rooney or Messi, do you?!
It was a major mistake by Dalglish, which contributed to Liverpool's downfall on the night (IMO)
Jaimie Kanwar
After the game, a crestfallen Suarez apologised to Liverpool fans for the manner of the defeat, which saw victory snatched away from Liverpool during a thirteen-minute spell of defensive ineptitude. Suarez tweeted:
"Apologize [sic] to the fans for how we finished the game. We return to Liverpool very upset by the score"
It's good to see someone at Liverpool taking a little bit of personal responsibility. Suarez's finishing was poor once again last night, but his effort and creative impact cannot be denied, and overall, he had a very good game.
I still can't understand the logic in removing Suarez with 8 minutes to go? What was the tactical point? It seems to me that Dalglish just wanted to keep Carroll happy (or wanted to use him as an extra defender) so he brought him on, even though there was no tactical necessity.
At 2-1, things are always going to be tense, and if Dalglish wanted to defend the lead then bring on a defensive player, not a lumbering, ineffectual striker (!) Suarez was a constant menace all night, and unlike Carroll, he can actually hold the ball for more than 30 seconds without falling over.
Suarez was keeping QPR's defenders occupied, and taking him off handed Mark Hughes' team a psychological advantage - their defenders no longer had to worry about a constant goal threat, which allowed them to push further up the field without fear of a breakaway.
Additionally, Liverpool couldn't hold the ball in the final third, which gave QPR more time on the ball to push forward. When Arsenal, Man United or Barcelona are winning 2-1, you don't see them taking off Van Persie, Rooney or Messi, do you?!
It was a major mistake by Dalglish, which contributed to Liverpool's downfall on the night (IMO)
Jaimie Kanwar
I'm sure Carroll was happy with 8 minutes! What was the point?!?!
ReplyDeleteno leadership on this team just a bunch of pride less boys for the most part, luis plays with hart and desire and so does jonhson and a few others but adam my god what's this man doing with lpf.
ReplyDeletehappy forever for carroll..oh yeah...
ReplyDeleteWell said Jaimie...very poor tactical decision by KK, and one that he should acknowledge, albeit there's zero chance of that!
ReplyDeleteIs this team going to make a title challenge next season..??This result just indicates it won't.Can't keep a 2 goal advantage for 10 mins..atrocious to say the least.It is now I bow my head down for Arsene Wenger,what a manager he is.With an average team he has leapfrogged to third place after their worst start to the season,had they not lost Fabregas and Nasri,they would surely have been a major title challenger.. 'King Kenny' you can learn a few lessons from always under fire Wenger ..!
ReplyDeleteWell we haven't got the mentality of the red Mancs, nowhere near and we haven't got the firepower that the blue Mancs have, so its safe to say we won't be anywhere near challenging for the title next season.
ReplyDeleteWas in the ground and Luis was hobbling and had nothing left. Right thing to do pulling him off. Defence was were it wrong. Crroll was Carroll as you would expect.
ReplyDeleteFor me, the biggest issue last night was the lack of control and fight from the midfield in the last 15-20 minutes. They did almost nothing to stem the QPR flow and to stop them from getting at our defence quickly as well as our midfield barely did anything useful to retain possession. Silly errors from defence but for me, the midfield could have prevented those kind of situations happening if they retained the ball and showed some fight to make life hard for QPR.
ReplyDeleteSorry but when we have a 2-0 lead against QPR, it is embarrassing to throw it away.Defensively, pushing Gerrard alongside Spearing in a two-man central midfield in the second half was asking for trouble. Spearing is not experienced enough to handle having a wayward tactless central midfield partner like Stevie
So you think that the fact that Suarez was taken off was the reason Liverpool lost the game.. calm down mate and stop clutching at straws. The logic is that Suarez was exhausted and had his hands on his knees several times before being taken off. And we have another game on Saturday. At the time that Suarez was taken off i dont think that anyone thought that QPR would win the game so hindsight sounds great now. Stop pretending that you know what you are talking about!!
ReplyDelete100 million spent,and now fighting with Swansea for the 8th place..#irresponsibleplayers
ReplyDeleteyou obviously don't know chit about football or winning for that matter.
ReplyDeleteQPR match proves we only perform when we are the underdogs,Once they become the hunted,they just melt off.Dalglish has failed to instill a champion's mentality into the team.That is where the real challenge will lie for him next season,if we are to regain the CL spot..!
ReplyDeleteLearn to read - I said taking him off *contributed* to the defeat, as in it was one of many reasons.
ReplyDeleteAnd the idea that Suarez couldn't finish the game is utter nonsense, as is the idea that he was being saved for saturday.
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Silly errors from the defence? The goals had nothing to do with Gerrard or Spearing it was the simple fact our
ReplyDeletedefence capitulated!
Carragher and Henderson forgetting to jump for Derry's goal from a corner. Carragher forgetting he was playing right back not closing down the cross for Cisse's goal and Skrtel and Enrique ducking and falling over for the third with a real poor effort by Reina in his attempt at a save!
