26 Sept 2011

GARY GILLESPIE: "Charlie Adam is better than Xabi Alonso". Is he right?

Former Liverpool FC defender Gary Gillespie has argued that new signing Charlie Adam is a better player than Xabi Alonso. It's an intriguing opinion, but does it have any merit?

On the LFC TV Channel a few days ago, Gillespie said:

"I’ve likened him to Xabi Alonso, and in fairness, I think he’s got the capabilities and the abilities to be better than Alonso, and I don’t say that lightly because Alonso is a great player"


I'm a big fan of Adam, and I agree that he has the potential to at least match Alonso's impact for Liverpool. Based on what we've seen so far, what do you think? Is Gillespie right or wrong?



Jaimie Kanwar


105 comments:

  1. never heard so much drivel in my life

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  2. Charlie Adam is not and never will be better than Xabi Alonso. Alonso was much more of an athlete, his technique was better and he could generally do more than Adam on the pitch. Present all the numbers you want and spin the stats anyway you feel like to defend Adam but ask yourself who you would rather have and if you say Adam you have no proof that he is/was/or will be better than Alonso.

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  3. This is the first time i would actually agree with u Kanwar. and by you i mean the poll results. Gary gillepsie should be asked again when he`s sober.

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  4. Where have I defended Adam, or given my view on the issue at all? I've just presented what a former Liverpool player said.

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  5. Charlie Adam is a good player , and will only  get better . But to compare him to Xabi Alonso is like comparing Lucas to Javier Mascherano , Not even in the same class . What a load of B****cks , You couldnt make it up could you...

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  6. He can pass aswell as Alonso, can cover more ground than Alonso, DEFINATELY has better set piece delivery than Alonso and will probably socre more goals than Alonso.

    So I can see the logic behind the suggestion although Alonso just seems to have more class about him, but that may just be because he has the advantage of being Spanish and not Scottish.

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  7. Oh its not aimed at you. Its Gary Gillespie that I don't think should have even brought this up. Its not right that Adam gets constantly compared to Alonso and that kind of pressure is put on him. We don't have Alonso anymore but we have Adam and what I don't understand is why our former players can't say "We will get superior Charlie Adam from last season" but "He is better than Xabi Alonso". It is just not needed. I mean that guy is still finding his feet.

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  8. adam will have to take speed first to be better.....than finally he wont be so slow in mind, body and probably soul

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  9. couldn't agree more with comments made already! Not even in the same class. Gillespie quite clearly is obviously either showing his scottish bias or hasn't a clue what he is talking about. Alonso went for £30M, Spanish regular, Adam's give the ball away far to much and is overrated, if he was that good do u honesty believe Glasgow Rangers would have allowed him to leave. Enough said!!!

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  10. Adam is shit, xabi dictated games for us won the ball kept the ball always wanted to receive and scored goals but as for Adam he can't tackle and can't even dictate his own piss

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  11. Mark, why isn't Lucas in the same class as Mascherano?  He seems to do as an effective job as Javier, and last time I checked he is a fixture in the Brazil team and wasn't warming the bench for his club.  

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  12. lol... grown men in love with the Spaniard.  Listen to yourselves really.  Whats clear is Alonso and Adam play the game differently - thats all that needs to be said.  Why are you crucifying your own squad to shout down one mans opinion?  You fools.

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  13. I remember someone saying, stop Alonso and you stop Liverpool! I'm not sure Adam will ever be like that, although time will tell I suppose!

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  14. Why don't you watch some old footage of Alonso and refresh your memory and then let me know if you still hold the same opinion. I'll come up with suitable rebuttal later, if it is still necessary.

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  15. I think Lucas CAN be compared to Masch. Moreover, Lucas has shown he is prepared to fight to win the respect of the fans. Masch (as brilliant as he could be) walked out on us.  Difficult to forgive the way he engineered his move to Barca.

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  16. 'been watching LFC for 35 years and Alonso is right up there with the greats in terms of his reading of the game and ability to pull the strings from the middle. I actually think he is one of the most under-rated players to have worn the 'Bird. Adam is pedestrian by comparison, but then it's not really fair on him to be compared with Alonso. Adam cost us 7M (about right) and we sold Alonso for 30M (also about right). 'Nuff said.

