30 Nov 2014

Next Stop LFC? After summer fail, BR plans new bid for 'powerful' £15m Barca star. £140k a week too much?

Over the summer, Liverpool were heavily linked with a move for £15m-rated Barcelona midfielder Alex Song, and many fans - myself included - were disappointed when Brendan Rodgers failed to pursue the deal. Song is having a fine season for West Ham, and according to reports today, the Reds have are planning to correct this particular oversight during the January transfer window.

In August, Spanish newspaper Marca claimed that Liverpool wanted to sign Song, and today, the Daily Mail claims:

"West Ham midfielder Alex Song, who is on loan from Barcelona for the season, will be a target for both Manchester City and Liverpool next summer".

When asked about his future last week, Song - who reportedly earns £140k a week at West Ham - told reporters:

"For now I don't know what's happening [about my future] other than that I just want to play, help the club and then we'll see at the end of the season."

Song-to-Barcelona always seemed like a strange move to me; the Cameroon international is clearly more suited to the Premier League style of play, and with Barca's huge array of top quality players, Song's chances of attaining a regular, long-term starting role at the club seem slim.

Lucas Leiva is on the outs at Liverpool, which means there could soon be an opening in Liverpool's squad for a defensive midfielder, and Song is clearly a good option to consider. Anfield legend Jamie Carragher certainly seems to think so, and in a recent column for the Daily Mail, he enthused:

"Big, powerful and versatile, Song has only made seven appearances this season and would definitely give an edge to a midfield in this country. He was suited to the physical side of the game when he was here with Arsenal".

I still can't understand why Rodgers didn't snap him up during the summer. Song is exactly the type of midfielder needed in the squad, and he probably would've hit the ground running at Anfield and made an immediate impact (just as he has at West Ham)

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139 comments:

  1. Nevergonnacrackthecode5:05 pm, November 30, 2014

    if gerrard leaves which i hope he dont because he is a legend


    liverpool should consider :


    song
    schniederlin
    bedner

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  2. I didnt overly rate or want him after his time at Barcelona but he is proving doubters wrong with solid displays for the Hammers. Given our transfer record and his lack of playing time in the last number of years I wouldnt be paying more than 8 or 9 million for him though. 15 million is too much for a player who still has much to prove in the Premier League again.


    Saying that I'm not sure BR deserves more money considering his inability to integrate any of our new signings to date. They are being scapegoated as poor purchases in the media but realistically none have been given a fair run in the league. Markovic, Lallana and Can especially. Markovic especially smells of poor man management. The worse the team is playing seemingly gives him a lesser chance of game time. Doesnt make sense. He will never adjust to the Premier League being left out of match day squads.

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  3. and he wasnt signing balo or loaning out carroll.....pinch salt of take rodgers with a ....know make a sentance

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  4. i dont care if a player is a legend or an acadamey player all players need to earn there place

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  5. Rodgers must have been like that as a youngster also.

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  6. Nevergonnacrackthecode5:11 pm, November 30, 2014

    west ham are doing fantastically well
    we should set up like them by next season:


    ...........................................Bony/Valencia..........Origi/Sakho
    ..............................................................Sterling/Downing
    ................................Lallana/Amalfatanio ................Henderson/Noble
    ...............................................................Song
    ....Moreno/Creswell........Lovren/Tomkins.....sakho.....wisdom/Jenkinson
    ................................................Mignolet/ adrian






    can/kouyate, balotelli/zarate, sturridge/carroll (both are never fit)
    want clyne at right back as well if wisdom aint good enough
    ,


    looks good to me

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  7. i never thought id see the day where we would aspire to emulate one of big sams teams

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  8. He earned his place in the team, not in the starting line up. People are going to extremes regarding him- they either say that he is supposed to play as much as he wants which is ridicilous or that he should leave which is betrayal. Of football in general, not just him.

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  9. thexcuriousxwanderer5:21 pm, November 30, 2014

    If he openly said that we need to reinforce in January every player wold be twice their cost.

