After four months of (self-inflicted) turmoil for Liverpool FC, the dust is finally settling on the Suarez-Evra fiasco. Or is it? According to Liverpool legend Steve Nicol, the situation will not be resolved until the club takes decisive action against Luis Suarez, and he believes that disciplinary sanctions must be imposed on the Uruguayan.
Speaking on ESPN last night, Nicol described Suarez's refusal to shake Evra's hand as 'disgraceful', and called on Liverpool to punish Suarez further. He argued:
"Regarding Suarez: You can't fine him to hurt him because he has so much money.
"Suarez has to be suspended from all things Liverpool for at least two weeks.
"Liverpool have always and will always support and trust their players until they find out differently, and that's exactly what's happened here.
"Kenny and the club have to suspend this guy. With him not playing, it's going to affect them on the field, but three points is not as important as the reputation of LFC".
What do you think? Is Nicol right, or the should the whole issue be quietly put to bed?
Jaimie Kanwar
Speaking on ESPN last night, Nicol described Suarez's refusal to shake Evra's hand as 'disgraceful', and called on Liverpool to punish Suarez further. He argued:
"Regarding Suarez: You can't fine him to hurt him because he has so much money.
"Suarez has to be suspended from all things Liverpool for at least two weeks.
"Liverpool have always and will always support and trust their players until they find out differently, and that's exactly what's happened here.
"Kenny and the club have to suspend this guy. With him not playing, it's going to affect them on the field, but three points is not as important as the reputation of LFC".
What do you think? Is Nicol right, or the should the whole issue be quietly put to bed?
Jaimie Kanwar
Suarez is not a YES man. Great player, with some self pride. YNWA LUIS.
ReplyDeleteCan't we just draw a line under this? It's getting boring.
ReplyDeleteA recent English translation of a Spanish report posted by someone on the official website's forum confirmed exactly what I thought. Evra was indeed trying to be funny. Amazing how the English press only ever presents one side of the story overwhelmingly and everyone turns on Luis as a consequence, and the disgusting behaviour of Evra is allowed to escape public scrutiny. The press has the power to right its wrongs, but I guess once they've chosen their victims they won't change whom they've cast as the villains.
ReplyDeleteHe should be suspended for going back on his word, but then if the clubs have called a truce we might has just let it lay if everyone wants to move on and for the first time in months we are not headline news.
ReplyDeleteCan't it be the other way round. Maybe the spanish report is biased against Evra (just like you) and still doesn't project the real truth. We all like to think that our opinion is the truth and cling on to whatever crap we can get to try and prove it. The deed is done. Move on. Its only getting tedious now.
ReplyDeletetotally agree, anyone with an ounce of brains can see evra drops his hand by his side. what was suarez to do...beg for the hand shake? no chance.
ReplyDeleteHe never considered that at all of course because it doesn't suit his argument.
ReplyDeleteanyone, funny how only LFC supporters can see that. More lying on this site, it is farcical.
ReplyDeleteHave you looked at the linguistic experts report? You behave as if you have not read the FA's report at all. Your comments are misleading and they irresponsible, because you get another load of sheep fired up using inaccurate information. A Spanish report? What, exactly, is that?
ReplyDeleteDefinitely, suspend the guy.
ReplyDeleteThree points in the nest two weeks. Nicol, wake up. It's FA Cup and Carling Cup games.
ReplyDeleteI loved Nicol as a player when I was growing up but to be honest he is starting to piss me off with stupid comments!
ReplyDeleteWhat would it achieve if LFC banned Suarez? It would only prolong the issue further, place the club in the spotlight of the pathetic press frenzy.
His actions were stupid and misconceived but does not warrant further action following his apology.
If Kenny suspend Suarez then it Ferguson would be laughing. Suarez has enough of the punishment and if those legend still want to bashed him. we should prepare another Tevez saga later on.
ReplyDeleteSeriously. This is getting so out of control it's ubelievable. We are talking about a handshake! - We are the laughing stock of the world because we talk about it so much. It's a soap opera, nothing else. NO Suarez should not be suspended or fined, it's ridiculous. An apology has been made, let's all move on. Simple as that.
ReplyDeleteNo, he is just selfish, at the expense of the club who backed him.
ReplyDeleteHear, hear. So true.
ReplyDeleteI don't agree, only because we should let sleeping dogs lie. Suarez is a selfish idiot but what is done is done, let us move on now.
ReplyDeleteYou are correct, myself and many people read this articles and comments for the entertainment value they provide. It is hard to believe that English people falls for the media as they do, I thought it was only in the US.
ReplyDeleteThis has nothing to do with the FA's report, it was about what transpired on Liverpool's last visit to the theatre of screams.
ReplyDeletesad manure people on lfc website
ReplyDeletewell go to a man u site
ReplyDeleterascist halfwit
ReplyDeleteTotally agree.Come on you reds. Lets move on and dont let ourselves being fooled by this SAF and MU plot. Suarez will and must play on as our important players to beat MU and others. For Nicol, just shut up please and stick with our spirit of winning not begging. I fully support KD and Luis Suarez. Evra is just a piece of dirt that will end up losers in years to come. Lets win Carling Cup, Fa Cup and fight for our Champions League place. YNWA!!!!!
