2 Jun 2010

Rafa Benitez's departure: I revealed it would definitely happen a month ago

The news that the club wants to pay off Rafa Benitez to leave the club has been leaked to the press tonight, but I revealed that Benitez was definitely on his way out of Anfield a month ago, on the site's Facebook page.

Even before last season ended, certain influential members of the board had completely lost confidence in Benitez. He retained slim support from one particular board member (I cannot name this person for obvious reasons), but that support has completely vanished over the last few weeks.

Over the last month, the hierarchy at the club has been trying to negotiate a way for Benitez to leave the club that didn't involve having to pay off a huge chunk of his existing contract. There was never any serious possibility that Benitez was going to stay, despite what the media has been reporting. This is the message I have been pushing on the site's facebook page during my absence from the site.

On May 4th, Benitez's agent released a statement saying that 'Benitez's aim was to stay at the club'. Due to information I had received, I knew that this was not going to happen, and I was emphatic about this in my facebook post that day:



re the idea that Benitez was going to say, I stated: "Thankfully, unless there is a serious mistake, that is not going to happen".

The 'serious mistake' I referred to there was any potential derailing of the negotiations going on behind the scenes at the time. I'd been led to believe that everything was progressing as planned, so the only way things would change is if there was a serious mistake in the strategy. Clearly, there wasn't.



I also stated that if Benitez was going to be compelled to leave, it would be in June (above). Then, around the time that Benitez was having meetings with Martin Broughton, I posted the following:



Again, note the emphatic language: WHEN Benitez leaves. The confidence in Benitez ultimately leaving this summer came from the knowledge I had of what was actually going on behind the scenes. And as I've proved time and time again, the information I receive is accurate, and is almost always proven to be accurate.

Since I made these comments on Facebook (principally the first of the three), countless people have challenged me over them, just waiting for the new season to start with Benitez in charge so that they can accuse me of being wrong.

Well, I was not wrong. I was emphatic for a reason: I knew that the club's ultimate endgame was to facilitate the departure of Benitez. And that is now (finally) going to happen.

I very rarely reveal when a point I'm arguing is based on information I've received from someone connected to the club. Sometimes I do, but only when its related to financial information (i.e. club debts etc), and that's mainly because most of the information is already in the public domain.

This explains why I am often so forthright about certain LFC issues - I'm like that because I've often heard it straight from the horse's mouth.

Anyway - Despite what my detractors try to argue, my criticism of Benitez has never been personal; I have only ever been critical of his professional role as manager of LFC.

I will always be the first to admit that Benitez has done some great things for the club in the last 6 years, however, there is no room for sentiment - Liverpool need a change, and Benitez's time us up.

Don't buy into the doom and gloom that will inevitably saturate the media over the next couple of weeks. There will be plenty of top managers lining up for the privilege of managing Liverpool.

Yes, the Ownership situation still needs to be resolved - Like Benitez, the time is right for Tom Hicks and George Gillett to leave the club, and that will also happen in good time.

The future is bright, and we can now approach next season with renewed optimism.

Jaimie Kanwar


157 comments:

  1. get lost you sunshiner

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  2. Lol I love it "sunshiner"

    He really is a spanner isnt he

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  3. And who do you expect to take over, if, as you obviously want, Rafa goes? Think they'll be queueing up?

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  4. The Red Dinfather10:51 pm, June 02, 2010

    Wow is this news really true or is this just speculation before these guys come out and deny everything? If it is then this is a big twist in the tale.
    P.s. I actually read this all over newsnow.com but came here to see if you had it I suppose if you got it too then it must be true, you are quite forthright in your comments so there must be some basis to it.

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  5. theycallmemrBurt10:53 pm, June 02, 2010

    Its very rare I see a person big themselves up they way you have just done! 8-) it's touch and go whether he deserves to go but this is big business now, if you don't hit your targets your out.  Hopefully the door will stay ajar long enough for kuyt and Gerrard to walk through it.

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  6. Phil this Guy is the biggest Spanner known to man 

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  7. have a peanut la you quite clearly predicted that one!

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  8. would you give yourself a blowie if you could Kanwar? fucking blert.

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  9. Honestly- couldn't you have waited at least until it was official? Talk about Schadenfreude.

    It's perfectly obvious that if indeed you have any connections with the club that it is Purslow - does it not occur to you that you are being fed one-sided crap?

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  10. This is the prelude to the FIRE=SALE the yanks will sell the top players keep the money  sell the club for 400million quid  and laugh all the way to the bank.
    Look out Conference here we come.

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  11. Burt - it's not 'bigging myself up' at all.  I get slagged off repeatedly every day by a minority of faceless idiots on the net; the information I provide gets dismissed every time (until it's proven correct).  Since I posted that facebook message, I've had people slagging me off, accusing me of lying etc.  This is my site, so I use it to set the record straight.

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  12. Actually, I don't even believe you have any connections with the club. That facebook comment is so tenuous it's embarassing.

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  13. This guy is probably looks at himself whilst yanking his plank.

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  14. Richard - it is official. 

    Whether the info is one-sided or not makes no difference.  I don't just accept everything I'm told; I question everything.  I can see the agendas at play.  Everyone has one, including Benitez.

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  15. JK you are a complete tool.

    If Benitez goes what fucking rubbish will you start writing exclusives on then

    Exclusive Jamie Kanwar has one ball

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  16. And the point of the matter is whoopie doo. You were right, so now what happens? Mr genious can enlighten us into forseeing the future of our battered beloved club

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  17. How did you know?  =-X I thought I'd kept that secret.

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  18. WOW!!!

    What an arrogant and selfrighteous post!!!

    The most hated men in LFC Hicks, Gillette and Jamie Kanwar!!! What a tosser

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  19. Even more irritating than the real JayKay11:07 pm, June 02, 2010

    Most newspapers have been saying he'd get binned since the end of the season. What exactly are you going to win for your 'exclusive'?

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  20. You need to get a girlfriend mate.

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  21. So why hasn't it been announced on the official website?
    And never mind the things that you ARE told - we acan all question those - what about the things you are NOT told?

    You've been had.

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  22. Jamie - this must be linked to new owners coming in. Also, they must know who they want to replace him. Comments ?

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  23. You are such a narcisist, it is comical. I cant believe that a person can they are all knowing Rafa was not saked a month ago. You speculated. What you should do is try to enjoy football. Go play a game or watch a local team. You should also remove the words Kop and Liverpool from your website so this tripe does not continue to appear in news now.

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  24. As of this minute - he hasnt even gone yet!

    How i would laugh if he doesnt.

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  25. It's like you deliberately epitomise everything I hate about football, life, people and, well just you.

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  26. This angle of the story will not be posted on the official site. The only thing that WILL be posted on the official site is the actual annoucement of Benitez's departure.  The whole thing will be dressed up like Houllier's departure: mutual agreement/resignation etc.  No mention of pay-offs or anything like that.

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  27. The Red Dinfather11:14 pm, June 02, 2010

    Ok so judging by comments nothing confirmed yet. By the way if true are we not just a little bit fucked? Who is out there for us and with what money, let alone the subject of a distinct lack of stability throughout the whole club.
    From ownership issues through to Gerrard apparently wanting out, we might just be up shit creek with a small slowly dissolving chocolate spoon.
    However, if I wasn't so emotionally involved with my club I'd be intrigued

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  28. There is action behind the scenes re new investment/ownership, but as far as I know, Benitez's departure is not a condition of new owners.  The ownership change is still on the horizon.