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  10. for me its time to let Gerrard go ....hes holding the teams development back its not knee jerk its how liverpool used to do it ....they used to release players a couple of seasons before they faded ...case,hughes,Clemence to name a few

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  11. Gilstrap. I think you need to improve upon your English language and spelling. As for your comments BR never made any such statements concerning the two named players.

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  12. Lets just use Lucas properly he is a solid DM but we really need a striker in Jan to score some freaking goals and a Goalie

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  13. thats to obvious i think we need some more right backs

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  14. Flanno and Manqui are food enough I think

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  15. He is so much... everything more than those players ... 17 Years and he was 70 percent of every trophy(and there are not too many) we won. He is why Torres and Suarez stayed an extra year, he is Scousse, he is captain, he is the reason Liverpool are still big club.. Handle with care, don't let him hold our club a hostage, but by all means keep till retirement.

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  16. i was being sarcastic........sorry

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  17. and whole new team:p

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  18. When is Balotelli coming back?

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  19. I'm willing to go out on a limb here and say that NGCTC may in fact be a lone wolf with this idea. Won't be too long before he'll start suggesting we replace Rodgers with big Sam.

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  20. well he did say he wont sign balotelli and that he wont be loaning carroll out and went back on both those things...

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  21. Rodgers a clueless manager, good coach. after what another clueless manager, good coach did, AVB with spurs he did not learn. when losing a world class player whether it be Suarez or Bale or Van Persie and Thierry Henry in Arsenal case, you dont sign average players to fill the void. you must sign World class players. Ok we didnt get Sanchez, who is just out of this world, but so what, onto the next one. Pedro, pay £40M, cant get him, try for Hulk, cant get him try for Cavani, cant get him try for Vidal £45M. there was players who are class. even marchisio and insigne, and hamsik. class players, marchisio and vidal are top players who could improve us massively

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  22. This all day long.


    We all knew Saurez was going months before he went. BR had ample time to go out and find a top class player or 2 to replace him.


    He should of at least had 4 - 5 targets in mind and started negotiations before the start of the World Cup.

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  23. the only thing i can think of when his name came on the table is how he elbowed an other player in the back during the WC because he made him look like a fool.

    I'm not going to talk about how cameroon threatened to not play during the very same WC if they did not get their bonus.
    Maybe he was good at Arsenal but i'd rather look for someone else, especially for 140k/w.

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  24. BR does not go out to find top class players the scouts and transfer committee do.


    BR does not engage in negotiations for players.


    I say this because in your post you mention only BR in the singular.

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  25. This transfer committee thing really confuses me. Why would you have complete unknowns handling the business of the club when the manager is the one who has to utilize them. This is exactly like the money ball movie where the manager has no say in transfers and has to use the players given to him. Except moneyball does not work in real life.

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  26. I agree. I think this is the first time in long our team does not have a world class pedigree in it. We had Suarez and before that Torres, gerrard Alonso and mascherano. There is no layer in our team who has any relations or any prominence on the world stage.

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  27. He said Carrol would not go without a replacement. Did say we wouldn't sign Balo and also said Mignolet was not a replacement for Reina but wanted them both to compete. Look these things up before disputing them.

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  28. True that. A player of his quality deserves to be in our team but perhaps not always starting and almost certainly not ninety minutes every game.

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  29. Exactly, yet we spent £20M on him to warm the bench and be on a descent salary!!!!!!!!

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  30. Same emulated ours. We should just be swapping names from last season to whatever fantasy stuff( I don't read his posts) never is suggesting.

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  31. Name the last world class player Liverpool signed? This rubbish gets trotted out all the time. We have never signed a world class player, we CREATE world class players. This goes way back though out our history. Time for people to accept this reality.

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  32. Some weirdos have already suggested it. Manager who dished up terrible football and barely hung on to his job when fans wanted him our to replace.....well you get the idea.

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  33. Unknown to us but rated in football. Maybe they shouldn't be but they are well thought of. Some recommended by David Dean.

