12 Jun 2015

Done Deal #3: Liverpool to sign 'outstanding' international in next 24-hours. Announcement expected on Friday

After the underwhelming signings of James Friggin' Milner and Danny Ings, the slide into transfer mediocrity is set to continue this weekend with the imminent arrival of allegedly ''outstanding' Bolton Wanderers goalkeeper Adam Bogdan.

Last weekend, reports claimed that Liverpool were 'keen on signing Bogdan' as a 'back-up' to Simon Mignolet, and according to the Liverpool Echo today:

"Liverpool FC are expected to complete the signing of Bolton goalkeeper Adam Bogdan, and the deal could be finalised as soon as the next 24 hours".

Brendan Rodgers never seems to learn, and this deal proves once again that he is simply incapable of getting it right in the transfer market. Signing Bogdan is another huge mistake, for the following reasons:

* Mignolet is not good enough for a team with genuine ambitions of challenging for the title and/or maintaining a place in the Champions League. His purple patch of form after Christmas is the *exception* for his career, not the rule, and Rodgers is once again ignoring this.

* For Sunderland and Liverpool, Mignolet has conceded 250 goals in 194 games (an average of 1.3 goals per game), and he's conceded almost 60 goals a season for the last three years.

* It was obvious that Mignolet should've been replaced last summer, but Rodgers failed to act, and it cost Liverpool dearly during the first half of the 2014-15 season.

* Mignolet then reverted to type in the latter stages of the recent trainwreck of a campaign, and conceded 20 goals in the final 11 games of the season.

* Mignolet needs to be replaced, or, at the very least, seriously challenged by a goalkeeper who is capable of becoming Liverpool's permanent number-one. Bogdan is the number-two goalkeeper for a Championship team, which means he's no real challenge at all.

* How is Mignolet going to feel under pressure from a Championship goalkeeper, who, in all probability, won't have the ambition or the confidence to oust Mignolet as the club's number-one?

* Rodgers has clearly been fooled by Mignolet's post-Christmas run of good form, and going into next season with him as the club's undisputed, unchallenged number-one is (IMO) a recipe for disaster.



* As for Bogdan: he is 27, but he's averaged only 15 games a season for the last 8 years, which is an incredibly low number of games for a top-flight goalkeeper. He never seems to be able to command a season-long run of games, which suggests that his managers don't have faith in him.

* Additionally, he recently spent three months on the sidelines with ruptured knee ligaments, and signing a player with such a serious injury in the recent past is (arguably) a mistake.

I don't doubt that Bogdan is a decent goalkeeper, but that's not what Liverpool need! The club needs an experienced, top-class 'keeper who'll come in, exude confidence/control, and basically have the stature and standing to shout and scream at seasoned internationals like Skrtel, Lovren, and Sakho.

In my view, Bogdan is not capable of doing that. It'll just be Brad Jones MK2: a nondescript goalkeeper who is used sparingly, and is incapable of staking a proper claim for a regular first-team place. Mignolet will consequently feel relaxed in the knowledge that he won't be replaced, and that will have a negative impact on his performances.

It really does beggar belief. Rodgers just keeps making the same mistakes over and over again, and when he inevitably gets sacked at some point over the next year, he'll have no one to blame but himself.

Author: Jaimie K



319 comments:

  1. Can't argue Jamie k. All 3 transfers to date will guarantee another 6 th finish at best.

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  2. Our owners' expectations are obviously lower than Reading's and besides if we couldn't afford Reina's salary, we definitely could not afford Cech's wage demands...

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  3. YES!!! Bogdan! Next up Clyne and then if were really lucky Kevin Phillips! Best summer ever!!!!

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  4. Two mediocre keepers at the club is recipe for disaster. This a typical Brendan and transfer committee signing. But what can they do ? They are only given £20 million for new players. Hence they are trying to get free signings and make a final signing worth £20 million. Everyone have been blaming Brendan and Transfer committee while the owners have been hiding. The main reason why thefts after committee have failed in the past has to do with th owners. Eachgime they are in for a marquee signing,the deal ends up in failure because the owner is not willing to sanction another £2-3 Million that will enable the deal to be completed. That is the reason why Brendan and and Henry. Fans must now start targeting the owners instead from now. Building the stadium is all fine, but that is not going to appeal to the fans. Fans want to see great players signed not potentials who could be sold at a profit to sustain the club.

