Liverpool manager Brendan Rodgers continues to blindly defend Reds striker Luis Suarez against any and all accusations of wrongdoing, and like Kenny Dalglish before him, he is actively perpetuates the tedious and damaging victim complex associated with LFC. Thankfully, there are some ex-Reds out there who prefer to be honest and objective, like Dietmar Hamann, for example, who has joined Everton manager David Moyes in publicly stating that Suarez deserved to be sent off against Everton.
Suarez was booked for the second game running at Goodison, and he was lucky to escape further punishment for two nasty 'tackles' on Sylvain Distin and Kevin Mirallas. In his post-match press conference, Moyes said:
"I've got to say he [Suarez] was a very lucky man to stay on the pitch. They've shown me the tackle from behind down Sylvain's leg. It's over the top, down the back of the leg".
Take a look for yourself:
After viewing these images, Hamann - who played an integral role in Liverpool's success under Gerard Houllier and Rafa Benitez - argued:
"After seeing the highlights I have to say Suarez should have been sent off. I'm talking about the 2nd foul in the same area of the pitch, which should have been a 2nd yellow".
Clearly, Hamann is right; both of the above 'tackles' are pretty poor. Being charitable, you could argue that Suarez simply mis-timed his tackles, but looking at the evidence, I find that very hard to believe. Both were clearly deliberate, and this is obvious to any unbiased observer (IMO)
Predictably, Hamann was barracked by fans for criticise Suarez, and in response, he added:
"Why is everybody going on the defensive? All I said is that Suarez should have had a 2nd yellow and lucky to be on the pitch till the end of the game?
"Being a fan doesn't mean you have to be biased or blinkered. Common sense required"
Absolutely spot on. Being a fan doesn't mean you have to bury your head in the sand and toe the company line. As Didi says, common sense is required, and Liverpool's players should be criticised when it's warranted.
The bolded line above also encapsulates exactly what this site is about, and it's to the German's credit that he has the balls to tell the truth.
It's all so laughably hypocritical: A few weeks ago, Liverpool fans were foaming at the mouth over Robert Huth's unpunished stamp on Suarez, yet the very same fans now refuse to condemn Suarez for two similar (in nature) incidents against Everton (!)
The Uruguayan is an absolutely superb player, but he was out of order with those two tackles above, and if he continues to act like that on the pitch, he's in danger of becoming even more reviled than he is already.
Jaimie Kanwar
Suarez was booked for the second game running at Goodison, and he was lucky to escape further punishment for two nasty 'tackles' on Sylvain Distin and Kevin Mirallas. In his post-match press conference, Moyes said:
"I've got to say he [Suarez] was a very lucky man to stay on the pitch. They've shown me the tackle from behind down Sylvain's leg. It's over the top, down the back of the leg".
Take a look for yourself:
After viewing these images, Hamann - who played an integral role in Liverpool's success under Gerard Houllier and Rafa Benitez - argued:
"After seeing the highlights I have to say Suarez should have been sent off. I'm talking about the 2nd foul in the same area of the pitch, which should have been a 2nd yellow".
Clearly, Hamann is right; both of the above 'tackles' are pretty poor. Being charitable, you could argue that Suarez simply mis-timed his tackles, but looking at the evidence, I find that very hard to believe. Both were clearly deliberate, and this is obvious to any unbiased observer (IMO)
Predictably, Hamann was barracked by fans for criticise Suarez, and in response, he added:
"Why is everybody going on the defensive? All I said is that Suarez should have had a 2nd yellow and lucky to be on the pitch till the end of the game?
"Being a fan doesn't mean you have to be biased or blinkered. Common sense required"
Absolutely spot on. Being a fan doesn't mean you have to bury your head in the sand and toe the company line. As Didi says, common sense is required, and Liverpool's players should be criticised when it's warranted.
The bolded line above also encapsulates exactly what this site is about, and it's to the German's credit that he has the balls to tell the truth.
It's all so laughably hypocritical: A few weeks ago, Liverpool fans were foaming at the mouth over Robert Huth's unpunished stamp on Suarez, yet the very same fans now refuse to condemn Suarez for two similar (in nature) incidents against Everton (!)
The Uruguayan is an absolutely superb player, but he was out of order with those two tackles above, and if he continues to act like that on the pitch, he's in danger of becoming even more reviled than he is already.
Jaimie Kanwar
For me, it looks like Suarez did at least one of those purpose, the Mirallas one and even the Distin seemed deliberate, considering his stride. A talent player he is but boy can he be such a terd on the pitch with some of the things he does.
ReplyDeleteDidi pointed out the obvious, blast is a bit harsh
ReplyDeleteAgree that the tackles were bad
And some of the people argued with me why I was saying Suarez has been at his antics in almost every game recently. Just do simple maths on the number of his cheating/stamping/general unsportsmanlike behaviour and the recent matches.
ReplyDeleteSuarez is a disrespectful, egoistical cheat. For me, that is enough to erase all his great playing ability. You are a human first and footballer/fan/whoever second.
Well done, an objective football site who encourage criticism of their own club and players' failings. I must add that a senior ex-ref said he would have booked Suarez for his antics in front of the Everton bench, but as an Evertonian I found that amusing. He is a talented footballer who, like Tevez, will only be remembered for being a bad sportsman and that's a shame, but he has only himself to blame.
ReplyDeleteWith the Distin foul, only Suarez knows if it was intentional, but running at speed, behind a very lanky big defender who leaves his very long leg outstretched behind him while Suarez is fully focused on trying to get the ball is certainly a case for mitigation.
ReplyDeleteBut Suarez is kicked, pulled, stamped on, tripped and elbowed in virtually every game and get's no protection from the referee so it's not surprising he decides to give out his own retribution.
Against Everton Rugby Club yesterday, I think all our players including poor Joe Allen were battered and dragged everywhere but again they got very little protection from the referee.
Surely it is human nature that if a player deliberately fouls and hurts you and gets away with it then you will try to do the same in return, it's nothing new in the game.
Seriously!!!!! The article had credibility until I read Huth stamp is similar to Suarez's tackles on Sunday? Come On make your point but that comparison is ridiculous!
ReplyDeleteEveryone is aware of your thoughts on Suarez! Some agree some not but Moyes has again been clever with the Media highlighting these tackles and taking the emphasis away from the diving when infact one of his players got booked for diving!
Moyes knew LFC showed Everton they are no where near our level even with us changing 3 managers since he has been at Everton! LFC proved it sunday and looked comfortable through most of the game and had the better quality players on the day.
No mention of how well Suarez played again , he was fantastic sunday, no play acting , no Diving, this was a bloody derby against Everton so good on him I say, put it about and give it back to them! They have been doing it for years!!!!
That is a feeble 'b-b-b-but mom, he did it first' excuse. Because other players do it, doesn't mean Suarez should do it. He doesn't need any encouraging. I don't recall any player biting him, yet he bit Bakkal. There is no defending some of the things Suarez does, regardless of what other people do.
ReplyDeleteSuarez bashing again,YAWN,YNWA
ReplyDeleteYou sir are an idiot
ReplyDeleteTo be honest your a bitter man full of spite for Luis Suarez. You clearly have never played football, as both tackles were clumsy not filled with any malice or intent. The fact your pointing out these two tackles above the more memorable side of his contribution to the game shows how much spite you have for the man. You're a disgrace for a Liverpool supporter, and seem to have very little interest in any of the good things that are happening at liverpool. Rounding on Rodgers who has conducted himself very well over the short time he has been at liverpool while rightly defending his player shows your true agenda...tackles such as the above happen in every match, yet Suarez does them and he makes the subject of your article. No mention of Neville, nah not your style, once you have the hard on for a player you keep with it blindfully, bullying your way to make judgements on him where there are none. You should make an examination of your own life...you clearly need to get rid of some bitterness and twisted views. Stop interpreting others quotes to twist into your own sad and twisted ideology. it's bad journalism
ReplyDeletetrue!!