If we are going to blame players lets stick to the ones who didn't do their job they are there to defend and they failed 3 times.
Jamie you will just have to admit that you were wrong thousands of times about Rafa. Its not too late. Let's bring him back and avoid this bumbling incompetence.
ReplyDeleteCoates should play up front instead of Carroll, kk needs to bow down, for the good of the club, take some of his signings with him
ReplyDeleteThat is what I keep hearing about Suarez look tired. Carroll has been doing a good job lately of holding the ball up but from the start of a game not really a sub you can bring into a game with 8 minutes left. May be Aurelio would have been a better option if we wanted to be more defensive.
ReplyDeleteThere is no point in changing the manager each season,for now just keep the faith in him at least for the next season..Barcelona was not bulit in a day,it takes time,patience and lots of heart and hard work..!
ReplyDeleteI was not wrong about Benitez. Please make a list of the things I got wrong about Benitez. Thanks.
ReplyDeleteHow can anyone blame Carroll? He didn't asked to be brought on, he was sent on by the manager!
ReplyDeletedo we know if suarez was tired, fatigued, injured???
ReplyDeleteIMO, Suarez being left isolated up front made no bearing on that result and hardly contributed to the end result.
QPR were now in the ascendency, at home with backing of full crowd, throwing loads of crosses, throw in's, corners etc... maybe carroll was brought on to help with these from a defensive point of view.
IMO, Howard Manc loving twat webb changed the emphasis of that game, how he deemed Skrtel to foul zamora in the build up to the free kick which lead to the corner.
Why not look at the defensive defficiency at set pieces as opposed to a pointless attack on Carroll and Dalglish yet again!!!!!!
At last, some common sense and someone who has an attention span greater than a 3 year old!
ReplyDeleteI love reading this blog and comments just for the truely clueless and stupid comments. Makes being an LFc fan so enjoyable.
ReplyDeleteJust a note to disgruntled fans, one way or other we are progressing under KK and will continue to do so, I bet hardly any on this site are regulars at Anfield or have ever played a game of football in their lives!!!!!!!
lOOK AT THE SHITE ARSENE WENGER HAS TOOK THIS SEASON AFTER ALL HE HAS ACHIEVED AT ARSENAL, THEY HAVE A PROPER MODEL HOW TO RUN A CLUB AND HAVE A LONG TERM PROJECT, NOTHING HAPPENS OVERNIGHT!!!!!!! AND LOOK AT THEM NOW!!!!!!!
Yes, silly errors from defence as well as poor retaining of possession as well as protection from midfield. Basically saying midfield didn't do their jobs, just like you are saying defence didn't do their job. Unless comically you think that not retaining possession and protecting defence is not part of the midfield's remit/job. Defence directly contributed to the goals conceded but the midfield indirectly contributed too, to the debacle that was the last 15-20 minutes. I know its blasphemous to criticise Stevie G but tough poop, he was part of the midfield.
ReplyDeleteI' not a fan of Gerrard in a two man central midfield at all. But in last nights case I wouldn't pin the blame on him.
ReplyDeleteJamie Carragher got out jumped for the 1st goal.
2nd goal Carra again gets pulled all over the place exposing Coates and
Henderson doesn't cover himself in glory either allowing the cross to
come in.
Coates and Skrtel should have stepped out straight when the ball was
played to Zamora but didn't, defended the 6 yard area (which is
criminal) and allowed Cisse to cleverly make a yard of space and bamboozle Skrtel. Cisse feigned a run to the near post where Skrtlel knew Cisse had no chance of getting to the height of the ball
(hence Skrtel not jumping) Cisse then peeled off in behind Skrtel for a simple
header. Very clever marksmanship by Cisse.
3rd goal Enrique tucks round but Coates doesn't tuck round to cover Skrtel. Could have driven a bus through that space. Both Enrique and Coates are at fault.
For once not a Gerrard cm blunder in sight. Although our worst away defeats always seem to occur when SG in a 2 man midfield. Bolton, sunderland, Fulham and now QPR.
As the old cliche goes the best form of defence is to attack. Carroll should have been brought on alongside Suarez. At the Moment Carroll upfront on his own gives opposition nothing to think or worry about.
ReplyDeleteBut we don't run our club like Arsenal, so don't know why they are being brought in here. We buy British first of all, for sums like £35m, hence we expect some meaningful short term performances as well as long term. To compare our situation to Arsenal is simply wishful thinking of an apologist of our current plight.
ReplyDeleteYour right. The big matches are self motivating. The smaller matches call for a man at the top who can actually motivate AND instill discipline, tactics and a winning never say die mentality.
ReplyDeleteKenny is not that man.