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  5. Totally Agree with Jamie,For 5 Million or Less than that we can get quality backup or atleast some competition to push Mignolet to perform better....Timo Horn,Guilermo Ochoa,David Marshall are all clear challengers for Mignolet...Big No to Bogdan

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  6. I wonder if in his twisted logic, he has gone for Bogdan as number two so that he can bring in somebody top and dispense with Mignolet altogether?

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  7. Papers this morning suggesting the Aussie kid will be signed = we will know soon enough

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  8. I estimate that B R has effectively only spent £30 million per year in net terms - its not fair to say he has blown £200 million and I am as cheesed off with him as most of you

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  9. I agree with you. And he's had to spend a lot of that replacing guys that left instead of just bolstering a stable squad.

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  10. The only reasons i could think of as to why B.R is still manager of Liverpool has to be,FSG would have to pay him out and don't want that hit,or FSG haven't a clue as to what a good manager looks like.Because B.R is going to take the team back to nowhere land,and heartache for LFC fans.YNWA

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  11. Its is definitely right to say BR has blown 200mn. He should be judged by how well he has used the money available to him.

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  12. So you are saying TC and BR haven't got enough financial backing from owners? Really?

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  13. Wages are linked to performance. If you want to compare then take Suarez as a benchmark.

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  14. Adam Bogdan.had really good games against Liverpool last year .
    Played no2 mainly due to injury .
    I really think that Timo Horn would have been an excellent buy ,

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  15. Bodgan is a replacement for Jones and not Mignolet. We will get another keeper to compete with Mignolet am sure.

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  16. There's this German 'keeper that's quite good.

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  17. I'm so done with Liverpool. We sign three players on a free (assuming Bogdan comes) while Roberto Firmino is apparently having his United medical. I'm done. It's actually so easy to find the right players to sign honestly any monkey with half a brain could do it yet we continue to target failure, mediocre, mid-table level players. We wasted however many million last summer on all the wrong signings last summer, like who had actually heard of Markovic before we signed him. And yet the players we should be signing who the fans have been calling for for years are moving now to our rivals for more or less the same money. More to the point an actual world class manager (Klopp) wants to join our train wreck of a team and we won't give him that opportunity over Brendon, the man who undoubtedly had a major role to say in all over those signings that turned out to be complete failures. Honestly I'm so done, and I'm sure almost all fans would agree with me. Consistently failed signings. Consistently missed opportunities to sign great players by making the wrong choices and picking the flops instead. And worst of all, missing the opportunity to have a genuine world class coach (something which given the way the club is heading, is an opportunity we will never have again).
    Just needed to get that rant out.

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  18. Zvawada Unozviwana7:16 am, June 12, 2015

    I will not take your assessment in absolute terms, football aint so straightforward and i think if Bodgan comes he will be a good acquisition, by far better than Brad Jones who I could not even see as a second choice Milner is a very good tactical player, and if we accept the truth better than the legendary Stevie G based on current form and Ings will only get better an upgrade on Borini & Lambert

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  19. Milner? Mediocrity? Are You drunk?

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  20. voice of reason7:18 am, June 12, 2015

    yes milner mediocrity

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  21. How did we even scout this guy properly when he doesn't appear to have played regularly at Bolton.

    Have to say though I think milner and ings are good additions.

    Still want konoplyanka and kondogbia or Carvalho though and Clyne

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  22. JK!!!...........Gazzetta dello Sport (Itay) reporting this morning that Liverpool have 'agreed a deal in principle' for Mateo Kovacic...............17m+add-on's.

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  23. Milner's wages seem to be accepted

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  24. We still have ward as our no 3.

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  25. LFC shopping in the Championship is just a taster of what is to come this season...

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  26. Quite right these are just minor bargain buys like you I am sure the exciting buys will follow once the window actually opens.


    Nice to see you being a bit more encouraging ;-)

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  27. Nothing has stopped us from signing players at this point. You waiting for your lucky packet from LFC?

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  28. Well we need to take out Nothing so we can get on with business

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  29. Martin Skrtel is apparently involved in part exchange, that leaves us with Sakho and Lovren

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  30. Ha what sh#te, have to laugh at all these fans who justify this clown or any other manager whos not up to it by talking about their net and gross spend as if it makes some sort of difference to anything apart from the business side of things, the only people concerned about "net" should be the owners as its their money.. bodgers has had 216 million to spend, end of. it doesnt matter if he brought in 10 billion quid, it doesnt change the fact hes had 216 million to spend!

