8 Jul 2015

Confirmed: €6m star quits Liverpool. Official statement blasts LFC and reveals why the loan failed

It's official: As expected, Spanish full-back Javier Manquillo has left Liverpool FC after only one season at the club.

In May, Rodgers claimed that €6m-rated Manquillo still had a future at Anfield, and insisted that he'd be given the pre-season opportunity to 'work his way back into the squad'.

Well, that isn't going to happen as Atletico Madrid have today confirmed that the loan deal has been cancelled, and the Spanish giants appear to blame Liverpool for the failure of the deal.

A statement on Atletico's official website notes:

"Atlético decided that he [Manquillo] would go to Liverpool for two seasons to enjoy the necessary minutes to continue growing football-wise. However, he has not had all the minutes he and our club consider necessary for that purpose of growth"

The media claim that Liverpool requested permission to cancel the loan deal, but there's no factual evidence to support that. In fact, Rodgers' comments in May appear to support the opposite conclusion, i.e. that he planned to keep Manquillo for the duration of the loan.

To me, it seems clear: Atletico (and Manquillo) decided to pull the plug. In AM's statement, there's no mention of Liverpool's alleged request to cancel the loan, and the emphatic language therein strongly hints at the Spanish club's dissatisfaction with LFC's treatment of the player.

Atletico's decision is hardly surprising. Rodgers' basically ignored Manquillo for five months of the season, and his decision to grant him just 137 minutes of football (from January to May) is, quite frankly, inexcusable. If a Liverpool player suffered a similar fate whilst on-loan, then Rodgers et al would be similarly unimpressed.

And it's not as if Manquillo is a terrible player; in the first half of the season, statistics show that he performed as effectively as any other Liverpool defender, so Rodgers' decision to constantly ignore him is mystifying.


Manquillo is no world-beater, but I submit that he could've done just as good a job as Emre Can on the right side of Liverpool's defence, especially if - like the German - Rodgers gave him a run of 20+ games in a row.

Can was later found-out at right back, yet despite the obvious warning signs, Rodgers persisted with him, and the club suffered the consequences. Manquillo - who is a dedicated right back, and more defensively solid that Can in that position - should've been given a chance.

This is all ancient history now, though. When all is said and done, it's no great loss, but if given a proper chance, Manquillo - labelled (unfairly IMO) as 'poor' by Jamie Redknapp - may have developed into a solid squad player for Liverpool.

Instead, amongst some fans and the media, Manquillo will probably go down as another transfer flop, but the real blame lies with Brendan Rodgers, who has once again maintained his pitiful 100% failure rate in the loan market.

Author: Jaimie K



188 comments:

  1. Shame it didn't work it but oh well, Clyne is clearly our number 1 and with wisdom being resigned i'm assuming they see more sense in keeping him than holding onto Manquillo.

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  2. No team should loan LFC any players under Rodgers. He alienates them, just like he did with Sahin. Even players he bought he does the same. Like we never see them play at all, then you hear the media start saying they are poor yada yada. And I'm like how the hell x when I have only ever seen them play like 10 mins here or there, then never heard of again.

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  3. plus Markovic, Ibe, Henderson and Sterling if he stays are all RB's. :P

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  4. IMO Manquillo was adequate at best, just another run of the mill full back.
    He played 19 games, so it has been claimed all over the media, that a spell of 20 games would have ignited a clause in the loan deal,
    So he is gone, I certanly wont lose any sleep over it. He was at best average, Good luck to him in the future, but I wont be holding my breath to see him on TV playing in important games for anyone.
    Now we are starting to get rid of the "average" players, I pray long will it continue.

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  5. P.S.,, what happened in May stays in May.

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  6. Make no mistake, Manquillo was/is an extremely talented young defender.
    His 'fault' in my opinion, was that he was not attacking enough for Rodgers... Which is ridiculous.

    Rodgers is clueless when it comes to identifying, selecting and utilizing defensive players.
    You only have to look at how our team struggles to defend, to realize he places little value on players who can actually defend well.

    IMO, Manquillo showed an ability to do both very well and was in fact quite well rounded for such a young player... he deserved more time and patience.
    I'm beginning to question this reputation Rodgers has for developing young players, because quite frankly I'm not seeing it.

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  7. "EXTREMELY TALENTED",,,,,,, enough said.

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  8. Taken in context ...yes.
    A young fulback who needs time and patents to develop.
    If that was not going to be allowed, then why did they request the loan?
    Did Rodgers expect the finished article?

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  9. We requested a loan to vet whether he was good enough or not, and he was not.
    Me I think Alves, Cafu, etc are EXTREMELY TALENTED"

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  10. I'm beginning to question this reputation Rodgers has for developing young players, because quite frankly I'm not seeing it.




    I must admit that im also starting to question BR 's ability ,
    and the way he played Sterling in the second half of the season when he was out of form as well ?

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  11. Oh i see...
    As in Allen, the welsh xavi !!
    How silly of me.
    LOL.