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  34. Amazing great Loyal captain Marvel S Gerrard(34) has been 5 years past his best, he should have been used off the bench for the last two seasons. And he is not a DM, L Leiva(27) and S Gerrard(34) do not have the energy, legs, mobility, pace or speed to protect the back 4 and team in the premiership week in week out.


    Romero(27) is not a commanding GK like A Begovic(27) Of Stoke, Begovic(27) should be brought to the club for £10-£14M


    Manquillo(20) and Flannagan(21) can compete for the right back position for the next 3-6 seasons. We should not be going to southampton FC for anymore for players, i wanted us to get clyne(23) before the summer but we did not. So we should not go for him now.


    Sturridge(25) is injury prone and we cannot rely on him to be fit all season, we have to expect him to be out for 2 months per season due to his injury record.


    So more attackers with class, creativity, mobility, pace, speed and goals in their locker should be brought to club and when Balotelli(24) is surrounded by class, quality, mobile pacey attackers ahead and either side of him he will shine.


    Pedro(27) Of Barcelona needs to be brought to club for £22-£27M in January


    K Bellarabi(24) Of Bayer Leverkusen needs to be brought to club for £11-£15M in January


    Whilst a class creative box to box goal scoring midfielder is desperately needed: Y Cabaye(28) Of PSG needs to be brought for £14-£17M

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  35. But Rodgers agreed to the players that have been signed whereas he could have kept the likes of Ibe and Teixeira and even Ilori instead of deciding they needed to be loaned out. Wisdom surely could have been kept instead of signing Manquillo and Martin Kelly has been excellent at Palace and is looking super healthy. Are you telling me Rodgers had nothing to do with the signings of Lovren, lambert and Lallana?

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  36. Two of the members that are part of the committee (Barry Hunter & Dave Fallows) came from Man City who would have help them aquire the likes of Silva, Aguero and many others that are still playing for City now.

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  37. Or maybe if Rodgers had just stuck the the pressing system that served us so well last season instead of going back to the system of slow build up play and possesion football that has got us into this mess.


    The squad we have now is far better than the one Rodgers had when he took the job and there is no reason why we should be where we are right now.


    We all saw a instant change in the second half vs Stoke when we pressed high compared to the first half with slow build up play and boring possession football.


    If we had played from the start of the season like we did vs Stoke in the second half then we would be much further up the table. I think he knows he is in trouble.

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  38. Is it not fair enough, at this stage, to say that everyone is pretty much in the dark as to the exact workings of the committee. It has never been truly explained. There has been bits and pieces from Rodgers and Ayre but to be honest neither of those would be shining lights of honesty.

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  39. It is pretty much like we had with Comolli. The manager will identify the type of players he requires and the scouts etc will go find the players who match the managers requirements. The 'transfer committee is just another glorified name. All clubs have scouts.


    The players that are presented the manager will be studied in depth. The manager will attend matches of the players that have been scouted and then he will decide either yes he wants player A, B & C and players E, F & G are not for him and will work his way through the list. Every player that has been signed since the committee was formed would have had to be ok'd by Rodgers.

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  40. im using an old computer which freezes, especially on this site because of some plug in or another so i have to post before i edit a lot of the time ....but i congratulate you on your position of the spelling nazi

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  41. we are trying For ABC but getting XYZ

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  42. That is not the point. What if Rodgers said yest to A, B & C but players E, F & G who he rejected were better players?

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  43. I think your definitely right in thinking that Rodgers has to signed off on the signings, as for the rest, I'd say that is up for debate. I think it suits Liverpool / Rodgers to leave it vague.

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  44. just for you ill play marbles on the east lancs

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  45. I'd have joined you but as you know I've lost my marbles..

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  46. when the boxing has finished

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  47. if gerrard is playing well then play him , its just that they play him when hes not

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  48. True that. But maybe he wont be signing Anyone because he wont be around anymore. Good thing he didnt sign that pesky Remy either. He would have been far too useful

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  49. Signing Song in the summer was a no-brainer, was baffled why we didn't sign him in the summer

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  50. This subject has already been done to death. West Ham have Song on a season long loan with no call back. He will not be available until the summer which means '..the Reds have are planning to correct this particular oversight during the January transfer window...' is rubbish.