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  31. Do you not read any reports other than your own. You keep blaming Rodgers for the signings so continue to fuel the get Rodgers out campaign.


    Do you seriously think that if Rodgers could get the likes of Cech, Neto etc he wouldn't go for them. It has become very clear that this transfer window we are looking for cover at a low cost and this type of deal fits that bill.


    This strategy is coming from the owners and not Rodgers so show some responsibility and stop just moaning about everything. Rodgers is in at the moment and if he fails next season he'll be out, so as Shankly once said "If you can't support us when we lose or draw, then don't support us when we win".

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  32. Not according to Gazzetta.....................straight cash.

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  33. Not sure I like that Skrtel had few injuries. Couldn't they have taken Aspas Borini Allen Balotelli Lambert etc etc

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  34. Well croatian newspaper are giving it a go, and it is Kova who is involved

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  35. Croatian manager let it slip last-night too.

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  36. Did he mention the Kovacic transfer too?

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  37. Well maybe Rodgers has faith in Sakho-Lovren, and is looking to oust Skrtel and make some money on him... I personaly say- good riddance to him

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  38. He said he understood him wanting to play for 'a more important club' when asked about Liverpool signing him.

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  39. I wouldn't say that too his face though ;-/

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  40. So he's not coming then?

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  41. Kova is probably coming

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  42. Ok "voice of reason", You need to go to an anti-alcoholism group to get a proper support. Milner is an absolute bargain and there's a reason why any city fans and team mate are crying for his departure. Blind haters get a grip.

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  43. I can imagine it- the bid is around 20 mil.euros, with a 5 mil more + Skrtel, I think we can land him, fingers crossed. p.s Kova is playing tonight vs Italy in Euro qualifiers, be sure to tune in :)

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  44. Well maybe I just don't rate Skrtel all that much, should have been upgraded on 3 years ago ;)

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  45. For The God Sake. One of the most overrated centre back Liverpool have ever seen in their ranks. "Skrtel is a cult hero" when He doesn't know positioning and his ability to read the game practically stands nothing. That's the sign of how much "so called fans" are blatally incompetent in terms of football. My God let it be: Kovacic in Skrtel out would be an upgrade in terms of technical quality.

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  46. I agree he is not top class but given our issues at the back he is a good back up to have as he is seldom injured.

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  47. I think he put on his poker face, he is a Liverpool fan for a long time now

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  48. The bid is 23m euros plus add-on's.

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  49. Unless we can get rid of those who are not good enough then Rodgers may have very little to spend in this coming window.


    Ings, Balotelli, Sturridge, Lambert, Origi, Borini and Yesil all strikers signed by Brendan. Why should he be given another massive transfer kitty?

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  50. maybe just a back up- can't play in a back four or a high line, he's a relic- moving on. Lovren-Sakho now that makes it interesting, maybe Sakho rejuvenates Lovren and helps him defeat his demons

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  51. that sounds about right- croatian papers agree. But if Skrtel is involved than the price is 30 mil., which is what Inter initially asked... Intriguing...

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  52. It does look highly likely that Kova is coming to Liverpool............... :-)

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  53. Well Sportske Novosti are unusually right about these transfers, said the same for Lovren transfer- So if Inter demand 30 mil.euros, and the give 20 mil.cash + Skrtel that would mean the Slovakian is 10mil. rated? Not bad, we get a world beater and get rid of old iron (*feel good dance*)

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  54. In simple terms if you sell a 75 million pound player, you need to spend 75 million on a 1 replacement to get the same quality. Ok it's not an exact science but generally true. So yes net spend is important but not many people seem to realise this.

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  55. Bond an at best should be a third choice keeper, mignolet number two and a new keeper number one. My preference would be. At Ryan, who is a good keeper ,comfortable with ball At his feet, and would be cheap.

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  56. BR thrown away more than 200 mil pounds since his appointment. 200 mil pounds by today's standard is somewhat between 1/3 and 1/2 of a new stadium. You can blame FSG for their go-English policy but certainly not the amount of money they invested into the club on all fronts.

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  57. So you mean if we sold Suarez for 500mn and BR wasted 500mn on duds then he shouldn't be judged bad because his net spend was zero?

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  58. Yup, and another few hundred.