ReplyDeletehalfwit
ReplyDeleteSuarez is not a selfish idiot, he is human. He did not insult Evra, he knows that Evra lied and he is angry about it.
ReplyDeleteWere doe's nicol issue these statments from is he working in the media, and he talks pure shite
ReplyDeleteNicol who???? I've been following LFC but can't remember such "legend".
ReplyDeleteMy god, this story is getting so fu*king boring. Why doesn't Steve Nichol keep his mouth shut for a change, he doesn't know the full story. Let's just more on and learn from this rather than dragging it out and forcing Suarez out of Liverpool and English football.
ReplyDeleteRead Kenny's book 'in my Liverpool home!
ReplyDeleteSteve Nicol was considred the thickest player on the team!
Who says time is a great healer?
You must have been following LFC for a very short period then if you don't know who Steve Nicol is.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.lfchistory.net/Players/Player/Profile/389 - Educate yourself.
Why is he talking 'shite'? Because he has a different opinion to you? He's entitled to his opinion, just like everyone else.
ReplyDeleteAdrian - if you have nothing constructive to add to the debates on this site then please don't comment at all. Stop posting one line antagonistic/derogatory comments.
ReplyDeleteIt's time Nicol shut his gob and LFC sites put this to bed we have enough enemies in the media looking to throw petrol on the fire
ReplyDeleteI assume it's a report in Spanish...what do you think it is ???
ReplyDeleteI am not a Liverpool or a manc fan. I am a Newcastle fan. There is no rule you have to be a liverpool fan to comment on this website...is there?
ReplyDeleteQuite agree Chan. Saurez and Dalglish have both apologised for what was a very badly handled issue. Lessons will have been learnt so can we now move on and concentrate on the future ? Nichol was a great Liverpool player but his comments now are totally negative. With a FA cup round on Saturday and a forth-coming Wembley appearance in another week, now is the time to be encouraging the team and not resorting to all this stupid chest beating and self-righteousness. Let's get on with life !
ReplyDeleteWhile he is at it, Kenny should suspend himself also.
ReplyDeleteWhat would you like to stake on the truthfulness of your last statement, Joe? Do you know this for sure?
ReplyDeleteYeah well, I've just read a spanish report that says you are an idiot, is that enough info for you? If you cannot understand that you need more information to comment on something that contradicts a 115 page report, then join the club which appears to be 80% of LFC support.
ReplyDeleteEvra did not extend his hand but only did to grab once Suarez had passed. If the real intent was to shake hands Evra should extended no leave no doubt but this was not the case. He held his hnad close to his body in same manner as Rio did. So who snubbed who. The media and Ferguson are no blind that they cannot see the truth
ReplyDeleteI haven't the slightest what it has to do with because, in your post you comment on :
ReplyDeleteA Spanish report, translated into English.
By Someone.
Evra is trying to be Funny.
English press only represents one side.
Everyone has turned on Luis.
Evra's disgusting behaviour has been ignored.
Press wrongs.
Victims.
Villains.
All the buzzwords that make every rabid, and potentially racist, LFC supporter start foaming at the mouth and, yet, I have no idea what translation you are talking about, who translated it, what Evra is laughing about, how you can say that LFC have not got their point across, when they never appealed, what disgusting behaviour has been ignored, which press wrongs, etc, etc. Care to elaborate?
If i was starting a website and wanted to attract rabid LFC supporters, those would be the tags that i would use.
Maybe it is, but we cannot deny that the English press has in fact been very one sided. Of course I am adopting but one angle, as the British press has done, but I am a mere commentator who does not possess the power of the fifth estate to sway public opinion one way. It is fine by me if both sides of the story were given enough weightage, but how the English press has reacted, and a simple Google search will prove it, is evidently highly biased against Suarez. It is very easy for us to jump onto the bandwagon of popular public sentiment, but the English press on the whole has failed in epic proportions to be informative as opposed to sensationalist. It is especially important for us Liverpool fans to be aware of the possibility that Suarez is indeed maligned and his character fallaciously defamed.
ReplyDeleteI don't give 2 hoots what Man U fans think, you are certainly entitled to stand by your man as we are with ours. I could possibly give them 2 fingers at best. I am supporting a player from the club I love who has been treated very unfairly by a powerful institution which has turned our own against him.
If you've seen any off the pitch video footage of the private lives of these 2 players, Suarez comes across as a humble and nice person, but I doubt that could be said about Evra. Suarez may have also handled the ball at the World Cup and been a passionate supporter of his country, but Evra seemed to be more passionate about team politics and causing unrest within the French squad. Of course, these are mere representations and may not be factual but we do have a very cunning and unforgiving person in Evra and a big kid in Suarez. Perhaps Evra can't figure out he could ever be a bigger man because he's short, but these are all maybes and that's the real issue. The English speaking world has been bombarded with only 1 interpretation and it gets lapped up as if it is a definite.