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  51. Because BR is living in dream land

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  52. Never mind Lallana our most expensive signing this season who is sitting on the bench and clearly was not the type of player needed, It baffles me how Emre Can is sitting on the bench.

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  53. Lallana is excatly what we need(when in form) but BR gave up on him too soon.

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  54. True but why did anyone need scouts for them two high wages was more of a factor

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  55. So why did we sign him then when we could have kept Ibe? Lallana was a luxury signing. We could have spent the £25m on a proper striker.

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  56. I think Lallana is very good player but he was not what we needed

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  57. In my opinion his best place is alongside Hendo Between a proper DM(Lukas/Can) and a DM(Gerrard Couts or Sterling, With Two strikers that is lethal. He can pass, score, plays with both legs, is tireless...

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  58. There would still have had to be convincing. Aguero could have cherry picked any club. Fact is that he has won trophies at City.

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  59. Two strikers..

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  60. But he is not starting any matches. Can you not see how £25m has been wasted?

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  61. Lambert and Balotelli is what we should have done with DS injured.

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  62. Yep, Or a combination of Lambert, Balotelli, Borini and even Markovic but for what ever reason BR does not think so.


    Also I still believe that Suso, Teixeira and even Ibe to a certain extend could all be just as good if they were given a chance.


    Like I said, I do rate Lallana but with the players we already have and the fact we needed strengthening in other areas first, that 25mil was a waste

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  63. We did not need Lallana. What is the bet that young Ibe would have had more of an impact if he was not loaned out?


    You would expect your most expensive signing to start every match. If he is not starting then clearly questions need to be asked as to why we paid so much for him to sit on the bench when we needed a proper striker.

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  64. All players we bought are waste of transfer funds. All players on our payrolle are waste of funds. It is actually Brendan who is wasting all. Hope he will change some things, and prove that this team is worthy of CL football, and it certanly is.

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  65. Consider how well he is playing for Derby, a very good impact.


    11 games, 4 goals, not bad for a 18 yr old playing as a Winger

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  66. You are dreaming if you think Rodgers is going to get us to finish top 4. His ego will get the better of him.

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  67. WC and injurie. Than bad results, pressure, Gerrard playing every minute, new teammates also fitting in.. Not only his fault...

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  68. So are bad results a reason to keep him on the bench? If I was the owner of LFC and gave Rodgers £25m to spend on a player to let him sit on the bench and see mid table mediocrity then I will not give him another penny to waste.


    Lallana is turning out like Downing.

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  69. Brendan is to blame. Lallana is a good player. OK?

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  70. I am not saying Lallana is a bad player but will stick to him not being a player we needed.

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  71. I wouldn't go that far lol.. Lallana is a good player who is not being utilized correctly, Downing always was and always will be an average player

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  72. cREative midfielder that can defend very well and can go wide if needed. Plays with both feet and knows how to score. Yes we need that.

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  73. same thing different perspective ,either way we are signing for the most part overpriced very average players

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  74. Rodgers didn't snap him up because he doesn't like well known established players who have proven themselves over time as he may feel that these players may have egos and are not team players. Rodgers prefers 'project' players who he can work on and mould who provide him with a' challenge' ie Balo with his so called 'bad' reputation. Lallana, Lambert and Mignolet coming from a mid table teams never making the step up - never playing for top level teams. Lovern one good season in the prem. Markovic etc. Interesting enough Sturridge and Coutinho came from Chelsea and Inter Milan top level teams so are used to top level pressure and performance.

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  75. People were calling for Tony Pullis last week. Madness

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  76. That has been a problem.

