Liverpool FC has raised season ticket prices by 7%. Predictably, The Daily Mail (and other press vultures) have seized the opportunity to put a negative spin on the situation. Some fans will also (inevitably) use the news as yet another stick with which to beat the Owners. Seriously though, what's the big deal?
Liverpool's new season ticket prices range from £680-£785 for adults. How does that compare to other top-tier UK clubs?
Chelsea: £550 to £1,210
Man United: £513 to £931.
Arsenal: £855 to £1,825
Spurs: £650 to £1,175
Liverpool's top season ticket price is much lower than the top price of any of the other elite clubs in the Premier League, and the lowest prices also compares favourably.
Do Liverpool FC not have a commercial duty to remain competitive? The price rise is justifiable and fair, especially in comparison with other teams in the Premier League.
Clearly, it is Chelsea, Arsenal and Spurs fans who are at most risk of being ripped off when it comes to season tickets, not Liverpool fans
Liverpool's new season ticket prices range from £680-£785 for adults. How does that compare to other top-tier UK clubs?
Chelsea: £550 to £1,210
Man United: £513 to £931.
Arsenal: £855 to £1,825
Spurs: £650 to £1,175
Liverpool's top season ticket price is much lower than the top price of any of the other elite clubs in the Premier League, and the lowest prices also compares favourably.
Do Liverpool FC not have a commercial duty to remain competitive? The price rise is justifiable and fair, especially in comparison with other teams in the Premier League.
Clearly, it is Chelsea, Arsenal and Spurs fans who are at most risk of being ripped off when it comes to season tickets, not Liverpool fans
7% is above the rate of imflation in the UK, no CL football next year, stars might leave and credit crunch, people not having a lot of money. Just some reasons why people might be upset at such an increase.
ReplyDeleteAlso 3 out of the 4 clubs you mentioned you can actually get cheaper season tickets than at Liverpool.
But i understand that we need to raise more money, shame the fans have to pay, i wounder if H+G will dip into their *own* pockets this summer?
Deluded & ignorant of all matters LFC - stick to discussing Utd
ReplyDeleteWhat's the big deal Jamie?
ReplyDeleteThe big deal is that those fans who actually go to games will now have to fork out more cash.
More cash to owners who are damaging our club.
"<span>the lowest prices also compares favourably."</span>
ReplyDeleteErrrr im sure im not the only one who can see that our lowest prices is MORE than Chelsea, Man U and Spurs.
Perhaps if Benitez hadn't lost the club tens of millions through failing to qualify for the CL, season ticket prices might not have been raised...?
ReplyDeleteDue to the catasrophe of last season, and the cost of paying off Benitez, the club will take a revenue hit over the next year. A slight rise in seaso ticket prices is a necessity.
The big deal is they are all in the CL, 3 are based in London whenre the cost of living is higher than up here, and as somoene else said :
ReplyDeleteThe big deal is that those fans who actually go to games will now have to fork out more cash.
More cash to owners who are damaging our club.
Quick bit of research: the other 2 clubs who finished above us are charging:
ReplyDeleteMan City £250-£650
Aston Villa £350-£550
then our local rivals
Everton £443-£631
All these clubs have signifcant discounts for kids and over 65's.
Not surprising people are angry really.
Liverpool also has significant discounts for kids and over 65s. What's your point?
ReplyDeletedont forget to mention the cost to pay off the debt that h&g put on the club??
ReplyDeletegot your job on the offical site yet Jamie?
ReplyDeleteI think you'll find that fans will resent paying out any amount of money while the Americans are using club funds to service their debts etc. I don't think people are worried about the price increase, it's that many fans don't think it will benefit the club. I know you have argued that the debt situation isn't that bad, but fans don't want to pay for their purchase of the club no matter what it's costing. The Yanks are draining the club, if they were gone the extra cash would go on players etc but it is unlikely it will. Thats the big deal
ReplyDeleteThis price increase is inevitable - it's happening everywhere in the world. If fans are angry, don't buy and boycott. Otherwise stop complaining. Don't forget GBP fell alot recently. Loans interest will be costlier. The fact remains the club is debt ridden and the yanks are still in charge.