If there is any definite, it's that we are entitled to be informed of our players side of the story and we ought not to judge him without being presented with both sides and deciding from there.
no, its not like a dictatorship like Rawk dude
ReplyDeletePapissss - The views of rival fans are definitely welcome here. Thanks for posting.
ReplyDeleteThere is a reason Nicol is managing in the states. Concentrate on your own team fella !!
ReplyDeleteListen closely, i hear more ridiculous excuses.
ReplyDelete'video footage of the private lives of these 2 players'...what like footage of them at home with their familes? in their day-to-day lives? PR stunts don't count. Either your just making things up based on nothing or you have access to their private lives that most fans don't have
ReplyDeleteThe comment involving Evra being short, has got to be one of the most childish, petty and bitter comments I have ever come across to justify a pro-Suarez stance.
It is amusing and bemusing the lengths you have gone to justify a pro-Suarez and anti-Evra stance. Got to be one of most oddest posts I have seen in relation to this situation.
Here is the translation I refer to:
ReplyDeletehttp://thekop.liverpoolfc.tv/_International-Media-on-Suarez39-Side/blog/5779743/173471.html
And here is the original article in Spanish:
http://www.marca.com/2012/02/14/futbol/futbol_internacional/resto_de_america/1329222305.html
These are public domains and are there for the world to see. I believe everything you need to know is there.
The act of not extending, worse still, retracting yr hand, tantamounts to asking Suarez to bend over and take Evra's hand. This effectively makes one bow down to ask for a ahandshake. Asshole. One can argue that Evra may or may not do this intentionally but Suarez would hv taken the sub badly. Anyway, Nicol has spoken passionately about the incident. No issue with passion as many writers here had done so. Channel our passion, with Suarez to get the team results and move forward. Liverpool is too big to think about this incident which is wrought with press having a fieild day, enemies of liverpool having a field day. I am not saying KK or Suarez were angels, they were passionate, Suarez probbaly overdid it..he's probbaly provoked there and then. YNWA Suarez, KK and all liverpool fans !
ReplyDeleteagree. Enemies of liverpool having a field day...We shd move onto getting the 2 cups, and aim for UCL. And Suarez is one to bring us there ... professionally, wht his feet
ReplyDeleteKK has brought Liverpool to some level and sanity in some of the games. He just lost it for a while... YNWA.
ReplyDeleteAGree. Evra is an ass to retract his hand to expect Suarez to bend over in a condescending bow, no way !!! No wonder Suarez got mad. I was mad. Liverpool, YNWA !
ReplyDeleteA Marca-based article....great source(!)
ReplyDeleteI wouldn't even use the Marca as fish-n-chip paper
Dude, totally embarrassed yourself. Steve Nicol is a Liverpool Legend. If you remember or have even read about Liverpool under Dalglish's first spell, you would know who Steve Nicol is. Next, you'll be saying you've never heard The Anfield Rap!
ReplyDeleteSuarez is not the type of person (at least at this age) who feels any real remorse about any behavior he thinks was right for his principles, even if it is against all others'. Such penalty would just create a gap between him and the club.
ReplyDeleteI think it is all simple: if he manages to not get into more trouble until the end of the season, he might have learned something. If he does something again, or continues asserting he was right in what he did in this case, it is only going to inflict more shame on the club the longer he stays, so we will just need get rid of him.
Sorry but I want to say that surez has never and may never be an idiot just becuase one silly provoking guy!! who has ganged up with the press and I guese fergie to derail the kops recovery back to the top. If I may ask did fergie for example ban cantona when he did a more serious offence. Today that same french guy is a legend at MANU having set thier come back. We should all as kops stand behind our player, I for one ,am an african and I have never taken any offence if somebody refered to me as a black man!! It is God's way and determination that we are the way we were created and thats is a fact.
ReplyDeleteNO SUSPENSION NOR FINE lets us ignore whatever they say and move on.
I think that Suarez has been the victim of too many things involving Evra. Everyone has jumped on the bandwagon to demand a piece of flesh. Reina was behind Suarez. Did he see Eves pull his hand our did Suarez really just walk by. Investigate before condemning.
ReplyDeleteDo not get sucked into the Ferguson / media view. I am not excusing Suarez but I feel that saint Evra and indeed saint Rio need to examine their conscious and their agenda.
ReplyDeleteIf somebody offered their hand like Evra did, in normal day life, then I doubt you would have shook hands. His hands were held close to the body, fact, just like Rio, held his hands, fact.
ReplyDeleteIf I was Suarez, I would have ensured a handshake but if somebody held their hands close to their body then I would have ignored them.
Be impartial and watch the reply a few times. Then tell me honestly that if you were in the same position would you have managed to shake their hand bearing in mind you are walking down the line.
hopefully you are not being racist here
ReplyDeleteSuarez should have leaned in and grab Evra's hand and look at the camera and show he is the one doing all the work. Evra would have looked the fool!
