4 Nov 2014

Sack Rodgers ASAP? LFC fans give emphatic verdict on BR's future. 71% surprise?

Sack Brendan Rodgers? It's a ridiculous thing to even suggest, but there are fans out there who are in favour of replacing the manager at the earliest opportunity. What is the prevailing view, though? Has Rodgers exhausted his goodwill amongst fans, or is he still the long-term solution?

A few days ago, I conducted a poll on the site asking if Rodgers is still the right manager for LFC:

* 14350 visitors (approx - poll is still ongoing) participated.

* 71% of participants voted YES.

That's an emphatic vote of confidence in the manager, and irrespective of his mistakes this season (and in the transfer market), I personally feel Rodgers deserves that level of support.

If the Reds fail to qualify for the Champions League, then Rodgers' position will may come under scrutiny, but replacing the manager before the end of the season is (IMO) utter madness, and (arguably) unfair. In any event, FSG recently handed Rodgers a new long-term contract, so it's unlikely that their faith in him will waver after one (comparatively) poor season.

You never know, though. Champions League qualification is absolutely vital, especially with the Anfield stadium expansion to pay for, and FSG have already proven - with the ruthless 'termination' of Kenny Dalglish - that sentiment doesn't get in the way of the group's decision-making process.

I want Rodgers to succeed at Liverpool, but right now, he's failing, and it's all self-inflicted. Poor transfers and completely ineffective tactics are sabotaging the club's season, and if Rodgers continues to stubbornly persist with a his failing tactical approach, then he'll only have himself to blame if he ends up on the Anfield scrapheap.

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253 comments:

  1. Where is this poll, I would like to add my EMPHATIC YES!!!!!!!!!!!

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  2. The current downhill of the club is not only because of Rodgers, I'd say Ian Ayre has to take the blame too. Poor transfer activity.

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  3. For a second I thought FSG actually sacked BR. FSG should decide this at the end of the season. After an amazing run last time around, BR at least deserves an entire season.

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  4. I still think he's the right man for us, but might change my mind if jurgen klopp becomes available and brings Marco reus with him! Seriously though, I think he deserves time to build again after losing Suarez. The hangover is there for all to see from last season. Let's get behind the team and see where it takes us. YNWA

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  5. Zvawada Unozviwana6:20 am, November 04, 2014

    Why would he be sacked?

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  6. I said after the Basel game BR won't make it till the end of the season and many attacked me for that. Finally, some sanity is taking place and people realize BR is no good. And losing the title last season is his fault of miss management.


    We need an Italian manager, as they build teams from the goalkeeper up.

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  7. 10 bad games without the players that scored more than 65
    goals and you have the audacity to sack Rogers? I though LFC fans knows their football, but could not even consider the instability of changing a manager.

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  8. With his poor transfer i think FSG will not give him more $ next season. So


    - he had to "sell b4 u buy" situation which mean he will screw up again without budget ! Sack
    - If he keep those rubbish at his hand we are going no where improve Sack!
    - If we cant secure top 4 spot end season ! Sack !
    - With those flop cant fulfill money ball philosophy ! Sack !
    - If he cant convince Stevie G to stay which mean he had to bare the blame ! Sack !


    Honestly i can imagine how pressure he is right now. I guess he already looking at newspaper for vacant hahahahaa

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  9. BR is the right man for the job,if there is anyone to blame its Ian Ayre,

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  10. LOL balo next mgr

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  11. Without BR say yes those flop wont come in ! IA only negotiate the $! Both had to take blame but BR cant escape this.


    BR cant fully utilize his player
    IA buying with sky high price

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  12. Nevergonnacrackthecode7:32 am, November 04, 2014

    Brendan is not the right man for the job.
    We have gone from SAS to Balotelli and Lambert
    and Rodgers has to take responsibility for this
    everyone knew Luis was leaving at January so no excuse to be left with a striker who does not suit the system.

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  13. Klopp with Reus is not really doing that good right now, is he?

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  14. We should not buy anyone for a year now. We need to make use of all these "one for the future" players and see how they do. If they do not perform after having good run of games 'in their preferred position' then they should be sold. Sell 3 or 4 fringe players and buy a starter, repeat.

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  15. But Klopp has already won 2 Bundesligas and made the UCL final with Reus...

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  16. Imo we should all try as much as possible to stick behind Brenda......At least up till January

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  17. Sadly, we cannot sack BR purely on the basis of his transfers. If he manages to finish top 4, mostly with the help of the players who were already there last season then he will stay at the helm for next season as well irrespective of his transfer failure. He is a good coach but has made lot of mistakes this season in terms of tactics. He has four strikers available to him and yet fails to use them appropriately. He will be judged by his man-management skills, tactics and results for the remainder of the season. Forget moaning about transfers, there is no 3 month return policy for signings, so lets just move on with what we have.

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  18. Plastic fans support LFC after all, sack Benitez sack Kenny sack Rodgers, what about to sack Fans? how that sounds? well the way is always free to be City or Chelsea supporter, i bet you will be happy there, all you want is there, money and easy success :)

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  19. BR saying yes only because IA failed to get his priority players – given the nature of BR, I’m sure he would not want to sign Mario.

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  20. And BR also finished second last season, almost winning the title. In case of Klopp, his recent slump doesn't matter but it matters for BR? Why? Granted Klopp has a history of winning titles but even he didn't win the title in his first season at charge, not even second. Also, looking at Bayern, I don't see Klopp will win the league title for couple of years. Klopp won the title when Bayern were not really as strong as they are now and rest of the teams in Bundesliga are not as competitive as in EPL. Liverpool job will be twice as difficult for Klopp. We need to be patient. We will again go through a 'transitional' phase if we hire a new manager. Sometimes I think we are just cursed. We always take one step forward and two step backwards.

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  21. Please explain how losing the title last season is his fault of miss management. Please.

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  22. To start with the period after the transfer window does not count

    Second, BR wanted to bring Alexis and then Falco but Ayre brought Mario at the last minute

    Third, with the number of games LFC will play this season, he could not spend the money on three players and play half of the season with the likes of wisdom, robinson, suso and Ibe – this was his experience in the
    first season. and

    Fourth, get ur expectations right, any team would struggle if
    they lost a top 3 striker.