ReplyDeleteIt wasn't intended that way.
ReplyDeleteDo you take everything in life so literally? Obviously, when I say 'similar', I mean the nature of the offence, i.e. a deliberate stamp. Should I explain everything in minute detail and insult the intelligence of site visitors?
ReplyDeleteYou talk about Moyes allegedly trying to take attention away from diving, but that makes no sense. He condemned his own player (Neville) for diving in his post match interview; when has Rodgers ever done that?
I've praised Suarez's performance in another article, and just because he played well doesn't excuse his behaviour.
jaimie kanwar? u compare tat tackle to huth's stamp on Suarez's CHEST???nonsense
ReplyDeleteunfortunately we are stuck with suarez till the end of the season, and i hope brendan sells him then.
ReplyDeletegood player he may be, but i am sick of his antics, and sick of the bad publicity he brings to our club. distin is a fair and honest pro, and that could have finished his career yesterday. mirallas could be out for a while too, and what message does it send out? what will the likes of allardyce et al be saying? get out there and cripple them before they cripple you.
if it was one of our own on the recieving end we would be up in arms.
suarez will never learn, the same as barton will never learn, sell while he is worth big money, and hopefully it will be before his next scandal, and there will be a next scandal, there always is with this sort of player
You haven't got a clue! Accident against Distin! You need glasses mate. Liverpool produced more fouls,sterling also could have been sent off kicking baines from behind for a 2nd yellow with the ball miles away. Mirralas had to be subbed because of Suarez. And yes Neville got a booking for going down 2 easy from feeling aggressive arms on him but Gerrard is a master at it as shown on that non foul that was given against osman which resulted in the disallowed goal from a player who should not have been still on the pitch! Baines & Mirralas were a threat & Distin was playing well so they took the kicks I guess. As for you using rugby fc I recall Liverpool pumping the ball to no one.
ReplyDeleteRodgers needs to have a word and put a stop to the diving and dirty fouls. We've seen him giving the kids a dressing down but has he got the balls to do it to one of the star players? Last season was the race drama, now it's the diving. Bringing shame on the club, should be subbed, dropped and if that fails sold. Set an example, its not as if we are going to be in the top 4 anyway this season, holding true to passing principles is one thing but what about acting like men rather than dirty cheats?
ReplyDeleteThat should say agger not aggressive,soz
ReplyDeleteMy defence of Suarez is that it could have very easily been accidental, Suarez is looking past Distin and following the ball, Distin has very long legs and the outstretched leg must be nearly 2 feet behind him.
ReplyDeleteThe majority of players in every league use wind up tactics, cheats, niggles, fouls etc to get one over on the opposition, it's nothing new in the game, it's just some are more obvious than others. The infamous clip of Vinnie Jones grabbing Gazza's balls 25 years ago is just an example.
It's not as if Suarez got away with it, he was adjudged to have fouled and a free kick was given, obviously like me the referee was inclined to think it may have been accidental.
There where lots of nasty tackles, blatant fouls and cheats in yesterday's game yet all that hits the headlines is Suarez, give the man a break.
i'm guessing u aint a liverpool fan
ReplyDeleteNonsense. You can clearly see Suarez skid before the tackle on Distin. It was an accident, not deliberate. Watch the way he cuts the pitch up before his foot lands on Distin in the clip. It deserved a card but nothing more. The tackle on Mirallas was never a card in the context of the game because of all the tackles the ref had let go before. Maybe a different day, a different ref, it would have received a yellow, but not in a derby.
ReplyDeleteYou can always tell the comments from people who have never played a proper game of football, and no playing SPOT against the garden wall doesn't count.
ReplyDeleteThe foul on Distin could have been accidental, only one player knows for certain.
I referred to the Everton Rugby team, as your tactics were very much based on the physical Stoke like approach, not quite the way the game is meant to be played, but with limited players with limited technical ability I suppose you don't have a lot of choice.
What I said was said exactly because I'm a Liverpool fan and only want decent players and individuals in my club, as well as in football in general.
ReplyDeleteI really think we should have off loaded/replaced Suarez AND Reina in the summer. Its just endless with Suarez, lost all liking for him during the Evra row last season and his antics after that have just confirmed what i feared most i.e. that he is bigger than the Club.....
ReplyDeleteYesterday was a prime example, praised to the heavens on nearly every LFC fan site as being a genius etc which he might well be in footballing terms but at the same time somehow his shennanigans/bad behaviour is conveniently swept under the rug...yet again.
The really annoying part is that his dive in front of Moyes etc is being hailed as pure class....that was the general consensus on one particular site....yet he was indeed lucky to be on the pitch...
Jamie is spot on, it is worrying that we are seeing something of a dejavu scenario with Suarez and BR this season, very similar to Kenny's tenure in this regard, basically Suarez can do no wrong at the Club, the victim culture is alive and well at LFC and it has become very frustrating/cringeworthy being a supporter in recent times... (well it has been for me at least,)
Oh to have eye's to see ourselves as other's see us...
Great article Jamie, keep up the good work!
Surely by using this logic Fellaini should've been sent off for his kick against Allen no?
ReplyDeleteI guess you're joking. Suarez knew exactly what he was doing, especially with the "tackle" on Mirallas. Mirallas had been running our right side ragged up to that point and Suarez's deliberate stamp into his ankle stopped that and changed the game. As someone else wrote, he's a brilliant footballer, but there is no place in the game nowadays for that sort of behaviour ... he's not playing in an ale-house Sunday League. In my opinion it was cowardly and snide and I don't want to see that sort of thing reflecting on LFC ... Brendan has to come down hard on him, for his own sake but more importantly to protect the image of LFC
ReplyDeleteI'd have a Suarez over a "decent" player anytime. Boy knows what it takes to win! Mirralas himself wasn't exactly a saint here, was he? He made a number of pretty lousy challenges!
ReplyDeletefootball has a set of rules and you can play how ever you want.Football is about winning so who say its not the way to play just because it dont suit you.I personally dont like the way spain and barca play.I like a game to be a bit quicker and more end to end. And no not long ball just fast paced british football.Sorry rant over it gets to me how people think every team should play one way.
ReplyDeleteAre you for real ? what a fkin idiot you actually are, not even the most twisted reds share your view, wsafe journey back to jurghenhades or werever you come from TIT
ReplyDeleteNo, I am not Joking. Suarez knew exactly what he was doing? How do you know this? Did he call you after the match?
ReplyDeleteChanged the game my arse. Mirallas didn't assist or score in first half, how did it change the game? Couple of sweet Sterling type runs on amateur Wisdom made him look like match winner but in fact he did nothing. You know what changed the game? Onside goal given offside.
In your opinion it was cowardly and snide. Good, we don't share same opinion. Best player on the pitch, hands down. Brendan should support Suarez through and through. Talking about LFC image, we would be at relegation zone without Suarez...he is the reason why LFC is still taken seriously by oppositions.
Like most of the fans, am with Luis Suarez through and through. He has been targeted by almost every manager, defender and not to speak of crowds throwing stuffs on him. He deserves every bit of respect as a player and we will be right behind him. Players targeting him are not even half as good as him, he is world class.