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  59. I know little bit about Bodgan and nothing about Ward so on that basis alone I would take Bodgan as a number 3 over Ward. Also he was free.!!

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  60. This is getting beyond reality now, how can a club like lfc, five times European champion, continue sliding like this? Honestly I want Rodgers to for at least one more season to if he can turn things around but it's now obvious he's slowly turning this mighty Club to a complete midtable side. This signings won't take us forward it will only keep us were we currently now or we slide even further.... I just reckon this man sees this club as the same stature with Reading (club he formerly managed ) and there's absolutely no need of "let's wait and see how it pan out ", Rodgers should be relieved of his duties he's a championship material and should count himself the luckiest man on earth

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  61. So you reckon we are going to sign a GK to make Mignolet our no 2?


    Go have a very strong cup of coffee mate.

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  62. I'm sorry but what did you all expect?


    FSG have no intention of investing any money that doesn't come from sales, salary reduction or increase in revenue.
    The honeymoon is over get used to it until your prepared to vote with your wallet.

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  63. Or maybe FSG are just not interested to see Brendan wasting anymore of LFC's money.

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  64. So top 10 it is then

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  65. If that was the case they would have sacked Brendan but they didn't.
    This smacks of FSG not wanting to pay compensation, or some total lack of direction at the top.
    I think it's both.

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  66. Nobody knows what is happening behind the scenes. It is all guess work. Yesterday I posted a comment about Pascoe and Marsh still not being removed from the official website. It still shows that they are assistant and 1st team coach. Why is this? If thy are gone then why not man up and explain why they have been relieved of their duties?


    You are quite right about a lack of direction. Club being run like a circus.

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  67. You should be directing your thoughts at FSG, they must have sort out a replacement for Brendan. They must have gotten rejected by Klopp, FDB, and Ancelotti.
    No one wants to work with the transfer committee and 'philosophy' of buy young and cheap sell high, one player every season (Suarez 2014, Sterling 2015 Countinho 2016).
    We are here because the Owners want to make money and they will be here with this strategy until they sell the club (after the new stand) or we are in the CL, or they lose money.
    The only one of those that we can make happen as fans is to make them lose money by voting with our wallets.

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  68. This is a very strange term to talk about, net spending. There's no law in any part of the soccer world saying that after selling a player for huge profit, the owner must re-invest the entire amount received + his/her own money into the club, which FSG has been doing all these while. BR spent 117 mil pounds alone during last summer and bring in 8 players and the selling clubs collectively received 117 mil pounds from LFC. This is an undisputable fact. I'm sorry but to talk about net spending is utterly meaningless. How much money you earn from player sales is one thing but how much money you spend on player purchases is another.

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  69. if the bid is 20 mil + Skrtel that means, Inter should be satisfied- around 30 mil in total, meaning the Slovakian is 10 mil rated, not bad, we get a potential world class and get rid of old iron :)

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  70. Swop deals are very rare so it is unlikely that such a deal is going to happen.

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  71. But Skrtel is still one of the more steady defender for us. Not too sure if 10 mil pounds is a good deal.

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  72. I know, what's up with the Italians these days, trying to sign good players? I remember when you used to be able to sell them two Susos and an Aquilani before they'd even *look* at your Lucas. What times we live in.

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  73. I'm sorry but your idea of net spend is totally not logical. Chirag Vyas's example below is the best example given.

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  74. Bogdan made a big impression when he came through in the Premier League, guess it must have been getting on for 10 years ago. He was commanding and athletic and made brilliant saves, got a lot of attention and was linked routinely with significant moves. He was young and raw but a clear talent. I think for some of us it's not such a left-field signing as he might seem to others.

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  75. How do you know he's mediocre? You watch a lot of Bolton?

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  76. That awkward moment when you realize Milan are set to sign Jackson and you go for Ings and Bodgan instead...

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  77. Here's a logical problem for you, thinking about the kind of things that many of you negs have been saying for *years*.


    If you believe that Rodgers' signings doom Liverpool to a relegation struggle or to finish in the bottom half, and we in fact finish top 4 or 5, what does this mean?



    (a) You should reassess the manager who consistently exceeds your expectations
    (b) You should reassess the signings he makes

    (c) You should reassess your own capabilities to make predictions in football
    (d) AMAGAD BR OUT WTH IS THE MATTER WITH YOU


    First correct answer will win a lock of Adam Bogdan's beautiful ging... I mean auburn hair.