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  23. One of the many examples would be, the Crystal Palace game subbing Sterling for Coutinho 78th minute.

    The Chelsea game going for the "win" as he should know Mourinho better than we do and seeing the first 15 minutes how they started making us nervous?


    BR biggest miss management is buying Simon Mignolet.

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  24. Mistake is going for the win, but we weren't able or equipped for defending, and you couldn't keep our team defending knowing we are those 3 points away from the dream. Our team was better than their in that match and we were playing home. Yes it was a mistake but every fan wanted us to win it and if Steven's studs were better or whatever the reason was he slipped, we ould have won, or drawn at least.
    Sterling for Coutinho 78th minute, that just seems normal sub?

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  25. Two out of 3 top EPL strikers.

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  26. Yes mistakes are made, we all do make them. Sterling was putting all the pressure at that game. He got subbed and see what happened http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/27184083


    Yes, I don't blame Steve for that slip up, I blame Mignolet. He did not "bailed us out" in any crucial game last season nor this one. The Chelsea game should have been "kick about" and a 0:0 draw. Mourinho is always dirty as such games (first thing that comes to mind is Inter - Barca in the CL).


    Even if we had or still have Suarez we won't win anything with the defensive strategy we got. Offense sells tickets, defense wins titles - we got none of that and I don't see us in top 8 this season. We are going to continue losing games and even if we score we will get outscored because everyone will have a go at us.


    Another miss management - Steven Gerard. We got to the point where we are talking whether he should get a new contract and when he should get it? In the middle of a crisis season...

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  27. one of rodgers main problems is that he doesn't know his best eleven yet. last year he could almost play (to a point) a consistent side. that would be a massive help. i also think he feels some pressure in trying to keep his new, expensive players happy, by rotating so often. therefore it becomes a catch 22 situation, rotation=no consistency. i think that our defensive ineptness is more of a problem than balotelli and his mis-firing boots. tactically he needs to return to what we did best, last season. rodgers proved he can organise a side to an entertaining, game winning unit. there is no reason to think that the new lads won't come good (remember henderson), i am willing to give that time, but brendan needs to become more ruthless. if i was him, i would kick some of the seniors up the a*se and start including the youngsters again.

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  28. we have been going through the 'transitional' phase since 1991.

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  29. Sturridge has missed mire football this season than the whole of last. You can't expect that at the beginning if the season. We missed out on a series of first choice players. How deals get done is not fully Rodgers fault.

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  30. We need a striker. I think we will go foe one in Jan.

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  31. Give him until the end of the season. Top 4 is a must, anything else is a bonus. We must see signs that at least one of his new transfers, whether it be Can, Lallana or Markovic showing monumental improvement. Otherwise the owners would be insane to give him more money.

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  32. I'm not arguing that we immediately bring in Klopp and sack Rodgers. I'm giving Rodgers time. What I'm trying to point out is why Klopp is given more leeway than Rodgers. Of bloody course Klopp's recent slump doesn't matter as much as Rodgers'! Look at what Klopp has achieved and then look at what Rodgers has achieved. It doesn't matter if Klopp didn't win in his second year in charge, the fact is that he's still won 2 Bundesligas, and is currently a lot more proven than Brendan Rodgers. Quite simply, his reputation, at the moment, is bigger. Hence why people can tolerate his slump a little more- because he's more trusted.


    It doesn't help when his employers seem to pay minimum wage, and as a result, he loses his best players to Bayern. Bundesliga may not be as competitive as EPL, but he still guided Dortmund to the UCL final while demolishing the likes of Real Madrid in the process.

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  33. Southampton got a new manager in and lost key players from last season ........... hasn't done them any harm !
    Only time will tell whether Rodgers is BIG enough for our club and can walk the walk rather than talk the talk . Don't let's fool ourselves the owners are in it for the bucks and want to see a good return on their investment - only results through exciting football will guarantee this . How much of a transition period are they prepared to give ?

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  34. But we were all praising him not long a go for doing such a good job at going out and getting the players that Rodger's wanted

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  35. Can’t remember any positive thing for Ayre, even when we
    were doing good last season

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  36. I am not the one for reputation. Yes, they have lost important players (we did too) but his team is struggling since last 18 months despite having a quality squad (better than Liverpool). Moreover, Dortmund has struggled in defence, partly due to injuries but mostly due to their style of play. We have similar problems, Klopp might not be the best solution for Liverpool IMO but he is definitely a major upgrade on BR when it comes to transfer success.

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  37. The problems are not just tactical Jaimie they are rooted in a STUBBORN strait that seems to befall the last three Liverpool Managers.

    When Rafa & Kenny started out they were willing to use FRINGE players who were willing to give their all.
    They then sign a couple really outstanding players , then they start to sign players who are over priced and not that good.
    Rogers has done exactly the same thing.
    He SHOULD NOT have signed Markovic at that price, he STANDS OUT as the worst purchase this summer.
    He offers NO offensive threat, cannot or will not defend, misses easy scoring chances and shows no work ethic which could at least be admired if he ran his heart out.


    The second mistake was to let Agger go and keep Toure.
    Rogers should have got rid of Toure and kept Agger because Lovren has not lived up to his supposed authority at the back.
    Sakho's record if you check is actually better than Lovrens as a defender.


    Rogers buying Ballotelli instead of the more mobile and less expensive Loic Remy.
    Which has been the bigger risk?


    Rogers cannot complain about MONEY or TIME if his contract is terminated at the end of the season for failing to qualify for the CL.
    He's had solid backing and money.


    It could be that Rogers is a great manager and he's still learning his trade.
    The problem is that another Club may benefit from it.
    What happened to Rogers at Reading he learned from and I suspect that Liverpool being the first truly big club he's managed may see another club benefit if he's sacked.

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  38. Agree, the last bit.

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  39. Jaimie not often I ask or do this in fact I've never but please check out this article.

    If you want to know whats really going I think this is pretty close to the truth.

    http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/liverpool-transfer-science-muppet-show-4559695?