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  12. Reports say that LFC had to pay 1.5m to activate the second year ?

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  13. No i'm not missing the point, this is about Manquillo, not BR.

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  14. Yes every team on the planet is trying to sign Sahin, he is so good, dawwwwwwww

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  15. Wisdom the player, or the mental capacity, ??

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  16. That players who never quite make it at the highest level, like Milner at City, are often called underrated rather than not good enough just like players who get injured frequently are often called unlucky rather than too weak, physically, to handle that same highest level.

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  17. So now I wonder who our 1st team coach will be?

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  18. Rodgers is clueless when it comes to setting up our defence. It really is mind boggling that no defensive coach has been included in the new coaching setup as yet.

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  19. We do not have one with Marsh gone.

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  20. This also demonstrated BR's in depth knowledge of his players.


    Not may managers would have dropped Mig safe in the knowledge that Brad would get injured allowing Mig to return anew man .......but still only an average goalkeeper.

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  21. Yes, no plan there, they are sitting on the wrong chairs, walking into the wrong offices, god only knows where this will end, A multi million Industry has no plan in place, where will it all end.

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  22. You recognise genius when you see it Stu,,,

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  23. You mean Simon Mignolet ?... who's form fell into a black hole after he arrived at Liverpool and started taking instructions from Rodgers?
    LOL.. yeah I guess that's an improvement of sorts.

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  24. BR's treatment of Manquillo was pretty appalling but I have to say I hope his treatment of a truly high class potential right back, Ryan McLaughlin is not so disrespectful and Ryan should come into the squad.

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  25. And what about this topic, MANQUILLO, have you even read it, ?????????

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  26. Wiki says there was an option to buy after one year so perhaps we did not take up the option to buy and AM decided to pull him out because he was unlikely to get game time.

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  27. IF They are interested ot Manquillo's football growth, They can play him on their own. Not impressed by the player, really poor under many aspects: poor defensively, very slow, and not so technically gifted, I think Liverpool should invest time on their own prospects like Flanno and Wisdom.

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  28. Also, he played 19 games, and the rumour is 20 games, would have activated a clause, be it money or a permanent deal, not too sure, but I tend to see it as nearer the truth than the other rubbish being spouted.

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  29. I would be inclyned to agree with you.

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  30. He had his chance and failed - On Sterling LFC must fine him an initial £50 k that doubles every day - by taking the action he has by refusing to join the tour he is effectively asking for a transfer which means he has now agreed to forgo any signing on fee. Come on LF C Legal team ENFORCE IT NOW - Thats what you are paid for

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  31. He just wasn't needed so all parties agreed it would be best for him to return to AM and look for another club. No loss really he was just another average player who will probably make a career of it lower down the table. On another note we should not be loaning players IMO... They never work and a club the size of LFC should never be loaning other clubs substandard players.

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  32. There is still a position up for grabs from what I've heard they want it to be an ex LFC player but I guess they are making sure they find the right one.

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  33. Well would you say Moreno was any better than Manquillo? he maybe better going forward but is defensive plays very suspect would`nt you say.

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  34. Yes I would say he was better than Manq, but thats just my opinion.

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  35. I'm struggling to see why people are so surprised by this. He has hardly played as he struggled to adapt to any system other than 4 at the back. When he was required to push forward he was not as effective. Also as Wisdom has extended his contract which I am pleased about and we have just bought Clynne, I couldn't see how he was going to play.


    I wish him the best as he appeared to always try his best but he is not an upgrade on anything we already have.

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  36. There were some whispers that Harry Kewell could be coming onboard. But most of what i hear is hes going to watford

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  37. I like i like

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  38. You think we are gonna let him off the hook, no chance, FSG play hardball, we have seen it with Suarez, he will leave on our terms.
    Take that as a given.

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  39. Slams? Where did they slam anyone?
    No big loss anyway, it is a shame to lose a competent backup, but he's a kid and we have plenty of those. Unless we were going to buy him at the end, there's no point.

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  40. Must they? Really? You're drawing a lot of conclusions from very little Ray. LFC can't fine a player £50k (and double it every day) for requesting a transfer, especially when they dont even want him on the tour. And no, the legal team are not there to enforce ridiculous fines on players. They have real work to do.

    Jesus wept, you'd think the kid had spat in your mothers face or something. Just let him move on and build a bridge. He's just a kid that wants to move on for a bigger paycheck, so what? I'm in the process of doing the same thing at my work at the moment, the company I'm at brought me up, taught me my trade and I've received a far more lucrative offer from another company that could further my development, both personally and professionally. I kept it very secret for a while during the negotiation process and my fellow employees and clients have congratulated me and wished me all the best. How is his situation so different?

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  41. I hope most of what you hear is correct,
    Sami would be a great coach, having Managed teams, (although with little success) I feel he would add that little spark we need to our defence,

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  42. Sounds like a mutual decision that is agreeable to all parties concerned. All's well that ends well.