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  78. Just look the purchase of Lazar Markovic at 20 mil pounds is more than enough to highlight the ambition of FSG. The only problem here is that they entrust a huge amount of money to the wrong hands.

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  79. How reliable is Gazzetta on a scale of Daily Star to Sky Sports?

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  80. LFC have spent shed loads in transfers since arriving. They do not sign the players, they write the cheques so your point about money in wrong hands is absolutely spot on.

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  81. "More to the point an actual world class manager (Klopp) wants to join our train wreck of a team and we won't give him that opportunity over Brendon" all this. Klopp is what BR pretends to be so if we could actually get Klopp in Jan then we start somewhere.

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  82. True. Although they are not all lost cause: some have not even played at LFC (Ings, Origi), some has been hampered by serious injuries despite of evident contribution/potential (Sturridge, Yesil) and some have failed for now at least (Lambert, Borini, Balotelli and Aspas). Though, the failing trio could have been better if they were managed better (limited chances for Lambert, Borini and Aspas, unfitting tactics for Balotelli).


    The difficult part is that how you can make money out of these as it is evident we cannot keep all. The new guys will not be sold. Selling players with very little action last season through injuries is also very difficult with reasonable price. Also, you will not get high fees for players with poor form. So we really have pickle here.

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  83. Trust me, my friend. You'll find it even more awkward when Arsenal signs Jackson.

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  84. Yeah Lovren is so much better than him isnt he?

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  85. Arsenal would be more understandable considering they have UCL football to offer. Milan does not have European football next season.

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  86. We signed a FREE player for 8 m! now that's genius

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  87. So let me get this right...


    Clearly we are trying to take advantage of the free market which in itself can a smart thing to do.


    On the free market we have players like Khedira, Luiz Adriano, Konoplyanka, Milner etc...


    Instead of focusing on players that will improve our first 11, we are once again buying average squad players and I don't mean Milner in this, I think he will prove to be a good buy but concerned about his wages.


    Instead of trying to sign a player who a season a go we were dying to buy, now that he is available on a free we don't got for him? Instead we buy Ings who is a very average player with nothing in his game that particularly stands out and now we are signing...a back up goalkeeper in the Championship to challenge out current no.1 in the PL, a player that as Jamie said averages 15 games a season or the past 8 years?


    What is going? Haven't they learned anything at all? We are one of the PL biggest wasters of money and we tend to buy players that stand out from average teams in the PL. Clearly that is not working.


    We cannot attract "marquee" signings but then we're going for players who would not even make the bench at United or City.


    There's a storm coming...


    Something fishy is going on...Marsh and Pascoe go...absolute silence from the owners or Ayre...targetting average players...


    We need clarity...who is in charge of what...just sack him already.

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  88. Italy has better food ;0P

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  89. Maybe they want to get Klopp in Jan well that is what I hope atleast.

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  90. Ok, I think I get Siavash point now. But I'm thinking along the line that as Arsenal continue signing players the stature of Jackson Martinez, the lower the chance for us to displace them from the top 4. Anyway, if Arsenal and Milan go head-to-head for this player, chances are London will be the preferred destination over Milan.

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  91. Both gross and net spend are important for different reasons. .All of the top clubs are spending big and net spend is important when comparing performance against those that are merely adding to their squads or investing much more than they receive in sales. On the other hand when you spend a lot of money on new players you can expect to be judged on how they perform and how the team does,


    If you are "forced" to sell players you would rather keep though it is difficult to replace them and new players need time to settle. It is obviously easier to add a couple of players to a squad already doing well than it is to replace several players.

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  92. How do you know Bogdan's an average player though Fdot? That's essential to your larger point about the club being quiet meaning that something's going on, it's like the foundation of your argument. But if it doesn't come from reliable empirical observation, it means you've just based your argument on unreliable evidence...

    Anyway isn't quiet what we all want? For the club to shut up and do its business without holding a press conference every time someone breaks wind? The window isn't even open yet is it?

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  93. That's a very narrow scale you're using there;-)

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  94. "In fact finish top 4 or 5"

    So you have stated that as a fact then for next season.

    Here are some facts for you.

    Southampton spent less than half of what LFC did last season and finished 2 points behind us. For majority of the first half of the season they were showing top 4 form. We spent £50m at Southampton last summer and not once did we show face in the top 4 last season even with a sub standard UTD team waiting for us to take advantage of the situation.