We are the resistance...............
guys don't blame the people at front, de big problem here es defense.. //enrique. every game they score cause him,, dawning,, a ball hugger ,, henderson.. a joke,, where es maxi rodriguez,, he is a good. partner for luis.. adam,, how he can play in the premier league?? reyna , he is afraid to come out of his goal,, think in what i tell you here ,, and judge.. thanks
ReplyDeleteDon't get me wrong, the defence were DIRECTLY at fault for the goals and the midfield wasn't but just saying the midfield didn't help matters in the last 15-20 with the way they played. You have got to be able to 'see the game out' and ease the pressure on the back four, by retaining possession. That is the midfield's responsibility and they didn't fulfil it.
ReplyDeletePretty funny really on here everything from being British to the FA gets the blame for our problems but when the defence make 3 mistakes you want to turn on the midfield! Bit pointless playing a defence then with what you are saying the midfield should do it all!
ReplyDeletejamie, i'm really surprised, that you, and your esteemed followers can't figure out the reason why Carroll was brought on, you lot don't seem so clever, without a bunch of stats, or figures to quote off your laptops!! it quite obvious, that he was brought on to add a bit of extra height, to help defend from any bombardments that would be coming into the box!! no-one could of forseen what was going to happen!! @ original chan, the point you make, is complete nonsense, your one of the worse offenders on here, for talking out your behind!! we controlled the midfield all night, so why do you concentrate on the last 15 mins?? the bad bits?? what about the good bits, that we played for 70mins?? i don't think i have ever heard you say anything good, about LFC?? is all you ever do, is compare us to man u?? go right on their page, if you love them so much!! and, the last twenty mins, had very little, to do with the midfield!! it was mainly due to indervidual errorr!! which, happens now and then, even to the best players in the world!!
ReplyDeleteI did not say that at all nor did I imply it. Don't know how anyone with a brain would come up with the interpretation you have. I'll say it again and I hope you get it this time, bless. The defence were directly at fault for the goals but the midfield didn't cover themselves in glory in the last 15-20 minutes with the lack of cover and lack of retaining of possession. Where in that or in my previous post does it say I am asking the midfield to do it all, nor do I absolve the defence of the blame for the goals. I blame the defence for the goals but also having a go at the midfield for not taking control in the last 15-20 in relation to the retaining the ball and shielding.
ReplyDeleteYou make it sound like you think the defence is the only one that should be defending but I don't know if you realise this, football is a team game and it is important to defend as a team, which I don't know if you know this either, includes the midfield. 11 players, e-l-e-v-e-n players, in a team, comprende
If you can't comprehend what I am clearly saying and implying, than I give up on you in relation to this.
Morris Jeff - If you read my article properly then you will see that I directly referenced the defensive reason for Carroll's introduction.
ReplyDeleteAnyway, bringing on a forward to defend? Ridiculous. If you want to defend, bring on a friggin' defender, or do what KD should've done and attack from the front, and bring on Carroll to give them something to worry about (not much, admittedly, but still...)
Bringing Carroll on to defend (if indeed that was the reason) is a negative change and a sign of fear.
Football game lasts for 90min+, not 75 minutes, hence my valid look at the last 15 minutes, especially when we had a 2-0 lead going into it.
ReplyDeleteSorry if I am not all rose-tinted and happy about a season where we are struggling to even finish in the top 6, I guess we have different standards.
It would be more efficient just to point to the tens of thousands of words you wrote criticizing every aspect of Rafa's management and criticizing all those who supported him. The tone of your criticisms were nasty e.g. the piece about Rafa being canonized by the Pope.
ReplyDeleteYour touching and equally wrong-headed support of Hodgson - a mediocre coach all his career - arose mainly from your desperation to prove your thesis that you were right to join those who were baying for Rafa's blood.
Your rationalization of your equally bad judgment about Hodgson was that his poor results and awkward statements were not really the poor old dear's fault, they were the fault of the nasty supporters who were hounding him.
Double standards?
has anybody on here ever watched friends??? well, let me tell you about it!! there a boy called Ross, he in love with a girl called rachael!! there this one episode, where the object of his affection, gets with somebody else!! stay with me!! sooo, because he feels rejected, hurt, and bitter!! he makes up this club!! it's called, the " i hate Rachael Club ", and what happens at the i hate rachael club, is he, and his followeres/friends, get together, take out their anger, say bad things about Rachael , because it makes them feel big!! when really, deep down inside, they feel like crying, and just need a cuddle!!
ReplyDeleteWhen our forwards fail to score you blame the forwards, when our midfield fail to create you blame the midfield when your defence fails to defend a corner, a cross and a long punt up the field and then slip you blame the defence! Did they score from a midfield mistake from Gerrard or Spearing? The answer is no! So your argument that the midfield didn't do their job doesn't hold up when neither where at fault for any of the goals.
ReplyDeleteTop level football isn't that simple or that easy. How naive to categorise defending down to the defence. It is part of a midfield's remit/responsibility to cover, defend and retain possession (these three things play a part in how the team defends), as well as creating, etc.
ReplyDeleteBloody hell, for the millionth time I'll say/imply it to you, the midfield wasn't 'directly' responsible for the goals but they were partially responsible for how the game panned out in the last 15-20 minutes, in terms of poor retaining of possession. So no, the midfield didn't do their job, even if they weren't directly responsible for the goals.
