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21 August 2013

Transfer Boost: 'Dominant' £19m Bundesliga star keen to sign for LFC. Pursue...?

In May, Anfield legend Jan Molby urged Liverpool to sign Schalke defender Kyriakos Papadopoulos, and at the time, the Reds were heavily link with a possible transfer. Speculation has died down over the last few months, but Liverpool have reportedly reignited interest in the Greek defender.

According to reports in Germany and England today:

* Liverpool are once again on the Greek defender's trail.

* 'Sources' close to the player claim he is keen to join Liverpool.

* Schalke are willing to speak to LFC to thrash out a deal.

* Brendan Rodgers is a 'huge fan'.

When asked about Liverpool's interest yesterday, Schalke sporting director Horst Heldt told reporters:

"There are a lot of clubs to take into account. Specifically, there is nothing that has arrived, as far as I know. We're going to speak to each other when it takes concrete form".

In a column for the Liverpool Echo in May, Molby insisted that Papadopolous - who has a £19m buyout clause in his contract - 'fits the profile' of the type of player Liverpool 'want to build a team around', and shrugged off worries about the young defender's injury history. he enthused:

"When I’ve seen him [Papadopolous] in Champions League matches, I’ve been impressed. He’s a talented young player with real potential. He is as strong as a bull, dominant in the air and very good in one-on-one situations. He hasn’t played since before Christmas due to a knee problem but I’m sure that he has made a complete recovery".

Soon after, former Monaco CEO Tor-Kristian Karlsen described Kyriakos as 'one of the best center-backs in Europe', and claimed that several Premier League clubs - including LFC - were chasing the youngster. He tweeted:

"Liverpool interest is concrete. Has been on the shortlist/highly rated by many European top clubs (including Chelsea, Man City and Man Utd). Nice transfer coup for Liverpool if they manage to land Papadopoulos.

At the end of May, talkSPORT and ESPN football analyst Rafael Honigstein confirmed Karlsen's contention, and claimed that Papadopoulos was 'close' to an LFC move:

"Liverpool are pretty close to landing Kyriakos Papadopoulos. There’s no fear he will be affected long-term [by the injury]. Schalke have three very good centre-backs, having picked up Felipe Santana from Dortmund for €1m. That makes it easier for Papadopoulos to go."

'Papa' looks like a good player, but he's going to need time to get back up to speed after his injury; adapt to a new country/lifestyle, AND adapt to the Premier League. As such, it's (arguably) a slightly risky proposition, but the risk is somewhat assuaged by the fact Kolo Toure is at the club, which means Papadopolous - or indeed any young centre-back - won't need to be thrust into the team from day one.





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101 comments:

  1. Enter Tottenham Hotspurs..

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  2. Jamie whats happening with willian? you havn't said anything about it?

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  3. Great signing if it happens, really like the look of him.

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  4. We will make an unacceptable bid, then he will sign for someone else.

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  5. mate willian was keen to sign for
    lfc

















    even a rumour of him being wrapped in an lfc blanket when he was
    born by his gran


















    its all rubbish !!

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  6. Joining Spurs, Spurs outbid LFC by around 5m, LFC were asked if they wished to match the offer but they refused and pulled out.

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  7. Off to Spurs then...

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  8. Just F**king buy him, why are LFC f**king about, all the time??????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Sick of this crap!!!!!!!! Come on spurs, Arsenal, Utd u can can get him before us!!!!!

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  9. If we sign him and Arda Turan this window can be considered a success, if we lose out AGAIN, I'll have to get my Ian Ayre dartboard out!!!lol

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  10. One or more of Spurs top management and scouts must be some die-hard fans of this site. Every time we mention any serious involvement with players, they'll act to snatch those deals under LFC's very nose. Something I don't get, why can't LFC keep their mouth shut and get the deals done furtively?