    Anyway today the Telegraph says that L'equipe says that a bloke they know says that they overheard someone say that we're back in for Lacazette now the pursuit of Benteke has hit the rocks. This is now my ultimate rose-tinted, pegs-of-all-kinds-of-ill-fitting-shaped pipe dream.

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  43. What you suggest sounds entirely reasonable perhaps even generous, But to be on the safe side\I think we would need to run that past Bob first - our legal advisor.

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  44. Mercenary, :)

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  45. It's as good as done. I am expecting any time now a picture in the press of what he might look like in a Liverpool shirt leaning against something

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  46. Leaning against the Eiffel Tower for example, near PSG's ground.

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  47. I heard the one about Kewell, decent shout and he does love the club. Personally I would prefer someone more defensive minded, stand up Carra or Sami. Question is does BR have the balls for it... I'm not so sure.

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  48. As an australian myself i would like to say congratulations watford on getting kewell we'll take samii thanks

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  49. I certainly hope so. It will be something like Lacazette's head on Skrtel's body.

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  50. Personally id institute a fine if he didnt come on tour regardless if we want him there or not unless he puts in a transfer request. As far as i understand if a player hands in a transfer request they forfeit their share of the fee.
    If a player refuses to train or goes to the media whether it is them or their agent asking for a trade id put them in the position that they had to request a transfer and put some extra skin in the game.

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  51. Hell yeah. And ill do it again. I understand that we are talking about different levels of income (VERY different) but the principle remains

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  52. Terms like this would already be in his contract, he would not be paid, plus fines, etc,

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  53. Has Bob been around of late?

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  54. No boo hoo for Manquillo. Best of luck to him, but I feel Spaniards are still living off the reflected success of their national team. It's a failure of Rodgers who yet again thought an entirely untested but still overrated Spaniard who at the time played less than six first team games for Atletico, was good enough for the squad - after failures of Aspas, Alberto, and Moreno hasn't been that impressive. It could also be a Rodgers bias since he's fluent in Spanish. I just think the time has come and gone, and if Manquillo was let's say, Australian, with the same skill set, I doubt he'd be a professional footballer.

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  55. The new/promoted guy looks like Sami Hyypia. Can't complain!

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  56. All true, but presumably you didn't refuse to go to work in the meantime......;-)


    Honestly the situation is pretty predictable but I think it's the best thing for everyone and for maintaining the general good humour if he doesn't go on the tour. This way, Raheem doesn't have to pretend that he wants to be there and BR doesn't have to pretend that he likes him and feel compelled to play a guy who almost certainly isn't going to be there when the season starts.


    RS isn't the first player to accelerate a move by refusing to play and he certainly won't be the last. Doesn't make it any less unsavoury, but its sort of become the standard strategy that many players and their agents employ to force their way out of a club.

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  57. Why create bad blood for the sake of it though? It's not putting us in any worse a position, if anything it's saving on a flight and hotel room, and making sure he doesnt get game time in place of someone who could use the time gelling with the team like Firmino, Milner or Ibe, or maybe someone like Ojo or Wilson.
    Issuing fines and such just takes up time, and can increase tension between the club and the player. Dont forget, it's us that lose if this sale doesnt go through. Fair enough Raheem may get a big bonus and whatever if it does go through, but he could just refuse all contract talk with City, sit at the club collecting a paycheck and leave for nothing at the end of it, robbing us of £50m. When it happened with Johnson, it didnt matter so much because we werent going to get much for him anyway, but with Raheem we stand to lose alot. IMO the club should do everything to ensure that the transfer goes through smoothly and have a nice clean break from the kid.
    I just dont get why everyone seems so personally offended...

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  58. Or Ian Ayre could just write him a bad reference.

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  59. Manquillo is not a good player, and its Rodgers fault, we took him on trial, it didnt work out, but its Rodgers fault, luv it, brilliant exposé.

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  60. We've got one of those, Brad Smith :) The great hope for all of us down under.
    Ugh, I hate that term, down under, so tacky. I might as well have said "we's got us wunna them, Brazza Smitty. He's f***n sick aye, good ozzie bloke, killa footy playa. Bonza bonza shrimp on the barbie, Paul Hogan, flip flops, beer"
    But I digress, Brad Smith actually looks like a decent young player, hopefully we can get an Aussie into the first team and forget all about Harry Kewell and Brad Jones :)
    On a side note, I just found out that my nana is good friends with BJ's nana. Cute.

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  61. I'd love for Sami to be our defensive coach, maybe him and Carra as a 'good cop, scouse cop' type setup. Or they could both come back and play?

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  62. Haha Paul Hogan. your avatar must have subliminally entered my mind for my other comment. Nice work JK.

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  63. Might I also remind you, you are fluent in English, unlike the the real Australian Natives.