ReplyDeleteI would please urge all EX LFC LEGENDS/PRO'S/EVEN PLAYERS WHO WERE SHITE BUT REPRESENTED THIS GREAT CLUB. Please stop adding fuel to the fire with this Suarez issue.Others amongst the media are loving all this negative press associated to LFC as we are the peoples club, highly educated and dignified fan base(Obviously a small minority amongst but excellent overall) We have been condemned(and rightly so at times with such a sensitive subject of Racism) throughout all media outlets and so called Expert Journalists through all newspapers. Suarez and Dalglish have accepted they have to allow this matter to be put to bed, reluctantly but for the good of the club this ends now!! The majority of us are unhappy with the outcome of that FA assembled Independent Panel?? but now time to stick together as a club(Personally I was over the moon seeing players on sat protecting Suarez(Kuyt, Skrtel, Reina), standing as one, remember the Panel highlighted they were certain Suarez is no racist!! He just made a massive error of judgement in a particular issue over here that is far more recognised and not tolerated than in Holland or South America!!) KK is being attacked for his loyalty to his players and this has clearly clouded his judgement at times but now is the time for all the players(More so Suarez) to repay this on the field.
ReplyDeleteRespect any person's opinions and feel Nicol spouting his worth just to be heard as many fans thought he had gone into the Managerial wilderness with Ronnie Whelan in Cyprus!!!!!
Praise for Thommo on Sky Sports, never excuses LFC players/Managers / Fans when he feels they are out of order but manages to put his thoughts across with a view that he loves LFC and will try to protect their image and status at all costs!!!!!
Blah, blah, blah, club I love, good for you, what if he killed a man? Would you still talk about the club you love? Yes? No? If you say no, then you are saying that abusing black men is not serious enough for you. Which is your choice, of course, but you could save yourself a whole load of typing.
ReplyDeleteAll the hypocrites on here claiming lack of proof and, yet, coming out with all manner of unsubstantiated assumptions about Evra are funny.
Now, Suarez comes across as a nice man and Evra does not? No wonder he abused him then. Are you one of those guys who says 'she asked for it' when a woman gets raped?
Do not ignore the values of Liverpool and any decent club just because they coincide in this case with the 'Ferguson/media view'.
ReplyDeleteIt's about keeping the principles of this club, and this week I've seen a lot of people who need to stop being obsessed with Ferguson and media and look at things from our point of view.
You need to lisen to John Barnes interview. The behaviours acceptable elsewhere in the world are not accepted in the UK, that is a fact and their appears to be a gap in education. Suarez was not deemed to be a racist.
ReplyDeleteIf I said something, without malice or intending to cause offence, to you and you asked me to repeat it over and over again then am I guilty if this without my knowledge caused you offence because of my cultural background differences. The media and indeed Ferguson, who I admire, need to look at their conscious
You need to lisen to John Barnes interview. The behaviours acceptable elsewhere in the world are not accepted in the UK, that is a fact and their appears to be a gap in education. Suarez was not deemed to be a racist.
ReplyDeleteIf I said something, without malice or intending to cause offence, to you and you asked me to repeat it over and over again then am I guilty if this without my knowledge caused you offence because of my cultural background differences. The media and indeed Ferguson, who I admire, need to look at their conscious
It's pathetic, funny how only Liverpool supporters have been able to notice Evra's sleight of hand, the smirk on his face, how short he is, what a nice guy Suarez is and how despicable Evra is. More smears, more lies. If i really cared who other people supported it would embarrass me to see LFC supporters talk in this way but if I have learned anything it is that you can't choose your fellow supporter. Don't believe any other teams would have done much better but LFC should be embarrassed about this saga, from top to bottom.
ReplyDeletewhy would you care? I'm not selling and t shirts, YET!
ReplyDeleteYeah, he lost it for the important part. Either he lied or he really was not watching when his player went back on his word. Really did not realise what the half time fracas was about. Neglectful and dishonest management that shames the club. If he STILL did not think that this was getting serious enough for him to pay attention and we are to believe he was making himself a tuna sandwich while the handshake was going on, he should be in big trouble. And I believe he is. If he cannot redeem himself with 4th place it should time for a new manager.
ReplyDeleteGet a life , Gab. If somebody tried to damage your reputation I guess you would be very pleased to shake their hand at the first opportunity. Say yeah, you have no street cred!!!
ReplyDeleteSaint Evra, try looking at utube to support this saint
ReplyDeleteTo be honest, Suarez does not even appear to look at Evra so how some of you handshake experts notice the sleight of hand by Evra, and think Suarez did, is incredible. I take my hat off to your observation skills.
ReplyDeleteOf course, if Suarez had hung Evra on the goal posts half of you would still be arguing the toss, so that says all that we need to know really.
Everything i need to know is there if i only like to read one side of a story. It is a list of accusations with no quotes from anyone and no one who is prepared to back up the story. Luis Suarez's sister (if he had one) could have written it.
ReplyDeletePresumably, LFC and Suarez are going to prosecute Evra with assault? What is it with the proper channels that this club likes to avoid?
Tell me, who's story is that? If the story said 'send Gab 100 quid each' would you all agree to it? Are people that gullible now?