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  11. Think you have the key point there Jamie, now that we have Toure we can bring younger players through at better pace. This might just happen but only if we match their asking price. Might be the boost we need because for all the talk of Willian etc we do have some brilliant attacking players and still more coming up through the ranks ( IBE !) the defence and cover for DM seems more urgent to me

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  12. We are not in serious contention for this player, we have this habit of under bidding for any player we are in for and once another club bids we are automatically out, its why we always lose out to Spurs. The only way we can sign a player is if nobody else wants him and the selling club is eager for the player to leave.

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  13. This transfer has been simmering away all summer?
    Surely it's time for some positive action from the board and therefore positive news for the fans?
    Would they let the Red Sox be muscled out of the market?

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  14. I think its time LFC change Ian Ayre if he can't get BR's 1st choice players to the team then what's the point of him being there.

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  15. Grottenham seem to be buying everyone, who next? Messi and Ronaldo!!!

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  16. Looks great BUT injuries are a BIG CONCERN - We should have sold Coates ages ago. I still cant see how Willian is worth £30 million - Surely the GERMANS must have fantastic players for half the price -

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  17. Spurs wage bill next year will be horrific - they had better get it right or they will be joining Leeds

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  18. This guys had serious injury and been out for ages, so we'll probably offer extra for him, then he can sign for someone else.

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  19. If I could choose a Shalke defender to go for it wouldn't be Papadopolous, it'd be Benedikt Höwedes. But I suppose he'd be too difficult to winkle out.

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  20. Just read that Spurs is leading in the chase for Toby Alderweireld. Reports a week ago suggested Spurs was to hijack LFC's interest in both Toby Alderweireld and Christian Eriksen. Before all this could happen, they got Willian ahead of LFC. Anything wrong here?

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  21. Not if they manage to sell Bale to Real Madrid in a range of a ridiculous 100 mil pounds.

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  22. Apparently Eriksen wants CL and Milan are waiting to see if they qualify before putting in a bid so dosnt sound like he is interested in a move to Anfield

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  23. Spurs are now in for Sakho ,Alderweireld as well, it only a matter of time before they start after Papa too, we have had months to sign one of these CB and now its too late.

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  24. Love the way this lad plays the game pure determenation hes a born winner. I would be very happy if Liverpool signed him please dont let this one get away.

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  25. This guy is already another of our fisherman's tales mate.

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  26. I no longer get the least bit excited when we are in for a supposed marquee signing.

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  27. It really is time to get serious LFC, sign Papadopoulos before hes snapped up by somebody else!

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  28. I can;t help but feel at just 6 foot he's not what we need. We need someone who can actually be truly dominant in the air unlike Agger and Toure like Hyypia or Vidic. We always look vulnerable at set pieces and this guy won't change that

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  29. I have been a full supporter of the Manager but now am ranting..What is going on with us keep missing transfer targets this summer alone??? The only reason BR is not under pressure is because we won the first game. Which I don't care how we did as long as we got that 3 points, we all know we mostly loose those games or draw. Ian Ayre is pretty useless!! I think the same pressure going to Arsene Wenger should be put on BR and Ian Ayre. This is becoming ridiculous, we can't keep hiding behind the GREAT CLUB for long and all the time..Pay the DAMN money!!!

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  30. Hes class in the air and strong as a bull

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  31. He still is excellent at the aerial side of the game as he is aggressive and no-nonsense about putting himself about. Short for a CB but certainly can be very dominant in the air. So I got little worries about him in that regard.

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  32. Please sign someone that can we genuinely pin hopes on improving the first XI considerably in the short term as well as long term. Please!

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  33. isn´t papa someone like this?

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  34. Yep, I think so, so sign him! ;)

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  35. Why do we want Turan for £20-24m when he got 5 goals and 6 assists all last season- Less than Downing?

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  36. We missed out on willian.
    So guys what do you think about dimaria, sanchez or turan.
    Di Maria: cost 25-30m. Massive wage. Great creator, not such a good scorer.
    Sanchez:cost 20-25m. Massive wage. Both good scorer and assist provider. Injury prone.
    Turan: cost 20.5m. Moderate wage. Great creator, poor goal scorer. Die hard lfc fan.
    If i had a choice, it would be either Sanchez or Turan.

