29 April 2012

Benitez vs. Guardiola: Who would you prefer as the next LFC manager...?

As a recent survey on this site illustrated, there are many fans out there would happily see Kenny Dalglish sacked *before* the end of the season if it meant an immediate return for revered former manager Rafa Benitez. Clearly, Benitez still retains massive support amongst the fanbase, but if it was a straight choice between Rafa and fellow Spaniard Pep Guardiola, who would get the nod from fans?

The following question was posed in the aforementioned survey:

If there was an option to sack Dalglish with immediate effect and replace him with Benitez, would you support that change?

* Almost 4000 fans voted.

* 70% voted in favour of Dalglish being sacked before the end of the season to make way for Benitez.

Benitez is obviously popular amongst fans, but could he do a better job than Guardiola? The double-Champions league winner has enjoyed phenomenal success with Barcelona but he announced on Friday that he plans to leave the Catalans at the end of the season.

If it came down to a straight choice between Guardiola and Benitez for the Liverpool job, who would get your vote?



Jaimie Kanwar

116 comments:

  1. I prefer Kenny Dalglish stupid bollock

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  2. 70% out of 4000 Benitez fans, Pathetic Jamie. Do you know the Global fan base in numbers?

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  3. Why is Dalglish not an option?

    Dalglish for me

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  4. I was a massive fan of Rafa and he never should have been given the chop when he did. But, he did and you can never go back. Give Dalglish another season to show he knows what he's about. If it doesn't work, then by all means i think he knows himself that he should step down.

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  5. You clearly know nothing about conducting surveys. Tell me: when the Government conducts a survey, do they interview every single person in a country?! No. Does that make the results less relevant? No.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sample_size

    Educate yourself.

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  6. Is the survey about Dalglish? No, so why would he be an option.

    Also, this is your final warning: if you continue to snipe and hurl insults (as you have in several comments I've deleted over the weekend), you will be permanently banned.

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  7. To be fair I reckon Rafa is the best choice but apparently I reckon FSG will not consider him to be the best option as his total control of transfers etc. I would love Rafa to be given 50 million and come back to restore our hope of getting into the champions league the minimum. I dont think pep will be the right choice as he needs a break from football for a few months or up to a year. 

    Lets be honest guys it doesnt matter who has the most medals, success or etc the main thing rafa knew with the wrong management is that he can guide teams into champions league year in and out. Ok people will judge his last season but he was having war from day one with boardroom and no help at all and I reckon it took its toll in the last season. I understand its a pressure environment but sometimes you need that tap on the back from the top and I think he never got anything. 

    Image rafa with the money kenny got. I am sure he would have atleast invested in maybe 2 bad players but the rest might have all been atleast better technically and a wow player atleast. Rafa may have bought downing but atleast with rafa he would have got the boy scoring more and assisting more. Just check out rafa's analysis on his website. rafabenetiz.com

    If the only option was not rafa or pep then we can try Jurgen Klopp or Marcelo Bielsa who currently manage borussia dortmund and athletico bilbao. Unproven but worth a shot

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  8. This is a veeeery interesting question. I can honestly say that if dalgish was replaced by benitez today it would be a sort of bittersweet moment, but i would like to see rafa return to Liverpool as manager more than any other available. But if guardiola is thrown into the mix it becomes a very tough decision.

    First of all i would love Guardiola to come in as lfc boss, his record is amazing, he can handle pressure, the media, he knows howto win and most importantly he is a motivator as well as a good tactician which is a trademark of a great manager. i don't believe in all the talk people come up with claiming he couldn't replicate his success elsewhere.

    Where the appointment would worry me is that i feel our next manager needs to be long term, to provide the stability that Wenger and Ferguson offer to their respective clubs and i see Guardiola as man who wants to take on challenges and conquer the top leagues before returning home to Barcelona.

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  9. Kenny will step down when he knows that he can't help. He is that type of person. That type of person is hard to find these day's. I believe in the King. He will do better and if we do win the FA cup then this has been and outstanding first year for the one and only KING in football.

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  10. On the one hand, it's a very difficult question. Guardiola achieved some fantastic success, but with significant budget support and with an entirely different league, while Benitez had less trophies at Liverpool, but was budget-constrained compared to the former, and has the ability to beat significantly better teams while having to field inferior players.