ReplyDeletedon't buy and boycott? you're not talking about you're favourite chocolate bar you're talking about a football club that people hold close to their hearts, it isn't that simple
ReplyDeletei would pay £1000 for my season ticket if it was going to get used on a stadium or players, although the yanks are jokes and i would like to kill them i think they will back the new manager with money. so stop moaning about a couple of quid and start supporting your team. non of you people arguing probably even have a season ticket
ReplyDeleteDont forget the tens of millions Benitez made for the club by winning the champions league, reaching the final, reaching a semi final. Only this year has Benitez failed to reach the Champions league. He managed to get Liverpool to number one seeded team in Europe because of his success in Europe and made HICKS+GILLETT a fortune
ReplyDeleteWho was talking about Rafa? Rafa has gone, lets look to the future.
ReplyDeleteOn another note, i hope the managing team at Liverpool had the foresight to put a clause in Rafa's golden handshake that if he finds a new club before the start of the season that we pay him nothing in compensation?
If Rafa hadn't of qualified for the Champions League every year barr one then we wouldn't have players like Gerrard, Torress, Masch, Reina even playing for the club. Not to mention the amount of money he generated from his sucess in the competition.
ReplyDeleteDaft Comment Jaimie
Easy for someone who has never goes to the game to bleat on about this isn't it?
ReplyDeleteEver heard of socio-economic status you nonce. Its a working class area.
ReplyDeleteMaybe if Rafa hddnt got us 120m in champions league winnings we'd have been paying near £800 alot sooner.
ReplyDeleteThe point is in a world wide recession the club is increasing season ticket prices by 7%.
ReplyDeleteI would find it interesting what the average price of a season ticket is at all those clubs you have mentioned. Based on how many of each category get sold of course. Is there a way to calculate that? Our prices may come out to be favourable in deed.
ReplyDeleteErr, excuse me mate, but i do have a season ticket and it's jus tbeen increased by £50 and im not happy, in a season where we have gone backwards. You can only support the team if you've got the money some of have to beg,borrow and steal to keep hold of these.
ReplyDeleteI you don't like the prices then don't buy a season ticket. Nobody is forcing you to.
ReplyDeleteFootball fans have to get away from thinking of 'our' club. Its not. Its Hicks and Gilletts club; they own it, you don't. If you want to make a difference, then don't buy anything from them until they are forced to sell.
Don't end up like the Mancs who pay the big tickets prices, and wear their replica shirt from the club shop with a yellow and green 'protest' scarf. The Glazers don't care what scarf you were as long as they continue to purchase.
3 of those clubs are in Lodon and one is the most succesful club of the last 20 years, what do you expect they should be higher, and in 3 of the 4 options there's are cheaper than ours in some places.
ReplyDeleteI dont see how you can include Spurs fans in the list of "at most risk of being ripped off". Out of the top 4 teams (and 1 seventh placed team), Spurs fans, along with Man United and Chelsea are able to pick up a season ticket cheaper than fans of your own club. I get that you're obviously referring to the top price of the ticket but you must realise...you get what you pay for.
ReplyDeleteThis means that if you are happy enough to "choose" to pay the higher fee you'll be getting;
-a seat right next to a pitch where some of the best football in the league is played
-hospitality well above the standard that could be expected at Anfield under the current climate
-Champions League football.
3 things that Liverpool FC could only dream of offering.
I personally think the season ticket prices are a rip-off at Anfield because even £680 is far to much to watch easily the most boring breed of football ever to grace the Premier League.
If I were the FA I would force Liverpool FC to pay their fans to come to the games because each match is almost 2 hours of desperation and sadness that no attendie will ever get back!!
...and that's before you go anywhere near spending nearly 800 quid!!
I would have no problem with paying the extra on my season ticket if it were going on tranfers instead of servicing the debt of those two dirty dealing fraudsters you strangely champion!
ReplyDeleteJaimie,
ReplyDeleteCome on... There are thousand of reasons for a raise !!!
And this guy has already gone. So, why bite like a dog ?
jaimie what about todays other big story ie hicks scaring of investors because of the scandalous price he is seeking for the club,even gillette is prepared to lower the price to sell.can you talk some sense to your buddy and get him to move on
ReplyDeleteAs Rafa always claimed that he only has the best for the club at heart he will surely give the money back without asking. Or is he after all a greedy bastard?
ReplyDeleteA new manager may (or may not) bring something else than "easily the most boring breed of football ever to grace the Premier League". I think we have the players to play more attractive football.
ReplyDeleteWell E of them clubs are in London with higher cost of living. I dont think it a problem paying a little bit more so long as some money is put in to some new players.
ReplyDeleteAlso Jamie there a story flying around the papers today that H & G have knocked back two very good offers to sell, this coming from Bar Cap, can you send your buddy Hicks an email and ask him if its ture and why?
well for starters 3 of the teams are in london so cost of living etc. But i dont mind the price going up at little if it means we will get some new players in and the next manager will be playing nice football. I would pay £8 never mind £800 to watch football like last season.