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  29. theycallmemrBurt11:16 pm, June 02, 2010

    I fear you will not endear yourself to your detractors writing in such a way.  Has anyone seen Max?

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  30. You are definitely a tool. It's no secret.

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  31. I couldn't care less about 'endearing' myself to my detractors.  I don't write stuff to cosy up to people. I wrote this article as a giant F**K Y*u to my detractors, who go to great lengths to try and discredit me. despite the fact I've been proven right on many occasions.

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  32. Precisely my point. It isn't official yet.

    You're not doing yourself any favours with this sort of article  - it's just tenuously triumphal - you realise that don't you?

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  33. If correct, we will know what the actual amount is when they publish financial report next year

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  34. Nah - it's not as bad as that.  Nowhere near.  There will be a massive volcano of negaitivity and doom over the next 2 weeks, but things will settle down, and people will see that things improve very quikcly.

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  35. this is liverpool!! without doubt one of the biggest jobs in world football, do u honestly think (barring one or two obvious exceptions) that there isnt a manager out there if offered the job wouldnt take it? managers have bigger ego's than players, and seeing liverpool as it is now, there isnt a manager outthere who wouldnt think "i can turn that club around" guus hiddink as never gone back on a contract in his life, sadly hes tied to turkey now, mourinho's just gone to real, guardiola wont leave barca unless sacked that leaves an open market for any other manager in the world (fergie and wenger excepted) a possible target, so yes they will be q-ing up!

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  36. So Jamie, Any guesses on who might replace him or its too early?

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  37. So Jaimie, did your sources tell you who might replace him?

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  38. ffs Jamie. Was just heading off to bed to get up early for golf in the morning and now im gonna be stuck here pressing F5 for the night looking for updates!  :-D  On a serious note though I've been checking out your site for a while and you haven't missed a beat with the accuracy of your info so keep up the good work. I think its great news for LFC tonight with Benitez going and will make our club an even more attractive proposition for any potential buyer. Torres, Gerrard etc have got their wish tonight.

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  39. Spot on, Scotty.

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  40. You really don't need to post stuff like this Jamie, it's nothing more than a childish "i told you so". That you have to refer to a single post you made on facebook to say that you absolutely knew this was going to happen ... why bother? I know, people slag you off on this site all the time but you admonish them for it. Are you now going to laud yourself over them, proclaiming that you were right and they were wrong. Seriously mate, it's a bit rich. Let's just discuss the facts and look to the future of the club, not argue with each other about how only some of us knew and how we have connections within the club blah blah blah. 

    As for Rafa's departure ... I'm worried. O'Neill is locked up at Villa, how would we get him, they don't want him to go. Are we going to appoint Kenny as interim manager? What options do we really have? I just hope the club is going to make a really positive move. G&H have treated this like a business from day one and part of selling a business is the bottom line, making it financially more attractive. That might just include a cheap manager on a short term deal. 

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  41. Why do you think that and in those timescales

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  42. Yes you was right kanwar well done!

    Though you have been saying it for the last 6yrs!

    If it is true then its all over for us now...
    He is only leaving because there are no funds which were promised and also that cetain players like torres will not be sold against his will.
    which other manager of note will work under these conditions and succeed?

    This means torres gone gerrard gone and rafa gone!

    Well done jamie...

    You msut be feeling smug!



    with him tor

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  43. 'Tenuously triumphal' - I'm stealing that ;)

    I had every right to write this article.  If people don't like it, tough luck.  They don't have to visit this site, do they?

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  44. <p><span>Jamie</span>
    </p><p><span> </span>
    </p><p><span>No doubt you're really pleased with yourself.  I have the opinion that this is a complete and utter disaster for our club.  Do you seriously believe that any top manager would want to come to LFC when they have ZERO money to play with, NO champions League, AND work alongside 2 complete Idiots WHO KNOW NOTHING ABOUT FOOTBALL???</span>
    </p><p><span> </span>
    </p><p><span>This means we can now expect a player exodus.  AND TO REALLY RUB IT IN...  This is the list of likely replacements, according to the bookies (which might not be official but are rarely that wide of the mark)</span>
    </p><p><span> </span>
    </p><p><span>1. Hodgson - Only sensible option as used to working with ZERO cash</span>
    </p><p><span>2. O'Neil - Would be mad to leave Villa.  Is he better than Rafa - NOPE?</span>
    </p><p><span>2. Blanc - NO, Ex Man Utd, No PL Experience</span>
    </p><p><span>3. Jesus - NO, no PL experience can’t speak English</span>
    </p><p><span>4  Dalglish - I love him, been out of management for over a decade</span>
    </p><p><span> </span>
    </p><p><span>AND BEST OF ALL....</span>
    </p><p><span> </span>
    </p><p><span>5. Alex McLeish !!!  NO NO NO NO NO NO GOD NOOOOO!!!</span>
    </p><p><span> </span>
    </p><p><span>I’m sure you're delighted, but be careful what you wish for because from where I am standing it means that LFC has to start ALL OVER AGAIN. Forgot being serious contenders for years and years now.  This reminds me of when West Ham sacked Harry Redknapp, and replaced him with Glen Roeder. That turned out well didn’t it?</span>
    </p><p><span> </span>
    <span>IM SICK TO THE BACK TEETH WITH THESE GREEDY AMERICAN PI*S ARTISTS THAT ARE DESTROYING OUR CLUB BEFORE OUR VERY EYES.</span></p>

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  45. how can nobody like you kanwar?
    surely atleast one person in mirpur must?

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  46. bollockdreadlock11:30 pm, June 02, 2010

    The Red Dinfather you actually sound very like Jamie Kanwar.  could it be that you are?

    and just to echo someone above, what the hell will you write about now that rafa is gone Kanwar?  Your mother wanking in the bog with that manky old turnip she inserts up her arse before serving to you in a bowl of dog piss that your father has borrowed.

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  47. theycallmemrBurt11:31 pm, June 02, 2010

    Like I said, i'm touch and go about Rafa going.  But I'm getting this feeling your breakdancing on a restaurant table somewhere with an 'I WAS RIGHT' Tshirt on. 
    <span><span> Good Concept but lousy execution.</span></span>

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  48. You've backed it up with nothing more than a side comment on face book. If you were that sure you would have written an entire article about it and been able to quote that - definitely tenuous.

    And it's definitely self-aggrandising Jaimie. 'Every right' - I'm stealing that when for when saying 'I'm entitled to my opinion' just isn't offensive enough.

    btw, who exactly do you think is impressed by this?

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  49. theycallmemrBurt11:33 pm, June 02, 2010

    'tenuously triumphal' - Nice

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  50. Keyser Soze ya ass11:33 pm, June 02, 2010

    JAIMIE KANWAR HAS FOUND HIMSELF IN A HICKS & GILLETT SANDWICH MANY A TIME. HICKS AND GILLETT ARE SLAVE TRADERS AND JAIMIE KANWAR IS THE SLAVE MASTER. YNWA.

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  51. even with the ownership issues as they are any manager would take the job, however, i think it could possibly be a case of an interim manager coming in until the club is sold?? i'd expect any new owners would want their own man?? maybe king kenny and sammy could look after things for a while?

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  52. OR there will be a mass exodus of our better players....Torres, Gerrard, Masch...with no guarantees that money will be made available for new purchases...and we slide down the league as other clubs strengthen their squads.

    Just an alternative scenario to your rosy outlook and one just as likely at the moment.

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  53. kanwar likes a cockney cockmeat sandwich11:37 pm, June 02, 2010

    HOORAH! you poof.

    roy hodgson it is, hope you're happy. stupid little shit.