I don't have to see it when we are comparing it to someone who bites opponents.
ReplyDeleteYou one of the 'two wrongs make a right' religion? Would you say 'justified', then, if Suarez killed him? Because he is an arsehole he can never be the victim?
Prove that someone is damaging his reputation. Can't? Well, keep you street cred opinion to yourself and rejoin the mob. There's no street cred in the mob so it is probably where you belong.
ReplyDeleteIncredible, soon people will start quoting from scribbled doodles on screwed up bits of paper. Or even the A4 sheets with newspaper letters on them. Anyone who is not suspicious at the lack of any names on the report can't be more than 10 years old. It could be found out if Suarez had anything to do with it, though, they could ask him.
ReplyDeleteThanks. You have lost your street cred.
ReplyDeleteTry walking down a line of players. When a hand is fully extended then you shake. Where there is no hand you do not shake because you do not want to make an incidence!!!!!!!!!
Look at the officials, my good man, then look at Evra, when he drops his hand on his side. In real life matey, can you honestly tell me if you where walking the line and you observed what happened would you honestly have stopped to shake hands. Get real and you need to look at your own conscious???
Someone who has obviously never been to Holland.
ReplyDeleteNever mind, you won't get it.
Liverpool Legend Stevi Nicol, I think the Poll has just answered to your opinion.... And Leave Suarez alone and Let's concentrate on the league...Thank you very much!
ReplyDeleteAnd to Manchester UTD...Please talk about how professional Evra acted that day..
Oh be quiet!! He never had any intention of shaking his hand and only idiots on here and other LFC sites believe that he did.
ReplyDeleteIn that case, when Evra extended his hand RIGHT OUT, why did he not give a notional handshake like he did to Valencia (another negrito) and Welbeck? And then come out and said, I offered my hand and sneaky Patrice pulled his hand back? And what was all that about 'what happens on the pitch stays on the pitch'?
Enjoy the guy and his antics while you can, as he will be gone soon. As i said before, glad I am not a negrito walking around Liverpool City Centre currently, it must be frightening. Everyone thinking you are playing 'the card' all the time!
I reckon the only one on here with any experience of walking a line is you, so i will bow to your greater knowledge. NOT!
So you stand by when your neighbour decides to stone his wife do you? And when the police come you shout 'political correctness gone mad!!' and considering you appear to be suggesting that Suarez did nothing wrong why are you now saying there is a gap in education and what he did would not be a problem anywhere else?
ReplyDeleteIf you said something and you didn't mean to offend, but found out you did, and you insisted on creating this kerfuffle, you deserve all the aggro you get. And you people are being racist against the Dutch if you think that four years over there taught him nothing. Funny how there is no history of Forlan doing the same in any of his time in Europe either. Didn't realise Uruguay was such a big difference with such huge cultural differences.
Gab
ReplyDeleteget a life because the truth, hurts, hey Gab. If in a life scenario would you have manged to handshake if somebody offered the hand like Evra. I do not think so? Please get real!!!
You failed to answer.
Pity but you appear blind and indeed the race card does not apply. You, like the media and ferguson, are on a witch hunt where you try to play the racist card??
ask John Barnes
Gab,
ReplyDelete.look at the reply, my goodman. there was no extension, fact.#
Evra played to the cameras and was prepared to allow an explosive situation to explode.
He could have done better but with individuals like you Evra can do no wrong. Try getting a lip reader to observe your saint over the next few games!!! Then show it to your children unedited? I do not expect to hear from
Is the UK thought, accepted worldwide. I doubt it. Are you smoking some thing!!!
ReplyDeleteYou cannot answer my question because you know I am right!
Get a life,
great Gab, but you have not answer the question???
ReplyDeleteStop being a politician and get real
Gab,
ReplyDeleteYeah, I do get it. Lived there for 3 years. What is your point.
hey gab, answer the questrion, plz
ReplyDeletewrong statement, are we assuming that the UK interpretation is accepted world wide when there is evidence that suggests this is niot the case. Plz visit the John Brnes interview
ReplyDeleteGab
ReplyDeletethree years in Holland, so explain to me now that I have resided in the UK for the last 25 years
Jamie.Nicol has been on your site quite a lot recently,and has'n't said anything worth commenting on! The man is proving to be a moron! We need to hear something worthwhile! We all know Suarez may have done things in the wrong manner,but he was provoked by Evra's comments that apparently refered to his sister. Why should he have to shake the man's hand.The only problem I see is the fact that he stated that he would do so and was wrong, then,not to. He apologised for not doing that,so to punish him further would be incorrect.
ReplyDeletePeole also should have a look at some other video's to see what Evra is capable off!,He is an absolute sh-t stirring,nasty little man.
get your head out of the toilet bowel before you drown
ReplyDeleteGab, get a life based on truth and stop looking into the urinal
ReplyDeletejealous, are we. Evra, look at utube, plz.
ReplyDeleteYou have lost street cred, your comments are unwelcome & indeed irrelevant.
Do not send me the institutrion where you are held, ta.