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  77. We're not gonna suddenly become the swashbuckling team of last season overnight after the team's confidence has taken such a battering so first things first, stop the rot and record a win. We did that so now we hopefully have something to build on. 3 points, clean sheet. That for me is positive

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  78. I wonder if all those who have been shouting for Klopp will be a little quieter now he has guided them to the bottom of the Bundesliga.

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  79. I really don't think Rodgers knows what's he's doing when he's doing recruitment business. Does the guy ever have any remote kind of plan when he targets players? How the hell could an EPL manager with coaching badges not see that we needed Song?! He needs to be sued for negligence. He had a duty of care, he breached thtat duty, and now there are identifieable damages as a result.

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  80. That's it. You've hit the nail no the head. Song, he would have been the answer to all our problems. I reckon if we had him we could have been top by now. Seriously, get a grip. The main issue with us at the moment is confidence. Song would have been a good signing yes but the negligence tripe above is pointless drivel.

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  81. How do you know BR agreed, if you have inside information please share it with us, or are you guessing, ??

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  82. Yes every club has scouts, and our 2 senior scouts are on the transfer committee, "conflict of interest probably", pushing for the man they scouted.

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  83. Ayre said, no one man decides what players we buy.

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  84. Rodgers said that he has the final sign off on all players. The committee can be all for a player but if Rodgers says no that it the player won't be signed.

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  85. No wonder we lack ambition.£120m spent in one transfer window.The most Liverpool have ever forked out and some of you don't even demand a superstar.
    The decision makers feed you the same meal.Overpriced potential and your quick to swallow.Your right Liverpool have generally gone after players who we can improve.Over ready made top players.
    That doesn't mean Liverpool a global powerhouse of football shouldn't expect top players with a 100m+ transfer budget.
    What a successful policy you easy to please fans subscribe to.No title in 25 years and we've averaged a title challenge twice a decade.
    The amount we've spent on our squad we should have a few more top quality difference makers.
    For Christ sake Reds.Some of you don't hold Liverpool to the high standards of a big club.
    You've let very poor transfer recruitment drop your expectations levels too low.

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  86. Why not bring a little bit of reality to the situation. We have gone after top players but they don't want to play for us. We are not in the top 3 EPL clubs that players want to join. That's the reality of it. It has been proven over quiet a long time. Unless we are consistently in the Champions League this is the way it is going to be. It has nothing to do with low expectations and more to do with accepting reality.

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  87. He wasn't comparing Markovic with Cristina from a skills/ability point of view, just the situation they are/were in. Crynaldo needed to bulk up because we was getting his hair messed up by the big mean centrebacks, so he hit the gym.
    Now he destroys centrebacks for fun, which I hate seeing as much as you do.

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  88. The reality is we have a fanbase with too many excuse makers.The defeatist attitude of our recruitment team being unsuccessful in bringing in top players, has filtered down to some fans.
    They think we should ditch superstar targets.Even if we can afford a couple.Just go after expensive potential instead because in your reality no top player wants to sign for Liverpool.We should just accept it:-)
    You do realise we don't have to be in the top 3 most desirable EPL clubs for quality players to sign for us.Not every player we target will be wanted or needed by our rivals.
    Liverpool went after Mkhitaryan, Diego Costa and Willian coming off a season where we finished 7th.We lost out to CL teams.
    This summer we had a much better chance to bring quality.We had Champions League football to offer and a massive kitty.Liverpool went after ONE top class player Alexis Sanchez.

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  89. I think you should feel embarrassed. I thought it was so obvious to everyone that I was joking that I didn't need to add in, 'jokes, not serious'. But I'll keep that in mind for the future.

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  90. Lucas was the best player on the pitch against Stoke - Rodgers and others just refuse to accept it. I'm tired of this preconceived notion that Lucas isn't good anymore. It looks like he has finally reached the level he was at a few years back.

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  91. My mind always changes about Lucas, but he was no doubt very good a few years ago, and had me won over.

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  92. Some bloke called Edwards who is supposed to be a recruiting guru think he needs to be looked at too.

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  93. Glen Johnson, going going gone!