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  37. Injuries aside, he sounds like a beast of a defender.

    Slightly off topic, but Willian is not a 30 million pound player and never was. He's a good player, no doubt, but so was Downing a few years ago just not for the 20m we paid. It seems that the biggest disappointment with not signing Willian stems not from our desperation to sign a marquee player but the morale of losing out on yet another target to a different club. Third time this summer it's happened and Spurs have previous as well for beating us to our transfer targets.

    We don't struggle for chance creation, it's putting them away. Maybe we should focus on that i.e a goal scoring attacking midfielder.

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  38. hope so too :) there´s just one worry - he had a big injury ...

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  39. Aquilani..... ;)

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  40. Was a very good defender but has been out a long time with a pretty serious injury. Too much of a risk for me until he has proven his fitness

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  41. So Spurs werent after Willian months ago way before LFC were even mentioned?

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  42. Not sure I blame Ian Ayre for all the missing out. Fair enough he may be a bit of an old woman but its FSG policy he has to follow.

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  43. Said this for along time now. LFC needs to put a team together of past big LFC names

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  44. Take him! He is strong and have technical abilities as well! Kolo Toure (I must admit that he surprised me in a nice way with his form that is much better I was expecting) can play along Agger until Papa learn the Premier League ways..!

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  45. Sure, somebody in north london will take him alright.

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  46. Did they show their urgency in that deal at that time?

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  47. Turan Too slow. Di Maria pipe dream. Maybe stick with Sterling and Ibe if need pace and buy Eriksen if need guile, play with suarez, Sturridge, Aspas up top, 3 from Coutinho, eriksen, Lucas, Gerrard, Henderson, Alberto.....behind. AS said earlier squad looks strong

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  48. They have been getting the wage bill right, especially when compared to us in recent seasons, considering where respective clubs have finished in recent seasons. Add in TV money, getting the likes of Bentley, Gallas, Dempsey, Parker, etc, off the wage bill and potentially Bale. I don't see their wage bill going up by that much.

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  49. BR should sign papa and Yevhen Konoplianka. That will complete the whole team.

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  50. both will cost under 30M and BR will have a fantastic defense and offense.

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  51. Won't happen though, we are penny pinchers and I wouldn't expect us to bid anymore than a combined 20m for both.

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  52. If we didn't move the ball so quick in the final third so quick I wud have said yeah to Turan. At the moment Luis or Borini are our slowest CF's. So want more pace to stretch the play and also to break quickly on the counter. Seen a link to Andriy Yarmolenko, he is a player in the mould of C.Ronaldo.

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  53. Just sign a top player for a change, enough of these low balling antics, it will bring us fans nothing but disappointment.

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  54. AndWithSuchSimplicity5:12 p.m., August 21, 2013

    Can we mention some real turkeys in the hope they try and buy them???

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  55. £30 million for two is a steal ;)

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  56. cause turan fits the system far better than downing. and is by far a superior player. but if he is worth 20-24? im not sure.
    compared to downing 20, then sure, arda is worth that much, compared to all other talent out there now that we arent no longer restricted by buy young british or british talent, 20 mil is a NONO

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  57. The Red Sox are more important to FSG and are not treated in the manner LFC is by the owners. There is much discontent by FSG shareholders in money being put into LFC. We are £4M in the black this summer and it is suggested that FSG are working in the back-room for a sale. We can but hope it is to someone who has a little more ( kill that.... a lot more! ) understanding of footballing matters.

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  58. where do you base this?

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  59. Completly un true, JH keeps his eye on Red Sox. And Werner keeps a eye on liverpool, we want to spend money but we won't over spend for some one.