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  40. I just hate it when few managers use it as an excuse. There are times when it is legitimate but its so overused nowadays.

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  41. Easier to find players in the Bundesliga than in the EPL where the success rate is fairly low.

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  42. Last season our back 4 was not really consistent. Toure/Agger/Sakho/Flano/Cissoko/Enrique played sporadically. Only Skrtel and Johnson (to a point) was a regular. This season we have upgraded our fullbacks and added Lovren which is not an upgrade to Agger, IMO. So, we have wasted 20mn there. However, with the upgrade of fullbacks, we should have a better defence this season. And IMO we are not doing that bad defensively. The problem lies upfront. Partly due to players but mostly due to BR's inability to realize the best formation/tactics.
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  43. Sick of supporters calling the present moment in time a transition. So losing one player equals transition mode? F*** me dead...

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  44. So, shouldn't BR realize this?

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  45. I'll rephrase my last post as obviously Jaimie considered it to have broken site rules ? ?
    Tough times ahead for Rodgers - can't see FSG letting him gamble anymore with their money so no decent replacements in Jan. and if we don't make top 4 it will be hard to attract quality players next season ....... it will be a long haul back !

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  46. You have missed my point.

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  47. BR could have been more disciplined against Chelsea and Palace but that will come with experience. It was his first title run and he outperformed himself. He made few mistakes in the end but that's okay.

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  48. My thought excatly. Losing it after suprisingly being in contention at all can't be regarded as failure...

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  49. I must have missed that poll. I'd like to join the 29% of people who are willing to accept the severity of the situation we were in. I feel strengthened in the fact that I called it right on Benitez, Houllier and Kenny and that the fact that all three of them got to finish their final season only made things worse. We were quick enough to oust Roy after a similar start to the season and he did not have 200 million and three years to build a successful team.

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  50. I don't actually feel a desperate need for striker. I want to see Balotelli partnered with another striker. I would also like to see Borini getting a good run of games. Also, all good strikers in January are expensive.

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  51. I still think he is the man to lead Liverpool, I just think that his inexperience is showing here.



    Last season there were many warning signs but the goals we scored covered them up, but he had the opportunity to rectify that but he didn't. On paper our team looks good but he failed to address a few keys areas such as a keeper, defensive mid and Striker. Quality, not quantity.


    We could have easily gone for a top German keeper, a good defender (Indi?) and a striker instead of what we bought.



    So, although I support him, I feel he definitely messed up with some transfers, who knows they may come good in time, for now there is a lot he needs he needs to work on.


    Starting by playing the system that gave us so much success last season, diamond with 2 up front.


    Drop Johnson and play Manquillo.


    Me personally, I would drop Gerrard and play Can in his position and give him a good run of games, he can be a good player.


    Play Sterling in the top of the diamond.


    And PRESS for goodness sake!

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  52. Sterling, Lambert, Borini. 50TH minute Balo power sub. That is without Daniel, so no need for strikers IMO, Just changes in formation and line ups..

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  53. Reus was injured until last week ..

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  54. We dodged a bullet by not giving him 200 million and 3 years anyway

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  55. Thing is, he didn't mess up with some of his signings. He messed up with almost all of his signings! Let's have a quick look. Borini, tried to sell him in the summer. Allen, supposed to be the pivot of our midfield, hardly that. Assaidi, tried to sell in the summer. Sahin, played out of position, left after six months. Yesil, never broke into first team. Sturridge, fantastic player, poor injury record. Phil Cou - not a starter but good squad player at that price. Teixeira - gets the Suso treatment. Luis Alberto - loaned out after one season. Aspas - dito. Mignolet - not in any way an improvement on Reina. Touré - may not be the world's greatest defender but on a free and experience. Cissokho - panic loan - didn't harm us but didn't help. Sakho - nuff said. Ilori - one for the future yet we keep bringing in defenders. So far, 8 million we could have spent on Lovren the first time around. Victor Moses - unlike many others I don't think he was that bad. He just wasn't any good either. Rickie Lambert - for that money a plan B - I'm still happy about it. Lallana - paid too much, yet probably the one which shows the most promise. Emre Can - plays like a six year old striker. Money wasted. Origi, already being hyped up so much that he can only fail next year. Manquillo - not a bad option for free. Moreno, like him. Balotelli - joke of the year. 25 players at 212 million quid and only Coutinho is a consistent success. The jury is out on Lallana, Lambert, Manquillo and Moreno. Oh, I forgot Markovic but I don't think I need to get into that..

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  56. Can you please predict that we'll win the title? I'm hoping for a dejavu minus the slip.

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  57. The one big transfer he made was Meireles, at ten million at that, and I would take him over any midfielder Rodgers has brought in in those three years.

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  58. Rodgers needs to be ruthless just like the team was last season. So, I'd go one step further. Allen and Henderson shouldn't get a game after such a poor display against Newcastle. I'd have Lucas-Can-Lallana for the Madrid clash. Ahead of them you could have Sterling, Coutinho/Borini, and Balotelli. Switching back to the diamond could also work.


    I'm also pretty tired of Rodgers carrying Gerrard and Lambert. Why is Lambert on the bench for every game? Way to motivate your young 20m signing by picking Lambert on the bench ahead of him. I also cannot understand Lucas' omission from the squad. At this moment, it just seems like there is a seriously questionable decision being made each week, and nothing is going right.

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  59. Haha the difference would be that I really believed we could last year. What frustrates me most about Rodgers and this whole situation is that I just don't get it. I loved the idea of an Irish manager, attacking football, good crop of English players, giving homegrown players a chance. I still do. But what I just can't get my head around is how he can have this footballing ideology and then buy players who go completely against that. How every single transfer does not work out. I just don't get how he can get that wrong every single time. I'm a Liverpool supporter and i have been for over 30 years. Of course I don't want our managers to fail but I can't conclude anything else than that he did. In the transfer market. Every single time he's tried.