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  54. What a joke!! Cnt believe they are getting rid of the best manager that we have had since Dalglish! Who are we going to attract now.. Only one man for the job in my eyes Guss Hiddink ANYONE else will just be a sub standard manager the club talk about stability sacking your manager isnt going to bring you stability is it! Now watch the media circus about players coming and going! Actually forget coming because we got no money and watever we do generate will be spent paying off that Interest payment of ours!

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  55. Fraggs - it's not a single post.  I just posted one example.  There are many posts on facebook (in the comments in response to people, for example) where I've stated categorically that Benitez was leaving this summer; that things were going on behind the scenes to secure that. 

    I make no apology for posting this article.  After all the unfair crap I get from people, I'm entitled to set the record straight.  And the post is hadly triumphal or 'I told you so'.  I revealed some further info about the process that's been going on over the last month, and also ended on a positive note, as opposed to the doom and gloom that's already pervading the net.

    I'm not worried about what happens from this point on.  We will get a worthy manager; it may not be a marquee name, but it will  be someone who is right for the job.  I don't think Dalglish as an interim manager is a serious possibility. 

    O'Neill is not 100% locked up at Villa; he has a rolling yearly contract, and as far as I'm awarem he has not signed an extension.  Lerner has said publicly that O'Neill is going nowhere but that means nothing.

    I know that O'Neill is the preferred candidate of the board, and I'm sure he will be pursued.

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  56. Steve - I am not pleased with myself at all.  I just felt the need to clarify something that I've been attacked for repeatedly over the last month.

    I really do not believe all the negative things you've mentioned will come to pass.

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  57. <span>

    ok if he goes so be it
    please do think twice b4 u write any thank u to rafa
     for his achievements with the club as u 'stated',

     sweet Joseph and mary fella just save the bs please ,
    rafa don’t need your condolence, thanks or whatever 
    its well know exactly wat hes done for us.
    His reign only needs one simple analogy and that will be
     - accomplished what he could with the little given to him.
    DON’T churn out your monotonous collage of figures again with rafas spend it just doent wash.You certainly try hard to massage the figures I give u credit however it’s a waste as multiple scenarios could be demonstrated to provide required results.

    A debate on this or any LFC mangares is fine we all have our opinions, yet I see an almost jilted outlook here, all seem to be labled pro rafa, anti rafa etc..
    It really insults fans ineligence to labeled one way or another and it has clouded opinions on here,
    good debate is often lost in the for or against rafa nonscence.
    I actually feel a change wud be good however quite who is the ?
    Your methods here have been over he mark in many fans eyes
    and the analogies often lacked balance or cohesion.
     the strive to annhilate the rafa period has had a compulsion that belied.


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  58. jammiekanwarsiafugkincunnt11:41 pm, June 02, 2010

    you kanwar are a complete cunnt who will get fukked if you EVER go to Anfield.

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  59. If you knew me in real life, you'd know that's the last thing I would do.

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  60. @ everyone that is happy with this news (if he does , in fact, go ) -

    How long does the new manager (whoever he is) get to win the Prem?

    How much money should he be given to achieve this in your specified time frame?

    Thanks.

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  61. Really...?  It was only a few months back when you declared that you would stop writing for Liverpool Kop until Rafa was sacked.

    Your facebook group, "I love Liverpool but want Rafa out" (or whatever) had 127 members, which says it all really.  You like to position yourself as the Oricle, but in fact you are just a supporter with an opinion, like all of us.  Your opinion is no more important than the next man.

    I really hope the negative things that I have mentioned dont come to pass either, but you are niave if you genuinly that a top manager will want to come to LFC now.

    SO... Jamie I Challenge you to please provide us with a realistic shortlist of candidates that can come in and save Liverpool Football Club? 

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  62. Have you not read the article lfc4life. He has been given a vote of no
    confidence by the board and not jumped ship which is what you are
    saying. Players are the ones who will of been asked if they still trust
    and believe in the manager and a lot of them have said no. there is
    probably more of a chance of gerard staying now that he has gone
    therefore torres too. 

    This is the first time in a long time regarding liverpool that 
    the right decision has been made. Add to that G + H selling
    the club outright and it feels better already and i cant wait
    for the season to start.

    i dont believe Daglish would be a bad acquisition because 
    at least the players would be able to express themselves
    instead of being robots. we have a great spine and would
    only need 3 players.

    All things come too an end and nobody is bigger than the club
    including rafa.

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  63. Question:

    Gerrard said the situation needed to change while he was at the WC [or something like that] guess most people assumed that was new playing faces, did he actually have a clue that this might happen?

    Probably like a few L'pool fans i'm shocked but then that'll pass as you say Jamie and we'll get on with things.

    I'm already interested in who steps in? And inside info on that? 

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  64. This is pretty poor form JK. This big "i told you so" is a bit childish. You're better than that.

    I'd like to thank Rafa Benitez. We're better than we were before he came and he took us the closest to winning the league in 20 years. He made us a force again in Europe. Yes he did some strange things, some strange substitutions and tactics, but overall I think he has been a good manager for us.

    Remember this, we are all Liverpool fans, the best fans in the world so lets take this opportunity to thank the man for what he has done. That is the Liverpool way. Let's not slag him off for what he hasn't done or bask in his dismissal. The last year has been horrible and Rafa has to take some of the blame but let's remember the 4-1 drubbing of Man Utd, the thrashing of Real Madrid, the amazing European nights, and last but in no way least, that night in Istanbul.

    Thank you Rafa, all the best.

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  65. Steve - I stopped writing on the site on December 26th 2009 and vowed not to return until Benitez was gone.  I returned (principally) to defend the club against the rising tide of inaccurate info re debt/interest payments.  I also knew that the end was nigh for Benitez.  The main reason though was, as I said, the inaccurate reporting of the club's debt levels.  No one else was telling thre truth, so I felt compelled.  I love the club above all else - when it's under attack, I want to defend it.

    And you're right; I am just a supporter with an opinion.

    Re the list of candidates.  First, Liverpool FC does not need to be saved!  That's melodramatic.  There are lots of good players in the squad.  The priorities of the board wit the next manager are:

    1. Someone who is, first and foremost, a motivator
    2. Someone who is able to get the maximum out of the current squad
    2. Someone who will make 2-3 astute additions to the squad to compliment the quality we already have

    The theme tune here is maximising the potential that's already at the club.  No major rebuilding is needed; tens of millions doesn't need to be spent.  our squad is only functioning at 30-40% capacity at the moment - the new manager needs to raise that to at least 80% next season, which will see us easily qualify for the CL.

    The no 1 choice of the board is Martin O'Neill.  He has also been my no 1 choice for the last 8 years.  There are plenty of other managers out there who could do a good job.

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  66. I've been to Anfield many times and I've always managed to escape 'unfukked'.  Strange that.

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  67. 2-3 full seasons is a fair amount of time, in my opinion, to see whether the manager is capable of meeting our targets or not (apart from in exceptional circumstances like with Ramos at Spurs).  
    Whether we win it or not depends a lot on what else is going on in the Premiership at the time, but that is enough time for the manager to make a distinct imprint on the team and show whether he is capable of building a title winning team or not.

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  68. Sorry Scotty, you are living in a dream world with those names.  You have listed some of the best managers in the world, and guess what.... none of them would come to Liverpool EVEN IF they were availible.

    Do you think if Liverpool approached Harry Redknapp he would take the Job? NO CHANCE.  How many top managers (THAT ARE BETTER THAN RAFA) are not under contract right now?