    On the other hand, Guardiola has stated he's going to take a break, so our next manager will probably be appointed before he's back. And if the only option is bringing back Benitez, I'd definitely support it. Benitez+Clarke+Kean should be a very good combination of tactical minds.

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  11. Between the two it's got to be Guardiola. Produced the best club side I've ever seen.

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  12. As much as I respect and admire Guardiola as a manager, Benitez knows Liverpool's way and proven himself that he is capable to attain success outside Spain. Everyone deserves a second chance, Kenny got his chance. Worst run of league results for 59 years, worst point tally in 10 years, worst goal scoring record in 10 years. Benitez should get his chance too. I still believe he has unfinished business in Liverpool.

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  13. what about giving kenny time? lets be honest he inherited a team with average players, yes he overspent on british talent and aside from our finishing this season our performances have not been as woeful as the media have put out. Work in progress give him time. Ps Guardiola spent how much to assemble barcelona? Take Messi out of that team how much would they have won. If Kenny fails this year then yes Benitez would be my choice. Proven winner with very little funds. 

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  14. A forum is a meeting place for open debate ikf what ive said above is  deemed as a snipe or insult??? then ban away...LOL

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  15. REAL LIVERPOOL FAN youre a joke Bristol City fan Kanwar and us scousers are getting sick of you!

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  16. watch out you'll get banned for that comment!

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  17. Instead of going on about sacking managers after a year, how about we give him another season? (We're not Chelsea, remember?)

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  18. DALGLISH!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  19. Suarezsympathiser3:30 p.m., April 29, 2012

    Difficult to understand why after such a superb display at the weekend such a negative article appears re:KD (Indirectly) How many managers have guided their team to two domestic cup finals in their first full season!
    Admittedly mistakes have been made this season, however some superb footballing displays have been produced and the footballing ethic has been restored! This is a team in progress and KD whilst making some occassional strange decisions has a right to another season at the least! It would be suprising but welcome to see some positive articles about KD!!!!

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  20.  Well im starting to think that chelsea are right to sack managers if they are not performing it shows that they have standards I for one do not want us to take a HUGE risk by giving a manager that has guided us to our worst finish in 50 years we are loyal enough to let him finish the season it would be plain stupid to let him go on

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  21. Like Dalglish says "If WE (LIVERPOOL FANS) all stick together the we wont go far wrong".

    I can't agree with anything written on here because patience is the only way we'll get back to the very top!

    SNIPING at the manager is not THE LIVERPOOL WAY

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  22. I would pick guardiola all day long but who would you pickk??

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  23. fuck off jaemi
    i hate you
    you are a man utd fan
    i hate u

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  24. You really have an anti-Kenny agenda don't you! 

    Most of your opinions and articles are against the majority of the fans. 

    I've said it before, you're just like Fat Dunc on KrapTalk!!

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  25. lets start a petition to ignore this Jaimie Kanwar, always negative. Sounds a pr1ck

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  26. I seriously think giving the man another season will offically make liverpool FC into a middle table club if we are not already the only reason he may even deserve another season is because of his past take that away and people would be calling for his head

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  27. A an ountanding first season that might see us finish below everton and maybe not even in the top 10 yeah great best ever season

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  28. lool your treading a thin line my friend if you haven't already this will piss jaimie off 

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  29. These are not surveys. They are just a certain amount of fans being asked a preference. It is all in fun.As a mathematician I can simply say that surveys are an extremely complicated equation and entail much thought and process.

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  30. Hate to say this but you did go back. Dalglish was also a previous manager you know.

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  31. Even Benitez would have success with the Barcelona squad.
    The choice is a manager who had his chance and failed or a manager who won't stay more than three years and bails after a difficult (by Barcelona standards) season?
    You can keep 'em both.

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  32. i believe that too (unfinished business), benitez is a world class manager but not only that, he actually loves and respects liverpool football club. i hope that he gets a second chance with our new ambitious owners and i can see happy days ahead

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  33. it doesnt matter really cause guardiola wont be coming. the debate is interesting though. i wonder how  Peps brand of football would fair in the prem league. i think it would fail its too pretty pretty and might not stand up to our tougher style. Wengers pass pass and pass again is great to watch but hasnt won much in recent times. IF and its a big if Dalglish does go i would like to see Rafa come back with Pako and Carra made assistant managers with a view to Carra becoming the next manager.