I think liverpool needs to get on with the season and forget about the saurez incident.Saurez did what any other man would of done.I would of been pissed also if i was suspended.
ReplyDeleteYou in fact replied to your point with your sentence about behaviour. The fact that Suarez said something that is not deemed racist in Uruguay (and it's not a fact that he used it in non-derogatory manner in the middle of a conflict) does not free him from responsibility in the UK, especially after it was made clear to him.
ReplyDeleteNicol should be the one to be suspended as a Liverpool fan(if he is) for two months for talking such shit.
ReplyDeleteI dont think he is reasonable to talk like that because ManU will be laughing at us if we go that low to take such a decision from their influence.
What makes it worse is there are 10 'likes' for that post.
ReplyDeleteTribal mentality gone mad
I think Barnesy has been a bit of a naive apologist and shown some pro-Liverpool waffle when talking about the Suarez thing but in terms of the overall racism issue, he has some decent points
ReplyDeleteGab hey you what about Rio refusing to shake SUarez's hand.Isnt that ridiculous too?
ReplyDeleteSecondly why did Evra bring his hand very low as if he is reluctant to shake SUarez's hand.He Evra tricked SUarez as if he doesnt want to shake Suarez's hand and Suarez fail into his prey.
When did John Barnes become the leader in anything related to racism? Just because he was racially abused and has a OPINION, doesn't mean he is right, wrong, clever, etc, about this subject. You keep on dropping his name and expect that to mean something meaningful and conclusive.
ReplyDeleteWhen you say something that remotely resembles sense, Mr handshake analyser, i will answer it. You haven't managed to so far. You never answered my point, if a man says stoning his wife is culturally accepted in his country, do you shout 'political correctness gone mad!'? Actually, i reckon you do. Then you call the wife a moaner and accuse her of playing the gender card. You're a funny guy!
ReplyDeleteHe's using John Barnes as if he would normally listen to someone like him.
ReplyDeleteSuarez is easily tricked and never seems to know what is going on anywhere, does he? Tell me, Micpando1, do you refer to people by their colour and pinch their skin and grab their head? On second thoughts..........................
ReplyDeleteGab - Give up mate... there is no hope with some people and the issue of "tunnel vision"... I cannot believe we still have handshake analyst's arguing for Suarez's innocence.
ReplyDeleteJaimie was right a year ago when we signed him, he said then he will be a liability and it has turned out to be true.
What are you going on about? Do you usually take medication and forgot to take it today?
ReplyDeleteGab I'm an Aussie and I'll tell u one thing this controversial handshake incident barely was mentioned here. In fact the articles that did cover it were filled with responses 50-50 both ways. As for the race issue what a f##ing joke. Get a life u poms and grow some balls. Oh he called me negro I'm going to cry ... Lol damn pussy
ReplyDeleteReallly. Suarez comes across as a nice and humble person ?? How I wish Otman Bakkal visited this website. OR maybe that was a PR stunt by the Dutch media who loved Bakkal and injected some drug into Suarez so that he would bite him making it look like Suarez is biting him when instead it was the one-sided media wanted to have a go at 'a humble and nice ' Suarez. Also we need a list of alll women Suarez has banged and how he banged thwm. Only then can we get a clear picture you know. Both sides. Anybody knows if he's been fighting with his mum ??
ReplyDeleteAnd also I just learned via you, that racially abusing short guys can be dangerous. I am off to have a chat with Shaquille O Neal now. Hey Pastor, you sure things will all right, right ??
OPEN LETTER TO STANDARD CHARTERD BANK
ReplyDeleteWith all due respect to Standard Chartered Bank,with all due
recognition and total appreciation to Standard Chartered Bank, I will like to
express my dismay on their position concerning the Suarez-Evra handshake saga.
I will wish to inform Standard Chartered and all those
Liverpool legends etc who claim Suarez brought disgrace to our darling club
that they have failed in their assessment.KOPS members will come and go,Standared
Chartered will come and go as Carlsberg did,we fans will come and go,likewise
King Kenny, Suarez,other players,me and other fans but Liverpool will NEVER
seize to exist.
I am disgusted that Standard Chartered and those so-called
legends do not know Evra is from ManU. Had it been Evra is from West Ham or
ManC or even Chelsea or any other club then I think it can be ‘somehow’
reasonable with what Standard Chartered and those legends are saying.
It pains one when a ManU fan or Ferg16 will challenge us
fans that Ferg16 and their club can affect our internal affairs.It really pains
us whenever Ferg16 and ManU fans claim
that Benetez was sacked just because of his famous FACTS about Ferg16.If its
true then where is Liverpools’ dignity?Where does Liverpool fans dignity lie?Why
should we succumb to ManU’s aspirations?
I don’t know why Standard Chartered and those legends could
not also outcry Rio Ferdinands refusal to salute Suarez on Saturday.In my
evaluation had it been Liverpool won ManU on Saturday and Suarez did the Evra
celebration around Evra as he did to Suarez, Standard Chartered and these
legends would have asked for Suarez head or kill him.Am sure if Suarez do Eva
celebration tomorrow, they will still condemn it.Then do Standard Chartered and
these legends really have Liverpool spirits in them?I think nayyy.