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  17. I think that both players have their positives...where i agree that Adam will be better than Alonso is in his goal return.

    Alonso for all his vision and ability never really scored enough goals.

    Adam's link up play in the final third is better than Alonso...His corners , Fk and penalties are 1st class.

    Alonso was great for LFC in his time but he is a Madrid player now and Adam is giving his all for LFC .....we should all support Adam and stop this criticism of a player that clearly is committed to LFC and is still getting used to new surroundings.

    Is Adam better than Alonso ? YES 100% !!!!

    Why because his the 1 playing for LFC every weekend not Alonso.

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  18. I read some blackpool fan comments when we were completing move for adam, they said for every 40 yard pass he completes he will give the ball away about 3 times and that he gets booked far too easy for silly things.

    I think he may just edge alonso in goalscoring but only just, alonso had that god given gift of finding space in the middle of the park when there wasnt any, always a sign of a top class player

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  19. If Adam was a better player than Alonso then he would have cost more like £30m - wouldn't he?

    Adam has not demonstrated to me that he has a quick enough brain or quick enough feet to fill the roles played by Alonso and Molby. I hope I am proved wrong but would I put money on him making the transition to this level/class of player...No...I just don't see it.

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  20. Alonso was class but also painfully slow, class and speed don't necessarily go hand in hand. Beckham is slow, Molby was slow etc etc...It's speed of thought that matters as a play-maker!!!. Adam is a very good player but has plenty to prove, he can do anything on the ball but needs to settle down a little more. Im amused at morons who say 'he is shit', as he clearly is not, the fact is they are shit supporters......fact!!!!!

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  21. Disagree with your view. Neither Molby nor Alonso were speedy players however their feet were quick enough to get them out of trouble...and their brains were quick to read the situation.

    The same cannot be said of Adam. He gets caught in possession and needs too long to pick the pass. I can support the team and and not rate a player. The 2 things are not mutually exclusive.

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  22. Adams is above average. That is all and that is he would ever be. Better than Alonso? What drugs is he on?

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  23. its a funny one because hes contributed 2 goals set maybe another couple up and he's still finding his feet at a new club but i think Alonso is a classier player and maybe he never directly set as many goals up or scored as many but i think few teams with the obvious exception of barce have a player who can dictate a game as much as Alonso, true genuine class act. So for me, i would choose alonso everytime but i think Adam is 25 so can only hope he develops whilst at liverpool into the top quality player Alonso is.

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  24. An opportunity for some people to get their big heads on the front page of a tabloid newspaper.

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  25. Xabi is too good to be compared against sub standard Charlie Adam.

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  26. Absolute nonsence. How can this ex-footballer justify those comments? Liverpool are still reeling from the loss of Alonso. Liverpool can't take off with Adam. Enough said on the subject.

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  27. Jaimie, don't waste your time trying to justify Gary's comment. I think he was having a 'senior' moment !

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  28. Bob!!, Adam was short-listed for PFA player of the year last season, in an average team. 13 goals scored plus many assists, Im sure this is not to be sniffed at????, surely!!!!!

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  29. Adam hasn't even played for Europe, why would anyone pay 30m for a (no offense to Blackpool) player that hasn't even touched European fixtures? Please, at least understand where the money goes to and not simply think transfer bidding is just like Football Manager.

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  30. Sanchito.. Javier Mascherano may well be warming the bench for Barcelona. But dont forget this is the Guy who had Rooney in his back pocket for most of the champios league final last season , while playing at centre back . Not in his natural position of Centre Midfield . Dont get me wrong im not knocking Lucas, he has improved a lot over the last couple of seasons . But to compare them is ludicrous .. Dont let the way he left us blind you to what you think of Mascherano .          As a defensive midfielder , i would argue he has been the best in Europe since Makele hung up his boots . He has far better stamina than Lucas , Better tecnique than Lucas , And his passes always seemed to be the right pass at the right time . He was and still is class .
     Like i said im not knocking Lucas , But if he came on the open market , do you really think Barcelona would be in for him . No neither do i ..
     Lucas is a very good player , Mascherano is a world class player ..