Go Luis Suarez, BR, Liverpool...!! YNWA.
Football is a game, the object of any game is to win. If you Suarez offends you so much then don't watch. I'm also sick and tired of people thinking footballers should be responsible role models. It's been proven that violence in video games and movies does not lead violent behaviour in children. Football is entertainment if you don't like it don't watch.
ReplyDeleteEverton are by far the better football team, watch MOYD last nite, Rugby ? you tool, you are just bitter that not 1 of that shite in red would get into Evertons team at present, start looking over your shoulder twisteds, you manager was found out at Swans, and has now read the gobshite manual into how to attend press .
ReplyDeleteEverton rugby club. Are you serious with that comment?? This is what is wrong with football, idiots like you with comments like that above.
ReplyDeleteTIT
ReplyDeleteGet over it you twisted nobs, we played the better football, simple coz we are the better team
ReplyDeleteOk so should fellani.... Took sterling out,took agger out and Allen! What about mirales? 3 fouls in 10 minutes. Two tackles were bad but it's a strikers tackle!
ReplyDeleteHahahahaha are you a Everton fan??? your comment made me laugh :)
ReplyDeleteHow did you work that one out?
ReplyDeletePathetic - I can't believe most people on here supports Liverpool. Don't you lot actually see anything good Luis Suarez does?? He's been absolutely fantastic for this club despite being public enemy no_1 but to read this negative stuff coming from supporters of this football club amazes me.
ReplyDeleteA few players including Steven Gerrard, Glenn Johnson and Brendan Rodgers himself has supported Suarez after this Everton game and think a few of you should realise that without Suarez in our team we'd be in the bottom 3 right now.
Surprise surprise no mention that Suarez was the Man Of The Match!
He deserve some respect but not 'every bit'. Anyone who dives, bites, stamps, etc, doesn't deserve every bit of respect.
ReplyDeleteErmm sorry mate, I have played football at a reasonable level and I think you're being generous, (in fact very generous) to Suarez there.Not sure how you would defend the one on Mirallas because there was definately no slip involved in that stamp.
ReplyDeleteI also think your comments on the Everton Rugby Team are not entirely accurate. Let's be honest here, they played us off the park in the 1st half and check the stats for passing, fouls etc. on our own website and they don't back up your argument. Yes they've got some big players, but I'd hardly call Osman, Baines, Coleman or Mirallas big lads.
It's about time some of us took our red specs off and at least acknowledge were not always perfect ... and sometimes other teams play reasonable football as well ... even though it pains me to say it, Everton who look a decent side this year.
To be fair, the fella your replying to was referring to your line that includes 'retribution', not whether you think the Distin incident was on purpose or not.
ReplyDeleteBites and Stamp is thing of his past. He left it before moving into LFC. If that was really a concern, why LFC buy him at first place? To bash him for his past mistakes? Get over Suarez everyone...as if British media wasn't enough.
ReplyDeletei am a blue and think suarez is a very good player but he has a very nasty side, what he did to mirallas and distin was disgusting he could have put both of them out of action for months, sadly once again at liverpool they have a manager who condones what suarez does whether it be divin, deliberate raking of studs on players ankles or racially abusing fellow players, i wonder if rodgers will grow a set of balls and sort this nasty piece of s**t out
ReplyDeleteand Everton usually start seasons quite badly under Moyes. They usually reach form quite late in the season and start off quite bad or at least very average. Already had lost 5 league games by this time last year. If they keep up the form, they'll be battling for the 4 & lower spots. Yet another contender we may have to deal with in our quest to make a push for a top 6 place. They can be physical when they need to be (though not as much as some are making it out to be on here) but they can play too.
ReplyDeleteI'm not saying he isn't world class but he needs to stop the snide element he shows in his game because he's not doing himself or us any favours with it. As for Brendan supporting him through and through ... are you saying Suarez can do no wrong and you would prefer to see another PR disaster like last year when Kenny supported him? Hopefully Brendan has more sense than that and as a manager, if a player is out of line, it's part of his job to bring him back in line.
ReplyDeleteIf Suarez cut out the needless antics, the football world in general would see him for the great player he is instead of the way he appears to be seen now.
Pffft. Doesn't make sense some bits of your comment.. Considering his behaviour in a LFC shirt, he is hardly a totally different and angelic character since joining LFC. The guy doesn't deserve every bit of respect, otherwise he would be an angelic player, which he clearly isn't. 'Get over' that, Suarez is not mr clean.
ReplyDeleteThe club can buy who they like, doesn't mean fans have to like and respect everything the player does. Some people do not like cheating, diving, biting, stamping, etc. Hardly things that are unreasonable to dislike and not respect. Doesn't have to be all or nothing.
How do you know 'it wasn't intended that way'? You mock others for making assumptions (assumptions that you funnily enough don't agree with) below over the same issue by saying stuff like 'Did he call you after the match', yet you do it yourself right here.
ReplyDeleteI'll tell you what changed the game,Sterling&suarez not getting sent off for hacking Everton players and Gerrard going down like a big girl FOR the free kick in the last minute! Then we would not be talking about the on side goal. I'm all for a meaty 50/50 challenge but not dirty kick/stamp from behind. And yes I play the game at a decent level.
ReplyDeleteThe Neville one I've seen similar ones given week in and week out in the prem.
ERC HAHA RUGBY IS THE WELSH FAVORITE GAME. WERE MOST OF YOU BITTER C"UNTS COME FROM. GET OFF OUR SITE !!!!
ReplyDeleteEVERTON RUGBY CLUB HA HA .ITS THE WELSH NUMBER ONE SPORT. SO WHY ARE U SO UPSET TAFF? BITTER TO THE END AS NORMAL .
ReplyDeleteWE PUMPED TWO BALLS IN THE BOX THAT U COULDN T DEAL WITH! 2ND AND 3RD GOAL!!!! HOWS THE WEATHER IN WALES????
ReplyDeleteClearly the comment policy does not apply when Suarez is the victim. If calling someone a nasty piece of s**t is not personal then nothing is
ReplyDeleteand doughas, your captain is a filthy cheating diver
ReplyDeleteYou just don't get it do you, its not a matter of whether Suarez offends me...take your head out of the sand and try to look at the bigger picture, Luis Suarez has done a lot of damage to the profile of this Club already, the racism row coupled with his god awful antics, its like an ongoing soap opera with the main protaganist being you know who...yep you got it Suarez.
ReplyDeleteClearly the owners are trying to re vamp our profile in the eye's of the rest of the world....and surely this guy is hell bent on doing just how he pleases with scant regard as to how it is perceived...
And its not like he's been all that prolific this season either....very unconvincing IMO in terms of his overall play and consistency, yet he puts in a good shift against the toffee's and he's once again untouchable....
People like you need to understand that not every LFC fan's are happy with a player who cheats, dives, and nigh on assaults other players whilst throwing regular strops at the ref's and moaning constantly when things don't go his way...
And its not like he's young and it can be put down to being over zealous etc its just bad behaviour full stop, there is no justifying it, no matter how good a player he is if he doesn't get what "being Liverpool" is all about then he should fcuk off elsewhere.
OMG you are going to start talking about 'static zones' and other such bollox soon aren't you ? Sometimes you have to just admit that it can't always be someone else's fault.
ReplyDeleteYes I freely admit to being an Evertonian and having a certain bias on this one, but I have never known another player to court as much controversy as Suarez does and it can't all be smoke without fire or bullshyt conspircacy theories against him and/or LFC in general.