    Now we are shopping in the Championship, signed a player from a relegated team and taken on another player on a massive contract who could now be our highest earner, is he worth that much?

    Delusional:
    A delusion is a belief held with strong conviction despite superior evidence to the contrary. As a pathology, it is distinct from a belief based on false or incomplete information, confabulation, dogma, illusion, or other effects of perception.

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  95. Not interested.

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  96. I mean he can't even hold down a 1st team place at Bolton, a team struggling in the champioship...In fact he was only a 1st team player for about 1-2 seasons a few years back...based on that how will he put Mignolet under pressure?


    Mignolet is an "established" international while Bogdan isn't it. I think it's pretty evident that he is average Rob..I mean no one else is trying to sign him...no one else values him...even Bolton don't value him...yet he's coming to us...same thing with Brad Jones, plucked from Boro to challenge our no.1 when it as clear from the beginning he would be never be able to do so.

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  97. In-form-midfield-protected-Lovren for sure

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  98. Only be kept as a rotation

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  99. Why not? He's not satisfied with his contract, openly talked he could leave, maybe he should go to Inter and make Vidic company. they'd give him a payrise for sure- off with him I say...

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  100. But have you seen him much? What's your personal assessment of the player?

    Bogdan's an experienced keeper coming in as a No. 2 or 3 as a replacement for Jones. I have nothing but positive memories of him in his debut season for Bolton. It seems like a good bit of business to me.

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  101. YES , it Official on LFC website ,Adam Bogdan has joined LFC

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  102. Try Sportske Novosti

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  103. If we buy an average players we can't expect them to suddenly play at a world class level...shopping in mid table or Championship rarely gives results...


    Look:


    Charlie Adam
    Downing
    Carroll
    Jones
    Joe Cole
    Lambert
    Lovren
    Lallana

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  104. I think it is very different running a football club to running a circus.


    To run things properly you have all the different artistes egos to massage, then there are the animals to look after and the clowns to consider and that's just the football club........

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  105. Last summer we was linked with Firmino. At that time it was not big competition for him. But like all other transfers (Eriksen, Salah), we never conclude at right time. We are waiting for competition and then loose because other teams have better managment or bigger attraction for players.

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  106. Yes if we want free transfers, why not Konoplyanka? What happened with our interest for him?

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  107. To be perfectly honest, I haven't. But sometimes stats and playing history tell you all there needs to know.


    Would you be excited if we signed a striker who is let's say...134 appearances had scored 21 goals? In the Champioship and his 27 years old?


    Chances are is a average player, by that I mean not good enough to challenge or impact a team playing higher up.


    If he was a keeper who player 40 games a season for Bolton and impressed then why not? But Bogdan has been at Bolton all his career and has not managed to break into the 1st team consistently or impress enough to warrant him a move higher up.


    Why are we signing him?


    - He's free
    - Low wages
    - Would expect to play
    - Possibly fills the homegrown quota as he has been with Bolton for a long time
    - *Played really well against us in 2 games*

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  108. I can understand the logic of yours saying it's easier to add then to replace. But looking at last summer. We only have LS as the primary exiting player but BR and co. spent 117 mil pounds on 8 different players, not only forwards/strikers but other positions as well. This is a form of 'addition' and not merely 'replacement'. Of course there's a really strong urge for me to start ranting about the effectiveness of the new recruits but I managed to suppress it.

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  109. How dare you put Lallana on that list!

    Yes, I agree that Liverpool have recruited poorly from English football for years. But that doesn't mean there's not good players to be found (Henderson and for me Lallana are both quality players).

    There are plenty of players who have come from lower down the league, from mid-table or further back, to play an important role at big CL clubs in the last 10 or 15 years. I did start writing a list but then my brain started to hurt so I stopped.

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  110. Well i only see it 1 way now that Bogdan has been signed is theres no room for another keeper so Mignolet has to be sold he not good enough to be first keeper.

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  111. Cmon cmon there is still hope for Lovren and Lallana...-isn't there?!

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  112. See, for me that's not enough to build a larger case upon. Gary Cahill came from Bolton too, in the same relegated team I think. Doesn't mean he's a bad player.

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  113. Okay maybe Lallana is granted a bit more time but I still have not seen why he is worth £26M! Waste of money!


    There are some good players in the Championship for sure (Rhodes comes to mind) but if they come to a team with average players like ours then they won't hit the next level...