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  60. We need:
    1 Winger (Turan?)
    1 Center back (Papadopoulos?)
    1 Defensive Mid (...no one...BUT Hughes and Turan would help depth in the midfield generally)
    Then we can challenge for top four....notice I said challenge. I doubt we could over come Tottenham, but it is possible if they mess up their easy games like we always did last season. Also, I am confident that we will finish above arsenal. So I would aim for 5th. We get back in Europe (albeit Europa but its something) and I keeps the improvement moving. If we get 4th, great. If we get lower, it would be very disappointing, but it would highlight all of our flaws and hopefully we will fix them in Jan or next June.

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  61. Goes to show you, everybody says you won't get this player or that player unless you have Champions League, but Spurs have show this Summer that isn't true and its really looking good for them now. What we have shown instead is that we really don't have the willingness to take that step up to the next level.

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  62. I agree. I know very little about 'Papa', but there seem to be a lot of posters on this forum getting desperate for the club to pay a big transfer fee, and putting little consideration into whether the players we're being linked with are actually worth the money. Mkhitaryan aside, I question the value for money the other expensive signings we've been linked with represent.

    Liverpool have had more misses than hits when spending 15-20m+ in recent years. Those players which have proven a success in this price range, like Torres and Suarez, have been planned well in advance and not a rash last minute buy. I'd rather put some faith in our young talent and wait until Christmas than bring in a last minute purchase which will have a higher risk of turning into an expensive flop on inflated wages

    All that said, if I'm going to get involved in fantasy football panic buys the one player I do think would be worth spending big for is Lamela, although the Spuds seem to have beaten everyone else to his signature again.

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  63. Any info on the Ukranian Messi? Could be amazing link up play with the Welsh Xavi - or will it all get lost in translation???

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  64. Rodgers would love to have a window like Dalglish had early doors in the current owners tenure. He has to be respected for taking the job with one armed tied behind his back and getting on with it. He must be gritting those new teeth when he asks Ayre to go for a player and watch on,as it fails to materialise.

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  65. The only people that told you about these "targets" were agents trying to up the prices of their players. Blame them.

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  66. The difference was 3m, and we decided not to pay the extra amount.

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  67. Will someone please put a bullet in me already. So sick and tired of this love story between Liverpool and Kriakos Papadopoulos. Are we ever going to actually sign this player. If i had the funds I would just give it to Rodgers so he can buy Papadopoulos.


    First Liverpool didn't want to pay the transfer fee for a player who is often injured. Now apparently we have renewed interest in the player. We can either meet the players transfer fee or simply look at other targets. A lot of people claim that Papadopoulos is top class when fit, but has been injured for so long he now finds himself down the pecking order in Shalke as his club replaced him in the transfer market. With the world cup next year i guess the player sees a move as way to improve his chances for a trip to Brazil.


    Liverpool being the cheap team it always has been must be simply trying to wait out Shalke. Hoping that the German club will be desperate enough to sell Papadopoulos to Liverpool at our club's own terms as the transfer window comes nearer to an end. I don't think Liverpool should be this invested in a player who hasn't played since Christmas. Don't know when the scouts got a chance to fully evaluate him since HASN'T PLAYED for so long. The consensus here must be that Liverpool see and easy purchase. I think we can do better personally Let's get that player from Sporting Lisbon for example whose name escapes me.

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  68. I've never really watched Papadopolous play in a full match, so I still maintain that Sakho should be first choice.


    LFC are just looking so wishy-washy with all of the big money transfers though, so it's no wonder that we continue to miss out - either you want the player at the market rate, or you don't. This dilly dallying, waiting for other clubs to step in is just making the club look amateurish.

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  69. He did decide to throw away £30m on players (Allen, Borini & Sahin) without improving the squad last year though...

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  70. Apparently such transfer business is only possible in Football Manager and Fifa...

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  71. Looks like Football Manager style transfer business to me.


    The same sort that us optimistic fans are derided for wishing for...