Its nice to finally see some reds out there that aren't prepared to defend this man to the hilt and still care enough about your club's reputation to see it how it really is for the rest of us. Hence this site I suppose ?
Its about time you and other reds like you started to listen to these people if you stubbornly refuse to listen to outside voices, before this dispicable excuse for a man leads your club, its supporters and its reputation down a path from which it will be very difficult to return.
IT WAS NICE TO SEE WOODISON FULL FOR A CHANGE .US BIG CLUBS HAVE A RESPONABILITY TO BRING 1000S OF FANS TO SMALL CLUBS TO KEEP THEN AFLOAT. INFACT TO SHOW IM A FOOTBALL FAN I MIGHT EVEN PURCHASE A XMAS HALF SEASON TICKET WHEN THE 10 000 COME ON SALE!!
ReplyDeleteIf you can let go of your hate for one minute any fair minded person can see he didn't mean it! It was a clear accident! Why don't you run a story about why didnt jagielka get sent off for pulling down sterling when he was through on goal??? No??? Your just a troll with a site mate!
ReplyDeleteWhat's it like up there ? Mr. perfect. Jesus I'd say your a barrel of laughs, basically fcuk Everton the dirty cheating fcukers, the linesman won it for them, enough said, alot of us fans will support him no matter what he dose cos what he really wants is to win, to win for us, so everyone else suck my ballbag
ReplyDeleteI think that a reasonable Everton fan would be satisfied with your reasoning, and would have said that he did not deserve the red but could have got it. What amazes me is that with all those mistakes from the ref, there are Liverpool fans who concentrate on this... Liverpool was treated like championship mid table club, and it has been going on and on. and on. Dont you have a problem with that?!?
ReplyDeleteWhere's my comment
ReplyDeleteWhere's my comment
ReplyDeleteI've just clicked "like" ... by mistake I hasten to add!
ReplyDeleteAnd there's really no need to SHOUT .... you'll find the Caps Lock key to the left on your keyboard ;)
JUST TO ADD TO YOUR POST NOT LONG AGO THE BITTERS HAD THE BIGGEST THUG IN FOOTBALL BUTTIN AND PUNCHIN PLAYERS YES WE ARE TALKIN ABOUT DRUNKIN DUNCAN THE JAILBIRD!!! KETTLE AND POT DONT YOU THINK .
ReplyDeleteabsolutely blinkered and as far as I am concerned, it is you who knows nothing about football. Everton rugby team????? As Rob the football fan has pointed out, read your own stats!!!!!
ReplyDeletehope your as damning of your own captain, who is worse and a hypocrite (his book), when it comes to the dark arts.
ReplyDeleteAll the stats show Everton played more football than Liverpool, pass completiton, possession, chances created, but you go on thinking Everton are a longball team, after the Osman goal you were being dominated and that's why Suarez targetted Mirallas because he was the most dangerous Everton player in that first half, there certainly was a team employing Stoke bully boy tactics on Sunday and it certainly was not the side in blue, take the red tinted specs off for a change.
ReplyDeleteDid anyone notice that Suarez went to apologize to Distin, and not to the ref? Straight away, because it was not something he wanted to do, if it was he would have reacted differently. After a couple of years of just watching football, you can see what is and what is not intentional, and Distin saw it and so did the ref. but Liverpool fans can not. amazing...
ReplyDeleteWell said that man, go on any Everton fans site and you'll see everybody calling Neville an idiot for diving infront of Agger, Suarez is a fantastic player but he really does let himself and LFC down when he behaves like he did on Sunday, those two stamps were deliberate attempts to injure fellow professionals, it was disgusting and very cowardly to say the least.
ReplyDeleteim in bits at some of the liverpool fans on here,suddenly we have a better team and had we had pienaar n gibson and ure extremely vile but very talented suarez not put mirralles out we would have prevailed quite easily,as we were by far the dominant force,still,hope 11th place looks good,only a matter of time before suarez does something which gets him banned,never known such a great player have a really ugly streak to him,he doesnt need to do it,its amazing the club accept his behaviour as it drags your clubs name through the shit every week
ReplyDeleteLIKE UR MANAGER DID WITH DRUNKIN DUNCAN AND DONT U LOT TALK ABOUT BEING RACIST .U WERE LIKE THE KKK OF FOOTBALL NOT LONG AGO .SAW JOHN BARNES AT THE GREEN GROCERS THE OTHER DAY HES FINALLY FINISHED THE 20000 BANANAS U BITTER AND TWISTED C****S THREW AT HIM DO US ALL AFAVOUR FELLA GO ON UR OWN SITE.THATS IF SMALL CLUBS HAVE ONE AND STAY OFF OURS
ReplyDeleteare you a complete idiot! we have limited technical ability!!! if your red animals didnt go out to intentionally injure mirralas we would have beat you comfotably, osman is creative, jelavic , baines, fellaini ALL CREATIVE, the fact is your club is full of cheats and has no class, face it the table doesnt lie, MORON
ReplyDeleteWith people like you two .... is it any wonder we're getting such negative press these days? We used to be known as being knowledgeable and fair fans.
ReplyDeletePeople like you just throw fuel on the fire for my Blue mates.
whats ur idea of a reasonable level then rob?
ReplyDeletehope you asked Barnesy about the bananas and monkey chants he got from the kop when he played for Watford, or the KKK outfits that were spotted in the away end at Arsenal for his first LFC game. ATV
ReplyDeleteYou totally contradict yourself ! ' you can always tell the comments from people who have never played a proper game of football ' ?? Well if YOU have YOU will surely know that it is a physical game played by men, not wimpish cheats ?
ReplyDeleteAlso, the cheap ' limited players with limited ability ' slur ? You obviously don't know much about football or you haven't watched much TV coverage this season, Everton have been playing some of the most eye pleasing football of any team, hence the fact they have created more chances and had more efforts at goal than any team in the top 5 European leagues ! I think most people who know 'something' about football including every ex pro pundit and every football journalist would tell you that. I suppose you know best though ?
Is Rodger the one to blame on Suarez's action? Or should we drop him of the first team? May be a good idea.
ReplyDeleteIf the Mirallas tackle was a yellow, than 5 Everton players should have got a yellow{some would have been double}. And if second was a red, than 2 of theirs should have got it. I am happy he got away with it... by the way if you count the third goal, Suarez is on top of the scorers list...
ReplyDeleteI'm generally not damning of anybody in football when it comes to moral issues for two reasons
ReplyDeleteIt's just a game
Who am I to say what's right or wrong?
Don't forget the ones that LFC fans threw at Barnsey once upon a time eh. Pathetic, the way you drag that stuff up, to make it sound like it excuses the here and now. Pathetic.
ReplyDeleteA red calling someone bitter ? HAHAHA !! MANCHESTER UNITED anyone ????
ReplyDeleteAs far as im concerned "being Liverpool" is a shitty documentary.
ReplyDeleteAs for Suarez not being prolific this season, along with Glen Johnson he has been our best player.
I can assure you that a resounding majority of fans are happy with Suarez and there is absolutely no proof to back up your claim the he has done the reputation of the club harm
who was the senior ex ref???
ReplyDeleteTake a good long hard look at the Vid with Distin, Suarez makes the smallest of lunges as his foot comes down on Distin's ankle....it is just slightly noticeable, its not just that he was running and it just kinda happened that he caught Distin unintentionally, certainly looks like there was intent for me, the fact that we have 2 incidents like this in the same game with the same player and it just happens to be against Everton...