    "I have enjoyed the majority of the six years; I've had some good times and some bad times, but if I haven't got a contract then I can't stay," said Johnson.

    "Of course it plays on your mind but that is when you have to be professional and try to do a job for your team, and I respect my team-mates and I want to put in a performance for them.

    "I want to play for a club that wants me - I am not going to go crawling to anybody. The club know where I am and they know the situation.

    "There were minor talks at the end of last season but nothing I could accept or reject."

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  94. Thank you. Spot on. I am glad we share this view and annoyance at Lucas being shafted by fans to justify Stevie G's inclusion as a deep-lying midfielder. Lucas was the best player against Stoke and more than held his own against Real Madrid. I agree that he looks to have reached his level when he won our player of the year prize. But he can't rot on the bench. Rodgers needs to do the right thing and not allow in-form players to rust. It's a disservice to the players and to the club. Frankly I'll be most disappointed if we let Lucas go in January, as the discourse will then be that 'he wasn't good enough anyway' when it is clear that the problem is that he is not a member of the old boys' club.

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  95. Just because the only player that was mentioned in the press was Sanchez doesn't mean he was the only player. I do realise you don't have to be in the top 3 EPL teams to get good players, but I though you were talking about world class players? Pick an argument and stick with it. If you are asking was of summer transfer business looking go at the moment? The answer is no but the fact is we are no a draw for world class players. That's history saying that. Not me. No amount of your posting will change that reality.

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  96. We did need that. When Coutinho was injured near the beginning of last season the team suffered for lack of a creative replacement. It was obvious that we needed another number 10-type player. Sterling is NOT good enough in terms of passing consistency, tactical nous or control in tight midfield spaces to be our number 10 for any extended period of time yet. Anyway we shouldn't be relying on a nineteen-year old as our creative hub. We needed a second established number 10. Rodgers chose Lallana, on the evidence available.

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  97. No embarassment. To spot humour on this site with some of the stuff that's deadly serious can be nigh on impossible.

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  98. BR is a fraudster...Sooner than later he is going to get busted.
    He doesn't have an eye for talent and can't even develop talent ..
    One moment he announces something and the other he refutes it altogether.
    He is not good enough for a club that is targeting a top 4 finish and wants a regular attendance in European competitions.
    He should learn something from Ronald Koeman.
    LFC needs to get rid of this th@g.

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  99. That is the reason we're not in the genuine title hunt since ages !!
    This is a below par and sick mentality.
    We create players?
    What the heck has the club achieved by doing so. Yes players improve over time , get to peak forms ,but to get to the elite and stay there one needs genuine and PROVEN talent. Take for instance any club ruling any top league in Europe and just look at their bench strength. We are doing nothing but day-dreaming considering the bench of average players we have at our disposal and a clueless/tactless/inexperienced manager to train them.
    We had shitload of money and CL to bring genuine stars but we got none. Reason: Sir Brendon is not good enough !!
    LFC must replace BR with a proven manager.

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  100. This is fact. Even when Liverpool were winning leagues and European Cups every year they weren't signing world class players. Understand the history of your club before you go spouting nonsense. Just staying quiet is always a option. Consider it.

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  101. C Ronaldo(29) was destroying defenders with his skill and pace from the start. He just used to over do it with the step overs and have no end product after all the tricks. And then he got on the weights and calmed down the step overs and his end product started to be on point.


    L Markovic(20) was awesome for Benfica, but has struggled to make any impact for us. You cannot compare the two players at all, no comparison.


    No matter how much i hate C Ronaldo(29) we cannot use L Markovic(20) in same sentence as him as if L Markovic(20) is going to be the next ronaldo or something.

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  102. Are these guys working for LFC? Im not seeing the talent they have scouted. Are they the ones who scouted the likes of Aspas?