I am done with this as I am now simply regurgitating what I said before and now trying to spoon feed you, like I am feeding you Farleys baby food.
Pointless hot air. Provide facts to back up your contention that I wrong about Benitez, or there's no point. This is inaccurate generalisaton. The criticisms I made of Benitez's management and his obsessed followers were fair. If not, show me how it was not fair with examples.
ReplyDeleteYour whole post just shows that you have a staggering misunderstanding of everything I've written about Benitez and Hodgson. In fact, I doubt you've even read the stuff to which you refer; you probably saw me being slagged off on some LFC forum and have adopted those views as your own.
And re the Benitez canonisation thing - it's called 'irony' = perhaps you should look it up.
Bless. Modern day top level football isn't so simple.
ReplyDeleteDon't know what your on or whether you have some issues with reading but for the millionth time, I never said or implied that the midfield were directly responsible for the goals, nor did I absolve the defence of the blame for the goals. But they (midfield) were partially responsible for how the game panned out in the last 15-20 minutes. Part of the midfield's duty is to provide cover, defend and retain possession as well as create, etc. These three things play a part in how well a team defends as a unit. Last night, the midfield failed to retain possession well enough to help see out the game. Hence, they didn't do their job.
I am done with this as I am regurgitating what I said before in different words and feels like I am spoon feeding you, feeding you Farleys baby food. Cheerio.
It is when 2 of their goals came from a route one punt and a corner!
ReplyDeletei not gonna make excuses, we should not have conceded, so manyin such a short space of time!! is all i'm saying, is that for three quaters of the game, we played really well, for the other bit, not so well!! if we'd played three quaters of the game really badly, and the other bit good!! then i'd see your point, in focusing on that, as it's the largest portion of the game!! and you say it only QPR, but, they are fighting a relegation battle!! they were fighting for their lives, it's not always as simple as, were LFC, there QPR, therefore we should win!! you know, as well as me, it's been a while since teams feared us, and, we walked over everyone!! kenny is trying to get us bk to that place, and, i am happy to be along for the ride, cuz i have faith in him!! and before you say, it's blind faith, it aint, as, i go on what i see on the pitch, and for me, we playing some of the best footy in the prem, just not getting the results our performaces have deserved!! and, with a few tweaks, a couple of good signings, i think then we will start getting the resilts, along with the performances!!
ReplyDeletethis coming from the person, who constantly going on about man u, and city?? and we bought some british players, to comply to the rules!! enrique aint british!! neither is Coates, or Doni, or suarez!! so that argument about as transparent as all your other ones!!
ReplyDeleteDO YOU KNOW WHY URUGUAY HAS A GREAT TEAM//??? ONLY BECAUSE THEY PERFORME LIKE THE '''THREE MOSQUETERS'' ... ONE FOR ALL''' AND ALL FOR ONE'' THAT IS THE ONLY SECRET, THE PLAYERS BELONG TO THE TEAM AND THEY MUST PLAY FOR THE TEAM,,FOOTBALL IS A TEAM SPORT 11, ON THE PITCH, BEHINDE ONE REASON ''WIN'' DEFENSE , BACK UP, MID FIELDERS M AND THEM DO THE SAME TO THE FORWARS, LIVERPOOL FORGOT THIS
ReplyDeletecan i ask you?? what did you expect us to do?? where did, at the start of the season, you thought we should be??
ReplyDeleteI bring in other teams when I feel the context is appropriate to bring them into the post (whether it be either of the Mancs, Newcastle, Swansea, like I have done in the past) but I don't agree with the use of Arsenal in this context.
ReplyDeleteNever said we didn't buy foreign players. Merely pointing out we have spent big money on British players, something Wenger rarely does, nor (thank you for reminding me) does he spend £20m+ on any player (I Think) like KK has done with Suarez (which reinforces my point that we don't run our club like Arsenal. Thanks for the help :) ) I was going to say nice try but it wasn't.
don't forget el maestro he is the reason why we play as a team...buen dia.
ReplyDeleteI'd like to answer this if I may:
ReplyDeleteWhat did I expect from this season?
* Finishing 3rd of 4th.
That's it. I had no other expectation other than that, and finishing 4th was a very achievable goal. There's no excuse for not finishing 4th, especially after spending so much money, and having the advantage of woefully inconsistent performances results from Chelsea and Arsenal.
I get so fucking mad watching these bastards performing in the field. How the fuck are they meant to be professional players?! The excitement i get when i play football with my mates is indescribable even after i've done 10 hrs working shift, and im always so determent to win the game i leave my heart in the pitch its so fucking enjoyable! What about these cunts eh? the amount of money they're getting, playing for a dream club and performing with no desire makes me sick to the stomach! They need a life reality check should be sent to africa and let them starve for food for a short period. That's when they will realize how lucky they are!!