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  34. You didn't see the press conference then? He jacked it in BECAUSE of the pressure and he doesn't want to be anywhere for more than three years.
    He didn't 'build' the squad, by the way, he inherited it. If anything, our reserve team coach had a bigger influence on assembling their squad.

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  35. Jk just think if Rafa did comeback you could retire and just reproduce all the anti rafa articles you have done before !!!!

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  36. for me someone not qualified to be manager in the whole if;-
    1) sub player at the most 70min game played
    2) not have spirit to decide match.. if player not perform dalglish & benitez never change that player before 70min game played
    3) never give a youth player change. only give youth player change when 1st team player get injured

    look at maurinho or guardiola;-
    1) change even a star player in 1st half if player below par
    2) can develop a youth player into a 1st team player.. look at pedro, basquet, callejon & antonio adan...have a change to play 

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  37. It is true that it is the result that makes this guy disagree with the polling, but that every fan isn't interviewed does make the results less relevant.

    I obviously know you can't ask EVERYONE, but a smaller sample size means your faith in its results should shrink accordingly.

    4000 is good numbers for an internet site though.

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  38. You can never go back? Isn't that exactly what we've done with Dalglish?

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  39. World class manager eh?? If that's the truth then how do sum up his 6 month destruction of inter Milan a team that had just won the treble the previous season?? World class applies to many things but not rafael Benitez!!

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  40. Kenny got his chance?? 18 months is not a chance and not how this football club should be run. Rafa got 6 years so therefore I and many more am sure think that is what you call getting a chance!!

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  41. Aye, we have had two decades of being patient, whats a little more time eh

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  42. Wow as you seem to imply Clarke has a good tactical mind, do you know first hand of Clarke's tactical knowledge? Please share, as it would be genuinely interesting

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  43. You should be ashamed, Pep, for playing with Messi(!)

    One can only judge what they have seen, not what they haven't seen. 'Ifs' and 'buts' about being without Messi are just futile

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  44. Pro-red-living-in-the-now5:17 p.m., April 29, 2012

    herehere redredman, can we cast a vote to sack Jaimie 'Im actually a manc' Kanwar. 

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  45. What I am talking about is second chance. For the first 6 months of Kenny's reign, he shown us the signs of revival. But then, this season can be described as far from a progress. In fact, it is a retrogression. It is a major disappointment. I don't expect immediate success but certainly retrogression is utterly unacceptable especially considering the fact that we had spent so much money on getting players. Most importantly, his signings, his team selections, his tactics are always baffling and I think we all can agree that none of them work as planned. I appreciate his efforts and courage to come back Liverpool, his past success is remarkable indeed. But I'm not really sure whether he is the right man to guide us forward anymore.

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  46. Most of what we write here and on other forums and websites we can't know first hand, it's just talk (and sometimes speculation) about what we see, read and hear. Otherwise, only club representatives, managers and agents would be posting on the internet.

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  47. if we beat chelski fair and square next week end then i think kenny should be given another season possibly.
    but if not raffa for me

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  48. He bought average players you shmuck!

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  49. Ya Pep is the king!

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  50.  Rafa won CL & 5th in table in his 1st season(Don't have 100+millions to spent). For your information 5th is better than 8th place(if you don't know). Oh yes we won carling cup & maybe fa cup but you know what, they still cannot match CL trophy that Rafa won.

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  51. If k got six years then by end of it we'd probably be in one of the lower divisions and be playing in fa vase trophy final but that would be fine with some mugs who would class it as winning rather than champions league

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  52. True but with some serious backing financially...something Rafa has never had

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  53. Could not disagree more, if a survey is taken to decide if the BNP is a party for positive social reform, in a BNP stronghold. The result being yes, would not be a reflection of the whole country. Do you agree Mr Kanwar?

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  54. Tight call, really; as Benitez has proven himself at Anfield.

    But why on earth would Guardiola come to LFC?...

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  55. Why do so many fans crave a return of Rafa and think he would do better if he had the money Dalglish has had to spend? Can someone remind me of his record when he went to Inter and inherited a CL and Serie A winning squad and bags of money to spend. Let's not go back again if Dalglish goes.

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  56. Can someone remind me how much he had to spend at Inter Milan? Or how old the players were? Or how many cups did he win there? Or how many players left during summer? Seriously, do some research. Bags of money? you are funny. 