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  60. there is an argument that you defend from the front, yes, i agree. i just hope you typed that bit where you stated 'we are not doing that bad defensively', with a straight face. i would hope that is your sense of humour coming through there!?!? if it isn't, i refer to a john w henry quote about smoking something. we are a disgrace at the back. no clean sheets since........yep, that long i can't remember. our defence ( i use that term very loosely) is abysmal beyond words, amateur marking, amateur in everything that try and do. we are a laughing stock.

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  61. What is your point then?

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  62. I agree. I support Rodgers, but this is unequivocal: 215m spent and overall, a poor return on investment. Further, this is BR's 3rd season in charge. You'd think that the pressing and high intensity game could be sustained if two players were missing from the line up. But it doesn't seem so. There is no Suarez-Sturridge bailout this season. BR's stubborn and egotistical traits, as well as the tactical and man management failures so far this season, will soon put him out of a job if he doesn't turn things around.


    Again, I support Rodgers, but the reality is that he is working in a high pressured, fast paced environment. A few bad months of form is just not feasible. Here's hoping we start to take some forward steps again.

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  63. Ian Arye doesn't pick the team or the tactics.Rogers has lost the plot,and his own pigheaded attitude that he is right and everyone else wrong doesn't help.

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  64. Well the time to roll the dice is here Pete it seemed even in the transfer window the 4231 was looking a reality.
    It certainly is not working and a brand approach is really what is needed i think this season is his measuring stick.

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  65. You mean that the if a player goes to EPL then his chances of failure will be more than if he goes to Bundesliga? I think good players are good players and should be able to play in any league and this is no excuse for an abysmal transfer record.

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  66. I was speaking relatively. We have upgraded our defence compared to last season. Our attack is more dreadful than defence. I never thought we would see such a boring game (Newcastle and Hull) under BR.

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  67. Well your wrong how many good players from good leagues have failed in England.

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  68. fellaini issue is settled..bleddy fergie association...no sufficient proof? wat the hell was he doing near his face then..

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  69. tonight i hope the team shows character and not just BR saying so.

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  70. The problems that we are currently facing, that's a last thing to worry about for a Liverpool fan. lol

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  71. Categorically he didn't ;-)

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  72. Then all those players are not good enough, simple. Its BR's responsibility to find those players and his success rate is almost zero, atm.

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  73. Ozil Sahin not good players thats just recently.

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  74. Btw, I was referring to Klopp's transfer success compared to BR. Klopp signed Reus, Hummels, Gundogan, Lewandowski...all for very low wages and transfer fees. I am sure these players will do well in EPL as well. BR's signings doesn't even come close.

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  75. Its not like Germanys not churning them out but lets remember too how many of them are floating around Britain on the cheap.

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  76. Ozil had a terrific start and he suddenly lost his form. The start suggests he is certainly good enough for EPL and will come good eventually IMO. Sahin's Liverpool debacle can be argued too. Sahin consistently complained about being played out of position which is nothing new with BR. I can name you infinite number of successful players.

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  77. If we cud prise Simeone from Madrid or offer Conte the role in tandem with the Italian national job I'd replace BR in a heartbeat. He has had a SHEDLOAD of money to spend and he's blown it, looks to have lost the dressing room atm. He has to the end of this season to secure top 4 otherwise FSG will be well within their rights to give him the boot IMO

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  78. BR has apparently reached his tactical ceiling, just like what H Rednapp reached at spurs before they let him go. I have lost all hope that BR is going to rise from the dead and lead Liverpool ever again in any other season, playing last season's football. He constantly ignores players like Can, Suso and subs Mario when he must play him alongside another striker. Only when BR is fired or Mario is bought by another team will BR realise that its his extremely poor tactics and poor team selection (eg persisting with SG as a DM- with all due respect, SG is clueless about how to break up play save for a very few tackles). After BR we need to get a manger who is proven eg Klopp, Hiddink, Simeone who actually know what they are doing tactically and in buying players

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  79. But according to you they will succeed anywhere if they are good Juan Veron Shevchenko Aquilani they were good.

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  80. Look at Mourinho, he ddint need three years of "transition" when he came back to chelski. Why? He knows his stuff!!! There is no substitute for that. You wonder what BR is thinking when you hear him chasing Winston Reid, Lallana (and not Rakitic), not getting Valdes for free (when we dont have a keeper)

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  81. If 15mn is big dough for Reus then BR should be sacked just for spending 20mn on Markovic. The point I am making is that Klopp has a good judgement to spot the talent which BR simply does not irrespective of the league in which both of them operate.

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  82. No mate we do. We need better options than that list.

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  83. And not playing Can, Suso, persisting with SG as a DM. Playing SG appears to me as BR's cover for his poor transfer dealings in that DM dept; look at chelski-matic, mikel, ramirez, willian, citeh-yaya, fernando, fernandinho, milner. Who do we have? SG? Can isnt played that much. Hendo is busy covering up for SG. and who else. Lovren and Skrtel cant cover the keeper well if there is highway in the CDM region supposedly covered by SG

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  84. How many Mourinhos are out there currently? I am not going to discuss BR's transfer. I have criticised it so much that I am just tired now. BR should get this entire season based on his efforts last season. I would like to see if he can deliver and cope with the pressure and takes responsibility of his transfer failures.

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  85. It is not irrespective so you could get these priced players in Britain no you cannot please list them quality of players available to British clubs at those prices over the last 3 seasons.
    Those players were developing a career in Germany we weren't getting them.

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  86. Whats wrong with Ibe and Suso? Answer: BR doenst appreciate/know how good these kids are. Raheem was "revealed" by King Kenny. BR doesnt have the bottle to "reveal" his own starlets

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  87. Borini will be gone in summer if not Jan. Lambert nit getting any younger and Dani's injury record suggests we need more first teamers. Don't p1ss on my chips we will have another Jan like Rodgers first.

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  88. Shevchenko like Torres, completely declined as a footballer since he joined Chelsea and even post Chelsea (at Milan), if you check his stats post Chelsea, you would agree. Aquilani wasn't miserable at Liverpool, was he? He was a decent player throughout his career, not a great player though.

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  89. You said regardless now your making excuses for them all no no no.