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  31. I disagree with a comparison between Masch and Lucas despite them playing similar roles for the club. For me Lucas is definitely more sound in defending (although he probably doesn't win as much, but when he is on a roll like against Bolton, he is pure class), he definitely offers more in attack. He is more willing to run forward for link up play. Masch wasn't that effective.

    As for Adam, even Alonso started out from Real Sociedad which was relatively unknown. We just have to give him time, and not just go into blasting our team. I really think as with all new signings we should really be patient. If you want instant success, go support Chelsea or Man Utd. Or even City. We just have to accept that Kenny Dalglish knows best, and that even goes for Carroll (don't start).

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  32. At the weekend Liverpool did not start, Gerrard, Agger, Kuyt, Bellamy, Aurelio, Coates, Maxi, Johnson, Spearing, etc etc......how different is that quality from last season???, personally im delighted with the players we now have in the squad, what say you?????????

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  33. Mark,

    And Charlie Adam?

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  34. Agreed. We at least have better quality on the benches. Playing Adam is essential because he will eventually be a long-term vital cog in the Liverpool system. If we simply drop players because of a bad game, then aren't we just spending 7m on quick fixes? Kenny Dalglish has a long term plan, and we may not see it as fans, but we must trust in what he wants. He isn't really obligated to explain every action to the fans but if it delivers results IN THE LONG RUN, we just have to be patient. And mind you, 6 games is not a LONG RUN.

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  35. All so didn't go for £30m. See jamie's report on transfer myths

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  36. 100% correct my friend!!!!, 6 games is nothing and not everyone has played in all 6????. If anyone looks at 12 months ago surely we are much improved in footballing terms, does anyone deny that we now play some lovely stuff, granted not over 90mins yet????. We had a huge turn-over of players and still we are getting results already, with the kids we have plenty of options for the coming season too!!!!........As a red these are good days and we should sing the praises of KK and FSG!!!!!!.

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  37. Adam is not better than Alonso but there is no reason why he can't do a similar job over the next few years. He needs to improve his fitness which will happen as being at Liverpool will make him a better athlete. Much as already been said about Adam's defensive capabilities but Alondon wasn't a great defensive midfielder either (in temrs of tackles, intercetoions, blocks, 50/50 duels), he was a deep lying creative midfielder but always had a defensive midfielder next to him (Sissoko, Hamman, Maschernao, Lucas). Adam has also had a bit of stick for his pace, but Alonso was never the quickest of players. Adam is a good footballer and he will get better with time.

    Alonso was a great player for us, the type of clever footballer that I love, but we do look back at him a little too fondly in my opinion. He was good in his first year, helping us win the Champions League, and he was fantastic in his last season with us. In between he was a little hit and miss, and he was also injured quite frequently - 14 injuries in his 5 years at Liverpool according to www.physioroom.com, 2 of these injuries being quite serious and keeping him out for a long time.

    In his last season in paricular he was excellent, and this is why I have a bit of an issue with him. Whatever the reason behind him wanting to leave, whether it was a conflict with Benitez or not, I don't like the fact that in his last season he was putting himself in the shop window. Why didn't he play as well as he did in his last season throughout his Liverpool career?

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  38. I just think that top 4 is a realistic target (as compared to this time last year), given the quality of the play and the positivity of the team. The only negativity is coming from fans and seriously, that doesn't help. We aren't going to win the league that easily (even this season), and we must FACE IT. You want the team to score 4 to 5 goals every match? Go watch La Liga. The league isn't easy and paranoia isn't going to help. If the owners, who spent their money (I'm pretty sure gate receipts and sales from player merchandise; basically the money we as fans pour in, isn't really worth half the team. We have that many fans but really, the money still comes from advertising and all) aren't worried by what's going on on the pitch, why should we just jump on Kenny Dalglish's back?

    We aren't the manager, but we got someone we actually like to be the manager, so let's actually trust him ok? And really, no trolls please, those who say Jose Mourinho, stop watching Liverpool, I'd rather you go and depreciate Chelsea by being their fans.