ReplyDeleteLike it or not, Suarez has lot's of previous form in this regard..., you can brush it under the rug and defiantly defend him from any criticism, fact is he was taunting Moyes and Everton by way of his dive etc, Suarez is a very clever player, he is also very clever at disguising his intentions, believe it or not, i take no satisfaction from criticising one of our players for behaving badly, i'd much rather be talking about how great a footballer he is....
Shame really, isn't it.
There's one thing criticising other player's/manager's/club's for their bad behaviour but we can condone our own...?
Hypocrisy at it's very finest!
Object of any game is to win, yes, that is a almost certainty to say the least but at all costs? No thanks.
ReplyDeletePeople are allowed to make judgments, they don't necessarily have to be conclusive or factual ones but they can be opinions. We are entitled to opinions aren't we, e.g. on for what is right or wrong. We should be allowed to critique without having to be subjected to the tired rubbish of 'oh if you don't like it, don't watch it' (big difference between disliking parts of it and disliking all of it. I dislike odious behaviour in the game but that doesn't mean I dislike the whole game). Almost nothing is perfect to say the least and when there is that, there is always something to moan about and rightly so.
ReplyDeleteGraham Poll. You must remember him, surely. He once disallowed a perfectly good EFC goal when LFC goalie kicked ball against Don Hutchinson's back, and ball went in LFC net in last minute of game. To his credit Poll later admitted he'd made an almighty howler.
ReplyDeleteStamping on Suarez - where was Didi then - in the Bookies.
ReplyDeleteA quarter of the way through the season and TWO wins, you will be taking 1000s of your bitter supporters to plenty of small clubs next season mate, Blackpool, Peterborough, Ipswich etc ! OOOH your a bitter lot you reds ! HAHA.
ReplyDeleteSo why didn't Baines take retribution on anyone. He was fouled constantly throughout the game. Good tactics by Clodagh. Sour grapes by Red Whiners. Where's Thomas, Atkinson, Clattenburg or Poll when you need them ?
ReplyDeleteIve had enough Legends mouths lately - Kenny is understandably bitter, but that should only be with owners not LFC, Lawrenson is deliberately trying to knock LFC in the Mirror. Fact - Craig Johnson used to phone the papers every time he wanted a bit extra, he is not alone in that me thinks.
ReplyDeleteno mate its fact .i dont have a selective memory like some people.like us costin u european football at goodison fact . like u lot kickin f*ck out of your manager at blackpool .thats whats football is all about facts .people who dont like facts and figures about football NOW THATS PATHETIC
ReplyDeletethe bannana incident was when Barnes played for liverpool you moron.
ReplyDeleteShock, horror. Human being makes mistake.
ReplyDeleteGot to laugh, I really do. Everton Rugby Club... I mean, seriously? I'm fairly sure we had 56% possession with a 78% success rate. Liverpool committed 19 fouls to our 17, our two central midfielders had a passing success rate of 94% and 87% - Allen was on 86%. Brad Jones smashed the ball long twenty times compared to Howard's 16....
ReplyDeleteI could go on and on, but as per usual there's a preconceived mentality amongst Liverpool supporters that can't be assuaged by cold, hard stats.
Yep, we got lucky with the linesman, but Sterling could have gone for two yellows, Baines could have had a blatant pen, Suarez - for the reasons detailed above - could have walked twice. Coulda woulda shoulda...
Oh, and it seems you all have very, very short memories! Don Hutchison and Sander Westerveld? The goal that never was? Rodwell sent off for nothing?
But no, none of that matters, of course.
Fair play to the article writer for having the balls to be objective, but I'd expect bullets in the post as that's the usual methodology for anyone who dares question the "Liverpool Way".
The only problem is that you people seem to enjoy it{criticising him}, and you are never on his side. I mean never. read the post of Sean today 5 30, that is supporters' angle. we were robbed 2 points, and your biggest problem is OUR player got away without a red...
ReplyDeleteJust looked again. What I see is that he is trying lo lift his foot off his ankle...
ReplyDelete'its fact' - I never said it wasn't a fact, just to make it clear for you
ReplyDelete'people who dont like facts...bla bla bla bla' - thats nice(!) and? what has that got to do with the point of my reply, which is what has that so-called fact go to do with what is being debated here?
secondly, I am not a Everton fan, so you can shove your usual verbal diarrhea where the sun don't shine
I did not say they couldn't. I don't though
ReplyDeleteWell to be fair, this article is about Suarez, so shock, horror, Mitzu makes a comment in relation to Suarez.
ReplyDeleteLFC no.7 has a long way to go before deserving any respect. Personally I blame the Dutch FA for not ridding everyone of his antics by giving him a life ban for his cannabalistic tendencies. He'll never get out alive if he ever sets foot on the African continent again. I'm off to Accra in January if he wants to join me.
ReplyDeleteDid you notice that Liverpool committed more fouls (16 v 18) and the gap only closed in the last few minutes, so it seems that Liverpool were the more physical team
ReplyDeleteGlad to see you've stopped shouting :)
ReplyDeleteI certainly wasn't near professional level, but a couple of steps higher than "playing SPOT against the garden walll" as Mikearms accused the other poster of being.
My opinion of reasonable level will differ from yours (and others'), just like my opinion of what is acceptable behaviour from a highly skilled and very well paid professional footballer on a pitch representing my club will differ from yours.
Everyone is entitled to their opinion, even Blues and if theirs differ from mine, I don't feel the need to insult or mock them.
I'll repeat what I put in another comment, we used to have a reputation as knowledgeable and fair fans ... and as other posters have commented, LFC is trying to rebuild an image that was, in my opinion, badly damaged last year (and Suarez was a part of that) and some of the comments I see from so called fans on some forums don't help us to get back the reputation we had.
Being honest and accepting when stuff like Suarez did yesterday is not acceptable shouldn't be seen as a weakness ... in fact most neutral football supporters would think it a strength.
god i didnt think it would be long before ur 1st team was mentioned
ReplyDeleteI never said you did. My point was based on the legitimacy (obviously I don't mean in the strict legal sense) of a person having an opinion on what is right or wrong (brought about by your line of 'who am I....').
ReplyDeleteThough I do disagree with your line of 'if you don't like it, don't watch it (not a exact quote but same effect I think) in another post above to Mitzu. Just because Mitzu dislikes odious behaviour, doesn't mean he shouldn't watch the game.
Are once-great clubs to be treated differently to championship mid table clubs ?
ReplyDeleteBut the comment is ALWAYS negative... And I think that it, shock, horror, shouldn't be...
ReplyDeleteAnd the comment is ALWAYS negative... And I think that it, shock, horror, shouldn't be..
ReplyDeleteWhy are you bringing in his alleged nationality into this? Like you have proven with your comments on this thread, idiocy isn't restricted to nationalities
ReplyDelete1. yes, at least for allowing it to perpetuate.
ReplyDelete2. yes
wont that make u bankrupt if we go down then!! no more derbys at woodison.
ReplyDeleteSo did you ask Barnsey then, on what 'RATIONAL' mentions?
ReplyDeleteNo club should be treated differently, but there is a difference in treatment from the ref in a game between Brighton and manu. And Liverpool has been treated like Brighton all season, and our opponents like manu. I think you could've guessed what I wanted to say... And we will be great again, in spite of all.
ReplyDeletevery corinthian post rob.not going to happen through mate
ReplyDeleteLooks like Ghanaians hold grudges nearly as long as Evertonians then...... ;)
ReplyDeleteThanks for the "Mnrderers" songs btw.
Are you referring to Liverpool, or Everton?
ReplyDeletetake a powder will u . we get it about norway etc just havin a crac and banter u bitter and twisted bluenose .it that better
ReplyDeleteAnd it's ALWAYS negative. And I think that it, shock, horror, shouldn't be...