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  64. Looking at the past few posts reminded me how remarkably bad LFC were at the transfer market last summer. Manquillo, Moreno, Balo, Markovic, Lovren, Lallana have all failed to make any impact of any magnitude. Emre Can is reasonably good only if properly utilised, Lambert fulfilled his role as a backup and Origi on loan. We can almost shift Lambert and Origi into the 'failed' category. Lambert has and will certainly not make an impact at Anfield. Origi has recently been named the worst XI of Ligue 1 of the season so I don't think anyone with a right frame of mind will expect him to be a knight in shining armour for LFC in the coming season. It's truly unbelievable!!! That's an outlay of almost 120 mil pounds in transfer fee alone. If we are bankrolled by some Russians or Arabs then I'll say it's peanuts but It's certainly not the case for us now. The even more ridiculous thing was that only Colin Pascoe and Mike Marsh were needed to answer for last season's failure. The manager, chief negotiator, majestic transfer committee and the ever-present scouts are all safe as anything.

    Here comes this summer's transfer window and we have already signed 6 players. But, we are still officially in a 'rebuilding' phase, forever it may seem though. It seems like we need to get a LB, DM, RW, and most critically, a striker, maybe even 2 strikers we are talking about, for the team to be ready for a top-4 challenge for the coming season. Now, together with last season's arrivals, we have to integrate almost 10 players for the first team, more if we are really getting players for the above-mentioned positions. Also, not forgetting our favourite manager's uncannily love for utility players so new arrivals are expected to excel in couple of positions (Firmino as LB, anyone?). This certainly will not make the uphill task of integrating huge number of new players any easier.
    Given the common consensus among fans of LFC that 'new players need time to bed in', are we expecting another 6th placed finish for the coming season with us closer to 8th than 4th just like last season? Let's hope BR and his cohort can get it right this season by at least mounting a respectable challenge for the top four else I'll be the first one to pump my fist in the air for his/their sack/sacks.

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  65. True, I'm still here plugging away, but if the company were to go to a conference or some such, I wouldn't go. Different situations once again so no point me comparing, I'm just excited about my new job.
    With Raheem, I get why he doesnt want to go, and I can only guess that his point of view would be "why would I travel halfway across the world with a team that doesnt want me, to be abused whenever a Liverpool fan sees me (trust me, there's a shedload over here, last year in Melbourne was amazing), and train with a team that I wont be playing in, when I could just stay here, focus on getting the deal done and get into training with my new team asap".
    Removing all emotional bias and vitriol from the equation, it seems really simple. I've really got no problem if the standard procedure is to fine the player, but I took issue with the $50k doubling daily comment, which just sounds like a "Fine him a bajillion gazillion dollars for breaking all our hearts and being an awful human being". Personally I cant wait till he goes, I think it's the best thing for the club and the player, but I feel no animosity towards him. I was the same with Suarez although I wish he was still here, and the same with Torres, although some of his comments were very untoward...

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  66. Definitely the player :)

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  67. Bazinga...

    Wait, the Clyne reference was intended, yeah?

    If so... Bazinga...

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  68. I dont take it personally, thats football. i would just like to see the 10% of 50m in LFC account instead of sterlings. If a player wants a move they should have to put in a transfer request, not get their agent to cause bad situations to try force a sale. If he decides to stay and wait out his contract then oh well thats a risk im willing to take but i dont think it will come to it.

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  69. Well I heard he is definitely signing, I heard it from a guy who lives in France. Well, he lived in France once. Or he's been on a Contiki that went through France, or flew over it once. Scratch that, he just loves french onion soup and wore a horizontally striped shirt once. Still... Pretty reliable?

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  70. I thought I read somewhere that the £8m signing fee was just the agents fee that he will split with Sterling. Would it still be subject to the 'transfer request = no signing fee' rule?

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  71. His situation differs in how him and agent tastelesssly went about their business there was no need for it.
    You kept quiet about your business which was wise Raheem and his manager should have done the same.

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  72. Im honestly not sure, i know the agents generally get 10% of the total contract (Fee+wage). and i recently saw that sterlings deal with his agent is a weird one when the agent is giving him 4% of his 10%.
    I think an agent gets his fee regardless but the player also takes a slice but i may be wrong.
    Honestly i think we'll sell sterling soon anyway so it wont be a problem

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  73. Never met one that doesn't speak English.

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  74. I have, many times when I worked for WHO there.

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  75. Pete thats rather harsh i think fair enough he was not what we needed in the latter parts of the season but i would say he was still still capable.
    As for Moreno he will improve i know you dont like the Spaniards much but id prefer them to Italians generally.

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  76. It was a two year loan with an option to buy with a set fee. Manquillo isn't that great, and was a relative nobody before joining the club. But who pursued him? And why?

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  77. Pete, we took a punt on him, maybe he would be great, or maybe a failure, as it turned out it was the latter,Nothing gained nothing lost, that seems to me OK.

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  78. Oh my God, I never noticed that.

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  79. I'm also fluent in a language which is over 30 centuries old and forms the foundations of your primary language. But what's the point of this?


    There's a fair link to greater provisions/accessibility due to perceived reputation IMO. Manquillo isn't that great, different circumstances and he has no chance. Maybe Australia isn't the best example.