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  39. Maybe he was just disillusioned and feeling betrayed by Rafa, feeling no place in the club anymore, he just thought maybe it is a good chance to go home. And it wasn't like Atletico Madrid or Malaga, it was Real Madrid, and really at that point, Real Madrid is a great club for his home country, I'm sure that definitely qualifies as a reason to go home.

    He is still Spanish after all, Liverpool may be in his blood but he's human and Spanish, which part of him wouldn't tempt him to go back, especially back to the capital and to a pillar of greatness for his country?

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  40. Agreed. When it comes to actual performance on the field, what did Mascherano provide that Lucas doesn't? Masch never socred goals or created chances, he broke up play and protected the back 4, just like Lucas. Is there some other magical quality that he had that I'm missing?

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  41. For all it's worth, I think Gillespie talks about Adam and Alonso in terms of potential achievable. Adam will always be comfortable in U.K, and will grow to the fans. Alonso took time but nevertheless achieved greatness. And for Adam, who is already living in the shadow of Alonso unintentionally, it's these small little encouragements that can help the players develop mentally and technically.

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  42. I would personally say he maybe just got a kick up the back side and realised he was not quite fulfilling his potential which saw him have his best season + coming back from 2 serious injuries could be the reason there was a dip in his form.

    Also in his defence about injuries, i think benitez due to the squad depth probably brought players back ahead of schedule which caused these problems which i think has been the case with liverpool over the last 12 or so years, fowler, owen, gerrard etc. + one of his injuries was a broken leg via a lampard tackle this is just 1 of those things in football that happens not because he was injury prone or anything like that. but 14 does sounds a lot but without knowing the extent i couldnt speculate i just remember the 2 big lay offs, after his broken ankle im sure we played against juventtus away and we drew, it was his 1st game back and im sure gerrard was suspended and alonso was immense.

    But i agree with a lot you say, i think theres no reason why Adam cant go on to be a very good player for us, people keep mentioning pace but as you point out Alonso had no pace and lets not forget one of the best wide midfielders england has produced David Beckham, he had zero pace, if your good enough you dont need it, lets hope he is good enough.

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  43. For those who consider European games and international fixtures, understand that Alonso is Spanish, and actually fit inside the national team which complemented his style of play. Adam wouldn't seem that good because (no offense) Scotland doesn't play like what he can offer.

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  44. Precisely, Gano.  I don't know where all this anti-Adam sentiment comes from.  This season, for example, he is 5th-best chance creator in the league (OPTA); he's got the most midfield goal assists, and he is the highest ranked player in the EA Sports Index, which statistically assess players based on performance and impact on the team: http://www.premierleague.com/page/PlayerPerformanceIndex

    With these facts, how can Adam be considered 'shit', as someone else described in another comment above?

    Also, I'll be posting an article this week showing some more compelling facts about Adam will (hopefully) make people see him in a fairer light.

    I personally think Adam is a great player.  I don't care if his fitness is not the greatest, it's his specific, measurable creative contribution to the team that interests me, and in his first couple of months at Liverpool, he's scored/created 4 goals, and is the club's top chance-creator.

    That'll do for me.

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  45. I said it below too; Lucas may not defend as well as Masch but at least he offers more in variety. And I appreciate that, there isn't a "better player" between both, it's just different styles.

    Haha, and I wanted to throw in Poulsen as being similar to Masch in terms of the "idea" of play, but never the execution :p

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  46. If you do Jaimie, compare on Premier League grounds only, or in their first season (or 6 games). I think that it will be great!

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  47. I would not compare Alonso to Adam yet but I will say that within the next couple of years Adam will be on par and maybe even better than Alonso. Adam just needs some sharpening around the edges.

    He has a sublime pass (there have been some bad ones), he can score goals, takes great corners and set pieces. He needs to work on his tackles by being less aggressive when going into challenges. We have a player that will get better and better under Kenny Dalglish. Can he fill the boots of Alonso's who we have never managed to replace since going to Madrid? I say absolutely! I for one hope that Gerrard and Adam form a formidable partnership this season!  

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  48. Well we have got to be careful that real-madrid don't come in with a 100million pound offer for him...after all he is better than Alonso.