    OK - So we have just eliminated the top 20 managers in the world? 

    SO - who do we have left?  That can speak English? That is used to working with bugger all money? who our world class players will respect?

    We will end up with Jurgen SODDING Klinnsmann, but Im sure even he would think twice about it because he knows from first hand expereince that our owners are sly and devious and will probably stab him in the back.

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  69. 5 years and 235 million. Now that sounds fair.

    How about we start with football worth paying £40 to watch
    and then we go from there.

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  70. I thought an interim manager would be a good solution with Benitez being sacked at Christmas, giving the club plenty of time to carry out an extensive search for a new manager and him extra time to evaluate the players.  However now there is no time to waste - we need to bring in a new manager by the end of the World Cup latest, to lift the intense uncertainty that has been surrounding the club for so long, allow him to secure the transfers he wants and give him a full preseason to work with his new charges. 

    That is, if Rafa does indeed do the decent thing and finally move on...  

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  71. Yes it 2 years time - when UEFA change the rules and Liverpool will be so far off the pace we will never catch up

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  72. Until we sell all our best players to pay offf the interest on the debt  and replace one of the best managers in the world (Rafa) with Alex Mcleish

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  73. Gary - On the 21st May, I posted the following on facebook:

    The first thing I will do when Benitez leaves is post an article thanking him for all the good things he's done for LFC, illustrating that although his reign was not as successful as it could have been, he moved the club forward in some important ways. It's all part of taking a long-term view - each manager we have moves us forward in some small way to where we ultimately want to be.


    That remains the case.  I will post something outlining all of Benitez's achievements, and explaining how I believe he has moved the club forward as part of a long-term project to return the club back to the pinnacle of English football.

    Each manager plays their part, and Benitez is no exception.

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  74. I totally agree with your sentiment btw Scotty - the way people talk is like Liverpool FC is some backwater Scottish conference club!

    btw, for all of those that think only "big name managers" can do a job - who would've thought that Avram Grant would do a better job with Chelsea than either Scolari or Hiddink??  
    And for that matter, did Riijkaard, Guardiola, Dalglish etc or even Benitez for that matter (before being handed the reigns at the consecutive times EC finalists), only become good managers once they were handed their big breaks?  Even if we hand the reigns to a relative unknown/newcomer, there is no reason to believe that he is therefore automatically proven to be incapable of leading our club back to glory

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  75. jaimie, i respect your  long-held anti-rafa stance. i just dont hear any realistic alternate suggestions to the amiable spaniard. i predict uncle avram will be parachuted in for a year til the new owners are in situ and they will then say sayonara avram and get in their new man

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  76. read what i said steve! mourinho, hddink and guardioal are the exceptions that would NOT come to liverpool, i honestly believe any other manager in the world would come to us, and contracts mean nothing these days, we are liverpool, the biggest job in world football at this current time, as i said managers have bigger egos than than players, there'll be 20 plus managers rubbin thier hands as we speak right now at the thought of that phone call, who gives a toss if they speak english or not? didnt stop rafa winning the champs league in his first season did it? it never stopped capello (not speaking spanish at the time) winning la liga.....the list could go on, theres that many nationalities in the squad now whatever the language of the manager his message will get thru

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  77. <span>btw, I totally agree with your sentiment Scotty - the way people talk is like Liverpool FC is some backwater Scottish conference club! 
     
    For all of those that think only "big name managers" can do a job - who would've thought that Avram Grant would do a better job with Chelsea than either Scolari or Hiddink??   
    And for that matter, would Riijkaard, Guardiola, Dalglish, Wenger etc or even Benitez for that matter (before being handed the reigns at the consecutive times EC finalists), be considered top class managers if they weren't handed their big breaks at big clubs?  
    Even if we hand the reigns to a relative unknown/newcomer, there is no reason to believe that he is therefore automatically proven to be incapable of leading our club back to glory   :-[ </span>

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  78. Avram Grant?  I seriously doubt it.  We will get a decent manager.  Keep the faith.

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  79. I have to agree - it does seem like a giant "I TOLD YOU SO!" despite the fact that as it stands this is just media rumour and speculation, until it comes from the horse's mouth.

    Something I gathered you abhor, Jamie.

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  80. The preferred choice of the Owners (especially Gillett) is Martin O'Neill.  He is also the preferred choice of Kenny Dalglish.

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  81. and dont believe everything u read in the press, if we dont sign at least one player this summer that will cost 18mil+ ill run naked down rhyl high street, there will be money to spend, we spent 38 mil on 2 players last year when we "had no money"

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  82. So your short list is....

    Martin O'Niel, who is under contract and probably unabtainable.

    This is the bloody point Jamie... there is not a wealth of top class managers availible right now!!

    We know we're in trouble when the Oricle himself cant even provide a shortlist of FIVE suitable candidates that are actually availible!!

    You think Torres, Reina, Masherano, Gerrard are actually going to stay?  I am not buying that - THEY ARE GONE.  The new manager may be lucky and get 50% of the transfer fee to play with, but the good days are over (and Im including this season in 'the good days' memories compared to what's coming) We have to start from scratch and it will take YEARS to recover.

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  83. No doom and gloom for me!
    Some look at change as a guarantee that the worst possible outcomes will occur.  I instead see change as an opportunity to move forwards, whereas no change would've just seen us continue to drift along with the waves.  Now to see whether we will sink or swim!

    p.s.  Brando - in no way was Rafa staying going to secure Torres, Gerrard or Masch at the club.  In all likelihood his departure improves our chances of holding onto them.  Kuyt on the other hand...   *DONT_KNOW*

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  84. Second that... 'tendously triumphal'. I shall be trumpeting that the next time someone asks me to stop dancing on the table when I'm drunk.

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  85. Second that... 'tenuously triumphal'. I shall be trumpeting that the next time someone asks me to stop dancing on the table when I'm drunk.

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  86. Yes, then a previously undiscovered Volcano directly beneath Anfield erupts, destroying the ground and sending debris hundreds of meteres into the air, and some of that debris hits the plane carrying Gerrard, Johnson, mascherano, Torres, Carra back South Africa, causing the plane to crash into the Mersy, robbing us of all our top players in one fell swoop...

    Christ, things are bad, arent they?

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  87. so basically we have sacked rafa and you want to replace him with a twat that has never won anything with any club he has managed for fucks sake get a grip jk by all means get rid of rafa but lets replace him with something better not that irish wanker. Cant anybody show a bit of imagination i am sick of the same names being linked with my club none of which are suitable. You maybe triumphant because what you wanted to happen has but this is still a very sad night for most liverpool supporters i say most because you did have a facebook group that wanted him out with 297 members wonder how long you will give the next incumbant.

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  88. es, then a previously undiscovered Volcano erupts beneath Anfield. annihilating the ground and sending debris burning debris hundreds of meters into the air, which then hits the plane carrying Gerrard, Johnson, Mascherano, Torres, and Carra back from South Africa, causing the plane to crash into the Mersy, robbing us of all our top players in one fell swoop..

    Yep - it's going to be a depressing summer.

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  89. Yes, then a previously undiscovered Volcano erupts beneath Anfield. annihilating the ground and sending debris burning debris hundreds of meters into the air, which then hits the plane carrying Gerrard, Johnson, Mascherano, Torres, and Carra back from South Africa, causing the plane to crash into the Mersy, robbing us of all our top players in one fell swoop.. 
     
    Yep - it's going to be a depressing summer.