If Standard Chartered and those legends ask Liverpool fans
in Asia and around the world if they are bothered with Suarez attitude toward
Evra, there will be absolutely majority who will say NO. However if you pose
same question claiming Evra to be a different club player then most Liverpool
fan will say MAYBE they are bothered because Evra is NOT a ManU player. That is
the point.
In conclusion if Standard Chartered want business with us
they should maintain our dignity and get Liverpool
spirit in them.
We appreciate them but the should know for them to take side
with Ferg16 and Manu is absolutely condemned by us.
Thank You
OPEN LETTER TO STANDARD CHARTERED BANK
ReplyDeleteWith all due respect to Standard Chartered Bank,with all due
recognition and total appreciation to Standard Chartered Bank, I will like to
express my dismay on their position concerning the Suarez-Evra handshake saga.
I will wish to inform Standard Chartered and all those
Liverpool legends etc who claim Suarez brought disgrace to our darling club
that they have failed in their assessment.KOPS members will come and go,Standared
Chartered will come and go as Carlsberg did,we fans will come and go,likewise
King Kenny, Suarez,other players,me and other fans but Liverpool will NEVER
seize to exist.
I am disgusted that Standard Chartered and those so-called
legends do not know Evra is from ManU. Had it been Evra is from West Ham or
ManC or even Chelsea or any other club then I think it can be ‘somehow’
reasonable with what Standard Chartered and those legends are saying.
It pains one when a ManU fan or Ferg16 will challenge us
fans that Ferg16 and their club can influence our internal affairs.It really pains
us whenever Ferg16 and ManU fans claim
that Benetez was sacked just because of his famous FACTS about Ferg16.If its
true then where is Liverpools’ dignity?Where does the dignit of Liverpool fans lie?Why
should we succumb to ManU’s propaganda?
I don’t know why Standard Chartered and those legends could
not also outcry Rio Ferdinands refusal to salute Suarez on Saturday.In my
evaluation had it been Liverpool won ManU on Saturday and Suarez did the Evra
celebration around Evra as he did to Suarez, Standard Chartered and these
legends would have asked for Suarez head or kill him.Am sure if Suarez do Eva
celebration tomorrow, they will still condemn it.Then do Standard Chartered and
these legends really have Liverpool spirits in them?I think nayyy.
If Standard Chartered and those legends ask Liverpool fans
in Asia and around the world if they are bothered with Suarez attitude toward
Evra, there will be absolutely majority who will say NO. However if you pose
same question claiming Evra to be a different club player then most Liverpool
fan will say MAYBE they are bothered because Evra is NOT a ManU player. That is
the point.
In conclusion if Standard Chartered want business with us
they should maintain our dignity and get Liverpool
spirit in them.
We appreciate them but they should know for them to take side
with Ferg16 and Manu is absolutely being condemned by us.
Thank You
thing is "Gab", the 115 page report is soo flawed as to be farcical. It proves nothing, certainly not that Suarez is racist or racially abused Evra. Your "holier than thou" attitude and supposed relish of "facts" (umm, what facts?) put you in the long list of sheeple that will believe anything that the gutter press regurgitate - it is one thing to have an opinion, another to have an intelligent one. Do yourself a favor and read 'Flat Earth News' by Nick Davies for an insider view on your hallowed 3rd estate in the uk...
ReplyDeleteAs a victim of actual racism and on the "balance of probabilities" reviewed in the report, I can quite confidently state that I don't believe LS is a racist, and that his alleged insult (of which there is only one verifiable utterance) is far less insulting than PE's verified insult to LS (and no "Gab", it matters not a jot that LS doesn't have a sister).
ReplyDeleteYou certainly set your standards for "liking" players high (which is of course your right).... Just wondered wether you "like"/accept/revere/respect/etc. ANY players, because most professional footballers (especially the uk native epl based) are a gormless, amoral, unethical, cheating bunch of tools (including our beloved cap'n)...
ReplyDeleteJust like uttering what PE said to LS 1st would get you pounded into a pulp in numerous countries in South America.... A bit of balance when talking cultural norms please.... Oh but I forgot, we are the infallible english, here represented by our infallible fa and straight shooting press.... Please, pull the other one. Leave it now, you got your scapegoat and SHOCK, HORROR, he's a "nasty" foreigner, not a righteous, upstanding, never pulls out of a 50-50, never shows studs, never dives, uk born player.... yeah, right
ReplyDeletedo people follow football, ban him for what being a volatile player?? over the last few decades we have seen this type of player time and time again. what we need to do is make sure he concentrates on the football and watch out for the next slip up as it will come. look at some of the great volatile players of recent years, thay all have the same thing in common, they loose it now and again; when you think it is going good; booom they go off it but then tend to tow the line for a couple of years and play great football so you forgive them. this is surez, he will keep his head down achieve great things then somewhere out of the blue boom, he will do something mad. In my mind the more he concentrates on football it gives him a chance to change what the papers are saying, a couple of wonder goals against brighton should do the trick!!!