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  49. I'm a bit confused here. Have we already played 36 games, cos the slating adam is getting the season must nearly be over. And there's me thinking we had only played 6 games

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  50. Mali341

    Why do even bother posting anything? Atleast Kenny Dalglish ain't going to be as idiotic as Rafa who made the biggest mistake by selling Alonso. Adam is going to be a very important player this season and for many more to come. Fact is that Dalglish will not sell important players unless he knows that he will be able to replace them with players who are of the same quality so in that case I doubt Kenny will sell important players even if it had to be for the amount which you are making a joke about.

    It is fans like you (that is if you can actually call yourself one) who need to take a 14lb hammer and give themselves a blow on the forehead in order to wake up.

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  51. Wishful thinking ..... But No Way Jose !!!

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  52. Dear Jaimie,

    It's really hard to say. I'll probably say that he is in the same standard as Xabi after he scored a couple of 50 metres goals. hehehe. It be best if he does that against Man Utd and Man City. Just a plus, not a requirement. hehehehe.

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  53. Let's hope he finds his feet soon coz the boots are called KicKers' !!!

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  54. I would not sell him for 100million if I were the manager. That would mean UEFA cup and 7th place. hehehehehe.

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  55. Now come on mate. A bit of light moment is okay. Anyway dont forget that Adam only cost 6million. What a bargain. This guy has got the potential. Look at the long passes guys and the goals. I like what I am seeing. Perhaps his tackles are not that good yet but give him a break. Adam will come good for Liverpool. I will not be wrong on this.

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  56. No way Jose!!! Its gap is really like heaven n earth .Gon't too far, just watch when his passing failed him, he does more damage than good. Chasing shadows n the obvuios .

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  57. You sure about that????after all it was kenny dalglish who sent aquilani on loan and bought Henderson for 20million ..talk about quality

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  58. I believe not all these comments were aimed at the shit Adam is but the comparison to Alonso . Which I too agree was far fetched. But really hope Adam does better than he has. As passing is his strength, what does he have to offer when that is absent as shown so evidently miserably against Stoke n few other matches though not throughout ?

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  59. Aquilani did not want to be here. You are without a doubt the brightest lightbulb on this site...

    Henderson is only 21 years old so you clearly do not have a clue what you are talking about and it is a fact that you are one of the many doom mongers who cannot see the wood from the trees. I CANNOT BE PROVEN WRONG BY THE FACT that Kenny Dalglish is one of our greatest figure who is still at the club and Kenny will deliver success.

    Liverpool Playing honours (1977–1990)
    Football League First Division
    Winner: 1978/79, 1979/80, 1981/82, 1982/83, 1983/84, 1985/86
    FA Cup
    Winner: 1985/86
    Football League Cup
    Winner: 1980/81, 1981/82, 1982/83, 1983/84
    European Cup
    Winner: 1977/78, 1980/81, 1983/84
    European Super Cup
    Winner: 1977

    Liverpool Managerial honours(1985–1991, 2011– )
    Football League First Division
    Winner: 1985/86, 1987/88, 1989/90
    FA Cup
    Winner: 1985/86, 1988/89

    Mail341, you are the weakest link...goodbey.

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  60. Talking about Rangers, IMHPO Steven Davis is the better more Xabi like player compared to Charlie Adams. Just my 2 cents worth.

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  61. Lets keep it at the managerial careers

    Rafa Benitez
    ValenciaLa Liga (2): 2001–02, 2003–04UEFA Cup (1): 2003–04Liverpool
    UEFA Champions League (1): 2004–05
    FA Cup (1): 2005–06
    FA Community Shield (1): 2006
    UEFA Super Cup (1): 2005Don't get me wrong. I grew up watching Kenny managing Liverpool in the 80s. I was distraught when he left LFC and there has never been a moment since then that I had not wished he returned. My point is past records mean nothing. Rafa and McClaren are prime examples.If I have to vote at this very moment on "Who should be LFC's head honcho" my vote would be clearly for one man....Unai Emery

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  62. Yes if by winning trophies you become an automatic genius who can do nothing wrong then what happened at

    NEWCASTLE

    and

    CELTIC


    when kenny dalglish was there .....