ReplyDeleteYou'll just never get over the Evra incident. You were obviously hugely offended, and will never be able to let it go.
ReplyDeleteUnfortunately the rest of us are not quite so precious, and like to watch him play. He is a genius. Flawed, but a genius none the less.
Perhaps you could fnck off elsewhere too? Just a thought.
How's the weather in Norway by the way?
ReplyDeletereplying to originalchan: And it is ALWAYS negative. And I think that it, shock, horror shouldn't be...
ReplyDeletewhy is this post waiting for approval?
about the same as wales ha ha
ReplyDeleteWasn't there a burning cross on the Gwladys Street the day Alex Chamberlain was in goal for Man City?
ReplyDeleteOr were they just trying to keep warm?
Quality rant by Stevie G Laa in Red Echo. Better football played by LFC who were only team wanting to win the game - shows he is well past his sell by date. Stats all show LFC were the long ball team. Get over it and look on the bright side - you're only 4 Points off 8th now.
ReplyDeleteWhy is my reply to OriginalChan waiting for approval? It is perfectly decent...
ReplyDeletePartly cloudy, 3 degrees C, but the 13km northerly wind is making it feel more like Zero degrees. Should be a bit warmer tomorrow, but there is a chance of rain.
ReplyDeleteHow's the weather in "We pretended to show solidarity for the 96, but as soon as it became apparent we probably wouldn't win our cup final, we forgot all that and reverted back to type with a selection of 'mnrderers' and 'It's never you fault' songs - ville" ???!!
and booked himself 3 times then hey. he didnt make a howler that nite dh walked across the keeper when he took the kick and was only about 6 yards away when the ballhit him not the required 10 yards as stated in the laws of the game. if he was 10 yards away and the ball struck him and he dissallowed it he would have made a howler .but poll got away with it .cos i think hed took is eye off the kick and guessed the decision .which in law was right
ReplyDeleteI disagree with nearly everything you have ever written on this site, but this time I think you are spot on.
ReplyDelete"It's never your fault" isn't about Hillsborough. It's about how... well, nothing is ever your fault. Look at this very example - Suarez stamps down twice in one game, but it's not his fault. He's collared with bang to rights racism - it's not his fault. Or he dives - repeatedly. But it's not his fault.
ReplyDeleteAnd you're always acting the victim. Alex Ferguson owns the FA, it's a conspiracy, the refs hate us, Howard Webb, etc. etc.
And as for the "Murderers" chant, you might want to look up the Heysel stadium disaster. I assume you chased the Juve fans to give them a hug?
By the way, accusing your fellow Scousers of singing songs about Hillsborough is what is really vile. Sick, in fact. You should know better and be ashamed of making that accusation as it takes two brain cells to rub together to understand why we wouldn't. But you won't be ashamed. You know why?
Because you're always the victim, it's never your fault. Outraged by everything, ashamed of nothing.
Ok.
ReplyDeleteYou should be ashamed of yourself, along with all those other Suarez apologists...
ReplyDeleteFact is i bet IF Suarez was playing for a rival Club you would be jumping up and down and highlighting what a **** he is....
Can you not see how hypocritical that is?
Obviously not...
The murderers chants ( although I don't agree with them personally) has nothing to do with Hillsborough....it's aimed at the fact that 39 italians were killed at a football match by rioting Liverpool fans.fact..... the always the victims song is sung at your fans for having the percieved view that he world and his dog are against you and , as the song states, it's never your fault. Reds and Blues alike lost friends and family on tat awful day at Hillsborough so to even suggest that blues sing that song in reference to that day is sick.
ReplyDeleteSo your opinion is in no way bias ?. Christ for you to even compare either of those tackles to Robert huth stamp show's your desperation. The first tackle is a yellow card at best and the second is in no way deliberate.
ReplyDeleteLol, here we go again...
ReplyDeleteI give up, your right, i am just hugely offended by Suarez blah blah blah, its always the same line of attack, blame it on said person's character etc or question their loyalty to the Club, just because i have an opinion about the Club i have followed for many many years, Hamann is spot on, why the fcuk do people get so defensive re Suarez? If this was TIA i would have been clusterfcuked and probably banned for having this opinion, along with Jamie and half of this forum... :-)
Let me just put this in laymen's terms so you can understand i will not defend a player at LFC when he is behaving badly no matter who he is...
Get it now? That way i can freely criticise other players who i judge by the same standard's, STANDARDS something LFC used to have in abundance...
well what the f**k are u .u refair to your captains book meanin sg then state your not ablue .i think you get in the real world u sound like ur on a one man crusade to clean up football .shit happens in footy and has done for the last 50 years. so get used to it.footy aint corinthan no more.its a man game with bad tackles etc .part and parcel.ur should have sampled the lpool sunday lge in the 70 s like i did and then u wouldn t comment like a pussy
ReplyDeleteI don't know, I don't follow his posts in such detail to know whether his posts about Suarez is always negative. But in a negative article about Suarez, Mitzu's negative comment is hardly out of place. I don't see the big deal but then again, I am looking at it in isolation, instead of knowing Mitzu's full history behind it.
ReplyDeleteAnyhoo, JK, why was Orme's comment in moderation? Some mean moderation filter! Seems harmless his/her post, unless it has been changed.
Poll's reason at the time for disallowing the goal was because it was full time. There was a minimum of 2 mins added but there was still some seconds of injury time to go. Hutchinson was not ten yards away but he had is back to the ball and was walking away. Not sure what the ruling on that would be.
ReplyDeleteI didnt see any Everton players make any really bad fouls like the 2 Suarez made, and you say Everton Rugby Club.
ReplyDeleteNah, that is just childish crap, not banter.
ReplyDeletedoesnt matter a player has to retire 10 yards from ball .poll got lucky .
ReplyDeleteTotally agree with your points here, Mitzsu. The reason people get defensive is because they prioritise the individual over the club, which is ridiculous considering one of the fundamental principles of LFC is 'no one is bigger than the club', something that's been endlessly hammered home by the likes of Shankly, Paisley et al over the years.
ReplyDeleteAs a result of sycophantic fans and enabling managers like Dalglish, and now Rodgers, Suarez *is* bigger than the club, and the proof of that is that he can what the hell he likes without any kind of censure.
David Moyes publicly slammed Phil Neville for diving, and Neville himself admitted it and apologised in a post match interview. Would Suarez ever do that? Have Rodgers or Dalglish ever admitted that Suarez dived?
No, and that stubborn defiance is a massive problem, and it's part of the reason LFC and Suarez get such a hard time these days.
The club lacks humility, and I genuinely believed Rodgers would be the man to bring that quality back to LFC. He talks a good game, but when it comes to the crunch, he's just the same as Dalglish when it comes to handling Suarez, and that is not good for the reputation of the club.
The ridiculous victim complex perpetuated by Dalglish, and now Rodgers, is an embarrassment, and the sooner it is laid to rest, the better.
spot on jim. throwin coins etc. at least luis got a 2 pound goal bounus
ReplyDeleteand ur groundmans got a decent weeks wages pickin the pound coins up off the pitch what a bunch of w***ers u lot are
ReplyDeleteGet over it Orme, i've already stated that i take no satisfaction from having to criticise a Liverpool player, you can spin it any which way you want, but IMO you are in denial so any critique of Luis by anyone esp a LFC fan see's you on the defensive straight away...
ReplyDeleteYes, AFTER he nearly breaks it...