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  80. This is great news. Kewell is the perfect man to keep Sturridge and Lucas fit!

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  81. Aquilani's, Dossena's, your favourite types of players! And those exclusive rent only never buy transfer deals :)

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  82. hope your right mate

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  83. You are missing the point - he has not requested a transfer because if he does so he effectively relinquishes his £4 million signing on fee at City

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  84. Me too, in fact I speak at least 6 languages, and can get by on a few more, what does that prove, ?
    but to suggest that BR is in your words, Biased towards Spanish speakers is outrageous.

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  85. Your all missing the point on Sterling - if he asks for a transfer he gives up his right to a signing on fee of say four million pounds - We are the Employer - he has a contract = HONOUR IT OR BE FINED

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  86. With the Ashes about to begin the Aussies have decided to show why investing in English talent in any sport can be disasterous, onwards and upwards lads.

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  87. If LFC accept a bid however then Sterling would be entitled to a signing on fee but only if he has not asked for a transfer.So put up or shut up Raheem

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  88. Good on you, I think that's really interesting. No sarcasm. Not sure what it proves but you mentioned to native language thing.


    It's not outright, but certainly a possibility. Rodgers has shown a tendency to pick players he has worked with before, so it's not entirely out of the question to suggest a potential bias for Spaniards or things he is accustomed to. He speaks the language, has a (perceived) affinity for Spanish football and discrete Spanish techniques (coaching, play style) and has publicly admitted to wanting to manage a Spanish club.

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  89. CITY FANS - Sterling is using you to agree a fee and then he will switch alligance to Chelsea or Arsenal WHERE HE REALLY WANTS TO GO - You are being used

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  90. Steady RAY, steady.


    What I find amusing is that $terling's career is in the hands of LFC. Is he really worth 30m+. Is it worth to cash in? He's contracted for two years, so he could be dumped in the reserves and then not selected. Train with the kiddies and then not even play at all for two years. Who'd want him after that?

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  91. Donno where this £4m is coming from, now agents are only entitled to 3% of any fee, if its £50m then its only £1.5m ,,,, so where does Sterlings £4m payout come from,.
    I hope you do some research and prove me wrong, but I heard on radio5 a few weeks ago, an agent can only claim 3% of any fee.

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  92. Having read the fairly matter of fact statement I can derive little to no evidence of any 'blasting' being done. Suggest you confirm the definition for future reference. Hugs.

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  93. By requesting a transfer a player gives up his "loyalty bonus", a pre agreed amount or % of transfer in his existing contract.

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  94. Have a look at our new youngster, Bobby Adekanye, he is better than Sterling was at his age, remember he is only 16, but the video you will watch he is only 15, no wonder Barca signed him at 12

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  95. no he relinquishes his loyalty fee, an amount in his existing contract that Liverpool will pay him if he gets sold. This is common in contacts which is why written transfer requests are rarely issued. I doubt it would be as much as 4 mil though as he is still on his original £35,000 a week contract.

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  96. OK Pete, I wont argue with you on that point, you have my permission to take a sweet outa the jar,
    Me I dont care were we go as long as we get 100% from each player, as we seen with Suarez.
    Its about work, even if you have the skill, without the work ethic its meaningless.

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  97. i bow to your superior knowlege then Johnny but I got it from the papers - should have known better ha ha BUT the principle remains and Sterling lacks class off the field of play

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  98. Low expectations often suprise on the upside - take England ladies soccer team - WOW

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  99. Your a nice guy with a real mean streak mate - good on ya

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  100. Harry Wilson is no Dummy either

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  101. He's under contract you idiot and club have every right to fine him, what ever they want if he refuses to go on tour. This is liverpool we are talking about and they won't let a 20'year old kid tell them what to do. To be honest i can't wait till we get shot of the little rat that he is.

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  102. Barcelona signed Arda Turan.


    Panic buy after missing out on Danny Ings.

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  103. Definitely sell him. But only for the right price which is near £50 million. Is he worth that? No, probably not. But with no other real incentive to sell other than 'he wants out' why not demand more.

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  104. Hindsight is a wonderful thing. Lovren, Lallana were just coming off the back of a great season where they performed really well.
    Balotelli, whilst an odd choice did still used to score goals in the PL.
    Markovic, Moreno and Manquillo were all a little risky but they had potential.
    Markovic hasn't lived up to it yet. But still could.
    Moreno I think was decent, but still a raw player who has plenty of time to come good.
    Manquillo was just a loan, so no big loss.

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  105. How can you regulate what an agent gets plenty of ways legally for them to get more.

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  106. I agree. He's improved a lot, and still can. My point is either one of them should be in the starting line-up not both. Milner and Henderson Imo have to compete with each other for the same spot,meaning constantly pushing each other and improving themselves and the team.