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  90. Why do BR needs to sign British players at first place? Even he can sign potential stars like Reus, Hummels, Lewandowski, etc from any league...why is he limited to EPL or British? Lo!

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  91. I was saying Shevchenko was in decline anyway, whether it was Chelsea or Milan after that.

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  92. Simeone is the one I would like. He will sort out our defence completely.

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  93. Name one striker you would have in January?

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  94. Didnt say he could not but the reason they were cheap was because they were unproven bar Reus and please if you think we could have got them back when they moved prove it.
    By telling me who was the last 5 German players to debut for his country at full international level whilst playing in England

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  95. Especially after finishing second. BR's first season in charge was transitional and anything after that should be success or failure.

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  96. Enemyofeverydisbeliever11:42 am, November 04, 2014

    Rodgers should definitely get sacked, we all know why but the thing is should the club sack him now or in the summer? If we sack him now, a new manager will come and probably wont do much either with this messed up team, but he surely should set up a much better defending system, attacking wise I dont think he could do better unless a world class striker comes in january. Its obvious we will have a dogshit season regardless, so leave rodgers there and soon as the season is finished sack him and start a new era.

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  97. I do not think we have a bad squad, in fact I think we have a very good squad, the problem is BR is sticking to a formation and tactics which are not working and he seems incapable of changing.

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  98. Enemyofeverydisbeliever11:51 am, November 04, 2014

    Name one world class player in this very good squad of yours?

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  99. Iago Aspas.. Just scored a hat trick and then back on the bench again.. He comes at premium disposal.

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  100. The best player leaving and 9 players coming is transition. Not saying it shouldn't had been done better, but still is transition.

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  101. Every transfer window Ayre gets lambasted for LFC not paying enough and not getting their transfer targets. Yet over the summer we got the deals done early and most of the players we identified were bought.
    Blaming Ayre for everything is lazy and naive....

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  102. Apparently Reus and Klopp no longer see eye to eye anymore. So they may want nothing to with one another after BVB.

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  103. I think Rodgers far too predictable in games and is tactically inept in the european games as well as defensively and it shows clearly. He has questionable transfer record which is even worse than tottenhams. That we let in 50 odd goals last year covered up what was clearly a rubbish team and its shows painfully this year

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  104. who you gonna replace him with?

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  105. Daniel Sturridge

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  106. Tevez may not be a realistic target ! Let forget play a striker while stur15 is out ! Let play false 9 at moment

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  107. No, we don't have players to play that style. I hate when fans compare BR's style of play to Barca or Spain.

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  108. He doesn't need to be sacked. He just need to be told to play with two strikers again...

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  109. Yeah so would I but I think he is happy. I would have had Bony in the summer but that ship might have sailed. There have been plenty of names mentioned T one point or another. Firminio etc. We need someone so something has to be done. Goalie too.

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  110. Yes he did it well last season.Full stop.Forget it been past! This season? Let not forget AVB been sack more or less same problem BR facing now

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  111. Do Villa have a better squad then us, do West Ham, Do Newcastle?


    Do Everton and Hull have better squads then us?

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  112. I don't think there are many (proven strikers) available in January as I am finding it hard to suggest even one. Firminio is not a striker.

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  113. Its the manner in which we are playing that is the worry.


    It is the fact that BR keeps playing the same formation with Balo upfront on his own when it is clearly not working that is the worry.


    It is the worry that our defence is worse then last season which is saying something considering he has brought in 3 new defenders

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  114. Alexis and Falcao were not realistic targets. Neither player wanted to play us so why go on about them?

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  115. Of course sacking Rodgers is the wrong idea, I mean we always knew a major part of last season's unexpected success was the SAS partnership, and as a club that has a recent history of riding on the coattails of one or two outstanding players, Owen, Torres, Gerrard back in his heyday, for example, compensating for the sale of Suarez and Studge's injuries would always have been a tall ask. New players need time to bed in, and it's hard to do when the team isn't playing that well. My primary concern with Rodgers is his seeming tactical inflexibility. Apart from the usual adjusting to the pace of the perm for new players, it is debateable whether or not the system is getting the best out of the current players; playing without a recognised defensive midfield, and deploying Balotelli on his own has left the midfield with a soft centre and an attack that lacks coherence and effectiveness. I know it can't be easy and it's alright for us to backseat manage, but could a front 2 get the best out of our enigmatic Italian plus give Lambert and Borini crucial game time, why not try something different if plan A proves ineffective time and again?

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  116. And sort out our defence ......
    ' It's easy to coach a team to defend ' - his quote after the Chelski match last season

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  117. If you forget last season and say we are top 4 if you don't count teams that won't stay there till the end? Playing poorly, but knowing it will dramatically change once Daniel is back. Than what?

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  118. Look rodgers is not gettin any worse than Pardew, as we know pardew beat City and Tottenham and LIverpool (2 away) so we need rodgers tprove what he is got he must beat Real and Chelsea to secure stability in his team

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  119. And we all criticise Abramovic for it too. We can't just ignore last season because it's the only evidence we have of BR's ability. Or really any manager. Take away Klopp's past and he's suddenly a terrible manager. In the case of AVB, he was unproven in the EPL. BR has proved he can handle a club like Liverpool. The problem is that he isn't. He showed last season he's good enough, but this season he is struggling. However, BR hasn't magically changed in 6 months. He's still the same manager he was last January at the start of that awesome run of results.


    To find the problem, we have to determine what he was bad at last season despite the success, and what has changed. I think we can all agree that BR isn't all that great in the transfer market, and that Defense isn't his strength. Those are his flaws. What has changed? Well, #1 is the sudden switch in personnel. I mean, yes Suarez left, but Daniel is also injured, Sterling is playing a slightly different role, Lovren and Moreno are in the back now, Can and Allen are fighting for time, Lallana and Coutinho are fighting for time, and Flanno is injured. When it comes down to it, the only starters who are the same are Hendo, Mignolet, Gerrard, Skrtel, and Sterling. Its a completely different team. They have to re-develop the chemistry and trust formed at the end of last. The understanding that we had last season isn't there. It wasn't just Suarez we lost, but all stability in the squad. That's what I see is the problem, not necessarily BR.