    Mate...I'm just frustrated.


    Who knows...Milner may do really well and Ings may get 25 goals next season. Then we would all look silly.

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  114. It would not have helped things when we have a manager that thinks right back/right wingback/right winger is collectively one position that any right-sided player can handle. And not only that, the manager also thinks left=right=central as well, in the case of Lazar Markovic playing right wingback and Raheem Sterling, who was primarily a left winger during season 13/14, playing the striker, no.10, right winger and right wingback.

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  115. Apparently the fee for Kovacic has been agreed, Sterling is going going gone.

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  116. If Ings gets 12 i would be delighted.

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  117. I love it when I'm right :) what about Skrtel?

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  118. Man I remember an article done about Lovren when he was at Lyon and it really put me of him...


    The same thing that happened to him at Lyon (form wise) is happening here at Liverpool...I hope he comes back stronger.


    Lallana needs a good pre-season.

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  119. Any news on Kova?

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  120. Right about what?

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  121. Despite playing 40 matches last season, Lallana had not impressed. Definition for 'quality players' differs from person to person. But as far as I can see, I don't think any of the top 4 sides will drool if we say 'pay 25 mil pounds and you can take Lallana away'.

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  122. Logan says the deal is through... Im in the dark :)

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  123. About Kova comming... Whats the fee?

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  124. Well done!


    I agree though that whichever measure you use things did not go as well as they should have or anyone expected. Injuries did not help but that's football for you.

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  125. I hope it's a straight cash deal...

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  126. Not sure but probably nothing less than £20m. What I am more interested in is how much Sterling is going to be sold for to Man City.

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  127. I thought he was our best player in many games during our good period and until he was injured, and produced many of our best moments, such as his goals against West Brom and Swansea. His best form was consistent with the team's best form, and he fulfilled an important role in the squad, despite being unfortunate with injuries at times. As first seasons go, it wasn't bad at all. I was impressed. Very happy that he's a Liverpool player.

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  128. We overpaid for Lallana esp when they werent lining up to sign him should have got him for about half just bloody hopeless.

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  129. So we need to setup a midfield to only protect Lovren.

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  130. I always thought Lyon situation was a one-off thing (he was immature, reckless, unbalanced) and I thought he grew... Well Southampton Lovren wasn't a fluke let's hope he shows up next season along with Sakho

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  131. Ok, fair enough, I would love to see Lallana having more impact in games against the top sides in the coming season. It's all for the good for the club after all. I also hope he won't be made the left or right wingback etc under the same manager.

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  132. No, just a DM which will prevent us from conceding 6 vs lower table teams- teams who scored 6 even though we had Sakho and "warrior" Skrtel in the backline

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  133. Doesnt matter I only want him gone. the mercenary

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  134. Unfortunately that DM is never gonna happen under BR

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  135. 35 mill is my guess

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  136. FSG have to act fast. I don't want to see Raheem Sterling rot on the bench for another 2 seasons before leaving us on a tribunal just like Ing. What's goes around comes around.

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  137. As I always say, what would have been the right price?

    £15m would have been too cheap, no chance an established PL England international in his prime is going for that. That's what you get someone like Javi Garcia, a trundling journeyman, for.

    £18m would have been a bargain and a good bit of business for Liverpool, right? But that's what Calum Chambers cost Arsenal. You don't get a player like Lallana, a creative midfielder, for that money. When you look at the importance of Chambers and Lallana to Southamton, it would be crazy for Chambers to have gone for more, right?

    £20m would have been gratifying, maybe, but we're almost starting to split hairs now. In a market in which Mangala cost Man City £35m, and Herrera cost Man Utd £32m... what is the right price?

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  138. I think the guy responsible for that has been already fired!

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  139. Kevin Phillips would make a hell of a signing... as a striker coach

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  140. Yeah me too Defense should be BR's priority if we are to challenge for anything and he should play Lucas as much as possible the guy is a solid DM.

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  141. As much as it saddens me, it looks like Rodgers will let him go. A real shame, he was more responsible for our good run last season than any of the defenders, as much as some pundits want to convince us otherwise...(e.g Sakho)

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  142. 1 Decent season in the EPL in his mid twenties not worth it and i say this there is reports U##ited just paid 13 million for Firmino now thats good business.

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  143. I just dont know maybe we arent good enough for him who knows?