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  57. Here we are , 6 days from our first FA CUP final in 6 years

    And Jamie once again your having a snidy cheap shot at the manager

    Are you really a fan ?

    Jamie how many games do you go to ?

    Rafa served up drivel . Season after season of negative football
    I went to at least 85% of them and I'd despair coming home
    From so many games

    He's one of the greatest PR managers though
    Convincing a whole bunch of LFC fans fourth is success .

    When we win the FA cup On Saturday We will of win 2/3 competitions we were in and you want to replace the manager ?
    Just ridiculous

    Id bet your not even going !

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  58. 3 times to Wembley and 2 finals.....................terrible eh????

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  59. If you don't expect immediate success the why call for Rafa back?? It's only been 18 months lad, we have played every team of the park at anfield except Swansea, we have been extremely unlucky with the woodwork and 8 games without Suarez plus Lucas gone since October was it? Stevie was out and took time to get back into it. Kenny's tactics are far superior to rafa's if you ask me as a Liverpool fan I want to see attacking football in the "Liverpool" tradition and not rafa's counter attack anti-football that disillusioned Torres in the first place!!!!

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  60. "If there was an option to sack DALGLISH with immediate effect and replace him with Benitez, would you support that change?"

    I'm 99.99% sure the survey is about Dalglish. 

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  61. Who would class such a thing as winning??? What is the point of this comment..

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  62. The only problem with Guardiola is IMO that he took over a excellent team and carried on where Rijkard left. A bit like with KD first time round. It would b interesting to c him prove himself in another club. RAFA has proved himself with Valencia breaking up
    RM and Barca that since he left for Liverpool nobody has even came close to wining La Liga again. Winning La Liga twice with Valencia and CHL with Liverpool it's good enough for me. So 4me RAFA BENITEZ. POR SIEMPRE.

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  63. Rafa is also responsible for the ultimate crime, unsettling xabi alonso that alone is unforgivable!!!

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  64. yeah sure iwatched guardiola really change things the other night........what planet are you from mate

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  65. Shut the fu*k up! Kenny Dalglish is the worst manager that Liverpool had in the last decade- facts. Nobody had spent more than 100 mil on players and finished on 8-this says all! He made Liverpool a midtable team, we have the mentality of a small team : score if you can and then stay in defence. THIS IS NOT LIVERPOOL!!! Also we won that poor cup against a championship team at penaltyes after Cardiff players missed most of it. We wont win the FA cause Chelsea is at the moment more better than us. Who the fu*k cares that we have beat them a long time ago? Nobody...Maybe the will have the last laugh, you never know. Even if we”ll won FA or not Kenny has to go, cause I see Liverpool on 7 next year. JUST BRING RAFA BACK. Guardiola is one of the best managers in the world, but he hasnt contact with english footbal. Now we need proven managers and that is Benitez. Bring him back and give him 30 mil funds for transfer. MAybe he”ll buy a good atacking midfielder and a tehnique right wing. 
    4-2-3-1 
    ----------------------Reina--------------------
    Glen-----------Skrtel--------Agger--------Enrique
    -----------------------Lucas--------------------
    ------------------Gerrard-----------------------
    ????-----------------????----------------Downing(maybe)
    ---------------------SUAREZ-------------------------
    Manager Rafa BEnitez. The watch us go back to the top!

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  66. FSG get rafa period!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  67. Guardiola as Manager and Rafa Benitez as Director Of Football

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  68. not even close to champions league, definitely yes!!!

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  69. Agree w gideon. We have been unlucky this year. If we don't make top 4 next year I bet kk will step down. Because he loves this club like we do! Please don't be rash. I think he will get it right. If that doesn't happen, then bring rafa back. Maybe bring him in for that office position now possibly. We know he would get us quality players. Have faith reds. Let's beat the chav scum. Jft96.

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  70. That sentence refers to a previous survey, not the one in question.

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  71. Spurious comparison. When have I ever stated that surveys on this site represent the majority of LFC fans? I always state that it represents the majority of *voting* fans.

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  72. Yes, I look forward to Rafa's return so I can do exactly that.

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  73. Ah ok, I just thought you might know first hand but never mind.