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  120. Sacking BR after 10-15 games is untenable and suicidal ,maybe at the end of the season if we are languishing in 7th place he will get the boot.

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  121. I think the double standards in this case cannot be any more obvious. When we did well, it was all down to Suarez but now suddenly, because we are doing bad it is Rodgers' fault. It is true that we have been rubbish but it is almost as much down to the players as it is to Rodgers and they are not called to get sack. It is not Rodgers' fault that the players are playing like they could not give a damn. Obviously Rodgers has problems with system and selections but players too have a huge role to play.

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  122. I honestly think he should get more than a season. If we sack BR and somehow manager to get a top class manager, he would just have a squad of demoralised and demotivated players and the circle of Tottenham circa 2013-14 would be completed. And then he would implement a new system and want new players and then the cycle goes on again. Sacking Rafa was a mistake and one we should not repeat.

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  123. Who bought the players? There is no double standard. Suarez compensated for the shortcomings of a lot of players. He kept a lot of pressure off our back four and he allowed players like Henderson and Gerrard to be better. Now he's gone and what he brought to the team has not been replaced. The result is there for all to see.

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  124. Problem with BR is his poor transfer,most of all is average joe and only couple of them is good,sturridge and coutinho.

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  125. Who on earth would do better? I think some fans have totally lost all perspective. Look at the struggles of clubs like Newcastle and Spurs in recent years. They have had some horrific runs of bad form that make our current run look bright and positive. The common phrase I seem to hear/read is "let's get so-and-so, he couldn't be any worse". It's so thoroughly wrong. Things could be much, much worse. Even in recent perspective Liverpool are still a better team than under Hodgson, Dalglish and even the last season under Benitez. In fact since Rafa's last successful season Liverpool have, as a club, probably only had one good period of 5 months under Kenny and otherwise our best football has been under Rodgers. In my view the best football we've played in 20 years.


    I'm not under any illusion that Liverpool are playing well at the moment or that they are a "good" football side. But quite obviously making it in the top tier of football is difficult and there will be times when it won't look so good. Rather than just have a tantrum and demand that things be better, that we blame the manager, sack him and then magically find someone else, maybe we can all take a deep breath and, frankly, just suck it up. Man up. This is football, get over it. We're not in the bottom half of the table, we're in the god damned champions league, we still have good players and we have a manager who has shown at least the first time around that he knows how to get things right. It would take a prolonged period of this kind of poor form before the club owners will seriously consider moving on Rodgers. I'm right there with them.

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  126. But, the players have to share the responsibility. It is not like Rodgers goes out and tells the players to be rubbish. You attribute the success of an entire team to a player but a failure to a manager. So, basically what you are saying is that Liverpool did well in spite of Rodgers and not because of him but now that we are doing bad, it is Rodgers' fault. The manager is the man who makes the team bad and has to be compensated by an extraordinary talent or so it seems.

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  127. I think the best striker in the world needs to be considered under a different set of standards. The notion that losing him and not having Sturridge on the pitch is something that the manager should magically account for is a bit naive. Our current form is the reality of the situation - we've lost half of the goals from last year and there are maybe only a handful of players in the world who could have helped with that.

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  128. Its hard to stomach the support at this club nowadays. The club is famed for its knowledgeable, patient fanbase but a large proportion are just gloryhunters nowadays. Sing when your winning and all that. Nobody can be happy with Rodgers performance this season but if the same people that were cheering him on at the end of last season are now calling for him to be sacked then they arent worthy of supporting the club.

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  129. That was the easy bit now we only have the building, strengthening and testing phases to go before we reach the performing stage :-)

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  130. Nevergonnacrackthecode2:04 pm, November 04, 2014

    Team to play:
    ...................................balotelli............borini
    ................................................markovic
    ...............................lallana.........................henderson
    ..................................................can
    .............................moreno.......lovren.......skrtel.....manquillo
    ......................................................mignolet

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  131. Messias Moises Lumingo2:06 pm, November 04, 2014

    Where is this Poll, I'd like to add my EMPHATIC YES!!!!! Also.


    There are 2 reasons why BR should be fired:
    1. BR's is a hit and Miss when it comes to buying players, here is an interesting fact, out of all the players BR's bought the cheapest players have done better than the over priced players, namely Coutinho and DS are the only successful purchases up until now. Sterling was Rafa's project so he does not count. He does not have the eye for talented but cheap players, just look at the Chelsea and Soton, if you don't believe. At this rate we will be back in the RED/debt and outside of the CL for another half a decade.


    2. Poor decision making in regards selling/buying, tactics which costed us the title, and a lack of Plab B (we all need a Plan B in life) BR is so bad at making decisions that he plays Balo upfront on his own, at HOME!!!! When we supposed to be offensive. KK paid the price for using such tactics. BR does not reward good performance, players who play well, find themselves on the bench in the following match i.e Lucas, Borini, Lallana.


    In conclusions, he is so poor, i'm starting to wonder how he got so far in the football hierarchy. There is a lesson to be learned from his experience for Watford and Reading. May the football gods have mercy on him for this travesty.

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  132. Nevergonnacrackthecode2:07 pm, November 04, 2014

    if we played agger last 4 games rather tehn sakho
    i am convinced we would be pl champs

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  133. Funny how you don't get replies, and there are those who disagree. Spot on mate...

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  134. You do realize YES means keeping Rodgers, don't you?

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  135. And there people say that Liverpool fans know about football all the time, when in reality they know nothing, whether you like it or not losing a player of Suarez ability is goin to have an effect on any time, you take messi from barca or ronaldo from real Madrid there team will struggle, when sturridge comes back into the team him a d balotelli will work well together and I guarantee it will turn round

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  136. Nevergonnacrackthecode2:15 pm, November 04, 2014

    We need a foreign manager
    British manager like david moyes,brendan rodgers, and roy hodgson are not cut out for the highest level ,

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  137. Even Agger admitted that his body could no longer cope with playing in the top leagues.