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  107. Mingo did not improved anything, he got to a good run in the mid season (when Lucas was in the team) then went on to show what he's made of. (against Arsenalaaway and so others )

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  108. Haven't commented too much recently just being picky :)


    I'm off now

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  109. Good thing Atletico dont decide who plays for us and who doesnt. I think it was the Clyne deal that sealed it

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  110. Sky Sports reports that Sterling doesn't want to play for BR. Money and the club itself is not the issue. Interesting.

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  111. 15 million for him, 16 million for Asier, 20 million for Kovacic, 20 million for Lacazette. On top of the almost 50 millon already spent. Where on earth would the money come from?

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  112. Selling the Anfield?;)

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  113. Really... wow that is an about turn was there not a report that he wanted assurances over BR future before comitting to a new deal?

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  114. I love the sound of that final sentance.... Lots of options next season, just rolls off the tongue doesn't it.

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  115. I remember reading that too. Wtf?

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  116. 34 minutes ago
    Raheem Sterling failed to attend training this morning after phoning in sick. Liverpool are refusing to comment on his absence.

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  117. 1 example, Hendo has placed the ball on a dime from 30 or 40 yrds away on numerous occassions.... The difference between Hendo and the others you name, the knowledge that their teammates are smart enough to envision those passes...

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  118. This whole saga just needs to end as soon as possible.

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  119. I think Sterling's agent is on his phone to City every minute of the day begging them to seal the deal.


    It would not be good for LFC or Sterling to if he had to stay. The whole situation is a clear example of the poor PR at LFC and allowing a young player to be calling the shots. Take the money and run.

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  120. 'firmino as a LB'


    how i enjoyed that

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  121. little prick

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  122. Every big ego player calls the shots, it's just modern times. Nothing wrong with as I mentioned above, blatantly sabotaging his career, but it won't happen. It's 30m or a bit of pride.


    Will be interesting to see what the money is spent on. Firmino you'd think is already the Sterling replacement. Maybe a big bucks striker. Really need to axe a few more of the squad though.

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  123. Yeah, although I thinkI think that had it been a younger fitter Gerrard, it may have worked... We'll see this season I suppose.... Fingers crossed mate! Fingers crossed.

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  124. Get him to report to the club doctor tomorrow & if he refuses to go on tour, just stop paying him.

    If i was FSG, this would just strengthen my resolve £50m or no deal.
    To back down now gives every kid a blueprint on how to force a transfer

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  125. I said the other day Firmino was Sterling's replacement.


    Looks like the only striker we are after at this point is Benteke. At the price we need to pay, how can there be no other options?

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  126. 'Puts the stoppers on any further central midfield signings'. You know nothing, Jaimie. Nothing. Liverpool were pushing for Kovacic after they signed Milner, and the deal is still a 'maybe'.

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  127. Can will play holding.

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  128. This is the euro year. Let him sit on the bench and be a sub. When he doesn't get a call to play for England, watch how quickly his attitude changes.

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  129. Sky Sources report that Sterling's desire to leave Anfield stems from no desire to play for Rodgers. It's what Logan and I have been hearing all along. Little to do with money. If 100% true, it makes JK look like an idiot.

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  130. It never had anything to do with money, most people (especially JK) were just jumping to unfounded conclusions.

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  131. Why are you so sure?

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  132. For a long time we've been interested in Pedro.

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  133. Sterling refusing to practice, to do pre-season.
    that's fine, just fine him and force him to travel. But exile him like Saurez then just let cut him from the squad for the first couple of games. Maybe give him some bench time up tell internationals and when he doesn't get the call I bet you see a shift in attitude.

    It is the year of Euro, put it into perspective to the kid it's the club that controls his destiny, not his agent.

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  134. If Liverpool were in the top 4 and making a title challenge, do you think he'd reject our new offer?


    Whether it's flawed or not, that's how he's interpreting his career path right now. He doesn't believe Rodgers is good for his development, again, whether you agree with him or not.


    I read sources that are a lot more reliable than mainstream media.

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  135. I don't think he has the track record that allows him to even think that way. If people like SG, and Suarez among others played under BR (not sure if they liked it), then so should he.

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  136. Classic exit strategy stuff from young mercenary Raheem the Ripper.


    Best scenario now for *everyone* is that a big money deal gets wrapped up ASAP. As much as I enjoy the sentiment that the club could put their foot down and relegate the unscrupulous young sellsword to the bench for a season to teach him a lesson in manners, I'm sure none of us want this very public saga impacting the clubs pre-season preparations.


    He's a talented boy, the troublesome scamp, but he downed tools more than 6 months ago. Let's get shot, pocket the cash to use on a big name striker and then we can all talk about something else.

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  137. Manquillo couldn't run and couldn't cross. He's not good enough for the premier league, unfortunately. Can see why he was given a go, but it's also clear that it had to come to an end.

    Giving Emre Can first team experience will have obvious long-term benefits for the club and certainly seemed like a wise decision when LFC went on a record-breaking unbeaten run in the league with him in the team last season.

    I don't see why Atletico's statement should be regarded as more credible than LFCs.