ReplyDeleteI like Suarez's sister!!
ReplyDeleteNo, i like players who play well, in a certain style and show respect to their opponent and the rules. I do not like Suarez, just because he plays for us and i do not like Evra, but that does not mean that i want to see our players and supporters abusing the man.
Hoq, thanks for those deep comments. You really showed me there! Next!!!
ReplyDeleteDoesn't prove enough for a 30,000 lynching mob either, though. At the very least, which is how i saw it until Suarez admitted he did refer to Evra, and i saw him pinching Evra and grabbing his head and i saw him say 'what happens on the pitch stays on the pitch', these things convinced me that he is hiding stuff as much as the FA investigation. Oh, and the fact he said he was being friendly when he clearly was not.
ReplyDeleteI will look into your 'Flat Earth News' for sure, but how you find it ok to lump in with all the newly trained handshake analysts that have cropped up recently, I don't know. If you think that is an intelligent opinion...............
Uncle Tom Barnes maybe?
ReplyDeleteWhat so if someone say's 'your sister's ****' it offends you more than racist abuse when you do not have a sister? Really?
ReplyDeleteNo one said he is a racist! They said he behaved in a racially offensive way!! Two different things!
Yes, i said 'your sister's **** to some guy who did not have a sister, and was badly beaten for it!
ReplyDeleteDo you support people stoning their wives and claiming cultural differences? If so, i have an ex girlfriend i can't stand, should i send her your way or to watchclosely, the handshake analyst?
Yes, well, if anyone doesn't care about that type of stuff, it's Aussies, been there!!
ReplyDeleteYes, i think so, it is shocking. The worst thing is that i feel complete and utter schandenfreude towards my own team's manager and his star player and look forward to the shock horror of many as things get worse rather than get better. And when he comes up against someone a bit bigger than Evra and calls him 'negrito'!
ReplyDeleteIn the meantime, will just wait to tell them i told them so!!!
have to laugh at the utd fans getting all moralistic on us!!!!these same fans dont seem to have a problem with their own players...missing drug tests,attacking fans,telling their national team fans to go fcuk themselves,cheating with their inlaws-wives...the list goes on and still havent heard fergie calling for any of those players to b banned and never play for man u again.in conclusion,failing to shake a players hand is WORSE than all the above misdemeanors!!!!brilliant fergie...absolutely brilliant
ReplyDeleteDalglish's behaviour throughout the whole episode has been equally as damaging to LFC as Suarez's has been. At least Suarez has the excuse of ignorance though. Dalglish is supposed to be setting an example for the club and he is failing miserably
ReplyDeleteNot implying LS is a saint nor that he is entirely innocent - as mentioned he should have got a 4 match suspension for the fact that he called him X - regardless of the cultural connotation. Evra should have got a 2 match ban for his disgusting reference and for starting the shite (fa really screwed up by not sanctioning him regarless of him being the complainant). Also, not referring to the handshake - he was a "right twat" (as you might say) to do that. Of course it is a minor sideshow in the whole thing which has been milked for all it is worth - witness PE grabbing his arm in mock dismay and gesticulating to the cameras (made Laurence Olivier look amatuerish...) and the the hypocrite ferdinand refuse to shake. The a big news report with fergie saying that PE was being rested for the Ajax game because of the "traumatic" events of the past weeks.... aside from the 3 others who were "rested" with no explanation....
ReplyDeleteyes, especially when his reference is not abuise within his cultural context -I do suspect he knew PE would take offence to it - just as PE knew very well the nature of his intended slur to LS - so quite frankly, score it 1 - 1. Ask any South American about the slur (or say it and then run...)
ReplyDeleteStraw horse my friend... the 2 are not even in the same book, never mind chapter. You sink your arguement with your response (whether you care to admit it or not). You have implicitly placed more "value" on your cultural interpretation than another. You are on the same ice that the fa are on - but hey! they've got the press, fergie and a whole phalanx of gormless sheeple to bay for blood (fact is, LS IS now a RACIST in joe public's eye - regarless of fa's purile disclaimer). And JT (good, strong, upright, moral english, ex-captain) will shine; rat (rooney) will play in Euro's (the hypocrisy of the fa really knows no bounds!)... "what else floats?", "Ducks!", "and", "wood floats sir..", "yes, wood floats too. Now if ducks and wood float and if he then floats what is HE?"; "A WITCH, a witch, BURN HIM!" Monty Python knew the English mob psych well....
ReplyDeleteSays the person who places more emphasis on a sister who does not exist................
ReplyDeleteThat's not the same book, chapter or story!
you are of course accepting that PE knew LS has no sister...? LS knows PE is black (like me - beautiful color, don't get burnt in the harsh African sun...) and merely refered to him once as he would to any compatriot - the rest is simply heresay and balance of pre-concieved probabilities...
ReplyDeleteand I have lived in both the uk and aus and know where I would rather live (if I ever decided to leave my beautiful SA again...) ps... it's not the uk, ok...
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