    When he does well...he deserves credit ...like signing Suarez and Enrique

    but when he has over 100million pound to sign quality and he signes Carroll and Henderson for 55million ...then questions should be asked


    i support Liverpool not kenny dalglish....the club is bigger than anybody and that includes dalglish and carragher and the likes

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  63. Have a laugh Grepjava.

    Did you see me using Kenny's stats as manager at other clubs and to compare what Rafa has won in is footballing years to that of Dalglish is being utterly dumb. Dalglish as a manager and a player blows benitez a new ahole. 

    why does saint benitez not have a job at present?

    If we were not banned from Europe then there is no reason why Kenny Dalglish would not have won the European Cup as player/manager too.

    You can have Emery and benitez and all his friends too, thank God Dalglish is back.

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  64. Besides the multimillion dollar investmest on star players and victory at Rovers, you don't have too much to add about KD's achievements at other clubs.

    Benitez doesn't have a job now true. Never been his fan too. KD didn't have a job  since Celtic for ummm a decade? I am sure you gonna say he wanted to pursue other interests and hobbies like publishing badly written websites like what Benitez is doing right now.

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  65. I don't know what's wrong with me but I'm actually AGREEING with Jamie. Wholeheartedly as well. Adam has been class for us this season and has been better than Alonso's 2008/09 season. Give the man a break. He actually plays for us you know!

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  66. Bill Shankly the legend of all legends started it all...

    Bob Paisley took Shankly's vision and followed suite...

    Joe Fagan was a pure genius but was destroyed after Heysel...

    Along came Kenny Dalglish and carried forward the vision of Shankly, Paisley and Fagan and will continue to carry that vision.

    Rafael Benitez unfortunately does not fall under this category.

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  67. Why didn't you include graham souness in your winners list....

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  68. Mate don't you know king kenny dalglish cannot do anything wrong apart from crack up when the pressure comes

    its only a matter of time when he will be another Kevin Keegan ...

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  69. Well I want to see Benitez walk in as manager at Newcastle and trophies LOL...

    There is no point in discussing anything further with the incompetent.

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  70. Because you are an idiot, simple as.

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  71. And before you start posting more of your drivel mali341...
     
    Please get the names right.
     
    It is actually...
     
    Graeme Souness.
     
    You know shit my friend. 

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  72. Not reading post after post of guff about Benitez- been done to death and nowhere more than on this site.

    Adam is a very good player and he and Alonso share some similar traits but for me the one thing that sets Alonso apart is his ability to dictate the tempo of a game. He knows exactly when to put a foot on it and slow things down or when to fizz a first time pass to someones feet. There are few players that have that intelligence.

    To be honest if Alonso is the benchmark then very few will compare favourably but Adam is a very good player nonetheless and cost buttons in today's transfer Market.

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  73. Strangely both are Liverpool's Legendary 7s. A number initially worn by midfielders and thx to Keegan it has been worn by Liverpool's poacher/creative striker/False 9 ever since.

    One intriguing fact though. When Liverpool had players truly worthy of that number(Keegan, Dalglish, Aldridge and Beardsley) Liverpool were champions.

    But one could also argue McManaman was also worthy.But then again he was a winger and not a False 9.

    Ok getting goose bumps pondering this.

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  74. Like Jaimie commented the other day, Benitez and his smell is still well in the air and it is not just with the fans who knew he was not good enough. His preachers still carry his name and roll the red carpet out for him.

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  75. You are right ....i accept dalglish is the best and we will win the league for the foreseeable future

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  76. If Gillespie was talking any more out of his arse, he'd technically be a pair of underpants. This kind of myopic 'don't mention the war' bollocks contributes to the childish farce that this club is in danger of becoming. I completely understand that these pundits can't be seen to have a proper opinion for fear of it reflecting poorly on the club, but it merely serves to frustrate and further isolate the supporters who would prefer not to be patronised.

    They don't cater for the supporters who grew out of Match magazine a long time ago and the LFC TV channel would do well to acknowledge us. I'm sick and tired of moaning about this club but they don't seem to realise that we're not all just sheep. Some of us actually fucking care because it effects us to see such obvious problems being glossed over and ignored.