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  138. I sometimes think that last season turned into a backhanded way for Rodgers to prove his point on transfers targets he wanted and felt he needed.... Question remains, did it work.

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  139. possibility...

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  140. Don't go, Pete!

    Pete!

    Noooo...!!!!!!

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  141. So what is it development/trophies?


    Why is'nt he begging for a move to Crewe or Southampton if he so worried about his development, as you stated "it never had anything with money"


    City & Chelsea are a graveyard for promising players.


    He must getting real nervous that he's down to his last 15 years to win trophies, so lets go city/chelsea where he know he wont play as much but will win trophies.

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  142. No, unfortunately

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  143. Heung-Min Son, Volland, Kiessling, Gameiro, Negredo, Higuain, Lacazette, Jackson Martinez, Gio Dos Santos, Jovetic, Aubameyang, Max Kruse, Hernandez, Dzeko, Van Persie (jokes). Or mortgages on Lewandowski or Thomas Müller. Nope. Nobody of comparable quality and cost.

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  144. At least four syllables, you say? Or INGS in upper case?

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  145. Interesting reports this morning from Sky that Sterling's desire to leave is due to not wanting to play under Rodgers, rather than wanting more money.

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  146. I think we should go all out for the 7 syllables of Alexander Lacazette.

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  147. Sterling's mobile got leaked on twitter this morning & someone's rang him & sent him a txt parody of Eminem's Stan.


    Pure comedy gold

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  148. Like Sterling is ever going to admit that it's about money.

    The same media claimed in January that Sterling wanted reassurances about Rodgers' future before signing a new deal. At the time, an alleged club source stated:

    "Raheem and Brendan are very close and there was a worry about the future of the manager, but Liverpool have given assurances and they insist that recent reports that they were considering his position are far from the truth and they are committed to him - which is what Raheem wanted to hear."

    Now, 'reports' claim that Sterling doesn't want to play for Rodgers? Give me a break. It's just sh*t-stirring by the press, with no evidence at all to back it up.

    Additionally, in his recent interview with the BBC, Sterling said:

    "I speak to Brendan on good terms. He calls me in when he needs to talk to me and I feel like I can speak to him whenever I want. He's been really good to me since I've come into the team".

    In my view, it's nonsense, but fans who want to believe it's not about money will latch onto the latest media report and parade it as gospel.

    I'm sure there's an element of Sterling wanting to leave to 'win trophies', but money is (IMO) a huge part of it too.

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  149. I'll follow that to the letter.

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  150. The old adage: "When a player says it's not about the money, odds are it's about the money"

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  151. I think his agent is at the heart of the problem.

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  152. I'm not suggesting that I believe the reports, I merely stated that they were interesting.

    Similarly though, there is no evidence that Sterling's desire to leave is largely down to wanting more money, so everything said on the matter is simply conjecture at the moment.

    However to challenge your first line, no player playing for a club is going to admit that they don't like the manager publicly, nor will club sources state the same. What is interesting is Agger and Sahin who, after leaving the club stated their dislike for Rodgers. It has also been suggested that Lucas has an issue with Rodgers as well.

    I'm simply trying to consider all possibilities, I don't have any opinion on what is the overwhelming factor in his desire to leave.

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  153. Rightly or wrongly I just think Manquillo doesn't offer enough going forward for Rodgers. Shame cos he seemed a decent lad. Oh well, all the best Javier YNWA

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  154. Make him play with this own age group ,the U21 team.

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  155. I like you Johnny, you talk a bit of sense. A commodity that seems to be getting rarer and rarer

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  156. Maybe he'll sign a blank piece of paper instead of a contract too, like Studge... That way he can just hop off to another club with no fuss when a better offer comes in ;)

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  157. In my experience, the only person named 'Johnny' who's ever spoken sense is Johnny-Five.

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  158. thexcuriousxwanderer3:06 pm, July 08, 2015

    "but I submit that he could've done just as good a job as Emre Can on the right side of Liverpool's defence"

    Well in that case I would still play Can. Better to give someone we own, whom we know has loads of potential, minutes, than a loanee right? So I'm with BR if this is the case. Unless you say Manquillo can perform way better, then I guess it makes sense to continute playing him.

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  159. I posted the other day that Manquillo's loan was ended. Nothing new here.

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  160. I got the impression from Agger that he was frustrated from not playing, as opposed to having some sort of personal issue with Rodgers.


    Sahin, on the other hand, has sounded like a whiny child because Rodgers wouldn't play him in his preferred position. I've seen him bring it up at least two times (possibly three). Been a while since we've heard about it though; who knows if he's let it go.

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  161. Sterling may not be earning as much but it's the same principle

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  162. Even if he hates Rodgers, their called professional for a reason, personal sentiments should not come into it.

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  163. Nothin better than H.P wreck it and send it back.

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  164. I take everything Rodgers says with a pinch of salt.
    HE stated we weren't buying Balotelli last summer and he also said that any team who spends £100M should expect to be challenging for the title.
    Rearrange these words - head, he's, dick, a.