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  74. Jk we both know that you will have to put that retirement on hold. FSG went for the sentimental approach with KD and its fair to say although I am a big supporter it hasnt worked out as we all wanted. They will not go down that road again. it might work with Carra and Pako with him but FSG wont take that chance. If KD goes maybe we will see someone fresh come in Anyone for Rikkard ?  

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  75. good idea, Only if Rafa is willing to stay unemployed for another year...

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  76. Look's like retirement is a long way off!, DALGLISH!!!!!!!!!

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  77. None of the Spaniards is a better manager than Dalglish!!

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  78. because the majority on this site have the same distorted view as JK, if not you get banned as i did.
    I will have to find another computer now as i will be banned again.
    I'll be back

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  79. So you concede that this "survey" does not justify anything? Thanks.

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  80. Definitely Pep over Rafa any day of the week....Makes me laugh how many posters veer off track during these debates and start chatting whatever they like without even addressing the topic...LOL.

    Anyway, back on track :) I just wouldn't want to see Rafa's defensive and quite negative football again, people seem to forget how damn right boring we used to be under Rafa.....at least Kenny has tried to take off the shackles and let the players go forward.....

    Pep would be ideal as a follow on from Kenny in theory.... both managers like to attack, bot managers are adovates of the pass and move football yet Pep has for sure taken it to a different level altogether at Barcelona, some of the football played their has been simply mesmerising......

    How much of that is due to his timing and arrival at the Club and choce of players such as Messi etc is debateable.....

    I must admit that he certainly appeals as an ideal candidate should we replace Kenny BUT im not so convinced that his accomplishment at Barca was mainly of his own doing......

    Its a little bit like Mateo at Chelsea.......walks into the job good timing being a key factor IMO, strong squad of players with a few world class one's.....gets off to a positive start and things just seem to click for them.....i think the same could be said of Rafa also.....walked in at a good time.....things started to click....went on a nice run in the CL....and bobs your uncle...we win a major trophy....lucky??? Or genius???

    I think a lot is down to luck tbh, timing is everything in life as it is in football.....

    How good these managers REALLY are....only time will tell i guess, personally Rafa had plenty of time after his nice run of luck.....he nearly fucked it up in Istanbul IMO and he nearly did the same in the FA cup final......i was never THAT convinced about his "genius" tbh, i thought luck played a BIG part in why he managed to stay at the Club without winning a trophy for 4 years.....esp when we are considering sacking one who has won one......

    Theoretically Pep would be my choice over Rafa for the reasons stated earlier, at least we wouldn't be going backwards in time re our style of play.....but if Kenny wins the Fa Cup then i'd say that should secure another season for him as manager, im sure FSG would not want to rock the boat and try to implement someone when the timing wasn't right....

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  81. you can abuse the LFC club players, managers, you can even cheer when one is out injured for the season. Just don't disagree with the big JK or your banned
    see you guys, until i can find another computer

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  82. were we below Everton in 2005?

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  83. Just on question to all that have voted for Pep, do you all believe that he would have won the Champions League in 2005 with the squad Rafa had?
    Remember that although there was some quality in the side he still had to use players such as Traore, Biscan, Baros and Kewell! My feeling is that he would not, Pep inherited a world class side, Rafa built one on peanuts! 

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  84. Houlier squad is not bad at all. Just Benitez bring out the full potential of it.

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  85. Anyone think Roberto Martinez can do a good job for us?

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  86. I just don't get why everyone who comes on here bags Jamie. If you don't like this site then just leave and join the Dalglish apologetics on countless other fan sites.

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  87. bollox to guardiola!! frank rijkaard won the league and european cup at barca... wot has he dun since?? theres obviously sum work involved in bein the barca manager but we ya got the best player in the world, 2 of the best centre mids in the world and a shit load of quality around um it makes the job easier. if kenny dus end up goin id av rafa back in a flash, the only reason he woz shit at the end is because his relationship wiv the owners completely broke down

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  88. Speaking of managers , any one else think Ferguson is making a mistake resting Howard Webb for the Manc " title decider "

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  89. great idea lets give him next year so we can be next birmingham win FA cup and get relagated. facts are kenny has worst record since 1950s. since new year are we 16th. 120Mil givin about 90 mil wasted when comolli left he come out and said it was him and not comolli that wanted the players. We are no longer power house that teams are scared off at anfield. he bought players with the ame money could of bought mata aguero hazard ? its not henderson or carroll faulthe paid stupid price off them. and he come out last week and said thanks to rafa for the youth academy? because legand player doesnt make him good manager

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  90. did you read the post can you read. its about benitez and pepe

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  91. bring in pep definitely..