ReplyDeleteBollocks, i have countless times posted what a gifted footballer Suarez is....
ReplyDeleteShame he can't sort out his issue's really, so we could just focus on what a marvellous and positive minded player he is...
Oh yeah, i forgot Suarez is never negative....its only people like me who write negative stuff about him...
I don't think so.
why dont u go and join the green party cos u borin the tits of me . pc correct this pc correct that .u would put a glass to sleep
ReplyDeletemissed out EYE
ReplyDeleteI've given up trying to figure out how the word filter works! Orme's comment should be live now.
ReplyDeleteHaha. There's some comedy gold on this thread. Nice one :-)
ReplyDeleteIt's live now. Word filter. You can read about it on the right hand side of the screen (scroll up a bit)
ReplyDeleteNaah, the games we'll play against the top European sides in the CL will make up for you !
ReplyDeletejust statin facts or the fact that one of everton biggest role models got put in jail for butting a player.just to point out some people have short memories
ReplyDeleteI agree, esp the bit about the club lacking humility, like you i thought BR would want to assert himself more re certain players, its like he is afraid to upset the apple cart.
ReplyDeleteVery tricky situation to deal with though, Suarez (as we know) seems to have the fanbase by the short and curlies...
Couldn't have put it better myself !! LOVE IT !!
ReplyDeleteSterling should have been yellow carded for that second tackle but he never should have been given the first card. Terribly inconsistent referring all match. Cards were given for tackles that hardly deserved them and not for tackles that were much worse. The tackle on Mirallas definitely looks deliberate there is no doubt about that. The Distin one could really be either way. Only Suarez really knows if he did it on purpose. I thought his celebration in front of Moyes was great. Moyes publicly slated him so he was getting his own back. Despite Moyes being correct or not Suarez did nothing wrong with his celebration and even Moyes stated it would be something he himself would have done.
ReplyDeleteerm there are plenty of football clubs to support, not just Everton or LFC. You don't have to be a fan of either club to make a comment about them. Don't know what you are waffling on about with that one man crusade crap, it is like you are having a pop for the sake having a pop because you got made to look foolish, instead of making a decent meaningful riposte. As I am simply making a criticism of your stupid bananas post, not some bloody thesis to clean up football as part of some masters degree. Laughable crap, that crusade line.
ReplyDeleteYou throw in the 'corinthian' word so casually, it doesn't even belong. It means something elegant (assuming that is the version you are using), yet you imply the 70s was more manly and 'ard than it is now with your holier-than-thou sunday league waffle. I couldn't give a monkeys about the bloody 1970s, as we are in the 2010s. Might be the same rules mostly but boy are they interpreted differently, culture and society is different too. Its about the here and now, not your young days.
Still haven't heard back on wtf your initial bananas post have got to do with the point of this thread, as that is what made me reply to you in the first place, yet you keep on evading that with some irrelevant verbal diarrhea. Again, I prompt you: wtf has Barnsey & bananas from two decades ago got do to with this thread
jk any chance of banning LO off the site for being the most boring person in the world!!!
ReplyDeleteSome fair comments Jamie. Does this mean you are no longer 100% behind Rodgers?
ReplyDeleteThe real comedy gold JK was when Stevie G Laaa was still sliding on his knees after a 60 yard dash to celebrate the 'goal' that was ruled out cos Sewerez' teeth were offside ! He only realised when Baines was just about to go past him !! Quality ! I don't think many reds will have seen it tho' as the TV's in the pubs didn't catch it !
ReplyDeleteI never questioned your loyalty to the club, nor was I attacking you.
ReplyDeleteHamann isn't "spot on" - Suarez "could have" been sent off, not "should" have.
There is nothing to defend, because Suarez simply mistimed a couple of tackles.
And these STANDARDS presumably used to include Jan Molby drink-driving, Souness showing his studs, Tommy Smith ignoring the ball, Jimmy Case and Ray Kennedy getting pissed up and threatening people, Terry McDermott handling on the line in a Cup Final (the whole of fncking Ghana would have lynched HIM), Robbie Fowler showing his arse to the Guardian reader, Stephane Henchoz handling the ball more times than Westerveld (the CHEAT), Steve McMahon elbowing Fat Gazza in the nose at White Hart Lane (ha), David Speedie 'accidentally' running to the Everton section when he scored in the Derby, Paul Walsh punching Kevin Bond at the Dell (!!!) and even Kenny Dalglish 'doing' Remi Moses at Old Trafford...
Presumably your opinion of all these LFC greats was forever tainted too?
Get off your high horse Mitzsu. You don't like Suarez because he called a Black Man a Black.
Let it go.
Saying your so-called banter is a load of childish cack has little to do with being PC-minded, it has a lot to do with it simply being cack. If I'm boring the tits off you, don't reply. Not hard. Stay...away...from...the.....reply....button.
ReplyDeleteYeh Mitzu, listen to Jim G as he knows what you meant better than you do. And he knows for sure that Suarez simply mistimed those tackles as well as he isn't attacking you, even though he is still at it. Let it go Mitzu. Ah f**k it Mitzu, don't speak anymore, just let Jim G speak for you as knows you inside out(!)
ReplyDeleteJim G is God, he knows and understands us better than ourselves(!)
So the Park End is now presumably predominantly Out-of-Towners, then?
ReplyDeleteI didn't mention Hillsborough. I just said that when a red smoke bomb went off, the "Non-Scouse" Home Section couldn't wait to start their usual repertoire. So why are you associating the songs with Hillsborough?
Yep, Everton are the only club to have skeletons in the cupboard(!)
ReplyDeleteAww, thanks billythecat for your information which is.....irrelevant.
We are here to talk about Suarez.
But Evertonians are well aware of how that song is PERCEIVED by Liverpool fans.
ReplyDeleteSurely it is more sick to sing the song, than to be angry and upset by it?
Or is that not YOUR fault?
Forgot to add that it's a bit hypocritical of a Blue to label a Red a "victim" when you can still make an arl fella froth at the mouth simply by saying "Clive Thomas"........
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Yes, i guess your right, i should know better really, Jim G is indeed omniscient and already knows what we are thinking before we even think it! but fcuk it i'll just tackle him one last time just in case he isn't all seeing and the like :-)
ReplyDeleteWhy so serious? , after Moyes had called him a diver how do you think he is going to celebrate scoring a goal ,I thought it was kick- ass!
ReplyDeletethanks for war and peace now for some bullet points there are no rules in football. there are 17 laws .if you get the pink on a sat u will find football on mersyside is covered from local football to semi pro by corinthian.which means the game played in a corinthian spirit .my point about jb was a crack about the blues being a club regarded as a racist club in the 70 s and 80 s .may be if you lived here u might develop a sense of humour. but i do give a f**k about the 60 s the 70S And the 80 s to the present time cos thats when i supported lfc for the 1st time . history lesson over .
ReplyDeleteThe difference between Suarez and those players you list is that they were not considered dirty players....
ReplyDeleteThey were not repeat offenders either, Suarez seems to have all the negative traits of nearly all of those ex players you listed, rolled into one cute little lovable Luis Suarez package..
And yet again, you casually and cooly dismiss his antics as if they were just minor and largely unintentional issue's which we shouldn't be bothered about in the slightest...
Your advice to just "let it go" is falling on deaf ears Jim, i won't stop criticising Suarez until he stops behaving like a ****.
an sure shamrock rovers will sort u out over 2 legs !!
ReplyDeletephoned him before spoke to his missus he out havin a pint with luis will speak 2 moro
ReplyDelete'war and peace' - Ah your great humour at work again, as humourous your crap, I mean crac. If that is what you call humour, I don't want no part in that crap.