ReplyDeleteSo Jamie will you be writing something about the other big story today?
How accrording to BarCap H&G have knocked back 2 good offers because there looking for 800mil (a price even you must say is unfiar from what they paid 3years ago and the state of the club)
Can you drop you mate Hicks an email and ask him what the score is?
Ni, I won't be writing about it because it's press scaremongering. There is probably a thread of truth (i.e. Hicks turned down two offers), but how do we know they weren't derisory, insulting offers from unsuitable buyers? We don't. The press can make up whatever they want about the sales process - there's no way to verify anyything, and no one will be bothered to counter what's being said.
ReplyDeleteYou believe it if you like. I don't.
Ni, I won't be writing about it because it's press scaremongering. There is probably a thread of truth (i.e. Hicks turned down two offers), but how do we know they weren't derisory, insulting offers from unsuitable buyers? We don't. The press can make up whatever they want about the sales process - there's no way to verify anyything, and no one will be bothered to counter what's being said.
ReplyDeleteYou believe it if you like. I don't.
Did i not read an article from you explaining that the owners should be cut some slack because of a worldwide credit crunch?
ReplyDeleteBut now it is ok to charge fans an additional premium for tickets?
Arguing both sides there. Take a viewpoint, it is one of the other.
Would you stop blameing rafa for everything, i agree it was time for a change but the mans not to blame for everything. and maybe it a time for you to change your debated and stop sticking up for the to money sucking leeches that are ruining our club.
ReplyDeleteWe all know Jaimie is Hick's love child, so don't expect any balanced views on the site to come from anyone but the genuine fans who - like me - only visit to get our fix of anti-Rafa / Pro H&G views before returning to the real world.
ReplyDeleteClearly its been a very disappointing year, but not one I blame Rafa for.
Every manager makes bad buys and sells players on reflection you wish were still with us, but he had to balance a ridulously low / non-existent budget you might have expected at the foot of the PL.
Whether you agree with the Hansens and Lawrensons of the world or not, few managers with significant budgets bring about two CL finals (AF=3 in 20+ yrs, AW=1...) and no decent manager - apart from Rafa - would have put up with owners, Chairman and MD we have for more than a season, so to blame him for not smiling during the last season (and the same is said of a few players upset at the inability to finance quality signings) is a joke.
I for one hope this site starts to add some balance to the vitriol, although suspect the new manager of the current European champions will be the reason the new "yes" man fails to set the world alight for some time yet
Nice try, but I'm not arguing both sides at all. What does raising season ticket prices have to do with the credit crunch?
ReplyDeleteWhatever way you choose to spin it, it is the CLUB that benefits from increased revenue, which is much needed after the shambles of last season. If the club wanted to fleece fans the prices would've been raised to unreasonable levels. The current prices compare favourably with other clubs on a similar quality level to Liverpool.
Spectacularly missing the point.
ReplyDeleteSeason ticket holders, actually a one game a season daytripper, puts more into the club than the owners. That is an indisputable fact. Owners have put none of their own money into the club.
And now they want more. Ridiculous.
Point is you are comparing us versus the 3 London based clubs who all finished in Top 4 last year. Any valid observation through comparison should be like v like.
ReplyDeleteBenitez "lost the club tens of millions" that's probably one of the most ignorant things you've ever written. What about all the money he MADE getting us into champions league every season he was there, 2 finals, 1 semi, 1 quarter. He made a lot more than he "lost", and I bet no other manager would have made as much. Just goes to show Benitez is a victim of his own over achievement, you tend to forget we were top 4 pretenders before Rafa and don't even get me started about Europe where he not only put us back on the world stage with our accomplishments but MADE us plenty of money as well. At least show some respect to the man and don't make comments like that because of ONE bad season!
ReplyDeleteRight. Given my very independent view on things, I'd go and write for the official site and have to adhere to the 'everything is sweetness and light' party line? Sounds kind of unlikely, don't you think?
ReplyDeleteNot to mention the 40 odd million we need for this years interest payments, H & G all expense paid trips etc.,Bogs stadium plans, etc. Lets all blame benitez for all LFC woes.
ReplyDeletelets hope our saviour mr hicks wont rush in and let us be bought over by unsuitable owners just think of the mess we would end up in
ReplyDeleteHear Hear
ReplyDeleteMore bulls**t !
ReplyDeleteAnyone can make figures say what they want.