ReplyDeleteConsidering our form in the second half of last season (we were the best team in the league during that period), considering the money spent, considering no European competition to distract us, considering Arsenal lost Cesc and Nasri, considering Chelsea were in a transition phase (yes, I realise we aren't exactly a finished product either), I was expecting us to finish 4th/5th. Putting up a proper fight for 4th place, instead of looking like we won't even finish in the top 6. I'm sure there may well be cons to my pros, etc, but I don't think I was being unrealistic with my aim for this season in the league for us.
ReplyDeleteVery frustrating Liverpool team.... even worst than Hodgson's spell.... What is Kenny's point of not improving the team in table and always pride over the players like carrol and adam. Very disappointing. Unhappy faithful Liverpool fan plead for a change....
ReplyDeleteSaddens me to see us so far from the performances and effectiveness of the form we showed during the second half of last season. KK had it spot on in that spell, was doing great but someone had to go and give him some money.
ReplyDeleteI thought I would support the King but he disappoints me or he doesnt want my support.The cares little about building a team i.e A Xavi,Iniesta,Messi,Busquets kind of thing.His use of terms like SQUAD,LUCK are not good news to a die hard liverpool supporter or owner.We know we can only have eleven best players,not squads.Imagine a Barca without a Messi,Iniesta,Xavi or Alves and Guardiola tells you he has Thiagos,Pintos,Cuencas...You would say he needs his mind checked for normalcy.Maxi,Kuyt,Bellamy,Suarez,Gerrard can score a hatricks but surprisingly they are the ones shown little respect at the club while cows like who cannot even threaten like a Bellas or a Kuyt when they have the ball are Gods to Kenny!!!!Kenny's behavior would make many think Liverpool still has to spend but believe me,Benitez would win a league with Reina,Skrtl,Johnson,Enrique,Agger/Carra/Coates,Lucas,Jay,Gerrard,Kuyt,Downing and Suarez lineup.Given Bellas would come in
ReplyDeleteOkay insults! Thought you had more intelligence!
ReplyDeleteMost of us have watched football for years arm chair managers yeah I suppose we are but we all know a good player when we see one and I'm sorry to say Adam and Carroll are not the class of player LFC deserve they would not get into one of the teams the four decades Ive supported them then again nor would a lot of other players currently at LFC but 45 million on this duo come on I could name several english players far more suited to LFC than this pair. KK was wrong if in fact he bought them DC was wrong if he bought them but would we have bought them nope they would not even make my dream team. waste of money 0 inspiration move em on...IMO
ReplyDeleteI don't think Gerrard's best position is CM he should be supporting the forwards, his goal scoring threat out weighs anything else he does on the pitch we need his goals and assists! He should be in that final third where most of our attacks usually break down.
ReplyDeleteI really don't know whether to defend Kenny or criticse him tbh, not playing Carroll with Suarez is seriously pissing me off, yet i find myself defending his choice to bring off Suarez (even though i think the both of them should have started).
ReplyDeleteIts hard to make a concrete case that that particular decision cost us the game IMO as in the same way it is hard to say with certainty that had Suarez took his chances earlier on it wouldn't have mattered....
Very messy situation, which is really frustrating the fanbase and testing fan's loyalties to the limit, exasperating league form, 1 step forwards 2 steps back....all season long....but lets not forget that we were arguable worse under Roy.....and had a horrid last season under Rafa, what to do?
What makes it worse personally for me is that it is clear that the squad is not a united one and is not playing like one either, the fan base is also very much divided too which just makes it once again a big drama of heated p.o.v's all with their own agenda's as to what they want to see happening i.e. Rafa returning, OR Kenny getting the sack and Mourinho coming in, OR someone else perhaps.....its just depressing, very depressing indeed made all the worse because we have suffered so much public scrutiny for all the wrong reasons be it manager owner wars or racist charges and public humiliations....
NOT looking forward to the summer....
But what of these players though? Surely they have to also take some responsibilty??? I don't want to listen to Suarez making an apology, i want to see him playing with the same skill and determination to score that he showed last season.....
I also don't want to listen to ANY players speaking their crap or defending their clique, i've had enough of ALL the BS coming from certain players, tweeting stuff an all and trying to suck up to the fans and keep them onside, pisses me off that as a Club we have no backbone, the badly handled Suarez/Evra affair was the icing the cake.....
Our owners have a real mess of a Club to deal with and IMO that includes the fan base.....
Glad im not in their shoes, i would say that H & G would have rye smiles on their faces at the moment and if they'd made some money out of us i would say that they would be positively relieved to be free of us tbh......
So, how did that 35 million substitution work then?
ReplyDeleteHow many points did we get for playing well for 75 minutes, go on, tell us?
last time i checked hes a football player and gets paid millions just to perform on a football field.