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  103. Giving lame arguments doesn't prove one knows everything about football and what others say is nonsense.
    Everyone is entitled to one's opinion. And if someone critically refutes what you suggest, that doesn't mean you're a football pundit and others are fool.
    As fan and as a club we must have a progressive attitude. What we (LFC) have done in the past hasn't paid off. It's time to shun those counter-productive policies and imbibe new methodologies that work.
    Else keep on day dreaming and fantasize success from legacy of club.But this won't help club move an inch !!
    I rest my case.

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  104. 4 of em got moved on so its fair to assume they were the ones

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  105. Giving lame arguments doesn't prove one knows everything about football and what others say is nonsense.
    Everyone is entitled to one's opinion. And if someone critically refutes what you suggest, that doesn't mean you're a football pundit and others are fool.
    As fan and as a club we must have a progressive attitude. What we (LFC) have done in the past hasn't paid off. It's time to shun those counter-productive policies and imbibe new methodologies that work.
    Else keep on day dreaming and fantasize success from legacy of club.But this won't help club move an inch !!
    I rest my case.

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  106. Your excuse machine is working.Okay you can add unknown World Class players with Alexis Sanchez, if that makes you happy.I'll stick with what we KNOW Liverpool targeted.
    "Pick a argument and stick with it" My comments have been centred around the lack of World Class players in our squad.
    Do you really need me to say 'World Class' 100 times in two posts to understand where i'm coming from.Stop being pedantic! My overall message is clear and obvious:-7
    Money changes history.Take a look at Man City.We had a mega transfer kitty this summer.We blew it on mediocrity.
    I think this debate is over.It's been a pleasure.

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  107. Indeed it has. It's always interesting to come across people who think as you do. It's very enlighting.

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  108. Guess BR was convinced that Gerrard would be sufficient in the DM role for this season.

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  109. What I feel is, Rodgers is trying to do a Fergie since he joined Pool (He was touted so in many Newspapers when he joined). He seem to have that ambition of being the next Big English manager. He tried to show similar characters like buying some young talent (duds), making a hero of no-one, arrogance etc. etc.


    But reality is clear after last season, he is dumber than Roy Hodgsen.

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  110. Giving lame arguments doesn't prove one knows everything about football and what others say is nonsense.
    Everyone is entitled to one's opinion. And if someone critically refutes what you suggest, that doesn't mean you're a football pundit and others are fool.
    As fan and as a club we must have a progressive attitude. What we (LFC) have done in the past hasn't paid off. It's time to shun those counter-productive policies and imbibe new methodologies that work.
    Else keep on day dreaming and fantasize success from legacy of club.But this won't help club move an inch !!
    I rest my case.

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  111. B Rodgers needs to forget spending £12-£15M on A Song(27) instead he should spend it on C Tiote(28) Of Newcastle or Y M'Villa(24) Of Rubin Kazan( On Loan at Inter Milan) .


    Both players are Better Defensive Midfielders than A Song(27) and offer better protection to defence and team than A Song(27).


    But If B Rodgers wants to make a statement he should spend £18-£21M on Lars Bender(25) Of Bayer Leverkusen instead of any of the 3 DM Above

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  112. L Leiva(27) has come on leaps and bounds since he joined the club and has shown great grit and determination to change his position. The problem is the club have had 4 class quality DM over last decade who were all much better than Lucas and he will never be as good as any of them were at their peak. ( Alonso, Hamman, Mascherano and Sissoko)

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  113. Far out Nick, stop being so serious!!!

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  114. Alex Song? Aresneal reject? Were Arsenal world beaters when they had Song? C'mon people...we don't need Song.

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  115. "Everything more than those players" - are you aware of Emlin Hughes?

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  116. You obviously don't remember how instrumental he was to Arsenal prior to he and Van Persie leaving. He was Arsenals midfield and provided many a brilliant assist to RVP, leading to his transfer to Barca. He has nothing to prove in the Prem, much like Fabregas, (a short period of) time has made it easy for some to forget his quality.

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  117. I'm pretty sure he or she has already done that. Definitely a girl.

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  118. hold up, whats wrong with player D?

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  119. He's not an Arsenal reject. He's a Barca reject. He was cherry picked from Arsenal.