If you buy on-line then it's £722 for the Annie Rd, last year was £695, so a rise of £27. It's only £785 if you buy from the counter or over the phone.
I am not happy with the rise either, or the fact that it's cheaper should you buy on-line.
Please report accurate facts !
Sparq2112
Ca't you just email him again and find out exactly what the offers where?
ReplyDeleteBy that rationale then perhaps we should have seen a discount when we were reaching the latter stages of the competition then? Being that Rafa had made the club millions of pounds and would have given revenues a boost then surely our owners could have seen us right.
ReplyDeleteDefending a rise in ticket prices is bad enough but using this sort of garbage as reasoning takes the mick. Please admit this was just a fishing trip and that you don't really believe what you have just written?
Not to mentiuon the 100-200 mil we will have to spend on players to become competetive in not only the premier league but the Cl as well. Not to mention the oh so thin talent we currently have on the field because of rafa. Not to mention the absolutely boring ass football under rafa.
ReplyDeleteWon't all the great strides we've made under the new owners on the commercial side offset this loss of revenue? Remember, before these owners came we never had that kind of revenue before so surely the cost of not qualifying for the CL and of sacking Rafa could have been taken care of by that rather tha by implementing a rise in ticket prices?
ReplyDeleteEverything you write is based on annoying real fans, do you have a season ticket? Do you care about rises? Why am I even responding to you as this will be deleted
ReplyDeletemie,
ReplyDeleteThere is nothing justifiable and fair about season ticket prices. Clubs charge what they think they can get away with and there is actually no real incentive for clubs to be competitive given that waiting lists for the top four in terms of season tickets ensures that there someone will pay the price.
I don't think there was anything sensationalist about the daily mail piece IMO this is about whether a liverpool season ticket this year is value for money particularly in the midst of a recession and the obvious failures on the pitch. You have in a previous comment blamed Benitez for this and used this as a justification for this 7% increase. However, this is not about fans using this as a stick to beat H&G this is simply about whether people can afford to buy a seaon ticket and fans where ticket price increase always complain and IMO have the right to do so.
You've talked about how you believe the owners should go and that fair criticism of them is justified and i'd like on your view on why you believe the 7% increase is justified. AS you have stated elsewhere the squad doesn't overhauling the new manager just needs to motivate them and with no CL we should be able to have a real go at getting back into the top 4.
H&G are selling the club so they are not clearly long term owners and so in my view it is perfectly legitimate to question why owners who actively selling the club need to increase ticket prices but such a signifcant amount compared to our rivals who have either frozern ticket prices (Arsenal & Chelsea). I know you wont agree but that's just my view.
Dont' buy tickets then. What you don't seem to get is the easiest way to force these clowns out is to not purchase anything. The only reason they are here is for cash, take their supply away and they will flee quicker than you can faaark off. But no instead of actually doing something constructive, like keeping your money in your wallets, you will spend and consume, and feed the beast.. And keep him lingering until he has devoured everything. And the we are left with the scraps. Baaaaah.. little sheep..
ReplyDeleteYeah but you complain that you want the yanks out, Well the only way to do that is to hit them were it hurts. LFC wont die if you boycott for half a season, but H&G will go nuts if there cash cow stopped supplying cheddar. Its not rocket science. You can still support LFC with all your heart, you just don't have to fork out momey to do so, least until we get rid of the cancer...
ReplyDeleteDont' buy tickets then. What you don't seem to get is the easiest way to force these clowns out is to not purchase anything. The only reason they are here is for cash, take their supply away and they will flee quicker than you can shout faaark off. But no instead of actually doing something constructive, like keeping your money in your wallets, you will spend and consume, and feed the beast.. And keep him lingering until he has devoured everything. And the we are left with the scraps. Baaaaah.. little sheep..
ReplyDeleteRead more: http://www.liverpool-kop.com/2010/06/lfc-season-tickets-are-still-cheaper.html#ixzz0qHcORNDk
People slowing catching on Jaimie?... oh and I'm sure this comment will disappear or be edited to suit like my last....
ReplyDeleteJamie,
ReplyDeleteThere is nothing fair and legitimate about seaon ticket prices! Clubs charge what they think supports will bear and actually there absolutely for clubs to be competititve and its not like if you can't get a liverpool season ticket you'll go get an Everton one instead. Clubs know that they have a captive customer and that why pretty much all of the top 4 clubs have long waiting lists for season tickets meaning that they know that there will always be someone willing to pay to watch the most exciting league in the world.