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  72. Spurs are different to us....they know they're getting 100m quid,we don't have that kind of money nor are FSG gonna give us that much.Nobody ever said you can't sign player when outside the CL,to do it required idiotic wages and transfer fees....Is Willian worth 35m? NO,not a chance.

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  73. 1. Yes, everybody has been saying that you can't sign CL players when outside the CL actually. The argument is just bent when clear contradictory examples are pointed out.
    2. There has not been any evidence as yet that Spurs are offering exorbitant wages out to secure their signings.
    3. Transfer fees have nothing to do with a clubs ability to attract a player. The decision of the club and the player are totally separate.
    4. Willian is not going to cost Spurs £35m. And he is worth whatever they're paying for him.

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  74. Many good players LFC are interested have failed to join us.LFC is slow and money minded. When u arenot playing in Europe u are already 50% down . Then if LFC starts bargaining on the fees the player is gone . U can only get second rated players if u are not in Europe and refuses to splash big money. Look at Chelsea they were no body at one time bottom of the table but their owners than and now are throwing money. They hv made it .
    No money no talk no big time players will join us.

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  75. I think it's Rodgers just as much as anyone else in the club saying "no" when the asking fee gets too high. He said many time it's part of his job to be financially prudent and that he won't sanction paying over the odds. It's not just Ayre going out and simply screwing it up, I think it's as simple the club being unwilling to pay the asking price. And that includes everyone being on the same page - Rodgers, Ayre, the owners and the scouting group. I think they all agree on the player value and then all agree to not pay more than that amount.

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  76. I don't think the club is interested in having 4 highly paid CBs in the squad. Coates is out of the picture for now so that really complicates the situation. Skrtel is the tipping point. LFC seem to need him now because he's the only backup CB and he WILL get time this season if he stays. But I can't see it happening that the club goes for someone like Papa and still have Skrtel. Too many highly paid players on the bench, it's not how Liverpool operate any more. Any transfer fee and getting Skrtel off the wage bill would be needed to fund the move, so Skrtel simply has to go. But Papa isn't fit and couldn't be relied on, so I don't see it happening. I think if they buy a CB now he has to replace Skrtel in the squad and be capable of taking a role immediately. Papa doesn't fill that need so I don't see why Rodgers would get him. Unless of course we're happy to keep Skrtel but my guess is he's on a healthy wage and we're just holding out until Napoli increase their bid to something decent.


    My guess would still be:
    1. Skrtel is sold now
    2. Ilori bought outright but only as a squad player
    3. Sakho or similar taken on loan for this season to compete for the starting CB role
    4. Decide on a permanent CB purchase next summer
    5. Coates is sold whenever he finally comes back from injury


    That leaves the majority of the transfer kitty for the attacking player the club still desperately needs.

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  77. That's true in Willian's case. They've been after him for two years I think.

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  78. It's not the buying club that can't keep their mouth shut. It's the selling club and the players agents. More interested clubs means more money for them.

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  79. You're making that up. I would like to see some sort of proof for that. And "I live in Liverpool and my auntie's barber knows someone in the ticket office" doesn't count as proof :-)

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  80. Lol. He still isn't getting the backing, if you were given little money, you stick to what you know. One injury to a squad player(coates) and the panic button is hit. If coutinho and Suarez, even lucas get injured, its big trouble. Sturridge also.Can he stay fit?The squad is light on quality, because, they aren't prepared to spend.

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  81. Kyriakos will come . His keen to join us. It's all about Liverpool showing him how much they want him. Very strong and passionate player.You'll be surprised with his power on air. As for the Willian case , fsg handled it superb. We can't pay 30mil because a Russian guy decided to pay that amount tor him. If we keep paying these amounts for overrated players , everyone who comes will ask more money than he really costs. I mean , who really knew willian before we decided to buy him! 30 mil??? No
    no no...

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  82. So your saying you would be happy for Liverpool to over pay for players like we did for carrol, henderson, dowing, aquaman etc...?


    As for players we missed this summer, as far as I know there have only been 2.