ReplyDeleteWell, when we spent all that money and Arsenal lost their best two players, i expected that Swansea would be breathing down our necks, and i'm happy to say that we are still in front of them and our work in progress is going better than theirs. Until we go to their place, of course! Well done Kenny, just what we were dreaming of when the season began! Worst premier league in years, no european football to distract us, Arsenal have been through the wringer and we are 13 points behind them. Good show! Progress! At this rate, Carroll and co will be retired by the time we make top 4. But we might win another Carling Cup or two in that time, so no worries!
ReplyDeleteYes, well did one of his friends tell him that he needed an intelligence check for being in that club? And then find out that Rachel was, in fact, no good after all and then say he was at a loss for words?
ReplyDeleteam i the only one sick of kk excuses week after week lets face it spent money on woeful players clueless kenny is not the man to take liverpool forward just think who rafa would have bought if he had 100 million to spend sooner john henry opens his eyes and see kenny is not up for the job the better lets be honest no doubt kk is a legend and always will be but as a manager his way out of touch sorry kenny do the right thying and resign lets get quality proven manager
ReplyDeleteso the roles that rafa found for him where he excelled
ReplyDeleteHe wasn't at fault last night.
ReplyDeletestrange really, caroll upfront full stop gives us plenty to think and worry about
ReplyDeleteYes! Can't see why he his played any where else for club or country.
ReplyDelete"some of the best footy in the prem" ?!?!?!?!?!?!?
ReplyDeletecomedy gold
thanks for that.
ReplyDeleteFact is, before those crosses and missed interceptions, they were running through us in a similar way to how Bolton were running through us and we were incapable of keeping the ball so, yes, the midfield did contribute to the poor defensive display and the eventual capitulation. If you keep the ball, the opposition cannot score, if you press in the right areas, all over the pitch, the opposition can't work the ball to the flanks and put in crosses that no one bothers to defend. The defence did not cover themselves in glory but the entire team is responsible for defending.
ReplyDeletearsenal are a one man team, and without RVP, they would be below us!!
ReplyDeleteOh that's it - your tens of thousands of words were irony. I see.
ReplyDeleteGET YOUR HEAD OUT OF KENNYS BACKSIDE AND STOP TALKING SHITE
ReplyDeleteLiverpool should have able to defend a basic corner, challenging for the ball would have been a good start
ReplyDeleteCarragher should have stuck to his role as a right back for equaliser
Enrique should tucked in more when Skrtel challenged Zamora
We have defended well at times this season, with a good goals against tally, but again stats don't predict the future
These types of goals given to poor teams, combined with our lack of goals at other end is the reason we are where we are
No point hitting the woodwork 20 odd times and dominating possession. We need faster players. United have dominated for last while without a real midfield that dictates play. They seem to play with really fast wide receivers
Do you really believe the SHITE you write. I suppose if we didn't have Carroll Adam downing and Henderson; we'd be in a relegation battle. FFS enough of your bull SHITE
ReplyDeleteWhat I have noticed is Kenny rotating players that aren't always necessary while allowing other players to play 90 minutes every single game. Reina hasn't had a break all season, Enrique and Skrtel have had very few. I think last nights mistakes where down to fatigue and maybe a little complacency, although I think Reina has commanded his area very poorly this season overall.
ReplyDeleteCarroll sucks even as a defender. Suarez shd never be subbed... KD has to assume this loss big time.
ReplyDeleteagreed, lfc is mid table material and stuck there unless KD goes. I have never thot I said this but it is clear that the team isnt working
ReplyDeleteeven a tired Suarez can do more than a superfit Carroll who cant defence and loses high balls against manure's shortass rafael. Sigh...
ReplyDeleteSimply because it was our players switching off for the last 20 minutes that cost us all 3 points. We were fantastic for 70 mins and got the goals we deserved. I think we could all agree on that, but the last 20 minutes was a real shocker, like when Man U let City put 6 past them.
ReplyDeleteKD should go from LFC if we are to be champions.
ReplyDeleteChi Bai lu, this is disgusting. I dont know what to say, We are not good enough even though spending millions of money. Me, Ashfah so Chi Bai sad!
ReplyDeleteLike I said if money can buy you success you lots shouldn't be supporting Liverpool. There are always man city and Chelsea, think if you guys watch them play you won't feel so fristrated...
ReplyDeleteStop buggering about with the team and play the strongest players every game, football is a simple game complicated by manager's. They can't be tired now???, If they are the training is not upto scratch. Lets. put Sterling, Suso and Ibe in the squad for the run in, their enthusiasm would boost the players!!!!!!
ReplyDeleteAny more excuses MRS DALGLISH. just give up u r embarrassing ur self . next you'll be saying that if arsenal are being helped by aliens .
ReplyDeleteSorry but Gerrard is a far better central midfield patner for spearing than Adam and hendo combined they are dire and just like carroll and downing they have not earned the right to wear the shirt based on they all apart from carroll only had 1 good season in their career's. You want people to blame it has to be KK and DC for their scouting or should I say lack of! Not fit for lfc end of!
ReplyDeleteReina is also at fault as he didn't even attempt to save the ball! He just stood there flapping his arms! Was he trying to elevate himself?