    I laugh at the channel. It's a joke. Like Orwell's 1984 - we're told what to think. The real shame is that some people who previously deserved respect at the club are ruining their reputations by sitting there and talking shite in order to earn a pay-cheque.

    So in summary, who gives a fuck what Gillespie has to say? At best, he means what he's saying and he's an idiot. At worst, he's being told what to say and WE'RE the idiots.

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  77. Never in a MILLION years. Blinkin 'eck, there is and never will be a comparison between them.

    Adam is 100x better....... sike. He couldn't lace Alonso's boots.

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  78. yes he is much better than alonso ever was, most of the idiots here have never even kicked a football and would'nt know a class footballer if they fell over one

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  79. People are worrying about Adam and his comparison with Alonso. I can see Adam is putting in his shift in the Liverpool shirt. He is trying, and its not his fault that he wasn't born or bred as a top class player. But their are bigger issues than this. Henderson for instance. I will never let this issue go and have given countless comments on him. He is doing nothing in the Liverpool shirt. He offers nothing. Its like he is a sent off player but still on the field. Shelvey is miles ahead of him. Why cant Dalglish see that. I am baffled. Henderson has made no visible improvement, none at all. He still has the same approach every game and that is to disappear. Its shocking that he played for Sunderland, and was given plaudits. Absolute disgrace. 16 million but is playing like a player worth a penny. I'm not joking when I say this but I can play better than him. I have called every pass that he has made sideways backwards before he has done it because I know when I see a player with no tactical awareness and intelligence. Liverpool payed 16 MILLION, and he isn't bothering to learn. So what if he isn't a wide right player, Kuyt wasn't either and hes a slower player than him speed wise. Carroll has been trying, same with Adam. Downing is a solid player, and Enrique is arguably one of our best defenders. Its a real shame when I see Henderson starting infront of Maxi, Kuyt, Bellamy, Shelvey. Heck I even think Pacheco would have played on the right better than him. Henderson= no vision, intelligence, grit, effort, link-up-play, attacking play. It could all be down to confidence, but why do we need a player like that. Liverpool payed 16 million for a player that has depression issues? Thats why I like Shelvey. For his age he is more confident, passes the ball FORWARD. Can link up play, and has arrogance that wont waver. Thats the Liverpool need in Henderson position that he isn├Ęt privileged to have. Quit giving Adam a hard time, Henderson is the real issue here. 

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  80. The only thing Adam might be better at is set pieces, Alonso is worlds apart at everything else.I dont think anyone with any sense would rather have Adam than Alonso.
    But lets hope Adam can do at least half of what Alonso did.
    I will never forgive Rafa for his stupidity with the treatment of Alonso which ultimately led to the demise of Liverpool.

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  81. I have never heard so much shit in my life. Aldrige speaks lots of shit but this takes the fucking piss. To even think that Adam is better than Alonso is bad enough but to actually say it it takes the fuckin piss. Adam is not and will never be as good as Alonso. NEVER, NEVER,NEVER

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  82. I wonder if Gigi Gillespie would be saying the same shite if his name was Xabi McAlonso.

    I presume this is his point. He's talking out of his gack anyway - just ignore him. It's the way the club is going. Far too British with far too much sentiment. It's an issue that we'll be moaning about until the next foreign manager comes in.

    This club is on worryingly shaky ground with regards to finishing 4th and keeping our good foreign players.

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  83. 35 years and still don't have a clue , do you ....... I am the biggest fan of Xabi but let us face it, he had only 1 good season with us ....... Adam already looks like he may score more in 1 season than Alonso did in his entire stint, both are similar in terms of speed/pace ....... I loved Alonso so much because he could shoot from anywhere and that is get a shot on target ... he just could do it like it was his birthright ...... I have seen no player do that - not even Pele ....... Adam and Alonso are different players , I would have both players in my team :)

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  84. No one stops Adam, but himself. By getting himself sent off, he does what even Alonso cannot do.

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  85. Yes, Alonso never didn't get sent off but he was a master of getting other players sent off (!) - I think about 4 or 5 players got red cards as a result of fouling him...