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  120. I think Allen was the best player against Stoke, but I must say I'm surprised and impressed at how sharp Lucas has been over the past two games. Should start against Leicester. Give Allen a rest and put Can in.

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  121. Alex Song isn't a proper defensive midfielder. If we were to sign him, we'd have to have another player alongside him with a strong defensive contribution, like Can or Lucas, if we want to be solid.

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  122. So...twice a reject. His case is getting weaker all the time.

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  123. Seems like Rodgers is finally willing to admit that Gerrard can't hold down that spot on a regular basis. Lucas has done an OK job but I agree that we need to consider adding some more quality in that area. Can will grow into a good player but it's too big a gap to fill and he's still only 20 and learning the game. If Lucas is not going to be a long term option for Liverpool and Rodgers doesn't want to use Allen there then someone else needs to be brought in. I can't say if Song is that player but Rodgers must be thinking about possible players now that Gerrard has finally seen some time on the bench.

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  124. It's odd, isn't it, that we have a Brazilian who can play DM and for some reason he's not fancied. He has all the skills to play the ball forward and make the tackles to break up play. Rodgers at least paid him lip services. Maybe we'll see Lucas have a bit of a run. I must say I don't understand what his supposed deficiency is. If Rodgers works with him and let's him regain his form and confidence I don't see why he can't be a top PL midfielder again.

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  125. Clean sheet, result, end of story.

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  126. I'm not sure if you're seeing it from the same point of view, but neither of us are comparing them in terms of quality, potential, ability or anything like that. Just saying that Marko could really benefit from physical conditioning, like CR did. Heaps of wingers/AMs that used skills to murder the lower divisions seem to find that they are outmuscled at the top levels of the game and need to hit the gym. Raheem does it, Ibe does it, Coutinho should if he isnt already, and all of them can be compared to Cristina in that regard. None of them are as good, and the only one that looks like he may get anywhere near his level is Raheem. No one is saying Marko is like Ronny or that once he gets more physical, that he will be as good, just saying that he needs to do the same thing. Hell I could compare myself to Ronalda, as I've had to do physical conditioning to compete in football, but I'm not saying I'm even 1,000,000th of the football he/she is.

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  127. Not very attacking player will need to bulk up to be awesome within the premiership. Some players need to, but some just have the ability and class to showcase their class wherever they go:


    Silva, Hazard, Oscar, Fabregas, Nasri, Walcott, Ramsey, Montero, Bojan and Di Maria

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  128. The Centre Midfield that should start today against Leceister should be Lucas Can Lallana




    With Sterling and Markovic either side of Lambert supplying him the service to score goals. ( The mobility, pace and speed of those two should keep leceister pegged back)


    And If Markovic(20) cannot shine against De Laet(26) and Koncheskey(33) then he needs help and it will show that B Rodgers wasted £20M for sure. As Markovic(20) should be able to anielate either of these full backs any good winger with class, creativity, mobility , pace and speed will terrorise those two full backs. Markovic(20) has the tools for the job but can he use them is the issue.

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  129. Silva, Hazard and Oscar are on another level and have avoided needing to bulk themselves up by being in top top teams. Fabregas, Di Maria and Nasri went through heaps of physical training and conditioning early on, especially Fab at Arsenal and DM at Real. By the time he got to Chelsea, he had almost every aspect of his game ticked, including physicality. Walcott and Ramsay cant go 2 games in a row without injuring themselves, so one could argue that some physical conditioning would have seriously benefitted, plus neither are in the same category as the above. Montero and Bojan are not proven in the PL. Bojan despite being an amazing prospect at youth levels never hit it large at Barca, Roma, AC or Ajax, and has now scored 1 league goal for Stoke. Bojan's main criticism in his early days was that he isn't quite quick or skillful enough to make it without bulking up. Hell his nickname amongst a large group of cules was CT (cuddly toy) because he was so frail and child-like. If he were to get to a decent physical build, and maintain the skills he already has, THEN he could be a top player.

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