ReplyDeleteOur league form is relegation struggling and to top it all off over £100m spent in the process there is only 1 player of ours that would make it into the 6 clubs above us at the moment and that is suarez. I know you dont like the man Jaimie but he is trying to do it all himself and rightly so as none of the others are stepping up including Gerrard himself who will have 1 good game out of 4. We are mid table mediocrity 3 points above newly promoted swansea but its ok as we have won the worthless cup and are still in the fa cup. What are your honest thoughts of this season Jaimie? Imo its a failure even more so considering the money spent
ReplyDeleteSpearing 91% pass accuracy
ReplyDeleteGerrard 86%
Downing 85%
Enrique 85%
4 best players that completed 90 mins
Reina 53% Had the ball 19 times and gave it away 9 times!
Suarez 67%
Carragher 77%
Skrtel 78%
Kuyt 78%
Teams total 81%
Looking at those stats the players giving the ball away were the defence and the forwards with the midfield doing their role.
We are questioning Suarez being subbed but he was the worse out field offender for giving the ball away.
This is true but the players bought in are not showing anything you have mentioned with the exception of bellamy and suarez! It says something when 08/09 we were feared by almost every club and now newly promoted teams know they can beat us whats that say for so called progression we should have kept torres and told the toon to stick their asking price where the sun don't shine had we have kept torres along with luis we would have been feared once again but that is not to be for the fore-seeable future and with performances like all season its only a matter of time before we lose our only world class player, SUAREZ
ReplyDeleteThat is 2 minutes of my life that I will never get back from reading this pointless post! Thank you for that wonderful insight ! I think you should give up on the football and stick to the soaps thats usually what girls do is it not
ReplyDeleteYes next you'll be claiming that aliens are helping newcastle otherwise we'd be above them too. Pathetic excuses. FFS just give up
ReplyDeleteCut to the chase Jamie who do you believe should replace kenny as manager as its obvious from this post and ur previous articles u hold no faith in the man. so who do you think is the man to take lfc forward?
ReplyDeleteHold the Ball for MORE THAN 30 SECONDS!!!!!!!?????
ReplyDeleteNot defending Andy Carroll in the slightest but name me a player who has or can do that? You would be very hard pressed!
Like a broken ...record fated to play the same tune forever some contributors to this site can't help themselves going round and round forever on the same old track.
ReplyDeleteAll the players say they are proud to play for this great club, yet they only show it in flashes. I think Reina has lost heart with the way things are going, and who can blame him. Torres probably seen this coming, and thats the main reason he left. We look like a club with no direction. The owners don't know enough about football. Picking players on stats may be good in baseball, american football and basketball, but in my opinion, its not good in football. Out of the players we have brought in this season, who is worth more than we payed for them now? We would probably get our money back, and may be a bit more for Enrique but that is about it. Henderson has been set back in his development. He has been exposed as a player who can not perform on the right of midfield. and though he has looked ok in the centre in the 2 or 3 games he played there, every one will look at the many poor games he has had on the right, we would be luck to get £10mill for him now. Adams we would be lucky to get £5mill for him. Carroll, if we had played to his strengths like Newcastle did, would probably be worth between £15-20mill, but the way we have used him, we would be luck to get between £5-8mill. Kenny was brought in to unite the club on and off the pitch, that has not happened. certain players have been alienated buy the persistence to play out of form players, and them not getting a chance. the fans are split down the middle over KK management style. The fiasco that started when H & G ownership began, is still going on now. We seem to be clutching at straws hoping this is the one thats going to save us from drowning, but as soon as we grab it,it turns out to be another false hope. Its all right to say we are all united and pulling in the right direction for the club, but hand on heart, are we really doing that.
ReplyDeletei tell you why Newcastle are above us!! it's very simple!! they have been a really good team this season!! going on everything that has happened at our club the last few year, do you think he have a god given right to be above Newcastle?? cuz if you do?? then you soooo wrong!!
ReplyDeleteso you thought, that in our first proper season wi kenny, we would oust Tottenham, a team with a squad of players, and a manager, most others envy?? Arsenal, a team that has consistently been in the top four for donkeys years?? not forgetting, that they have the best finisher in the league!!
ReplyDeleteThere are lots of possible candidates. Here are four options:
ReplyDelete* Martin O'Neill (I've been arguing for his appointment for 9 years now)
* Brendan Rogers (Would probably be hounded out like Hodgson though after a couple of bad results)
* Marcelo Bielsa (A. Madrid)
* Andres Villas Boas (He's made for LFC if you ask me; should've come to us, not Chelsea)
There are plenty of managers out there who could come in and do a great job.
so on that basis, you would expect martin oneil to take sunderland to 4th
ReplyDeleteIrrelevant to the context discussed.