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  138. Nevergonnacrackthecode2:16 pm, November 04, 2014

    yeah but if he played vs chelsea
    gerrard would not have slipped as agger goes out with the ball unlike sakho who recklessly passes it

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  139. What about our defence?


    Also everybody know Sturridge is injury prone so its the managers responsibility to make we have cover.

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  140. if our only goal is top 4 than with Origi, we don't

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  141. Nevergonnacrackthecode2:19 pm, November 04, 2014

    as ghost rider said
    we all knew stuzza is great but injury prone


    what harm would it have been keeping ibe and spending 40 m on a top striker
    like martinez or higuain

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  142. Come on mate.. it wouldn't of made any difference.

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  143. Peter from Perth WA2:20 pm, November 04, 2014

    And if some people on this site did not join the chorus of anti LFC so-called football pundits and media wannabees to undermine Suarez and the Liverpool team then undoubtedly we would not be struggling now.

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  144. Nevergonnacrackthecode2:22 pm, November 04, 2014

    if agger played
    like we all wanted apart from logan


    agger would have done someting different to sakho


    i blamed sakho for us losing the title not gerrard as his pass was too powerful and his movement with his leg creates uncertainty

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  145. Nevergonnacrackthecode2:23 pm, November 04, 2014

    King of colgate

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  146. Its bloody daft to blame IAN AYRE - he is carrying out instructions - BE PATIENT - B R WILL SORT IT

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  147. Nevergonnacrackthecode2:25 pm, November 04, 2014

    BR has had enough time
    he inherited a strike force of suarez and has left us with Botticelli and lambert up front

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  148. Nevergonnacrackthecode2:26 pm, November 04, 2014

    Rafael Benitez

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  149. Nevergonnacrackthecode2:27 pm, November 04, 2014

    Guillem Balague ✔ @GuillemBalagueFollow
    No Gerrard, Balotelli, Johnson or Sterling. Can Liverpool do that? Is it best to rotate at the Bernabeu? Asked 4 coaches. Mixed opinions
    1:55 PM - 4 Nov 2014

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  150. Agree with ya 100%

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  151. spend 251m++ for dramatically change? and all hope depending on 1 player? i not expect that $ can buy title but at least a solid team than now

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  152. We had arguably one of the best strike partnerships in Europe last season with Suarez and Sturridge. We have been without them for basically the entire season so far. Of course we are going to struggle some what.
    I'm sure Brendan didn't look at Balotelli and say "I hope this guy flops." He obviously thought he would score more than he has. That said, some players can take time to settle, give him a break. It doesn't help that the players behind him haven't exactly been lighting up the world.
    Lambert was never a replacement, he will always be back up and that's exactly why he was brought in. -

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  153. Please explain what offensive threat Markovic poses?

    Have you actually looked at his stats since he's been at Liverpool?

    He is actually the worst player statistically we've bought in the Summer.

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  154. What? That is the worst logic ever.

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  155. "his movement with his leg creates uncertainty" What does that mean?

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  156. I actually have no idea who would be a realistic replacement. A lot of people keep mentioning Klopp. Whilst he did well a Dortmund, they are now falling apart after losing their best players, leading me to believe that it was those players keeping their title hopes alive, and not necessarily Klopp.
    I don't know of any other 'World Class' managers that would come to Liverpool right now.

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  157. Nevergonnacrackthecode2:48 pm, November 04, 2014

    rafa benitez mate
    mourinho revitalized chelsea rafa can do the same here

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  158. You like the style of football we are playing then ?

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  159. And two of them went to Man United. Who finished 7th in the league last year but have a manager who can convince big players to sign for him.

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  160. That is what I'm saying indeed. Of course Rodgers doesn't tell his players to be rubbish but he does buy them and play them. He is the one who consistently brings in players who underperform. At the cost of over 200 million now.

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  161. ???? I meant to say that team team is not going to happen in a million years..

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  162. Nevergonnacrackthecode2:53 pm, November 04, 2014

    why?
    br bought lallana,markovic,can,manquillo ,moreno and lovren to be stalwarts in the lfc side for years


    maybe origi up front instead of borini

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  163. No. The amount of crap signings he made is probably far worse than what Rodgers has done.
    Granted, I liked him. But he lost it, and has done nothing really note worthy since leaving. Ok he won the Europa League, but it would've probably been harder to lose it.
    I hate to say it but Mourinho is another level.

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  164. You have to crack it.. That is the challenge

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  165. this is the biggest BS i've ever read ...

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  166. Nevergonnacrackthecode2:57 pm, November 04, 2014

    Rafa had no money he had to shop in the bargain bin we were skint we we're buying players like voronin cause we had no money




    rodgers has spent more then chelsea and city in last 2 seasons


    not a fair comparison

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  167. Nevergonnacrackthecode2:58 pm, November 04, 2014

    his style can putt players off their game
    look at how beautifully lovren passes the ball compared to sakho

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  168. origi is at lille ... you must be joking

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  169. Meaning Brendan Rodgers is not going to play Manquillo, Markovic or Borini from past history and will stick with his classic one up top.

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  170. look at how low brandon has come:
    the same team, only one player is missing while he got lots of money to spend and what we got ? poor team, poor performance, no pace, no creativity, wrong judgment, wrong tactics, wrong players (especially henderson and allen which are average at best) and basically we went back 3-4 years and for the 4th time we failed to go to the next level :
    1. the frenchman (around 2001)
    2. Benitez (after we ame second)
    3. Dalglish (after Torres)
    4. Rodgers


    very very poor performance while sticking with his mindset which isn't working!

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  171. Nevergonnacrackthecode2:59 pm, November 04, 2014

    agger is more braver with the ball then sakho and i am sure he would not ahve passed it to gerrard


    so situation would have been avoided

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  172. Nevergonnacrackthecode3:00 pm, November 04, 2014

    i am talking in terms of his team for next 3 seasons
    all these players must be seen as first teamers

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  173. Nevergonnacrackthecode3:01 pm, November 04, 2014

    balague tweeted that johnson,sterling,balotelli and gerrard are not going to play


    so amnquillo could make an appearance

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  174. so why are you always excluding sterling?

    and why are you posting a completely new and different lineup, rodgers has to stick to for the next few years every day

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  175. Nevergonnacrackthecode3:03 pm, November 04, 2014

    sterling will most likely be at real or city
    thats why i think we bought markovic


    sterling still has not signed a new contract i dont see him here next year

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  176. One player is missing? Err there where TWO out and out goal scorers last year who both are missing. You take the the two stop scorers out of any team and they will struggle.