    1 we weren't even able to talk to the player himself and he went onto join the currently CL Champions and the other we were out bid for.

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  83. Please tell everybody all about these many players?

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  84. lets just get him before spurs hijack again

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  85. Enter Ian Ayre not a great negotiater with transfers imo he needs to stay away from transfers and stick to the marketing side of things, surely FSG know this by now so frustrting to all supporters on missing out on our transfer targets marqui players i don,t blame Spurs its a open market they just seem a lot better at negotiating than Ayre. LFC forever YNWA.

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  86. 'So your saying you would be happy for Liverpool to over pay for players like we did for carrol, henderson, dowing, aquaman etc'


    Overpay for certain players, that is what I would be happy with. I wasn't happy with the players you mentioned, at the time of their signing. A bunch of them were British, thus automatically high priced, and the other was a injured player who has a habit of being injured.

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  87. Overpay for certain players?


    That makes no sense.


    Lets take Willian as an example.


    It is looking like spurs will pay 30mil for him. Most people do not think he is worth that much, Liverpool Football Club being one.


    So if his value of 30mil is more then what most people think he is worth are you saying you want Liverpool to bid more even more then that?

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  88. 'Overpay for certain players?
    That makes no sense.'


    Say we think a player is worth £20m but we end up paying £25m. That is overpaying and I say we shouldn't be afraid to do that.

    I'm talking from LFC's view on what a player is worth. Not on what Spurs's view, Anzhi's view, Tranmere's view, Accrington Stanley's view. If a player is worth £20m in LFC's eyes but its a player that would look very likely to push the first XI's quality in the short term considerably forward, than I say push the boat out and spend a bit extra, spend a premium.

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  89. Yet unless we are the only club bidding then it doesn't work like that.


    In Willian's case, even if Liverpool went beyond their initial value of him, they would still have to at the very least match spurs bid.


    Yes if we are the only club bidding for a player and it comes down to a few mil and the player is rated that highly and can have an impact, then pay the few extra million, I completely agree with that.

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  90. 'Yet unless we are the only club bidding then it doesn't work like that.'

    Doesn't matter, in relation to what I'm trying to get at. The principle I'm asking for is a willingness to overpay. Regardless of whether or not someone else is bidding, it is still possible to make a bid that is beyond what LFC think the player is worth. Yes, the bid will be most likely rejected if there is a higher offer from another club but it shows that we aren't afraid to go beyond what we think is the value of the player. That is what I'm concerned about, whether we are prepared to beyond what we think a player is worth. In the Willian example, if our bid was more than what we think he is worth and still rejected, I'm ok with that as it at least shows some form of willingness to not play hardball all the time since G&H & KKII/Comolli debacle.

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  91. Its a combination of things, not just one.


    Not being in the CL for 4 years, not having any European football this year, finishing 8th and 7th and having 3 managers and a change of ownership in such a short amount of time doesn't exactly scream of stability oir that we are going to be pushing for CL spot any times soon.


    As Willian not costing spur 35mil.. your right, it will cost them a lot more.


    30mil for the transfer and then if he is getting paid the reported 100,000 grand per week on a 4 year deal that is a further 20mil, and this is not including any bonuses.

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  92. I've never argued about transfers being decided on a number of factors, most notably other options available to a player - I continue to rail against comments which try to simplify it down to an argument of "you can't get quality players w/o CL football on offer".


    And if you're going to carry on about wages, bonuses et al, then you should never state the transfer fee for a player at all.


    In fact, with that being the case, from your perspective we should probably be considering Gerrard our most expensive 'transfer' of all time rather than Carroll, since wages, bonuses, contract renewals, agent fees, coaching, schooling etc have to be accounted for!

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  93. Yet not being in CL does effect your ability sign players of a certain caliber. To say it doesn't is naive at best, stupid at worst.

    In regards to players wages, are you seriously saying that you shouldn't take into a account a players wages when making a bid for a player?


    If so then you have no idea.