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  90. <span>Yes but we sold 38 mil worth of players to spend 38 mil - Dont beleive everything that Jamie Kanwar writes either </span>
    <span></span>
    <span>So give us your short list the Scott....</span>
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    <span>Realistic targets only please</span>

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  91. It already has come from the horse's mouth.  Furthermore, Tony Barrett - who used to be a reporter for The Liverpool Echo - and is fervently pro-benitez, would not report the story for The Times if there was no truth to it. Some sources in the media can actually be trusted.

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  92. Avram Grant did a better job with Chelsea than either of the highly rated Scolari or Hiddink.  A big reputation does not guarantee that the manager will get the job done, and vice versa a small reputation does not guarantee that a manager can not get the job done - ask Wenger, Riijkaard, Blanc, Guardiola, DALGLISH!! etc

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  93. I wouldn't be surprised if Benitez was behind this story being leaked.  I also wouldnt' be surprised is a soft denial was issued by the club tomorrow.

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  94. I wouldn't be surprised if Benitez was behind this story being leaked.  I also wouldn't be surprised if a soft denial was issued by the club tomorrow...

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  95. " There are many posts on facebook (in the comments in response to people, for example) where I've stated categorically that Benitez was leaving this summer"

    So do you honestly expect us to believe that you have insider information that the entire UK press can't get at? Or is it more likely that you're throwing enough sh*t at the wall on such a regular occasion that when some of it eventually sticks, you can say you were there first.

    Or as we Brits so fondly know them, The Tabloids.

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  96. <span>Avram Grant did a better job with Chelsea than either of the highly rated Scolari or Hiddink, and "used car salesman" Redknapp has done a FAR better job than the highly rated Ramos did with Spurs.  </span>

    <span>A big reputation does not guarantee that the manager will get the job done, and vice versa a small reputation does not guarantee that a manager can not get the job done - just look at Wenger, Riijkaard, Blanc, Guardiola, DALGLISH!! etc


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  97. as a manager? personally i'd like to see rijkaard, oniell, i said 2 years ago, even tho hes a manc mark hughes could do a job, tho thats unlikely, i think if we had aproached hiddink instead of fannying about these last few months we could have got him before he dealt with turkey, hodgson ive been a fan of since he was swden manager, but my top 2 are rijkaard and oneill, oniell is only on a one year rolling contract i like his motivational skills and it wouldnt cost too much to get him,

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  98. you are only unfukked for one of two reasons. 1) you sit in the directors box and are in fact what many have accused you of being before a member of the hicks/gillett clan or 2) you are a bag head with slits for your sneaky eyes to allow you to snak in and out

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  99. <span>A manager should be given at least 2 full seasons (aside from in exceptional circumstances like with Ramos at Spurs) as that is a fair amount of time, in my opinion, to evaluate the direction that a manager is taking a club in and the aspiration for the club should still be title challenges.   Whether we win the title or not during that time depends a lot on what else is going on in the Premiership at the time so no time-scale can be put on that, but that is enough time for the manager to make a distinct imprint on the team and show whether he is likely to build a title winning team or not.  <span></span></span>

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  100. O'Neill is an excellent man-motivator, and would no doubt do wonders with our squad in terms of "arms around the shoulder" in times of need.

    Unfortunately he's about as tactically astute as a one-armed tight-rope walker with an itchy arse, and his experience and pedigree in the European Cup is zero.

    Currently we have a manager whose greatest strength is clearly in the tactical side and nuances of the game, and who is clearly less able to put an arm around poor little millionaire teenagers because diddums feels bad he's been left out of the starting eleven this week.

    I have very little sympathy for footballers that need to be treated like spoilt kids, or whose spirit is so easily 'broken' by such a heinos unfeeling manager that they decide to turn up to games with their dummy in their mouth (ie: Babel) waiting for everything to happen to them rather than making it happen for themselves.

    There's a reason why the most sought after managers in the world are excellent statisticians and tacticians, rather than great motivators, it's because that's what works most often.

    O'Neill would not work at LFC. Short term, perhaps, in terms of improving on this season almost certainly (but then so will Rafa next). Long term? He's not nearly got enough in him to take Liverpool to the top and keep us there for years.

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  101. RedJohn - here are tidbits of inside information about this situation all over the place, not just from me.  Read between the lines and it's perfectly evident.

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  102. i only posted the question because Jaimie and many others beleive rafa should have won the league by now...and its the one everyone really wants......so how long is fair for the new man to achieve this?

    No need for sarcy reply.

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  103. theycallmemrBurt1:03 am, June 03, 2010

    agree 100% rafa is the alastair campbell of the football world

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  104. No - my shortlist would be:

    Martin O'Neill
    Felix Magath
    Guus Hiddink
    Laurent Blanc
    Louis Van Gaal
    Marco Van Basten
    Michael Laudrup
    Roy Hodgson
    Manuel Jiminez
    Slaven Bilic
    Ottmar Hitzfeld
    Marcello Lippi (Free after the world-cup)

    And the list goes on...

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  105. Jamie,

    Seriously, you claim to be a liverpool fan....and now this??

    You write with such glee that your right ...wow congrats...(if it is even true)...and if it is...then what???

    Who is out there that is actually going to help us? and who would join a club with chairman like we have with the club having zero cash to spend?

    I do fear for liverpool at the moment, i really do...if rafa leaves, torres, masch, gerard could follow suit...then what....we will find it so hard to challenge for 4th , the cash wont be spent on new players and how can you replace the class of gerard, torres and masch anyway???

    and before u say...YAY WE WILL GET MON...great a manager that has never really done anything...

    so before u stand in your ego....think about liverpool football club...and how our future may be completely screwed now...

    martin o neil?
    roy hodgson?
    avram grant?

    seriously...and u cheer rafa leaving...

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  106. Not that I'm suggesting grant is not a decent manager - he clearly is - i just don't think he's realistically on LFC's radar at the moment.

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  107. In that case, and in all seriousness, I'd be interested in the sources that you consider 'solid' Jamie.

    I remember quoting from the Echo in a previous comment a while back but it was cast aside as media speculation.

    There are very few newspapers I would actually consider worth reading these days, in terms of actual information rather than glorified speculation.

    The only two I am comfortable mentioning are The Times and the Liverpool Echo. Which is shocking considering. I cite these because their level of bullshit seems to be considerably lower than everyone else.

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  108. should we care who Gillete wants as manager?

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  109. bye bye meester. just like benetiz to drag it out and make it so fucken painfull, abit like his football really.

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  110. Probably not.  I'm just relaying information.

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  111. Or 3: No one knows who I am or what I look like so I can come and go as I please ;)

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  112. theycallmemrBurt1:43 am, June 03, 2010

    Not to want to harp on about my dislike of Steven Gerrard but I can now see why Rafa was so desperate to flog him on. 

    A man once said about Malcolm X,<span><span> “Thats too much power for one man to have”  Gerrard carries the alot (too much) weight at Lfc amongst his teammates and amongst the fans and board.  Rafa knew this.  It was a Gullit v Shearer scenario: Keep Gerrard happy and keep your job or flog him and stay in control.  Unfortunately for Rafa he stayed.
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  113. I take your points, RedJohn, but history proves that managers that win the English league are great motivators first, and great tacticians second:

    Ferguson
    Wenger
    Mourinho
    Ancelotti

    And in the past:

    Dalglish
    Shankly
    Paisley
    Clough
    Revie
    Busby

    etc

    Motivators win the title in England.  That may different in other leagues, but in the English league you need a motivator to win you the league.