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  86. Absolute bs. Alonso is world class. Adam's nowhere near that. Such comparison is groundless. Other than his free kicks, Adam is not worth a mention in my opinion.

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  87.  nobody can touch xabi alonso game...charlie u can dream off

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  88.  Can't believe there is an actual debate about this! All I can say is this Charlie Adam has played for us for what, 2 months? How much has he been involved in the matches er - ALOT. Xabi Alonso had years for us all to grow to love him. I can guarantee that if Adam was Spanish we'd all be saying he was the new improved Alonso! Give the guy a break and frickkin support your players. Sick of people coming onto these boards and slating the poor guy after a couple of months. The guy can't tackle for toffee but - will learn! Apart from that I think he's got THE POTENTIAL to be a great player in his own right....YNWA

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  89. Alonso was slow. He never covered much ground. Although he was always available for a pass and could retain and release the ball better under pressure.

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  90. Adam was not a popular figure at Rangers. He used to be booed by his own fans before kick off which IMO is quite disgraceful. It was obvious he would leave if the Rangers fans were that shit.

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  91. Adam is not even in the same league as Alonso betcha Real Madrid never make an offer for Adam.
    In fact in a season or two Henderson will be ahead of Adam in the pecking order.

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  92. Adam is not even worthy to untie the lace of Alonso's boot! Comparing both players is an insult

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  93. We still have to see what Adam can bring to Liverpool. I think Alonso was a much better player when he finally left us

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  94. Ehhh..the season is 6 games old. Alonso took time to adjust and so will Adam. It's silly of Gillespie to compare the two at this stage but to see a load of Liverpool fans basically writing Adam off so early into his career is the internet at it's most revealing/worst.

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  95. Adam is a good player but not at alonso level yet. I've been to anfield and watched Adam live for the first time against wolves and felt his lack of mobilty exposed our defence throughout the match. He is slightly overweight which impacts his pace. He struggles when he doesent have space or the ball! Lucas had no support and Adam was often absent in the game along with Henderson.
    Adam will di well in games where our midfield isn't pressedtoo much. Alonso has the edge and more due to his mobilty and tackling capabilty.

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  96. If Charlie Adam improves 100% he still won't be as good as Xabi Alonso.

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  97. Xavi Alonso is one of the greatest midfielder the game have seen, Adams has ability, but have some ways to go; to even be compared to Xavi Alonso, lets be fair adams is not a special player but he is a professional, given the opportunity he can be as much as an important player for LFC as was Alonso......Charlie i believe in you u are committed and that is what LFC fan ask for, not a bit less.......YNWA

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  98. Two different type of players, with good abilties Lucas is more creative Masch is more of a disruptor, makes for good conversation; can go on for days comparing abilities.

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  99. Id rather have Lucas anyday of the week over javier. Watch him for Barca....fouls and flops....disgraceful.

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  100. It took Alonso two years and a kick up the arse to respond, charlie has started his career at liverpool better than what Alonso did.

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  101. I think many people would have said that if Torres n gerrard where not there am not tryin to bring Alonso down but  many thought it was a 2 man team n Xabi excluded...but he was a big player for us we miss him

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  102. its embarrassing that you even compare the 2. Alonso is one of the best ever players to wear the red shirt. Every liverpool fans knows it and we would swop adam for alonso all day long. What was gillespie thinking?

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  103. "I'm a big fan of Adam, and I agree that he has the potential to at least match Alonso's impact for Liverpool..."

    I'm sorry, but how is this 'not defending Adam' or 'not giving your view on the issue'? I mean, if anything, this is the quintessence of 'defending Adam' and 'giving your view on the issue'.

    Indeed, if you were trying to choose a sentence that aptly portrayed a point of view that was the polar opposite of 'defending Adam' and 'giving your view on the issue', then surely "I'm a big fan of Adam, and I agree that he has the potential to at least match Alonso's impact for Liverpool" would be the worst possible selection of consecutive words to use in this situation.

    Charlie Adam isn't fit to mop toilets in a restaurant that a Xabi Alonso extended family member has defecated in. In fact, in summary, Charlie Adam isn't fit.

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