It is perfectly legitimate for fans who purchase season ticket to question whether the price increase represents value for money given Liverpools current situation. You have in a previous comment blamed this on benitez and the lack of CL money. But as you have stated there will be money from the board for new players (if needed) so why such a significant price increase compared to our rivals who have either frozen prices given the credit crunch or increased by a much smaller amount.
Furthermore the owners have announced that they are selling the club so they are clearly not long term owners so again and this doesn't mean that the fans hate H&G but it is right that they might feel a 7% increase for owners who are intending to take as puch profit out of LFC as they can without putting much money is bit much 8-)
That's just my view anyway.
Jamie,
ReplyDeleteThere is nothing fair and legitimate about seaon ticket prices! Clubs charge what they think supports will bear and actually there absolutely no incentive for clubs to be competititve its not like if you can't get a liverpool season ticket you'll go get an Everton one instead. Clubs know that they have a captive customer base and that's why pretty much all of the top 4 clubs have long waiting lists for season tickets meaning that they know that there will always be someone willing to pay to watch the most exciting league in the world.
It is perfectly legitimate for fans who purchase season ticket to question whether the price increase represents value for money given Liverpools current situation. You have in a previous comment blamed this on benitez and the lack of CL money. But as you have stated there will be money from the board for new players (if needed) so why such a significant price increase compared to our rivals who have either frozen prices given the credit crunch or increased by a much smaller amount.
Furthermore the owners have announced that they are selling the club so they are clearly not long term owners so again and this doesn't mean that the fans hate H&G but it is right that they might feel a 7% increase for owners who are intending to take as puch profit out of LFC as they can is bit much 8-)
That's just my view anyway.
Read more: http://www.liverpool-kop.com/2010/06/lfc-season-tickets-are-still-cheaper.html#ixzz0qHcsIHtb
Sparg - the figures are accurate: I' ve highlighted the lowest possible to highest possible. That covers every possible available price. Or are you suggesting that the club has got it wrong with what's on the official website?
ReplyDeleteI could but he wouldn't tell me. And even if he *did* tell me, I wouldn't report it because I dont't see the benefit to the club in doing so. In any event. Hicks is businessman; he's not going to undermine the sales process by leaking information about sale bids.
ReplyDeleteCatching onto what exactly? The various negative agendas against the club at the moment? I hope so :-)
ReplyDeleteAt what point did i say i wasn't going to boycott?, i am pointing out why fans are annoyed
ReplyDeleteJamie,
ReplyDeleteYes £680 - £785 represents a 7% increase !
£680 - £722 does not.
Dufuss !
I am not a season tickets holder myself, but I very much doubt anyone will give them up, that was my point
ReplyDeleteI used to really enjoy the insight and point off view of the OP, if I didnt always agree with it. However, since <span>Jaimie has started posting again, this site had become a prooganda mouthpeace for H+G. If you read all the articals posted since then, its as if Rafa benitez has single handedly destoryed the club.
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And yeah, dont bother replying, you will be wasting my time!
ReplyDeleteBeing a fan living in the US, raising prices does not affect me, but I wanted to check whether you honestly believe that benitez was the reason behind the club raising ticket prices? Because that is what you are insinuating.
ReplyDelete"Due to the catasrophe of last season, and the cost of paying off Benitez, the club will take a revenue hit over the next year. A slight rise in seaso ticket prices is a necessity."
If that is the case, then the club should have taken this into consideration when they decided to let benitez go.
do you have a season ticket jamie. if so are you happy to pay
ReplyDeletemore money.
i noticed from your figures that there is also cheaper season tickets
at manu, chelsea, and spurs. they are probably not like for like
seats but at anfield you can still get a crap seat for the same
price as a good one in the same stand.
also the facilities at most other grounds are way ahead of us.
last season we got televisions put in and all they show is adverts
is that because we cant afford tv rights, because nearly all the
grounds we went to last year had the game on there t.v.s at half
time, even everton.
my last point though we should of got a discount after watching
last season.
Ha, as if he has a season ticket, he wont come to Liverpool because it's not 'neutral' apparently, wont even discuss his views with people because he's scared and people are going to 'get him'.
ReplyDeletewhat about the extra 50pound if you pay with cash for so called admin charges what a joke
ReplyDelete<span>KPMG have stated Liverpool football clubs existence is at risk."there is a material uncertainty about the ability of the club to continue as a going concern" . These are the world reknown auditors/accountants brought in by the Liverpool football club.</span>
ReplyDeleteYou have mentioned Jamie there has been a lot of scaremongering by press and fans . Would you care to comment Jamie on KPMGs analysis of the stae of Liverpool football club under HICKS+GILLETT?