    It happens often that clubs pull out of transfers even when a fee has been agreed because they can not afford a players wages.


    Hell even when a player is coming on a free clubs pull out of deals because of wages.


    Many times having the funds for the transfer is not enough if you know you can not afford the players wages.

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  94. 1. IRT CL football; read what I said again and the comment that has started this whole thread - you're arguing with points that nobody is making.


    2. IRT costs; read what I said again - of course wages are part of the cost of a player, but they are NEVER added into discussions of a players transfer fee, just as NOBODY says Gerrard cost Liverpool £X in coaching fees, £Y in wages, and £Z in bonuses/fees. Or do players just remain at LFC for free once their services have been secured (e.g. Downing, Carroll, Allen with the commonly stated £20m, £35m & £15m transfer fees respectively)

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  95. They don't in the press until the player turns out to a dud.. just look at many press reports when we sold Carrol :)


    Your comments just show how single minded you are in your thinking.


    You honestly think when a club is looking at buying a player they just think about the transfer fee?


    This is the problem with many fans, all they see is the transfer fee and do not think about everything else that has to be taken into consideration when signing a player.


    They open a newspaper, website or turn on the TV and see a transfer fee and go "OMG can't we afford that, the world is ending"


    If a player like will Willian can potentially cost a Club over 50mil in transfer fee's and wages over a 4 year period, is he worth it?


    Most people just look at the transfer.

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  96. This season LFC will become stronger team if they can get sign 1 more attacking players and 1 more centreback who can operate versatile players. For attacker i would like to see LFC can sign Christian Eriksen or Leandro Damiao.This both 2 players still young,skillfull and fasters.I prefers more L.Damiao because he is cool and more creative to create many chances and look like very briliant and genius footballer.C.Eriksen is like more to aces of players,type fighter footballer.
    For last signing centreback Kryiakos Papadoulos and Mamadou Sakho is now the very best players LFC must get sign.Both players not only centreback, versatile players but can assist and score the goal we needed. Very worth to get sign this 2 players.Papadoulos can operate as CDM or Holding ball during facing fisycall team like stoke,everton and others team. Sakho also very tough to protect LFC fortress and also can cover up if any injured players while needed.
    Only this 2 position we all hopes that LFC can fill in before transfers window will nearly closes.

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  97. Of course wages are taken into consideration (cutting our wage bill has been a major topic of discussion for how long now?), but not when talking about a transfer fee - EVERYBODY looks at the transfer fee because that is a simple, publicly stated figure.

    Wages fluctuate throughout a players stay at a club, and any efforts at stating additional fees now would just be random guesswork.
    Nobody has any real idea how much Willian is going to cost Spurs throughout his time there,
    - How long is he actually going to remain at the club?
    - How much is being paid out additionally in legal and agent fees during negotiations?
    - What bonus payments/sweeteners is he receiving?
    - What if he renegotiates his contract for double the money next year?
    - What if he is sold for a profit in 6 months? Would that mean he is signing for free now?

    Anyways, every press report I see about Carroll continues to talk about the £35m flop. The only additional fee that is commonly discussed, aside from the subsequent £15m transfer fee, is last years £2m loan fee.

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  98. As much as I hate it , but I think Spurs are thinking the right way n doing the right thing. There is only ONE FOURTH SPOT. It will be fought between 2 or 3 teams. Themselves Arsenal n Liverpool. They will do well to spoil the plans of securing targets of these 2 teams. Of course it will be for players they know are going to make an impact for them too. No point for them trying to scupper the top 3's plans coz they will somehow get what they want tho not 100%. So any attempts of weaker financial team no matter how big a club Liverpool is, to get a top player is going to be intercepted as long as they see the move will pose a threat if it goes through eventually. Especially when FSG is clearly too thrifty and not the passionate owner the football world is used to makes hampering our plans a walk in the park.

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  99. Eric, don't mean to be rude. Your aunt uses a barber ? Just making suren I read it right or just know that I had my last mug.

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