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  144. Went to Rome this year...didn't see anything special ;0P

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  145. Maybe. It looks like we didn't even try though.

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  146. We were in for him, according to "reports". It's all just paper talk though. God, I've got to do some work.

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  147. They wouldnt do loans there.

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  148. They even payed less for Depay than what we did for Lallana.


    Nobody in their right minds but LFC would have dished out £25m for Lallana and same goes for Marko at £20m.

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  149. So that means at least £10m going for QPR.

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  150. not south enough;-)

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  151. OMG! Where do I order my Bogdan jersey?!?!

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  152. Then again we are the club that payed £35M for Carroll, sold Alonso for £30M and bought an injured Aquilani, sold one of the best players in the world and replaced him with a 32 year old target man and a well none lazy and inspiring player who history shows he would fail again.


    Man...after we beat Tottenham away earlier this season (3rd game I think) I thought everything was going to be alright...

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  153. *scratching his chin and thinking deeply while looking out at the sky*

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  154. Liverpool FC are pleased to announce that personal terms have been agreed with Adam Bogdan and the goalkeeper will join the club on a free transfer on July 1 after his contract with Bolton Wanderers has expired.



    Blimey.

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  155. More! It's 25% sell on fee....ridiculous.

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  156. Sigh! Welcome Adam, nothing personal, it's not your fault.

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  157. We also got ripped off on Mascherano too i am certain they are running a charity to help poorer clubs.

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  158. Whichever way you somehow try to spin this Robo, it's a very underwhelming signing. I'm sure Fdot was aware that Cahill came from struggling Bolton, but I'm sure he's also aware that Cahill was at the very least a standout player for Bolton. Bogdan isn't.

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  159. The more Sterling gets sold for, the more QPR get rewarded.

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  160. welcome to Sicily)

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  161. Very pleased to sign this TOP TOP keeper.. Oh wait

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  162. Mignolet smiling from ear to ear.

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  163. Make Simon Mignolet available!

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  164. We should sell Migs hes not good enough.

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  165. Its not more if he is sold for 35m QPR get 8.75m precisely around 9m.

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  166. He is not even a regular at Bolton.

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  167. We need a player plus cash deal.

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  168. Do you know how I got these scars?

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  169. Doubt we'll sell him for £35M. We just rejected a £30M offer, we want £50M.

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  170. Who is going to take him, and at what price?


    More importantly, if we have just signed a GK form the Championship then who will we sign to replace Mignolet?

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  171. No one can replace Mignolet
    #MignoletNotImpressed

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  172. I said earlier, swop deals are very rare. Not going to happen.

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  173. Not my problem i could toss out 12 names at least we paid around 10 mill i believe at 5 mill there would be takers.

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  174. The Torres deal was sweet...but once again we wasted. We bought Suarez yes...but that £35M we payed for Carroll could have gotten us Silva or a player of the like.

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  175. Spare me please...I do not want to start anything regarding our dearest manager, chief negotiator, transfer committee and scouts.

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  176. Are you feeling a bit bogged down?

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  177. " then who will we sign to replace Mignolet?" Another championship player I guess.

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  178. IMO Migs is going nowhere. Not because we do not want to get rid but because all that will happen is he will be replaced with a player of the same or even worse.

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  179. Lazar Markovic is certainly a gross negligence. Whoever decides he's worth 20 mil pounds, he/she should get his/her own head dunked inside tub-full of water for at least 1 hour.

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  180. Probably i really wanted a new number 1 but it yeah its lookin unlikely.

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  181. You asking me ;-)

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  182. We'll probably go for Szczeny

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  183. This site is too small for two jokers... we need to fight.

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  184. No way! I'm over the moon! I'm so sorry I doubted Rodgers for so long. Everyone on here telling me how wrong I was, I am sorry. I am really really sorry. Obviously Rodgers can attract the best of the best and we will can look forward to playing CL football at Anfield again! YES!

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  185. Dear Sir, shall we forget about what happened during KD's era? It's too much pain for one to bear. Andy Carroll made us the eternal laughing stock of the entire football world. If we should make any comparison for David Silva, Stewart Downing is the best choice of all.

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  186. I've just realised that your nickname could stand for Football Manager.

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  187. Ziegler, Adler etc... full of them

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  188. I am done with getting banned from this site :-)

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  189. I apologize...it was truly painful...

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  190. Talking about the joker, have you seen Leto's joker?

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