I believe that last season and consequent loss of revenue means that gaps have to be filled, and raising the cost of season tickets is one of the ways to do that.
ReplyDeleteI disagree that the club shouldn't have let Benitez go. H+G are to blame here though - if not for their utter negligence in handing Benitez a a new 5 year contract, the club might not have had to pay out for Benitez to leave.
Fred - you say 'do you have a season ticket' like it's the easiest thing in the world to obtain. I've been on the waiting list for years, like thousands of other people. getting a season ticket is next to impossible through official channels. However, if I did have a season ticket, I would renew it without hesitation.
ReplyDeleteClubs don't want season ticket holders as they don't spend any money. They like day trippers. The people who come with the family and spend a wedge in the club shop.
ReplyDeleteThis is just another example of the club paying for it's own purchase whilst at the same time increasing the value to prospective purchasers due to the increase in revenue.
That said if I had a season ticket I would still renew it. If anyone has one for dale let me know!!
;)
Bar two that is. We qualified for the 05/06 competition after long discussions with UEFA as we finished outside the qualification places in 2005.
ReplyDeleteYeah, world wide recession and players and staff ask for more and more money, signing on fees, fees if they prolong their contracts, pay offs if they have to go because thing go pear shaped. Someone has to pay for it.
ReplyDeleteWhy am I missing a point when asking a question. Because you don't like my train of thought? Have you ever heard of a "point of view"? Your point of view seems to be "how much put the owners in". My point of view is "how much do clubs earn on average per season ticket sold". See, it's different from yours. I was looking at this from a different angle and asked a different question. If you would now accept that I have the right to have my own thoughts and the right to express them, then you are one step further on the path to tolerance. Thanks for reading.
ReplyDeleteThe price comparisons are disingenuous, Jaimie. You have to work in London, and LFC matches are in Liverpool, so you must have experience of the relative costs of living in the 2 cities. London is more expensive than the rest of the country and has a larger catchment area that the regional clubs.
ReplyDeleteMan U is also not the best comparison. There relentess expansion and the disquiet at the Glazers means that season tickets are comparatively easy to obtain. Hence the lower price at the bottom end.
7% is the most the club think they can get away with increasing the prices without provoking an open revolt. Given the economic climes it is a bit of a kick in the teeth. But even if you don't denigrate the owners, the debt forces the club to maximise its income - and the matchday attendance is the soft target.
When Souness was manager, they were easy to obtain. The downside was that you had to watch a Souness team.
ReplyDeleteBut still ended up in the competition as holders and rightly so. So bar one season we qualified to play in the champions league. You can't say bar 2 because it's not 2 it's one! Whether we qualifed via league position or as winners.
ReplyDeleteThe season ticket price rise was decided before the failure to qualify for the champions league. The price rises were in the prospectus that H&G issued last year. Can't remember the issue date, but it leaked to the net in September last year.
ReplyDeleteYou can't blame the price rise on Rafa. It was happening anyway.
There is a huge waiting list for LFC season tickets, even if they went to £1000 they would still sell out
ReplyDeleteAnybody who refuses to buy theirs in protest won't matter because they will be snapped up
Man City and Chelsea had adverts running on sideline hoarding at tail end of last season trying to flog tickets for cheap, this when City were close to CL spot and Chelsea close to winning league, so they just don't have the same demand for tickets as LFC so ticket price increase was inevitable
What's the big deal? The big deal is that increasing amounts of people won't be able to afford to go to the match any more. Yes its a 'just' a 7% increase this year, but prices have been increasing YOY for some time, and YOY people are being priced out. Maybe a price rise was inevitable, but your callous 'what's the big deal' is beyond the pale. Matchday tickets will rise too, and I suspect by more than 7%. I thought it was a'socialist philosophy' that attracted you to supporting Liverpool, but you couldn't seem to care less about your fellow supporters.
ReplyDeleteSo if God forbid the next liverpool manager will not be able to give us CL football, then either that manager should be fired, or liverpool should increase ticket prices?
ReplyDeleteEverything gets more expensive. Everything.
ReplyDeleteThat's life. Let's move on shall we?
oh498
ReplyDeleteIt is very clear that the americans have to go, I myself cant wait for them to leave. Fact is that the club is up for sale and H&G will only be gone once there is someone who signs on the dotted line. Untill then there is nothing we can do about it. 1000's of flags can be burnt, 1000's of protests can be arranged, do you think that will make H&G run away? A plain and simple NO.