ReplyDelete'law' can be a synonym for 'rule'. To say there are no rules, but laws, is being picky and anal....and somewhat, in a way, PC funnily enough, a term you seem to love.
I couldn't give a monkeys if it was crac or crap, it is irrelevant here.
Fine, you mean corinthian in the sense that it is 'high standard of sportsmanship'. The point I made about your wishy-washy attempts at using it still stands.
Harping on about the 70s in the context of this thread makes no sense. If this was a history thread, you might for once have some relevant need to talk about the 70s but it isn't. So yet again, thanks for posting a load of irrelevant crap.
and you have the nerve to tell others to get a sense of humour, when you come out with this crap, i mean hilarious riposte. Amazing.
ReplyDeleteAs a Liverpool fan I agree that Suarez could've been sent off and probably should've of and yes Suarez did dive against Stoke and again I will not condone that dive, I still believe that when it comes to so called cheating we need to look at the bigger issue diving, grabbing someone shirts, deliberate fouls, technically you could say Everton were cheating when they claimed our third goal was offside which it was not.
ReplyDeleteSo rather than just blaming Suarez for everything we all need to take a look at ourselves as fans players and clubs and ask is this the way we wont to play the beautiful game that is football.
We also need to look at the standard of our referees, how many time has a player stayed on his feet for the foul not to be given, where is the incentive for the player running away from goal to stay on his feet.
How many times have you seen a defender crumble to the ground because he was barely touched but nearly always gets a free kick, however if a striker goes down he is a cheat?
Diving is not a new thing it has being going on for decades so if want to start coming down on diving then you have to look at all forms of cheating and start telling refs too that if a player is fouled but doesnt fall to the ground that you should call the play back and give a free kick/pen.
No one has mentioned evertons quick free kick that the ref pulled back which would have been a goal with 2 onto the GK and 10mins later Liverpool done a quick freekick in a similar attacking position that was allowed to continue. The stats all favour Everton but All in all a draw was prob a fair result.
ReplyDeleteYou make some interesting points but Suarez has become all the Ref's in the PL's worst nightmare IMO they will now dread every game where they will have to keep a VERY close eye on his antics...a wrong call either way will see them heavily criticised...
ReplyDeleteIm pretty sure that its tough enough as it is being a Ref what with all the diving etc but Suarez has taken it to a whole new level, as it stands each Ref will have their own opinion on Suarez and his many talented ways of gaining an advantage during a game, some will see him in a more favourable and generous light other's won't, fact remains, he is a repeat offender, we all know that, he even said he would cheat again himself publically...
There will be many many people waiting for him to take it just that one step too far, and im sure he won't dissapoint either as it seems that he has a free reign to do what he wants regardless of how it might affect the club's profile...
maybe if you got a decent ground that could host a decent number of away fans we wouldn t have to watch it on the telly.should have moved to kirkby or the kings dock .better idea instead of throwing money at players why dont you put your money into a new ground scheme
ReplyDeletenov 5th massive fire at woodison. fire fighters have said the cups are ok the fire never reached the canteen
ReplyDeleteGood to hear LFC fans singing the name of Dogleash despite him peeing£150m up a wall. Also funny to hear Stevie G Laa slating Phil Neville a couple of years after he ensured Pienaar was sent off by holding his face in agony when there had been no contact. From the top to the bottom LFC is a club of whingers which is rife with double standards. Just a cheap American franchise. Go reds.
ReplyDeleteAll this lad needs is to enjoy his football again,players like him, need players like him.2 trikers,of like ability (less all the drama)on a decent long term,specially with rest of team starting to gell,i'de give it shot.
ReplyDeleteIt's a shame really because personally as a Liverpool fan i thought he could have been send off for the foul on Distin, and Suarez is such a world class player that i believe the sooner he irons out the negatives in his game the better it is, or we will be ridiculed all over the football world.But i can understand when you get fouled and not protected as Suarez does it tends to get to you and you do something really foolish. Come on Suarez just play the game and enough of these silly things .
ReplyDeleteGive your head a wobble lad, you are completely wrong, all evidence is 3 scrolls above you, Suarez is a Snide, accept it and move on. He has deliberatley tried to injure two players there, and its only luck that has prevented Distin from being quite seriously injured. Suarez will get his comeuppance, trust me on that, and it will not be for the benefit of LFC when he does.
ReplyDeleteIn other news, Lee Cattermole has just extended his contract.
In fainess pal, the turf lifted cause he put more pressure on his trailing foot to catch Distin. If it was a slip, the turf would of gathered at the toe of his boots. There is no doubt in my mind whatsoever he meant it. This is going off experience, and as SHOULD be done, the reputation he has got himself. If you, as a club want respect from the outside world, respoect that you have lost in huge amounts over the last 2 years, then just own up rather than blindly follow where Suarez leads, he'll only do you harm.
ReplyDeleteYou sir are an idiot. Miralles may have fouled a couple of times or whatever but he didnt go out to injure a player.
ReplyDeleteWhat a load of twaddle!
ReplyDeletePlease, Moyes only criticised neville when he was questioned. Before the game he couldn't stop talking about Suarez diving and how hes driving fans away from the game. Has he spoken that way about Neville? So according to Moyes it's worse for Suarez to dive than for Neville.
ReplyDeleteMitzu you obviously hate cricket and rugby as well, where cheating is rife
ReplyDeleteDo you not think that the real problem is that Suarez is running around like a red-arsed fly, trying to do everything, and getting more and more frustrated? Whilst some of the other players are strolling through games and don't appear to be that fussed?
ReplyDeleteSuarez should never have even been in that position to tackle Mirallas; it should have been up to Wisdom, Suso or Sahin.
Gerrard was the same when he first came into the team - two footed lunges, always had his 'mad head' on, but he learned to control and channel the aggression.
If Suarez is such a bad lad, why didn't he go ape-shit when the 'winner' was disallowed? He just laughed, even though he knew he had been done.
No, Mitzu just agrees with whatever Jaimie says. Look at their respective opinions. Almost down to the tee Mitzu is anti the exact same players that Jaimie is. I can imagine Mitzu every game hoping Suarez, Reina etc fail
ReplyDeleteBlinkered unsportsmanlike and verging on childish attitude. Have you any idea how your club is being perceived these days? Credit to those comments from both sides that actually dare to be honest about things. If LFC carry on like this it'll be a case of YNWA = you'll Never Win Anything.
ReplyDeleteEven someone like Suarez knows not to go mad at every single mistake/incident. Doesn't mean he is Gandhi all of a sudden, just because he decides not to go mad on occasions.
ReplyDeleteWhere does Mitzu say, in that post, he hates football? Once again, just because one dislikes a particular aspect of something, doesn't mean they dislike the whole thing. Not sure how match his criticism of Suarez to him disliking football.
ReplyDeleteHe never said he would "cheat" again, those are your words. Stop deliberately misrepresenting him just to further your agenda.
ReplyDeleteTypical anti Suarez nonsense. Slate him every time he does something wrong, when he shows restraint just poretend it never happened
ReplyDeleteRather odd way of trying to calculate Moyes alleged opinion on diviing by Suarez and Neville. A pre-match comment and a post-match comment are in different circumstances and of different motivations.
ReplyDeleteIf a deliberate handball is cheating, than Mitzu might have a point as Suarez did say, implicitly or explicitly, he would do it again.
ReplyDeleteJeez. Read. I never said or implied that he didn't show restraint.
ReplyDeleteha! nice try
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