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  165. That joke will go right over the head of the younger fan base however Johnny five is alive!

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  166. Search "Football Agent Regulations" - the FA regs are publically available. Nowhere does it stipulate what an agent can/can't earn from a transfer or from their clients.

    Agents generally get 10% of the transfer fee from the club and 10% of the contract from their client.

    10% of the transfer is £5m. Most are assuming Sterling will get a 5yr contract at £120k/wk = £30m total, of which 10% is £3m. It seems Ward is prepared to hand over half of the that total to Sterling, hence the £4m.

    This is no doubt the root of the problem, Ward has broken away from a much larger agency to set up his own and he's desperate for his big pay day. His interest appears to be so vested in getting that pay day he's incentivised Sterling to make the move at any cost.

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  167. I'm not sure if I'm allowed to post links, but there is an article on Sky Sports (also in the Telegraph and other papers) from September 2014, where Agger states that he left Liverpool directly due to Rodgers:

    "Let me put it this way, me and the manager were perhaps not on the same page last season. For most of the season at least,"

    "He and I maybe went wrong with each other because I am very direct. I say things as they are, so I expect people will be the same to me. Maybe it's wrong to expect this sometimes.''

    "There was much (distance) between us, and for me it was just enough. I felt he didn't appreciate the things I could do and contributed. When I feel that, then it's time to move on.”

    ''“When you are a part of the starting 11 for several games in a row and the team have performed well, and you feel that you have played well, then you are left out of the team and don’t feel appreciated, it starts to prey on your mind and you wonder,"

    “Then at the same time you see the statistics from your game - which are so important all around the world of football - and you don’t understand why you weren’t used more often.”

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  168. Why would Citeh not give him a signing on fee because he had requested a transfer from LFC? One doesn't seem to have any impact on the other?

    More likely there are bonus(es) or penalty clauses in his contract that need to be paid if LFC choose to move him on (as opposed to his requesting a transfer).

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  169. ^^ This ,makes sense. Responded above to a similar comment about signing on fee before seeing this.

    The £4m is from 10% of transfer fee from Citeh and 10% of the anticipated total contract value from Raheem.

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  170. Rodgers killed the young mans game and athletico won't be happy...because the replacement...Glen Johnson a total flop (was allowed to play more games than the young and athletic lad)... Also its dishertening to see that Rodgers systematically has reduced the standards at Liverpool ...and some fans are busy believing in the undeniable fact that he'll come through...

    I will still repeat that it was the suarez factor, that gave us a good standing then...with his departure the gaping hole was shown and the coach saddled with bringing in a quality replacement let us down...

    He should just go...

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  171. Flanagan...is a warrior and truly represents the future Liverpool, that is if Rodgers doesn't add sentiments and plays mostly all the clowns he bought over deserving players from the academy..

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  172. I Agree wholly with you but there is a set limit on what players can be fined and for what reasons. The PFA step in very quickly to act on behalf of their clients on these matters.

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  173. Manquillo can be a good defender but we need people who have that attacking sense to start a counter attack. Only then can we use the pace and skills of firmino, coutinho, ibe etc..good luck manquillo!

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  174. I think many fans shared the same sentiment about why Agger would be dropped.


    On the other hand, I think the club did right by him, letting him go back to Brondby for a very cheap fee.

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  175. Another failure but it's not the player....it's the grease ball of a manager that we have. For the life of me I will never understand how this poor excuse of a manager and man is still around...absolutely zero respect for Rodgers the Imposter.

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  176. Is that not 8 syllables? A LEX AN DER LA CA ZE TTE
    Not that I'm being pedantic, I'm just pedantic.

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  177. who? Uncle Bob? loved him!!!

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  178. Alvaro Maestre Guadix11:49 pm, July 08, 2015

    Fracaso total, vete por donde viniste

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  179. If it was meant for Sterling, I'd agree.

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  180. Everytime I show you up,,, you delete my posts, does this help your ego, or why delete, ??

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  181. Not generally, I heard from Radio 5, agents only receive 3%, if they are wrong ok, but nobody phoned in to correct it. ?

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  182. SameOldHyperbole9:19 am, July 09, 2015

    "blasts"

    Daily Mail much?

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  183. Latin doctor well i aint even fluent in English hahaha.

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  184. Because Bodgers don't see defenders as defenders. He wants each player to attack - or else he knows better.
    The same reason our defense has been shambolic under BR because he overlooks defensive fundamentals.


    PS: Reason why no fingers have been pointed at Moreno because he could barge forward at the cost of defending the box
    (fact: he was poor defensively)

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  185. He desperately worked on basics because he knew his poor form would have him shipped in Summer.
    That was an act of desperation because he knew he was utterly miserable and his position was at threat.


    I won't call that an improvement.


    Again, I still don't think if he is an effective goalkeeper. Apart from his stops , his goalkeeping is at most average. He unsettles the defense and lacks leadership.


    Bodgers lacks defensive aptitude. So your assumption is incorrect - he can't help defenders

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