The club will get sold, it is only a question of time but most important is for the right buyer to come around.
Efforts are being made to effect a merchandise boycott. Even to the extent of a designing and producing a kit to replace the official version.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.redandwhitekop.com/forum/index.php?topic=259045.0
There is a groundswell of discontent. It is not yet at the desperation point where people will hand back virtually irreplaceable Season Tickets. But there is a real possibility of a boycott of cup games. And unless the new manager gets proper backing with transfer funds from the owners it is not far off the point where people are disillusioned enough to start giving up season tickets.
There is a huge waiting list for LFC season tickets, even if they went to £1000 they would still sell out
ReplyDeleteThis is a matter for conjecture. The Ticket Office are a bit crap if the truth be told. The Season Ticket Waiting List is more of an abstract concept than an actual list.
Because it was free to get on the list, and never any follow up, people are on the list multiple times at different addresses. Peoples' circumstances change. Some people would no longer be able to attend all the matches, some would not be able to afford it, some will have obtained their season ticket via a transfer from someone else (how most season tickets change hands). The point being that the waiting list would vastly overstate the numbers who actually take up a season ticket. There are not that many fans with the locational advantage, means and intention to take up a season ticket. It is one of the major problems with the proposed 70,000 seat stadium. It is far from clear that the season ticket allocation would sell out.The glamour ties would sell out, but midweek Carling Cup ties have the potential to be embarassingly empty.
This is a long winded way of saying that if prices were raised to £1,000, there would be open revolt amongst the season ticket holders, a fair number would be returned, and it is not automatic that they would be resold at that price.
So you are comparing us to 3 London based clubs and ManU that all finished ahead of us...have you ever been to Liverpool ?
ReplyDeleteNormally the club has an early bird policy, what i find distressing is that season ticket holders that normally renew their tickets as soon as possible with unending loyalty will not be granted any kind of reward for their support because the club took so long to issue the new pricing....
It smells like a very deliberate ploy by the club and is very underhanded.
Blaming our last poor season and Rafa is just lazy !!! Any multi million pound business budgets at least 2 to 3 years ahead. What you should be asking is where are our capital reserves from the last 3 years of increased turnover ....and please don't blame transfers , we have made a profit more often than you care to admit.
Jaimie Kanwar your Liverpool-kop website is a joke.
ReplyDeleteI posted 2 non offensive, post on here yesterday, you dilerbratly didn't put them on.
They weren't offensive, they were to do with season tickets price increase.
I made an observation, you didn't like it so you censored it.
That's just not on.
You will probably not post this one too.
Well 'am just gonna keep copying and pasting it every 10 mins or so.
At least some people WILL get to see it !
I think you're missing a few key points here Jaimie.
ReplyDeleteFor a start MU & Arsenal have FROZEN their ST prices to the same amounts as last season, in Arsenal's case they actually work out £100 CHEAPER due to their lack of progress in Cup competitions.
Chelsea, Tottenham & Arsenal are ALL London based Clubs and are expected to charge a higher top-end than we do. Simple geography means they'll be more expensive, everything in London is more expensive!
The fans are clearly annoyed because we've had a substantial decline in investment or rather we've actually made a PROFIT in the last two transfer windows, and yet we're being bent over a barrel for our ST prices so H&G can milk a bit more money out of us.
I'd have no arguments about paying the increase IF I thought that money was being used to aid our progressions but it isn't. It's going to be spent on mounting debts H&G promised wouldn't be levied against the Club in the first instance.
Do you understand now why we're not happy about the price increase?
I think you're missing a few key points here Jaimie.
ReplyDeleteFor a start MU & Arsenal have FROZEN their ST prices to the same amounts as last season, in Arsenal's case they actually work out £100 CHEAPER due to their lack of progress in Cup competitions.
Chelsea, Tottenham & Arsenal are ALL London based Clubs and are expected to charge a higher top-end than we do. Simple geography means they'll be more expensive, everything in London is more expensive!
The fans are clearly annoyed because we've had a substantial decline in investment or rather we've actually made a PROFIT in the last two transfer windows, and yet we're being bent over a barrel for our ST prices so H&G can milk a bit more money out of us.
I'd have no arguments about paying the increase IF I thought that money was being used to aid our progressions but it isn't. It's going to be spent on mounting debts H&G promised wouldn't be levied against the Club in the first instance.
Do you understand now why we're not happy about the price increase?
I think you're missing a few key points here Jaimie.
ReplyDeleteFor a start MU & Arsenal have FROZEN their ST prices to the same amounts as last season, in Arsenal's case they actually work out £100 CHEAPER due to their lack of progress in Cup competitions.