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  92. Hang on so we the fans by being patient will help our club back to the top, what a load of crap. Here is a lesson for you very good footballers and very smart managers make great teams, not Faith not the LFC way not patients, it is as simple as that.

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  93. So help me with this you mean the Liverpool way attacking , so Barca way, Man u way, Man C way and Arsenal way. Basically nearly every team in the CL play this way, not to mention most of the Sth American teams. So would you say then that Rafa's experience in the CL would be more of an advantage then?

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  94. I dont rate Guardiola the manager Rafa is this season he was unable to get a team of megastars squat i think he is slightly over rated.

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  95. its not the managers fault (8th). the players get paid enough and should perform to the best of their abilities. they get paid enough and the only motivation they need is the pride they should feel playin for liverpool fc. YNWA

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  96. did i mention they get paid enough???? lol

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  97. Dunno why everyone needs Rafa. I could only recall him bringing the worst in players with his rotational policies. To say that the he had no funds were completely bollocks. The truth is, he wanted to manage clubs with deep pockets like Chelsea, Barca, Madrid and maybe city now. He had his chance with Inter, but looks like the management knows something about rafa that his faithfuls don't know about! Good to check that out!

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  98. This makes for good reading to keep perspective in check :

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1318433/Harry-Redknapp-Hicks-Gilletts-crime-giving-Rafa-Benitez-150m-squander-costly-flops.html

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  99. Spurious, not in my opinion but that's YOUR opinion and you are entitled to it. 

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  100. U must wish u wer chelsea chalaging 4 top 4 a fa cup an champions league final

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  101. Pro-red-living-in-the-now7:10 p.m., April 30, 2012

    @Chris I agree. For someone who preaches about it being ok to just voice his opinion he is very quick to pull the trigger and block most with an opposing view, I think JK - liverpoolkop dictator-in-chief is more apt . Why even post an article about Gaurdiola he is taking time out from the game, and lets be honest he wouldn't come to liverpool. And Benitez is gone let him go Jaimie. 

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  102. Pro-red-living-in-the-now7:11 p.m., April 30, 2012

    I wonder how long my post will last, I could count it in seconds

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  103. Pro-red-living-in-the-now12:02 a.m., May 01, 2012

    yip

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  104. Pro-red-living-in-the-now12:06 a.m., May 01, 2012

    calm down champ, "get relegated"?!! come on now 

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  105. Pep inherited most of the "stars" in the Barca team and some of his signings are either questionable or indulgent.

    Proof is in the pudding I suppose and interesting that he departs when the going gets tough.....my belief is he has been caught out.

    Rafa, dear old Rafa.....I'd have him back tomorrow, BUT for one young manager who I've admired and kept tabs on for a couple of years now....Roberto Martinez.

    If only we could bring Maqrtinez in and have Kenny induct him into the bootroom ethos, now that would be a recipe for success in my book.

    Jaimie....interesting poll on 2Martinez for LFC" there lad.....!!!

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  106. Guardiola would have his work cut out at Liverpool,, his freeflowing mentality would mean something of a new look midfield with a bit different looking forwards(dont see Carroll fitting in there).  And since we spent over 100 mills last season with knowing results, it would probably take a manager of Guardiola's stature to have Fenway group even thinking of putting up a similar amount of money to invest in players.  And btw,, my personal believe is that Guardiola is going to take a break from managing at least for one season. 

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  107. Jamie when did you come out the closet son? Congratulations on your new found happiness, don't forget to lube up though matey.

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  108. Yeah when we finished 5th AND WON THE CHAMPIONS LEAGUE that really compares to finishing 8th and winning the carling cup

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  109.  Jamie put your handbag away you fucking fag.

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  110. liverpool have hit the post 31 times. If half of them went in liverpool would be title challengers. kd=legend

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  111. totaly agree i think LFC should give kenny the sack and bring rafa back

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  112. totaly agree he should have given raheem stering a chance. LFC have got loads of talent in the youth team kenny should at least give them a chance

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  113.  Benitez best in world!!!

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