ReplyDeleteIt wasn't a shocker to see the red Mancs letting that many goals in as in that part of that season their midfield was very open and letting opposition run at the defence too easily, despite playing some decent stuff. Rooney dropped into midfield, after they went a man down, and he showed his tactical naivety with the way he was running about tactlessly, leaving holes behind a la Gerrard does sometimes. Only excuse they had was that they were a man down (but even so, they should have defended smarter as a team, which they didn't do as their midfield was all over the place), we don't even have that excuse for the QPR game.
ReplyDeleteAmusing assumption.
ReplyDeleteso er how did you work that one out (based on the basis of how I came to the conclusion that we should be looking to finish 4th/5th, prior to the start of the season)?
i'm just pointing out the fact, that it's a little difficult to finish above a team, who's stiker has knocked in 30 plus goals for the season!!
ReplyDeleteAn Arsenal side that sold one of their key players in Fabregas (not even taking into consideration Nasri), who was as important as RVP, if not more, hence the doom and gloom prior to the season from their fans.
ReplyDeleteAgreed. Never should have taken him off and it was a massive factor in us losing the game.
ReplyDeletewell, all that doom and gloom, from the Arsenal fans, was pretty much for nothing!! as look where they are!! you, and your friend will find out before too long, that all your doom and gloom, will of been for nothing also!!
ReplyDeleteThat is the benefit of hindsight talking, which is not the point of context that is being discussed here. You asked about prior to the season started. Hence, irrelevant.
ReplyDeleteJust to add, the majority of people, prior to the season, would have thought the so-called injury prone RVP would never have started as many games as he has done this season. Even during the early months of the season, people were waiting for him to break down.
Aye, 30 seconds is a long time!
ReplyDeleteIrrelevant to the context discussed here. Sorry, try again.
ReplyDeleteJust a irrelevant side note: Spurs' highest league goalscorer this season only has 11 goals, yet they are in the top 4. Having one great goalscorer isn't the be all and end all. Yes, Suarez and Carroll don't score enough but neither do our midfield (last season Maxi, Meireles and Kuyt all chipped in with league goals). .
On a positive note, KK could do a Rafa, and against all the odds get us 4th. Mathematically it is still possible to finish 4th. Other teams will drop points, and all it needs is that one change and master stroke that Rafa pulled off in Istanbul. How many wrote the team off at half time then? Ok, it is highly unlikely, but not impossible. Football is a funny old game. As Istanbul proved, with a team with some mediocre players can still achieve the unexpected. this post is just to give a break from the doom and gloom. Like at half time in Istanbul, we can only DREAM.....
ReplyDeleteI agree with having AVB at LFC. It was rumoured that Fenway was looking at him while he was at Porto before Hodgson was sacked. AVB fits the owners' vision of having a young, ambitious, innovative and progressive manager to take the club forward just like at Boston Red Sox. AVB's £13m release clause might have been a factor in Fenway not attempting to prise him away. AVB certainly made a huge mistake in going to Chelsea as he would have been afforded the time at LFC to overhaul the club.
ReplyDeleteIndeed it is!
ReplyDeleteI think that the biggest mistake of Kenny is not playing the same team in regular basis, injuries apart, how is gonna be a good link upfront if Suarez one day plays with Carrol, another with Bellamy, next with Kuyt or he is the only striker... Big teams have partneships and they are built with games and knowing each other.
ReplyDeleteTo me LFC is more agressive when Maxi, Craig and Luis play together. Any of them can score, plus Stevie.
When, if you are so sure, tell us when that will be? When will enough mediocrity be enough for you?
ReplyDeleteWho did Man City or Chelsea spend 35 million on? Please remind me? Who did we spend 35 million on? Apart from that, your comment makes total sense.
ReplyDeleteHow could he do that, exactly?
ReplyDeleteYes, agree with all of those, and the fact that Rodgers would get a hard time here until he went somewhere and won something.
ReplyDeleteReina Reina Reina we should try some1 else maybe Doni 3 headed goals in 2 matches still think RAFA would do a better Job than KD
ReplyDeletestill irrelevent. They were below us until our problems were resolved and now, since we got money, and gave half of it to them, they have overtaken us. That makes no sense at all. You are just arguing for the sake of it now. Just admit you cannot explain how Newcastle got above us and it will go a long way to taking your first steps to accept that 3 points above Swansea with 9 games to go is not progress for any multi European Champion team that i can think of.
ReplyDeleteDefend what bombardments, like the two headers we conceded on Wednesday? Controlled the midfield? You do know we lost the game don't you? How did that happen?
ReplyDeleteThree individual errors in the last 13 mins to lose the game. And you don't see a problem with that.
I think it is your girlfriend that needs to be worried. I can imagine that any concerns she has about ANYTHING are going to be falling on totally deaf ears with you!
Class, isn't it?
ReplyDeleteSo things have been rosey at newcastle . they've got a owner who has treat the club so answer so. remember allerdyce and hughton . relegation and promotion . so they were in a really good situation compared to us when last season finished? We finished 7th and they 12th. we spent bags full and they less than half. so to me the manager of ours has ruined us from where we were to where we should be and where we are.
ReplyDeleteThe sooner he goes the better