Chelsea, Tottenham & Arsenal are ALL London based Clubs and are expected to charge a higher top-end than we do. Simple geography means they'll be more expensive, everything in London is more expensive!
The fans are clearly annoyed because we've had a substantial decline in investment or rather we've actually made a PROFIT in the last two transfer windows, and yet we're being bent over a barrel for our ST prices so H&G can milk a bit more money out of us.
I'd have no arguments about paying the increase IF I thought that money was being used to aid our progressions but it isn't. It's going to be spent on mounting debts H&G promised wouldn't be levied against the Club in the first instance.
Do you understand now why we're not happy about the price increase?
I think you're missing a few key points here Jaimie.
ReplyDeleteFor a start MU & Arsenal have FROZEN their ST prices to the same amounts as last season, in Arsenal's case they actually work out £100 CHEAPER due to their lack of progress in Cup competitions.
Chelsea, Tottenham & Arsenal are ALL London based Clubs and are expected to charge a higher top-end than we do. Simple geography means they'll be more expensive, everything in London is more expensive!
The fans are clearly annoyed because we've had a substantial decline in investment or rather we've actually made a PROFIT in the last two transfer windows, and yet we're being bent over a barrel for our ST prices so H&G can milk a bit more money out of us.
I'd have no arguments about paying the increase IF I thought that money was being used to aid our progressions but it isn't. It's going to be spent on mounting debts H&G promised wouldn't be levied against the Club in the first instance.
Do you understand now why we're not happy about the price increase?
one reason people coming into buying us will be the difference between our attendance prices and other big clubs.
ReplyDeletebuyers may well push up prices and associated match day revenue to massive proportions, they will see it as a way to make extra revenue.
the gap beetween our match day prices and others is very large.
This may well price out a lot of fans - this has happened at old trafford.
Perhaps one reason the current owners havent done so is they are already out of favour.
Jamie,
ReplyDeleteOnly Arsenal in the Premier League have more expensive "entry level" season tickets than Liverpool now. The rest is spin.
Cheers
Nick
http://www.sportingintelligence.com/2010/06/09/survey-liverpool-season-ticket-price-hike-of-7-means-only-arsenal’s-prices-higher-09060/
The Arsenal Season Ticket also includes Champions League games too. If you strip them out of the Arsenal Season Ticket there is not much in it.
ReplyDelete<span>"and the lowest prices also compares favourably."</span>
ReplyDeleteEh? The lowest prices are higher than that of all but one of those 4 clubs - and almost £200 higher than Man Utd's!
Inflation plus VAT increase, seems about right to me, if not slightly under. Boy there are a lot of thick twonks on the intenret spouting about things their little brains don't understand.
ReplyDeleteThat's a well thought out comment Jon, don't they say that their is a 20 year wait on the list? But if only a hand-full are returned each year, the list might only be 2000 names long...
ReplyDeleteThere is supposed to be tens of thousands on the list. But as it has been possible at various times to be added to the list by ticking a box on a fancard application, the quality of the list is thought to be highly dubious. You are right, only a handful are ever returned. There is a grey market in passing them on.
ReplyDeleteAnd the other 15 clubs in the league too.
ReplyDeleteThe top price is lower because the facilities aren't as good. What's criminal is that the cheapest option is the second most expensive in the league, behind the excellent Emirates stadium.
ReplyDeleteIt is old habit of Jamie.
ReplyDeletecome to baby janmie baby
ReplyDeleteSeason tickets for Tottenham Hotspur actually range from £650 in the wings to £680 behind goal in the family stand (Paxton Road) and up to £1695, and not £1,175 as was wrongly stated in the article above.
ReplyDeleteOur tickets at WHL average out at more than £1,000 each, making them much more expensive than Liverpool's and probably the most expensive in the country, due to the fact that Arsenal get 7 cup ties included in their season ticket price.
What are you comparing your ticket prices with those clubs for?
ReplyDeleteHow your prices compare with the likes of Manchester City and Aston Villa would tell you more than a comparison with three London clus and a club that has dominated English football for the best part of two decades.
Still, United have cheaper season tickets than Liverpool in 4 sections of our ground, the same price in 8 sections of the ground, and more expensive than Liverpool in 4 parts of the ground... and that's with immoral owners who are bleeding the club dry. To have comparable season ticket prices with us certainly is not something to brag about, when you also consider how much more successful we've been than you for coming up to 20 years.
Jamie Kanwar is a belter!
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