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  114. theycallmemrBurt2:00 am, June 03, 2010

    Grant is poor.  According to Chelsea players during his year in charge at the Bridge he changed nothing!  He told all the coaches to carry on as normal using Jose Mourinhos training methods.  I could have done that

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  115. Jamie - I remember when you said that the board were waiting until the official start of the new season July 1st (it may have been June 1st, but pretty sure that it was July) before relieving Rafa of his duties, as that would greatly reduce his severance pay, and I was desperately holding onto that info after what I thought was inevitable didn't happen on the culmination of such a disastrous season and his escape routes to Italy began closing up.

    Thank God that it looks like he's moving on before burdening the incoming manager with potentially unwanted, expensive transfers

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  116. no no no to Hughes!  Definite yes's to Riijkaard and Bilic, and O'Neill though not ideal imo also wouldn't be disastrous (his use of his squad at Villa leaves a lot to be desired), but Hughes should not be allowed anywhere near our doors.

    I'd much rather we go after another young and unproven manager than go for a Manc hero!  On top of that, his football at City was no more exciting or inspired than Benitez's, even wit all the attacking talent at his disposal.  Sorry, but Hughes would not be an option for me at all

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  117. Your name here...daboy2:13 am, June 03, 2010

    Suppose you must be proud of youself and your wrong no top managers are going to want to takeover a club imploding.
    Think about this the club reliies heavily on too few all clubs above us spending big and a world of fans expecting success.
    Add to that a bunch of liars for owners, a weak board and no money to spend mate the only ones lining up are on the dole queue. 

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  118. Jaimie,
    You also told us Steven Gerrard's house was up for sale, which turned out to be complete bollocks!
    Before that you said Babel was being sold in January.
    If you spout enough crap, eventually some of it will happen!

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  119. That's your short list?  Brilliant then we are definatley FU*KED

    Some of these names have just been pulled out of a hat...

    Laurant Blanc (EX MAN UTD)
    Slaven Blic
    Michael Laudrop
    Manuel Jiminex
    Felix Mageth
    Marco Van Basten

    NONE OF THESE NAMES HAVE THE PEDAGREE TO MANAGE LIVERPOOL, Compare thier managment records with Rafa's?...  Slaven Bilic FFS!!  What has Marco Van Basten achieved to justify being on your shortlist for manager and saviour of Liverpool football Club?? I could say that about all of the above names - I wonder why you didnt put Ramos in there as well....??  I think he sums up the risk perfectly.

    The following are complete non starters
    Louis Van Gaal - CONTRACT - Would never leave Bayern
    David Moyes - CONTRACT, Would never leave Everton for Liverpool
    Guss Hiddink - CONTRACT, Just turned down Inter Milan
    Martin O'Neill - CONTRACT, What has he won???  NOTHING (please dont quote success in scotland - that means nothing)

    So the only name on your short list which is a realistic target is Hodgson. A good Manager, very experienced, would steady the ship, would be happy to work with bugger all money, BUT IS HE BETTER QUALIFIED THAN RAFA BENITEZ to take Liverpool  to the next level??  How many times has he won the Champions League?  How many times has he won ANY major trophies? Roy Hodgson, whom I have a great deal of respect for - is a crisis manager - and thats why he'll probably get the job, because thats exactly the situation at Liverpool right now.

    If it were possible to get Hiddink, then that would be OK, I could live with that and look forward to the season with a little bit of hope - but he is not availible, and nobody else in his class is either.

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  120. Burt - maybe Scolari should've just continued to pass with the same message too then...

    btw, Chelsea were on a decline even while Mourinho was there.  He knew he'd made a mistake in selling on his wingers without upgrading/replacing them properly and Inter was a perfect way to move on without suffering any damage to his reputation

    Grant then came in and took that team to be close runners up in both the League and Champions League.  Whatever he was doing there, he was doing something right...

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  121. Steve - just because you think certain managers 'don't have the pedigree' doesn't make it so.  You've already made up your mind that it's Apocalypse Now for Liverpool, you'll bend everything to make it fit your depressive view.

    Every manager on the list is capable of doing a good job at Liverpool.  Of that, I have no doubt.  and before you ignorantly dismiss managers like Blanc and Magath, perhaps you should take the time to look into the managerial histories and see what kind of managers they are.

    And the idea that the next manager has to be some kind of world-renowned super-manager is utter myth.

    Ferguson was in the SPL before United; Wenger was in Japan (!); What experience did Bob Paisley have of management before Liverpool?  Dalglish?  What experience of management did Guardiola of barca have?  Blanc at Bordeaux? NONE.  They still won titles for their respective teams though.  Managers do not need to have a long history of winning trophies to become good managers.  history proves that, especially in the English league.  Benitez won two titles with Valencia - was that any guarantee of league success in England? NNO.

    You say things like X 'would never leave....'.  How the frig do you know?!  The answer is, you don't.

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  122. So much different views going around my head is in a spin , seems it's true about Rafa been sacked ..


    Just want to wish Rafa well ...

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  123. Just as you predicted Jamie...

    All I can say is

    Good luck Rafa on your future ventures, through good times and bad times, it has been six years but it is the end of the road. All of the best!!!

    I would just like to say to all Pool supporters who are implying that our club is F***** without Bentez, THIS IS LIVERPOOL AND WILL STILL BE NO MATTER WHICH INDIVUDUAL LEAVES THE CLUB!!! 

    And I am sure soon to be we will have new owners too!!! Exactly what this club needed, changes from top to bottom.
    Jaimie, now we can start being POSITIVE again!!! :-D

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  124. Looks your dream has finally come true Jamie!

    Maybe we'll see a more positive 'Liverpool kop' website now....although I won't hold my breath.

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  125. Yosser

    Correct me if Im wrong, werent you calling for Rafas head too?

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  126. And how the frig do you know they would?  The answer is you dont either.  You are assuming thay would becuase of our history, and I dont think they they would want to work under our owners and all the restraints that Rafa had to work under. 

    And besides... Slaven Bilic? Why would he do a better job thna Rafa??  Have Croatia qualified for the World Cup? What has Marco Van Basten done?  Managed Holland to no success, sacked by Ajax - That is not the pedegree to manage LFC.

    Blanc?  OK so  he has won the French championship??  So what, Lets hire Steve Mclaren hes won 2 Dutch championshsips and taken Boro to the UEFA cup final - but he still fucking usless

    None of the managers you have listed (that are relaistic targets) are gaurenteed to succeed, all of them are a MASSIVE risk that a more likley to backfire big time. 

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  127. Yes Max I was to an extent. The fact was Rafa's reign had become stale and a change was probably needed. The change needs to be right though. I'm deeply concerned about the quartet of Purslow, Broughton, Hicks and Gilletts ability to bring in a decent manager. The blind leading the blind comes to mind.

    As I've said before the Hodge would be my choice although MON could be effective aswell. We can forget about the Van Gall's and Hiddinks for now....the club is just not in the position to attract managers of that calibre at the the moment.

    I'm just hoping we'll see a bit more positivity on this site now. I'm all up 'critical realism' re liverpool fc but sometimes the articles on this site appear just plain inflammatory, like Jamie is looking for a fight.

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  128. If its true ??? it was the board who want to sack Rafa and not the yanks { but board must have approached them for their backing } and they first approached the players { some say some players approached certain board members , but i think the players are to clever for that} ..

    Will our best players stay or will they still leave if that was their intention before Rafa maybe been sacked has happened ?