    Henderson was excellent was year and has been one of the better players this campaign (albeit poor in last game).

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  177. That fact that you say "the Frenchman" completely nulls this comment.

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  178. where is sturridge?

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  179. Totally agree, Sturridge and Balotelli up front with Sterling in behind. Midfield of Gerrard, Hendson , Lallana. That group will get goals and win games.

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  180. There are still players out there who don't cost a lot of money who are still decent players.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1221975/Rafa-Benitezs-229m-spending-spree-The-76-players-signed-Liverpool-managers-reign.html

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  181. Suarez: BR I want to go to Ba-tha-lona

    BR: *dreamy eyed* Meeee too......... I mean errrr....... I'll speak to the board.

    Suarez: :-0

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  182. never gonnacrackthecode3:19 pm, November 04, 2014

    Sturridge is gonna be on the treatment table like always

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  183. Probably because a large proportion of fans are realists and not sheep ...... I had my doubts about BR from the outset due to his lack of experience and the big leap at the time in his career to a big club like Liverpool . I was prepared to give him time and gave him a lot of credit for the attacking style of football last season which got the results .. However I think we all got carried away as the goals kept on coming and we ignored the fact that we were hemmorhaging them the other end . That situation could never be allowed to continue and that was not rectified last season and still continues today . Rodgers was appointed for his coaching ability and has had the money so the big question is WHY haven't things improved after all this time ? As an example , so far this season with a new manager ,virtually new team ,and much lesser spend Southampton has conceded 5 goals to our 13 .....
    1 more than Hull ! He also knew that Luis was off and had plenty of time to get a suitable QUALITY replacement in to partner Studge ..
    Lambert and the punt on Balotelli were never going to cut it !
    It would be madness to sack him mid season but by the same token it would be madness to bury our heads in the sand and carry on regardless . Serious questions are being asked and IMO he has until the end of the season to come up with the answers ......

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  184. No Gerrard: Lucas does what Gerrard does more efficently in front of the back four.
    No Johnson: Got the roasting from Ronaldo during the last match and would get the roasting again.
    No Balotelli: He'd be played up front on his own anyway so would be a rendered null and void.
    No Sterling: In a 4-2-3-1 Sterling spends all his time at right back and as he isn't really a ball player, its no big loss. Being a wide man in our current set up means playing as a second full back. We have many players who can do that.

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  185. Nevergonnacrackthecode3:28 pm, November 04, 2014

    if its true i hope we play this team:
    .....................................lambert
    lallana...........................coutinho...............markovic
    ................................can..............henderson
    moreno...................lovren...............skrtel.....manquillo
    ..........................................mignolet


    i want all new signings to play

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  186. Nevergonnacrackthecode3:34 pm, November 04, 2014

    ON TREATMENT TABLE

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  187. I think it would be unwise to go Philosophy for Philosophy or fight fire with fire against the masters!

    We have to be able to turn the Real Madrid back four and get them facing their own goal. We need to play pace alongside Lambert. If we try and play pretty footy in front of them we've had it.

    I would go 4-4-2 or 3-5-2 just to give them something different to think about. Real face 4-2-3-1 every weak and annihilate it. We have to be forward thinking.

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  188. I do however think Henderson and Can could be a monster of a partnership in the middle of the park

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  189. apart from logan...haha

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  190. agree to the first part not so sure about the second

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  191. BR can still turnaround guys. He just needs to realize his most effective formation and starting eleven, that's it.

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  192. Nevergonnacrackthecode3:53 pm, November 04, 2014

    Watched suarez highlights vs celta vigo
    he looked really poor
    suarez is not a winger he struggled to score when rodgers put him there for a peroid still got assists


    plus if you gonna play him on the wing it has to be the left where he can cut inside ,


    but meesi gets priority up front , neymar on the left


    i would be working on a deal to bring him back in next two seasons because the way abrca are deploying him he wont be successful its like argentina flocking augero out wide he never looks the same as he does for city

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  193. Nevergonnacrackthecode3:55 pm, November 04, 2014

    also stop c ronaldo scoring
    i want messi to break rauls goal record

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  194. On two players, one of them left, another injured. 3 midfield newcomers injured alongside another one midfiellder who was supposed to be our solid back up. Leaving Steven to play each minute of every important game,

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  195. Why not sack the transfer committee/replace them as well, their recommendations haven't been up to par.


    But I think unless, someone like Pep Guardiola or Jurgen Klopp are willing to come, BR should still keep his job. These two managers have a similar philosophy, so they won't have a drastic change in playing style to implement on the current team, thus having less teething problems at the early stages of management.

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  196. I would never have Suarez back at Liverpool. He is a cry baby and never wanted to be at Liverpool at first place. Like Gerrard said, Suarez engineered his move out of Liverpool through its third bite. He was worldclass as a footballer but a really bad professional. He left when Liverpool was actually on the up and willing to strengthen. Torres on the other side left because our club was in the decline and he saw several key players leaving the club. I have more respect for Torres than Suarez. Even though Suarez had an amazing third season for us, I still like Torres tenure at Liverpool more. His partnership with Gerrard was simply beautiful. Torres' transfer to Chelsea was the only time I ever had a thought of discontinuing my loyalty towards Liverpool. It was the most heartbreaking moment for me as a Liverpool fan as he was my hero and I actually feel sad for his demise as a footballer. Since then I have had no emotions for any transfers.

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  197. “A few years ago we played with Real Madrid at Old Trafford and Cristiano Ronaldo was playing back at his old home, and it was really emotional for him,” Alonso told Liverpool’s website. “I guess that if I had to do the same, it would be very emotional. Hopefully it will happen.”
    .
    Why did we ever sell him?

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