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  129. Yosser - the articles are not inflammatory.  I have been worried about the direction the football side of things was going under Benitez for years.  I am against his style of management, which is why I have been constantly critical of him.  I have endlessly expained in detail *whay* I believe he is the wrong manager for the club, and that has come from my love for the *club*.  It's a classic case of individual vs. club - you will not find any articles on this site criticising the club; you will find articles criticising individuals (mainly).

    I am critical for a reason.  The debacle of last season is the reason I have been critical of Benitez for so long.  Last season was always going to happen at some point under him; the signs were there from the very first year he was here.

    It took a while, but other fans finally put their bias aside and saw the reality.  Thankfully, so has the club.

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  130. How can Jaimie be looking for a fight. Do you think he does all the work on this site just for the hell of it.

    This is what I do not understand, you say "Looks your dream has finally come true Jamie!" but you also wanted Rafa out Yosser. Does that make sense? 

    Is it Jaimie who has ended Rafas time at LFC? Is it the supporters who wanted him out that have ended his time at LFC? If that was the case then he would have been gone long time ago.

    Now people are once again taking the mickey out of Jaimie becuase of his SO CALLED NEGATIVE ARTICLES.

    I thought that everyone had a right to opinion? Yet we get those who cant practice what they preach, isnt that right Yosser?

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  131. Well Jamie looks like you got your way.
    A brighter future you say.
    I hope you are right but I doubt it. What manager in his right mind of high quality would accept the poisoned chalice that Hicks and Gillett have turned our club into. The best we can hope for is an internal temporary appointment until new owners can be persuaded to part with a ridiculous amount of money and will then install their own man no doubt.
    Unless a permanent appointment of quality is made (Hiddink?) I can see Stevie, Nando, Masch and Agger off to more stable/successful places.

    With Rafa goes the very last vestige of stability.

    The Americans have a saying. Be careful what you wish for. I hope your wishes don't come back to haunt you.

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  132. And there is one more thing left to do for you Redrobbo and that is...

    :'(

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  133. What we have to remember is that the players who want to be at Anfield for the clubs sake will stay and those who wanted to be here because of the manager will leave...

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  134. LOLS. Notice Max the phrase 'to an extent'. Yes I did want rafa out but under the proviso that a suitable and capable replacement was lined up.

    I'm off to TLW. This site is full of maniacs frothing at the mouth more keen on shouting people down than engaging than intelligent debate. Adios putas madres!

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  135. Yes, it will be great to be enjoy being a Liverpool fan again :)

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  136. Unless we appoint Alex McCleish or Mark Hughes, of course =-O

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  137. I'm all out of medals.

    Dude if you have so many 'contacts' why aren't you working in the real press?

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  138. Yosser, just to remind you what you said back in March this year

    <span><span>Yosser Hughes</span><img></img></span> says:22 March 2010, 11:49:22 PM<span><span>“</span></span>Christ the future looks bleak as a Liverpool supporter. Gerrard and Carra getting on, Torres probably leaving, virtually nothing coming up from the academy and worst of all a complete lack of direction at boardroom level.  
     
    It may sound incredibly pessimistic but unless there is a massive shakeup at the upper echelons of the club and Rafa does the decent thing and fucks off to Madrid or Juve (if they'll take him) than I can see us falling down the table rapidly and hard over the coming seasons. If only moores had sold to Morgan who - although lacking the funds - would have had the best interests of the club at heart and undoubtedly ensured a greater level of stability and kept the traditions of the club intact.   
     
    The club is in dissaray at all levels and Rafa, H+G and Moores are all to blame. We are a million miles away from the likes of United and Arsenal and unless there are drastic changes in the summer we face a long period of mediocrity. And that's a fact. So you wanted Rafa out to 'to an extent'. ???Hey Yosser, I guess you will have to go shouting people down elswhere... 

    Practice what you preach mate.

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  139. Simple: I don't want to.

    I want to write what I like - I don't what to have to work within someone else's editorial agenda.

    I have had the opportunity to write for the 'real press' but I didn't take it, for the reasons above.

    Not everyone's dream is to write for a newspaper; it certainly isn't mine.  I'm quite happy with the way things are.  Plus, I already have my dream job, so there's no way I would leave that.

    I am independent.  I can write what I like, when I like without interference.  That's the way I like it.

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  140. Plus with the real press, you can't delete things you got wrong and pretend they never happened. Nor can you delete any comments on articles that comprehensively prove you wrong.

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  141. You're a pen for higher Jaimie, which is worse than a Hack, at least some of them have a shred of decency, you write for the highest bidder - I wonder who employs your "services" now?

    I've got to howl at your claims of insider info, according to Tony Barrett you know as much as anybody walking the street - your articles are based purely on your opinion and as such are completely speculative.

    Nice article about your own self importance by the way, I think even Stalin would be proud of how "me" this article is!

    You may have fooled many people here, especially "Max" the runt from SA, but for those of us who actually know a thing or two you're an amusing sideline.

    Your Rafa out campaign? What was it 200 members? The SOS campaign to rid LFC of H&G 6000 and rising every minute - the People have spoken, you lose.

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  142. You're a pen for higher Jaimie, which is worse than a Hack, at least some of them have a shred of decency, you write for the highest bidder - I wonder who employs your "services" now?

    I've got to howl at your claims of insider info, according to Tony Barrett you know as much as anybody walking the street - your articles are based purely on your opinion and as such are completely speculative.

    Nice article about your own self importance by the way, I think even Stalin would be proud of how "me" this article is!

    You may have fooled many people here, especially "Max" the runt from SA, but for those of us who actually know a thing or two you're an amusing sideline.

    Your Rafa out campaign? What was it 200 members? The SOS campaign to rid LFC of H&G 6000 and rising every minute - the People have spoken, you lose.

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  143. You're a pen for higher Jaimie, which is worse than a Hack, at least some of them have a shred of decency, you write for the highest bidder - I wonder who employs your "services" now?

    I've got to howl at your claims of insider info, according to Tony Barrett you know as much as anybody walking the street - your articles are based purely on your opinion and as such are completely speculative.

    Nice article about your own self importance by the way, I think even Stalin would be proud of how "me" this article is!

    You may have fooled many people here, especially "Max" the runt from SA, but for those of us who actually know a thing or two you're an amusing sideline.

    Your Rafa out campaign? What was it 200 members? The SOS campaign to rid LFC of H&G 6000 and rising every minute - the People have spoken, you lose.

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  144. You're a pen for hire Jaimie, which is worse than a Hack, at least some of them have a shred of decency, you write for the highest bidder - I wonder who employs your "services" now?

    I've got to howl at your claims of insider info, according to Tony Barrett you know as much as anybody walking the street - your articles are based purely on your opinion and as such are completely speculative.

    Nice article about your own self importance by the way, I think even Stalin would be proud of how "me" this article is!

    You may have fooled many people here, especially "Max" the runt from SA, but for those of us who actually know a thing or two you're an amusing sideline.

    Your Rafa out campaign? What was it 200 members? The SOS campaign to rid LFC of H&G 6000 and rising every minute - the People have spoken, you lose.

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  145. You're a pen for hire Jaimie, which is worse than a Hack, at least some of them have a shred of decency, you write for the highest bidder - I wonder who employs your "services" now?

    I've got to howl at your claims of insider info, according to Tony Barrett you know as much as anybody walking the street - your articles are based purely on your opinion and as such are completely speculative.

    Nice article about your own self importance by the way, I think even Stalin would be proud of how "me" this article is!

    You may have fooled many people here, especially "Max" the runt from SA, but for those of us who actually know a thing or two you're an amusing sideline.

    Your Rafa out campaign? What was it 200 members? The SOS campaign to rid LFC of H&G 6000 and rising every minute - the People have spoken, you lose.

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  146. Anfield81

    There is also one more thing for you to do and that is...

    :'(  on Rafas shoulder...

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  147. Max, I'm not Pro or Anti Benitez, I'll support the manager whilst he's in charge of the Club and whilst he's doing a job that matches my personal expectations based on the circumstances he's in, that's all.

    I'm not going to cry on his shoulder Max, I suggest you raise your intellect from its gutteral level if you're going to attempt to belittle me kid.

    What I find intriguing is that Jaimie allows you to insult everyone and anyone who may support Benitez but deletes any comment that aims an insult as a retort to your snide remarks.

    Does Max's comment not break your comments policy Jaimie? I think you'll find it does, so why do you continue to allow him to insult many of the people here?

    Don't you get it Max? You're not a very intelligent kid are you? Do you not wonder why JK deletes the reponses to your remarks? It's because they make you look a complete fool, and as he's a bit fond of you he deletes them, it's like protecting a mentally handicapped child, it's quite sweet really.

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  148. Max, I'm not Pro or Anti Benitez, I'll support the manager whilst he's in charge of the Club and whilst he's doing a job that matches my personal expectations based on the circumstances he's in, that's all.

    I'm not going to cry on his shoulder Max, I suggest you raise your intellect from its gutteral level if you're going to attempt to belittle me kid.

    What I find intriguing is that Jaimie allows you to insult everyone and anyone who may support Benitez but deletes any comment that aims an insult as a retort to your snide remarks.

    Does Max's comment not break your comments policy Jaimie? I think you'll find it does, so why do you continue to allow him to insult many of the people here?

    Don't you get it Max? You're not a very intelligent kid are you? Do you not wonder why JK deletes the reponses to your remarks? It's because they make you look a complete fool, and as he's a bit fond of you he deletes them, it's like protecting a mentally handicapped child, it's quite sweet really.

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  149. Max, I'm not Pro or Anti Benitez, I'll support the manager whilst he's in charge of the Club and whilst he's doing a job that matches my personal expectations based on the circumstances he's in, that's all.

    I'm not going to cry on his shoulder Max, I suggest you raise your intellect from its gutteral level if you're going to attempt to belittle me kid.

    What I find intriguing is that Jaimie allows you to insult everyone and anyone who may support Benitez but deletes any comment that aims an insult as a retort to your snide remarks.

    Does Max's comment not break your comments policy Jaimie? I think you'll find it does, so why do you continue to allow him to insult many of the people here?

    Don't you get it Max? You're not a very intelligent kid are you? Do you not wonder why JK deletes the reponses to your remarks? It's because they make you look a complete fool, and as he's a bit fond of you he deletes them, it's like protecting a mentally handicapped child, it's quite sweet really.

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  150. Anfield81 - Suggesting that someone cries on rafa shoulder is not an insult in any shape or form.  It is banter, and that's fine.  Calling someone handicapped and suggesting they're mentally unstable *is* an insult, which is why I've edited your post.

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  151. Pretty amazing that they have already removed Rafa from the first team staff on the official site.

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  152. Hughes???? Hughes???? That was the biggest laugh of my day thanks for that! :D

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  153. There is always a silver lining. That volcano will wipe out Goodison too... :)

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  154. I think this is the most self congratutory article I have ever read. I know countless people who have expressed an interest in Benitez leaving, and, like you, suggested that he will leave before the start of next season, with or without sources. So what if this is your big 'F**K You' to your 'detractors' who claimed your knowledge of goings on inside liverpool were questionable. The outcome of Benitez being sacked won't have changed people's minds on whether you are talking rubbish or not. I for one don't believe you have superior information than the rest of us, just because you guessed right on a 50/50 chance that a manager would get sacked. Please, start writing some proper, constructive articles!

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  155. Dear God - you really are on some sort of delusional ego-trip with this rubbish JK, aren't you?!

    One of the darkest days in the history of our club and all you can do is get on your little corner of cyberspace and crow "I told you so"??

    I've read your anti-Benitez agenda for quite some time and read your justifications for it all as well in silence, disagreeing with a lot of what you said but never felt compelled to join in your "debates."

    Until now.

    Can I first say that this is the last time I will ever visit this site. I've had it with all your sanctimonious pontifications.

    Initially, your website started off as an interesting take on all things Liverpool and I appreciated your viewpoints, even if I seldom agreed with them.

    In the last few months however, in tandem with the decrease in Liverpool's fortunes, both on and off the pitch, I feel that this website has become nothing more than a virtual trumpet for you to blow and a stick to beat Benitez over the head with.

    A condescending "I'm right you're wrong and this is why I'm right", "Benitez has to go", kind of attitude that at times I have, at best, found difficult to put up with.

    For everyone out there that is glad to see the back of Rafa....

    I don't see how getting rid of Rafa (who by all reports looks like he's off to manage none other than the reigning European Champions) and replacing him with Roy Hodgson or Martin O'Neill can be "for the best"

    Never mind the length of time and of course funds - which we don't have - that the new manager will require to build his own team.

    Houllier had a 5-year plan to win the title as did Benitez - so how long for the next manager?

    Neither of his predecessors succeeded but you can't seriously think that after one bad season and after the improvements that Benitez has made to the team and the investments being made in the youth system, that getting rid of Rafa now - and having to pay him 6 million for the privelege - will suddenly fix everything?!

    Notwithstanding all the background staff that will leave and have to be replaced, which will be an expensive and lengthy exercise.

    How can this scenario seriously be considered to "be for the best"?

    You don't know what you've got until it's gone and I for one am very, very sad to see Rafa go.

    I realise that no-one is bigger than the club - not even Rafa - but surely he deserved to be treated with a little more dignity and respect than getting stabbed in the back the moment he went on holiday at the end of a tough season.

    After the loyal service he gave us and the glory nights that he delivered for which we collectively basked in, surely he deserved better from his employers?

    The people at the top of our once great club are totally inept and are very quickly turning us into the next Newcastle.

    Good Luck with this little corner of Cyberspace JK. All you "Benitez Out" people that congregate in this corner of cyberspace - I hope you're all happy.

    I can't help compare it with how Alonso was suddenly the greatest player at the club AFTER he left.

    Perhaps now that Rafa has gone, some of you will waken up and realise that Rafa was the right man, in these most difficult of circumstances.

    I don't think I am exaggerating when I say that we are staring into the abyss.

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  156. Interesting, in other articles you claim that you aren't a stooge for the owners but then in this article you say that you often receive information straight from the horses mouth.

    So which is it, are you a stooge or are you being played?

    Congratulations on finally getting your man, I hope you are happy.  

    Personally I think we've just let one of the best coach's in the world go, giving the reasons as football related when everyone knows that the board have been distracting Rafa for the last two years and made him play politics instead of coaching.

    I just hope you realise how much vitriol you are likely to receive if the new man doesn't get off to a flyer - especially if it's O'neill.

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  157. You are assuming that information I receive is from one of the owners.  There are dozens of people at Anfield, not just the Owners.  And I do not just accept anything I'm told; I seek to verify it with some other reliable source.

    And I couldn't care less what vitriol is hurled my way.  It's not about getting off to a flier; fans with expectation will be disappointed.  Houllier and Benitez had time to mould their own squad.  The same should be granted to the new manager.  And let's not forget, both Houlllier and Benitez's first seasons were atrocious in the league.  With Benitez, he started as he finished: failing to squalify for the CL.

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